/flt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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I switched to Linux but I still use a @outlook email address, anyone knows any good email provider who takes privacy seriously?

I've found this one, they seem legit: https://www.hushmail.com/

>>55860336
When people say "OMG I looked at BSD's code and I looked back at Linux, I never want to go back to Linux, it's so professionally written." what do they mean? Like what is different really?

What do you think are the distros with the most support when it comes to packages, documentation, etc?

We full shitposting now aren't we.

>>55860389
cock.li

but seriously though, a security researcher looked into whether using a secure email provider matters, and he found that:

even if you use a email provider like hushmail, over 80% of your mail will be on google's servers. gmail is so ubiquitous among people and corporations that you CANNOT escape the gmail system.

unless you only email your friends who also use non-gmail email providers, it's a pointless endeavor to not use gmail. they have most of your emails, whether you like it or not

>>55860425
Fedora is backed by RedHat and they have a pretty good support.

Ubuntu is backed by Canonical and it has a great support too.

Arch is developed to remove autists from the society and cause if that they have a great support too. You wouldn't want them on the street, don't you?

>>55860425
I think that the documentation and support for packages are provided by whoever is actually developing the package that is compiled.

On packaging side, Arch is not bad at all. Forget about the memes you've heard so far, it does not break as often as people say and their packagers are actually responsive and solve problems if reported. And there is Arch Wiki.

>>55860389
Protonmail is relatively secure. I prefer it because it doesn't give you some shady ass @hushmail or @ghostmail address. They just make it sound like your trying to hide something with those names. @protonmail sounds professional enough to use in any situation.

It's just Linux

Stop shilling your communist organization. Their place in modern Linux is of minimal importance. If you wrote the names of the major groups in order of importance to a functional OS, it would be Linux/Freedesktop/Redhat/Everyone else/GNU.

inb4 you can't call it an OS if it doesn't have some UNIX garbage that's not even UNIXy

Few questions from a new user, if anyone can help :

- Can you use th search function in KDE/Ubuntu to search through every files of every hard drive I have? It only search for apps apparently.
If not, is there an app I could use for bigger searches?

- Is it possible to make the Windows/Super key activate the KDE menu?

- Is there a way to switch a window to a second screen on Ubuntu, using a shortcut?
I used Actul multiple monitors on Windows but it seems there's no equivalent?

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>>55860634
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

>>55860669
>as defined by POSIX

GNU with Linux isn't POSIX compliant. It's barely POSIX compatible.

>no link to previous thread
Fuck you OP

>>55860336
Previously on /flt/:
>> >>55843932 →

>tried to install gentoo
>reboot
>nothing happens

epin

>>55860825
holy FUCK im pissed. I spent hours meticulously following that "handbook"

piece of shit handbook is awful

I'm trying Funtoo now.

I wanted to give KDE a try so I installed it, after using it for a few days I decided to go back to GNOME.

Now I have Klipper autostarting itself, and a bunch of UI stuff seems to have KDE-ified itself. How do I fix this?

>>55860904
I had kind of similar problems, did you tried just going to Synaptic, search kde and uninstall everything that's installed?

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>>55860825
>He fell for the gentoo meme

Is ssh within an ssh within an ssh within an ssh ad infinitum secure?

>>55860698
Do you even have any idea who defined POSIX?

When will GNU stop using retarded --extra -----long -------options?

>>55860336
>/flt/
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>55861092
Long options are useful retard.

>>55861097
Only if you never use the command line. Some of us value our time.

>>55861092
Try to remember in 5 years what cmd -aAcdeE meant.

>>55861117
For complex shell scripts, it can be useful, see >>55861118

>>55861118
>he doesn't use the command line interactively
GNUtard

>>55861092
>>55861131
>only GNU provides long options

>>55861141
None of the other Unices I've used do.

>>55861154
man curl

I cloned a perl script from github

I compiled it using perl ./stuff.pl

How do I make this script run automatically run at init when I start my machine?

>>55861165

No manual entry for curl

>>55861170
Write a systemd unit file, assuming your system uses it.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Writing_unit_files

>>55861220
I don't have systemd, I have openRC

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My fonts randomly started looking all shit recently and I can not for the life of me figure out what happened.

Pic related: not the weird mis-sizing in the numbers, and the shitty looking bolding, etc. Some things have also started having real fucking shit kerning.

>>55860452
>they are popular right now so don't even try
please don't do this

>>55861257
how about you include that tiny bit of information in your post so that people can actually help you?

How should I configure my fstab to optimize my SSD?

# <file system>     <mount point>   <type>  <options>                <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=<insert here>       /                             ext4      errors=remount-ro 0               1 

>>55861480
browser? FF has dedicated settings, dunno about chrome.

