/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

wait, which one did he click then?

or did he decide not to?

pls explain

Just started getting more familiar with the terminal. what are some fun or useful scripts I can write?

So far I've just written something called 'tree_time' which makes a picture of a tree from my back garden appear on the screen. Fun but not exactly useful.

>>55838082
Check the shell pasta here:
https://ghostbin.com/paste/9pe75/raw

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Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents)
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames (torrents)
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

We need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta
http://pastebin.com/7Xzi8e2H

>>55838033
Those two options are not mutually exclusive. Being restricted by closed source licenses is inconvenient.

>>55838125
Amen.

>>55838125
Not using useful software due to its license is more inconvenient

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>>55838082
>protip: zoom in

>>55838033
Are there girls autistic enough to install and use gentoo as their daily distro on a libre thinkpad with libreboot flashed on it?

>>55838096
404
0
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>>55838173

>>55838173
No and even if there was you'd want to steer clear.

>>55838033
It's not freedom. It's free. As in free beer. Not freedom.
>Beer is good though

>>55838161
aalib? how?

>>55838184
lolwut, true story, anyone got a backup of the pasta?

>>55838201
>even if there was you'd want to steer clear.
Why? Dating a tomoko like girl can't be that bad. Might even be kinky.

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>>55838173

>>55838173
some trannies, a very few real grills.

there was that tor dev that escaped to deutschland, still haven't seen her talk i downloaded.

>>55838184
>>55838228
erase the "raw" part, here https://ghostbin.com/paste/9pe75

>>55838249
Thanks!

>>55838118
>On Linux you'll get better performances than Windows once devs port the games.

Or not, who knows?

>Your system is malware free.

Most Windows Systems are malware-free as well, what's your point?

>Your system won't crash as much as Windows do.

Windows runs pretty stable

>By not buying Windows you can use the money to buy games instead.

Or get it for free (as in free beer). Just like all those games you don't buy.


Your Pastebin is shit, and the worst part is the section dedicated to run games on Windows instead of Linux.

>>55838221
Full explanation:
http://larc.unt.edu/ian/art/ascii/shader/

>>55838267
>most windows systems are malware free
Not if they have Windows on them

>>55838267
Found the pajeet.

>>55838033
>the daily dilemma
>>55838267
lq bait

>>55838294
Windows is shit, but the pajeet meme is 9gag tier, grow up.

>>55838267
>Most Windows Systems are malware-free as well, what's your point?
>Most
Pajeets can only hope

>>55838267
>>Most Windows Systems are malware-free as well
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

>>55838317
>some anon blew my cover, waaaa!

>>55838043
Ok got it connected to my router, thanks. Do I have to manually reconnect after a reboot, or is there a way I can automate it with a cron job or something?

So, for some reason, my Xubuntu installation won't run certain shell scripts. All the stuff on stack overflow is just
>"ADD A CRUNCHBANG TO IT RETARD"
But, there's already a crunchbang. I dunno, I even did chmod 775 on one of them and it doesn't work, I set it so that I could run it as an executable program, didn't work, I'm honestly rather lost.

>>55838562
Post the sricpts you are having trouble with.

>>55838562
>write script.sh
>"ADD A CRUNCHBAND TO IT RETARD"
>chmod +x script.sh
>./script.sh

>>55838562
Post one of your scripts.

>>55838562
On top of every shell script, define the shell you want to run it in. Mostly you want bash.

#!/usr/bin/env bash

If you're programming POSIX and want to use a faster shell for your script, use plain sh.

#!/bin/sh

Some bashisms aren't supported here.

>>55838590
>>55838601
I'm a retard at coding, and they're most certainly not my scripts.

#!/bin/bash

#
# XMage test/demo application startup scripts for GNU/Linux
#

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/lib
CP=lib/xmage.jar:lib/huf.jar:lib/jogl.jar:lib/jgl/bin:lib/jzlib/bin:bin

java -Djava.library.path=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH -cp $CP $@

>>55838679
No idea what you're doing here, but always quote your variables ($CP should be "$CP" as example, x=y should be x="y")

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I've been dual-booting for a while and it kinda sucks. I like Linux and am thinking of deleting Windows, but I'm quite scared. I find I often have little inconveniences in Linux (I've used Arch and Ubuntu) that just piss me off and push me back to using Windows. For example, in my current installation of Ubuntu 16.04, if I close my laptop, when I open it again and log in, there's no mouse cursor!

Windows has its share of annoyances too, such as randomly disabling my NIC card, which never happens on linux.

I guess I'm pretty torn on which to keep; I don't really want to keep both anymore, but I'm scared to give Windows the boot since I won't be able to get it back. My recovery partition does not work, and I can't back it up since it's seriously like 50 gigs. What do you guys think I should do?

>>55838679
Please tell me you're using bash as your shell

>>55838737
>there's no mouse cursor!
That's a known bug. Try running this in the terminal and check if it helps.

$ gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false

>>55838790
It doesn't matter. Even if he's using zsh, the shebang tells bash to run it.

>>55838737
So, what you'd do if Windows fucks itself?
If you have no way to recover your Windows you're treating on very thin ice already.

>>55838790
I am. ps -p $$ says so, at least.

