Why are people suddenly interested in Computer Science?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb2AybuNOlc

>>55699289
One word. Feminists.

>>55699304
Not the Sam Hyde video, disappointed

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>>55699289
This.

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>>55699289
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/home.htm

and this, it's the largest growing field atm just like Chemical/Petroleum/Electrical Engineering was 2-4 years ago

Because of social networks, smartphones and meme startups. I truly hate what this fucking industry has become.

>>55699352
wont having so much people go into this field mean lower pay?

>>55699360
sshhhhh....., also the job growth for all these fields is pretty enormous at the moment, plus not everyone can do Software Engineering/Web Development. I've seen all the retards get weeded out in my 100 and 200 level classes easily

>>55699360
Only Webdev's

>>55699356
No one cares what you hate faggot

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>>55699448
why so hostile?

>>55699469
3 men 1 woman. I guess all her holes will be filled.

>>55699339
Why are there no male dentists?

>>55699289
>Computer Science
You mean "coding", right?

>>55699360
Depends on the area, really.
There are already areas where the pay went drastically down, e.g. see web dev.
But on the other hand even if you have thousands of poos and hipsters with javascript, there will still be areas that are too "boring" or too "hard" for the big majority, so these areas will never be overrun and will still have decent pay.

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>>55699540
>2016
>assuming gender

>>55699289
Can't say the same about other states, but there are more CS job openings than there are CS grads in California. Not only that, but they're fairly high-paying offers too, so it's bound to attract a lot of students.

>>55699798
But i doubt the majority of those are positions for web devs.

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>>55699688
nigger you blind? it's literally at 73%

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>>55699469
Tfw when accidental swastika

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>>55699837
>accidental

>>55699818
I wouldn't say a majority, but there's a significant amount of webdev/full stack jobs available.

>>55699339
>EE
>90% boys
Yes~

>>55699352
>Software developer
>tfw paid 18k year

>>55699360
that's true, at the moment the pay for competent people is so astronomical that it's still a good job though

>>55700070
how could you be getting paid that little?

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>>55699360
No one is really answering you.

Yes, bigger supply of workers will lower pay. And since this is work for which, there are no borders, you are competing with pajeet for the same job. Happy coding :)

>>55700070

is it at least comfy

>>55700110
globalization. see >>55700114

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>>55699798
>California
Its a shithole desu

>>55699289
What Computer Science? One woman is holding a thermos and the other is on facebook. They've never compiled anything in their lives.

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>>55699289
Did you just come out of your hibernation m8?

>>55700268
>dat reference

>>55699289
>Why are people suddenly interested in Computer Science?
Because contrary to what /g/ wants you to believe, programming jobs and other computer science related jobs, are actually quite well paid.

Don't listen to the jewish lies /g/ spout about how the market is saturated with cheap indians and girls; they only want to keep their fat salaries for themselves.

>>55700305
Why are you frightened? Afraid truth is still out there?

>>55699289
The media has highlighted the few people who struck it big. There is some kind of prevalent perception that if you learn "computers" you could be the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. This has been fueled more by a number of newer tech company that started with coding,
>because Facebook's fiscal success was solely do to good codding and had nothing to do with social connections or capitalizing on other factors that were in play which rarely happen.

To be honest I plan to start getting into it, mainly as the barrier to entry is so low that anyone could pick it up. However I also know that such low barriers means a flood of stupid wannabes that make it harder to succeed. But my goal is not so much to succeed, as it is to keep my engineering mindset working. Sadly I don't have the resources to build experimental aircraft and other things more in line with my skills and interests, but I can build experimental code which uses a lot of the same mental muscles. And I got to use them or I would go mad with boredom and loose a good chunk of my intelligence. I can already feel it slipping away as none of my jobs use a fraction of my mental capabilities.

>>55699360
Yes, we see this time and time again. Schools are teach what was the next big thing, when they need to tech what will be the next big thing. This is partly why our labor market is so jacked up and every 2~5 years a great paying job field falls apart badly.

On a larger level we need to admit not everyone can be whatever they want. But that is a much bigger debate that should go to /pol/

>>55699289
>people

>>55699339
well you get to sit at computer all day which less physically demanding than say machinist

>>55700268
>hibernation
>unironically storing RANDOM ACCESS data on PERMANENT STORAGE units

>>55700333
>market is not saturated
>jewish lies

irony in a post... because it is saturated is why there would be jewish lies about it not being saturated. because more workers means your skills aren't so valuable anymore, that means lower wages and as much as trump followers would like to erect walls to trade, there are no walls they can erect to outsourcing of computer work services like programming that can literally be done anywhere in the world.

>>55699469
heil

>>55700458
>because it is saturated i
If it is saturated, how come I get bi-weekly calls from recruiters and HR staff wanting me to and currently have a salary that's over one standard deviation above the national average, despite the fact that I only have 1.5 years of experience?

>>55699289

Work from home meme

>>55700472
What exactly are the academic skills that you have?

