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Plugs are technology
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>didn't ground

Why would you do something this unsafe?
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>>55776481
US plugs don't have ground.
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>>55776639
>US plugs don't have ground.

The fuck are you on about?
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>>55776647
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Best actual plug is that international standard one that sadly only some cuck country like Brazil uses.

Best theoretical plug would be an elongated, rounded rectangle with 6 pins (not round, rectangular connections) total, 3 on each side (one side an "upside-down" copy of the other), with each side consisting of live, neutral and ground, in that order, with an outer plastic sheath ala IEC connectors. This would give a plug that can be decently space efficient (flat sides pack close together, cable can come out of top, bottom, or back), protects from exposed pins in a non-complete insertion situation (plastic sheath), is polarized, and is reversible.
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>>55776660
That outlet is nonstandard and illegal in the US. They're mandated by law to have the third ground pin available for use, even if not all electrical cords use it. It drastically reduces the risk of electrical shock and fire.
>source: worked at Home Depot for the summer a while back
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I haven't seen plugs like that on shit since the 80s. I'm sure my VCR had one.
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>>55776660
is your argument that at some point in history the US permitted shitty plugs?

do you not feel like you've discredited your camp somewhat by making such a stupid argument?
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>>55776693
Is that why products like hair straighteners still come with only two plugs? They taught you wrong buddy.
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>>55776809
He was talking about the outlet, not the plug you cuck
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Who /ozone smell/ here? My power stip makes buzzing sounds from time to time, and my whole room smells like "fresh air". It doesn't help that my house was built 100 yrs ago and walll sockets doesn't have an earth connetion
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>>55776897
>parents house built in 190
>still has most of the original wiring
>have to put in electric water heater because the gas one was against building code
>have to install new box in basement to run a new line to the electric water heater
>electrician says there is a short in one of the first floor circuits, the thing will need to be redone
>dad says just cut off the power to 1/4th the first floor outlets.
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>>55776660
>mfw im living in japan and the majority of sockets are like this
>no ground pin
>some have a grounded screw you can connect a wire from either the plug or a separate ground wire from the appliance to
>both my computers are currently ungrounded because my room has a single grounded screw up near the aircon unit
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>>55776958
>>parents house built in 190

Holy fuck that's an old house.
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>>55777054
>190 is old

190s kids need to go choke on their new age rocks

houses from the 180s are more superior

on topic: why was it that countries decided that they would not have a universal standard on plugs long ago, and instead have the IEC make one years and years later (even though only brazil and south africa use it)
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I can't understand a world where there arn't on/off switches on the wall. and a ground.
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>>55776481

...THAT's your problem?
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>>55777146

An auto-switched electrical plug is like a Glock safe action: Safe, -ish.
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>>55777146
I can't take other countries seriously, how is Australia the only country to have switches? what would Kochie tell them to do to save money??
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>>55777235
New Zealand also has them but nz just copies oz for most things.
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>>55777146
I came from New Zealand. I must say the Japanese sockets have me a little uneasy but you can always get plastic plugs to stick in empty sockets, flip the circuit breaker if something gets stuck in a socket and you have to pull it out dangerously, and having 110v is slightly less dangerous than 240v when it comes to ungrounded devices (doesn't arc as far, isn't as strong, most of the stuff in your house doesn't really need the ground and often the ground on the cord isn't actually connected to anything, but the main appliances like washing machine, fridge, microwave, aircon will have a grounded plug or be attached to a ground in some way).
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>>55777235
Australia's usage of switches comes from the british, who have switches on almost everything.
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>>55776809
How can any one person reach these levels of retardation?
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>>55775124
Australian plugs are SAFE
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>>55777248
And have we ever steered you wrong?
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thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wCr7nj8yk4
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>>55776805
They didn't exist back then. Now all new buildings must have them.
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>>55777021
Fug
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It is fine that some appliances does not have a PE pin.
Most appliances should be shielded, so the casing could never give the user a shock.
Stuff like a fridge or washing machine should have PE, because those traditionally have a conducting exterior.
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>>55775124
Danish power plugs are all right.

But since we use a different kind of grounding pin that the SCHUKO (which comes with most products), most everyday appliances are not grounded properly.
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be careful with those american plugs
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>>55776481
Well that plug can't even ground anyways
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>>55779218
I'm not American. But it looks more like 230V Schuko in that powerstrip.

And wasn't there alternate views that showed German licensplates on cars.
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>>55779326
rumors have it that those people are americans on vacation in europe
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>>55779218
uh, that's an australian plug, buddy
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>>55779494
Sure m8
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>>55776809
Either you didn't read what he wrote, or you lack reading comprehension skills
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>>55778067
Yes
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>>55777235
>>55777248
>>55777269

Do they come with witty safety slogans?