Is it possible to remove Qt4 Assistant, Qt4 Designer, etc. on Arch when you have applications installed that depend on qt4?

I'm not really sure why these would ship with the qt4 dep honestly.

>>55861890
>not sure why creation tools ship with usage tools
You're why geocities and personal websites stopped existing. You're why only big companies have websites now.

Why do people have an issue with gnome3 exactly?

>>55862174
because they are not used to it and because it was not as good when it launched

>>55862208
Fair enough. Certainly much slicker than xfce on the surface.

So which one is the recommended pkg manager to use in debian? And why the hell do they have so many: apt, apt-get, aptitude, wajig, synaptics
https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html

>>55862443
aptitude and apt-get are the only serious options. i prefer aptitude personally.

Hello /fglt/
How can I convert filename into ID3 tags?
File format looks like this: [Genre] Artist - Songname-youtubedlgarbage.mkv.flac

>>55862496
puddletag helps

>>55862506
Something like that but where is mass editing

>>55862538
found it
im blind af lol

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Hey guys I'm new to Linux. Coming off of windows and I just finished installing Arch a bit ago.

What should I do about a firewall or anti virus?
The Arch wiki's page on firewalls is pretty confusing. Should I even bother with these things?

>>55862636
Dont bother with antiviruses
Firewall is recommended

Installation and basic configuration:

sudo pacman -S ufw
sudo ufw enable
sudo ufw default deny
sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24

How can I increase the size of my home directory? I have about 100gb unallocated and 150gb free in my windows partition.

Somehow windows is taking up about 100gb as well even though I pretty much deleted/uninstalled everything on there.

>>55862699
Oh okay that's pretty simple. Thanks anon.

>>55862704
gparted

>>55862636 Here.
>>55862699
Probably a dumb question but in the wiki it says to
>Then enable the ufw service with systemctl.
Would I do that with
>sudo systemctl enable ufw
or
>sudo systemctl enable ufw.service

>>55862855
ufw.service

My ctrl+f keyboard shortcut function appears to have disappeared system-wide.

Any ideas on how to return it?

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>>55862865
My man.

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>>55862636

Can somebody post that infographic all about mount points?

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Can KDE 2.0 work on modern builds of distro's?

favourite non-GNU Linux?

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>>55864839

>>55864839
none for desktop use
non-linux:
plan9, minix3 (with gnu because fuck you) and openBSD

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how to git gud at bash scripting?

>>55864937
Use ksh or dash or ash instead, with a sprinkling of csh to round out your knowledge.

What's good VPN server software for a node?

About to make the switch to Linux. Thinking about a minimal distro like Debian or Arch.

Was wondering, though. I've read on /g/ that I can run a lot older hardware on Linux and it will remain snappy. All I do is shitpost and program. Nothing really that intensive.

I was wondering if I should update to an old i5 thinkpad or hold onto my old core2duo memebook and upgrade the ram and SSD. On OSX my machine is fucking sluggish and at times nearly unusable during 30 second long hiccups. Should I upgrade or will upgrading/clearning up my laptop with linux be all that I really need?

Thanks.

>>55864962
i seriously hope you are trolling.
>>55864937
http://fglt.nl/resources.html

>>55865013
SSD will probably improve it a lot but getting GNU/Linux and some WM will also work wonders.

Can anyone explain, or link to a website that explains how to connect to a remote server from linux (ubuntu)?

>>55865062
Okay thanks anon.

>>55860336
What's the correct partitioning scheme for dual booting windows and Linux?
I need windows for work.

>>55865125

ssh $username@$server

it's literally that easy

>>55864839
>favourite
Like there were more than one.

>>55864848
>busybox
enjoy your broken system
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/BusyBox

>>55860942
Gentoo is not a meme. "Install Gentoo" is a meme.

Gentoo is a great hands-on distro when you want/need to customize and optimize your system, but it's not for beginners.

>>55865046
I'm not: bash is for retards.

>>55865240
This website is 18+.

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>>55865240
simply eric :^)

>>55865284
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>55865193
>trusting the Arch wiki

Would summer please leave this thread?

Is there a package for linux that sends you email if your HDD is starting to fail and can do custom email alerts with errors via SMTP?

Just like email alerts on freeNAS?

What's the best tool to take screenshots with?
It doesn't seem like there's anything close to ShareX on Linux and that saddens me.

>>55865134
I had already tried ssh before, not sure the server is set up for ssh connection. I ended up using remmina remote desktop client, which allowed mt to connect.

>>55865456
Display (part of imagemagick)
Shutter if you want it to have a gui instead of shortcuts.

>>55865699
Sorry I kinda fucked up there, I meant import.