>>55838270
thank you kind anon

>>55838844
try bash name_of_script

>>55838562
>>55838590
>>55838592
>>55838601
>>55838665
>>55838679
>>55838736
>>55838790
>>55838830
>>55838844
>>55838872

Jesus christ what are you guys doing? How has nobody asked yet:

What output/error(s) do you receive when you try to run the script?

this

>>55838872
Tried it. Got same error I received when I wrote in ./name_of_script

>>55838899
Kek, I was just about to type in the output error and then you posted this.

Output error is:
"./run_xmage.sh: 9: ./run_xmage.sh: java: not found"

Which, I think, means there's something wrong with the script itself, which blows.

God, I'm such a scrub.

>>55838812
It didn't help. I'm using Xubuntu btw. Although I'm not too concerned with this because if I do decide to stop dualbooting I don't think I'd stick with ubuntu.

>>55838934
>java: not found
You need to install java you dingus!

>>55838934
um, do you have java installed?

>>55838936
Well, then there's
CTRL+ALT+F1
and then
CTRL+ALT+F7

Source: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1573454

/fglt/ team, let's be mature and constructive

Instead of memes in OP post a useful wiki page or infographics

Share your projects and what problems you encountered and how to solve them

/fglt/ is not only a Q&A thread. Share your projects and help newfriends

>>55838949
>>55838951
God, I'm such a fucking dad when it comes to software.

>>55838709
So NVIDIA is fine? I don't think I want to dick around with LTS.

I should stay away from AUR.

>>55838899
I expected someone saying that a script doesn't run meaning that the script doesn't run, and not that it runs but throws an error.
Sadly, my expectations were betrayed

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>>55838971
as you wish

>>55838971
I for one like the memes, they are an expression of modern art.

>>55838161
I moused over it and was automatically logged out... wtf.

>>55838971
I'm currently working on a script that generates the most dominant colors of a wallpaper and generates a Xresources colorscheme. Most scripts use python, mine will just use imagemagick.

Problems: Still didn't implement support for gtk themes, not speaking of KDE, maybe I should just drop it and stick to X.

>>55839024
>>>/reddit/

>>55839024
1 KDevelop and atom is better than sublime text
2. NFS backup is pertty good and so is syncthing

Hey /g/ents I'm running Xubuntu 16.04 and trying to install Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines via PlayOnLinux using Wine 1.7.8 following a guide. Everything goes smooth until I get to the 85% install point and I get "Runtime Error (at 69 445)". Can someone help me please? Trying looking online but no one seems to have this issue.

>>55839065
In case anyone wants to create something simliar himself, here's the relevant function to get the colors.

gen() { 
    convert "$1" -define histogram:unique-colors=true -colors ${2:-16} -format %c histogram:info:- | sed 's/.*#/#/'
}

$ gen pape.png

>>55839146
actually
$ gen pape.png <NUM COLORS>

>>55839138
Never mind. Installation went through just fine. Weird. Have a good day, lads.

>>55839024
>Although zim now exists for over 3 years there is no "1.0" version yet.
What's up with this?

>>55839138
Check WineHQ for your game. Usually there are lots of workarounds.
>>55839214
Save it for future trouble.

>>55839138
I suggest you use virtualization for modern gaming.

1. Set up PCIe Pass through in your desktop
2. You don't do heavy tasks in your laptop anyway

>>55839065
Good luck anon, I'm clueless here

>>55839214
nvm fixed it, delete thread now :^ )

>>55839245
[closed]

>>55839241
>Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines
>modern gaming

>>55838198
What is this qt 3.14s name again?

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>>55839250
>>55839245
>>55839214
To the guy who's reading this 10 years later, browsing the archives: Pic related.

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>>55839274
No idea.

>>55839231
WineHQ only had the original release of the game. Grabbed the GOG re-release. Didn't know if the old threads were still relevant.

>>55839329
Every thread is archived by multiple services (even deleted posts).

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> you don't learn linux you just learn how to interact with a computer more intimately
> linux is like making love, only with your computer.
> only linux will let you do that thing that no other girl will let you do.
> hell she gets off on it.
> windows is like a snarky bitch who wants to lock you and your freedom away after you pay exorbitant prices for the wedding and courting process,
> and mac is nothing but a cheap thrill, something you use to get away from the world and return to the days of a carefree childhood.
> linux is an open, lusty and trusting nympho, who will allow you to manipulate her internals like no woman will. her love is free, growing and eternal.
> you will never want to go back to another OS after using linux. it would be like going from having crazy sex 24/7 to going back to the snarky bitch or the retard.
> you will need linux eventually.
>
> Anonymous 09/04/15 4chan /g/ technology (Fri)

>>55839340
Guess he means WineHQ.

>>55838198
I think I've seen this person post their laptop in a thread on /g/

What command can I use to DoS someone that doesn't require SU?

>>55838212
why do they say free as in free beer? i don't get it, it makes it sound like there is strings attached

>>55839363
This made me sad at my incompetence to maintain a stable relationship with another person.

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>>55839474
He didn't get the joke.

>>55838068
well, linus "chose" convenience i think. there are a lot of blobs in linux by default.

>>55839474
Also WHERE THE HELL CAN I GET ALL THIS FREE BEER?!?

Alright, I've got arch up and running on a dual boot. Whee. (no really, I love this stuff.)

Anyway...it's pretty stock xorg/xfce on nvidia drivers. What's my best option for eliminating tearing?

