/old/

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I want one.

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>>55725684
neat

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>>55725841
I think those CD caddies are really neat, and it's a shame they went away.

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Have some fresh shit I scraped from the Chilton archives last week

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Still need to get my VMS shell login on the LCM's 785

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>>55725698
I see these at the recycler from time to time, didn't know they were all that desirable. I tend to go for VAIO all-in-ones instead.

>>55728282
>>55728300

thats how they used to to sandwiches?

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>>55728320
????

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Gandalf boxes, in an age before telnet-over-ethernet turned them into giant six-figure doorstops.

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How often to you see a Burroughs posted in /gee/?

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>>55728419
I kind of remember those weird-ass things, thought I saved some pictures.

Here's a Sun-3, though. I think.

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>>55728515
And a VAXstation, I really want to pick up some kind of MicroVAX shitbox lately

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>>55725926
I've got a lot of caddy-loaded boxes, their implementation could have been better. The caddies broke too easily or got lost, DVD-RAM had a better idea of it.

>>55728523
I'd love to collect old computers but I live in a tiny 35sqm studio apartment. My retro gaming setup with a massive 21" TV already takes too much space.

I wish i could afford some old warehouse to set up my own lab/hackerspace/computing museum/autism retreat.

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Not super old, but I found this recently at a thrift store, and it's pretty sweet.

>>55725663
Has anyone here ever considered painting a newer computer case white/beige? I've had black computer cases for so long that I somewhat miss the older white/beige ones that my family had when I was younger.

>>55728575
Same here, I've contemplated renting a cheap workshop-type building when I have more money, maybe even starting a museum, I've always liked the idea of interactive exhibits/programming courses using old big iron.

>>55728591
I personally don't really think old and new should mix, beige just wouldn't look right with modern case design.

Not to say that black isn't drab and boring, not really much for the fake brushed metal trend going on either.

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Forgot to post some more shit

>>55728682
>beige just wouldn't look right with modern case design
I figured you'd still have to be somewhat selective about what case to do it with. I've seen some cases that I think might work. The mesh fronts on most cases now days is a bit of a problem though.

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>>55728801
Yeah, mesh abuse is one of the biggest things about newer cases.

I'd personally go more for white or even more colorful cases when looking at newer designs.

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>>55728833
>that SGI 'fuel' case

want

>>55728306
What are those, anon?

>>55729000
I wish Fuels didn't still cost like a grand unless you spend forever combing ebay/nekochan for a good deal.

IRIX is such a nice platform, it's a shame that it's so difficult to get good hardware for it without sucking dick.

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Forget gay computer shit, post /old/ radios

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>>55729189
Itanium-based HP systems are not HP 9000s, which are only PA-RISC based. The zx6000 is basically a pedestal Integrity rx2600 series with an AGP card in it.

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I fucking hate the IBM circlejerk but I want one of these anyway.

>>55729220
on the picture is a "HP9000 ZX6000 Itanium2 Workstation 11"

>>55729430
The submitter must have mislabeled it.

Not that it matters for shit, I just wanted to be atuistic.

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>>55729213
Hunter Hackers are 2aesthetic

>>55729430
guess op has pic right from wikipedia:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HP-HP9000-ZX6000-Itanium2-Workstation_11.jpg

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>>55729300
>256 colour screen
This is how a full screen image would look at the specs of that display.

>>55729582
is there nothing comfier than reduced bit depth images?
reminds me of the whole multimedia cd-rom era

>>55729608
Glad I'm not crazy in thinking that too. Also, I've recently picked up an IBM 5150, although regretfully I'm still missing an MDA monitor for it

>>55729582
Doesn't look bad at all, would have looked fucking great in '92 when the average laptop was using some shit passive-matrix grayscale display.

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>>55729582
Funnily enough, that image really works when dithered.
Reminds me of the sort of pre-rendered but 8bit color used in Age of Empires.

>>55729608
Did anyone say Multimedia CD-ROM?
https://u.pomf.is/aqkdhw.AVI

This is my best impersonation of video from that era.
Just imagine it being something like
D:\VIDEO\BOYLE.AVI
and being presented via some fullscreen interface's 'cinema' mode like pic-related (although maybe without the 3D Movie Maker guy).

>>55729189
>itanium logo isn't straight

>>55729816
"so.. whaddya wanna do?"

>>55729608

I love them

>>55730726

What is that material in the background?

And why is that 3.5 inch floppy next to a computer with a 5.25 inch drive?

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>>55725663
Dual C 809 Made in Japan from 1979 to 1981

>>55729124
found the underteenage b&: virtua girlfriend

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>>55729165

Okay I'm stumped, what the fuck is that from?

>>55729300
What a gutsy advertisement. In today's world, it would probably be called sexist.
>>55729463
>implying you have control over your autism
No, it wanted you.

>>55731444
Nice face collection. Were did you get the green ones?

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Can't have a thread about aesthetic old tech without a sexy Marantz.

>>55729165
>>55731444
This, I'm genuinely curious too.
It was referred as "Sweet-OS" in another post

>>55730763
It's a pic from a /vr/ thread. The computer was a 286 motherboard in a generic case with an MFM hard disk and 360k floppy drive. We suspected there was an 8086 board in there originally and it got replaced at some point with a 286 board (upgrade? original mobo died?), but they kept the original disk drives.