>don't die in a twitch, flip that switch
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>>55777021
>living in russia
>never saw actually grounded outlet in my life
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>>55779193
Why are Danish plugs so happy?
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>>55776639
All US outlets have the option to ground not all devices use it though.
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>>55776660
Those are japanese
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>>55776639
The cable in the picture has a fucking ground on it you moron.
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>>55780105
Denmark is usually counted as the happiest country in the world.

We are so happy even our wall sockets are happy.
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Yes.
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>>55776897
>>55776958
>house built 60 years ago
>original wiring still in good condition, but ungrounded
>manually laid new grounding wire and replaced all the outlets in my house
>works great and saved probably $5000 on electricians bills
feels good to own a house
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>>55780389
TECHNOLOGY
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>>55779218

I hope you realize that won't hurt you if it falls in the water... Even without ground it will short out and trip the breaker.

Not to mention you're not the shower eat to ground.
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>>55776693
but interestingly if you extend the outlet with some sort of extension cable, the cable outlets are NOT required to provide ground
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>>55776481
because whoever did that wasnt a pussy like you, your father and his father.
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>>55776696
>I haven't seen plugs like that on shit since the 80s
My vizio has one and circuit breakers have one. you're fucking retarded.
>since the 80s
fucking lying underage newfag
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>>55781205
ALSO

alot of medical technology has three prong plugs
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Started a plug question thread >>55781061 because i didn't see this. Could any pluganon be a gent and help out please? Cheers.
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>Domestic plugs
>Not IEC 60320
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>>55780389
made me kek a lot.
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>>55776680
Nah, that's bullshit. We (Brazil) don't use the international standard plug.We use a slight variation of it to make it incompatible with the only country using the international standard, Switzerland.
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>>55779810
Oi
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>>55780105
Denmark is #1 in both self-reported happiness and antidepressant usage.
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>>55779494
>>55779218
They are in isolated water tank, they wouldn't die. Water would simply short live and neutral wires and flip off circuit breakers. Path of least resistance goes throu water in that strip, not through their bodies.
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>>55780346
>Denmark is usually counted as the happiest country in the world
Norway, Sweden and Finland contest this. As usual, Ireland has the potential to join the list but the citizens are just too miserable to bother contributing.
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>>55781401
sounds like there would be alot of untapped pussy then
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>>55781040
>you're not the shower eat to ground.
I have no idea what you're trying to say but I find it hilarious.
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>>55779494
>"Americans are stupid, look at this!"
>"That's Europe, dumb fuck."
>"Well those are Americans .. uhh .. IN Europe! That's it!"

European tears are almost as good as liberal tears.
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>>55776693
>It drastically reduces the risk of electrical shock and fire.
Ahahahahahahahaahah
it doesnt
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America!!!!
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>>55781463
t. 110-voltlet
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>>55781472
>America!!!!
>image.jpg

every fucking time. thanks apple...
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>>55781633
>apple
That's what you get for being a faggot.
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>>55781061
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>>55781685
i am confused. is this targeted towards me or the iCuck?
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>>55777235
UK has switches.
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>>55781423
>Finland
>Happy
Only because they love suffering.
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>>55781924
WOW
sounds like i belong there
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>>55776809
Anything that has a two-leg plug, as opposed two the type with a grounding prong, is double-insulated. Thus, removing the need for the ground prong.
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>tfw, pic related
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>>55781363
IEC 60320 E/F plugs and outlets would be pretty sexy from an engineering perspective (strong physical connections, minimal socket depth for protected pins of a given unshielded length, etc.), but they're too ugly and bulky for consumers to ever like, plus kids could jam shit in the shroud receptacle groove, etc.
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>>55776809
Either the engineers deemed that it wasn't necessary to ground it or it's a move for compatibility with older electrical systems.
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I have done some electrical work in Europe and in America.

America has way stricter electrical code despite fancy plugs that you see in Europe.

I remember in Switzerland that insulation inside the wall was optional and I never saw a breaker less than 100 amp. Talk about house fires.
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>>55782526
>I never saw a breaker less than 100 amp
Probably the main breaker, each circuit usually has a 10 or 16 amp fuse too.
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>>55781040
>short out and trip the breaker

Depends how conductive the water is which depends on what is dissolved in the water.

I just finished inspecting a pool where the basement flooded and the main distribution was partially submerged. Water wasn't conductive enough to carry a fault current that would trip the breaker, so just a bit of current leaked through the water and the water all heated up. Pic related it's the water line showing how far the MDP was submerged.
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>>55780389
Thank you anon, I was kek like never before.
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>>55782410
I'm an Ameribro and this plug pleases me.
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Why do most outlets around the world only have 1 or 2 plugs? I have to install one of these on every outlet.
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>>55776693
>That outlet is nonstandard and illegal in the US.
What? All the outlets in my apartment except one are like that. I have everything plugged in with those 3 prong to 2 prong adapters including my fridge.
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>>55777054
I haven't laughed this loud in DAYS
thanks /g/
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>>55783341
your apartment is gonna get deported
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>>55783130

Imported from chink land
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>>55780490
Not allowed in Norway.

