So we're getting rid of it right? Digital Headphones

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just as soon as we get robot ears

>>55811973
The future I see is OP still sucking nigger dicks.

>>55812447

>>>/b/

>>55811973
Sure.
I love listening to high 1s.

>wireless sound quality
never ever fampai

I will not buy a phone without a proper headphone jack. The charge port doesn't count, I imagine the headphones could pull out way too easy. I don't give a fuck about muh thin device, even if you have to thicken the phone, that shit better stay son

Welp. Guess it's time to get that SE.

analog all the way

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>>55812497
>using the phones DAC

Why do smartphones just keep getting worse?

>>55813407
Well, I have a theory but bare in mind it is a theory.
We have reached our limited of innovation with smart phones and laptops/tablets.
Everything now is just updating processors and RAM for shits and giggles.
Moore's Law won't even apply in 4 years with silicon anymore.

>>55813433
>We have reached our limited of innovation

That's not a theory, that's a fact.
All smartphones are pretty much the same just with different designs these days.

>>55811973
Why not get rid of it?
Apple is pushing towards bluetooth headphones anyway.
The ones they sell through Beats and the ones they will inevitably give out with their phones are not like the ones your thinking of.
They are literally giving wireless Beats away with every Mac sold right now.
I got a pair; they last 12 hours apparently which translates out to me as lasting 4 days.

>>55811973

>So we're getting rid of it right?
Hopefully not.
>Digital Headphones are the future?
Theoretically? Yes.
Will companies pull it off well at all? Likely not.

As sad as it is to say, we're gonna have to wait for Apple to release/include decent quality digital earbuds/headphones before we see the digital headphone market make any sort of marked improvement. Otherwise, if they don't, we'll just get off-brand headphones/earbuds that sound like absolute trash, costing middling amounts of money, with the justification: "Well, we're just trying to make a good quality product for consumers who are in this circumstance." while other audio companies keep releasing their flagship/better products in 3.5mm format only "for compatibility. You can still use our high-quality earspeakers with your smartphone via the digital-out audio adapter."
But if Apple does decent Earbuds/Headphones that are Digital, we might see companies like Sennheiser/Audio-Technica/Sony/Etc release Digital-Only products that are worth a shit for the market, to "give customers a similar experience to their existing Apple Earpods, but with better performance."

>>55813445
Same guy but you can't say it is a 'fact' yet.
Technically as long as the RAM and processor are still increasing in speed/size it is "innovation."
But design reached its pinnacle with iPhone 5 and whichever Galaxy was waterproof first.
That was the last good year for smart phones.

>>55812425
underrated post

>>55813433
>>55813445
Wow you're both retards.
>muh innovations iz ovar :( ( ( ( (

It's called milking your product, you stupid fucks. Of course they are going to try and milk as much money out of consumers as possible, with spending as little as possible to slightly improve their current devices, and attract a new buttload of asswipes to buy their new IMPROVED devices.

>>55813506
>he actually believes any smartphone company actually has any innovation left

kek
I'm sure you were hyped for that 3D touch crap as well.

>>55813527
Gimmicks do not count as innovation until used correctly faggot.

They don't want you to have better phones with actual innovative features, because it costs more for them. Gimmicks on the other hand are easy and cheap to apply.

>>55811973
>digital headphone

>as opposed to the analog headphones we have now

>>55811973
It's the last thing that is a relic of the past. It needs to be modernized somehow.

>>55813571
And you need to get that nigger cock out of your ass, boy.

>>55813561
>digital
>headphones
Get you head out of your ass, the signal may be digital but it has to be converted into a sound wave which is analog in nature.

>>55812447
>>55813593
You have to be 18+ to post here
>>55813527
>/fag/s are this much of defeatists
Innovation hasn't died and it won't die until the distant future (until we have cheap working star trek replicators). Sorry your shit company is dying, but don't pretend that they're the end of innovation.

i'm actually ok with digital headphones. but it will be a mess for people who can't differenciate between lighting, usb c and micro usb headphones

>>55811973
Not taking into account the literally millions of small business' that use credit card scanners through earphone jack....

give me a thicker phone with bigger battery and longer battery life over this super thin shit that doesnt even feel good in your hand. and with a thicker phone there is no point in removing the 3.5mm jack

>>55811973
At some point they have to turn it back to analog so you can actually hear it, you know.

