ban evasion is now a crime in the US

i'm pretty sure using an anonymous pseudonym is a felony in the state of california, but it's not like anyone has ever been arrested for it.

You can't enforce something like that.

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I want my freedom back guys.

gun-free zones don't stop people from bringing guns in, you know

it's a law that's just gonna be ignored

trust me, I'm a yuro and we have a lot of useless laws that the common folk simply ignore

On a related note, I find it retarded that you can block people from viewing your tweets.
What the fuck does that even accomplish?

So?
We're talking about a country which allows indefinite detention without the possibility of fair trial here. Not like they have much freedom left to lose.

>>55752305
>gun-free zones don't stop people from bringing guns in, you know
Doesn't stop people from being arrested if they're caught violating it, and ban evasion is easier to catch than illegally carrying a gun.

This is why I'm voting for Donald Trump

>>55752335
Stop being a terrorist and you won't get detained.

>>55752354
>this is why I'm voting for a candidate who supports Chinese style internet censorship
I don't see how that helps.

>>55752354
>Stop being a terrorist and you won't get detained.
Spoken like a true American.

>>55752256
Make random, stupid things illegal + beef up domestic surveillance = arrest anyone, any time, for any reason

If it's a federal crime you lose the legal right to bear arms, vote, and the social right to hold a non-shit job because "ew, a felony! that means you fucked a toddler while snorting meth, right!?"

>>55752340
If you're there to shoot it up, you probably don't care about being charged with having a gun in a gun free zone later.

I know how we can fix this though! Ban firearms that are among the most difficult to conceal! That'll make America safer.

Vote clinton 2016

>>55752354
>2025
>post "copyrights and patents are a fucking scam, all these hollywood and software jews need to have their bank accounts taken down a notch" on 4chan
>indefinitely detained as an anti-semitic terrorist

>>55752394
It's true achmed. Detaining suspected terrorists saves potential lives, I have no sympathy for you.

>>55752418
>If you're there to shoot it up
>implying people who do mass shootings are the only people who might carry a gun in a gun free zone

>>55752354
Kill yourself
I bet you think if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear too.

does /g/ pack heat

>>55752477
If you have nothing to hide, why are you scared?

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>>55752467
Not taking anymore of your bait. Have a last (You).

>>55752500
flibbity floo, here's your (you)

>>55752555
Answer the fucking question you faggot, why are you scared of you have nothing to hide?

>>55752579
Maybe that guy wants some privacy?

>>55752599
This is 4chan. How much do you want to bet he's got lolicon to hide or something like that?

>>55752579
That's just like being against free speech just because you don't have nothing to say.

>>55752579
(you)

>>55752340
>ban evasion is easier to catch than illegally carrying a gun
Yeah seems really easy to detect. I got banned thrice today already yet here I am. :^)

>>55752634
Still dodging the question

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>>55752661
>I got banned thrice today
Prove it.

>>55752475
They're the people the "gun free zone" is meant to deter anon

If it doesn't deter people with murderous intent but does deter people who want to be safe against the former, it's not working

>>55752662
im nearly out of (you)s

>>55752703
No, that's your job CIA. :^)

(You) should be filtered.

>>55752731
>They're the people the "gun free zone" is meant to deter anon
>implying

>>55752579
Have you ever thought that maybe there's nothing wrong with having something to hide? The law isn't necessarily a moral right. It's necessarily a set of rules that benefit the people that wrote them and nothing more. The law is the polite request of man, not the word of god. And the state calls violence used by you to enforce your will or protect your interests crime, while they call the same thing on their part justice.

A christian in a nation that's having problems with islamic rebels would definitely have something to hide when the durkas took over his village.

>>55752189
why is the 9th circuit court such shit? it's because of california, isn't it?

>>55752625
I always find that people who make a point of saying shit like "this is 4chan" are insufferable newfags.

>>55752625
oh yeah that fucker has lolicon

we need to imprison him for his violent crimes against drawings

i for one would rather pedos jerk off to real little girls in public parks

>>55752661
As if, this board is left to the wild animals.