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>>55839545
Was is das, Maßkrüge für Ameisen?

>>55839619
WAS ERLAUBEN STRUNZ

>>55839613
you can enable vsync in the settings somewhere. if that doesn't work, try compton

>>55839474
yeah it's not supposed to be confused with the "No such thing as a free lunch" idiom. Maybe thats why he said beer instead of lunch.
Or maybe there are a few strings attached.
Someone (original developers) had to pay for it with time and sweat.

Anyone here uses f.lux? Is it worth? Are there any alternatives?

>>55839613

nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="HDMI-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DVI-D-0: nvidia-auto-select +1920+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"

Adapt to your screens

>>55839662
I don't want sweat in my beer, faggot.

>>55838983
nvidia works flawlessly, even on old hardware

There is nothing wrong with aur

>>55839674
>f.lux
nonfree pig disgusting
>alternatives?
redshift

absolute madman use sct: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/sct-set-color-temperature

>>55839644
Weird, why doesn't the xfwm compositor vsync work? I tried it I mean, and it didn't.

so how do I tell xfwm to use compton?

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>>55839024

>>55839719
!

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I bought a new computer that has a AMD Quad-Core A10-8700P.

It came with Windows 10 but i'm gonna put linux on it.

is it any good?

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>>55839719
Her nail is uneven.

>>55839747
dumb frogposter

>>55839705
could be driver dependent.
for compton, just disable the xfce compositor and then run compton. enable vsync and try the different backends. i don't know what works for nvidia cards.

but try that other anons way first.

>>55839697
>redshift
Shit's comfy. Any recommended config?

>>55839688
I did that but I already have compton running smooth, is it something I might need to do again at some point or will it stick?

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>>55839747
no you should stick with microshibe

>>55839839
There's nothing that's needed, just set the temps you like and set it to be gradual.

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much compiz

>>55838068
>software is like sex, it's better when it's free

If I switch between nux for browsing/vids/music and Windows for games, is it still useful to have a Linux distribution or does using Windows compromise my security or whatever?
Not sure if clear, I'm french and durnk

>>55839979
>so beatiful
You mean, such betuful

Which commands do I use for a keyboard shortcut that will raise or lower my volume?

>>55840204
xbindkeys

set your keybind
set the command

what are some good command line music players? My only use case would be to create a playlist out of all files in a specified folder (and recursively all folders inside) and play them.
I'm really stingy with my ram so visualization isn't necessary.

Hm, is there a way for xfce panel items to hook to the right edge instead of just all going to the left edge?

>>55840204
Some hints to control the master volume:

For pulse only:
pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ -- +5%

For pulse via alsa:
amixer -D pulse set Master 5%+

For alsa:
amixer set Master 5%+

>>55840227
>ram
>stingy
So you bought ram for the pupose of not using it?
linuxatemyram.com

also
mpd+ncmpc

>>55840223
I know that much

>>55840243
This is it, thanks

>>55840231
sorry, I'm a piece of shit, I asked before I googled.

>>55840263
Then you should know how to do it
man alsamixer
man pulseaudio

>>55840263
If you're using pulse, prefer the pulse only variant since here you can go above 100% volume.

>>55840076
pls answer I need to know if the effort of switching/rebooting/learning is worth it or if it's just useless.

>>55840317
You waited 30 minutes, now i will go out of my way to not answer you

>>55840317
see >>55838365

>>55840334
Your epenis must be huge.

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>>55840351
Yours must be so tiny, that you assume the world owes you everything.

Read
Or
Do it

You decide

Reposting from last thread

How do I deal with fullscreen applications that don't respect my alt+tab

>>55840336

>>55838365

Ok so basically you're saying using Windows any way or the other means I'm "fucked"?
Then tell me if I'm wrong so I won't keep wasting time : if I'm using Win and Nux, and really need Win, I may as well uninstall Nux right?

>>55840020
I'm not a neckbeard, I don't have to pay for sex :^)

>>55840449
Depends
Why are you using linux in the first place?

I am setting Deluge up on my netbook and I'm trying to update rc.d to make deluge-daemon start after booting and I'm getting an error:

update-rc.d: error: initscript does not exist: /etc/init.d/deluge-daemon

. I used the tutorial from http://www.howtogeek.com/142044/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-always-on-bittorrent-box/ under the "Configuring Deluge to Run on Startup" section near the bottom. Any ideas?

>>55840477
Security/privacy.
Also I like to customize the visual environment but it's secondary.
What's keeping me using Win is recent games like Overwatch.

>>55840449
>really need Win
why?

>>55840541
>What's keeping me using Win is recent games like Overwatch.

>>55840400
Maybe depends on your DE/WM. Every program respects my ALT+TAB events.

>>55840557
Stop thinking in black and white. If you need to keep Windows for gaymen, dualboot, but do your regular work on GNU/Linux for common sense' sake.

>>55840576
Yeah I guess it's better than nothing.

>>55840620
If you have a bordom weekend, check the web for GPU passthrough, maybe you can make it up, then you don't even need to dualboot.

Is it more secure to have a HD especially for gaming SSD with windows on it or is dual booting the same?

BSD is better

>>55838955
Thank you. I'm going to try this. Happens on Lububuntu.

>>55840731
ENJOY YOUR BROWSER OS, SENPAI

>>55840731
BSD has some benefits (lightweight code), but the licenses make the whole thing horrible.

