/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for X230!

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Second for T601F+X201s supremacy

>>55845840
DAMN, thats a small thinkpad
post more pics of that s31 xsauc

Just ordered a T420 last night. The only issue I can see is that it comes with Windows 10, which I don't have a physical copy of. Is it going to be fine if I just manually remove all the bloatware, or should I find a copy of 10 and do a clean reinstall? Does MS have a thing for that if you have a key but no physical disc?

>>55848792
Install debian

>>55848792
>>55848800
Dub dubs confirm, you should install debian

>>55848792
Install 7 or 8.1

>>55848792
you can just download w10 from microsoft themselves and make a bootable usb drive

Why is the T460p I want like 700 euros more expensive than in the US? ($1000 in US, vs 1600 euro here in Europe).

I tried a virtual mailbox, but Lenovo won't ship to them.

Any other way I can buy a T460p for a reasonable price?

>>55848929
http://www.lapstars.de/thinkpad-campus/t-serie-campus/t460p-campus/standard.html
you just need a proof that you're a student

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Are these scratches on the surface of my T420 anything that can be "fixed"? They're a bit more unsightly than I'd like them to be, but I don't know if there's anything I can do about them.
Also, anyone got any good guides on how to fully clean/maintain a ThinkPad?

I want to get something portable and relatively new

I don't feel like shelling out 1000€ for a new x260, so I'm probably looking for a used x240/x250

what should I consider a decent price for these in the yuroland?

>>55849296
>X240
ISHYGDDT

Can I hackintosh a t420? Seems like it has similar hardware to 2011-2012 MacBook Pro. Anyone done it? If so what version of OS X were you using? How was wifi compatibility?

>>55849344
the physical buttons aren't that big of a deal for me , I'm leaning towards the x250 though

is there anything wrong with that model?

>>55849378
Have you had the prerequisite number of cocks up your ass?

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>>55848792
ThinkPads come with OEM key burned to BIOS. There's software to retrieve the key, google it.

nth for SPACE

what's the most powerful thinkpad? i make 3DCG a lot.

>>55850064
rMBP

>>55849652
makes sense
that's why I didn't have to reactivate manually after a fresh install

>>55849554
Epic xD

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Posting this in case some Thinkpad owners can give me a hand.

>Buy a T530 Thinkpad on Ebay with no battery included
>Buy a separate "genuine lenovo 9 cell" battery ($22) on Ebay
>Turn on laptop, Win8 interface tells me the battery is "plugged in, not charging", and stuck on 7%.
>Occasionally it flashes and says "plugged in, charging" for a millisecond but then it goes back to "not charging".
>Boot into Linux, the battery is "charging" but stuck on 6%

>Search the web for solutions
>Successfully boot up computer without battery
>Uninstall all adapter drivers and battery drivers in win8 Device Manager
>Nothing works

>Go into Control Panel... Devices and Printers... [Computer Name]... Properties... Hardware
>In the list of devices, "Lenovo PM Device" (probably power management) is broken
>"Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete"
Maybe that's the problem.

Wat do /g/? Any other ideas?
If not, should I return the whole laptop or just the battery, or any tips to avoid this stuff in the future.

>>55850525
buy a battery battery that's actually genuine

>>55850525
>>55850581
Yeah, basically just stop being a cheapass. Genuine batteries will run you $50+, but it's the only way to not get shit batteries.

I'm considering to buy an x230 with i5-2310m for 380€. Is it worth it or what should I look for around 400€?

>>55850525
You got what you paid for.

>>55850645
What other specs does the x230 have? You can get a used x230 (class A) with an IPS display for around 350€ on ebay

>>55850525
If you bought the battery used with no screenshots of designed/charged capacity and cycle count, it may just be fucked.

If it's a battery for a '20 series it won't charge without flashing the battery auth hack for the embedded controller.

It's possible, but unlikely, that the mobo charge circuitry is fucked.

You should have lurked moar.

>>55848680
Middle click is not working on Windows 10 for my T60. I got tpmiddle.exe and it didn't solve my problem. What should I check that I have done wrong? (inb4 using W10)

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>>55848703
Out of curiosity, when would you use one over the other?
Aren't they very similar specs wise?

pic not related

>>55850785
It has 8gb ram and 120gb ssd which is new.

I lost the HDD bracket screw, HDD cable, HDD cable connector bracket and HDD cable connector bracket screw for my X250. Is there any store that has this stuff? I could only find HDD cables on Ebay. IBM doesn't seem to stock X250 parts in my country.

I saw in the guide that the price on a T520 could vary quite a bit. I'm looking at one for 364 usd. It has 8gigs of ram, a 500GB hd, intel 3000 hd graphics and an i7-2620M 2,7 GHz.
Would it be worth a buy?

Otherwise I'm also looking at a T440s for 467 dollars, 8gigs of ram, an i5 and and an 180gb ssd. Both used.
I'm leaning towards the T440s at the moment, but what does /g/ think? I intend to use it for schoolwork and surfing.

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r8 me m8s

>>55849296
X240 amd x250 have drastic corners cut in terms of quality

>>55851931
Also I'm in Sweden, so the prices here are a wee bit higher on account of the smaller amount of Thinkpads in circulation. If I were to buy from outside Sweden I'd have to purchase a new keyboard as well. And the trackpad on the T440s is no big deal to me.

>>55852064
Oh, Not that guy but does that apply to the T series as well?

>>55851634
T601F serves as my main machine at home in its Advanced Dock. X201s is my mobile shitposting unit, being much smaller and lighter than the T601F while offering comparable CPU performance and screen resolution. As much as I love my T601F and find it far more portable than 15" widescreen laptops, there's no denying that it's a big, heavy son of a bitch and the X201s isn't.

>>55852115
>T601F
Specs?