>>55729300
90s laptops in decent condition are hard af find.

>>55729582
>>55729608

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0oGct1S4Q

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>>55725663

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My grandparents' Zenith Z150. I really ought to dust it off and see if it still works some time.

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>>55728580
>Fujitsu
My nigga

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>>55725663
:')

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>>55725663

>>55733622
Do it now

>>55733520
whats the keyboard? and the phone? looks so damn comfy

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>>55734788

IBM Model F and its a Bang & Olufsen Beocom 2000

>>55728563
how come we never used cartridges for DVD's?

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>>55725841
AESTHETIC

>>55732117
I haven't had a terribly hard time finding shitboxes, but the nice stuff is definitely hard to find just because of the rarity of it. I couldn't imagine it was easy to justify dishing out $4,500 for a loaded 700C with a tweaked 386SX and a tiny hard drive in the pre-wireless networking age when the same money would get you a nice upper mid-range 486DX/2-66 that would destroy it in every way but portability (and looks)

>>55733784
>Sun
But Hillary's email server was a Windows/Exchange box.

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>tfw I want one of these useless things

>>55735655
>quadputer
>ISA
make it PCI or i won't buy.

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Ok, i can change diskimages via hxc floppy emulator and FlashAir SD Card. Ethernet runs via xircom PE3. Only thing I miss now is a joystick. Any ideas?

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>>55729198

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>>55728833
SGI Fuels ave the sexiest cases ever designed.

>>55735707
That is EISA you pleb

>>55737371
Oh, ok.

>>55725663
astetics

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsk4c6xdgJU

>>55728833
>bread maker
>e-machines
>sanitary bin
>kitchen bin

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Matra Alice
It's a french rebranded Tandy MC10.

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>>55739997
Not much memory on this machine, but good enough for simple BASIC programs, or even decent games if you code in asm.
There was also a cute little matching red thermal printer you could buy for it.

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>>55740028
The front of the box and the user's manual had a nice drawing by comic book artist Moebius.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud

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>>55725663
so this is my baby atm

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>>55741246
here is the /guts/

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here's some good porn

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>>55739449
That's my ~2005 battlestation, it's not that /old/
But now i feel old because there are probably people on this board who consider it ancient and have never heard of a Athlon MP.

Also, how the hell did it end up here?

>>55741246
>>55741250
I've got a shitbox 486SLC build in one of those cases, top cozy desu

>>55736025
OC? Digging the Xerox rebadged Olivetti controller.

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>>55729651
>IBM 5150
nice, I miss that green

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>>55731624
How I would love that aesthetic on a 5 channel home theater setup. 70s/early80s design all the way. I need more VU meters in my visual!

>>55733520
awesome shot

>>55728580
Looks surprisingly modern for a MMX machine.

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>>55725663

I kind of get a "high" with old computers.

My dad dropped me off at a computer lab during his early years as a professor UT-Austin. fuckin irresponsible.

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Here, have an RTTY with a dead ROM. Now to find a copy and burn a new one.

>>55741261
A E S T H E T I C

>>55742919
That's cooler than shit. Have you tried begging for a ROM on the VC forums or on radio hobbyist sites? Sounds like it would be up the latter's alley.

Semi-related video I've wanted an excuse to post forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0LCFHeUZfo

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>>55743059
God fucking damn, that wall of kit in that video is simpler than my microwave, but seems so daunting to operate. Glorious.

HAL Communications specialise in radio modem gear and still exit to this day. I emailed them a few times in the hope for some love but never heard back. VC had no idea about this gear or HAL comms as a manufacturer. There are some greybeards on qrz forums who know, still chasing some leads from there.

Guts shot. Shit seem a little more oxidised than I remember from the last time I was in here, I might clean up the pins and reseat everything, see if I can bring it back. I just assumed it was a dead character ROM last time I touched it and commenced my hunt for an image.

>>55739997
>>55740028
>>55740075
There will always be a special place in my hearth for tape storage.

Also that sexy red color... and that cover art. Would buy.

>>55743345
Nice, still looks pretty clean at least. Hope those leads turn out, sounds like a pretty cool piece of kit for any retro hoard.

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Are there any museums that have a working 6600? I love the shit out of this picture for some reason.

>>55731682
Newfag
>>55731444
Also newfag

>>55744025
I've been here since 2009 and only recognise it from desktop thread shitposting

I guess you'd have to be in every single desktop general circlejerk to know the source

>>55744025
I've seen someone post the github link like once since they started spamming that weirdo shit. And it was by chance.

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>>55744072
The webm is of someone's art project, probably based on some javascript "OS".

The github link is for an unrelated chinese hello world OS.

>>55729816
>Imaginopolis
THANK YOU LAD, I TRIED TO REMEMBER THAT NAME FOR LIKE A YEAR.
You made my day

>>55744046

>I've been here since 2009

Stop saying that as if it's a proud accomplishment in your pathetic lifetime, it's not.

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My room 4 years ago. Analog electronics equipment dating from end fifies to early nineties.

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Like it?

>>55725841
could you put newer parts in a case like this?

>>55741261
I must find a way to emulate this effect.

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>>55728833

>TFW you'll never own a SGI box

Why even live?