>>55840832
>benefits
>lightweight
in english: less failsaves

>>55840832
>>55840731
BSD has good security. They have a good trick. Nothing actually works in BSD, reduces the attack surface

>>55840731
Spotted the mactard

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>>55840558
I tried with i3 (alt+number, to change workspaces, in this case), openbox and xfce

Also I'll explain the problem in greater detail
What doesn't work, specifically, is Chocolate Doom and D1X Rebirth
Chocolate Doom's resolution is not very configurable
To set it at a 16:9 resolution I have to put it in fullscreen, and it will ignore keyboard shortcuts
If I make it windowed and use i3's alt+f to make it pseudo-fullscreen, it will look like pic related
D1X Rebirth is a much smaller problem. I can set my resolution and pseudo-fullscreen just fine, but when I start the game and it captures the mouse pointer, I can't use any of my shortcuts anymore. I can pause the game and then use my shortcuts, but for example, if the game hangs, I can't use my xkill shortcut

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>>55840859

>>55840886
I'm using zoom, works here, but you could try switching to a tty and then back to your display, if you're lucky the game doesnt grap you keys.

>>55839892
I would make it runnable anywhere for convenience. If there seems to be tearing around, I just type the script's name and everything is ok later.

What do you use for compton? There is a very descriptive config file when searching for xfce on google. I used to have it, but I switched things around to this:

compton -cCzG -t-3 -l-5 -r4 --config /dev/null --backend xrender --unredir-if-possible

>>55840963
zdoom* grab* etc*

Speaking of compton, recently added to my configs:

# compton: transparency ++
"compton-trans -c +5%"
    Mod4 + t

# compton: transparency --
"compton-trans -c -5%"
    Mod4 + Shift + t

compton-trans usually comes with compton included, the config is for xbindkeys, mod4 = super key (manufractors accidently put the windows logo here), maybe someone has fun with it

Im using LXTerminal and when i press the Up and Down arrows it goes through the last used commands. How do I clean that history?

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>someone mentioned nvidia-settings and now I have to ask.
Is there a user-specific X config file?
I used nvidia-settings to generate the xorg.conf file with three monitors on one X screen as you can see.
>Everything is exactly how I want it
Now, everytime I reboot the third screen is blank.
I can fix it manually by launching the nvidia-settings tool again and rotating the monitor right, and then rotating it left again. WTF.
I don't want to do this anymore. I've been putting up with it for like a month.
And yes theyre all shitty $10 goodwill monitors.
Can anyone find my mistake?

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>>55841152
Someone tell me why I'm an idiot
>inb4 font bashing

>>55841192
I also tried adding this to .xinitrc:

nvidia-settings --load-config-only > /dev/null

but I don't think that means what I think it means.

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What is a PPA?
I want to download a PSP emulator, but am confused by the instructions.
>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ppsspp/stable
>sudo apt-get update
Isn't there something more that I should do to install the actual emulator?

>>55839688
I use this, but what of AMD? Does tearing fuck off with AMDGPU on xfce?

>>55841242
>Isn't there something more that I should do to install the actual emulator?
Compile it yourself. It's basically

git clone <ppsspp git link>
cd ppsspp/
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
make -j<number of threads>

It should produce the finished product.

Then add a little script like

cd /path/to/ppsspp/build/
./PPSSPPSDL

on the path that has your scripts to access it from anywhere.

>>55839363
True story.

I'm gonna be moving across the country soon. I won't have internet for a while and I was considering switching to Linux instead of Windows 10.
I wanna wait until I move though since I still have time to play games with friends.

What distro is best for learning more about Linux and general use?

>>55841368
Debian or Arch.

>>55841147

rm ~/.bash_history

>>55841368
Arch has you build your own system (except for pacstrap) but makes things rather straightforward and simple.
>keep it simple, stupid.
Also it has a friendly and rather large community with pretty good sized repositories.

Debian's documentation isn't end-user friendly (for the most part) but there is equal opportunity for configuration and learning.

I like setting up my system without a graphical installer so that I know almost all of the configuration already, by the time I get an X display running.

>>55841368
>Beginner mode:
Ubuntu (and/or any of its flavors, like Ubuntu GNOME or Lubuntu)

>Intermediate (or for enthusiastic beginners) mode:
Debian (once installed, you should probably upgrade it to Testing branch)

Ideally start with the first, and move to the latter. Or just start with the latter right away.

>>55841242
PPA is an additional apt-get repository
After adding it you install ppsspp like you would any program

sudo apt-get install ppsspp

>>55841390
>hacks a computer
>installs rootkit
>deletes ~/.bash_history
>They'llneverfindme.jpg
Not exactly erasing what you did (it's in the logs, somewhere, probably) but good enough for someone who openly browses /g/.

>>55841378
>>55841403
Thank you. I think I may dual boot the two if that's an option.

>>55841405
I'll start with the latter since I've already used Ubuntu before. I don't really like it.
Why upgrade to the testing build? Is it more secure or stable?

Any recommendations for file browser, or terminal?
Right now I'm using thunar file browser and the default xfce4 terminal, both of which came with my install.

>>55841454
>testing build
>more stable
lol no, you might as well be on arch at that point as far as stability goes.
I thought that was the whole point of Debian.