>>55851994
$genericlaptop

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What happens when you don't remove kebab... TP 240.

>>55851931
>>55852104
Anyone?
I would also like to add that they both come with Win 7, and Win10 respectively.

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>>55852303
Nothing extreme, just an average by-the-numbers T601F. It does what I need it to.

>>55851724
Check how much x230 models with TN screen, 4GB RAM and a HDD are on ebay, I guess if you upgrade the RAM and SSD yourself, you can get a thinkpad with a larger ssd for the same price.

>>55852680
Someday I will end assembling mine. ;_;

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>>55852732
Picture related. First I need to fix the resolution, getting a better panel.

anyone know how to unfuck my x220 running arch linux?

I tried installing steam and in the process also installed xf86-video-intel which is the open source intel graphics driver.

Prior to doing all this I would boot into X with maybe 100-120 MiB of Ram usage.
Now after installing this driver I am booting into X with 350 MiB. free -m tells me ~120 is used and with another ~150 in buff/cache.
I was thinking it has to do with the x220 HD 3000 integrated graphics using a portion however even after uninstalling the driver I have the same higher ram usage.

>>55850525
Ivy Bridge based and newer dankpads will reject all chinese batteries, unless you flash the EC with override patch.
Also kys

>buy mom an A+ condition Thinkpad T420 last year
>tfw she's beating it to shit
>tfw there's a huge noticeable gash right on the display
>food and grease all over the keyboard and display
>sauces smudged into the speaker grills and cracks
>doesn't look like it's ever been wiped down or cleaned despite the fact that I do it every few months
Women can't take care of electronics/machines for shit.

>>55852943
Run a non-meme distro instead?

I'm grabbing a new T460 soon and plan to get it with the default 2.5" 500GB HDD. I can just rip that shit out and toss in any normal 2.5" SSD, right?

>>55853727
Yes you dense nigger. Stop being a jew and get an SSD.

>>55853842
I'm sorry I am stupid and just wanted to check with my good friends at the 4chan.
I already have a 250GB SSD so I don't really want to buy a new one and pay extra to have Lenovo install it.
Thank you.

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Post rare /classic trackpoint/ pics

My X220 idles at around 45 degrees Celsius.
Is that an unusual temp?

>>55853970
Its barley high. Should be fine.

>>55853970
Mine's starting to idle around 67, I'm psyching myself up for repasting

>>55851931
>>55852104
>>55852639
I was also wondering if there's any particular variety of SSD you have to use in a T520, or if it's all standardized. The T520 also doesn't come with an optical drive, but I've got a laptop with one I can cannibalize. Will that work or must the optical drive be a certain brand?

>>55852943
>how to unfuck my x220 running arch linux
sorry it's fubar

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>>55853933
They sold green and raspberry caps once, only in Japan.

>>55852115
Your T601F in the dock, do you have a gpu in the dock?

Is your T601F machine at home powerful enough for hi10p animu? Streaming 1080p60 content? Anything it's kinda slow at doing?

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>>55854187
>Your T601F in the dock, do you have a gpu in the dock?
Yes, an R7 240. I've heard there are more powerful options that the dock can use, but this one was sure to work.

>Is your T601F machine at home powerful enough for hi10p animu?
No idea, not autistic enough about chinese cartoons for that. I've never noticed it having difficulties with playing 1080p video, even on the integrated. It gets hot as hell, but playback is smooth. I'm just a VLC pleb though, it might not play so well with your mpv and madvr or what have you.

>Streaming 1080p60 content? Anything it's kinda slow at doing?
It struggles noticeably with 1080p webms in the browser. Using an external player works fine, though. For day to day tasks, it performs just fine. There are some games that are simply not playable on such a weak dualcore processor, though. Don't expect to run any recent AAA games or anything of the sort. I've noticed in particular games that use Havok physics are completely unplayable, even at the lowest possible resolutions and settings.

>>55853933
Furry trackpoints sound like ass to manufacture.

Is it possible to connect/disconnect a slice battery without shutting down / hibernating first?

>>55851931
Please respond?

Is there anywhere that I can get a dead 3XXX model Helix?
There's a bunch of parts that I need to replace on multiple Helix computers. Messed up cables and/or motherboard on one or two computers, rubber foot missing on one, and a fan noisy on one.

>>55849026
Try the automotive plastic trim care products, they are known to shine and buff thinkpads pretty well.

>>55850064
Fully specc'd out W series, some of the P series are pretty high end as well.

>>55851994
> running $windows on such a low end thinkpad

Thoughts on thinkpad edge? Been considering getting one, i know all you guys will tell me to get an older model but i prefer the look of the edge and the specs are more up to date.

>>55854962
>running $windows on such a low end thinkpad
It runs well even on mine, see >>55852762.

What would you guys recommend if I wanted something to do some "light" gaming? By light I mean the most intense game would be CS source

>>55855038
t420 with discrete nvidia NVS or egpu

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how do I get this thing working on Arch?
it's connected right but lsusb shows nothing

>>55855233
Install a non-meme distro

>>55855233
is it enabled in bios?

>>55855337
ohh that's a thing? I'll have to check, sec

>>55855337
>>55855437
anon! fucking yes man it works perfectly.
thank you so much :)

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Running some stuff, hence the somewhat high temps. They usually stay at 45-50C.

>>55848680

>mfw I'm an elitebook peasant :^(

>>55855519
I once tried a 15" elitebook and it was very very nice.

>>55855554

I will admit, it's extremely nice, the build quality is pretty damn good.

but the trackpoint cap is just shit. So, I replaced it with a trackpoint cap from one of my non-functioning T60. Feels beautiful now.