>>55813445
Maybe when my phone gets the power of my PS4 at half the price, and then more.

>>55813433
>>55813445
Same can be said with guns. It's just rocks being pushed by explosives.

>>55813445
they keep coming up with shit, VR is the new emerging fad for smartphones.

So now they have an excuse for cramming in more powerful processors and GPUs along with the increasingly ridiculous resolutions given the screen's size and viewing distance.

>>55811973
Analog over USB is the future(and an existing standard).

>>55812425
kek

>>55812473
>>55813817
>>>/reddit/

Homosexuality is a sin you degenerates, repent before you die and burn in hell for all eternity.

>>55813433
>>55813445
>>55813472
>>55813506
>>55813527
>>55813542
>>55813817
>>55814149
Smartphones beat the umpc. Android just needs to be able to boot windows apps or have a dual boot with a Windows os.

Also we may see programmers innovate in space saving again like in the psx era as smartphones become a popular platform for gaming.

Imagine metal gear go:
Surroundings converted into levels with boss spawns and enemies using camera.
Level system and customization of weapons.
Ration and ammo spawns
Base building
Trophy collecting
PvP

>>55811973
Sure, I'd like to have more expensive, bulkier, worse quality, less power efficient headphones due to them requiring a built in dac + amp without ability to use your own. Oh and phones won't even get rid of their dac and amp because they have speakers, so that's also redundancy in headphones side. Leave jack alone, or >>55814168 if you want to choose between charging and listening to music.

>>55813121
>putting DACs in headphones
>incompatible with nearly every currently device in existence
>probably infereior due to size constraints as well
>all this for muh 1mm thinner phone
Wew

>>55813121
Show me a single dac for digital headphones.

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>>55814029
>people who can't differenciate between lighting, usb c and micro usb

Pic related might be a better solution for them.

W>>55812497
U know some wireless headphones sound really good and most of them have 3.5 mm Jack or 2.5mm in them if u want to connect them with wire.
My Bluetooth headphones sound really good, gret mid and high range, not the best low range but good

>>55813506
>Says innovation is not over
>Then proceeds to explain why innovation is over

>>55812425

win

>>55814146
because pushing explosives by explosives into people was banned by one of the Hague Conventions...same for deliberately blinding people with lasers...

>>55814220
>>>55812473
>>>55813817
>>>>/reddit/
>Homosexuality is a sin you degenerates, repent before you die and burn in hell for all eternity.
Annihilationism senpai

>>55814277
>all this for muh 1mm thinner phone
nah
The sheep have to shaved somehow, so why not with 60$ headphones that don't work anywhere else?

I don't want headphones that I have to charge. I'm a couple generations behind anyway, on a Samsung Galaxy S5. If this shit starts becoming common I won't mind sticking with the last generation to have a headphone jack for as long as I can. More than not charging etc I wouldn't ever want to invest in wireless headphones. I paid $32 for my JVC HA-S500 and they're fantastic. How much would I need to pay for some wireless shit that's even close to being as good?

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>>55814296
you just don't get do you

>>55814438
No, that's a dac for regular headphones. Digital headphones have a built-in dac and amp that you can't bypass.

>>55812425
/thread

>>55814388
People who have hepatitis handle food because it's illegal to discriminate against them. Same with herpies.

>>55814296
Digital headphones don't exist.
"Digital" headphones are just headphones with an integrated DAC.

>No one will ever make a smartphone with a 720p screen, mid-range cpu/gpu, 10,000 mAh battery, headphone jack and either 2 usb c ports or 1 usb c + micro hdmi port

;_;

I need two ports because I like to charge my device while hooking it up to a display. I also don't see the point of using a screen res past 480p on a smartphone. To be honest you can't tell the difference between 480p and 2k on a 5 inch device.