>>55700458

half true, H1b that allows the curry to work in the Californian office like any other is even worse for the job market of locals than outsourcing, since not everything can be 100% outsourced

>>55699339
Feminists want to know how to build femsites where they post inane bullshit and gain weight. They'll then proceed to bitch about not getting a man on social media while exclaiming they're too much for a man on tumblr. This is what's known as land whale logic.

>>55700502
MSc in computer science from a public university

>>55700508
H1Bs in the computer science field are the failings of America. Traditionally you had workers that came in and worked while sending a small percentage home. Now companies can get away with company provided housing while pajeets send most of their paycheck home. H1Bs are in a very literal sense bleeding America dry.

Computer science has different fields like practical (programming, database), theoretical (logic, computation theory, AI), technical (computer engineering, embedded systems) and applied (bio informatics) computer science.
Normies are interested in practical computer science because muh games, muh Facebook, muh web development.
If someone is interested in at least one of the other three then you know they're actually interested in computer science

>>55700622
Canada has a way more sensible approach: A company is not allowed to outsource unless they're unable to find a qualified citizen.

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>tfw working in a field combining cs and another science
>tfw pajeets can't take muh job since they're shit at both cs and said science
>tfw not even good at programming but doesn't matter

I'm pretty sure all my managers up to this point have all been closet racists who clearly prefer white people. We had a Pajeet working in my old place once, he was let go after six months because being in charge of developing an Android app was clearly out of his league.

>>55699688
Most of the women at the dentist's office are dental hygienists. The actual dentist, with the PhD, is usually a guy.

>>55699289
Creating dogshit in Ruby on Rails isn't computer science.

>>55701037
A vast majority of programmers don't even need to study CS to be competent, a fact that major companies like Google are slowly starting to realize.

>>55701132
Google still doesn't hire Ruby on Rails faggots. Even having that on your resume is a good way to get blacklisted.

>>55701132
This is why more tech companies are hiring people who took a 3 month computer science workshop than a person who has spent $60,000 for their 4 year degree.

Less pay for the same quality work

>>55700324
>JVM
>Performance
Love it

ITT people who think their work can't be outsourced because they are special unique snow flakes with special unique education no one else can get anywhere on earth.

>>55699339
Why did they feel the need to divide the bar into four blocks with padding between them? The letters overlap with the spacing between the blocks and it looks hideous.

>>55699339
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHY ARE THERE NO WOMEN BOILERMAKERS???????

>>55699339
>drillers of earth
sounds like a heavy metal band

>>55699360
For a lot of other jobs, yeah. But computer science is one of those fields that everyone will want to do, and then realize later that they are not able to do it. I expect the rate of programmers to go up a bit, but not enough.

>>55700957
>dentists with PhDs

>>55701726
Hey Pajeet.

>everyone takes computer science and webdev
>i'm just sitting here as a network administrator

can't create a shit website if you can't connect to the web :^)

>>55700584
>gain weight
hehe

>>55701990
Literally rape, the profession.

>>55699360
Im from eastern europe, CS majors are running away from my country. Thanks to Obama my wage is actually raising

>>55704445
I'm from Australia, CS majors are running away because they have to move to US to find relevant jobs

>>55700070
I wish I made that much.

>tfw making $9 an hour
>tfw I know I'm getting totally screwed
>tfw afraid to leave my job because I want a couple years paid work experience on my resume before leaving

It's ass.

>>55700825
This is really the best way to go from what I hear. Take a field or science you enjoy and minor in computer science and get some programming experience on your own. Ez jobs ez money, and no Pajeets to steal it away. Just asians.

>>55704764
>18k
>I wish I made that much.
>$9 an hour
$9/hr * 40hr/week * 50 weeks/year = $18k

wat

>>55705082
>50 weeks/year
wat,

>>55700957
>PhD
That's a funny way to spell DDS. That said, I've never seen a male dental hygienist before. Why the hell wouldn't you want a bunch of 20 something females crawling all over the office

>>55705110
How many weeks do you work per year?

>>55705166
6-7 monts/year
rest of the year i just neet around

>>55699360
Why do you think schools have been pushing the STEM meme so hard?

Why were people interested in MAKING WORLD WIDE WEB PAGES BRO before?

because bubble
because you can teach the trade to yourself without any schooling and still get through the brainless fucks at HR
because it's a last chance for losers that don't want to be the 9 to 5 finance manager at local corp like mom or a mill worker/car salesman/middle manager/shitjob like pops

>haha dude i'm going to have a job creating stuff! so awesome!
>Okay "dude" here's our UML diagram you are going to write methods 485 through 610. the design documents for them are in this folder. please use eclipse and the company style.

Normies realized it made more money than most other fields.

>>55699339
>Mathematicans
>51.1%
bullshit

>>55705254
girls actually have solid a presence in real science because they can accomplish things that benefit society

women fucking love benefiting society

software eng. is unpopular because most of it accomplishes nothing new, nothing of value, or makes society slightly worse. and then when a programmer works on something "important", they're just the programmer, like being "just the plumber" to the architect who designed the hospital.