Need a certified electrician to handle circuits like that. If someone buys that house after you and notice/get a problem with it, then they could sue you.
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>>55782410
The Italians make pretty things.
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>>55776680
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>>55781451
I dunno. They're similar, but European tears just have this peculiar musk to them.
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>>55779326
That's not Schuko
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>>55782526
>this thread

Americans in charge of electricity

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wBk0tp8aE2Q
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>>55776639
Japs dont have grounds. The US does. Their plugs look like ours you fucking euro scum.
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>>55776680
Usb type c should be the plug used for all non heavy duty electronics. Data could be run through it too. Great for IoT in the future.
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>>55783718
why the fuck would they not just add the fucking third NEMA-whatever pin to new outlets and mandate ground lines for new construction?
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>>55776693
lol they arent illegal.half the homes in my area dont have grounds
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>>55783758
Japanese construction industry is a hive of scum and villainy, and the regulators are all former construction guys themselves.
They can't even mandate basic insulation, nevermind electrical grounding.
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>>55783110
How old are you?
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>>55783517
It's like everybody else is fucking retarded.
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>>55781726
This is my first iphone. I've had android since the first phone the G1. Fuck android.
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>>55780389
>tfw made my own meme plug
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Here's an article about grounded outlets from Popular Mechanics Illustrated Home Handyman Vol. 5, 1961. The National Electrical Code (NFPA 70) made it illegal for new homes to have 2-pronged, ungrounded outlets installed after 1974.
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>>55782410
Why that's not the international standard?
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>>55784183
because it's retarded
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>>55782410
Why we can't just pic related?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q

Feels good to be master race
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>>55784271
how can a man with so much hair look so bald?
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>non-americans unironically think dryer plugs are suitable for everyday use
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>>55776884
>le cuck
underage detected
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>>55784411
Magic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2ap5JznqE
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UK plugs are the best I've encountered:
+Ground pin.
+Switches.
+The live port has a shutter that only opens when the longer ground pin is inserted so kids can't stick things in.
+Cable comes out the bottom resulting in lower profile so easier to have things plugged in behind furniture, ect.
+Integrated fuse.
+Very solid and sturdy.
-Very painful painful to stand on.
-Comparatively large.
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>>55784215
Fuck, I'm not even a spaghetti nigger and I can see the merits of a type L socket over Schuko.

With semi-shielded pins and safety shutters, it's just as safe while being better looking and a hell of a lot less bulky on the plug side.
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>>55776660
>>55776693
>>55776809
Two pin plugs were standard in homes up until around the late 60's, and were then succeeded by grounded plugs. Two pin appliances are still common and are no more dangerous than grounded ones because they are required to isolated enclosures if the enclosure is conductive. The two pin sockets are neither non-standard, nor illegal, and are still available for cases where they were grandfathered in, i.e. you need to replace a socket in your house built in 1960 that doesn't have a ground wire at the box.

>>55776696
There are plenty of modern devices with two pin plugs. Random examples: a lamp, many laptops, a PS4, heat gun (hair dryer on crack), drill battery charger, etc.
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>>55784594
you forgot to mention that the earth wire is notably longer than the other two, for the sole purpose that if the wire is forcibly removed (i.e.yanked) out of the frame of the plug then the electricity will escape through the ground plug, because it will be active for a split second longer.
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>>55777235
>how is Australia the only country to have switches?

Every country has them, I have a schuko/europlug splitter sitting next to me with a switch on it.

They are just optional.
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>>55784594
>+Ground pin.
are you secretly from Japan to consider this a positive?

>+Switches.
why is this considered a feature?
do british appliances not actually have their own power switches or something?
or are people simply afraid to touch a power plug near a live socket?

>+The live port has a shutter that only opens when the longer ground pin is inserted so kids can't stick things in.
good, but not that unique anymore

>+Cable comes out the bottom resulting in lower profile so easier to have things plugged in behind furniture, ect.
actually true, but somewhat diminished by being bulky as fuck to begin with

>+Integrated fuse.
this is not actually a feature nor needed in any country that could afford copper wiring in the 1950s

>+Very solid and sturdy.
any injection molded solid plug is probably moreso without needing to be so big
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>>55780132
>Those are japanese

Japanese ones have both pins the same size. American ones don't, due to being unpolarised. That plug is American.
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>>55784594
Fixed all the problems
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why do britbong and europoor plugs/outlets look so fucking weird?
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>>55784594
Also note the earth pin is longer than the other two pins which have plastic sleeping, preventing it from being pulled out a tiny bit and making live pins accessible.
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>>55784683
No one is really sure of the origin of the switches but I believe it to have evolved from a time when some of the country was wired with DC and had switched sockets because otherwise you'd get massive arcs forming and people just got used to having switches on the sockets, it stuck ever since.