>>55814436
Unpowered USB headphones exist. Just because a headset uses USB-C or Lightning (though apple would be stupid to stick to lightning these days -- hell, their Macbooks use USB-C as-is) doesn't mean that it has to be powered.

>>55811973
>apple makes statement saying they aren't doing it months ago
>'hey guys, we're getting rid of it right?'

fucking imbecile.

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>>55814277
>incompatible with nearly every currently device in existence

if only there was some sort of common standard for short range wireless devices...

>>55814622
>lightning headphones
Where did I say that I was talking about bluetooth headphones? Also

>having to charge your headphones

>>55814622
Bluetooth 5 is already here breh

>>55811973
>Digital Headphones are the future?
I don't like listening to binary though.

>>55811973
If you want something thinner than phones already are, go touch your dick

Fucking little kids

>Girlfriend bought me an iPhone 6 when it came out
>This thing is so fucking thin
>I mean too thin
>Sitting down makes it slide out of my pocket and land on the floor

And the rumor is that taking out the headphone port will save a single millimeter of thickness. Fuck that. We all know you'll have to spend $30 on a bulky adapter to stick out of your phone if you don't want to use Apple's shitty earbuds.

>>55813121
how does he get through life

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>>55814570
>I need two ports because I like to charge my device while hooking it up to a display
wew lad

>>55814225
Take your innovative game ideas and hilarious ideas of what Android can do to /v/

To be honest, I dont care about phones dropping the 3.5 jack. Digital and or wireless headphones will keep getting better.

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>>55811973
What do you mean by "we"? I'm not buying shit that doesn't have a 3.5 mm headphone jack in it.

>>55815019
>two ports
>plug in power
>plug in video output
>unplug video output when it isn't needed anymore

>one plug
>plug in adapter
>plug in power
>plug in video
>unplug video when it isn't needed anymore
>can't unplug the adapter without losing power

>>55814570
>he doesn't know that one USB-c port can charge and dock to a display at the same time.

most useless port on my lumia

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>>55815119
Actually the dock is powered by USB-C, so it's more like

>one plug
>plug in dock
>have one cable running from phone to dock for both power and video
>unplug dock and steal dock's USB-C cable to continue charging phone when video is no longer needed

This approach also allows plugging in a keyboard and mouse, and maybe an external storage device or whatever else you might want.

>>55815179
If the device has a battery, like a phone.
Does that Windows box have a battery though?

>>55815126
>>55815179
I need something for android 5 that can charge my phone and use usb for drives and midi controllers, maybe a display too.

>>55815204
No, what would it need a battery for ?
The box is powered by a USB-C power brick/charger/wall wort/whatever-the-fuck you want to call it

>>55814570
>To be honest you can't tell the difference between 480p and 2k on a 5 inch device.

>To be honest you can't tell the difference between 480p and 2k on a 5 inch device.

>To be honest you can't tell the difference between 480p and 2k on a 5 inch device.

Sorry, but you fucking what? Are you seriously _this_ stupid?

Isn't wireless easier to intercept/disrupt?

>>55815361
>i don't know encryption exists

Won't this mean more expensive headphones? As you need some logic inside them.

>>55815454
So calls via Bluetooth are encrypted? :/

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No, "we" are not getting rid of it. Apple is going full fucking retard as usual.

>>55815361
If it's good enough for spy planes it's good enough for your shitposting

>>55815512
So is one of the chink phone brands. Don't remember if it was Huawei or Xiaomi, but one of them already released a phone without a headphone jack.

>>55811973
>Digital Headphones are the future?

Nah, just an external DAC.

Carrying loads of adapters and extra devices is the future.

>>55814349
If you've ever flipped a usb over--even fucking once--because you had it the wrong way the first time, sell your computer and kill yourself.

Look, I can spout extremist, asinine opinions, too.

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>>55813448
>bluetooth headphones
Having to constantly charge something that will end up losing its battery life and sounding worse is only attractive to the most retarded and ignorant,

>>55815530
Moto z

>>55814791
$1000 oxygen free copper cables

>>55815530
Letv. Thus only meme brands removed 3.5 so far.