>>55865460
i don't even.

why is there vnc but not ssh?

insanity

Hello, FLT. My only net access is a Virgin Mobile Broadband2Go USB stick, the Novatel model. Can someone recommend a distro that can use it out of the box? I am asking for help instead of looking for myself because I have had a recent head injury (concussion). I need info a literal retard could understand.

>>55866022
>yfw literal retards can post on here

>>55866022
>Novatel
this one:
Novatel Wireless Ovation MC760


USB


Works out of the box


Virgin Mobile BroadBand2Go




vendor=0x1410 product=0x0531 / 0x6002


Switches product id to 6002 after eject of storage, then can be configured using network manager. Device must first be activated using WinXP or similar (on-device, windows-only configuration software)
?

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What's a mémé terminal emulator? I feel like I'm missing out using straight xterm.

>>55866111
st (stterm) for meme
gnome-terminal for being useful.

>>55866111
terminology with nyan cat theme.

cool retro term with any theme

hyperterm because made with javascript kek

>>55866158
What makes gnome-terminal better than xterm? Is it just the fact it's tabbed? or am I missing out on other good stuff?

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>>55866220
just general ease of use, it is kinda subjective.

>>55865895
It's my work server. It runs windows server 2012

>>55866111
Use URxvt like everyone else.

>>55866220
Nothing. gome-terminal is a bloated babby terminal.

>>55860634
it's just GNU

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Anyone know of a utility that automates file type organization?

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>>55866610
Thanks friends, having fun with urxvt now.

>>55866926
A file manager?

>>55860634
It's not about the importence of programs, it's simply the fact that it's the GNU project, started in the 80s, with Linux (developed in the 90s) added on top of it.

>communism
Please research about what communism actually is.

>>55866983
Not quite, this is the scenario: I used PhotoRec to recover a TON data from a clients failing HDD. PhotoRec worked beautifully but I'm left with about 150 directories filled with precious jpegs and tons of obscure file type. I need a way to quickly organize everything by file type.

>>55866943
Read this:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/rxvt-unicode
and
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources
for a perfect config.

>>55866943
>>55867044
You maight also run screenfetch with the -t flag.

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Requesting that "non-FREEEEEE" Stallman frog edit.

And any /fglt/ jokes you want to post as well.

>>55867274
>>>/r/linuxmemes/

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>>55867274
if i would post my thread specific folder we would lose 2 whole threads to me shitposting, but here is the frog one.

damn, pass if bretty gud.

might drop keepassx for it, but that would mean generating new passwords for most of my shit.

>>55867378
Thanks friendo

I'm installing dnsmasq.
However, it seems init is taking port 53, so dnsmasq can't take it.
Any ideas on what's wrong?

So I want to send data over netcat, in terminal I type

 nc [hostname] [port]

then a prompt from the server comes up and I enter my data, hit return and the server evaluates it.

How do I translate this into bash script?

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whats the point of installing linux when I can run ubuntu on windows 10 nativly?

is there no love for BLAG? supposedly a new BLAG 2400000 is coming out soon, look easy for a newb, i think? i am going to put it on a live cd, wish me luck

>>55867529
You can't. It's just a shitty emulation layer. I even considered installing 10 to run tensorflow on the GPU but you can't use GPu from Windows 10 Linux emulation layer.

>>55867520
replace [hostname] with your hostname
and
replace [port] with your port

Example:
#!/bin/sh
nc 192.1.3.3.7 1337

>>55867529
That's up to you fampai

>>55867529
gave it a shot on my win10 partition, not really the same thing.

>>55867529
Computing feels better without corporate dick up the butt.

>>55867574
oops I should have been more clear
say I wanted to do this lots of times
and the nc ... .. bit was in a loop
how do I 'answer' hte prompt from the server so to speak? putting the data in the line below nc ... ... would just try to run the bytes as a command

>>55867660
>how do I 'answer' hte prompt from the server so to speak? putting the data in the line below nc ... ... would just try to run the bytes as a command

nc 192.1.3.3.7 1337 <<HERE
cat /etc/passwd
HERE

>>55867660
man 1 expect

>>55867802
tyvm f a m

>>55867822
huge noob when it comes to Linux, but i am very interested.

Redpill me please .. Why should i ditch my Windows for Linux? Also, is it complicated to learn how to use? The functionality always kind of made me weary of installing linux. Any help would be appreciated.

>>55867867
>Redpill me
Please don't use /pol/-tier language here.

Using i3 wm, is there a way to remove scrollbars globally? I can do it per app, but it's working for some and not for others.

>>55868013
You should be able to remove them from the GTK theme.

>>55868012
off to a great start .. thanks for the tip

Why is GRUB configuration total ass?