>>55744817
Nice!

t. Swede

>>55729189

>itanium

AMD64
M
D
6
4

>>55744914
>gutting a SPARC32 box for gaymer shit
pls don't

doing it right would be way more effort than it's worth anyway

>>55729189
>tfw you can't even find price-gouged pedestal versions on ebay
Who the fuck buys a rackmounted workstation?

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>>55745055
was just curious if it could even be done, really like old school cases n shit

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>>55725663
The iPhone of yesteryear, besides the Palm Pilot, of course!

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>>55728580
fuck what is it I want one now.

I love UMPCs, tend not to find them cheap though.

>best UMPC is OQO Model 2

>>55728591
>tfw my main computer was beige until a few weeks ago

>>55728682
Get a really square case and paint it beige, maybe even a desktop style case (IBM anyone?) and throw together a modern system and paint it beige with paint and bleach it 20 years later to get the yellow out.

Old computers are my favorite!

>>55729582
Don't forget the 3 minutes it would take to download it, cut from 7 because your modem was 33.6 instead of 14.4

>>55729608
Being in one's favorite chair?

>>55730726
Mmm, bet that hard drive makes some nice noise. Gotta love good old MFM/RLL disks like that!

From the days when a 20MB hard disk was excessive...

>>55733717
Seems like that screen is busted, but these are really nice looking laptops for me.

If it could only have 949GM/GU video and a Core Duo...
I'd buy one on the spot.
For now, I'm stuck with a slightly less nice ThinkPad X60 (I hate the damned TrackPoint, why do people consider these good?)

>>55735174
While I really like the PC and XT style better, that is a damn fine AT you've got there.

I've got replacement parts for next to everything in an AT, but no case (even math CPU and interface cards).

Don't have a DB-9 monitor either.

>>55735655
>the highest quality numeric code
and I'm fucking getting the worst. Gimme 20!

>>55735707
Enhanced ISA, friend!

>>55736954
>hit punch or kick
>hit, punch, or kick

>>55739449
All those empty 5.25 bays are bothering me.

>>55745252
Could you install another OS on those?
Running Vista on a mobile device will be a pain.

>>55745210
Do these come with a COM or LPT Interface?

>>55739593
Holy fuck Evangelion! It's been a while since I've seen that!

>>55739869
Damn strait, it's the fastest sanitary bin in the western world!

>>55741250
Damn, what board is that? Looks much nicer than my PC-Cheeps board.

>>55741261
I need one.

>>55741556
In 2005 I had a Pentium 4 1.8GHz, sure was a big jump from the Pentium II 300MHz, but it was damn well worth it.

>>55742490
Good old keyboard lockout - with real keys, nonetheless!

>>55742767
My parents wanted me to do sports, but I'd be killed if I tried.

>>55742919
Nice effect for a dead ROM - a bad ROM on a PC would be beep noises.

>>55743345
>dat DIP ribbon cable

>>55744642
My room from Y2K onwards was just PCs really - I'm regretting never getting an Oscilliscope, but what can you do, yeah?

>>55744934
Would you?

>>55745386
XP works, and I suppose that 7 would as well (albeit slow as all hell). I'd still use it with Vista - UMPCs are a lost art, if you ask me.

>>55745462
contd.

>>55745449
With the port replicator or the dock, yes.

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>>55741246
>>55741635
Just finished putting FreeDOS on this over the weekend, 486DX. Will soon have all the games on it.

> tfw no turbo speed display

>>55745462
>Nice effect for a dead ROM - a bad ROM on a PC would be beep noises.
Oh, it beeps, every second or so. You can mute the speaker though so there's that. It's not even a static image either, it updates ever 10ms or so, completely refreshes the display with a new set of random characters. 10/10 screensaver, I just need to work out how to make it happen on command as opposed to.. all the time..

>>55746235
Put both roms in, have a switch to change between them at will, turn system on, use it, turn system off, change ROM switch, turn system back on, mute speaker, watch Matrix 3 on a computer terminal.

I meant you'd get POST beeps by the way, not just random noise.

>>55744934
I guess you can make this with urxvt using a perl script. Search github for "cursortail", for a start.

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Amiga 500 anyone?

>>55746523
Shh, the Gurus are meditating!

>>55746575
Real proof that the iPad Pro and it's stylus are nothing new at all!

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>>55746523
Just recently "finished" my new 600 that I acquired a while ago.

>>55740028
Is this in a museum?

>>55744255
>>55744072
>>55744046
>>55731444
>>55729165
Stop fucking samefagging so much newfag.

>>55746831
What am I looking at?

>>55746831
The ISA slot is for power/programming? or the power source is external?

>>55736954
>>55737051
Look, it's Biffibro!

>>55735174
You wouldnt happen to be a dane would you?

>>55746595
What are you? 10? Light pens are old as shit.

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>>55746914
Oh and guts!

>>55747046
Apple fanboys don't like to believe that their stuff isn't innovative.

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>>55746929
Could be, but maybe it's just some random retro computer expo. Here's the webpage that image is from:
http://www.burgertime.info/html/aliceburgertime.htm
I can't find link to download that game though.