>>55815722
I have to charge the Beats Wireless Solo2s once a week basically.
I only listen to music on my 15 minute commute and maybe 30 minutes to an hour here and there while browsing the web between work/classes.

>>55815295
I hope this >>55814570 dipshit is joking

>>55811973
DRM all the way.

>Sorry, this track cannot be listened to with these headphones. Please purchase the latest Apple Beats Dindu to enjoy the music.

>>55815577
what happened to all the smartphone memers saying carrying a camera, a music player, and a phone was wasteful now?

>>55814791
>>55815830
Do you people think he enjoys those headphones?
He blasted them in his review and put them in his Pile of Shame.

>>55816147
>what happened to all the smartphone memers
Apparently getting shafted now that smartphones are removing functions.

>>55813121
>when the autism kicks in

>>55815877
I play games that involve music around two hours a day and use my headphones for audio for another 4-6 hours

>>55813121
I never understood this.

Is he happy or sad?

>>55816730

he's in pain.

>>55816730
He fucking trashed those headphones on his review.

>>55816730
>Is he happy or sad?
He is in intense pain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ
He does not like these headphones.

>>55811973
Most of the audiophile lore is made up bullshit but Bluetooth audio is really really shitty sounding compared to using the headphone jack.

>>55814570
you can charge and send data over usb-c. one port is more than enough.

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>>55815690
>not being able to distinguish three visually different things
>implying that is as normal as not being able to always plug a usb cable ln the first try
>being less mentally capable than a 3 year old

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>>55817249
I dont understand

Why is he suffering?

>>55818938
Oh wait, I think I get it.

He is just acting, to be funny

>>55816730
parody of audiophiles

>>55814622
>if only there was some sort of common standard for short range wireless devices...
if only there was a way to get the goy to give us more shekels for the pointless bluetooth headphones we invented...

>>55815722
>Having to constantly charge something that will end up losing its battery life and sounding worse is only attractive to the most retarded and ignorant,
I don't know about that, people have different usecases. That guy that uses his headphones for <1hr a day and has to walk everywhere could probably get benefit from wireless headphones. They are just completely impractical for those of us who need to listen to things for extensive periods of time.

Another reason to not buy an iPhone.

>>55812425
Kekek

>>55813121
Audiophiles are mentally ill.

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>expensive proprietary heaphones with new connector to cash in shekels from normies wanting le thin phone meme

oh what times to be alive, some time ago nokia had pop-port for all accessories and was bashed for it so they made a switch to jack port at some point

now when apple is planning to do completely opposite shit - mfw this is going to be shilled on mashable and that kind of shit

>>55819710
Until every other manufacturer did the very same thing a year after. You know it's true. They are just waiting for Apple to make the first painful step as they are apparently the only ones who can move the market enough with a single product to pull shit like that.

>>55819882
There are already some Android phones out without headphone jacks.

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>>55819760
I went to a family/friend surprise party a couple days ago and the husband there is a grade A+ audiophile, instead of having a living room its decked out with these two giant fucking speakers and all sorts of of sound equipment with heaps of vinyl.

I had a search for the cost of the speaker pair, nevermind the other stuff; the cheapest pair started at $35,000

They could've had much needed house renovation for a fraction of that, holy fuck.

>>55814114
This desu famalam

My S5 is thin enough for me, any thinner and it would start feeling flimsy. It's 8.1mm thick. I'd gladly take a bigger battery and make it 8.5mm+.

>>55814225
There's a lot of chink tablets and laptops that dual boot android and windows 10. I'm quite tempted to get one. This might creep into the chinkphone market, would be quite interesting desu.

>>55822392

You can't ever completely disable windows 10 telemetry.
Microsoft is actively pushing towards making this ever harder to do as well - see the recent group policy change (which really insidiously simply ignores user settings altogether, without notifying the user in any way) for example.
You should not support this operating system.

>>55822411
I know, I think I would stick with the android side of things anyway. Maybe there's even a way to get 7 on there instead.