I've got Debian installed on a laptop, and just set up a Void installation alongside it. update-grub just gives broken entries for Void that I would have to edit anyways, so how/where the hell can I write a manual entry for grub?

Or is there some other voodoo I can pull to get grub to do it right the first time?

>>55868119
Read the docs. It's GNU software, so don't expect it to be simple and easy to use for a use case simpler than the big list of "what if the user wants to..."s GNU goes down when making literally anything. Consider lilo if you don't have enough time to learn GNU's overpowered ENTERPRISE tier operating sys....bootloader.

>>55868046
I'm not using a GTK theme. i3 is configured through it's own config file and Xresources. Unless I'm missing something. I was looking at some configs and learned how to disable them per app through Xresources, but it's sloppy and I know there's another way. I just can't find it.

>>55868119
How old is your Debian install that it's still using Grub legacy? Void is rolling so it might be using the newer Grub 2
The manual entry is /boot/grub/grub.cfg

>>55868219
you're meant to write your own templates in /etc/grub.d. grub.cfg will be overwritten by a script any time GRUB or the kernel change.

>>55868219
>Grub legacy
Where was anything about grub legacy mentioned?

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Hey guys I'm a retard.
Could somebody explain to me how symbolic links work? I've googled this but it went over my head.

I have a pretty small SSD where I have everything installed, but I just got an HDD that I'd like to put all of my files on - though I'd like to access said files on my /home/user folder rather than going to the shitty place where I mounted it.

Could somebody explain to me how I can do this? I'm on Arch.

What's your favorite monospace font?

>>55868299
>Hey guys I'm a retard.
>I'm on Arch.

>>55868299
man ln
>>55868313
gohu, lemon, terminess

>>55868361
>inb4 le friendly reply

>>55868313
inconsolata

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>barely understand linux
>been using Gentoo for months

>>55868392
>>55868384
solid.

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I want a clean install of Xubuntu, how should I proceed?

Delete every partition and make one big partition of ext4?

I don't care about the Winshit loader.

>>55868642
If that's the setup you want

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>>55868642
I wrote this copypasta for Debian installs, but it should apply for Ubuntu as well.

Any critique is appreciated:

>If you want to get rid of Windows and only have GNU/Linux on your computer:

This is my personal way of doing it, but by no means "the right way"

During install, choose to manually partition your drive

Select your device (sda) and clear the partition table (this deletes all active partitions)

Make these partitions:
On your SSD
-100 MB EFI System Partition (if you're on UEFI)
-100 MB /boot partition with ext2 file system
-The rest of the free space on the SSD is assigned to an LVM physical volume

On your HDD
-Literally all of the free space on a single ext4 partition, which you can mount in a directory called /data or in /media/whatever, your choice

Proceed to configure LVM

-Create a volume group based on your LVM physical volume that you chose earlier. Name it myVG or whatever
-Create three logical volumes in said volume group
-30 GB volume for / (root) (name it myRoot or whatever)
-4GB or 8GB volume for swap (depends on how much RAM you have. some people prefer to not have a swap partition at all and just make it a file, that's fine too) (name it mySwap or whatever)
-the rest of free GB goes to /home (again, myHome or whatever)

Finish configuration of LVM

-When back on the partition screen, mark your 30 GB Logical Volume as / (root) and ext4 file system
-mark your swap LV as swap
-mark your /home LV as /home and ext4 filesystem

Continue with installation
When it's done, make "Documents", "Downloads", "Pictures", "Videos", etc folders in your /data (HDD) partition and symbolic link them to your /home ones, so stuff in those gets saved to your HDD and not your SSD.

Ta-da

Oh, and if you want to encrypt your system, it just takes one extra step. Mark your free space in the SSD as crypto, not as LVM, configure LVM on LUKS, and also encrypt your HDD if you want. Done

>>55868740
>>55868642
and since the copypasta was for an SSD/HDD setup, just apply the SSD bit in your case since you only have a hard drive. And boom, you're done. You don't have to do the symbolic links bit.

what's a nice FOSS web based VM manager?

something like proxmox or ovirt

I'm leaning towards ovirt but I'm looking for recommendations

>>55868740
hey quick question, how does filesystem crypto work with symlinks?

I assume they're ignored but I could be surprised

>>55868823
I would assume that they work like normal. If the symlink takes you to an encrypted drive that has not been decrypted during your session, then it would probably ask you for the passphrase, and if correct, it would work as usual

Here goes fucking ntohing reporting back in sometime to tell you if my xubuntu installation on 10 year old laptop will work

>>55868793
replying to myself

apparently oVirt is the basis for redhat's own vm management product so I might as well run that since I'll be using it as a testbed to prepare for my RHCE anyway

It wants me to restart

Now let see if I bricked this shit

>>55868299
You want to create a link for each and any file you'll add to your system? Really? Just mount you hdd somewhere in ~/

Senpaitachi it fucking works.