We do have unswitched sockets. Along with several other types that most people dont see
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>>55784749
they're mad because they don't have the simplicity of us plugs so they went and reinvented the wheel into a fucking trapezoid.
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who /schuko/ here?
>holds plugs sturdily, you need to apply full force to pull a plug
>because of that, you don't have fuckhueg bricks falling out of plugs(see british)
>standard across most of europe except spushul snowflakes
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>>55784625
Schuko sockets are hollow so they don't need the semi-shielded pins, ground always makes contact first and the entire internal socket is covered up when you plug it in.

Safety shutters are not a requirement but you can just install ones which have them. My power strips have them, plus they have on/off switches too. You can get those for the wall mount as well.

Bulky also means that it is safer and can carry higher current. Type L is only rated 10A.

The biggest problem with Type L is that it looks so similar to Europlug, but rated to 10A. People not knowing this might switch them out and end up with a overheating Europlug cable.
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>>55784896
forgot pic
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>>55781040
>you're not the shower eat to ground
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Thus thread. Just acknowledge the engineering marvel that british plugs are. The only fault in the british system is the weird switch in the outlet. And, yes ground is really important
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>>55784937
Ignoring compatibility when creating a standard will only end in creating more competition and fracturing the market.

Schuko is better than british plugs simply because it has incredible compatibility; and it literally only lacks the fuse which is not really necessary anyway.
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>>55784968
It used to be in Britain when you bought an electrical appliance it didn't come with a plug and you fitted it yourself. This shit was taught in schools.
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>>55784937
What's wrong with the off switch?
It's quite handy and I can certainly think of more annoying things about the plugs.
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>>55782526
>America has way stricter electrical code

Things That Aren't True: Volume 17
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>>55784968
this thread isn't about actual logistical concerns with adding new socket types, just engineering sperging.

Schucko definitely has inertia on its side, and while it's good in all necessary safety areas, it's still an ugly piece of shit that would never have become standard if modern plastics/injection molding and mandatory earthing, and sane consumer-facing transformers existed in the Weimar Republic.
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>>55785029
what's the benefit?

how many things to you really leave plugged in that don't have their own power switches, which would presumably be more conveniently located anyway?
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>>55784683
>why is this considered a feature?

It's so you can switch things off without having to unplug it. You realise that a lot of things use power even when you have switched them "off", right?
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>>55783130
Murrican plugs are small and neat, despite being 110V.

UK plugs appear to be dimensioned in case any desk lamp may suddenly be called upon to draw 12kW.

I'm a eurofag but I prefer the murrican plugs.
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>switches on the outlet
Why am I going to get on my hands and knees and reach behind my couch to turn on a lamp?
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>>55785100
>Americans only install sockets behind couches
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>>55785100
We have switches on the lamps too, some houses also have lamps wired into sockets like these that you control from the main lightswitch

But why do you install all your sockets behind the sofa?
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>>55785097
Outside of maybe a cell phone power adapter, when would this ever be useful?

Do yuropoors and shitposters from down under really go around flipping off their TV power at the wall whenever they leave a room?

Before the advent of remote controlled TVs, I can even imagine what the average person would own that wasn't toggled by a simple physical pole switch.
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>>55783328
cause that shit's ugly as fuck and I need my æṧεтḯ¢™
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>>55785098
This.

220v is better in every way but US plug design is superior
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>>55785146
AESTHETIC
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>>55785146
Right, because when an electrician places the outlets there is already a couch built into the floor.
>nice critical thinking, foreigners
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>>55783672
This fucker deserves that shock tbqfh
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>>55785173
>when would this ever be useful?

It's useful when connecting non-fixed appliances; in the kitchen with blenders or the sandwich grill, in the bedroom with a hairdryer or other heated things (hair straighteners for example), power tools...you know that if the switch is off when you plug them in, then they're off. Not "Whatever the position the switch was in the last time my fuckwit housemate used it".
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>>55785071
>this thread isn't about actual logistical concerns with adding new socket types, just engineering sperging.

Logistical concerns are very fucking real though, and if you ignore some concerns in favour of better engineering then you are advocating something that could be impossible to implement in the real world. Case in point, IEC 60906-1 plugs. Theoretically the best, but no one uses them.

>an ugly piece of shit that would never have become standard if...

Not sure what you mean, it has a way more functional look than the british impaler plugs. And since they are recessed, they take up FAR less space when plugged in.
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>>55785207
So why are you whining about having to climb behind your sofa?
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>>55785146
In NA, nearly all outlets (except for those above kitchen or bathroom counters) are installed about a foot above the floor, which are not exactly convenient to reach towards whenever you want to turn something on or off.

