Graphics Card Discussion Thread

GTX 80s always end up in a weird spot cuz they're mid-high priced and always get made obsolete by the tier above them. 1080ti/1090 not coming out soon, but you know it will eventually.

I'd get 1070 and maybe upgrade later if you want. Wouldn't pay 600+ for 1080 when the next release will prolly just be slightly more expensive.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

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EVGA ACX 3.0 is an amazing cooler. Quiet as fuck and keeps card cool. So much better than their 2.0 coolers.

I just got a 1070 FTW.
+110 on clocks
+250 memory
+20% volt
Stock aggressive fan profile that I couldn't hear.
Never got above 59C under load.

Ima play around with it more to see what all I can get stable

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>>55768854
Who /waiting for RX 470/ here
>10% lower performance than a 480
>$150 for the 4 GB(which is what you'll want anyway)
>perfect for 1080/60 gaming

>>55768991

Couldn't hear w/aggressive profile or couldn't hear with normal?

>>55768991
>Never above 59C full load

What did you do that you considered full load? Because I have serious doubts that it's that cool unless you're calling 1080 gaming full load.

>>55769072
>perfect for 1080p/60 gaming

yeah, you can run any game 1080p/60, but you'll have to turn down some settings for some of the more demanding games like the witcher 3. I'm waiting for the gtx 1060 to be in stock so i can max everything out and hit 60.

Which is better, gtx 1060 or RX 480

>>55769242
I don't care as long as I can run Overwatch and heavily modded Skyrim at absurd settings.

>tfw have to run overwatch at 50% render scale and 1600x900 to even hit 60 FPS, let alone stay at 60
it hurts

Skyrim is a bit better, I hit about 30-40 FPS with medium-high settings but I'd like to use some xXultra HD 16k textures and shit

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What is a better card under 60$ that can replace my old gt 220?

>>55769242

Firestrike and heaven benchmark.

76c top temp with stock fan curve that turns on around 60c
59c top temp with aggressive fan curve

>>55768854
>Nvidia
Does Newegg offers the card + power transformers combos?

>>55769254
gtx 1060 is better across the board except for performance per dollar.

>>55769254
They're both practically the same except for some autistic 0.5 FPS difference in some cases, so I'm going for the 480 because it has 2GB more RAM.

>>55769322
In my country they both costs same.

>>55769352
well then the 1060 is better, it runs cooler, quieter and draws a little less power, and if you have a dvi port, it has one while the 480 does not.

>>55769289
Anything

Planning to buy a RX480 too, but I heard that it has some kind of power problem. Are these problems serious or they released some kind of patch? Btw, what pcie type does this card use?

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>>55768854
I currently have a 280x and I really want to upgrade. RX 480 or GTX 1070?

>>55769483
The power problem wasn't anything severe, and it got solved with a driver update anyway. PCIe 2.0 is fine(which is what you should have if you bought a mobo in the last 5 years at least)

>>55768991
Serious doubts about that.

Just with 2 mins into witcher 3 Im at 60 celsius

>>55769618
those are 2 wildly differently performing cards, do you mean 1060?

>>55769645

What kinda fan curve? I went with aggressive one. It's also hot here so my central air is full blast. 26C idle.

>>55769289
r7 240 at 60$ i guess, consider saving up and getting a graphics card with more power behind it.

>>55769618
depends on what you are using the card for, rx 480 is a 1080p and in most cases, you will be able to make constant 60fps. gtx 1070 is too powerful to compare to the 480, it's a powerful 1440p card and unstoppable at 1080p.

>>55769618

1070 is much better and much more expensive. So it if it fits your budget.

Im looking into a new gpu aswell and Im somewhat torn between the 1060 (readily available custom designs here in germany) and the rx 480 (same price, more vram, still gotta wait for the nitro). I might also just say fuck it and buy the 1070 although I dont really like the custom versions and its overkill for 1080p ultrawide right?

>>55768854
> he doesn't know about the 1080ti

/490 to upgrade from my 290/

>>55768991
>So much better than their 2.0 coolers.
How? Their ACX 3.0 is just a 2.0 with more plastic and gimmicks. The fan designs are basically unchanged and their heatpipe arrangement is still sub-optimal for actively cooling VRMs and other non-GPU heat-sensitive components.

>>55770390

Maybe my 2.0 had bad fans, but the 3.0 is quiet as fuck. I can't hear it under load. I definitely heard the acx 2.0 card I had

>>55768854

what kind of manchild designer thinks that slapping shit like "classified" on an incredibly expensive, high end, gpu is a good idea? and why is it always red and black

Just get like 20 RX 480s

>>55770462

Red equates to more speed and blue equates to lower temps. How fucking new are you to GPUs breh?

>>55770456
It's the first gen ACX that had bad fans. The 2.0 fixed all of those problems and is quieter than the Sapphire Tri-X card I had for my 280X.

>>55770482

i've bought exactly one, ever. and it was a massive pain finding one that didn't look like it was designed for someone that also owns an anime body pillow.

>>55770498

Well maybe mine were bad. They weren't loud but I could easily hear them under load. My case, air 540, not known for being quiet and sitting right beside it I can't hear my 1070 at all.

Either way, I'm very impressed with the cooler.

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>>55770527

>implying there's anything wrong with anime body pillows

>>55770353

This confirmed? I know it'll eventually come, but hadn't heard any official news.

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>not using an eGPU

>>55770578
It's not. The Titan X (no, not the old one) is a gimped GPU, not the full GP102. There won't be a 1080Ti because Jewery and the performance will be too close to the 1080 if they gimp the GP102 any further.

>>55770626

If you're gonna connect a mechanical keyboard and an external GPU, what's the point of even buying a laptop?

>>55770645
For computing on the go/work.

Is it true that AMD cards perform worse relative to Nvidia cards on CPU's weaker than the i7?

Pic related but I don't know how much it applies to most (modernish) games.

>>55770626
>needing to buy an adapter AND a separate PSU on top of the card itself
Do you enjoy licking fresh cum from your mother's pussy after Jamal has his way with her?

>>55770670
Yes, taking into account the whole setup was less than $200, my cock gobbling friend.

I don't get how sound bothers people so much. The only thing I've ever heard that was actually loud enough to be annoying were Delta fans. Windforce cards at 100% for example never bothered me.

i bought this because my evga 560ti died sunday
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091

did i fuck myself

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>>55770668
forgot pic

>>55770668
yes, in cpu intensive games dx11. it also applies to dx12 where amd cards won't get some massive 50% boost you see with an i7.

http://pclab.pl/art60000-21.html

>>55769242
Even the 1060 cant max all current games at 1080p.

Which will be better: 1080 Ti or Titan XP

>>55770719
This blows my mind. I should have looked this up or known about it years ago, but comparing $200 GPU's on a $300+ CPU is misleading as fuck given how much it helps AMD. Most people will be using shittier CPU's.

I have an i5 and this makes the 1060 much more appealing over an RX 480.

>>55770776
the reason all benchmarks sites use the latest i7's is to remove any a cpu bottleneck so people can see the full potential of the gpu. it isn't realistic though. even a 2500 at 2.6 ghz bottlenecks amd gpu in dx11.