Free from Wangblows at least in 50% of my PCs.

>>55860336
>yfw the linux fags are trying to slowly slip the G away

not on my watch nigga

>>55868934
the fuck are you talking about Pajeet

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>>55868980
use the meme right you stupid kuck

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So, are there any things a new installation should do right away, other than to get latest updates?

Optimizing the performance by disabling some stuff probably wouldn't hurt.

>>55869117
Well first things first, install these on your Firefox:
>HTTPS Everywhere
>Ublock Origin

Check if ufw is enabled by typing sudo ufw status in your terminal. You may determine extra rules for it if you want. (Uncomplicated Firewall, it's a front-end to iptables and installed on Ubuntu by default I think)

Go through your Xfce settings and set your preferences. I don't use Xfce as I don't like it, but you'll probably find most of the things you need in the GUI menus there.

If you were looking for extremely lightweight, you should've really gone for Lubuntu since it uses LXDE, which is lighter than Xfce, but Xubuntu is alright on old hardware too

>>55869171
Yeah I've had those two installed even when I used Windows.

I opted to install the third party media things - assuming this meant MPEG support etc. but it also installed Flash sort of into the OS? Can't disable Flash from the Firefox addons page.

I just want like I had in Firefox, that it was disabled by default and I had to click whatever Flash object on the page for it play.

>>55869117
run

systemd-analyze blame

and disable everything you dont need

>>55869213
>Flash is installed
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Remove those packages from your computer altogether.
mpv plays basically anything that requires flash anyway, and you can install the Open With.. addon to play anything with mpv.

>>55869117
install vrms and and uninstall everything you dont need

>>55869231
mpv doesn't play flash games at all

>>55869246
I meant video players that are still stupid enough to use flash.
Do people still play flash games in $CURRENT_YEAR ?

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>>55869260
Sure they do

Is there really a reason to use a source-based distribution in CURRENT_YEAR?

I was going to install Gentoo/Funtoo but am doubting whether or not all the compiling will even make a difference on relatively new hardware.

I like the idea of having a cutting-edge, rolling release distribution, though. Assuming there's no noticeable speedup from a source-based distro is Arch the best thing out there? I just want a good up-to-date daily driver without "bloat".

>>55869398
Gentoo is not ecological.

>>55869260
Most of the material I fap to lately has been Jap flash hentai games. They're pretty good.

how to install wl drivers on debian? tried and I couldnt figure it out so i went back to ubuntu.

wish I weren't a game cuck so I could use Linux on my main PC too

>>55869440
links?

>>55869398
>Assuming there's no noticeable speedup from march=native
There isnt..on most microarchs, but on some - like Sandy Bridge - there is.

Dependencies, not the 'speedup', is the thing.

>>55869510
fuck

I have a Sandy Bridge mobile processor. Why does this specific architecture benefit from march=native?

Anyway, assuming I decide not to use a source-based distribution what other decent Arch alternatives are there? The only thing that attracts me to arch is the cutting-edginess and the large community. I don't want a meme distro with a dozen users.

Does anyone know the Hex color for the gentoo purple?

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Is Fedora good for newfags?

>>55869624
#54487a
#493f6a

What's the best lightweight/low maintenance XMPP server?

How do I set up a small ssd as cachedisk for hd's?

How do I read manpages?

>>55869862
Carefully.

>>55869862

man man

Is there a good voice control program? (speaking "browser" starts the webbrowser)

>>55869978
No, they all are evil

>>55868207
>GNU a shit
>better recommend deprecated software

>>55869978
there's one called Mycroft, but I've never checked to see if there's a usable desktop app.

>>55869706
i wouldn't say to use it as your first distro, but it's simple enough to use as long as you can partition your drives and add external repos, which is ezpz

>>55865326
>Butt = blasted

Ubuntu: M$ partners, Corporatism, Spying
Mint: insecure, blocks updates
Fedora: RH Testbed, NSA partner

Is there any good distro?

>>55870224
Debian.

>>55870224
>M$
The 90s called and want their meme back

>>55870224
Arch and Gentoo

>>55870258
>Arch: sekrit club of edgy 12 year olds
>Gentoo: 12 years compiling

>>55864804
Is there a theme to make modern KDE look like the earlier versions?