I'm currently using an Elitebook 8440p (i7 version)

>>55854867
herro
plz help b0ss

>>55854962
It runs perfectly on my system, also
>tripfagging

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Shall I? I've got a 320 ssd lying around and can grab some ram.

>>55848680
I want to fall for the thinkpad meme.
I'm looking at the t420 and but there's also a cheap x220t.
What do?
I'm going to use it for uni stuff, typing papers, reading, watching videos, office and I also want to connect it to my 1080p asus monitor.
Will the sandy bridge processors be powerful enough for my needs?
Also which thinkpad, t420 or x220t.

>>55855859
Ask if it has a BIOS password

>>55848792

Windows 10 on a T420 is not as powerful as a T420 on Windows 7. You have more granular control over the system using Windows 7.

And by extension, Lenovo does not officially support Windows 10 on the T420.

>>55856004
>Will the sandy bridge processors be powerful enough for my needs?
Of course.

>t420 or x220t
Depends of your needs really. I'd pick the t420 because of three drives and upgradeable cpu but the screen has shit viewing angles.

>>55856109
my only concern about the x220 is the size, I've always had a desktop, so I don't really know how comfortable it will be.
On the other hand it has an ips panel, I cannot go back to tn panels anymore.

Whichever I get it will be used mostly at home conected to a monitor and for storage I have a home server.
So I don't really know what to get.

>>55856208
>I cannot go back to tn panels
You answered yourself then.

Also get a docking station and it'll be the best of both worlds using it as a desktop and as a portable machine.

>>55855083
Am I able to put in any graphics card if I do the discrete? If so is there a card you suggest?

>>55856258
No, the discrete gpu is soldered to the mobo.

You can make an eGPU setup with the ExpressCard slot though.

Sharing ThinkPadHotkey.exe.

This little program starts a service in windows that restores full ThinkVantage button functionality (and you can also use it for remapping all the other Fn+whatever shortcuts) under Windows 10.

Enjoy.

http://www28.zippyshare.com/v/kEcWN1z8/file.html

>>55856277
Forgot to say, put that shit in the Lenovo/HOTKEY folder.

has anyone put an ivy bridge cpu on a t420?

Looking to upgrade from my Latitude E6510. Should I go with a T530, W530, or a Latitude E6530?

Trying to stick to Ivy Bridge models due to native USB3 and a functional iGPU.

Which models have nice screens?

>>55855509
67c is perfectly fine.
80c under low load is when you need to be nervous.
>>55855859
ask to make sure nothing is wrong with it.
if there's nothing seriously wrong with it then 100% do it.
if it's bios locked, missing everything and has water damage then obviously don't do it.

>>55856277
What's that key supposed to do?

I'm running W7 and it doesn't do anything.

>>55856513
On the W530 there were two FHD screens available, I happened to get the 'bad' one and it had a blue hue and somewhat visible vertical lines.
I did use a colormuki spyder elite or whatever i have to fix the blue hue issue but the lines stayed there.

Fucking thing had like 5 hours of battery life with a quadcore processor, it was pretty bitchin. Paid $250, sold it for $500.

>>55856392
I have one lying around (i5 3210m) might try putting it into my t420.
I haven't done the fancy bios mod to it though.

>>55848680
does the w52 use the same battery as the t420?

soon i'm going to be buying an x1 carbon 1st gen. are there any downsides to this thinkpad other than no ethernet port?

>>55856635
It's designed to do what you want.

What are the exact reasons to get the t420 instead of the t430.?

Thinking about getting w520 with 16gb ram for $225. It's a little worn though and it's got ugly ass stickers on it, so I can probably haggle him down.

should I cop?

>>55856968
if you want the power then 100% do it.
just double check that there isn't anything else wrong with it.

>>55856825
memes

bought my first thinkpad--a T430

holy shit, installing linux was so ridiculously easy on this thing.

>>55856825
price, and if you don't like the keyboard

Hey guys, trying to install Linux onto my laptop and when it's connecting to network to dl the OS I am getting an error message saying "DHCP configuration failed"

Anyone know how to fix this?

If I select no auto configuration via DHCP, it prompts me for my ip address with network prefix - how do I find this?

>>55854616
they also got really dirty and hardened :(

>>55857545
are you hard wired in?
make sure you are.
at the very worst your computer should be using the 192.168.1.0 network so just enter 192.168.1.45 for ip, 255.255.255.0 for subnet, and 192.168.1.1 for default gateway/router IP
if you have ATT then 192.168.1.254 for default gateway.

>>55856250
Can vouch for docks. It's the only way to live with the x-series on an everyday basis. For mobile use, memeresolution is fine but God help you if it's your one and only display.

>>55857597
Nah, I'm doing it over WiFi

it asked for
Ip address with network prefix
gateway ip address
Name server ip address
Search domains

Wtf is all this shit? I hate Linux I can't handle this

I just put my ip from Google with /24 for ip with network prefix
I put 192.168.1.1 for the next two

I am guessing search domain will be something like download.opensuse.org?

>>55857806
you should be able to just ignore search domains
and you don't use your public IP, you have to use your internal one

A friend is offering to sell me an 11e for $120. It has the celeron with 4 cores, 4 threads. Is it worth it? do these models hold up well?

>>55857542
Any other issues besides the shot keyboard?

>>55857905
nah not really
it's pretty much identical to the t420, just far better cpu/gpu and USB 3.0 that's built in which is amazing.
Same shitty screen as the t420 though sadly.

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>>55856665
It is time.

>>55858104
madman

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>>55849652

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>>55858104
stress test with the stock thermal paste
this t420 only has the igpu so this should be a pretty good upgrade if it works

So I'm talking to a dude right now selling a w530 for 700$. Is it worth it if I'm broke?

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>>55848680
Muh X220t. Put an SSD in it a week ago, Purrs like a kitten

>>55858216
How much should I offer also?