For outlets powering freestanding lamps that we want to frequently toggle, we just wire a chest-high wall switch, which is great if you have the foresight when doing construction/renovation.
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>>55785208
of course he does, that's what happens when you decide to nigger rig things with enough current to kill you
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>>55785173
>Outside of maybe a cell phone power adapter, when would this ever be useful?

When you leave home for an extended trip, such as a vacation. It is standard to unplug everything, so a potential electrical fault somewhere else in the system, or a lightning hit for example, does not end up blowing the otherwise turned off appliance, as that can cause a fire.

Then again when I do that I unplug anything anyway because it is safer, plus you don't accidentally think it is off when it is on because you don't remember which switch position is witch.
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>>55785132
>>55785146
I only picked a sofa because that was the first thing that popped into my head as something that could be in front of an not easily accessible outlet. But to be honest, besides the kitchen and bathroom, most outlets in my house aren't very accessible. The few outlets that are out in the open are rarely used (besides plugging in the occasional vacuum cleaner)
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>>55785287
just flip the fucking breaker?
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>>55785241
>For outlets powering freestanding lamps that we want to frequently toggle, we just wire a chest-high wall switch, which is great if you have the foresight when doing construction/renovation.

uh, don't freestanding lamps come with an on/off switch in burgerland?
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>>55785323
You realise you shouldn't close a breaker with a load attached (I.e. with things plugged in & any switched in the "On" position)? Right?
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>>55784988
dont fucking post shit like this here. This is a friendly place.

>>55785043
Books on troubleshooting your shit ring-mains dont count famalam.

>>55785203
Eh, electrical components for 110v are less costly, but in general I agree.

I'm actually looking to wire one of the rooms in my house with 220v so I can buy foreign electronics and dick around with them.

>>55785265
Thing is, if you're gonna niggarig something, you should know enough to actually do it successfully.
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>>55785326
they obviously do, but sometimes it's nice to put a wallswitch by a doorway for a light across the room.

I'm not a woman or otherwise a person with any sense of interior decoration, but some people prefer lamps instead of wall or ceiling lights but want the same convenience.
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>>55785353
worst thing that happens is that the breaker immediately flips itself off again
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>>55776481
>>55776639

It's earth, not ground

you meme loving fucks
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>>55785362
We have those as well though, its about the only thing BS546 sockets are used for.
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>>55785361
>America has way stricter electrical code

Sure thing famalamadingdong
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>>55785439
a picture of a junction box not up to American code does not prove that Ameircan code isn't strict.
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>>55785203
Ummm u wot m8

I have no dog in this fight but as an Aussie I'm forced to buy electrical shit from overseas due to the Australia Tax and use plugs from everywhere.

Two prong gook plugs eat serious dick and they're replaced with local plugs immediately.
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>>55785389
I bet you call power outlets "mains".

potato, tomato
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>>55785477
>Hot
IT IS FUCKING LIVE
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>>55785207
Why would you willingly put a sofa blocking an outlet?
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>>55785477
>2 wire cable
>has 3 wires
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>>55785463
>not up to American code

Sure it isn't flamapan
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>>55785514
Why does everyone in this thread think I'm the same guy as couchguy?
I was just commenting on shitty logic.
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>>55785514
Because the surge protector can reach out from behind it? Nothing wrong with extension cords either. My outlet positions don't define how I arrange my furniture?
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>>55784896
schuko da best
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American plugs are pens.
Europlugs are left handed pens.
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>giving a fuck about grounds

I've never heard of anybody electrocuting themselves while playing computer.
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>>55785904
>power supply cable comes loose and touches the case
>yfw you press the power button
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>>55785904
I killed the power in my neighborhood when I was ~10y.o.
My gfx card started frying itself but I was too poor to buy a new one, so I tried reapplying fresh thermal paste and cleaning out the fan.
After I got the heatsink back on I realized the fan's power cord had completely broken off.
I tried twisting the wires together and when I powered on the whole neighborhood went black.
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>>55785982
It was probably a coincidence but I still feel like I caused it.
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>>55784988

why the fuck does this shit still happen

why don't manufacturers have an inline power brick
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>>55785904
Do mummy and daddy sort out all of your electrical goods?
Is your computer encased in plastic?
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>>55785996
why
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>>55786012
Too immediate to be a true coincidence.
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>>55785982
I actually kept that gfx card going after that. I got rid of the heatsink fan and placed a big old box fan right next to the computer, with the side panel removed from the case. Shit worked for like two more years.
>>
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>>55785979
>>power supply cable comes loose and touches the case
Two things here.
Not a chance in hell.
Everything in your computer is fucked and parts on your morbo are exploding before you do anything.
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>>55784710
>Japanese ones have both pins the same size
Then why does every socket in my apartment have one pin hole taller than the other?
I have yet to actually get a polarized plug, or maybe my washing machine or fridge is one, I haven't checked, but every single one of the 13 outlets in this apartment is set up for polarized plugs.
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>>55786249
>your morbo
Morbo does not work that way!
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>mfw plugs threads
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>>55786003
I second this.

