How do you get work done when it takes light years to even

>>55771240
It doesn't if you upgraded your toaster that wasn't even powerful when you bought it in 2000.

>>55771240
Gentoo installs faster than windows

>>55771255
It takes forever to compile on my 2520M CPU i gave up. Aint nobody got time for that.

>>55771267
Well okay sure, if you aren't going to install any applications like Firefox, Libre office, Xorg.

takes me only 8 hours to get setup and ready to shitpost with maximum comfy.

>>55771285
>Only 8 hours
LOL

>>55771279
None of them come installed with windows as well

>>55771350
Windows at least comes with applications by default. And comes as a usable desktop by default.

>>55771366
Such as?

>>55771240
it's not like if you don't watch at the gcc output it stops compiling

>>55771396
Internet Explorer. Notepad.

>>55771396
You want to list every application that comes with Widows? Why?

>>55771430
>IE
I thought windows user never used that. However midori doesn't take more than 2-3 minutes to compile
>Notepad
Comes with most DEs like lxde

>>55771240
Step 1: Don't use gentoo
Step 2: No problems

>>55771478
Lots of people use IE, just ask any web dev, just the people who use /g/

>>55771478
And how long does it take to compile, then install LXDE on Gentoo? Much longer than installing an alternative browser and word editor I assure you :)

>>55771510
Takes less time than windows updates, I can assure you

>>55771427
This is true. The added output literally makes it go like 4 times slower.

>>55771519
But I thought we were talking about installing??

>>55771527
Because Windows updates during installation

>>55771240
it just werks

>>55771240
How do you say it takes light years when you haven't even installed gentoo?

>>55771537
No it doesn't. Besides doing a full update on Gentoo takes fucking ever.

>>55771544
>startx
>fails

>>55771569
Yes it does.
-Copying windows files
-Expanding windows files
-Installing features
>-Installing updates
-Completing installation
Also,
>Getting critical updates
You just got proven wrong

Furthermore doing a full upgrade on windows is more timesink

>>55771240
>light years
nigga what?

>>55771526
question from a gentoo newfag:
do you /dev/null compilation output, redirect to file or just grep errors and warnings?

At least you've unrolled some loops in the meantime.

>>55771623
Uh what Windows are you talking about? I'm talking about W7. You literally choose how you want to set up Windows Updates during installation. You do not install Windows updates during installation. What the literal fuck are you talking about.

>>55771584
>you forgot to install your gpu driver
it's your fault

>>55771623
>using anything after Windows 7 as an example
wew

>>55771649
Don't get so mad that you forget how to type. Rephrase.

>>55771240
install gentoo

>>55771686
What?

>>55771666
The driver installed during genkernel. Gentoo fucked up

>>55771584
running gentoo for 3 years
startx works literally every time

I only had problems with the X server on a centos system, but that was because i run out of HDD space.
Deleted some shit and it worked again.

>>55771719
>genkernel
that's not how gentoo is supposed to be used
just take a little time to learn how to configure the kernel anon, it's useful shit

>>55771790
Useful how?

>>55771704
Holy shit, this is the best fucking discussion I've ever seen on /g/

>>55771907
Que?

>>55771719
The handbook recommends manual configuration

>>55771240
>Installed Gentoo
>took 1 hour to compile Firefox
>spent 3 hours compiling GNOME 3
>fuck this
>never finished compiling GNOME 3, just shut the computer off and reinstalled Arch

>>55771932
You have to research every single freaking option in kernel config, and if you forget a single thing you're fucked.

>>55771478
>>55771510
you tooookkkkkkkkkkkk the baaaaaaaaaaiiiitttttttttttttttttt
newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
faaaaaaggggggggggggggggggsssssssssss

>>55771876
knowing your hardware and which software it requires to work, experiment with new features, take every single cycle your cpu can give you using the best kernel in the world
if you are not interested in this why are you in a technology board?
to show your wallpaper?

once i compiled a program in ubuntu 9.04 when it was my only OS. no idea how i did it. never tried again.

>>55771968
actually no
the hardest are drivers. I only had trouble finding my Ethernet driver because the driver my ethernet use it's actually for another, and mine isn't listed as supported, but it werks (is the same in ubuntu and other distros as it loads the same module)

>>55771255
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>>55771932

Install Windows you fucktards, it's the best OS and that's a fact of life you fucking losers.

>>55771240
My full-time job is keeping my Gentoo install bleeding edge. Welfare checks pay for everything else.

@55772034
Low quality bait, no (you)

>>55771240
linux users getting work done.

that's a good one.

>>55772043
>living the dream
I envy you anon

>>55772058
Fuck off m80, I use Ubuntu at my job.