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>>55870254

>>55870254
Based anon

>>55870321
>>55870322
>>55870254
seriously, I can't picture myself using any other distro. It's got it all for everyone

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>>55870224

>>55870224
I'd recommend Manjaro for newfriends to play around and install Arch for serious buisness.
>>55870348
>>55870369
>>55870322
>>55870321
>>55870258
>get stable, end up with old packages, but security
>get unstable, end up with up to date packages, but delayed security
meh

>>55867035
find and a bash script would do it.

>>55870465
>unstable with delayed security
You mean testing.

Unstable doesn't have a security repo, the main package maintainers also include security fixes in the main repo

The "delayed security" of max a few days really shouldn't be a concern for a home testing user. And if security is that big of a priority, like you said, can't go wrong with stable. Unstable would be for developers who like bleeding edge with a safety net.

>>55870224
Void Linux

>>>55870258
>Arch

ebin

Have fun being an underaged mouth breather that won't shut the fuck up about "KISS" and "muh Arch Way" buzzwords that constantly have their meaning changed depending on what their inconsistent retarded Arch dev overlords deem appropriate for their edgy meme distro.

The real question is Debian or Devuan?

Debian has been the historical solid tried-and-true distribution but with the recent internal strife has it been lost some of its appeal?

>>55870513
>"KISS" and "muh Arch Way"
People misunderstood Arch anyway. It was never meant to be minimal: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

Damn, KDE 5.6 doesn't detect my other monitor.
I thought it would be out of beta by now.

>>55870529
Nope.

If you really want to go against the grain, there will always be options without systemd.

But Debian itself has not lost its appeal whatsoever, you make it sound like there was some sort of civil war when there really wasn't

>>55870549
It's just annoying how Arch kiddies constantly contradict one another.

>"Arch can be whatever you want it to be. It's a minimal system. KISS"
>Then why does it force systemd down my throat?
>KISS MUH ARCH WAY SDHLFPDSUYFIPDSO

>>55870585
What's wrong with systemd?

>>55870465
Security patches only exist because they don't want to update to newer versions where security leaks have been fixed, so they just backport the security fixes.
(Which can be pretty bad if you think that your old version is unaffected by a bug that was introduced in a later release, but got backported into your old version.)

>>55870657
It's too fast for slow brained.

>>55870761
Makes sense, thanks for clarify.

>>55870657
That's not the issue. It's that its users claim customizability and choice when it's clearly not the case.

You're free to Google around if you want to read about arguments against systemd.

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In case anyone needs a free as in freedom wallpaper.
https://msurguy.github.io/triangles/

>>55871214
Thank you

>>55871214
I'm wondering if imagemagick could do this too.

>>55871131
>Google around if you want to read about arguments against systemd.
Protip: There are none.

Hey I've used Linux before but I am going to travel overseas soon for slightly over a month, and I accidentally ruined my W7 install beyond repair.

I bought the T430 very recently, am plan on making it my main machine, I just need to pick an OS. I am certainly interested in learning more about linux and all, but as my time is running short I need to have it set up and ready for full usage once I leave on my little trip.

Should I install Ubuntu 16.04 or Lubuntu 16.04? I need the easiest experience, I don't care that it is a noob distro.

Also, is Ubuntu truly secure with Amazon disabled? I mean, does that switch actually disable the spyware, or is it like windows 10 where you can "disable" telemetry but it doesn't actually turn it off or anything.

>>55871214
the coloring and aspect ratio sucked, but I made an epic fork of it and now it doesn't sucks

thank

How do I change the keyboard layout in xorg?

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>>55871665
are you talking firmware or just https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard ?
>>55871214
not bad

what is the "correct" way of shutting down my system (no DE) via terminal?

>>55871754
The stuff you posted, but "setxkbmap" didn't work and some other stuff I tried didn't work either. I have put away that computer now though, gave up for today.

I will try again tomorrow.
So just ignore >>55871665 people

>>55871804
shutdown now
poweroff

>>55871804
>shutting down the system
REEE

>>55871876
no need to keep it powered on on when i am away for a few days.

 00:34:35 up 3 days, 14:28,  2 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.26, 0.29

>>55871401
Ubuntu still has Amazon, but Lubuntu/Xubuntu/etc. don't. It's part of the default Ubuntu environment, Unity, which derivatives don't have or use.
It's verifiable, but not really by you. more so than Windows, at least.

Unity a shit

"MIR", "Unity", "Unity3D", "Brexit", "Long Term Strategy", "Amazon"

No.

>>55871358
>Arch chose systemd therefore there's nothing wrong with it

ok, kid.

I have a Thinkpad T520 that supposedly supports UEFI. Every time I try to install grub during any Linux isntallation I get a "EFI variables aren't supported on this system" error.

Does anyone have a quick fix or should I just go with a standard MBR setup?

>>55872126
So what's wrong with it?

How can I tell if ForceFullCompositionPipeline is enabled?

