Linux

>blizzard games and curse chat
Nothing of value will be lost, I assure you.

WoW ran on linux last i checked, and their new game heartstone is a very simple one as far as i know, it would probably run on browser does it not?
I dont know hat curse chat is but there are plenty chat clients on linux

Good luck finding a distro that is not Ubuntu

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>>55859712
op here

i've tested a lot of distros, im just at the cross in the road right before you make the jump you know?

>>55859749
I get you. I'm waiting to finish this project before ditching windows and the only option seems to be debian. whats the one you settled for?

>>55859676
Lots of Blizzard games work, dunno about curse chat but maybe

>>55859818
debian or mint

>>55859854
so i can use battle.net?

No Overmeme yet though.

>>55859971
>yet

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>>55859749
I'd recommend OpenSUSE. Easy install, Zypper (the package manager), YAST, 60k programs in software repositories, and the mascot is a gecko.

>>55859971
>>55860012
Seems fixable though

>>55860018
>60k programs in software repositories
This isn't accurate because OpenSUSE do what Debian do and split up packages in to sometimes 3-5 different packages. 95% of all these are libraries and not actual programs you can use.

Gentoo for example which doesn't split packages only has 13k, and 80% of that is still libraries.

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>/b/

>>55860018
It's a chameleon, not a gecko.
It's the qtest GNU/Linux mascot, followed by the Xubuntu mouse.

>>55859676
i play heartstone and heroes of the storm everyday on my linux machine(ubuntu gnome) with playonlinux and it works flawlessly.

>>55860018
post paper please

Linux is a meme, try a BSD

>>55864805
Yes it is, that doesn't mean that it's bad.

>>55859818
>>55859749
>>55859873
>55859873
>>55859676
FFUCK OFF RETARDS
OP you want a REAL distro like arch linux, here
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide
Enjoy linux completely free of bloat, the freedom to customise your experience out of the box to be the way YOU want it. Arch places YOU at the center. Take control.

>>55864805
BSD isn't good as a desktop OS

>>55859676
I play Diablo 3 every once in a while. Works with newest wine out of the box, with the small exception of having to manually adjust the resolution in a config file.

>>55859676
>i would have to loose such as blizzard games
https://wiki.winehq.org/Main_Page

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>>55859676
pls, consider killing yourself. if you value gaming more than your privacy, a programmer-friendly environment and the freedom of really OWN your operating system instead of having just the license to use it (see: windows), then you're filthy scum.
if you cannot renounce to gaming, at least do a dual boot partition

>>55864927
>linux shill talking about security
Honestly, if you value memes more than security you should just kill yourself.
BSD is the most secure operating system out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdEFzhtHwhk

>>55864927
>2016
>can't run a game from 2003 because libre drivers suck at 3d
The year of the linux desktop will only come when graphics drivers are as good or better than windows.

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I wouldnt recommend it fulltime. I use win7 on my desktop and linux on my laptop. The first few months with it were suffering and it caused some serious issues since then, fuck knows why, but I had to do a complete re-install two times because things got so fucked that they could not be unfucked. I use it only for watching videos and reading VN's during mornings before actually getting up. No idea how ubuntu managed to shit itself from just that.

>>55864963
New Windows can't run many games from 2003 too, though, even in the compatibility mode.

>>55864949
BSD doesn't have any foss distro. (gnu\)linux does. of course you cannot talk about security if your own os has proprietary code that you know jack shit about what it actually does and it could be a backdoor. now fuck off

>>55864805
BSD is a meme. Everything breaks an security is a joke.

Bad Security Distros = BSD

>>55864963
I don't care about normies. I know full well that they like to get cucked by the kikes if that means that they can play the latest games

>>55859888
Yes you can, I'm playing Hearthstone with no issues on Linux. You can use PlayOnLinux to install it easily.

>>55859687
this

>>55864988
fuck off
You probably don't even run a freetard distro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXS8ljif9b8
Get schooled by overlord de raadt cunt.

>>55859687
obviously a troll...

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Mandatory:

Pros:
On Linux you'll get better performances than Windows once devs port the games.
Your system is malware free.
Your system won't crash as much as Windows do.
By not buying Windows you can use the money to buy games instead.

