Heh

>this is what C autists actually believe

>>55735637
Found the java or python babby.

>>55735650
>oh boy i just love writing 10,000 lines of boilerplate reimplementing shit you can import with 1 line of python

>>55735658
>1 line that calls to a function written by someone who knew C

>>55735699
>i need to reinvent the wheel to feel important

>>55735737
>i can't invent a wheel, but i call myself an engineer

>>55735699
>reinventing the wheel is a good thing

>>55735750
>i'm a software """"""ENGINEER""""""""""""""""

>>55735766
>i don't feel like an engineer, cuz i only know python
no surprises there

>>55735781
Where's your "certification" then, codemonkey?

>using C
>not superior java
It's over gramps object oriented programming is the future.

>>55735955
When runescape abandoned java there will be no reason to use that shitty language again.

>>55735975
Ah ah good one, and what will runescape use next, flash?

[GO]

>>55735841
Codecademy, anon

>>55736002
There is a desktop client they have to download and they did experiment with an HTML5 client at one point.

>current year
>using C
>not using Rust

>>55736568
>Using the SJW language

>>55736578
>SJW language
Which means what, exactly?

Lmao this whole thread is fucking sad. Get a life, morons.

>>55735556
learn to program =/= deploy and mantain a large project

>>55736578
Don't you mean go?

>>55736578
RedoxOS

>>55735556
That person is missing a piece.


Oh....

>>55735658
C has libraries for just about everything. And if you don't like them, you can write your own.

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>>55736568
> not using HolyC on the superior TempleOS

>>55736895
Making overcomplicated, bloated shit =/= good programming.

>>55739578
The entire point of libraries is that I don't have to write my own. Telling me that I can just reinvent the wheel everytime I want to do anything is unhelpful.

>>55739661
I guess you don't know how to read, so you'll never be good at programming, no matter what language it is.

>>55739622
never having an actual job =/= knowing how to do shit

>>55739873
Most of the "professional" code out there is absolute shit. The fact you're defending it tells me you never worked in the biz.

>>55739661
You're beyond help.

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>when you learned a bunch of imperative languages and the learn a LISP

>>55739605
Shit, you're right
>mfw i'm a cia nigger

>greentext

>>55736578
>he uses a language that doesn't inherently prevent segfaults by design

>>55735556
That wouldn't happen if you learned to program correctly; the bulk of what you learn in programming isn't language exclusive, and C happens to be very good at teaching the core concepts of programming due to it's design and nature.

It's not because of C you can't program, it's because you're fucking retarded.

>>55736568
Based Rust is best language

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>>55735556
Opposite for me

C:
>small number of keywords
>small standard library
>structs and unions are incredibly straightforwards
>most complicated things are pointers, which when you get used to them are also really simple

Java:
>fucking huge standard library. You pretty much need the API open at all times
>package.com.dickfactory.faggot implements interface extends class

Java is undeniably powerful, however. If I was writing some large application most likely I'll use it over C

>>55742553
lol

>>55739578
C has no good general libraries for neural network building and optimizing, and writing one is way out of scope of what a person should do with his time.

If C had d style templates, modules, reflection, function overloading, and C++ style operator overloading it would be absolutely perfect instead of just plain old perfect

I basically wish we had a really low level language like C that had all those nice compile time features that modern languages have

>>55736605
which means all jobs using Rust will hire an unqualified woman or other over these fine young white males.

>>55745687
all libraries for neural networks in python are just written in C u idiot

>>55742802
That's not what that image is trying to convey though.

>>55736568
>current year
>thinking meme languages will ever be as good as C

What is objectively better, Rust or Swift?

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>>55735658
I know that this is a dumb shit flinging thing, but the "10,000 lines of boilerplate" give you a better understanding of what that "1 line of python" is doing, as well as more precision and control over what's happening.

You sacrifice precision and control for the abstraction and ease-of-use. Python is great for writing C programs quickly and easily. C is great for writing assembly programs quickly and easily. Assembly still gives you the most control over what's going on, and people still read/write in assembly to this day.

Use the right language for the right job.

>>55749563
>meme languages
Which means what, exactly?

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>python babies tell me to stop trying to program a mass downloader in c because python "just werks"

Just because you don't understand how protocols and tcp connections work doesn't mean I have to stoop to your level. If you don't know how to do it in a low-level programming language you don't know how to do it.

>>55750662
everything that isn't based C

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>>55735556
>When you learned Haskell and then try to use a procedural language

>>55736605
The devs talked to a woman once and now the autists are triggered

>>55750662
It means he has no argument except "it's popular"

>>55751119
>haskell
I bet you have sheets as big as your room written filled with lamda ((((calculus)))) text

>>55750847
Why the fuck would you reinvent the wheel to accomplish wget scripting? The libraries that the Python babbies are using will have much more efficient implementations than yours. It's an IO-bound task anyway

>2016
>Fighting over programming languages that serve different purposes.
It's like most people here don't know shit and just shitpost.

>>55753275
Rust and C pretty much serve the same purpose
But one has memory safety and the other causes security issues due to lack of memory safety

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>>55735763
>>55735737

>>55750847
I'm actually interested in writing something like that in C just to try it once, but if I wanted to seriously use it I would still use python.
You want to download a picture, literally just do requests.get(url)

>>55736568
>Rust
>meme language that will die within 2 years
>C
>language that everything relevant is written in that will be relevant for atleast another 20 years

gee, I don't know

>>55754832
But the original implementations in the libraries are already the closest you'll get to F1 tires. That image is actually a good argument for why using many different languages is a good thing

>>55745687
http://leenissen.dk/fann/wp/
Thank me later

>>55735556

C is love. C is life.

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>>55735556

>>55735556
Use the right tool for the job. 99.99% of real-world professional programmers aren't writing device drivers, ultra-portable compression algos, or console game inner loops. They're writing business logic apps. They write Java and SQL. Not C.

There's a reason this is done. (Most) managers aren't retarded. For every TDWTF enterprise horror story, there are a dozen Java business apps humming away, working perfectly, that you will never hear about.

I don't know how to program at all and I think you're all kind of pathetic. Watching you guys argue about programming languages is like watching hobos fight over a moldy sandwich, it's just sad. Go program in your language of choice, and keep the bellyaching away from /g/.

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>>55735556
it would have been a fitting comparison if all blocks were in the wrong holes.
the sad thing is, language designers would then proceed to make the blocks out of playdoh so C drones can fit the blocks through the wrong holes, because god forbid you don't have a language that isn't just "C yet again but with X".

>>55755107
not the same anon but you gotta admit that C vs any new language is always a shit comparison
It's always something old and established holding people back by old historically grown clutter and inconsistencies versus...
well to be honest something new and ambitious holding people back by old historically grown clutter and inconsistencies... but only a decade or two down the line.
Noone can win this
arguing about these things is retarded