>>55872186
Literally Google it. There are hundreds of debates on it.

>>55872196
Google gives me an idea it's the best init system around

Virtual box runs like crap for me no matter what I do. How do I fix this?

Also, I am getting tired of Windows. It gets slower and slower and makes me more angry. I want to try out Linux but I don't know a lot about it. Which distro should I try? It would be a plus if it looked kinda like Windows.

>>55872298
Run VBox in SSD and pass it your GPU

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>>55872298
try gentoo at least once

don't expect to get it working, but try to get into contact with dem ayyliums

>>55872312
I don't have an SSD.

>>55862221
and don't forget people liked the Mac OS 9 feel of Gnome 2.

Why does Xubuntu do pic related every time I boot
No matter how many times I press ctrl+c it keeps doing this for a good while
How do I make it stop

Idk if anyone is using vim here
but how do I delete while in insert mode?

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>>55872392
forgot pic

>>55872422
the delete key

>>55872447
Don't pull out power chord

>>55872392
>>55872447
It runs fsck when it detects disk problems. It could be set to run every time by defuault, but I doubt it. There should be a setting somewhere.

Are you sure you are booting in UEFI mode? In your boot menu make sure you are picking the right option.

>>55873087
was meant for >>55872144

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>>55860336
anyone got any suggestions for a non bloated good looking upto date linux distro ?

I want something that just works

>>55873108
fedora w gnome works good ootb for me
idk what bloat means 2u

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>>55872144
Disregard UEFI when you have the option.
UEFI is broken as fuck, it was meant as a BIOS with built in bootloader and nobody implemented it correctly. Stay with BIOS as long as you can.
Its stable as fuck. Never change a running system etc.

Only shit laptops support UEFI only. Try to avoid them.

The only good EFI implementation can be found in Apples laptops, but it lacks the features to boot other OS without additional bootloader too, so even Apple dun goofed

>>55873180
>nobody implemented it correctly
Linux works with it very well.

>>55873180
Yeah, I just went with a BIOS setup. No problems anymore.

I have officially installed Void Linux.

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>>55873263
Not on 32 Bit UEFIs. So, no, it sadly doesn't. It works, but only with one distro so far, I wouldn't call such a thing "well working".

I am going on holidays and I want a distro that can play media on 1080p (movies and series) and play some games on Wine with a good perfomance and looks minimaly good.

Is Mint a good choice?

I have to mention I don't want anything much complicated

>>55873817
No, just use Ubuntu with whatever DE you like.

>>55873817
Every distro can do that.

>>55873835
What would you recomend me?

>>55873817
>Is Mint a good choice?
Please, someone explain to me why Mint got so popular. Don't people read any tech news?

>>55873953
probably distrowatch fags

don't get it anyway.

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>>55873953
https://distrowatch.com

>>55873994
>>55873984
We should drop a note in the OP.
"popularity != quality"

pls no bully: http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/11/answering-controversy-stability-vs-security-is-something-you-configure/

>>55873994
>Debian above Schmubuntu
This one makes me happy.

>>55874057
Debian users actually care about the page hit rankings on distrowatch, priceless.

>>55874098
This is why nobody likes Arch users. I'm just happy that people lost interest in Canonicalware.
t. Arch user

>>55874098
>>55874163
>Archkids butthurting each others
Priceless

>>55874181
>Being this pretentious
Debian user no doubt.

Can't we all just get along?

t. unironic ubunguware user

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>>55874181
>>55874098
>my group of people is better than your group of people

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>>55874299
>posting a thumbnail

Which card would be best for gnu/loonix gaming in the future? Not impatient, so ok with waiting for drivers to mature. Thinking amd is getting their shit together, but haven't checked out nvidia much.

>>55874428
Please leave this board forever.

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>>55860389
>inb4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2efSysPvy8

Why don't FGLT recommend OpenSuse or Korora, OpenSuse has something similar to the AUR which also let's you package stuff for other distros and Yast is godtier to learn into sysadmin.

Korora basically is what LinuxMint and Manjaro are to Ubuntu and Arch, but with developing board actually having a security advisory (lead dev is an ex military netsec).

>>55860425
Definitively Arch.

>>55864058
Search 'Filesystem Hierarchy Standard infographic' on your favourite search engine.

>>55867529
You can get much better functionality using a Ubuntu Vagrant over Windows. I wouldn't trust Microsoft best practices (pic related and that the true reason to Windows 10 versioning was because they compared Windows version by those starting or not starting with 9, and not even using don't repeat yourself to correct this with ease) to something as sensitive as virtualization/emulation.
https://www.quora.com/What-makes-*nix-more-secure-than-Windows-1?share=1

>>55870657
leddit /r/linux/comments/2k5b7e/the_concern_isnt_that_systemd_itself_isnt/

>>55874443
Very on topic, unless you'd rather keep shit flinging instead.