I'd take a brick over a fucking plug that takes two spaces.
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>>55784594
Yes we brits used to lead the world in safety standards

Not so much anymore
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>>55786003
>>55786425
It cuts down on costs, as usual. Another piece of cable, couple of plugs and a receptacle when they could just have a plug.
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>>55783341
because it's cheaper for one company to make one variant than 2 across all their skus
You almost never see polarized outlets in japan, and travelling with anything that is becomes a pain since you need an adapter to plug it in.
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>>55786639
>You almost never see polarized outlets in japan
I see them everywhere except maybe hotels.
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>>55783341
old homes/apartments are grandfathered i think.
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>>55786639
>almost never see polarized outlets in japan
polarized or grounded?

so many appliances have polarized 2-pin plugs that it's hard for me to imagine things being that shitty.
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>>55782410
master race.

We use those in Chile as well.
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>>55786979
wena culiao
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>>55786989
kesucede
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>>55787081
DO IT NIGGER
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>>55779494
American's aren't this ugly. They all have that classic european downs look to them

and they have no tattoos, can't be american
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>>55785558
It's not.
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>>55786989
>>55787024
>>>/nido/
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>>55781040
>you're not the shower eat to ground
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>Not using the best one
Plebs
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>>55787925
That goes into the toaster though, not into the wall.
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>>55784645
>heat gun (hair dryer on crack)
You mean hair dryer with a weaker fan and smaller nozzle?
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>>55784594
A lot of good that's going to do you as your being beheaded and your daughters raped
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>>55788045
not for much longer :)
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>>55784012
Step 1. plug in.
Step 2. turn on device.
Step 3. touch exposed prongs.
Step 4. PROFIT
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>>55788002
And 10x the price.
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>>55785014
And now they get to learn the Quran.
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>>55788225
nothing would happen you autist
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>>55783130

Eurofag here, I love the UK plug.

Solid, insanely safe and can be (ironically) used as a weapon.
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>>55788225
There is no current flowing through those prongs. On a plug the two prongs are never connected anywhere in the system. Positive and neutral cant ever touch.
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I live in an early 1900's house with no ground, tube and knob wiring, and has 90% of the house on one 15 amp circuit.
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>>55782410
Steve Jobs would love this.
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>>55780125
>all outlets
Even more wrong than the first guy
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>>55783754
Going this far and not shilling thunderbolt? Pathetic attempt
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Switzerland plugs master-race. Space efficient and safe
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>>55788997
>all prongs the same length
Fail.
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I uploaded this OC to Kuvaton five years ago.
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>hurr us doesn't use those plugs
>they're literally everywhere across the US and modern US appliances you import

Am I being rused?
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>>55789112
No, you're just retarded
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>>55789129
I'm retarded because people on here are claiming they're not used, despite them still being widespread?
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>>55789081
Why the fuck do you need different lengths?

If it's about the order in which the pins are connected... that's happening reliably in the socket.

>>55788997
Pic related is even a little more space efficient, we should adapt this one everywhere.
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>>55785224
> Logistical concerns
Not what prevented the introduction of IEC 60906-1. It could have just been produced and introduced.

Politicians who didn't want to be at fault for creating a transition expense on the bills every household did that, people will just be very pissed off over this "useless" transition.

Because people almost all SUCK at long-term investments.
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>>55776958
>>have to put in electric water heater because the gas one was against building code


>Not just doing 2 prong anyway
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>>55789083
>gravity start doing it's job
>everything falls
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>>55789228
My hue plug is really beautiful
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>>55788997
what is that thing?
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>>55780490
>>55789389
Its a screw anon
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>>55788720
For everything that isnt a fridge or dryer the USB type C would be enough for and would allow all devices to be connected to the internet without wireless thus decongesting the available wireless spectrum.
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>>55789389
Screw, not electrically connected. Part of the socket. Remove that and you can get inside.
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Where is your god now?
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>>55776809
>only two plugs
One plug. One piece of metal is anode. The other, cathode. Neither of them are plugs.
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>>55789368
Well, the Swiss and Brazilian plugs are both fine.

But just having the IEC standard everywhere (or the Brazilian one, for all I care) would be a good thing.
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>>55777235
Malta has switches too.

Source: I did my erasmus in Malta
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>>55783804
Those outlets may have been built before that law came into place
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>>55789514
That socket looks like it cant handle many amps.
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>>55789181
No you're retarded for thinking that a plug is a socket
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>>55779494
>>55779218
Even if it went under water, they wouldn't get shocked. You don't know how electricity works because you're a stupid Yuropoor.