Here's specs for the computer. There were 2 different models, and also Alice 90 (but that one's a little different).
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=60
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=61

They were also going to make an Alice 8000 computer, designed specifically for use by the french school system, but instead another company got the bid (Thomson). So only a small number of these prototypes were ever made:
https://atariage.com/forums/topic/251241-matra-alice-8000-ultra-rare-prototype-working-for-sale/

Pic is the thermal printer. There was also a memory expansion module for the Alice 32, and some other stuff like joystick port and modem. But you could only use one of those at a time, because they had no passthrough for the system bus. Some pictures here (page is in french though):
http://alice.system-cfg.com/extensions.php

Anyway, I really like these really old home computers like the Alice 32, Tandy MC-10, and ZX-81.

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Got one of these from my Grandpa when I was a kid. Still had tubes, but you could receive all channels, including MW, LW and SW.

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>>55747414
wrong pic

>>55746914
>>55747112
I can feel the disc reading noises. <3

>>55747559
Now think of the Dreamcast and it's optical drive noises

>>55746914
Is that a TV?

>>55747559
You mean disk? Disc is a CD etc, Disk is floppy.

>>55747632
That's a Lacie Electron Blue IV, a very nice CRT from a while back.

>>55747414
yeah, CAT5 is ancient

>>55747807
That looks so wrong

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Dug up one of my old j&r catalogs a few days ago. Any requests what to look up?

>>55747911
must be fun being 16 and finding something like that

>>55745462
>I'd still use it with Vista
Why? It was a crap mobile OS, even 7 would be much more efficient.

>>55747886
Aye, he isnt making a minimal installation...

>>55747951
Actually 31 and this was on top of the stack.

Nice try though.

>>55748017
>Nice try though.
not a try, seriosuly annoyed by kiddies posting
>omg look at mah pentium 4, mah first PC, so old lulz

>>55748002
>even 7 would be more efficient
On a VIA C7 at 1.2GHz with 512MB of RAM? You're kidding right?

Those barely handle XP as is, let alone 7.

It'd be much better off with Windows XP than Vista or 7, but if I was forbidden to change the OS for some reason, I'd be perfectly content with Vista, as I'm on a Vista business x64 system right now.

>>55748039
Didn't know 16 year olds owned houses, cars and businesses these days.

Who knew.

>>55748123
You know Vista is way more resource hungry than 7? Aka 7 runs faster on any system.

>Those barely handle XP
Are you trolling or just really clueless?

>>55746575
What's the name of this thing again? I know what it is but for the life of me I can't remember what it was called.

>>55748137
what has that to do with anything? most of these kids got their first computer from their parents

>>55748123
>Those barely handle XP
I find that hard to believe, i used to run XP on a 450MHz K6-2 with 256Mb of SDRAM.

>>55748172
He probably thinks you're still talking about him, seeing how insecure he is.

>>55748202
Yup, some people just don't know better, they never used any lower specs hardware then what we have now.

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>>55748157
"vistass.jpg"
Completely unintentional name, but acceptable under the circumstances. I commend you, shitty Cherry MX keyboard.

Phenom 9100e and 8GB of RAM handles Vista nicely.

>>55748202
Remember, this is a ULV CPU, and clock speed isn't everything.

I used to have a Pentium MMX 233MHz that handled XP pretty well, Compaq Deskpro with 128MB of RAM, but that wasn't ULV.

>>55748221
the oldest PC I still own is a 486SX, but the oldest computer I have is a Laser 128EX fromV-Tech.

No 1MB of expansion RAM, though, and my local RadioShack has closed down, so I can't populate the sockets without eBay.

>>55748172
What? You insinuated I was 16, I told you I'm not. You kept talking shit, I can too.

My dad did give me my first though. It was a 386 and I was 8 at the time. Assembled my first at 11, it was a pentium 75 laptop I got in pieces with 16 mb ram and a 540m drive. Would you like a picture of it maybe?

It's nice that you try to insult people you don't know, but here's the kicker
>you don't know

>>55748251
>Phenom 9100e and 8GB of RAM handles Vista nicely.
Point still stands...
>You know Vista is way more resource hungry than 7? Aka 7 runs faster on any system.

Also the 1.2GHz C7-M in it can handle XP fine, times faster than an MMX.

>>55748281
are you delusional? are you really that self centered? I just said that Im annoyed by kiddies posting but youre obviously not a kiddie if you already told us youre 31

>>55748251
>Vista
>Opera
>Pokemon
>Skype

oh god and the daily anime programming thread

>>55748336
Yup sure am, you showed me.

>>55748393
i'm not even talking about you dipshit, fuck this board is full of snowflakes

>>55748318
Oh Christ, is it ever faster than a Pentium MMX, I was just giving an example that were it possible to put Vista / 7 on that CPU, XP would be the best, as it's more optimized for that sort of thing.

I get your point that 7 is better than Vista, and you're absolutely right, but what I'm saying is that the VIA C7 is a fairly weak CPU to be running Windows 7 on, I've seen AMD Athlons and Pentium 4HTs struggle to keep up with 7 before.

Windows XP would be my first choice, but if I were forbidden from changing operating systems ever, I'd be okay with Vista, that's all.

I've got a Samsung Q1 Ultra (800MHz Pentium M with 1GB RAM) that runs Vista acceptably (hard disk issues, though).

>>55748370
>Vista
I'd run XP, but XP x64 is much worse.
>Opera
Better than Internet Explorer, Firefox won't update (10.0, so new), and I don't dare install Chrome.
>Pokemon
Meh, it's more of something for me to listen to while I'm working on other stuff
>Skype
Haven't got a better communications program besides Outlook 2007, but that's fine.
>/dpt/
Yeah, there seems to be a lack of anime on there today. Guess we get a free day, huh?