>>55752801
it is absolutely because of california

>>55752189
While joking about freedom in the US is always amusing, the problem goes much further. This is the way the internet is going everywhere. It's no longer the wild west it once was and companies trying to monetize it want all the protections they would have if their website was a physical store. Hell, this is what could kill adblocking in the US. All companies would have to do is change their "please disable your adblocker to view the site" screen to "cease visiting this website with your adblocker enabled or face legal action."

>>55752914
Speaking of little girls, why are they afraid of me looking through their bedroom window at night? What do they have to hide?

>>55752772 (You)
no

>p-please don't visit my site anymore, you're disturbing our safe space

>inb4 pinging some server to check if your Internet connection works is a crime too

It's also illegal to reply to someone who doesn't want any (You)'s.

Don't reply to me.

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>>55753433

>>55752579
feds, or literally anybody could easily plant evidence on your devoid-of-privacy pile of shit computer

have fun getting framed

nigger

>>55752189
So when are megacorps going to become a thing? Since all this shit is happening anyways I hope to see 4chan v. Australia et al. in my life time.

>>55752579
Just because he has nothing to hide does not give a right to look

>>55753433
(You)

>>55754808
When the US government changes its name to Northrop-Grumman Sony International.

>>55755148
you forgot Colt-Lockheed Martin

>americans

>>55752334
it obviously is there for an official reason to make a point in a legal way or whatever

>>55752579
here's a reply for you

>>55754808
>going to become a thing?
have you been under a rock? you realize the level of outsourcing and dependence that already exists on megacorps

>>55752189
god bless

fuck ban evading retards

have you considered that maybe you did something wrong in order to get that ban? well you did and you deserved it, so fuck off

>>55752189
Isn't this just a case of a guy forgetting that terms of service are legally binding? If you don't like their license, don't use the service. It's what I do.

>>55752189
A website is private property. I am entitled to forbid someone from connecting to my computer, just like you're entitled to keep the government out of your computer unless they have a warrant.

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>>55752189
Well, at least it's OK to take upskirt pics in Geogia.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/upskirt_photos_do_not_violate.html

>>55757261
>In the dissenting opinion, Mercier argues that "with the stroke of a pen" the court is negating privacy protections by narrowly interpreting place in a way that excludes a person's body.
This is why judges need to have term limits.

>>55757086
I've been banned for crimes I did not commit. It happens.

>>55752438
This already happens in Germany, I'm not even kidding. You guys might laugh at those meaningless and hard to define or execute laws but that's exactly what they're there for. So they can completely ruin your life if you dare to disagree with government. People in German caliphate are prosecuted and punished harder for "hate speech" than some monkey killing a pregnant woman with a machete. What terrifies me the most is not the straight out totalitarianism that starts to show in leftist governments but the complete apathy of nation.

>>55757321
>implying the State's legislature can't simply make a work-around to better protect individuals' privacy

I'm sure Bolshevik Bernie and Hillary will do even more great things for our freedom with their strong central government that fights for "morals" :^)

>>55757424
>What terrifies me the most is not the straight out totalitarianism that starts to show in leftist governments but the complete apathy of nation.
because most people want totalitarianism, sad to say. They don't want to be free. That would mean having to make their own decisions and be responsible for their own lives. They would rather be told what to do and how to live, so that they don't have to think about anything.

>>55757261
This really is a good thing. Just making a new law that says "no upskirts" is a better solution than changing the meaning of privacy laws in a way that leads the door open for abuse of people who actually did nothing wrong.

>>55752189
Correct discission imo. You don't have the right to be on someone property without their consent.

>>55752189
Is there any way to stop normalfags from destroying the internet at this point?

>>55757859
This isn't /pol/

>>55752284
>You had freedom

lol

>>55757871
This.

As a NEET with no direction in life I would love if someone could give me directions in life on what to pursue.

>>55758028
Agreed, legislating shouldn't be done from the fucking bench.

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>>55752625
I've got lolicon but I'm not hiding it, because it's legal.

Petition your congressman and maybe he'll start up a bill.

So what country is the most free now?

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>>55752625
>both of you using the terminology wrong

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>>55752579
Rights, probably the most important shit the constitution gives us.