Remember, no tux, no bux:
1. Don't trust a company when they promise a linux release, wait until the official release.
2. Don't be ashamed to post on the game forum or steam discussions for telling developers to port a game you wanna play on linux.
3. Wine is great when you want old tittles or that aren't high on resources, but is not the final solution. You're not sure if the game will run properly.
4. The unique solution to gaming on linux is to force developers using openGL / vulkan / game engines permitting a cross platform software.
5. When you see a developer supporting Linux promote him as much as you can on forums, write about him on your blog and tell your friends how much you appreciate his effort. Remember, Gabe Newell believes in you.

>Steam
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux

>GOG.com
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/08/lgogdownloader-command-line-gogcom-game.html

>Thread on /t/ (Torrents) on ported videogames
>>>/t/707928

>News and Reviews
https://www.gamingonlinux.com
https://lgdb.org/
http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=home

>Open source games
http://www.penguspy.com
https://libregamewiki.org/Main_Page
https://ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw

>Wine wiki
https://wiki.winehq.org/Main_Page
>Database of games running in Wine
https://appdb.winehq.org/
>Wine Staging (latest and experimental features for Wine)
https://github.com/wine-compholio/wine-staging/wiki/Installation

>PCI/GPU Passthrough
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj2lkPpoAhE
https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2z0evz/gpu_passthrough_or_how_to_play_any_game_at_near/

>>55865037
I run trisquel, dipshit

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>>55864876
> places YOU at the center
> Take control
sudo rm -rf /

>>55865053
You forgot one major advantage of lincucks.
Run your windows pc for a year, and I guarentee it will become slow as fuck. You're forced to reinstall every few months. Lincucks doesn't suffers from this.

>>55865054
FREETARDS FUCK OFF

>>55865085
Oh yes, firefox is not like in windows. I can have multiple programs and still run games and browse /g/.

>>55865099
/g/ was born as a freetards' board, dipshit. now it's shit because of newfags such as yourself have invaded it

>>55865152
And /r9k/ was born as a board for fresh OC and see what happened to that place.
You cannot stop it, just leave.

>>55865168
Authoritarian faggot, YOU leave.

We are here from before you came with your continuous shitposting.

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>being able to run less applications I'd an advantage to cucknix

>>55865168
you're not a big guy enough. We still feel in charge. now get the fuck out

>>55865184
95% of windows programs run under wine at equal or better performance.
If your cpu supports vtx, you can even just run a windows VM and have 0 loss of gaymen performance.

>>55859676
It's not a meme, people do seriously use it full-time. It's just different from Windows.

>blizzard games
WoW, HotS, SC2, D3 and Hearthstone all run on Linux. Overwatch does not (yet) because of their heavy, extremely invasive anti-cheating measures. (Will take some time to bypass)

>curse chat
Not even sure why you would use this. I must be autistic or something, because there are so many better ways to communicate that lose you nothing so I cannot comprehend why you would willingly use this. But oh well.

>>55859818
Not him but I started out my Linux journey with debian as well, until I got so pissed off by lack of control that I switched to the only distro that gave me full control: Gentoo

5 years later, haven't looked back ever since. This distro was basically made for me.

>>55865213
>95% performance
>Less native support
>Thinking emulation can be faster for gaming
Unixfags, everyone

>>55864876
this post reminds me so much of that “hello /g/” comic and its many variations

>>55865230
VT-x is basically CPU-supported emulation with virtually no overhead. If you actually knew anything about processor technology you'd know that.

>>55859676
Linux is usable for an adult. There is more screwing around to be done up-front to get a particular program working, but then it generally leaves you alone. Windows and Mac are always interrupting your workflow to piss up your leg.

One small but very annoying example is loading a new program. On Windows, the os will bring it to front once it has loaded, assuming you have been patiently waiting for it to be ready. In practice this means that whatever else you are doing gets interrupted. On a gnome desktop, you get a little notification that the program is ready to use, but it doesn't grab focus. It's a small thing, but representative of why I prefer Linux.

>>55865230
Literal retardation.
Wine Is Not an Emulator.
And as long as you have the RAM for it, a VM works like a charm.

>>55865238
>>55865255
>Still pretending less applications and less performance is ok
Damage control: the post

>>55859687
The only games worth playing are on battlenet.
atm everything else is trash.

>>55865270
Calm down rajeet, nobody asked you to stop using Microshill NSA OS. you're not being attacked. Just hide this thread and find some other GPU war to participate in

>>55865230
> thinking that wine is an emulator

that's your average winfag: he shits on what he doesn't know and he gets cucked by NSA and micro$oft all the time

>>55865278
>WoW
Killed off by ability pruning

>HS
Sure if you enjoy netdecks, pay2win and RNG.

