>The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste.

>>55768536
They also can't program for shit. Everything they make is half baked bug ridden garbage.

>>55768536
Ever since win8 happened and now we have win10 I'm starting to believe he may have been right.

He was a major asshole but you can't deny the superiority of Mac OS X and the Apple A series processors (shame for the rest l0l)

>>55768536
Yes, Microsoft is about as generic and soulless as a company can get. Oracle is the only other company that comes close. Been to Redmond recently? With all the soulless disgusting Pajeets it might as well be Mumbai.

>technology
>culture
I don't know man, to me those are two different things... I want something useful that works, looks are secondary.

>>55769575
You can't divorce culture from technology.

>>55768536
Very much so.

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>>55768536
>original ideas
>apple

Difference is that Bill is still alive and Steve's dead.

IMO it's wrong to say that they don't of original ideas. They're just bad at it. It's a little contradictory to say that someone both has no taste and never tries. You can't know the former if the latter is true.

Microsoft has "culture" ideas. They're bad ones.

>>55769826

I want to dagashi her kashi if you know what I mean.

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>>55768536

>>55769887
>nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/jobs-looked-to-the-future.html
>nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/
>opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-4p_WYWqA

>>55769887
>he failed doing things for us
as if his purpose was to make the world better for you idiots lmao

>>55768536
No. You need look no further than the iPad Pro to see the hypocrisy and stupidity of his statement.

>>55770121
Well that's what he states in the OP video conversation. That's why he was so furious at Microsoft for being 'Mcdonalds', while Apple was (supposedly) trying to give the commoners a little bit of the best hoping that it would rub off on them and 'improve' them.

>>55768536
Look at the Pajeet tier design of Windows 10, he was right

>>55768536
modern Apple isnt much better.

Jobs and gates were the heart and soul of their respective companies, and its clear that without them deeply involved, the companies become soulless pajeetdesign shit.

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>>55770724
>Gates
>soul

Come on nigga

>>55770494
He had no involvement with the iPad Pro. Just like he had no involvement with the Newton.

>>55770755
Gates is an inhuman monster, but it's clear he had a vision when he started the company, and it's very clear that without him microsoft has gone full retard.

Remember: Windows 7 was started under Bill Gates still. 8 was the first post-Gates OS, I think. And look at them since.

>>55770755
>Gates
>soul

>Current CEO
>Soul lives in cow

remember that jobs = apple

he also founded NeXT & influenced Pixar

>>55770895
i meant to say ≠

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Back in the day Apple made 1 consumer laptop, 1 pro laptop, 1 phone and 1 tablet and made each one as perfect as possible. If you didn't like it your only option was to leave the store.

What made Apple great was the desire to make a perfect product and the arrogance to tell the customer he was wrong, if he wanted something different. Apple lost their focus when Jobs died and will never get it back.

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>giant-ass tacky glowing fruit logo
>taste

pick one

>>55770860
kek

>>55770936
so this is what it must be like to witness post-Walt/Roy Disney...

>>55768536
Yes. Microsoft is shit. Their shit is ugly and buggy as hell.
Don't get me wrong, Apple is shit, too. Extremely closed shit. But well done shit.

Better use Linux.

>>55768536
>that they don't think of original ideas
Original ideas such as soldering the RAM to the motherboard? Nice one macbook. Didn't see that one coming.

>>55770936
>What made Apple great was the desire to make a perfect product and the arrogance to tell the customer he was wrong

A truer statement has never been made about Apple. Now they have like 6 different iPads, 3 different phones, the new Macbook and a fucking watch.

Jobs also said they would never have a stylus, but nu-Apple made one because "it's what the consumer wants!" Apple needs to go back to telling the customers what they want, all the while being right.

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>>55768536
Was he right?

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>>55771528
> Pajeet showing a lack of original skills and confirming Jobs' assertion

Good going, idiot

>in the sense that they don't think of original ideas

Neither did you, Steve.

- stole mouse and GUI idea from Xerox PARC
- stole iPod idea from French designer (eventually hired the guy but even so they took his idea and started on it before hiring him)
- stole the iPhone idea from leaked specs and renders for Samsung's first touch-based smartphone (old news)
- stole the idea for an iPad from any tablet maker ever and especially the Dynabook from the 1960s (look it up sometime)

Even stole the quote "Good artists copy, great artists steal..." and was proud to do it.