>>55748425
It's 97 degrees F out here, and I'm still seeing the same snowflakes.

Must be real special to be here in this kind of weather!

>>55748448
Yup, I agree that XP would be the best, but if I'd be stuck between picking Vista or 7 for it, without the choise for XP, I'd pick 7.

>It's 97 degrees F out here, and I'm still seeing the same snowflakes.
Same here dude, freaking AC is the only thing keeping me alive.

>>55748448
>97°F
Meh, i usually get >100, and my AC is broken, so i have to settle for a de-humidifier.

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How 'bout Rusty's and Eddie's?

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>>55748494
Three box fans, a creaky overhead fan, and a slow AC are keeping my room at 77 degrees F, real helpful, but the PC is slowly warming the room.

Pic related is PC innards, old photo though. Some of the hard disks have changed after failing.

>>55747044

I'm British.

>>55748610
Is that board from a Dell Optiplex?

>>55748645
No, it's the board from a Gateway DX4200-09.

AM2+ and DDR2, AMD Phenom 9100e, and Radeon HD 3200 integrated video, but I've got that Radeon R7 240 instead. Helps out a ton.

>>55747951
>you have to be underage to enjoy going through old hardware catalogs
?????

I can't for the life of me find a vt220 or 100 for a reasonable price and it kills me

>>55733765
Genuinely cool looking thing nigga damn.

>>55747911
>spending $2000 on an AMD machine
How times have changed.

>>55744968
Never say never anon. Just get one later on.

>>55735231
Too expensive to manufacture

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>>55748776
>not spending $2000 on an AMD machine

>>55748610
Well, lucky you, my system is like a 600W heater. Not helping with such hot weather.

>>55748728
HA, I have been looking actively for one for years, no eBay deals tho, way too expensive and unreliable for that kind of a item.

>>55748776
For the most part of CPU history, AMD has been the better one.

>>55748893
You got a Pentium 4HT or something? Jeez, I used to have a P4 as my primary system (not too long ago, my main PC died and the quickest replacement was my Gateway 500GR). Noisy fuckers, aren't they?

>>55748920
Until very recently, Intel finally got their shit together again and now has some comparable CPUs after almost 30 years.

>>55748907
What a shame
I'll probably end up settling with an Apple II

>>55742555
>that pic
DON'T REMIND ME

>>55748950
>You got a Pentium 4HT or something?
No, several CPU's and graphics cards and right now half-time playing an MMO. It would swallow even more juice if I'd put more load on the system.

>>55746575
There's an 80's Frenchfag singer and composer who made heavy use of this.

>>55746831
Woah, we had these at uni. They were based on 8080s, and you had to input the assembly microcodes directly with that keypad, to make us understand how CPUs process instructions, and why ASM and high level programming languages were created.
It was fun.

>>55747886
He's using a one if the limp-dick passive matrix models, it's not like he can use anything worth a shit on Mac OS without gouging his eyes out anyway.

If only they could run AIX, they're superficially similar to the RS/6000 ThinkPads.

>>55748920
Nah, the Socket A Athlons up through the 64 were the only ones ever really worth a shit in terms of performance.

The 5x86 was a shitbox chip from the beginning, the K5 was a slug, the K6 had god awful floating point performance and no SMP, the classic Athlons had gimped cache. AMD has always served the low end, doesn't mean they didn't offer great values none the less, however.

>>55749468
What about over 10 years of AMD 8086/8's to 486DX's, AMD's versions of those chips were always faster.
Yeah, I agree, the Athlon 64's where the last ones of Intel beating chips.

>>55747632
its a vga monitor

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>>55742490
Is he using screen to multiplex his terminal sessions? Wikipedia says the first version was 1987. This pic seems older.

>>55749987
There was software like that way before Screen. Like there have been window managers before X Window.

>>55749231
Daniel Balavoine.

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>>55750091
Could you name some (screen precursors)?

>>55750202
Sorry I can't remember, but a Google search should help you out. But I can recall that even DOS could do that way before '87 and I had seen it on Unix too.

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>>55750230
I know you are right. But when googling and reading the wikipedia article about screen nothing came up.
I know there were these custom boot setups that allowed you to start and switch between dos programs with some menu that you could bind to hotkeys. But I don't remember names.

>>55750291
Captain Picard must be old as fuck if he also was a Roman!

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>>55750330
He lost his faith in whig technology by that century.

>>55749527
>AMD's versions of those chips were always faster.
Because AMD stuck with them and improved them in one way or another while Intel had already abandoned them for next-generation chips. They may have had a 286 faster than anything Intel ever pushed out, but by the time you could buy it Intel was already in full swing with the much-improved 386, even the 486.

AMD chips were great values as always, but they were never at the bleeding edge of the x86 pack.

>>55749987
>>55750091
Those IBM plasma 3270s did it in hardware, it's not even hooked up to a *nix system, probably an S/370 running MVS or something similar.