>HotS
Unplayably bad matchmaking last time I tried it. (And I mean seriously, of the type where people at 3000 and at 500 MMR were in the same game)

>D3
Basically a glorified slot machine. The gameplay is almost nonexistant, it's just RNG.

>Overwatch
Doesn't run on Linux

basically the only thing left is SC2, which is fine if you're into fast-paced action RTS but I personally am not

oh well

>>55859676
Get linux, use wine/a windows VM for shit you can't give up.

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>>55865290
>Avoiding discussion on less performance and native support. Ad hominem after being btfo

>>55865363
the only who who btfo is the anon who said that wine is an emulator. fuck off shills

>>55865363
>Avoiding discussion on less performance and native support.
There's nothing to discuss. You're free to try it yourself if you don't believe it.

Linux is free as in freedom. There's nothing stopping you. Knock yourself out.

>>55859676
No interjection from Stillman?

>>55865446
>There's nothing stopping you
Less native support and worse performance are.

If I want to install Linux can I run a VM to play games on it? Or it would have a poor performance?
> Dark SOuls 3

>>55864927
>having autism

>>55865503
Prove it

It is not for everyone.
If you want to play games, use windows.
If you want to make an AI that play the game, use linux

If you just browse the internet and check email and such then Linux Mint Cinnamon will work perfectly. If you are into games then Linux is a meme.

>>55865506
You have five options:

1. Run the game natively (only works if the developer releases a Linux binary. Most indie devs do, but most AAA devs don't)

2. Run the game via WINE (works for most games, but some don't - especially ones with heavy DRM. It helps if you have a crack). Performance varies wildly (some games are slower, some are equal, some are better than windows)

3. Run the game via KVM/qemu with VGA passthrough (note: requires an internal GPU, so you can have the host OS use the iGPU and attach the discrete GPU to the VM). Native performance and guaranteed to work, but doesn't work in all hardware configurations

4. Run the game inside a VM with virtualized graphics. Will be slower than native, either slightly or significantly depending on what virtualization tech you're using. (KVM+virgl3d can achieve realtime GPU emulation, as can something like vmware)

5. Dual-boot. Always an option. In fact, I still dual boot for gaming (I boot into Ubuntu)

>>55865522
>>55865213
Linux shitters BTFO themselves all the time

>>55865270
Noted vm. You can run a windows virtual machine in Linux at 95% speed. If you pass a gpu through you can play games that won't run in Linux. If virgil3d finally reaches public beta you won't even need the passthrough.

>>55859749
Debian-based tends to be best suited for desktop.

>>55864876
You may be talking about gentoo, not arch

>>55865589
>KVM+Virgil3d
Have you found any documentation on setting it up? The whole project has been tight on details.

>>55864876
>systemd cucks
>take control
Choose one

>>55865668
As much as we hate it, systemd was chosen for practical function. It makes it slightly easier for developers to make the switch.

>>55865666
Nope. I managed to get a CLI running through virgil but starting X made the VM unresponsive.

I eventually found another way to accomplish what I was trying to do, so I stopped trying. Either way, it requires guest support which I strongly doubt Windows has so I don't know why I even mentioned it

>>55865589
>3 and 4
I have an Core i7 2600 and a 770ti, do you think it would be possible?

About dual-boot it's a nay. I have Arch in another HDD but I never boot on it.

>>55865270
Nigger, less performance, believe it or not, *is* OK in games. The game either runs or it doesn't. A game running at 100% CPU under bare-metal windows is already going to be unplayably slow. On the other hand, if your CPU is able to comfortably run a game, adding the virtualization or wine overhead is not going to be enough to keep it from running at all.

>>55865681
Whatever merit systemd may hold, they lost me at
>binary
>fucking
>logs
My autism is too triggered to use that.

>>55865668
90% of the retards advocating for arch must have never tried FreeBSD, otherwise they'd stop with the "more control" shit.

>>55865755
Is *BSD actually usable for reasonably practical tasks (desktop, multimedia, office work, nothing too professional) or is it just a meme? Anyway, for the control there's LFS

>>55865715
Check if your CPU has VT-d support

Apart from that, refer to google and guides

>>55865230
Wine
Is
Not an
Emulator

>>55864876
This is LITERALLY the exact opposite of what arch linux stands for

Arch linux is all about simplifying the developers' job as much as possible - they only support one version of packages, one configuration, one init system, one package manager, etc.