>>55858237
offer $400
$500 max

>>55858248
sent 500 by accident at first

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What is the best looking screen on a T530?

Should the top bezel on the X220 be flexing in the middle?

>>55858414
I'm going to guess no, but post a pic. I'm on my x220 now and I don't notice any flex that would worry me

>>55858471
>post a pic
Nothing to post. Not so much flex, but movement when moved back and forth in the middle, but solid on the sides. Little bit of space at the top of the screen when bent back. enough to slide a couple fingernails in.

>>55858574
Not him but my T420 had that since i bought it.

Can you EGPU a T440? What about a T450?

>>55852577
how long does the battery life last on that?

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>>55858214
rip
the fan spins for a second or two then it just stops and sits here
any tips? or is it just because I don't have a custom bios?

>>55858858
I took the ram out and I got it to triple beep at me
I'll try with just 1 stick of ram

>>55858858
>>55858956
nope
you do have to mod the bios or something to make it work
I'll be putting the old i5 2520m back in.

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>>55858975
well that was a fun test
at least I finally got around to replacing the thermal paste on my t420

>>55848792
Install Ubuntu or Mint.

>>55859272
To what extent is Mint dependent on Ubuntu?
I mean, if Ubuntu died tomorrow, how would Mint continue?

>>55859297
yeah pretty much
there is a LOT that goes into ubuntu.
So if Ubuntu dies tomorrow then linux mint will die shortly later.

>>55856208
What's so bad about the T420's TN? Curious because I'm considering getting one for basically all the same reasons.

>>55859448
washed out colors and crap viewing angles

>>55859210
thank you for your MAC address and serial number :^)

>>55859448
it has terrible viewing angles
my 2012 macbook pro (non retina) looks twice as good looking at any sort of an angle that isn't 100% straight on
and even when you are looking straight at it it isn't that great.

>>55857931
I don't understand. Are you saying that the 430 comes with a better cpu/gpu standard or that it merely has a higher ceiling and is better capable of running those?

>>55859448
>bad viewing angles
>poor color gamut
>excessively high color temperature (so all looks blueish)

only the last one can be fixed, with a good hardware calibrator

>>55859519
Even looking dead-on it still looks like dogshit?
wew
The only way of rectifying that is by getting a new LCD and extending the cable to connect, right?

>>55859504
have fun
>>55859522
standard
ivy bridge is a LOT nicer than sandy bridge was, especially for power efficiency, and the integrated graphics is light years better, especially when in lower power modes.

>>55859587
you just need a new screen from some alienware 14" laptop
and if you have a 1366x768 screen you also need a hd + cable

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>>55859210
at least temps are better

How hard is it to get a IPS panel installed in a T420?

Is it worth doing an IPS swap for an x220
I honestly don't find the TN too bad.
Is it only the T420's that is really bad?

>>55860239
not anymore
someone was selling a 1440p IPS display + the adapter or something like that.
but they stopped making the adapter or something

>>55855321
What would you suggest?
I've been distro-hopping on a weekly basis since I got my T420.

interested in re-entering the thinkmeme, I had a 430s in college and didn't like it, but last place I worked they gave me a T410 and I loved it. Is that computer still good enough as a daily mobile? My biggest thing is weight, size, and battery life. But at the same time I'm not sure if I'll need all that mobility once I get my GPD Win in October.

>>55860905
Debian you peasant

>>55860926
I'm on Debian right now lmao, I'm using mate though. What DE would you suggest?

>>55849378
My brother used to hackintosh and I knew he had a t420 that was fully operational, not sure which version but it looked like shit, so I assume it was new. Also, he had a different wireless card i.e. non-stock.

What's the difference between the x220T and x230T?

Is the increase in processor speed worth it?

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Alright boys i got myself a working x41 tablet for ten whole dollars a week ago, I've managed to get every driver I need going for windows 7.
But I'm not satisfied, she won't run 720p youtube videos.
Now I refuse to believe this is the Pentium 758s fault, no this is Windows.
I'm about to try linux mint cinnamon on it, failing that I will try lubuntu, failing that I will try DSL or puppy.
I will keep you /g/angsters updated

>>55861310
its not going to work under any OS

>>55860905
slackware bb

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>>55861337
I have to try, I chopped down the windows VFX and shes now running at 360p, I've heard of modded drivers that are about 50% better than the intel gma 915 drivers, I'm going to try them if lubuntu fails me.
I'm mostly hoping the community made gma 915 drivers for linux are better

>>55861271
usb 3.0 (which is huge)
slightly faster, and ever so slightly cooler cpu
MUCH faster integrated graphics (runs much better under clocked for power saving)

but it has the weird keyboard layout
and it only takes lenovo batteries.
>>55861310
>>55861397
dude there's no way to do it
even p4 desktops with integrated graphics struggle with 720p youtube.

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>>55861422
STOP DOUBTING MY DETERMINATION, DOUBTER

>>55856277
eyo nigga das on german n sheit

>>55861422
Also I've taken the battery off my x220 and chucked it in my x230 and had it work fine
In fact its in there right now

>>55861586
does it charge?
I think thats the only thing it can't do unless you have an official lenovo one.

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Guys what's the power draw of a 1.35V 1600Mhz SODIMM?
Has anyone tested idle power consumption with one vs two modules?

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I'm looking at chinkpads on ebay and lots of them have this shit on the lid from a asset tag being removed

is this some leftover glue or something I can get rid of or is it the top layer of the lid permanently damaged?