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>>55770846
2500k*

and forgot pic

>>55770748
There will be no 1080 Ti, not for a while at least.
The X80 Ti are the swan-songs of the architecture. If Volta comes out in 2018, expect a Ti card at least 9 months ahead of its launch.

>>55770748
>>55770870

Even if there is, it won't be big pascal. There will be zero GP100 consumer market GPUs.

1080 is as good as it's gonna get for awhile.

Maxwell is such a fuckin disappointment.

>>55768854
Really like my Gigabyte FE 1070. Haven't had any problems with heat but it's winter here.
Only issue is I need to upgrade my CPU, got a [email protected] and it does the job but it lags behind sometimes.

>>55770701
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091
Yes, very painfully in the ass.

>>55770916
Meant pascal

>>55770846
Yea I understand the reasoning behind it and it makes sense, it's just that ignorant people like me don't realize how much of a bottleneck the i5's or worse can actually be. People just see the numbers and assume they would scale down equally on a build with a worse CPU (at least that's what I did).

I wonder if anyone's done a price/perf comparison between cards like the RX 480 or the 1060 on "budget" builds, AKA builds using $230 i5's instead of $350 i7's.

I've seen this brought up lately on /g/ but never before that. Has it always been this way? This is a non-trivial change to the lower/middle end competition.

>>55770951
meh oh well. you live and learn.

>>55770701
You should have gotten an RX 480 or GTX 1060, so yea you kind of fucked yourself.

>>55771065
i didnt know if my cpu would bottleneck it =/

>>55771125
It probably would but the 480 would still vastly outperform the 960 for example.

>>55771125
you could have kept it until you upgraded to a better CPU
doesn't even matter, it's not like you would get worse performance than a 960
jesus christ anon you should be able to figure this out by yourself

>>55769254
1060 faster now due to superior DX11 drivers.

480 faster in the future due to +2GB VRAM and superior implementation of DX12/Vulkan async compute.

>>55770708
Crysis 3 highly favours nVidia cards with massive tesselation (shit AMD sucks at)

>tfw either getting a 4gb RX 480 and no VR headset, or an 8gb one with a VR headset

still have a few weeks to make my mind up, hopefully stock is there for when i'm ready

>>55771241
8gb ram is useless on 1080p though.

>>55768854

I'm not buying either, they aren't that much better than a 980ti for the cost of upgrading

>>55771358
It's not though. Were you brain damaged as a kid?

>>55771414
not him but you're deluded. tell me of any game that fails to run at high/ultra settings on cards without 8gb

>inb4 mirrors edge

>>55771308

>either getting a gpu or getting a better gpu with a vr headset

why is this even a decision? are you dumb?

>>55771491
it's a question of whether i want to go on a trip later in the year or the tech now.

Since Friday I keep getting ___ driver has stopped working but has responded again plus freezing my whole screen and finally rebooting my computer randomly

I've tried everything from wiping the drive to using Windows 7 again to downgrading my driver's to updating them

Wat do gee

For the record it's a 560 ti and the computer says it's healthy

i want a 480

idk if i should get the nitro+ 4gb or 8gb but also what is the nitro+ OC edition? i can't find it on amazon

>>55770668
>>55770708
>>55770719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmQvGBMESa8&

this vid seems to indicate that any i5 from the past 4-5 years is just fine

>>55769072
I'm waiting for the 470. If it's not where I want it then I'm probably going to get a 480. I just need something to hold me over for a few years.

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>>55771726
holy shit i've never seen a more retarded hardware youtuber. not even adoredtv is this stupid

>wants to test for potential cpu bottlenecks
>tests gpu intensive games except one

gta 5 was the only cpu intensive game there and look at the massive difference between the cpu's. theres a 10-20 fps difference between the i7 and the others with the minimums being fucking terrible.

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>>55771487
mirrors edge.
you triggered?

Play some GTA 5 and you'll put your dick where ur mouth is and cuck yourself.

You think 4 gb is enough then you're obviously fucking yourself.

pic unrelated but who cares

>>55771934
idk. if we compare the 6700 and the 3550, the average is the same and that's the most important part. a 33 fps min is bad but, when, you think about it, a short little frame dip is always going to be jarring, whether that frame dip is 33fps or 45 fps. the only context in which i'd be worried about that i5-3550's min is if it was having many more frame drops than the 6700. but with a 70.66 average fps that is probably not the case.

>>55771641
Someone pls help im so lost

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>>55771972
>mirrors edge

>he doesn't know hyper settings is only made specifically for the gtx 1070/1080

http://www.geforce.co.uk/whats-new/articles/mirrors-edge-catalyst-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-hyper-settings

>On the PC graphical fidelity will of course be enhanced, but for this latest release DICE has taken things to a new level, having been inspired by the power of our new GeForce GTX 1080 and 1070 graphics cards.

>Making full use of their blistering performance, and 8GB framebuffer, DICE is able to dramatically increase environmental detail and shadow quality, and further improve the quality of reflections, visual effects, environmental maps, image based lighting, motion blur, and Resolution Scale’s downsampling. Classed as “Hyper” settings, these enhancements enable users to explore a richer, more detailed Glass City on the very best PCs and graphics cards, delivering the definitive Mirror’s Edge Catalyst experience.

>gta 5

so you're claiming the game won't start up if i don't have 8gb vram? got any proof of that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6MDUjFiUR4 (4gb)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPQwmU_Rvs (2gb)

even the 970 gimp card runs perfectly fine. are you calling this evidence and all the other thousands of videos showing 4gb and 2gb video cards running this game perfectly fine a lie?

http://www.techspot.com/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/page5.html

>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn’t consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference.
>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data.

>>55770578
>>55770639
There's ALWAYS a TI you morons. Atleast one for the flagship and probably one for the budget card.

So im going to get a 1060 or 480, does the brand(sapphire,gigabyte,etc) matter? are there any to avoid? Also is it worth shelling out extra for a card with custom cooling?

>>55772404
in the end, they're all very similar but sapphire is generally considered the better AMD brand and EVGA is considered the better NVIDIA brand.

i would say this: whatever you get, make sure it's under $300. i'm seeing a lot of 1060s and 480s selling for $280, $290, $300, $310 and it's a bad price creep. try to stick to the $250 MSRP as close to possible while still getting a custom cooler.

Guys I bough 100 amd shares at 1.8$ the price currently is ~7$, pe share. If I sell now I can get around 450 in cash (commision, tax etc)
What gfx should I buy with my profits? Should I go for amd or nvidia? I am leaning towards 1070, or should I go for 1080?

>nintendo nx is using nvidia pascal mobile gpu

where are the retards who were saying amd own all the consoles? the only relevant console is using nvidia. check mate drones.

>>55772440
>EVGA is considered the better NVIDIA brand
lol no

>>55772475
then what is?

>>55771972
Mirror's Edge received a few game updates, the game runs fine at Hyper settings on 4GB cards now, including the 970 and the Fury X without having to check that memory setting that downgrades visual setting on the fly.

>>55772474
well, the gamecube, wii, and wii-u all used AMD so people assumed the NX would as well

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>>55768991
i can get higher scores than you if i overclock lol

>>55772475
yes it is, stop talking shit. the evga SC cards are probably the best bang for buck nvidia cards. they're on par or better than more expensive gigabyte G1 or msi gaming X cards.