>>55815179
>reduce size of box by half
>buy dock the size of box
>have the original box's dimensions broken up into two boxes

Applefag logic, everyone :^)

>>55811973
There is no such thing as a "digital" speaker.

>>55817409
What is this mess plugged into?

>>55819939
but apple will make people get used to it since its one of the most (if not the most) popular phone

>New MacBooks remove 3.5 audio port for a lightning/usb-C port for audio.

>>55822602
>Applefag logic, everyone :^)
By your logic we should all be carrying phones twice as thick as the iPhone.

>>55825123
And we should. The THINNER fad needs to end already.

>>55823037
Your mom.

>>55811973
>So we're getting rid of it right?
Maybe
>Digital Headphones are the future?
No, USB C can use the data pin as an analogue output

it's not going to be fucking impossible. how the shit are we going to charge our phones? not an ifaggot but i'm curious. and surely chinks and plenty of others will make adapters/dongles to get around it

why do we even need a headphone jack anymore when we have bluetooth speakers and bluetooth earbuds/headphones anyway?

Why do phones need any ports?
With wireless charging, Bluetooth, and WiFi it makes everything pointless.

>>55825157
epic

>>55812425
This.
Real sound is analog.
Anything digital has to be converted back into analog with varying results.

>>55815877
How's owning literal nigger-tier headphones working?
Sennheiser master race,own both Momentum over ear and Urbanite XL's.

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>>55817409

>Lagdroidautism.png

>>55811973
I'm not a fan as I love having the jack for car as it's another output method. If I don't want another radio running or you have a friend or are that friend no need for pairing either in another car. It's also a good option if you don't want the car to read your texts calls contacts all that too.

>>55825250
>No, USB C can use the data pin as an analogue output

On this note, do we know how Apple intends to do Lightning headphones? Will it be analogue audio carried through the connector, or will headphones need to have their own DAC?

>>55827560
>Anything digital has to be converted back into analog with varying results.
The human ear has the amazing propert of doing just that conversion.
Years ago Class D (pulse-width-modulation) amps were the big new thing. They had frequency response graphs that were straight lines. Not an approximation +/- 3bd.
Their output was a square wave. The speaker's inertia plus the ear's hysteresis meant that you heard clear sound.

>>55828429
>On this note, do we know how Apple intends to do Lightning headphones?
We don't even know if Apple is going to change anything at this stage.
Apple pundits have a very bad track record of predicting Apple' strategies.

>>55828429
short answer is we don't know. the answer to your longer question/the longer answer to your questions is that the rumor is that headphones will need to incorporate DACs, which is slightly troubling. that feels like a really obvious place for headphone retailers to jew customers on if DACs get integrated

>>55828808
this is technically true but apple has gotten really bad at keeping secrets in the last few years, and there's about as much buzz about this as there has been about any new development in years.

i can't think of any feature/development that had roughly this much hype that just never materialized *in the past 3-4 years*. certainly before jobs died there were all sorts of wacky misfires, but since then they've totally lost the ability to really surprise people.

>we're getting rid of it
Apple is getting rid of it. Samsung may follow because they feel they need to copy Apple at every step. Most phones will still have a proper headphone port.

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>>55811973
It's a logistical nightmare to consider how many existing devices that people invested in will become a hassle to connect to.

I'll have to carry an adapter to plug my phone into my car's aux jack and do the same when in other people's cars. I'll have to carry it around to plug into aux jacks for speakers at friend's houses and other random applications.

In addition, you have the whole usb-c vs lighting shit

As far as bluetooth, they're unreasonably expensive for low quality. The maximum bitrate for Bluetooth is 768 Kbps, but most consumer level bluetooth is 200 Kbps max.

I was gonna get the iPhone 7 plus but that's a dealbreaker.

Headphone jacks are just so convenient and practical. It's dumb to get rid of them for 1mm of extra thinness.

Already predicting that apple fanboys will buy the 7, but it'll fall flat for the average smartphone buyer.

and I'll be stuck with a fucking S7 PoS with a shit unstable OS. Got a good camera at least, although the iPhone 7 will be better.

Also, I'm not giving up my Beyerdynamic DT 770s