>>55841460
>terminal: xterm
>file browser: xterm

>>55841454
Debian Stable is mostly used for servers. It's rock solid stable, but the software tends to be pretty old, so sometimes it can be annoying if you demand certain features that you know a program has but that were not included in the Stable release

Doing a net install of Debian and then upgrading it to the Testing branch enables you to have a pretty stable system and also pretty up-to-date software

If you want to really kick in high gear and go bleeding edge, then upgrade it to Unstable (Sid). It's still very stable by Debian's standards. But you probably only want to do this if you're a software developer or actively want to help out with bug reporting and all that.

So Testing's a good sweet spot for normal desktop users.

>>55841368
>I won't have internet for a while and I was considering switching to Linux
Believe me, you don't want to try using Linux without internet

>>55841468
You thought wrong
by its very nature, even a Debian Sid install is more stable than an Arch install. Sid's bleeding-edge is not the hemorrhage edge you'll see in Arch or Gentoo

>>55841494
This is mostly true.
Mind you, you can also hook into your phone's cellular internet over wifi, bluetooth or usb

>>55841494
This man makes a compelling point. You're gonna need a lot of guidance probably, as you adjust. Also this >>55841525

>>55841368
You might also want to just make a liveUSB install right now so you start getting the hang of it while you still have internet access.

>>55841509
that's why we like it
and you can always downgrade a package.

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>>55840859

Best Li-Nukes development IDE?
I admittedly love Visual Studio, but I also love open source. Intelisense is fucking magic though .

Havent used Kdevelop in a LONG time (back when KDE3 was new). Worth checking out again or maybe something else?

>>55841544
I don't deny that that's an unattractive feature by nature. I'm simply making a statement. It's a matter of preferences/needs

I prefer Debian Sid's bleeding-edge-with-reasonable-safety-net, you prefer Arch's very bleeding-edge, and that's fine

>>55841429
kek

>>55841568
>>55841544
*meant to say I don't deny that that's an attractive feature

>>55841558
What language are you developing with

>>55841542
>>55841525
>>55841494
I tried to take my laptop camping while I worked on an IoT application.

I didn't have the network simulator configured completely but figured I could debug without internet and get it done.

When I started debugging, I realized it only worked with Java 5 and a super ancient version of the nesc compiler.
>How the fuck do you even get Java 5? Still don't know.

Needless to say, I didn't get any fucking work done. Fuck TinyOS/TOSSIM. So outdated and impossible.

>>55840859
Lmao, mind if I use this zinger in the future?

>>55841479
Thank you. I think I'll do this then.

>>55841494
>>55841542
I'll have internet for at least another month or so. I plant to download things to fuck around with while I wait. I won't be without internet for too long. I'll probably install it pretty soon.

>>55841603
Usually C# (for the bulk) and C (for whatever works better in it then C#.
I know C# is not exactly the /g/ thing, but its nice to not have to do a lot of boilerplate for GUI or non-proformance shit.

I know monodevelop is a thing, but I've never used it.

Been a long time since I've used Linux full time, but with my laptop I've basically given up on Windows 10. Still Win 7 on my desktop but who knows where that is going after Win 7 support is out the window. Figured its a good idea to get reaquanted with Linux as a potential full time OS all around.

>>55841403
>systemd
>KISS

epin

>>55841658
>Usually C# (for the bulk) and C (for whatever works better in it then C#.
>uses an IDE
>forgets the ending parenthesis
Sounds about right to me.

>>55841152
>>55841192
>>55841234
Anyone take a look at this yet?
I'm probably just going to keep doing the super lazy fix

>>55841661
Are you anti-systemd?

>>55841661
This. Arch should drop the KISS lie now, they no longer respect that.

>>55841742
systemd is pretty simple for the end-user
What's the gripe?

>>55841728
>>55841751
Don't start with the systemd fanboyism here, we know trolls like to shitpost against any dissent.

>>55841779
That's not an argument.
And I'm being genuine. I haven't found any unfriendliness with basic systemctl usage.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Basic_systemctl_usage

>>55840886
>>55840963
So, I got the idea to run doom on a new X server, it's a good temporary solution, but fuck is it a messy and error prone one
Had to stop using my display manager because it kept being restarted

>>55841627
Just get a working system with everything you usually need before then. Without internet you have no package manager and that will be very bothersome

>>55840227
mpd+ncmpcpp is GOAT

>>55841751
That isn't what KISS is supposed to mean. If it were about simplicity for the end user then it should be Ubuntu's or Mint's motto.

>>55841817
That's what I use.
Pretty slick.
Default ncmpcpp config for the most part.

>>55841805
>>55841751
KISS doesn't mean simple for the end-user
It means that the system has a simple design

inb4 systemd trolls shitstorm

>>55841742
I use Arch and Ubuntu, Arch is actually more comfy and simple. However I wish they kept an LTS repo. Nevertheless Arch is a very good and simple distro for daily use

>>55841840
>>55841828
Fair enough.

>>55841846
Waste of a post

>my post is also a waste
>fuck it
>new thread every 10 minutes
>4chan crashes from summerfag surge

>>55841846
Pulseaudio

>>55841816
Understood. Thanks again for the help.

Why would I use

systemctl hybrid-sleep

over

systemctl hibernate

?

I started using a linux distro 3 days ago.

The tools thats been the hardest for me to use is Vim as a text editor for programming.