>>55772474
>only relevant console is using nvidia

Since when did Nintendo matter for multiplats? Only thing they're good for is 1st party titles.

>>55772543
>Only thing they're good for is 1st party titles.

hence why it's the only relevant console. you won't be browsing this thread if you thought the other multiplat oriented consoles are relevant.

pc for multiplats + ninendo console for 1st party exclusives is the only choice.

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>>55772440
>tfw both 480 and 1060 are over $300 in Canada
I'll never be happy...

>>55772571
Did you forget you're on /g/? No one cares about consoles here. Go away.

>>55772571
Are you this dense or did you not realize the whole point about caring about AMD in consoles is that games would be more optimized for GCN on PC

>>55772608
are you this dense or did you not realize the nintendo NX's relevance isn't based on whether it has amd or nvidia gpu?

>i-i'm not going t-to buy it because n-nvidia won the c-contract

go and be a retarded shill elsewhere.

>>55772645
Is this what fanboyism does to you? I was never going to buy a NX in the first place. You still don't seem to get the point why people here cared about AMD being in consoles. NX isn't going to be relevant in multiplats so it doesn't matter what they go with. If they were smart they'd go with AMD just to get more 3rd party support though.

>>55772675
well it clearly isn't helping amd. nvidia still get the majority of triple A, goty contender, big budget titles like witcher, fallout or tomb raider. and they all run better on nvidia hardware. as long as nvidia have the budget and market share to sponsor these games then amd's console advantage means fuck all. money talks and these devs aren't going to spend an extra month optimizing for gcn and for a userbase which only makes up only 20% of the whole market.

>>55768854
If you're thinking about "bang for buck" cards you should never consider Nvidia period.

Nvidia is for rich fols/annoying kids with rich parents.

Serious matura people go for AMD.

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>>55772474
It's not Pascal, it's the X1 chip, Maxwell based

No clue why either, Nvidias mobile stuff is shit
X1 has a 15w TDP, config of 256 shader, 16 TMU, 16 ROP, 1ghz. bL 4xA57, 4xA53, 1.9ghz

FX9800P has a 15w TDP, config of 512 shader, 32 TMU, 8 ROP, 758mhz. 4x Excavator, 2.7ghz to 3.6ghz

A57's are weaker in IPC compared to Excavator as well. A53's are meant for idling or UI tasks.

FX9800P already selling in multiple tablets and netbooks as well, it's only been out a short time.

X1's from March of last year, only things it's in is the Pixel C, and I've never actually seen anyone buy one. That and that weird TV box Nvidia put out, never seen anyone with that either.

>>55772754
>userbase which only makes up only 20% of the whole market.

With consoles AMD has majority marketshare which is what seems to go over your head. Not saying this plan will work out either. Just letting you know that your posts just reek /v/ since you clearly have no idea why people cared like you thought it was some console war thing.

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So as typical with Nvidia, the x60, x70, and whatever is between the x80 and Titan will be the best buys?

Seems like x80 and Titan owners always get cucked.

>>55772754
AMD has 30% by sales (Q1), 40% by install base

baka desu senpai

>>55772800
The problem last gen was their 60 card was cucked with 128 bit bus, and their 70 card was cucked with 3.5gb

>>55768854
>1070 better bang for your buck than a 1080?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_X/26.html

>>55772819

Even with that, they were good buys for the price. On the flipside, the 980 and that Titan were terrible buys.

But 750ti and 980ti were the big successes from Maxwell.

>>55772783
My guess would be ARM, Nintendo was always on CISC and transaction from Power to ARM shouldn't be as drastic as from Power to x86.

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>Implying you can buy a 1080 even if you can afford it

>>55772878

Newegg has regularly been getting them in stock. They don't take long to sell out, but if you want one and watch for it, you'll get it.

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>>55772835
>960 4% faster than rebranded 7870
>970 equal with original 290
ok

>>55772835
> the 980 and that Titan were terrible buys.

Really want the 1080 but this is what's holding me back. Would 1070 SLI be a dumb idea?

>>55772888
Yes 10 GPU's a day is technically a regular cycle.

>>55768854
When did /g/ abandon amd.

I'm getting great framerates on the rx 480 @ 1080P

Fug u guys

>>55772937
>When did /g/ abandon amd

Linux driver

>>55772794
you are deluded. as i've already mentioned, their console advantage means fuck all since pc sponsorships exist. as long as nvidia sponsors the majority of triple A titles (which they currently do), amd have nothing on them.

also the console space should never be compared with the pc space. you're saying stuff like amd owns the majority of the console market share (in units sold i assume) yet i can say that there are more nvidia ps3's sold than both the xbox one and ps4 put together.

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>>55772937
>When did /g/ abandon amd.

>>55772900
>390 cheaper and faster than a 480

tell me again why people are stupid enough to buy the 480? the 390 also gains more in dx12.

>>55772916

I'd prolly buy a FTW or Classified 1080 and OC to hell before SLI'ing 1070s, but that's just me personally. And either way I went, I'd Ebay em the day before the 1080ti launches (assuming it's gonna be a great buy).

That's just my personal preference. I haven't even looked into how well the 1070s SLI.

>>55772963
power consumption and its newer

>>55772963
Because it uses around 80 watts less power?

Also the RX480 performance is probably just driver related. On a theoretical basis it should be around the 390X, and they claimed large IPC increases.

I wouldn't be surprised if something like the 7970 miracle patch happens where they just get a straight 20% boost in one driver update.

>>55772973
I guess you haven't heard that even the Classifieds are getting mediocre clocks. All the FEs are getting higher OCs. They aren't worth the extra at all.

I plan to sell before the 1080 Ti hits but I really want to run 4k now.

>>55772960
isn't 8gb/s on the memory incredibly slow?

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How are the msi amd cards? should I wait for that one or go for the 480 nitro? (although I heard this one had high temps and loud fan) or just get a 1060 (none avalible but those mini oness show up every now and then, do they preform the same as the longer cards? that single fan has me worried...)

>>55772952
>you are deluded. as i've already mentioned, their console advantage means fuck all since pc sponsorships exist.

I guess you're illiterate as I never said their plan would work. How many times do I need to repeat myself here? The console relevance is only for GCN optimization. Just go back to /v/ already.

>>55773036
Same as on the 1060 and 1070. Not to be confused with throughput which is 256gb/s on the 1070 or 196gb/s on the 1060.

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I'm happy with my 1070

>>55773067

MSI typically make good cards, but those who stay away stay away cuz their customer service is beyond shit tier. If you get a funky card that needs replaced, good luck dealing with them. It's also why most ppl lean EVGA since their customer service is as godly as MSI's is bad.

But if you buy from reputable seller like Amazon or Newegg you're alright either way, cuz they will be the ones you deal with.

>>55773033

Had not heard, but am surprised to hear that the Classys aren't getting great OCs. With added power, what is holding them back?

>>55773164
>tfw didn't fell for thr anti-zotac shilling and grabbed a 1070 AMP for $399

feels pretty good i'd say

>>55773206
I guess it's just what the average chip caps at. No idea otherwise. Also pretty sure it means Nvidia is binning FEs despite them saying otherwise.