That's a European plug, by the way. I kind of like the novelty of what they're doing though.
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>>55789524
I prefer the Brazilian one, I've seen both of them and the BR is almost the same as the IEC 60906-1 but smaller.
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>>55783804
It's illegal to build new homes with them, the millions of old homes out there are a different story, it's not really feasible to force their owners to pay out of pocket for what may be costly electrical overhauls.
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>>55788002
Yes, but a hair dryer isn't going to melt the solder off a circuit board and strip the paint off a chair.
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>>55776958
>have to use electric water heater over gas

sounds like a rort by the electricity companies.
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>>55779810
that's pretty good anon. You should come work for the dept. of public slogans. Lots of job opportunities there right now with the whole australian political scene.
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>anons making fun of switches on sockets

I actually don't understand this. They're very useful. Would you rather unplug the plug or flip a switch. I flip the switch of everything that I'm not using. Someone redpill me on why switches are unironically a bad idea.
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>>55789987
I will use the more conveniently located switch on the power rail or appliance closer to where I am using the device.

Also, I'll actually prefer not having switches on any of the sockets closer to ground level, you easily can accidentally bump against them.

Actually, I pretty much never use the switch on any of the sockets that have a switch - it's pretty useless, yep.
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>>55781040
>you're not the shower eat to ground.

What did you mean by this?
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>>55776660
>Tfw my house is from the 40's and still has these plugs
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>>55790075
where's the power switch on a tv?
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>>55790217
what kind of question is that?

2005-now: button on the side
1980-2005: button on the front
1950-1980: part of the volume knob on the front
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>>55790075
>I will use the more conveniently located switch on the power rail or appliance closer to where I am using the device.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Some things have switches on them, on the cord, some things don't, but if you have a switch on the socket then you ALWAYS have a switch.

Also, if you get a shitty plug that rips the prongs out you don't have to cut the circuit breaker to remove them from the socket.
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>>55785493
Lol its the same fuckin shit you dumb slav.
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>>55789926
Dont euros useelectricity exclusively for heating and cooking?
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>>55790313
>Some things have switches on them, on the cord, some things don't
Other than the microwave and refrigerator, everything in my house has an on/off switch. I can't see any reason to use a switch at the outlet when I can use the switch on the appliance.

>Also, if you get a shitty plug that rips the prongs out you don't have to cut the circuit breaker to remove them from the socket.
What kind of low quality trash are you buying that even the very thought of that happening crosses your mind?
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>>55790383
>What kind of low quality trash are you buying that even the very thought of that happening crosses your mind?
Everything is made in China nowdays senpai.
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>>55790303
My TV got touch buttons on front tho
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>>55790303
>>55790423
Of course the obvious problem here is that those are buttons, not switches, so the device isn't really off, just the display isn't on.
No one knows what it is actually doing when you turn it "off".
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>>55790408
Amazon sells alot of fake cables especially for usb type c and cat 5e. Wouldnt surprise me they sold fake power cables too.
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>>55790408
Just because it's new doesn't mean its better.

>>55790478
You mean phantom power? Most electronics prior to the 90s didn't draw power when turned off.

Personally I bet most people don't want their DVR, smart TV, etc... to take their sweet ass time to start up from a cold boot.
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Plug and Play
PC and ios game
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post lewd plugs
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>>55790542
>You mean phantom power?
No, I mean that most devices with a button rather than a switch can do whatever they want because they are ALWAYS powered.

If we take your computer for example. It doesn't really need the power button, pressing it just sends a signal to the chipset telling it that the button has been pressed and the chipset decides what to do. The chipset can get other signals that will turn the computer on, like if you have the option set to turn on when power is restored then the computer will automatically turn itself on when power is restored after power is lost. You could effectively disconnect the power button and toggle the switch on the PSU or socket to turn the computer on.
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>>55790582
>WelcomeToSilentHill.jpg
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>>55790771
That's still referred to as phantom/vampire power, you dip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standby_power
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>>55785439
Not up to code, you can only have a certain amount of current carrying conductors in a box at a time and they have to be in the box not sticking out of it. Whoever did that would probably lose their license if they were certified and if injury or damage occurred because of it they could be held liable. If it was done by the home owner their insurance probably wouldn't cover any damage that results from it.
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>>55775124
does that actually work?
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>>55790947
It's unsafe af but it should work as long as the outlet is 120vAC
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>>55790582
Lewd
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>>55791017
It's 240V.

It probably works though. Many modern devices can run off of either voltage and frequency. They usually say on the device somewhere what voltages they can accept
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>>55791040
There is a similar animated version that is pretty lewd. I will never find it though because I saw it in my twitter timeline weeks ago.
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>>55780389
That webm needs this music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3rLof2cnzg
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>>55790383
>>
Is this dangerous? The plug is right in my bed
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>>55776809

Sounds like you kiddos need a little lesson on outlets

So there are 3 wires. Hot, neutral, and ground. Hot is the input coming in from a transformer outside. They use a 3 phase power supply and have 5 wires. 3 hot, 1 neutral, and 1 ground. In the US, these 3 hot wires receive 120VAC. But don't think of it as an "input". When referring to DC, I feel it's more appropriate to think of it that way because the electrons are constantly flowing in 1 direction as opposed to AC which is rhythmically throwing these electrons back and forth (at 60HZ). Since there really is no 1 directional flow once the circuit is closed, you can just imagine it as a constantly charged single wire, despite the name differences. They're just reference names.