Question is, is there any advantage for sticking with vim? or should I just switch to eclipse?

I mean, will staying with vim make me a better programmer in the long term?

pls respond

>>55841995
Just use KDevelop

>>55841997

Yeah but, like is there any valuable knowledge to learn from sticking with vim? I guess its stupid to say ''valuable knowledge'', I just wan't to learn how to program and then move on towards harder stuff from what I learn, but vim is not making things any easier... desu.

Does anyone here actually use Gentoo? What are your experiences and how much of pain is it? Do you notice real benefits to all the options you get?

>>55840671
You will gain nothing putting games on an ssd, out side of a few rts games.
Put windows on the ssd, and all your user data/games on to an hdd.

>>55842052
I used to use funtoo. It's not a pain at all, it makes you learn a lot and I loved the freedom of the USE flags and being able to patch things as needed. I did notice performance improvements too. When there's not some kind of upstream bug it is solid and very stable. I only moved away from it because I don't really have the time for it and I live in the tropics so compiling on a core2 laptop in 30+ degree heat isn't great. I'd definitely recommend it though.

>>55842014
>>55841995
>Question is, is there any advantage for sticking with vim? or should I just switch to eclipse?
Stick with Vim. I'm not saying this because I think it's specifically something you should know. I'm saying this because you ought to not give up on learning things like it. If you're hoping to learn to hold your weight in Linux, as a programmer, or whatever your aspirations are, you should see this one through. It's a small step, but it will give you confidence to overcome trickier things in the future.

(Also FWIW, Vim and Eclipse don't really make sense to compare. Eclipse is an IDE and Vim is an in-terminal text editor. When it comes to learning tools, you should be comfortable using at least one of the major Unix editors.)

>I mean, will staying with vim make me a better programmer in the long term?
Not on it's own, no, not at all. But if you learn to use it, it might give you confidence, like I said before. If you give up now to do what's easy, you're likely going to give up on a whole lot of other things down the road; what's the point of trying to learn something new if you avoid actually learning anything new?

Good luck.

>>55841966
A sleeping computer wakes up fast and restores your session, but the session is lost in case of a power outage or whatever
A hibernated computer doesn't boot as fast but it restores your session just the same
With hybrid sleep you have sleep with a hibernation fallback, best of both worlds I guess

>>55842171
Can I use hybrid-sleep if I dual-boot and enter the other OS?

>>55842191
Eh, it depends
If your computer is sleeping, it will just wake up on the sleeping system
If it is hibernated, it will boot like normal and show you grub
I guess you could probably unplug your hybrid-sleeping computer from the wall and then back on, to force it to fallback to hibernation, but that somewhat seems like a bad idea

tl;dr If you want to switch between systems without losing your session, just go with hibernation

>>55842271
Understood. But, still on the topic of hybrid-sleep, does the system goes into suspend mode and while in suspend mode is put into hibernation, or the other way around?

>>55842171
>added space complexity
>same battery drain

worst of both worlds

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tldr need a rec for something that can handle overscan natively

i have an old laptop with a broken screen, and an old hdtv with no overscan options. machine is an HP2000 intel i3, tv is a shitty vizio confirmed for no overscan options. Ive tried xrandr with no use, mostly trying ubuntu because this is just a shitposting machine and im a pleb, but im ok with trying anythuing that will work. is there any hope?

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Daily reminder.

>>55842636
>NT/Windows
Correctly it would be Windows/NT, but well, it doesnt make sense anyway since Windows is a single project.

>>55842636
I love these. Any new recent ones?

So in my main computer I run Debian with GNOME, and in my laptop I've taken the liberty of doing a fresh install of Debian with just i3 and lightDM.

Where would be the best place to look for examples of compton (specially this), i3, and lightDM configurations - so that I may get an idea of what can be achieved?

Thanks in advance!

>>55842727
General rms mail caps?

>>55842818
Yeah.

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>>55842727
>>55842826

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Should I? I've been running it on an old laptop and main laptop for a few months now. I haven't done much on the desktop and the pic shows about how long I've been on Debian and GNU/Linux on general. They say the system might break, but I doubt that's the case when even Arch, a more bleeding edge distribution, can be fine with savvy upgrades.

>>55842636
Has anyone (besides stallman) tried telephony?
Is it shit?

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>>55842847
>that word wrap
Reminder that alot of RMS mails are fakes. How to spot fakes? RMS is using emacs. Pic related. Common faked mail.

>>55842847
So he doesn't mind? I don't think the UNIX philosophy is the way to go, but it isn't a bad way to do things. For sure, over modularity can be a bitch for compatibility.

>>55842925
Retard here. I haven't read the RMS part yet, is it because he's going past character limits on lines? I don't use emacs.

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>>55842925
For comparsion, a real reply.

>>55842949
Yeah, oldfags like RMS break lines at max 80 characters. Dunno the current default on emacs tho.

>>55842988
>>55842967
>>55842925
Thanks for teaching summerfags how to fake rms emails. inb4 epic stickies.

>>55842988

man fmt

>>55842847
Looks real. There's even a double space between sentences.

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I want to try Linux but there are so many different Linuxes available and I've no idea what to choose. Can you tell me which Linux is the BEST? Please help.

>>55843148
Just try one of the *buntus, the only difference is the desktop environment.
There is no BEST, there is just what you choose to be best.