>>55861611
at the very worst 1 minute worse battery life
ram doesn't use shit for power
>>55861693
you can easily get it out with some water and some time

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>>55861594
Yeah its an official lenovo 6 cell, the lenovo battery/power utility doesnt detect the battery on the x230 but it charges and discharges normally

I gotta say the cpu in the x230 is amazing compared to the x220 im able to cut the max power state to 8% and itll still run youtube at 1080p smoothly
Basically that means I can get 6 hours of constant youtube out of this laptop in one charge
Fucking mental and worth the shit keyboard considering I only paid 200 usd for this
>>55861438
>>55861422
You fucking doubted me, im running cinnamon mint on a usb and its now running youtube at 360 smoothly and 480 choppily
IM GETTING THERE

>>55861763
>no ad blocker
come on old man, get with the times.

>>55848792
You're gonna want more then 4GB RAM, buddy

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>>55861781
Oh god i cant believe i didnt think of that, without the ad scripts i could squeeze that little bit more out of it
Ill try lubuntu with ublock origin next

>>55861763
software can only get you so far. It isnt magic anon.

>>55861832
Anon I'm gonna shift my goal posts, if i can get 480p out of this machine, ill settle victorious.
My theory is that if i install lubuntu to the hard disk ill get better response because the hdd will have better bus speed than the usb2 live disk will
Going to try it in an hour

>>55861848
I admire your effort. However, I think the bottleneck is the GPU's decoding capabilities. Not the storage bus speed

Does the T420 have USB 3.0?

>>55861987
No but you can add an ExpressCard with 2 usb 3.0 ports. It's not native though.

What's the cheapest best lightest thinkpad tablet?
I'll just use it for image viewing/drawing and a bit of Internet (nothing Web heavy).

Is that x41 good enough?

>>55861987
>>55862019
It has usb3.0, but only on the i7 version. The usb3.0 decoding is made with a dedicated controller.
Ivy bridge have the decoding integrated in the cpu.

>>55862039
I thought that was the x220 not the t420.

>>55862055
Both of them have exactly one USB3.0 port in the i7 version.

>>55855003
I have an E540, and I can comfirm the build quality is subpar compared to the classic models. I got broken hinges, a vertical line of dead pixels within just a year of use. Be it noted, I have never dropped my laptop. The keyboard and touchpad however feel excellent.

I'm on mobile now so when I get back I will maybe post some pics.

If I want to watch anime and movies in 720 and 1080p on my T420, would the i5 be able to handle that adequately or should I go for the i7?

>>55862336
i5 should be able to easily handle 1080p 10bit chinese cartoons. My i7 2620m can easily.

>>55862336
A word of warning, T420 has a screen that's unanimously called shit. I don't know how that's for watching cartoons/ movies though as I never had one. Maybe you should ask more about that from the people who'd know.
i5 should have no problem.

>>55862514
It'll be hooked up to a monitor. Shouldn't it be fine then?

I have a x201 and I want to replace my thermal paste. I have never replaced thermal paste on a laptop, so maybe someone can suggest me a video? Advices? Also what temps are you getting on your x201 on idle/load?

>>55862750
google x201 hmm

>>55862024
X61t.
With Middleton bios you get SATA II speeds, I still use mine from time to time.

X41 suffers from a weak processor, 1.8" PATA drives.

X60 idk. Just slower.

>>55861693
Goo gone or lighter fluid.
Also rubbing it works, natural oils from fingers get rid of it. Just don't finger your girl afterwards

>>55862759
I am. Just wanted to see what /g/ recommends.

>>55861310
Oh... Have you thought of a Broadcom crystal HD playback card?
X41 may be a bit too old for mini Pci-e, dunno if there was an express card on that machine, probably a Cf card lol

>>55860239
Non s models have problems, I don't think they were ever revised. Alibaba probably has them or Taobao but you'll run into the electrical interference problem. Doesn't bother everyone I have to note.

>>55858410
One that didn't came standard from Lenovo ":)

>>55858216
Paid $250, added 8 more GB of ram, sold it for $500.
Excellent condition, perfect battery, K1000m GPU, i7 quad core (not XM, probably 2md or 3rd lowest i7)
8570w sold for $270 and $320, but those had i5 and 4GB ram...
8760w sold for $600. :"P

>>55857894
Decent price unless it's beat to shit.
I like em, though it's more of a fat IdeaPad yoga.
Better than an X130e overall

>>55862761
Thank you. Anything I should look for in thinkpad competitors instead of the x61t?
Maybe one of those elitebook tablets?

>>55850645
I got one with 8GB RAM and 240GB SSD for $490 AUD

>>55862750
I've done it to several laptops and I'll suggest you a few things
1. Take pictures of each screw you take out as you take it out so you don't fuck up putting it back together
2. Be extremely careful as laptop cpus are bare die, any static and its gone
3. If you think its enough paste, its too much paste
4. Change your power settings so the max cpu state is 99%, that'll disable intel speedstep and somewhat improve temperatures

When i had a 201 my idles were 60 i think and if i played morrowind it went to about 90

>>55862928
Those seem like pretty high temps. My x201 idles at 46C. I have had this lappy for more than a year, so maybe it's about time to do this. As I have never replaced thermal grease on a laptop I'm a little lost, so still searching for decent videos.

>>55862928
What method do you recommend for a sandy bridge with a rectangular die? line, pea-sized drop or two/three pea-sized drops?

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Just finished doing up this X230
What do you guys think I should sell it for?
I've added 4gb Ram, put a kingdian 240gb SSD in the Msata slot, replaced the hdd with a 1tb WD blue, replaced the battery with a 6 cell genuine X220 battery.
The laptops in pretty sweet nick besides the fact that there's a little chunk missing from the top left and right corners of the screens enclosure and the vinyl on the top corners is a little worn

>>55862994
Grain of rice sized drop in the middle, I've had the sandy bridge x220 and a pea is far too much
>>55862959
It's been a while since I owned that x201 so my memories foggy, for all I know it could hav been much less

Does anybody here have experience getting ThinkPad stuff from electronic waste recycling centers or similar places?