>>55874428
R9 furry nano

>>55874477
I guess /g/ got enough GPU cancer for the next 200 centuries.

Why are so many /g/ users changing their opinion on Manjaro? It used to be considered Arch for plebs but now it's becoming the new meme distro.

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>>55874470

>>55874486
Eh I guess, but those threads are about even more shitflinging. Not really interested in that, just curious about the future in drivers is all.

>>55874506
Manjaro changed their security update policy

>>55874506
The date thingy. That was them right?

Some of the derivatives have shit like that, that should make an informed user wary.

>>55874506
Manjaro is okay, the webdev is a retard (forgot to refresh SSL certs twice, told users to turn their system clock back as workaround), so the whole project lost trust in the community, but the distro itself is okay. Tried it some days in a VM and was actually pretty impressed. No systemd (if you don't like), working tiling WMs out of the box, careless updates. Pretty noob friendly thing.

Ubuntu or Lubuntu?

>>55874653
Ubuntu server

>>55874653
Unity or LDE??

>>55874653
Debian + LXDE

>>55874669
>>55874661
>>55874660
the only reason I'm hesitant about Ubuntu is because of Amazon

I used ubuntu a while ago, before they implemented it. then I returned to windows.
I want to go back to Ubuntu as its easy mode, and my windows install just got fucked on my daily driver laptop.

I'm on my throwaway windows pc right now.

When I get around to doing a clean install of Debian will I need to worry about the BIOS or anything?
I'll be replacing Windows entirely.

Comfy script coming through.

#!/bin/bash

# NAME:         pdfwalker  
# AUTHOR:       (c) 2014 Glutanimate <https://github.com/Glutanimate/>
# DESCRIPTION:  Invoke one pdf file at a time
# DEPENDENCIES: mupdf
# LICENSE:      GNU GPLv3 (http://www.gnu.de/documents/gpl-3.0.en.html)        

############# Functions ###############

gui_notify(){
  notify-send -i application-pdf "PDF Walker" "$1"
  echo "$1"
}

arg_compose_filearray(){
    # recursively add pdf files and folders in given arguments to array
    unset Files
    FileCountCurrent="1"
    while IFS= read -r -d $'\0' File; do
        if [[ ! "$(file -ib "$File")" == *application/pdf* ]]
          then
              echo "Error: '$File' is not a pdf file. Ignoring."
              continue
        fi
        Files[FileCountCurrent++]="$File"
    done < <(find "$@" -type f -name '*.pdf' -print0 | sort -z --version-sort)
    FileCountTotal="${#Files[@]}"
}

arg_check(){
  if [[ "$FileCountTotal" = "0" ]]; then
    gui_notify "ERROR: No PDF files found."
    echo "Exiting..."
    exit 1
  fi
}

############## Checks #################

arg_compose_filearray "$@"
arg_check

################ Main #################

FileCountCurrent="1"
for File in "${Files[@]}"; do
  echo "Opening file $FileCountCurrent of $FileCountTotal:"
  echo "$File"
  mupdf "$File" > /dev/null 2>&1
  ((FileCountCurrent++))
done

echo "Done."

Hey kids, I'm updating the copypasta and since ghostbin is shitting itself lately, any alternative bins?

>>55874882
Also: post pasta you want to be added

>>55874797
nah.
you might be worried about having ancient packages, though, if you're installing debian stable.

Good desktop distro for university stuff and coding?

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>>55874925
Nah, I'll be on testing. Thank you.

>>55874952
Mine :^ )

>>55874882
What's wrong with pastebin? Is it non-free? What about a git wiki page?

>>55874952
Debian

>>55874952
Gentoo

>>55874952
Arch

>>55874952
Trisquel

Is there any way to remove titlebars from windows using xfce?

>>55875238
Edit your theme or install a tiling WM.
>>55874952
his: >>55874981

>>55874952
Use mine, it's better than >>55874981

I'm new to "productivity" in general. What DE/WM should I use for maximum productivity but still looks nice?

I'm running Void by the way.

>>55875279
How is a DE related to productivity?

>>55875279
Cinnamon, trust me

>people still use vim over emacs

>>55875279
Mine :^)

>>55875290
keybinds, tiling, bloat idk

I am attempting to install Fedora.

However, I am retarded.

My first question is, when I am in my BIOS screen to select where to boot from, I see my USB with the live image twice: once with its name and once with "UEFI" at the front.

Which one should I boot from? Is there really a difference?

Thread: >>55875312

>>55875279
Use mine, it's better than >>55875300