I've been tempted to install Arch lately, but I don't think I have the time to play with it right now. Is it a wise choice to jump to Arch from Debian?

>>55843148
HOW OLD IS THIS PASTA, JESUS MOM.

>>55843240
Not if you don't have the time for it.

>>55843240
Why would you switch to Arch when you're already on the best distro.

Naw just kidding

In all seriousness, I guess it's part of the evolution of a GNU/Linux user. It's a phase, you'll come around eventually to realizing making things hard for yourself doesn't make sense

>>55843261
I will have time eventually though.
>>55843266
These are new feelings for me, I guess you're right, I'm in the adolescence of a Linux user.

>>55843240
Should be pretty easy.
Takes about 15 minutes for me now.
First time probly took a couple hours after using Noobuntu for like 1-2 yrs. I think I had problems getting x to work the first time.
I don't remember why.

>arch-chroot
>pacstrap
>locale and mirror
>enable dhcpcd
>pacman some shit
>startx
>done.

Shit, now I forgot why I even came in here.
uhhhhh
oh well, guess it wasn't that important.

>>55843249
This guy is a faggot. The original fag usually posts a gif or webm [saved a lot of them (Where are you, anon? ;_;)].

On the other hand, the pasta is pretty much useful to see how many newfags we have in this thread since there are only three possible correct answers:

a) The one I'm using.
b) GNU Linux-libre
c) 4.7

>>55838068
if you pay close attention, you will see that the finger is pointing at my big fat cock

>>55843266
Besides systemd and no graphical installer and rolling release -- nevermind I'm not even convincing myself. I just like breaking shit, I guess.
Arch is for bottle kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMbu8y8xAE

>>55843291
My advice is: if you really wanna learn the hard way and go through all the bumps of distro-hopping for ages and ricing and all that shit, then have a separate /home partition. There. Now you can distro-hop for days on end, and eventually you will realize there's 0 point to that.

If you can take advice from people that have gone down that path: just stick to Debian. Really. Upgrade it to testing, or to sid if you wanna feel a bit more haxxor. But there's really no need for anything more in most cases.

>>55843304
>do I fit in now?

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>>55843308
underrated post

>>55843358
I do have a separate /home partition, shared with windows. I am currently using testing, but still feel a little bit limited as what I can do with the machine, everything just ends up being ricing. Guess I'll stick to Debian.

>>55843293
Now I fucking remember.
Anyone successfully get Microshit Word going through Wine?
I have no problem with free word processors but docx is good for applicant tracking systems (resume filters).

>>55843421
>still feel a bit limited as what I can do with the machine
Well, then it begs the question: what are you looking to do with your machine? And how would Arch let you do it?

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>>55841091
>tfw nobody likes your find

>>55843424
wait, you can save to docx in abiword can't you...
Question still stands, though.

>>55843453
Anything better than Abiword? Formatting options seem a little shit.
Best Word Processor guys?

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>>55843447
Sorry anon. I saw your post, but I didn't try it.
I still probably won't.

>>55843424
There's a convoluted way to save tex files to docx, if I remember right. That would be my choice.

>>55843478
That's a good idea, I already know LaTeX.
Just never thought of using it for a resume.
Thanks anon

>>55843488
There's actually a res doctype. I had to download it.

>>55843472
libreoffice obviously

0-4 says I completely uninstall windows.

>>55843473
I guess killing myself would be suboptimal, so let's see if there's something more interesting.

Poor man's remote mpv.

xbindkeys:

# mpv: play/pause
"printf 'cycle pause\n' > /tmp/mpv.fifo"
    Mod4 + Alt + Pause

# mpv: prev
"printf 'playlist_prev\n' > /tmp/mpv.fifo"
    Mod4 + Alt + Prior

# mpv: next
"printf 'playlist_next\n' > /tmp/mpv.fifo"
    Mod4 + Alt + Next

# mpv: seek --
"printf 'seek -5\n' > /tmp/mpv.fifo"
    Mod4 + Alt + Shift + Prior

# mpv: seek ++
"printf 'seek +5\n' > /tmp/mpv.fifo"
    Mod4 + Alt + Shift + Next

mpv itself is hooked using a function in ~/.bashrc:

mpv() {
    local file="/tmp/mpv.fifo"

    if [ ! -p "$file" ]; then
        mkfifo "$file"
    fi

    command mpv --input-file="$file" "$@"
}

inb4 0 replies

>>55843524
pics or didnt happen

Are there any disadvantages to running Ubuntu on a VM rather than dual booting?

>Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS, this is recommended if you want to know more about the GNU/Linux operating system.
What did he mean by this?

>>55843551
Decreased performance

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>>55843524
I'll be waiting.

>>55843551
Who is "he"?
VMs are generally laggy and there's no point in partitioning anything... and therefor not a real experience.

>>55843551
VM means: no (only virtual) hardware support.
You woun't get the speed than running it balls deep.

>>55843562
You rolled a 4.
You expect us to roll for you?
Go suck Bill Gates' dick.
Also
>rolling
>>55843524

Whenever someone suggests running Linux in a VM to a first-timer, as opposed to a liveUSB or something like that, I kind of imagine Tux going:

>Oh hi anon! I'm so excited that you decided to switch to GNU/Linux! So you wanna install the Ubuntu distro huh? Cool!
>Oh...! You um, you're running me on VirtualBox! Okay! Who's our host system?
>Oh...
>So you mean...I'm being held prisoner ...inside a Windows system
>He depressingly looks at his now apparent cell bars with CCTV cameras all around
>Why would you do this to me, anon?