>>55750438
No, you must be remembering things wrong or someone told you lies, at the times up to the late 80's, there was more demand for the chips than Intel could produce, AMD was manufactoring those chips at the same time as Intel. But AMD was behind with the 486 like 2 years, but the 486 was still Intel's best CPU when AMD brought out better performance chip's of the DX way before Intel released the Pentium, the AMD 486's even beat the early Pentiums.

>>55750487
Yeah, I guessed that, but still there where software ways of doing it before Screen too.

>>55742490
holy shit what keyboard is that?

>>55750636
That's what my dick did when I saw that pic.

>>55750699
Cute.

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I vote that all other threads on /g/ be deleted and purged forever replaced by threads like this one.

>>55750139
Yes, yes that's him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQKNAI9uBd8

>>55730763
That is a brick wall, lol.

>>55750975
Truly these threads are less cancer then most GPU threads on this board. Actually only enjoyable threads on this board.

>>55750975
>otholinear keyboard maym predates /g/ and geekhack by 40 years
huh

>>55750622
>there was more demand for the chips than Intel could produce, AMD was manufactoring those chips at the same time as Intel.
But they weren't AMD's designs at this time, they were exact, licensed clones of Intel's designs made to satisfy IBM (and other manufacturers') multiple-source requirements. AMD didn't start doing their own design work until the 386 era, and even then there wasn't really much of a difference between the two other than the higher clock frequencies AMD took the 386 and 286 too after Intel abandoned them both for the 486.

>but the 486 was still Intel's best CPU when AMD brought out better performance chip's of the DX way before Intel released the Pentium
AMD didn't even release their first batch of 486en (the DX-40 and DX2-50, both already outclassed by Intel designs years before with the DX-50 of 1991 and the DX2-66 of 1992) until just after the Pentium came out in March '93, and they didn't even have a 66 MHz DX2 until fall 1994.

>the AMD 486's even beat the early Pentiums.
Not even. A DX2-50 running its RAM and mainboard at a sluggish 25 MHz couldn't hold a candle to even the Pentium-60, maybe even a 486DX-33 in some applications, and by the time they were shipping reasonable 66 MHz parts Intel was already on to 90/60 MHz and beyond.

all these designs are totally neat!
why can't we have fun technology designs like this anymore?
these days, "fun" means bringing out a device in different colours

>>55751348
>rub out
what did it mean by this?

>>55751877
There's still a little bit of hardware diversity in the high-end, but computers for the most part are now appliances no different from a microwave anymore. People don't care about innovation because innovative technology isn't the cheapest shit they can scrape off of a Wal-mart shelf.

>>55751867
I'm not even going to argue with you, just state the facts.
AMD did their own design way before the 386, I own 8088 chips that are faster then AMD's at the same clock and AMD had faster 486 chips than Intel, directly competing with Intel's 486's and even early Pentiums, like the 60MHz and 66MHz ones, those are facts you can't argue about, if you do, at least link credible sources. Also there were faster bus clocks then just 25MHz for 486's, also there where Pentiums with 25MHz buses.

>>55751904
ASCII 0x7F

>tfw you fell for the overdesigned case meme instead of a nice simple A E S T H E T I C case instead

man whatever happened to aesthetics in computer design? electronics design in general?

>>55748160
Fairlight CMI

>>55751918
The truth hurts so much
A lot of the consumer high-end stuff also seems to be designed for 12-year old gaymers

I have an old apple 2se with the printer and im trying to find it a better home. However theres no vintage computer clubs near me. Does anyone know a good place to donate old computers?

>>55752146
That's because there's only market for demand.
Most high-end consumer stuff is being sold to 12-year old gaymers.

>>55752228
Google for "Recycling Center"
There must be one near you.

>>55752024
>AMD did their own design way before the 386
Not on x86 chips.

>I own 8088 chips that are faster then AMD's at the same clock
You meant Intel, I assume. I don't really believe that, the entire purpose of Intel granting AMD license to produce them was so big players like IBM would have a steady source of processors, AMD tweaking would not have only likely violated that license agreement but also resulted in their parts being rejected by IBM anyway, software was much more sensitive to processor speed in the early days of PCs.

If you have some information to the contrary, however, I'd love to see it. All of my 8088s are AMD-made, so I can't really test it out myself.

>AMD had faster 486 chips than Intel
In 1995. Long after the 486 was old news.

>Also there were faster bus clocks then just 25MHz for 486's
I never said otherwise. I used the DX2-50 because it was the only reasonable 486 chip available from AMD at that time (the DX-40 tended to be unstable, though probably due to thermal problems rather than the VLB-related issues the later DX-80 faced if I recall correctly), they didn't release their DX2-66/33 and DX2-80/40 until late 1994.

>credible sources
I used CPU-world and Wikipedia both to get chip release dates, the Red Hill Guide is a pretty good read too though maybe not directly relevant. You can also just simply go look up pictures of AMD 486 chips and note that the commercial samples don't have pre-93XX/3XX date codes.

>also there where Pentiums with 25MHz buses.
Only the Pentium OverDrive, which was a niche piece of vaporware meant to upgrade aging 25 MHz bus 486 hardware that wasn't even available at that time. "Real" Pentiums designed to new systems ran a minimum 50 MHz bus starting with the second-generation 75 MHz part released in 1994, and the 1993 vintage first-generation 60 and 66 were both 1:1.

>>55752228
If you're into shipping things or live in a large city, try posting it up on the vcfed forums or Vogons or something.