>>55773230

I've owned so many video cards but never bought a Zotac. I don't know why but I associate them with being cheap and shitty. And would rather pay an extra 10 dollars for someone I trust.

But the more I hang around on /g/ the more I'm warming up to them cuz pretty much everyone who buys says they're great.

>bought 7870 for 250 AUD 4 (F O U R) years ago
>best card you can buy for 250 AUD today is an R9-380 which is barely 25% faster

Can someone explain this absolutely epic meme to me? I tried looking it up on knowyourmeme.com but there doesn't seem to be any entry for it.

>>55772764
AMDfags salty.

>>55773294
TSMC dicked up 20nm and the 16nm cards aren't fully out yet.

>>55773263
It's my second Zotac, never had a issue with them. No temp issues, no coil whine, all fine an dandy on the 1070. It's not the most insane overclocker though, but i'm satisfied with 2050 on the core and 9000 on memory.

so 1070 is the one to get then? 1060 looks underwhelming. 1080 meh at that price.

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>>55774456
which Manufacturer, though.

>>55774483

I'd buy EVGA>ASUS>Giga>Whatever

In that order.

>>55774483
I always just match it to my motherboard

>>55768854
That is a fucking sexy looking card.

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>>55774512
>EVGA>ASUS

Two of the worst most overrated brands

Asus is shit and EVGA is only good for their customer service. MSI for better cards or Gigabyte for budget.

>>55774643
ASUS is shit? thats the first I have ever heard of it. why does /g/ know nothing about computers?

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>>55774676
>ASUS is shit?

Did you miss the threads about them constantly using generic coolers and throwing them on any card even if it doesn't fit?

>>55774676

EVGA sent me a new card w/o taking my CC#, because the card I registered on their site was running somewhat warmer than it should be.

I never got charged anything, for replacement or shipping. Once I got new card I used the label in the package to send my current card back.

That was a fucking 760.

EVGA will take care of their owners. It's not a meme or shilling, it is just the truth. Those who argue otherwise are shilling. MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS could easily adopt the same policy and don't.

Thinking about getting a 1080, but right now I only got a 1080p 144Hz monitor.

Is it overkill? Or is it mainly for 4k?

>>55774719
I've had way to many rma's with evga not worth the hassle senpai.

>>55774769

Explain? I've actually had 3 RMAs with EVGA in my life (660, 760, 970) and have never paid for shipping or mailed my GPU before getting replacement.

>>55774676
ASUS has been arguably lower-quality for the last few years. Even their spawn ASRock releases better motherboards.

The only reason they're still relevant is thanks to the republic of gaymers army branding.

>>55774762
Can you consistently hit 144fps on every game?

No? Then it's not overkill.

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>buying ANUS

>>55774719

I returned an ASUS card I ruined myself after owning it for like maybe 3 weeks (water spilled through the crack in my two piece desk and dripped through the top fan port directly onto the card)

Got a new one without any extra questions asked, I didn't deserve it.

>>55774814
thats a lot of rma's anon.

>>55774877
Second that, the fuck

I've only needed to RMA one card in my life since 2005

>>55774863

Did you return through Asus or the outlet which you bought from?

I'm not arguing others suck (cept for MSI who are really shit), I'm pointing out that EVGA are literally god tier.

>>55774877

660 was ebay buy and they still honored warranty, 760 was funky card, 970 was because of the 3.5gb meme that /g/ fired me up on so I got em to refund (bought 980ti).

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>>55774857

I don't know, that's the question I'm asking I guess.

I suppose even thinking I'll get 144FPS in 90% of games released even currently on the highest setting would be asking for too much.

I literally can't win, I'll never have the best, my FPS will never be silky smooth enough.

As good as EVGA is at GPUs and PSUs, their software is fucking garbage senpai. Have they EVER made a good Precision X?

>only way to control FTW rgb lights is w/Precision

So they're forcing us to dl their shit ass software to handle our leds. Fuck.

>>55774859
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091
Fucking Christ, all that wasted money that they could have used to make CHEAPER dual pipe 1060s that cool JUST AS WELL

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Thoughts, comments?

>>55775116

Moral of the story is that AMD (poor)fags try to stay relevant while successful anons w/real jobs by proper hardware that works.

I have a 1080p samsung tv @ 60 hz as my display.

I dont need 1440p 144hz.

is buying a 1070 justified If I want to max out literally everything with vsync on? I dont want frame dips or stuttering.

>>55775133
the irony is that nvidia cant into professional gpu.

>>55775142

What games do you play? 1070 is obviously enough, but might be overkill depending.

>>55769483
Oh ok. I thought it was pcie 3.0

>>55774814

With that much RMAs, no wonder they have a good costumer support, otherwise they'd be bankrupt

>>55775149

>the Quadro P6000 is literally the baddest ass GPU in the entire world right now

try again breh

>>55775150
>overkill
That's a phrase i never understood.
overkill as in spending too much or overkill as in resources ill never use?

>>55775155

660 actually came delivered with a broken fan that was DOA, 760 died after storm blew out houses power, and 970 was fine I just returned cuz of 3.5 meme.

But yeah.

>>55775168
>cant even run algo's.
bitch please.

>>55775186

And FWIW, EVGA has never second guessed me. They replaced all w/o question.

Shit on them all you want, but I don't buy anything that is covered as well as an EVGA video card. It doesn't even matter if you burn that mother down OC'ing, they'll still replace.

>>55775221
heres a hint. you shouldn't have to rma anything.

>>55771562
Then get the headset later. There arent any real games for vr yet anyway.

>>55775237

"shouldn't" sure
"won't" no

If you build enough you will eventually get busted shit. Especially IF you are flipping builds by buying cheap shit on Ebay.

>>55771641
Sounds like it could be ram related. I believe theres a ram testing utility available

I was about to buy a 1070 founders edition, it's the only model that fits my case. But then I thought "499? nope!".
I needed a card because of psychotic online shopping crave, so I bought a brand new 970 for 250 potatoes.
I'll probably buy a 1070 Mini next year for about the same price, depending on my 970 performance, I play at 1080/60hz so it's not like I care as long as I'm hitting 30+fps/ultra.
Keeping the 970 for two years and then buy the next xx70 card would be ideal.
I wouldn't buy a 1070 for more than 370$ though, prices are now that high because no one usually buy a graphics card during summer except for enthusiasts, prices will go down as autumn kicks in.

>>55775280
We had to stop carrying evga because we were spending more time on free repairs from bad cards and mb's than anything else.

>>55775344

I've dealt with enough GPUs that I don't believe you.

>>55769254
1060, bruh

>>55775365
theres a reason they have good customer service and everyone talks about how great it is. guess how they know? they had to use customer service.

>>55774700
>his has best overall performance
Was not expecting that in the slightest. They seem to get no recognition whatsoever.