So the 3 hot wires are getting their power from the power station and the spot they meet up at is called the neutral. At this point they will read 40V because it's at a state of equilibrium. This has a lower resistance so the electricity is drawn back to this point once you plug something in. A single hot wire and a neutral wire will enter the house from the transformer. The unused power from the load is sent back to be 'reused' through this wire.

The ground wire comes into place when there is a short circuit. Meaning the electricity has basically no load, or no resistance, which means higher current. When the current is too high, your circuit breaker should open the circuit and stop the flow. But it takes a little time for the circuit breaker to flip, so if the hot wire somehow managed to make contact with say your dryer, the metal case would now be dangerous to touch. But, since electricity follows the path of least resistance, it will instead follow this earth ground, which is connected from the case to the dirt (and the neutral wire also which is also grounded in the transformer), where the excess energy is dissipated through ions (particles lacking electrons giving them electrical potential) in the ground.
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>>55791325
Forgot pic
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>>55791341

Nah, just make sure it's not being tugged on or comes loose. People might tell you it's not safe but realistically you'll be fine.
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>>55791305
American plugs don't have that problem. They're solid plastic, unlike that piece of shit.
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>>55791305
That fucking ground though.
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>>55791427
On a lot of devices that don't really need ground they put a pin there just so it can open the shutters some outlets have on the hot and neutral.
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>>55791448
Well that's fucking obnoxious.
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Reminder that all these europoor plugs are big and hollow because they used to sell appliances with just bare wires and you had to wire them yourself.

They talk about how superior their plugs are because the ground wire will disconnect last when the cord is yanked out of the plug, but American don't even have that problem.
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>>55784845
I seem to recall that the switches are a holdover from the standards that applied to gas hookups, you had to have a way to make sure the gas was turned off before disconnecting anything.

When people switched from gas lamps to electric, the standard to require a way to turn off the flow at the connection point persisted.
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>>55791576
Actually its more of a side effect of how their houses were wired after WW2, to use less wire after wartime copper shortages they would wire large numbers of outlets in big ring circuits instead of wiring rooms from a central breaker box.

So for safety's sake they made sure all devices were fused in the plug and this is also why they put switches on the outlets.
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>>55791576
Reminder that custom desktops are big and hollow because you have to "wire" them yourself.

/g/ talks about how superior their computers are, but they have tons of problems people with prebuilts and laptops will never have.
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>>55776680
>protects exposed pins in a non-complete insertion..

Or you could just install the current NEMA ones upside-down...

:^)
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>>55777146
Australian ones look so sad
I can't blame them tho I'd be sad if I were in Australia
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>>55779494
10/10
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>>55781383
Switzerland does not use the international standard, it merely adapted most of the features, but it's also an incompatible variant.

In this case, it has existed before the standard which added improvements and practically needed incompatibility as a feature. 'cause how would it have been politically okay if all but one country would have had to switch plugs and sockets...?

No, it's South Africa that does have the standard. As one of many standards, but they do.
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Why aren't there more screw outlets?
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>>55775124
Perfectly safe so long as you only touch the ground or neutral side. Might get a slight dingle off live.
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>>55792414
So this is what is behind these things... cool
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>>55792414
For the same reasons we don't use old cloth covered wiring and generally like outlets grounded now.
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>>55792518
Actually it's not. That pic is of a socket that hasn't been in use for over a century.

You're probably talking about the ones you see on the floor of an office/school/library. That's just a regular outlet.
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>>55792601
I didn't know
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>>55792607
a roomba of electricity
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>>55787389
>American's aren't this ugly.
*this thin.

fixed it for ya.
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>>55788357
hide yo knives, hide yo plugs, the police is comin!
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>>55788090
wut?
nothing changed.
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>tfw my ancient apartment have no grounded outlets except in the kitchen

My pc and everything is on floating ground right now
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>>55790676
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Why don't American sockets have on/off switches?
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>go to america
>try to pull 2.4 kW from the socket
>breaker trips because flimsy low power standard
>go outside to reset it
>get shot
never again
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>>55791576
reminder that britbong plugs are only in Britain.
Most of EU uses Shuko or compatible.
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>>55792414
because that would require you to twist the fuck out of every cable you plug in?
Bayonet - sure, why not. But screw - fuck that shit, leave it for light bulbs.
Also nothing is stopping you from touching live contacts.
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