>>55752407
>I used CPU-world and Wikipedia both to get chip release dates, the Red Hill Guide is a pretty good read too though maybe not directly relevant.

Not going to even point out anything else, if you haven't even lived at that time or worked close to computers since the early 80's.

>>55752470
> if you haven't even lived at that time or worked close to computers since the early 80's.
Multiple "credible" sources listing dates, objective and contextual information is nothing compared to some fuzzy, inaccurate and uncited anecdotes of an "oldfag" from two decades ago, just because they were "there." Got it.

Now it's your turn, got any tangible examples of those super-fast, off-the-books 386en and 486en AMD was pushing out that had no Intel equivalent at the time of their release?

>>55750558
Ooh, I like very much.

You got an A/V capture card in there to translate those VHS tapes to AVI?

>>55750616
What is this? I now want one.

>>55752809
g4 cube

>>55752748
Stop trying too hard, this is an old tech thread, people who own at least a few x86 from that time already know about AMD and Intel chips from that time.
If you're not trolling, then you know that people like me are exactly the ones writing your "credible" Wikipedia articles. Also, off the books? Are you literally using sole half written article somewhere?

What's next? You're going to tell us that Intel licensed 64bit to AMD?

>>55752781
The studio's gone now, but the video editing workstation had a legal copy of adobe plus some card that integrated very well with it. It had firewire, a/v capture and accelerated rendering. Very common back then but the name wont come to me.

>>55745462
>Holy fuck Evangelion! It's been a while since I've seen that!

where the fuck have you been, anon?

>>55752919
How did you get a PC in that? Or is it just the normal G4?

I've never seen a G4 cube in person, despite having seen plenty of other Macs in my day.

Never had the "privilege" to do the surely delightful chore it must be to disassemble one of those god forsaken contraptions.

I still want one, if only to stuff a PC in it and fuck with people's heads.

>>55753034
Normal G4, you know, a G4 is a PC too? It's uses standard PCI slots and memory.

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>>55753031
Uhh... under a rock as it seems.

See setup last month for proof of concept, I changed a few things around recently to have a slightly more organized feel to it.

Feel, not look.

>>55747911
how many catalogues do you have?

>>55753053
No x86 though, durr a hurr I meant a windows computer.

Yes, it is indeed a personal computer, though sometimes I tend to question the legitimacy of the term "personal computer" being applied to Apple products, it does technically take input and (eventually) give an output.

By saying PC, I am referencing the standards set by IBM in 1981 as a system running Microsoft DOS or Windows operating system.

While it is indeed a PC, it isn't a PC per say.

>>55753122
So, all-in-all it's a PC just not IBM compatible.
The "PC is just a x86 thing" is a retarded thing of quite a latter time.

>>55752978
>Stop trying too hard, this is an old tech thread, people who own at least a few x86 from that time already know about AMD and Intel chips from that time.
>well EVERYONE knows that!
Holy shit, that's some incredible projection. Especially when you still have nothing to back it up. Still no sources. Not even a date correction or two, just a bunch of weasely anecdotal bullshit followed by "trust me I was on the same plane of existence at the time", because for some reason admitting that AMD wasn't the top of the line since the beginning automatically makes it terrible or invalidates your preference for it or some stupid shit.

>If you're not trolling, then you know that people like me are exactly the ones writing your "credible" Wikipedia articles.
At least check the edit history before you allege some stupid cop out shit like this, or blatantly ignore the two other websites I mentioned.

>Also, off the books? Are you literally using sole half written article somewhere?
What? You're claiming that AMD was always out-classing Intel's highest end offerings at one point or another, which you can disprove just by looking at the damn release dates of their chips or even just observing the sales trends. They were always anywhere from a speed grade to a full generation behind the curve, the high-end was never their game.

So, show me their commercially available 486DX2-66 that was available before 1992, or their 10 MHz 8086 that was out before 1982.

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>>55753122
I posted the g4, but the pic is just from the net I never owned one. Closest I got was an AOpen XC Cube.
Pc.

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>>55753210
>>55752978
fucking faggots stop derailing the thread
seriously newfags these days

>>55753270
>discussing old tech in an old tech thread is derailing the thread

>>55753305
you faggots are argueing about barely related shit

>>55753193
As I recall, IBM started in 1908, Apple in 1968(? somewhere in the 60s?), the standards laid out by IBM in 1981 were carried over and have evolved to what we have today, and even then it was used in a good amount of Macintosh computers, where Apple tends to change their standards every now and then (Apple ][, 68k, PPC, Intel) in a vague attempt to keep up with the technology of todays Windows computers, be it x86, x86-64, AM64, or whatever it will be in the future.

Whilst Apple computers are indeed personal computers in the sense that they are both moderately personal and they are computers, the term coined by IBM in 1981 has stuck all these years with the generally same architecture, whereas Apple continues to change theirs.

Maybe it's time that Apple starts to... Think Different?

>>55753343
Exactly. Not discussing aesthetics.

>>55753379
x86 PC's are just IBM Compatible Personal Computers, coined by the XT and AT.
Today's Apple computers are literary IBM compatible and thus are full PC's like any other x86 PC on the market.

>>55753343
The fuck is "barely" related about pre-Pentium x86 hardware in an old tech thread? If you just want to repost the same old tired pictures with no comments or discussion about them beyond "so a e s t h e t i c lol" then go ahead, nobody's stopping you.