>>55772034
bite me

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@5772053

lol wut a newfg noob
go back to redit

>>55772058
>he works using microsoft office
what a great job you have kid, have fun smashing buttons
>muh professional

>>55772083
>Ubuntu
>m80
>job

GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55772121
oops wrong board

>>55782095
lol what a salty cuckold. Still no (you) for you

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>>55771240
Light years is a measurement of distance not time.

>>55772058
I remember a friend of my father (his friend is a programmer) using ubuntu and windows 7 in his job
and no, he didn't use ubuntu just for the job because he helped me once when i used ubuntu

oh sorry, i forgot, you are a pajeet paid by microsoft and you just ignore the fact that people make money with linux

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>>55772158

>>55772240
Dumb winbabby project their inability to use a computer without his babbycare OS onto others.

>>55771240
>light years
wow this is bait

>>55771240
>light years
That's a measurement of length, not time.

>>55772884
Lol retard

>>55772891
Ummmm, you're the retard actually.

>>55772898
*bulks up to you* No. You are.

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>>55772158
He doesn't know what a random number is.

What are the benefits in using gentoo over debian esting fo example?

>>55773192
Control over which features are in your software

I only compile xorg once every month at absolute most. Usually less often. I sync the portage tree, setup a small cron script to sleep the computer when the emerge process is done, kick off the compilation and go to bed. When I wake up I run revdep-rebuild and remove the unneeded deps while I wake up with my morning coffee, and repeat this about 4-5 weeks later.

>>55771293
That means you set it up once in your lifetime and make a stage4 tarball and you be set for life.

>>55772984
Randomness is impossible

>>55773287
umm >>>/b/

>>55773220
Why not have every feature? It seems nonsensical to manually and enable certain features.

>>55773220
This, I have a perfectly working system without gstreamer, systemd, pulseaudio thanks to useflags. isn't for everyone though. don't even think about it if you don't have at least 3 days of free time, or you don't work in the field so you can install it in a matter of hours.

>>55773298
I'm fine here, thanks.

You should compile in ram anyway if you have 16GB+ you can compile even chromium in ram

>>55773316
Just go with arch or something else, debian is controlled by SJWs now

>>55773342
>16 GiB
Nice meme

>>55773316
A few reasons:
For embedded development where size matters, and also from a security standpoint the more features you have in a software, the more vectors of attack there are. If you leave out support for things you'll never use you'll ideally be more secure.

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>>55773354
>Debian is controlled by SJWs now
Okay great. How does someone's political view directly impact the quality of the product?

>>55773362
Size doesn't always matter :)

>>55773316
Security, stability, size control and personal knowledge. Having the minimum number of possible attack vectors on your system is important when opening ports to the internet or doing development work. Debian has hardened sources, however Gentoo also does while still offering manual control over your personal applications.

>>55773380
See: Firefox

>>55773414
What about Firefox?

>>55773426
ruined by SJWs

>>55773431
How?

>>55773414
>>55773426
memes, firefox is fine with the right addons, vanilla was always shit

>>55773380
Yes, debian is controlled by SJWs now, this is a fact and is reflected by how you didn't deny it.

SJWs are mindless sheep, they will gravitate towards anything trending without even thinking about it. I could go on and on but it doesn't matter if you just won't listen.

>>55773368
>give examples
>prove the examples were wrongly given
>post le memes
damage control

>>55773445
I'm listening, you aren't giving examples how Debian is bad now. All your doing is whinning about muhhh SJW.

>>55773426
Idiots are butthurt about every change to Firefox since Australis, and also Brendan Eich got booted from his own company by SJWs so everything Mozilla does is their fault somehow.

>>55773354
arch has outdated packages that are not in aur, and aur has suspicious packages.

>>55773468
Debian isn't bad, but you would probably like to avoid it because there's a lot of SJWs running the show now. Just move to something more 4chan-friendly like Arch or Kali.

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>>55773354
>>55773508
>arch

>>>/r/unixporn

>>55773508
I don't care about peoples political ideologies. If Debian works, which it does, that's fine with me.

>>55773521
Then why are you even having this discussion, moron?

>>55773449
How were they wrongly given? You didn't prove shit.

>>55773535
Because those programs do not come with default windows installation

>>55773534
Try reading the thread before you post next time.

>>55773544
And what does have to do with the original argument you fucking mongoloid? Do I really need to hold your hand like this?

>>55773534
Delete your account.

>>55773549
You asked what the benefits of using Gentoo over Debian would be. I personally gave you a few technical reasons you might want to choose Gentoo, and another guy gave you a philosophical reason.

Not really sure why you're so mad, this is 4chan. You will usually get good answers mixed in with troll answers. If you can't filter it out maybe this isn't the right websight for you.