>>55769289
Save up retard. Get 250 and then get a 480 or a 1060

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>10 series releases
>BEST CARD IN THE WORLD OMG FUCK HATERS FUCK YOU AMD KEKS
>smooth sailing for Nvidia
>TSMC fucks up the supplies and causes a shit price gouging everywhere
>10 series sold out in every store
>Nvidia is happy
>RX480 released
>Benchmarked
>Exceeds in DX12/Vulkan which will be implemented in every AAA games in the future
>AMD cucks go wild as if its the second coming of jesus
>RX480 sold out everywhere
>Nvidia drops the 1060 to compete
>1060 roflstomps 480 in DX11 and below
>480 anal ragnaroks 1060 in DX12 and above
>Nvidia gets exposed that none of the 10 series can do acomp nor DX12 properly for higher premium cost at that
>Make matters worst, old AMD cards are getting big boosts
>AMD lols and carries on with business announcing Vega, Zen and PRO cards
>Intel pays attention but isn't bothered
>Nvidia in panic mode as they realized they fucked up with the 10 series
>Nvidia assures it can remedy the non-gain issue with software update although AMD is on a hardware level with DX12/acompute
>Nvidia quickly announces the next generation of volta to not lose momentum as AMD starts ass ramming them from below

This is probably the best yet worst time to buy cards.

>>55768854
Is there any hope installing a gpu with an AMD A10-7800, or am I doomed?

>>55775647
I'm buying Nvidia and jumping ship as soon as DX12 or Vega/Volta hits. Whatever happens first. I just wish AMD had an answer to the 1070/1080

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>>55768854
I don't fucking understand..

Am I on /v/ or /g/? Why the fuck do you guys "discuss" cards if you do not play games?

>>55775735
I use mine for work. Quadros and Firepros are overpriced.

>>55775734
480X?

shackled to hackintosh support..

just got a gtx 960 4gb for $150.. would have preferred an 8GB RX 480

>>55775735
>>55775746
deep learning tensorflow
soon tensorflow will have opencl support making amd cards much more valuable.. I suspect the rx480 will be killer price/performance even if power efficiency isnt the greatest

>>55775749
Pretty sure everything has pointed to them axing the "X" line and the 480 being a full Polaris chip. Basically stuck waiting for Vega or just buying a 1070

>>55775750
There's some support for Polaris in Sierra

>>55775766
But why do you care about it?

STOP THIS HYPOCRISY

>>55775782
yes 460 has full support, 480 has fb support, hopefully it will have full support.

sadly every new osx version is shittier than the last.. macOs sierra will probably be even shittier

the other option is wait for osx web driver support for pascal from nvidia.. rumors are august

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37b-sp.html

Looking to replace my 5870, is this good?

>>55775768
no hope for 490?

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>Tfw my 1060 will be here tomorrow

Have a fx 6300 and a 280x, plan to upgrade qround December with an i5 6500 and an rx 480. Alternatives and reasons for them?

>>55775813
Probably not. Rumors are it's either going to be Vega or possibly a dual Polaris card.

>>55775808
are you asking what i use tensorflow for?

work + personal projects. mainly image recognition project and some other stuff i cant talk about

what can async do beside post-processing ?

>>55775867
your mom

What's the card to get for 1440p 144Hz gaymen?

I currently have an R9 390.

>>55770527
They need to be more aerodynamic for higher speeds. Jesus, you new or something?

>>55770699
This. I have an AC running all the time (fucking Cali) so some measly GPU fans don't bother me

>>55775812
absolutely.
btw this is coming from a neutral standpoint. I like nvidia but i respect amd for their goals

>tfw overclocked rx480 gets lower performance than a stock 970 and 1060 in fallout 4 with an i5 3570k

Why is this allowed? Gtx 970 is cheaper and aib 1060 is the same price as reference 480.

>>55773004
they managed 3% in one week.

>>55770527
Kek
I know someone who has one of those and plays LoL

>>55775999
>aib 1060 is the same price as reference 480.
what? where do you live

>>55770578
At this rate the 1080Ti will be released august 25th
Have you not noticed this gens release cycle being 10x faster than any other previous one?

>>55770846
No shit that a damn near 8 year old CPU
Get on a current gen i5-6400 and you'll be fine. Sure i7-6700k makes a difference but it not big enough to justify if you're being budget oriented and don't plan to replace the 480 when the 490 or Vega GPU releases.

>>55776143
there are rumors of volta coming in mid 2017, probably as a response to AMD DX12/Vulkan performance

>>55770962
Same thing anon, pascal is merely miniaturized maxwell cranked up on the Hz.
Seeing 2GHz on a GPU core sounds cool, but realistically it's kinda disappointing when I think of it due to the weakness of the actual cores that such clocks indicate. If they have to be clocked at 1700MHz+ to be powerful or efficient, it doesn't say much or their actual efficiency.
Pascal are good cards, don't get me wrong, they're just overhyped and gimmicked to all hell

>have 2560x1440 screen
>100hz
>have a meme 970
>want a 1070 cause 3.5gb meme ram isn't good enough
>all games work on medium settigns and i honestly don't mind anymore, and feel like i should wait for volta cards with HBR2 memory
also i can't think of any graphically killer titles coming out before the end of next year really.

>>55775647
>>480 anal ragnaroks 1060 in DX12 and above
Let me guess. You're one of those idiots who give AMD the win because async provides a bigger boost to the 480 than the 1060?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTJPp7WdEBs

>>55776198
Let me guess, you're one of those uneducated morons who did zero research and failed to realize that time spy was actually the software that exposed the 10 series.

>>55776211
>time spy was actually the software that exposed the 10 series.
AMDrones will believe anything. Anything that doesn't benefit AMD must benefit Nvidia and is not possibly vendor neutral, amirite?

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>>55776187
Volta is gonna come out 2017 due to nvidia fulfilling their contract to the US government DOE for their supercomputer

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8727/nvidia-ibm-supercomputers

>>55776196
>have shit 960
>want 1070 cause lots of disposable income
>all upcoming games i care about don't need a good GPU

should i just buy it or wait for next-gen and some good games?

>>55776217
I'll give you 2/10 for trying your best to explain despite your hard pressed intellectual limitations.

I honestly thought you were trolling but now i realize you are actually stupid.

>>55776273
I'm sure I'm casting pearls before swine but here's an interesting article that debunks your idiotic claim. Read the comments too for a full picture but I expect you won't read any of it as you've already come to a conclusion that benefits your AMD fanboy beliefs.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10486/futuremark-releases-3dmark-time-spy-directx12-benchmark

>>55768854
I don't understand the point of the Classified 1080. Has the exact same clocks and cooler as the FTW, yet costs another $70. For that you get an extra 5 power phases to add to the already hugely-overbuilt and pointless 10+2 design of the FTW that does nothing to help with overclocking, since all Pascal chips are so heavily locked down.

>>55776141
UK

RX 489 8gb start at ~£227 for reference cards and the gtx 1060 aib start at £229. Overclockers uk.

>>55776217
This. All they do is complain about timespy because it doesn't favor amd as much as other dx12 games favor them. Amd even officially endorsed it too so I don't know what they're complaining about.

>>55776488
>Amd even officially endorsed it too so I don't know what they're complaining about.
I think it might be something like:
>It is AMD endorsed so it should favor AMD cards. Because it doesn't it must be favoring Nvidia cards.

To everyone considering buying a new GPU.

What monitor do you currently have? Freesync, G-Sync or Non-Adaptive sync (60,75,120 etc)?