The declaration of independence says that it is self-evident that everyone has certain inalienable rights, such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As Immanuel Kant would say, everyone is given certain freedom, agency and protection because they are rational beings worthy of respect. This amount of freedom and agency that belongs to everyone from when they are born to when they die are their inalienable rights.

The government should respect all people to a certain degree by letting them have the rights to free speech, privacy, trial, attorney, habeas corpus and so on. The ability to defend one's life and rights is the right to keep and bear arms. These are universal and derives from logic and philosophy, while legal rights (such as the right to vote) are dependent of the government. This respect of the rational human that the constitution gives Americans makes it different from the rest of the world.

To give up your rights would be to give up your power and make you susceptible to tyranny. Even if the government isn't tyrannical now, what about in 10, 20 or 50 years? Every inch of your rights you gie up will never be given back.

>>55752189
Let them arrest me. It'll be hilarious to ask the judge how he/she feels about wasting tax payers money on someone who was trolling for lulz on a Friday night. I should find some kind of legal loophole too. I already know about the firearm loophole. Build your own out of an 80% receiver and don't sell it to anyone. I have a legal AR-15 with no license and I've never taken a gun safety class.

>>55752703
was getting banned part of your plan?

>>55752418
Why not just ban shooting people?

>>55752334
It used to be you couldn't even browse 4chinks while banned so it's all fucked

This is a good thing.

>live in europe
>guns banned

>live in america
>anime imageboards, kinder surprise, water tanks, shitposting and solar panels banned

>live in new zealand
>gardening banned

you can't win!

>>55760201
move to Finland :--D ebin

>>55757261

MURRICA

>>55752354
>lets shove this 5 inch thick dildo up everyone's ass with a gps transmitter and a camera at the end of it!
>oh you don't like it? you must be a terrorist!

>>55752284
Then just take it. The nerds need to make decentralized encrypted Internet 3.0 and just make all laws unenforceable on it. We're free on the Internet because mass disobedience and unenforceability = de facto freedom.

>>55760201
>>guns controlled
ftfy

-If you are the NSA you are banned from this website.-

Just post that message on the front of your website and Botnet will be solved.

>>55761020
>decentralized encrypted Internet
You mean Freenet?

>>55761075
You forget.
Laws don't apply to the federal government, otherwise how else would they exploit them.

>>55761006
The choice that America's founding fathers was literally to take liberty and freedom over safety.
If you don't like that, move. There are plenty of countries that are less fanatical when it comes to liberty and by shitting on liberty in america you're just shitting on the founding fathers. You're shitting on the reason the country exists and you're shitting on the men who screamed liberty or death before throwing their blood into battle.

>>55752189
The 9th circuit's full of a bunch of fuckheads.

How will this stand before the supreme court?

>>55762045
Probably uphold.

SCOTUS is a bunch of cucks to congress these days

>>55758741
Probably Mexico.

>>55752189
ban evasion is against the rules here too
>but it's okay when 4chan does it :^)

>>55752354
Haha

7/10 if bait

kys if not

>>55762045
Since this is a non-partisan issue there's a chance it would fall either for or against rather than getting tied up 4-4. If it gets tied up 4-4 then the ruling of the lower court stands.

Doesn't a ruling in the 9th circuit only affect the 9th circuit?

>>55763397
Against the rules of a website =/= against the fucking federal law.

Nobody is trying to argue that sites shouldn't be allowed to ban users.

luz burgerland, someday the chink well be laughing at your internet and muh fredum

>>55761086
I would say more like i2p, Freenet is just shit.

Please don't read this post.

>>55764675
That anon asked for something decentralized though.

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>>55752284
Why, are you a terrorist or something?

>>55761020
>>55761086
>>55764675
>>55767004

MaidSafe.

>>55758028
He's actually right. If you read how the law is written, upskirting is does not violate it, and to say that it did would be an incredibly bizzare interpretation of it.

A better law would be something along the lines of "it's illegal to take pictures of someone in a lewd or lascivious manner without their knowledge or consent."

>>55752818
accurate

>>55752189
How is this a bad thing?

>>55769908
>at the beach
>takin pics of your bro doin surfing or sandcastles or shit, idk
>some chick in a bikini walks into the shot
>get sued