>>55843586
lol'd
also
>Why'd you only give me 256mb of ram?
>Oh that's right... You're on windows so you only had 256 free...

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>>55843586
The Linux Tux penguin mascot is really lame desu.
Why doesn't Linux adopt a cute 2D girl as their new mascot like AMD has? I guarantee it'd drive tonnes more people to adopt Linux as their OS.

If dubs, everyone ITT must go balls deep (which means, either throw Windows out of the computer or throw the computer out of the window).

>>55843524

I am downloading Ubuntu now to put on a disk

>>55843620
we have enough of those people already.
Looks like you're one of them. Nice picture.

>>55843622
Fuck off, I need my animu gaemz sempai

>>55843620
Because there would be a bloody civil war to decide which cute 2D girl to use. It'd be serious fucking business.

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>>55843622
Based.

>>55843629
git gud and KVM™

>>55843622
People actually have windows in their computer?

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>>55843575
>>55843538
>>55843562

How does RMS feel about running Windows under a KVM?

>>55843640
question.

I only have one dedicated GPU. If I successfuly execute the passthrough to get that GPU to work for my virtual machine of Windows inside Linux, can I easily tell the GPU to feed back into my linux machine itself if, say, I want to run some games natively there (and not have to use the integrated graphics from the CPU?)

>>55843647
>DE
I'm so confused right now.

>>55843650
Easy. It may be secure (because sandboxxed) but it still restricts your freedom to modify, share and redistribute software.

>>55843647
Did u make a donation?
>You cheap fuck

>>55843647
>League of Legends
TRIGGERED

>>55843655
>can I easily tell the GPU to feed back into my linux machine
I'd like to know this too. It would be fantastic.

>>55843650
are you kidding me?
>How does RMS feel about running Windows

is this even a question

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>>55843650
Pic of the law related.

>>55843647
>IT Trainee job postings
>DE
wut is happenning

Whatever assholes gotta start somewhere.

>>55843746
Is that a VM then?
Honestly F5'ing like crazy trying to figure this out

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Trips confirm this guy: >>55843622

>>55843762
Not I got a partition and installed Ubuntu on it, now I'm debating whether to put it on my SSD since it takes forever to boot and I hardly use windows anyway.

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What's the best distro for a Windows refugee who wants an easy transition from Windows to Linux while still being able to play vidya without hassle?

The only vidya I play is Dota and it works on Linux apparently.

>>55843782
Yeah these are super old tabs, I started playing Dota and honestly it's a lot better, however, there is more variety in Windows

Does anyone has a copy for Deezloader x86 linux version? My HDD just got fucked up and I lost mine

>>55843779
I'm bad with these things.

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>>55843622
I'm already balls deep though.

>>55843795
I don't think I understood your post at all.

>>55843799
I don't think I understood your post at all.

>>55843825
I understood but I'd rather have the easy OS to start with and I can concentrate and studying programming, I can always learn new distros.

>>55838125
Not for Linus. He has to choose between proprietary kernel blobs and true freedom. It's why people like RMS and the FSF don't endorse non-libre kernels, he sacrifices true freedom for convenience with drivers. The mainline kernel is not free as in freedom, it's free as in beer.

>>55843879
>free as in beer

>>55843903
We all know what he meant. It's been said like 10 times in this thread already.
Ctrl+F

>>55843828
Is my monitor/display fucked up or does your wallpaper have these rings for real?

I know Linux can read Windows ntfs files perfectly fine, but can Windows read Linux files?

>>55843903
I meant free as in free beer. But I think you're just being a smartass.

>>55843911
>CTRL+F
>not /

The Devil in Miss Thread: >>55843932

>>55843926
ctrl+f is far easier

>>55843444
Just mess with it. The process of Arch installation leads to a more personalized system, or at least that's the common knowledge.

>>55843918
That's Gimp's screwy drop-shadow option. I could probably fix it up but I think I deleted the .xcf.

>>55843953
Oh, - no worries, I feel save again.

>>55843948
It's a demonstrably wrong assumption

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>55844072
This guy is very right. Arch is a simplistic distro, but not minimalist. Saying so is silly. A clear example is support for hardening Arch is lackluster to say the least.

>>55843920
no

>>55843920
There are some programs that let you do that. I've used Ext2Read (supports ext2/ext3/ext4) in the past, but was a couple years ago so there might be better solutions now.

>>55843532
(You)

>>55839892
Not sure how it works together with Compton, and you need to do it every time after starting X. It used to be in Xorg.conf, but the latest driver update caused problems with some screens staying black until you switched your tty and back, which is annoying, so I put it into a script i run after starting X.

>>55841252
No idea, but I doubt nvidia-settings would work for AMD

>>55844880
>No idea, but I doubt nvidia-settings would work for AMD
Of course, I was just curious on how they deal with it with AMD drivers.

>>55842862
when I switched to sid on my VM it broke inetd
that may be because I'm an idiot and ran

apt-get upgrade

>>55842862
Sid is more bleeding edge than Arch, unless you go for Arch's testing repos