If you already have either G-Sync or Freesync then your choice is clear. But if you don't then it gets murky as to which you should buy based on whether you are going to upgrade your monitor anytime soon.

>>55776566
Everything that doesn't favor amd is a conspiracy to them. That's what I've realised anyway.

>>55776632
I have enough in my budget for a 1080 but I have a 1440 free-sync monitor. Should I get a 480 rather than a 1080?

>>55769242
I can max everything on a 290X (barring the gimpworks stuff)
You don't need a 1060

>>55768854
the fastest = the most bang for your buck

I'm getting a RX 480 Nitro+ OC now and a Freesync monitor then upgrading to a 490 later on. I was gonna get a 1060 as a stopgap but that would mean I can't enjoy Freesync now and would have had to wait. I just don't want to pay the G-Sync tax and be stuck with team green for the next 5 years.

>>55776718
>implying you aren't paying a crown tax

>>55768949
That chart is awful because it mentions outdated cards first that are worthless for today's gaming. The high end chart makes more sense. Just pick the highest ranking card you can afford.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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i am building a pc and buying a monitor
what choice would be best for having it last as long as possible without upgrading
i mostly play older games which i guess means i'm looking for dx11 performance, so nvidia is better, right?
my current plan is to pretty much just buy this tier on logical increments and this monitor

https://www.amazon.com/MX239H-1920x1080-AH-IPS-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B00B1IAL7W/?tag=logicaincrem-20

am i retarded? i know nothing about computer hardware

Should I get a 1080 and a 144hz 1440p monitor or get a 1070 and get a 1080p 144hz monitor?

>>55776723
Proof or didn't happen

>>55776771
>1070
>1080p

If you're only gaming at 1080p then just get a 1060 and that 6600k. I have a 980 which is about the same as a 1060 and a 4690k which is a previous gen i5 (6600k is the current one) and it runs every game I throw at it.

>>55776845
Runs every game I throw at it at high settings**

>>55776638
>DooM
>AMD uses OpenGL 4.3
>Nvidia uses OpenGL 4.5
CONSPIRACY!! NVIDIA PAYING ID TO GIMP AMD!!

>AMD uses newer Vulkan 1.17 + async compute +shader intrinsic
>Nvidia uses Vulkan older 1.8 and no other enhancements
HOLY SHIT NVIDIA FINISHED AND BANKRUPT!!

>>55776845
1060 won't be enough to max games for the coming year or 2 at 1080p specially at the dawn of DX12 and Vulkan.

>>55776861
do you think the 1060 would be able to run the new battlefield on ultra when it comes out? that's really the only new game i intend to play. i was thinking maybe the 1060 would be a better choice too

>>55776842
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/26.html
1080 has a 40% perf/$ increase over the 1070 with only a 20% increase in performance. That 20% extra you're paying for is the crown tax.

>>55776885
He clearly says he mostly plays older games.

>>55776891
Yes. Fps shooters like battlefield are made to scale well over a variety of hardware hence why people with 5 year old gpus can run games like bf4 on good settings at a solid 60 fps. I would think Bf1 would be the same so a 1060 should be perfectly fine.

>>55770708
>970 above 390 in any situation
disregarded

>>55774719
The other day some posted they had an RMA with MSI and they swapped his 290 for a 390X. But because he was using CF he emailed them and they sent him another 390X.

>>55776862
>and no other enhancements
it's not amd's fault nvidia decided to remove hardware features from their pcbs to avoid housefires like fermi again because they don't know how to engineer a decent card

>>55776907
that's good to hear. i imagine my gaming will be 90% WoW, 5% BF1, 5% other games like stalker/skyrim/etc. i know even a dirt cheap pc will run wow but I like having the option to play others, which is why I'd like something solid. i think i will go with the 1060/i5-6600k combo, thank you

I bought 1070 and now I can't run cuda on Ubuntu

>>55775921
1070+G-Sync monitor = costly option
R9 Fury if you can get it cheap+Freesync monitor
Or wait...and wait...and wait.

Since the 1080 are through the roof, should I just drop ~400 on a 980 ti and call it good for a year or so until Navi comes out? I was planning on waiting for Vega/1080 ti but Nvidia's prices are flat out terrible and I'm worried that amd will go the same route as last year (pricing the Fury X the same as 980 ti). I'm finally upgrading from my 680 after 4 or so years and I want to buy a 3440x1440 monitor.

I have a amd 6350 and a gtx 660. would either the gtx 960 or the r9 380 be a good card upgrade?

>>55775921
Keeping that R9 390. 390 does WQHD pretty good and nothing on the market is a big enough upgrade.
Vega/1x80Ti might be worth the upgrade.

>>55769415
sapphire nitro 480 has one
and who the fuck doesn't have at least one displayport adapter by now? they're only $20

>>55776718
That has never been true

>>55776284
All that proves is that they did not use AC heavily which would put Nvidia in a bad light. I know AMD signed off on it (dumb shits). But that does not negate the fact that it uses less AC than it could (and probably should) have thus not giving AMD a large advantage and making Nvidia look bad. Also Time Lie has a massive Galax advert in it who only make Nvidia cards.

>>55776667
Are you retarded?

***** WHICH GPU YOU BUY SHOULD BE BASED ON WHICH MONITOR TYPE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE OR INTEND TO BUY *****

Seriously. This.

>>55777208
So AMD then since Gsync is overpriced garbage

>DP only
>$100+ more

Nvidia needs to fuck off with that shit

>>55776775
get a 1070 and a 144Hz 1440p monitor

>>55777208
i don't have a monitor

what gpu do i buy?

>>55777247
A dragon dildo

>>55768854
fuck off with your gaymerkiddy shit RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >>>/v/

>>55777208
Reminder to never spend more on your GPU than your monitor.
Between playing at max graphics settings on a 23" 1080p TN panel and playing on high settings on a 27" 2560x1440 IPS panel, the guy playing on high settings 2560x1440 is actually getting the better visual experience.

>>55777154
Most stupid post in this thread goes to this guy

>>55777170
>All that proves is that they did not use AC heavily which would put Nvidia in a bad light.
Where are you getting this conclusion from? Creating the conclusion to fit your preconceived notions? Just about everyone (who isn't biased) has noted that Nvidia handles Async but do not benefit from it as much as AMD does. One postulate is that Nvidia is better at keeping its cores occupied and thus has gains less from async as it has less unused cores to concurrently reschedule.

>I know AMD signed off on it (dumb shits)
Then you have no basis to conclude that Timespy functions in a way that will favor Nvidia unless you honestly believe AMD has no idea what DX12 and async does.

>>55777192
No but I propose that the person who stated "the type of monitor you have should dictate what card you get" might be.

>fury 350€
>480 nitro 320€
>480 reference 280€
>1060 280€
wat do

>>55777532
How much is 1070?

If you are using a 60Hz 1080p monitor and do not intend to upgrade it, does it matter which GPU you buy (480 or 1060)? Could you tell the difference between either if you frame cap/vsync?

Enquiring minds need to know.

>>55768991
fuck, my GTX 1080 at the stock 2,012 core, scores 121fps
my 2600K is a bit old though

>>55777546
470€

>>55777556
Both would be fine. Dont believe the memes. Get whatevers cheapest when you buy.