>>55863114
I've bought old working optiplex 755's from recycling centres before, but I've never found a thinkpad

>>55862207
hmm. I may just go for a T420 or T420s, however the used ones I've seen have been lacking discrete graphics and are all 2nd gen processors. Would the 2nd gen processors set me back much?

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>>55861310
>>55861337
>>55861422
I'm posting from a non-tablet X40.
It plays 720p youtube vids very well, yet only with a few specific changes. I use puppy linux (which takes care of what was likely the hard drive as a transfer bottleneck). I can play them either in firefox, or downloaded via youtube-dl, they play fine in either vlc, mplayer or mpv.

But it's true as anons stated that using the standard hard drive with any hard-drive installed operating system, you will fail to play 720p properly due to choppiness.

A few other OS's that I've tested that work very well are slitaz, slax and antix.

is the X250/X260 worth getting or should I just get a Dell XPS 13 or something?

>>55861802
Using hosts based ad blocking is more CPU efficient as it doesn't require running a blocking script for each of your browser tabs. The requests for ads just fail.

https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

>>55861310
My recollection of using X40 was that 720p was playable from the HDD with a discrete player. Running flash video player was out of the question. I last used it in 2008 or so though.

You could build a youtube-dl script that downloads the content you want on highest playable resolution and launches a player.

>tfw got my X220T
>tfw it's comfy
I have some issues with Windows 10, but everything went fine.
Expecting to get money to put a SSD and change the thermal paste to this beauty.
>inb4 windows 10

okay guys, I just bought a x220
what battery should i use to maximize its performance

>>55863826
>Windows 10

why

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>>55863064
I'm the guy with the x201, is that much enough?

>>55863919
A Original Lenovo One.

>>55863934
Cause I can.

>>55863954
all right, your choice
enjoy getting assfucked by Micro$oft

>>55863718
Finally somebody as foolish as I, I welcome you with open arms anon. Ill try pupper and slax tomorrow
>>55863786
Ill try hosts blocking with lubuntu too, if i get 480p im pretty happy
>>55863919
>>55863949
Listen to this guy dont cheap out.
>>55863935
Yeah the paste on the die is a fraction more than I would put on but it should do you fine
>>55863954
Do you suck dicks because you can?

>>55863971
>muh botnet
kys

>>55863934
he wants to downgrade to 10, let him be

I feel bad for the thinkpad that has to run that piece of shit though.

>>55863975
yeah, i wasnt thinking about a cheap battery
do you think i could get +5h with a good battery?

>>55863772
They're still too expensive because theyre still being sold retail, once the businesses spit out literally thousands of them it'll be worth getting one
>>55864042
I have a x220 and a x230
>>55863039
this exact one, and i use a 6 cell original, one the x220 i got a max of about 6 hours of shit posting and net surfing on the x230 i reckon i could get 7 (efficiency improvements and all that)

...by the way I'd love some replies to that post

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Got the x220 a few months ago.. Upgraded RAM to 8GB & 250GB SSD (Samsung Evo)

Just upgraded to an IPS display.. Only thing left is a new nipple. This laptop has been probably my best purchase decision..

>>55864145
How did you go about getting an ips display? Whats the difference between the ips and normal displays and do ips displays come standard in some x220's or do you have to manually put them in?
Very interested in this

Now, I've been thinking about saving up and buying myself a ThinkPad for going to uni, all I'd need it for is basic word processing, some light web browsing, maybe reading epubs
However, while I was thinking about buying one, I wondered if anyone had tried PCSX2 on a T420? (It's what I'd be buying, looks like the best for a starter) It'd be pretty good to be able to emulate PS2 games on it, but I'm aware emulation takes a lot more power than the console, so would I be able to?

How does Windows 8.1 run on the x220?

found a new x260 with i7-6500u/8gb ddr4 ram/256gb ssd for 800 eurobux

I'm kinda tempted

>>55864628
>not running Linux to make the most out of the performance & ram
Why

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>>55864171
Got it delivered from Chinkland through AliExpress.
As for the benefits, better colors, brighter, and the screen doesn't get washed out at awkward angles

>>55864664
I'm not autistic enough to use Linux.

>>55864689
I'm considering replacing mine with an IPS display as well.
Does an IPS display draw more power?

I'm >>55863935
And I just completed everything. It runs cooler. At first charger did not work. I tried turning it on without the battery just with the charger and all is good now. Idles at 35~C. And of course somehow I ended up with two screws more than I had.

>>55864709
Yes I believe so. But with low brightness and tlp, this shouldn't be too big of a problem.

Was thinking about picking up an x220 or x230 but was wondering if I actually needed an i5? I have an old core2duo with an HDD and 4gb of ram. Was thinking about slapping on an SSD, adding another 4 gigs of ram and running a light linux distribution.

All I do is shitpost, browse the web, and program. Do I really need to spend a couple hundred more burgerbucks? I'd spend the money instead on a dell ultrasharp or something.

>>55864827
>a couple hunderd

What?
X220s are dirt cheap

>>55864849
Yea they are anon. But to add an SSD, a functioning battery, more RAM, and possibly an IPS puts an x220 in the $300-400 range.

>>55864664
Not the guy you were responding to but which Linux would you suggest for someone who's not very good with computers, but is open to learning. I'm buying a X220 or T420 pretty soon, fit it with 8gb total RAM and a SSD.
Going to use the computer mainly for just surfing the web and I'm also starting to learn programming (android apps and eventually games would be my goal). So I'd prefer if the OS would be compatible with common android programming tools, not sure how much of a problem that is between different OS's, I would imagine not very, but it's important for me, so I mentioned it.
Thanks.