>>55773521
I guess you're either a SJW yourself or you haven't experienced what SJWs really are to the point to wanting to boycott anything related to them
Either way I don't care use the shit what werks for you

>>55773553
That's because I was given those examples you dumbshit cocksucker. Take your lack of reading comprehension and fuck off

>>55773468
>>55773521
>Le I'm listening
>Le I don't care
faggot, go back to your safe place

>>55773604
this

>>55773590
>didn't answer the question
YOU're the one who's lacking comprehension. Delete yourself immediately. Why don't you just admit what you said had fuck all to do with his original post?

>>55773604
You literally haven't listed a single thing, not one, wrong with Debian as a result of "SJWs". I'll give you another chance but things aren't looking good for you.

>>55773611
>N-No you
>Go away waaaaa
wow is this how you respond when you feel cornered, you mouth breathing fucktard? Last you for (you) today

>>55773604
Yeah I don't care about SJWs, yet you seem to get so #triggered by them. Embarrassing.

>>55773623
You can answer my question anytime, halfwit

>>55773616
>impying /g/ is here to impress you
Either research this shit on your own, or stop passively baiting/trolling.

>>55773639
Funny how hardcore SJWs and hardcore anti-SJWs both seem to have this idea that it's somehow wrong to use good products made by "bad" people.

782e9bf25222aabe

>>55773521
>>55773639
This: >>55773683
They will suddenly care about politics if the author was someone they didn't like even if their shit works.
But highly polarized groups like SJW or the KKK are like that.

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>its a Jordan gets BTFO thread

>>55773745
>a
another*

>>55773623
>projecting

>>55772095
>>55772158
He's the greatest combination of /g/ and /pol/ that will ever live.

>>55773738
implying there's anything wrong the KKK

>>55772984
>2, 4, 6, 8
>I SEE A PATTERN

Stupid MIT niggers.

>>55773866
They're a Christian organization.
God isn't even real lmao

>>55771240
You can start by learning that lightyear is a measure of distance.

>>55771240
Took me 9-10 min on a p4. And Xserver updates almost never so you do it only once.

>>55773745
lol where did I get btfo exactly?
My last argument has yet to garner a single (You)

>>55773892
Who cares? Any reason for lynching animals is a good reason.

>>55771240
You don't compile it everytime you boot up dumbass

>>55771240
the question is not how, but why. once you have your why you find your how.

>>55771240
#YOCO
You Only Compile Once

>>55771968
So you boot off of a live DVD/CD, and if your shit works, copy the config file (/proc/config.gz) and use it for your initial kernel build. I use genkernel, but have it call up the configuration tree for the kernel so I can tweak it if need be.

My longest compile time was 45 minutes and that was xorg-server, openbox, and everything else I need. Portage is the best Ports-like system out there. "Oh no! My updates take three whole minutes!" Quit being fucking retards.

>>55773745
Who the fuck is this Jordan faggot?

>>55777417
It's me, dude.

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>>55771790
>not just using genkernel --menuconfig

do you like wasting time

>>55777437
He is using Gentoo.

>>55771240

xorg-server: Sun Jul  1 13:36:44 2012: 1 minute, 27 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Jul  1 14:06:29 2012: 1 minute, 30 seconds
xorg-server: Thu Jul  5 13:43:22 2012: 1 minute, 25 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Dec  2 14:36:40 2012: 1 minute, 9 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Dec  2 16:40:29 2012: 1 minute, 26 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Feb 10 13:00:53 2013: 2 minutes, 52 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Feb 11 21:25:30 2013: 2 minutes, 9 seconds
xorg-server: Thu Mar 28 01:15:28 2013: 1 minute, 3 seconds
xorg-server: Thu Oct  3 15:05:30 2013: 5 minutes, 57 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Dec  8 19:45:40 2013: 6 minutes, 48 seconds
xorg-server: Thu Dec 19 04:22:09 2013: 5 minutes, 11 seconds
xorg-server: Fri Apr 11 03:09:54 2014: 2 minutes, 10 seconds
xorg-server: Tue Apr 15 05:16:58 2014: 2 minutes, 2 seconds
xorg-server: Wed Oct 29 02:34:35 2014: 1 minute, 3 seconds
xorg-server: Wed Oct 29 09:16:39 2014: 1 minute, 15 seconds
xorg-server: Thu Oct 30 03:16:44 2014: 1 minute, 13 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Dec  1 06:54:36 2014: 1 minute, 48 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Dec  1 06:57:21 2014: 51 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Dec  1 07:09:17 2014: 51 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Jan 18 01:30:51 2015: 52 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Jan 18 01:54:38 2015: 2 minutes, 1 second
xorg-server: Sun Jan 18 02:42:24 2015: 1 minute, 15 seconds
xorg-server: Fri Feb 13 11:31:44 2015: 48 seconds
xorg-server: Sat Feb 14 16:39:36 2015: 48 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Jul 13 02:36:11 2015: 1 minute, 17 seconds
xorg-server: Fri Jul 31 08:25:45 2015: 1 minute, 20 seconds
xorg-server: Fri Aug  7 22:56:32 2015: 1 minute, 0 seconds
xorg-server: Sun Aug  9 01:46:14 2015: 1 minute, 5 seconds
xorg-server: Tue Mar 29 05:42:59 2016: 2 minutes, 15 seconds
xorg-server: Mon May  2 09:20:37 2016: 2 minutes, 55 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Jun 13 22:40:52 2016: 5 minutes, 20 seconds
xorg-server: Tue Jun 14 00:31:27 2016: 2 minutes, 18 seconds
xorg-server: Mon Jul  4 06:01:15 2016: 1 minute, 58 seconds
xorg-server: 33 times