>>55777570
A bit high but does it fit in your budget?

>>55771487
literally got a GTX 1080 for mirrors edge at 1080P
uses fucking 5gb on ultra
7gb on Hyper

>>55777518
But it does. If you have a G-Sync monitor why would you even consider an AMD GPU other than for shitcoin mining? Likewise for Freesync. If you have neither and do not intend to upgrade either GPU manufacturer is fine. If you intend to upgrade your monitor in the near future then you need to make a choice based upon that. What is so hard to understand about that?

>>55777580
of course not, my list is my bracket basically

>>55777584
>If you have a G-Sync monitor why would you even consider an AMD GPU other than for shitcoin mining?
Because it is the best performing card that I can afford? It is foolish to disregard raw performance for one feature, one that won't be useful if it keeps my games pegged at high framerates. That's like buying an Nvidia video card because of 3DVision.

>>55777584
retards don't understand the glory of G-Sync, let them move along in their riptides of shit and piss

>>55777600
Then if you don't mind the extra heat and energy usage get the fury.

>>55777532
What monitor do you have? If you have Freesync @ 1080 then 480 nitro. If G-Sync @ 1080 then GTX 1060. If Neither and just a 1080 monitor then 1060 unless you intend to upgrade the monitor in the near future. Make your decision based on your fucking monitor klike I keep saying and everyone fucking ignores because they are dipshits.

>>55777618
I wonder if we might be ignoring you because you are the dipshit . . . Nah, you couldn't be wrong. It must be everyone else. . .

>>55777608
G-Sync's entire purpose is to help your card deal with framerates and smoothness. It probably cost you 200-300 extra just to get it. You get an AMD card- you throw that investment, and that performance aid from your monitor, into the trash.

>>55777613
G sync works very well for sub 60fps gaming.

if ur above 90fps 99% of the time, you won't notice a thing.

>>55777631
>G-Sync's entire purpose is to help your card deal with framerates and smoothness.
Yes, but it only makes a difference in limited circumstances. Mainly in the 40-80 fps range if you have a 60-144hz monitor. If your gpu keeps the video framerate above that range having g-sync on provides no benefit whatsoever. You'd be better off turning on ULMB (if your monitor has it) rather than G/Free-sync.

>>55768949
Who the fuck got the pricing on that list?

>1060 $249
>480 $289
>gtx770 $449

The fuck kind of joke you linking m8?

>>55777608
If you have a 60Hz monitor and do not intend to upgrade just buy the cheapest. If you are running at 75Hz or above (Neither Freesync nor G-Sync mind) then the GTX 1060 is clearly the better choice for at least the next couple of years by which time you should hopefully have enough cash to upgrade to something better anyhow. If you believe in the DX12/Vulkan meme however go with the RX 480 and hope for the best. Bear in mind that it comes with higher running costs and temps and will be limited on some titles.

You need to weigh up the pro's and cons based on your current monitor setup or future monitor upgrade against the above factors including but not least overall cost.

I shall keep spamming this until people get it through their thick fucking heads.

>>55777660
>just buy the cheapest.
You sir, are a dipshit. You should always buy be best performing video card you can afford/fits in your budget. Video game technology _always_ moves forwards. That's why PC gaming has not died even though console gaming makes up the majority of the gaming industry.

>>55772536
And I could shit all over your scores too with my setup if I could be bothered.

>>55771678
Better binned card with slightly higher factory clocks. Probably not worth the extra cash. I plan on getting the 4gb to be frugal. I can always upgrade later when I need to. And I don't have to run things on ultra in the meantime.

>>55777667
That would hold true if the GTX 1060 and RX 480 were equal cost or close to equal cost in *MOST* countries and available. Therefore I should have clarified that you should factor in cost and availability. If you can't buy the card close to RRP (For instance the 1060 is $50 more than a 480 because of availability issues) then you need to factor that into the equation. You forget we are talking about poorfags here. Richfags will just get a 1070/1080 + G-Sync combo regardless.

>>55777674
haha, no.

Try overclocking with crippled pascal :^)

>>55777701
>Therefore I should have clarified that you should factor in cost and availability
Cost is relevant to availability and doesn't need to be separately factored in. If the 480 is within your budget but the 1060 is not then get the 480. If you can afford the 1060 then get the 1060 unless you can afford a 1070 or a 1080.

>$600 = richfag
WTF, over?

>>55777713
Pascal overclock's well enough to beat AMD's current offerings so it's a moot point anyhow.

Quick question:
Will getting a 1070 bottleneck my FX6300 based build?

>>55777713
yeah think my 4790k and 1080 win. See theres always something better than yours.

>>55777720
yes $600 is too much for many. If either the 480 or the 1060 is within your budget get the 1060 unless you are already invested in Freesync. I will keep bringing the monitor thing up because people keep ignoring this factor in these shitpost threads.

>>55777583
Why not just a 1070 at that resolution?

>>55777754
BTW if you own a G-Sync already it's unlikely you are a poorfag and should not even be thinking about such low tier GPU's. In fact why are you evn posting in these threads other than shilling for Nvidia.

I am fairly neutral though since I recommend the GTX 1060 over the RX 480 if not invested in Freesync.

>Replying to my own posts

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>>55777745

In general terms, yes (with the caveat that in some form or another the 1070 is held back by all but the mightiest cpus - the 6300 just holds it back more).

>>55777759

Retards gonna retard. At this point cpu overhead is massively holding back these top tier gpus.

who 750ti here?

>>55777827
too outdated now

>>55777754
>unless you are already invested in Freesync.
Get the 1060 even if your have a monitor with freesync. No feature of your monitor should dictate to give up performance, especially one with with as limited benefits as g/free-sync provides.

Buying a GPU based on crystal ball gazing and/or brand loyalty is the worse way to buy a GPU. Buy whatever performs well now, is affordable/available and enjoy your shitty gaymen.

who gtx260 here?

>>55777843
Dafuq? Obviously someone who has never used either. Enjoy your screen tearing/stutter/mouse lag.

>>55777798
I've contemplated switching to Jewtel numerous times in the past with an X99 motherboard but its just the effort of stripping everything down again and rebuilding so I will probably just go with intel on my next future build instead. I don't play too many intensive PC games these days except The Witcher 3 (will probably get the next Battlefield title if its any good) so I don't feel I suffer all that much. Only thing im lacking in my current build is an SSD but once again it is the laziness of migrating windows 7 over to it, meh.

>>55777857
>Obviously someone who has never used either.
No U.

>In many situations the impact of G-Sync can be subtle. If you’re not overly bothered by tearing or are ok with v-sync stuttering, there’s really nothing G-Sync can offer you. There’s also the fact that G-Sync optimizes for a situation that may or may not be so visible 100% of the time. Unlike moving to a higher resolution or increasing quality settings, G-Sync’s value is best realized in specific scenarios where there’s a lot of frame rate variability - particularly between 30 and 60 fps. Staying in that sweet spot is tougher to do on a 1080p panel, especially if you’ve already invested in a pretty fast video card.

>If you’re already running games at a fairly constant 60 fps, what G-Sync will allow you to do is to crank up quality levels even more without significantly reducing the smoothness of your experience.