>>55865131
Any flavor of Ubuntu is easy to get the hang of and works right out of the box. I'd suggest Xubuntu or Ubuntu.

>>55865131
As for the development tools, Linux (especially ubuntu) generally has everything you'd need. Whether it's just an IDE or Android Studio, you can find it. Most Devs work on Mac/Linux anyway so I wouldn't worry

>>55865309
>>55865374
Thanks lads, yeah I was pretty sure programming for android wouldn't be a problem on Linux, just wanted to make sure.

>>55865131
I just put xubuntu on my t420. I have an 8gb stick on the way but I'm even sure I need it. Xubuntu runs like a dream, only thing bogging it down is the HDD.

Are any of the current thinkpad laptops upgradable? I'm assuming the T series at least still allows you some measure of flexibility?

>>55859529
I thought that it could be replaced with an IPS Alienware display

How is driver support for win10 on the 420s? Computers at work have updated to it so I need a platform that will give the same instrumentation control headaches (as opposed to internal ones) for fiddling with some of our code while commuting or at home and. I had made the mistake of buying a U410 years ago and that's been a joke in handling win10 (had it relegated to the windows headache machine).

>>55863193
It depends on your usage.

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How can I get Gentoo to recognize my X200 tablet buttons directly below the screen? I do xbindkeys -k to see if they work but they don't do anything.

>>55863193
AFAIK the discrete graphics isn't too great on T420.

You could try a T430. The iGPU gets 50-80% better performance than on T420 and you get a 3rd generation core CPU.

I'm going to buy an used business laptop for around 400-500€. I'm going to use it for web browsing, youtube and some coding. Which model should I get? Doesn't matter which brand.

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is pic related worth it for $100 bucks?

its a t420 with an i7, 4GB ram and 160GB HDD.

says it has an excellent battery and charger.

the case looks pretty beat up though.

should i talk him down and just replace the case and add as SSD?

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>>55866277
another pic

>>55865888
you can buy it for even less money, and will get same performance
t420 and x220 come to mind

how are these specs for a t410 about £120

CPU: Intel Core i5-M520
SYSTEM MEMORY: 4GB
HARD DRIVE: 320GB
OPTICAL DRIVE: NO
GRAPHICS: Intergrated
SCREEN : 14.1"but it doesnt fucking tell me the resolution

how is this for a t410 about £120

CPU: Intel Core i5-M520
SYSTEM MEMORY: 4GB
HARD DRIVE: 320GB
GRAPHICS: Intergrated
SCREEN : 14.1" but it doesnt tell me the fucking resolution

thanks and god bless

>>55866595
>>55866617
SHIT i didnt mean to post that twice xd

>>55866626
xd

>>55866626
>xd

Go back to whatever shithole you came from, faggot.

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Where do you fellas get your chargers for a reasonable price?
eChink sold me a charger advertising it as "Genuine OEM" which worked fine for a few weeks, followed by it making explosive sparking noises and not charging the unit at all now. I don't want to trust eBay sellers, unless you guys know a reputable seller/elsewhere other than ebay.

I'm so excited to join the think pad master race next week, I've had lenovo laptops since forever but I'm finally ditching the half-assed "gaming" capabilities of the Idea pads now that I have a gaming desktop and moving on to a shiny new t560

>>55866701
Ebay, search for genuine used chargers.

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>>55855859
>tfw he hasn't replied

>>55866701
got mine along with the laptop, apart from needing to replace the wall socket -> charger cable once, still works a-okay after 6 years.

>>55866630
>>55866665
xddddd

Is there a decent 11-13'' thinkpad with broadwell or skylake?

>>55867470
X250, X260, X1 Carbon (3/4gen)

Not sure if they are actually any good since I'm refurbishedfag but you can check if they seem good to you.

>>55867647
Thanks mate.
Any tablet pcs?

>>55865131
and if you care about battery life stay n W7

Who T42 here?

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>RARE!! Thinkpad Computer comes /w Windows 10 free $500 obo NO LOWBALLS (touchpad not working no battery)

>>55867990
100% /g/entooman ad

>>55867714
X1 has a yoga verson.

Are those 2nd hard drive caddy things model specific? I have a t530 and w520 and it'd be easier to buy two of the same.

>>55866838
No bios password, all working perfectly according to the seller. Great price if true so I'm going for it.

I'm bloody excited.

>>55868111
I don;t like that it folds with keyboard outward, making it vulnerable. It also generally looks flimsy.

Is £200 for a refurbished T420 a good price?

i5, 4gb RAM, 320GB HDD

>>55868205
That's decent, just above average ~£180.

>>55864827
>>55864885
An ssd in A c2d isnt really worth it, they only have sata 2, get an x220, theyre seriously good stuff
>>55864885
Don't need to add more ram, 4gb does it, don't need an ips the default looks fine
>>55865607
Requires you to buy a special connector i think
>>55865608
T420's have good driver support on every os, its part of their popularity
>>55865701
I want to know this too, for my x41

Alright guys, what's the fastest RAM I can put in my T420? 1333 Mhz?

There's an ebay seller tossing out X200's for ~$60 each. Would it be a good idea to get one of these? I'm mostly wanting to install a linux distro and use it as a secondary/portable computer.

>>55868659
yes. pretty sure 1600 RAM will just downclock on you. better off buying 1333Mhz Ram with better timings

>>55868807
I thought so. Cheers mate. Max amount is 16gb correct?

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why is the T420 recommended when the T430 performs better and supports the classic keyboard?

Is the t520 decent?

Just ordered my first thinkpad, a T430
keep me hype

>>55869094
Doesn't the classic keyboard have some buttons that don't work if used with a T430?

Also are the T430's processors really that much better than the T420's?

>>55869094
Does this apply to the X220 and X230?

>>55869094
Because smoke weed every day. That's why it's recommended.