Best slam against Jobs ever came from Bill Gates. When Jobs jumped his shit for "stealing" the look and feel of Apple's OS for use with Windows way way back in 1983-84, Gates simply stated: "Well Steve, it seems like we both had a neighbor of sorts and when you broke in to steal their TV you got pissed because I'd already been there first..."

Fuck him, he's dead.

>>55771764
Kek

>>55771380
Still. Compare them to, say, Lenovo. Lenovo has fucking 7 different 2-in-1s, 6 different tablets, probably 20 different desktops...

>>55771528
That's actually really clever. MS has poured literally BILLIONS into their Surface line, and I'd say it's very competitive with the iPad if you're in the market for a 2-in-1. As an actual tablet, that's another question - lol.

>>55769881
She's my wife, stay away!

>>55769826
didn't they come up with the idea of using a unix based OS in a consumer product?

>>55770589
Do you take everything you hear people, especially those with a product to sell, say at face value?

>>55771764
>"Well Steve, it seems like we both had a neighbor of sorts and when you broke in to steal their TV you got pissed because I'd already been there first..."
so gates called himself and steve niggers?

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>>55771982
oops

>>55771764
>-stole

Keep repeating it. Maybe one day it'll become true!
Republicans sure haven't given up on that technique.

>>55771988
Only the idea of making it good enough that people would pay for the product that ran it.

>>55768536
I think he was talking about Apple. Remember when they tried to act like adding a second button to their mouse was a big deal?

>>55772022
Gates was a thieving negro, and he knew it.

Both he and Jobs knew shit when they saw it. Their standards were just different when it came to what they would ship.

>>55772061
>libshit
kill yourself

>>55772098
exactly

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>>55770936
>>55771380

They need Forstall back. He may have been a major dickwad, but this is the rightful successor, not Cook.

>>55772103
Didn't apple make the first "useable" mouse that wasn't retarded?

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>Get real, would ya? You and I are both like guys who had this rich neighbor - Xerox - who left the door open all the time. And you go sneakin' in to steal a TV set. Only when you get there, you realize that I got there first. I got the loot, Steve! And you're yellin'? "That's not fair. I wanted to try to steal it first." You're too late.

>>55772002
You don't?

>>55769571
>With all the soulless disgusting Pajeets it might as well be Mumbai.
Go spend time in the commons, or maybe studio B. It's bad, yes, but not nearly that bad.

>>55768536
If you watch a few minutes before that quote he literally says that he has no shame in admitting Apple steals ideas.

>>55771380
to be fair, pencil is not a stylus

Steve wouldn't allow iPad mini or Pro though

You can focus a lot on the looks of your OS if it doens't do much more than facebook.

Microsoft is the retarded love child of IBM and Apple.

>>55773282
i hate this meme

where did this come from?

>>55772515
dramatized TV movie != actual history

Apple was the first to see and appreciate the potential in Xerox's unmarketed technology and capitalize upon it. Everyone else followed as soon as they saw the Lisa and Macintosh years later.

Microsoft never leads, only follows with cheaper products.

>>55773347
Oh right i forgot the content creators special snowflakes.

>>55768576
Same thing goes for Apple. Repeat a lie often enough (in this case do enough marketing) and it becomes true.

>>55772455
This 1000 times this.

Holy shit they are fucked long term.

>>55773418
They saw the potential and delivered a more user-friendly implementation, which was key to their success. Have you ever seen a demo of the Star? The UI was a total mess that nobody would have wanted to use. The same goes for the iPhone with respect to the WP6, Blackberry, and Symbian devices of the day.

Anyway, Steve was absolutely right.

>>55770936
I'm really glad I've held onto that Mac. I don't think we'll ever see a computer quite like it again.

>>55772455
Cook has been good for the bottom line, and I think that a good operations guy is what they needed at the helm. But they might wind up missing the boat on the next truly big technology while trying to get into the fucking auto industry of all things. But I dunno what the next big thing is. VR/AR just doesn't quite feel like it.

>>55768536
big business shut down any "new ideas" long ago. nothing has been new since xerox parc except for some chinky miniaturization and networking tech

>>55770835
>gates inhuman
>has donated more money to charity in one year than you could in ten lifetimes

>>55773870
charity =/= good, anon.

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>They have absolutely no taste.

You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't MATTER!

>>55771380
except stylii are amazing and his corpse can suck my left nut - note 4 user

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>>55768536
>no original ideas

>>55768536
>iphones/pads use arm processors.

>>55768536
like he didnt stole anything ...

>>55768536
despite he being a delusional wacko, there's probably some true in that statement, but keeping in mind it applies to the time frame it was done, and according to that very subjective point of view.