I'll requote the important bit:
>If you’re already running games at a fairly constant 60 fps, what G-Sync will allow you to do is to crank up quality levels even more
If your card already gets you max frames at max quality G/free-sync do diddly squat. It is only in the "specific scenarios where there’s a lot of frame rate variability" that you'll even notice any benefit.

If anyone here doesn't know or never used them it is you for harping on a feature with a highly limited benefit.

>>55777841
well for 1080 that is

>inb4 720p

>>55769254
Both are honestly about the same if you dont get the reference card. The AIB 480s perform as well as 1060s.

>>55768854
Its what I use but if you have $650 then a 1080 is a damn good buy

>>55769289
RX 460 comes out for $99 in a week. So save for that.

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>>55777855
OH SHIT WADDAP

>>55777862

>x99

You don't need that platform for a vidya machine as even under ideal situations vast amounts of cpu power will be sitting idle.

>>55777890

The 750ti is pure potato and 1080p gaming at anything above low (maybe medium) is beyond it.

>>55777899
Well as I said I don't really play all that many PC games anymore so it would be more of a multi-purpose machine. I use a lot of development and creative software. I hear that for such things an SSD upgrade would be like the difference between night and day when loading my programs and compiling shit. Not too fussed over a 10 second difference in boot time. On the other hand I hear theyre just a meme. Does anybody here actually use an SSD for game storage? I can imagine loading times being a major boost.

>>55777583
See >>55772201

Should I buy the MSI 1060 6GT OC or the EVGA non-SC 1060?

Don't want to spend more.

>>55777642
Not him but I heard that freesync doesn't support windowed or windowed borderless and that's a massive turn off for me as I run 3 monitors and am always doing other shit whilst I'm gaming on my primary monitor. I know I'm probably autistic because of that but it is what it is.

>>55777885
>if you are not already invested in Freesync
You just backed up my own argument sucker.

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>>55774700
Do you know how heat transfer works?

basically, you have something small like a chip. The chip heats up. The heat is conducted through a heat spreader, and then conducted into the heat pipes. The heat pipes exploit the enthalpy of vaporization of a certain fluid, e.g. water, by being partially evacuated or at a higher pressure than atmosphere. The water evaporates when hot, at the heat spreader, travels up the pipe, condenses on the walls, then runs back down to the heat source. Heat is absorbed during vaporization and released again at the sink as the liquid condenses.

Since those heat pieps are made of copper, they will probably be of very similar effectiveness to a larger heat spreader. Since there are all pressed together, even if only 60% of them have direct contact, the two on the outside will still perform well due to thermal conductivity.

Process engineer.

>>55778003
You can OC to 2100Mhz on both unless you lost the silicon lottery so either is fine. The 1060's are pretty much the same no matter what AIB partner you choose. Especially if it's not got a window on the case.

>>55778037
Are you abandoning the rest of your point to focus only in the situation where someone doesn't have a g/free-sync monitor which would result in the same end that I suggested, ie. buy the best video card you can afford/fits in your budget regardless of the type of monitor you have?

>>55778009
This is true. Go team green if this is a big concern.

>>55778066
Nope! But to buy a GTX 1060 when you already have a Freesync display is stupid. There will always be those games that don't sit near 60 fps and will suffer. I'd rather not suffer from any stuttering or tearing thanks.

>>55778096
All I am saying is that if you already have a Freesync/G-Sync monitor why not make use of it? Why gimp yourself on a feature by buying a GPU that is not suited to that feature? Capish?

If you have neither then just get a GTX 1060 if it's affordable and available in your locality. If not then get a RX 480.

>>55778096
>There will always be those games that don't sit near 60 fps and will suffer.
Maybe some day in the future, just like maybe some day in the future you upgrade to a 1440p or 2k monitor.

If you are making decisions of what to get now based upon speculations of the future you are either a fortune-teller and have already determined what is the right card for you (impossible) or speculating without any factual or informational basis of what and when you might be upgrading (retarded).

I'm done wasting words on a retard too enamored with his dipshit belief that a monitor with a very limited feature should dictate what video card to get other than the age old axiom "get the best performing card you can afford at the time you are shopping unless there is a new, faster card coming out in the next two weeks or so."

>>55778123
Huh? WTF are you going on about? I am not making predictions on fucking anything? top making shit up. I have not said anything about what either can do in the future you are now just bullshitting.

>Nvidia shilling this hard.
>not caring about mouse lag and tearing

Just fuck off.

>>55778061

I'm not too bothered about OCing but thanks.

I was thinking the EVGA one because of the 0DB patch coming soon.

>>55777084
My 1440p monitor is Freesync.
The Sapphire Fury Nitro is 330€ now. The XFX Fury X is 430€. Worth it for that price?

>>55778181
What GPU do you currently have?

>>55778203
R9 390

>>55778313
Wait

poorfag here, which card should I get for gaming below 1080p?

I want to get the EVGA GTX 1060 but I'm confused on why the ACX 3.0 cooler ones need 8 pins while the ACX 2.0 ones only use 6 pins

Will the ACX 3.0 cooler ones run much cooler?
I kinda want to go with the 6 pin S.C version for lower cost, and lower power consumption.

Okay boys, I'm looking to upgrade my 5 year old 6950.
My budget was 250 but none of the new cards are meeting my expectations in that regard, especially since I'm in canada
The two cards I came down to for a reasonable price were the 1060 and the 480 at 400 and 370 respectively.
I would get the 1070 but it's fucking 600 dollars.
If any anons could point me towards a cheap miracle card that would give me a noticeable performance boost (and driver support) that would be great.

>>55778413

Go sauce a used (or if you can find a clearance one, cheap) hawaii based card.

>>55778411

I didn't even know the ACX 3.0 ones were available yet.

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>>55775628
>>55777892
Forgot to mention, this piece of shit cpu will probably bottleneck the gpu, that's why I'm asking for something under 60$, maybe even 70$. I'll look into the 240, thanks for the help.

>>55778392
What monitor do you have?

>>55778392
>>55778559
oh and what CPU do you have? It makes a difference.

>>55778585
>>55778559
I don't have any, I'm planning on building something cheap that will run older games and then when I'm done with those hopefully I can upgrade

>>55778392
>below 1080p

Even a shitty 960 or 380 do good at 900/720p. You'd rarely get cpu bottlenecked as well.

>>55778613
GTX 1060 unless you can find good deals on older 390's or 970's.

>>55778614

You do realise as resolution goes down cpu bottlenecks become more and more apparant right?

Which RX 480 or GTX 1060 is the most silent?

>>55778869
Any GTX 1060 that has more than 1 fan will have fans stop when under 50~60C, that means complete silence until you put a decent gaming load on it.

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I just got a 1070 and didn't realize it would fuck up my shitty TV-used as a monitor's picture as soon as I installed the drivers. Looked up a lot of fixes and none of them work to to my TV's interface options. Now I'm forced to probably get a new monitor with my broke ass if I want actually clear picture while browsing. Media and gaming seem to be unaffected though, so there's that. It's always fucking something....

>>55778869

Any EVGA GTX 1060 (although the better the model the better the noise) - they are releasing a 0db patch soon for all their models.