>>55777457
Also, you might not yet be aware of this but modern operating systems are capable of running multiple processes at the same time.

So you could compile xorg and watch your chink cartoons (i.e. “work”) at the same time.

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>>55771293
Takes a bout the same time to get a full windows install done with all drivers and updates from a clean oem disk.
Step it up nigga

>>55771646

EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --ask-enter-invalid --keep-going=y --quiet-unmerge-warn --quiet-build=y --quiet-fail=y --jobs=5 --load-average=3 --tree"

I can highly recommend trying out these options to any gentoo newcomer

>>55777457
How exactly are you gonna watch a movie without x server running?

>>55777523
By using the previous version of xorg-server which I already have installed and running?

>>55771240
Maybe because it takes only centimeters for Windows to be hit with a compatibility issue?

>>55777520
>all those quiet options

Real gentoomen use emerge in full verbose.

light year is a unit for distance, not time you brain dead moron

>>>/4thgrade/

>>55771240
light years is a measurement of distance, faggot; not of time

>>55771240
If you don't want to compile shit, install the -bin version and call it a day. Otherwise, do it overnight, and, well... call it a night.
Ok, that one was genuinely bad.

It only takes long if you choose full a full DE and use genkernel all. X doesnt take long and then i got the awesomeWM. Then i can emerge other stuff conveniently in the one of the urxvt tabs.

>>55771366
Yeah that's a con in my eyes, I don't want the junk they ship with their mess of an operating system.

>>55771790
B-but I want to learn how to configure the kernel Anon
But I don't know where to find good resources to learn

I downloaded, compiled, and installed X last week in 2 minutes on Gentoo on a shit-top. These memes are retarded.

>>55779136
I should note that my internet is Pajeet tier and around half of that was downloading.

>>55778875
su
make nconfig
enable stuff that makes your hardware work
enable the filesystems you're gonna need
on Gentoo, make sure you use OpenRC because systemd is homosexual
This is all I do.

>>55771240
>when it takes light years
You're a retard

>>55771957
Stay dumb arch fag!

>>55771968
Nope. Just config the kernel so you have basic usability then you can then do the rest you go, adding and removing bus as and when you need. You can reconfigure your kernel as much as you like.

>>55772032
lspci -k

>>55772034
Mmmmm bill gates' Willy in your bum bum

>>55779406
Stay mad gentoo NEET

>>55777520
thanks anon

>>55778875
boot a live cd using the same kernel version, then execute lspci -k, it gives you all the kernel modules your hardware is using, annotate the names of the drivers and include them in menuconfig, you can search inside it if you feel lost inside all the options
if you have problems use your search engine to find more informations
you can even modify directly the .config file if you feel confident enough

>>55773414
>>55773426
Firefox is still the least shitty. The rest are either proprietary like chrome, lack extensions like majority of the FOSS browsers, or cannot be trusted like chromium.

>>55771240
A light year is a measurement of distance, not time dipshit

>>55777417
one of /g/ resident faggots.
if you don't want to join him in his cocksucking you can filter him
please do

>>55779458
tfw when I'm on my way home from work.

>>55771240
>light years

that's a unit for distance

>>55772034
:s/Windows/Arch Linux/

>have gentoo
>for some strange fucking reason the KVM is not working on it
>fuck my life

>>55784331
>have Gentoo
>KVM just werks

>not using mint
pah!

>>55777497
Uhm nope? Takes 2 hours maybe

>>55777437
You have both options.
When I installed the first time I went with manual configuration because I had time and I was curious, the only driver I forgot was my Ethernet driver, lost two hours by doing that.

from there on I just set the default options for newer versions of linux.