>>55869094
>>55870015
T420 and X220 are recommended only because of the better default keyboard layout. If you don't care about the layout you should just get T430/X230.

There are some good reasons to consider T430/X230 though. Maybe you want 50-80% better iGPU performance or the lower power requirement of Ivy Bridge platform. You can even get a xx20 keyboard if you want but you'll have to reflash the EC.

What's /tpg/'s thoughts on the newer thinkpads? Like the t440-60. I got the money to get one but want some thoughts if I should get one.

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>that bad feel when you don't have a justification to get a Dell Latitude

There's a E6330 and E6230 out of these E6430/20/10 latitudes.

what kind of thinkpad should i get that has decent everything, no noisy fan, and that doesnt get warm a lot

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>>55870997
I like how Lenovo reintroduced IPS panels, though some TP enthusiast think some panels are subpar of the IBM ones (Dell & HP never discontinued their beautiful IPS panels).

I had two T440p models, it's a mixed bag for me, like the battery life, dislike he serviceability. Removing the keyboard is harder, especially if the keyboard is grimey (unlike having screws from the bottom, the screws are hidden by the 'island' keys now, the small cover needs to be slid out and unscrewed)

I tried one to game on and it sucked, but I did some video editing and it was decent for the Intel HD4600 (in comparison from gaming or rendering vids on my W700ds)

Build wise they are OK. Not hella robust but new design isn't that shit

>>55867898
My T42p has gotten no love, UXGA T43p has been POW for a year.
14" T40p is still headless.

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Is that an extended battery or a dock?

>>55863114
Please don't low ball me if you're shopping in San Diego.

>>55862913
Hmmm, tough I think the Elitebook tablets have 1.8" SATA drives.
I forgot which one I had... 2730p? Anywho I remember it was a decent tablet, it was different than the X61t but it was slimmer and felt kinda good despite not being too boxy.

I was going to review a Toshiba tablet today but I ended up having dinner plans.

>>55871709
hello newfriend, once you put your question in to your prefered internet search engine the answer that should pop up is that dock is way bigger, also dock has ports

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I bought a used X220 a while ago, and I gave it to a nephew so I'm looking for an upgrade.

Will the windows come installed on the SSD?
Are there anything else I should do with this purchase?

>>55871868
is that 2 quadros?
and yeah windows should be installed on the ssd, but I'd recommend upgrading it to win 10 pro.
It's well worth the money.

>>55871932
Nah, that's just one quadro. Not sure why it's showing up like that.

I'll get the win10 pro. Thanks for the advice!

>>55871494
I prefer the more angular Dell Latitudes.

>>>/wsg/1220316

Anyone know how to fix this?
Or should I just upgrade to an x230?

>>55872260
reseat fan connector?

>>55848680
>turn on t420 get fan error
>Oh no fan died fml
>try to open it up keyboard ribbon cable tears
>order a new one,and use compress air on fan.
>new keyboard comes in still fan error.
>decide to take out the heat sink and disconnect fan throw more air in and clean it.

>thinkpad will no longer turn on
>panic
>decide to take of cmos
>only thing that turns on is the power led
>it just blinks


how fuck'd am i?

>>55872294
honestly the last time i opened this up i lost like 2 screws and cracked some plastic shit i shouldn't have cracked.

I also have some code on a samsung 840 pro I want to work on on the way to work.

>>55872440
did you change the thermal paste?
or did you tighten it too hard/not evenly and cracked the die?

Any good docks that'll work with a T460?

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>>55871709
Extended battery.
Lenovo made some that had an angle, they are pretty sweet to hold onto.

>>55872177
E6x30's have grew on me, the ugly ass orange keyboard bezel can be replaced by the dark grey one on later units.

>>55869399
The tradeoff on the T520 compared to the T420 is the size, but you can get non-shit displays.
Plus W520's seem to get pretty pricey, imo the tradeoff for the graphics isn't worth it.

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Has anyone bought a used slice?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-19-Slice-Battery-for-ThinkPad-X220-t-X220s-X230-t-42T4967-65Wh-/142019824336?hash=item21110a8ad0:g:T4oAAOSwanRXhOca#viTabs_0

I can either get an 89% capacity genuine Lenovo 6cell (I have a brand new 6 cell to add to it) or I can gamble on buying a used slice and use it with my new 6 cell. What should I do?

I need /g/ to make all decisions for me

if the design is ruined from the **30 series and up, what will we do when the T420/X220/T520 supplies run out?

Should we start looking into laptops besides thinkpads?

>>55873558
Acceptable autism threshold will lower as necessary.
Eventually, when everyone else is using tablets, it'll be acceptable to us any sort of laptop.
I hope this general, board, and website will be long dead by then.

>>55873558
Get motherboard replacements. I bet sandy bridges will still chug through layers and layers of javascript for a good amount of time.

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>>55852989
Absolutely disgusting, at least its a cheap laptop
>mfw she would have gone through 3 macbooks by now with that kind of behaviour

>>55873629
I'm not so autistic about the thinkpad brand, but what I want in a laptop is durability, design, and features.
The newer models are shittier looking, have a poorer keyboard, and no optical drive.
I'm not trying to troll or anything, I'm genuinely concerned. You can't use the same thing forever, thinkpad or not. Eventually we will run out of replacement parts - then what?

I just hope the future for laptops and portables isn't too shitty or tablet oriented.

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Fell for the meme /g/.
Just picked up an x220 for something to tote around school and absolutely loving it.
Got an SSD in the mail for it.
Is it possible to increase the resolution with a screen replacement?

New thread:
>>55873760

>>55873735
get a docking station for the full memexperience

>>55872440


>>55872634
I will change the paste i guess.
how can anyone crack the lid man i did not use a drill to screw it u