The people who think arch is about choice essentially have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, and are probably confusing “choice” and “flexibility” with the ability to install different packages (protip: every distro lets you do this)

>>55865805
Yes, it have.

I will check it for more, but thanks for the info, I know how to start now.

>>55865784
*BSD is usable for those tasks if you hate yourself and like wasting time (which is why it would be a great fit for many of the archfags here). It has WAY worse driver support than Linux does, so you'll never be able to use your new GPUs or anything, though.

On the other hand, the BSDs do have a bunch of things that I really appreciate as a programmer.

What would you rather have OP:
- a shitty kit car assembled by few dudes in their garage that needs constant maintenance and repairs
- mercedes S class (it's not free like that kit car, but you can easily steal it and noone will give a fuck about it including police)

if your answer is merc than stick with windows

>>55865348
Well the only worthwhile things about HS are arena and brawl sometimes.

>>55866017
What would you rather have OP:
- an overpriced SUV that needs constant maintenance and repairs but has a shiny facade

- A mid 1990s honda with higher-quality internals, better fuel efficiency, better speed. Plus, it's given to you for free by your friends who are car enthusiasts.

If you'd rather have the SUV, go with windows

>>55866310
the SUV also has built-in tracking that allows law enforcement to see where your car is at any given point in time + its contents “for your own safety, citizen”

>>55861791
this

>>55859818
i can recommend ubuntu. forget the shitposting about unity and "muh, babbies first loonix", it's a full featured linux with every aspect of comfort you can expect from an OS. also, 4 years of guaranteed support and an easy option to update is gold, also the low hardware minimum.

meme
\thread

>>55866732
Go for xubuntu instead of vanilla. It works just as well but doesn't use unity.

Too bad 16.04 caught the systemd disease, though.

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>>55866787
actually, i like unity. looks and feels like GNOME 3 sucking off blackbox. get a nice theme like ultraflat and you're set.

>inb4 no custom pape
still working on that.

>>55865681
You are mistaken distribution maintainers with software developers. The linking to systemd for developers is to reduce functionalities in the main application by heavily depending on systemd. In short, surrender to our leader or else.

One bad thing systemd brought is the divide in the Linux world. With now two ways to creating software you either use system calls of systemd. At the end of this you have two systems, pure Linux and systemd/Linux. And that is the best of scenarios because if Red Hat wins...

>>55867523
Personally I've already started calling my OS Linux/systemd - because when I think about it, systemd itself provides so many of the key OS components that are normally provided by an OS like OS X or Windows

>>55867523
>because if Red Hat wins
FREE SOFTWARE WILL BE ENGULFED BY ETERNAL DARKNESS AND NSA SHALL READ EVERYONE'S MAIL

Seriously, I dislike systemd myself, but I asked two of my friends who work with Linux daily, one of them being a professional paranoid (working in the IT security sphere and being a cryptogeek). Both said systemd is ok and was, in fact, long overdue because of how shitty the initscript system was. So I guess systemd de-facto monopoly isn't a tragedy.

>>55864876
>>55865827
Actually the strength of Arch is that it gets in the user's way as little as possible (unlike a certain distro that rhymes with "lesbian") without necessarily presenting you with complicated decisions (e.g. compile options, kernel compiling, setting up low-level stuff like udev, etc.) unless you explicitly seek them out. THAT is what 'KISS' is about.

>>55867762
>he thinks debian rhymes with lesbian
wtf man

also
>gets in the user's way as little as possible
the only thing arch doesn't get in the way of is pacman breaking your system because “muh bleeding edge”

>>55867832
Literally never managed to break a bare metal Arch install. On the other hand, I'm capable of breaking Debian with a single apt-get command.

>>55859676
I play Hearthstone in Wine (using PlayOnLinux to set it up) and I have no problems

>>55859676
do you really only have one machine? I run windows on some of my computers and linux on others

>>55867762
>does not present user with complicated decisions
Kek. Describes Arch userbase pretty well.

>>55867846
bare metal being code for having no programs installed in it? :^)

I bet you weren't around during the python2->python3 transition

If you like spending hours to get basic functionality and reading forum posts from 2005 then Linux is the OS for you.

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>>55865099
Hey fuckoff you cuck!

>>55867832
Everything rhymes with lesbian when you think about it hard enough.

>>55866843
Yeah, unity's not terrible, but xfce is lighter out of the box and is very similar to how gnome used to be, which is probably why I still prefer it.