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>>55753442
>We're discussing a G4 Cube
>G4 cube uses the PPC arch
>PPC =/= x86
mfw people replying to me don't bother to read the whole post

>>55753442
is "literary" the hot new post-ironic meme of this week? it's okay, but I think you could do better desu

>>55753494
No, you were talking about Apple in general...
You even pointed out different architectures Apple has used and said that Apple should start to think Different.

>>55753534
see >>55753053

I brought up the different archs because you decided to be literal on the term of Personal Computer.

>>55753526
Nah, it's literary because it's actually an IBM compatible PC, it's written even in every Mac's manual that it's x86 and can run Windows.
Today's Mac's are in it's most basic meaning IBM compatible PC's.

>literal – literary – literate
>The literal meaning of a word is its most basic meaning.

>>55753590
Yeah, because I have shitloads of different computers with different architectures, they are all PC's in the most common sence.
They where referenced as PC's even back when they came out (even a lot of ad's did, they are on youtube too), they are not just IBM compatible PC's.

>>55735655
>libraries from NAG and KUCK

>>55749269
We used to have a 'computer lab day' when I was in grade school where we'd bus to the university of illinois and dick around on the old plato computers. Shit was really fun.

>>55753674
Most basic meaning would mean containing internal expansion slots and based on the x86 arch with a PC compatible BIOS and MS-DOS / Windows support.

Today's Macs do not include the IBM compatible BIOS, and iMacs do not have IBM compatible expansion slots.

>>55753706
I couldn't care less what you own, friend, I am simply telling you as it is, and what the common definition is nowadays.

You're treating this like the Mayan calendar, it doesn't mean anything and you're taking it extremely literally.

>>55753534
"Think Different" was Apple's tagline in the 1990s and early 2000s, but it does not seem as if you've caught that.

>>55753774
Computer days were always fun. Were you allowed to brink in your own cassettes and diskettes?

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>>55753712
>not using the dankest parallel compilers available

>>55753796
PLATO didn't have a disc drive. It ran off a Uof I mainframe ILLIAC or something like that. You had to add directly to that if you wanted to load content. These computers are ancient and were ancient when I was in grade school.

>>55753796
Actually the most basic meaning for IBM compatible was that it could run MS-DOS or Windows and it's software, look it up.
I don't give five fucks about what you try to explain, my statement is the same, there is more to PC's then just you'r IBM compatibles.

>>55753846
And there is more to life than Apple, anon.

You want me to change my statement to be more accurate, you could've asked, not tried to tell me the Macs are PCs too.

>>55753840
We had VIC-20s when I was in grade school.

>>55753890
Yeah, the vic-20's where awesome learning computers along with the apple IIe. You could actually write basic instructions for them really easily. I could do it and I'm genuinely an idiot.

>>55753890
I'm not saying that just Mac's are PC's, I'm saying that there are lot of different architecture microcomputers that are PC's, including 6502/68k/PPC and x86 Mac's.

>>55753915
There were something like 200 computers, Apple ][ was a bit expensive for that.

>>55753930
Okay.

>>55753915
*were.

>>55753915
>>55753957
>genuinely an idiot.
point taken

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>>55729300
>OS/2
Nice!

>>55754102
>>55754136
Breddy good. Where is this hardware from? I want to say it looks Czech but I think I'm wrong.

>>55754464
It is Czech.

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This is a great thread, I wish /g/ had more stuff like this instead of the usual banter.

>>55729198
>>55737051
Hey, I used to have one of these. My son doesn't believe me when I say that Atari used to make computers. I wish I still had it.

>>55754101
At least I don't disappoint.

>>55725684
So shitty it's good.

>>55754677
You mean your wife's son*

>>55728300
IBM 3277 Mod 2s and a couple of 3279s.
Those things on legs are cheap Memorex 3277 knock-offs.

>>55753122
It's OK to use the abbreviation “PC” to refer to a certain kind of computer hardware, but please don't use it with the implication that the computer is running Microsoft Windows. If you install GNU/Linux on the same computer, it is still a PC.

The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows.

>>55730763
>What is that material in the background?
That's hollow brick. Used for internal walls here but I have seen it used structurally in places like Spain.
Think clay cinder blocks - with no cinders.
Do a Google image search on hollow brick.

>>55743681
From memory the CRTs are memory tubes.
Spray the data on the screen and you don't need to refresh.

>>55756261
>Those things on legs are cheap Memorex 3277 knock-offs.
You mean the women?

>>55745387
The machines on display (except for the typewriters) had to earn their keep. The data centre ran 24/7. You could submit your deck of cards at quitting time and your printout would be waiting first thing next day.
Bot sure how they worked the check-sorter on the left. MICR reader. Can't see banks lugging a guarded case of checks into the data centre at night. It was bad enough servicing ATMs at night.

>>55756296
>The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows.
kek'd, classic

>>55748157
>Are you trolling or just really clueless?
In a choice between stupid and malicious, always go for stupid first.

>>55753379
>Apple in 1968(? somewhere in the 60s?),
Apple started April 1 1976 with the Apple I.
The Intel Macs came about when IBM wasn't interested in making faster G5 CPUs. Up till then they'd gone from 68000 to PPC in search of more power.