>>55868000
Are you a Gentoo user? Because otherwise you don't have much to be proud of yourself.

>>55868014
>reading forum posts from 2005
Haha, good luck, all of their advices are out of date. Even 2011 is too old for anything but Debian shit

>>55868228
Coincidentally, yes I am.

>>55868251
Don't you have a browser update to compile for another 5 hours?

>>55868267
Oh, in fact I do, thanks for the reminder.

>>55859676
Just duel boot.

>>55868371
>duel boot
But who will win, wincucks or lincucks?

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>>55868267
No.
24 seconds to install Firefox and Google Chrome, way faster than Windows.

>>55859676
GNU is pretty fucking good anon, use it

>>55859676
>wat do /b/ ?
>/b/

Well done retard.

>>55868502
>installing binaries
What else could I expect from a tripfag.

>>55865080
liberal spotted

>>55868360
And finished, which makes it about 30 minutes to shitpost and watch anime.

>>55868536
Do you honestly compile Firefox? Chromium?
There is no reason to if you aren't a developer.

>>55868888
Yes I do, because muh useflags and muh processor optimisation. Firefox takes only 30 minutes, see above.

>>55868888
If he honestly spends the 5+ hours of compile time and tens of gigabytes for the FF/Chromium source (and the time it takes to download that source), then you should just feel sorry for him.

>>55868930
Dude there is no reason to its all javascript, it won't be any faster unless you do the profiling shit that takes days to finish.

>>55868966
Well, whatever. At least I'm satisfying my autism this way.

>>55865735
Yup. Grand Design over basic utility. Fuck that.

>>55859676
If you're happy with your current setup and everything works, don't change it.

I use linux full time but if you're happy stick with windows/mac/whatever you currently use (though windawesome can be configured nicely to be linux-like)

>>55859676
It's a meme, don't fall for it OP.

>>55859676
GPU passthrough normie.

>>55864949
The only good BSD (FreeBSD) has security flaws and OpenBSD has remote vulnerability stated in their main page. >>55867597

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Which webbrowser is best for Linux??

>>55871840
Ice cat

>>55865184
>>being able to run less applications I'd an advantage to cucknix
There's a difference between less applications and less "Big Name" applications. Linux has way more useful software than most people realize. Politics aside, I can't even pretend to have a need for Windows, there's simply no advantage if you don't need Photoshop or CAD.

>>55864876
add bleeding edge then it's perfect

>>55871840
>otter browser

>>55859676
All Blizzard games except Overwatch work on Linux.
For Overwatch i just click Reboot, wait 3 seconds for Linux to shut down, then 15 seconds for Windows to start. Can you not afford to waste 18 seconds of your life to be able to run a better/more secure/FOSS OS most of the time?
also
>curse chat

>>55873100
Why the hell doesn't Overwatch work?

apparantly there is a linux wow client but its only accessible to blizzard and they use it for testing

>>55873118
built on dx11 multicore rendering, not enough of an install base to bother porting

Just get windows 7 my lad

>>55868521
i think you're the retard here

>>55868543
>Conservative in 2016: an individual who is politically but ultimately philosophically cornered by wedge issue welding zealots but probably didn't have much sense of a larger picture of own personal standing within an infrastructure anyway.

Started with mint. Have a new machine and it worked pretty well with little problems. Found it to be bloated when installed lubuntu on an old laptop. Thought that a system that makes a pentium m work O.k. should make an i3 haswell refresh go like stink. Switched to lubuntu on new machine. Lots of problems. Found solutions on google. Many hours spent. New machine is super quick now with less bloat and virtual windows is fast too. Ultimately it was worth it to me since the time spent on every operation is will way more than equal the time I put into making my machine faster. Plus I hate sloggy gingerbread interfaces that offer an aesthetic lie of safety but take away resources and your time. Time that can be spent shitposting. If you read this you have it coming to you.

>>55859676
I use mint, but I have a separate hdd in my tower for Windows for when I'm in the mood for Overwatch. There is only 1 game that I want to play that is also available on linux - Chivalry. Everything else is Windowsland.

Overall though, I have a ssd for linux (main), a ssd for windows (shit-tier ssd I got for $40 because the urge to game was too high), and a hdd for storing my horse porn.

Pretty good setup here.

I'd recommend Linux Mint for a n00b like you.

Good luck fa/g//g/ot.

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>>55864773
Not him, but here you go :^)