>>55705254
Academia is often a low paying field and is therefore filled to the brim with women.

>>55699339
>drillers of earth

This sounds like a cult.

>>55699304
This is literally the LOGO programing language of today.

>>55705326
>>55705360
I've never seen a woman teaching hard science past high school desu

>>55705326
>software eng.
>makes society slightly worse
wat

>>55705082
he's a programmer he can into logical thinking lol

>>55699360
It's going to lower the pay for entry and middle levels, higher level engineers will actually earn more, especially after we get regulated.

>>55705219
no wonder then

>suddenly
lol

>>55704764
The hell do you live, St. Louis!?
I make 75k as a network engineer. The developers in my office make over 100k.

it's kind of fashion for some people

>>55705161
Because they're self-righteous bitches. Talk to a dental assistant for five minutes and try not to punch her in the face.

>>55705462
This. Programmers are the new lawyers. In 20 years you will have to get a special kind of post graduate degree before anyone will even think of hiring you.

>>55705326
>doesn't realize how critical software is to daily life
That thing you're posting from wouldn't be very useful without software.

>>55699289
Together with business related majors it's one of the easiest way to make money; while not being as mindnumbingly dull.

>>55699339
>drillers of earth
Sounds like a fun job

>>55700648
That's technically how the law is here with H1B, that doesn't mean companies don't use their jewish tricks to get around that anyway.

>>55701346
all she ever worked on was garbage collection in java in 2004. no wonder that pile of shit never was constantly subject to changes and first to be replaced by google when they adapted the jvm for android

>>55699289
Now that the whole "geeks are all complete losers" stigma is mostly gone people are finally understanding en-masse that tech companies make a lot of money and that they want in on all of this money thinking it'll be easy as hell work. Specially women are now much more drawn to tech than what they used to be.

The problem is that they don't understand that this money is made off some really hard work and it's not anywhere near as easy work as they thought it would. Because of this the retention rate of women in tech is about half of what it is for men, meaning that women literally just quit because their new jobs in tech are just too much work for them.

I hope this eventually evens out and people begin to realize that tech is not a place where you go to make lots of money easily, but rather a place where you go to work hard and possibly make a lot of money.

>>55700070
I'm a fucking intern and I'm making $30k/yr.

((( universities ))) are shilling it because women already have a liberal arts degree

why not get another degree and spend more money?

>>55706830
Maybe the poster was from India...

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>>55699289
>all these fags interested in CODING

>leet hacker omg girls r good at computers 2!!11

>none of them have any idea how the hardware works or how to manage anything that doesn't involve the keyboard or mouse

>>55699289
It's so hard to tell the difference between a good dev and a bad dev. If you are a bad dev you can fuck the dog all day and you could still be employed because old people don't know what the fuck you do.

That and you can make stupid money out of the gate.

>>55706874
Why would a software specialist need to know about hardware beyond parts affecting their job? Do you think a cook could fix an oven or a professional driver design a car?

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>>55700155
Lived here all my life cant wait for next month when I move to Colorado. Fuck California.

>>55706874
spotted the 13 year old.

don't worry kid, future employers will know you're the real deal because you wrote your hello worlds on a pc with an $800 graphics card running a command line

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>>55706874
>this fag doesn't know quantum theory
>he cant communicate with the electrons directly to solve his computer issues
>mfw you need anything but your brain to solve your feebleminded computer issues

>>55706921
A software 'specialist' will need to have knowledge of hardware since hardware specific implementations may occur. What you mean is a code monkey. That is no specialist.

I think it was that video with bill gated and that steam guy who were like CODE. Steam guy was like we are wizards B)

>>55699289
because muh jobs and the field has gotten so fucking simple that idiots can do it.

Stay away. CS is dead.

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Here in Alabama no one at all seems to give a shit about computing (probably doesn't surprise any of you), so companies and governments are dying for programmers. They are willing to substitute experience for a degree in many cases of software engineering jobs.

It's the next step in basic income, once the common man realizes joblessness is the generational default he will either be at peace or cling to retired ideals of the provider role and rebel.

It's a long road to utopia :)

>>55707329
hi colby

>>55707329
>Why would a software specialist need to know about hardware beyond

I actually do find that surprising given NASAs influence in your state.

>>55705242
>Okay "dude" here's our UML diagram you are going to write methods 485 through 610. the design documents for them are in this folder. please use eclipse and the company style.

Please give me this job.

>>55707480
>muh basic income
How's the weather in SF?

Because women want to "work" but don't want to give up cushy chairs or air conditioning.

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>>55699289
>women are people

>>55700825
I'm about to start a bioinformatics project and I've been looking at all the tools I have to fix. All the documentation is written like a PhD student trying to impress a supervisor.

How do you code in a way where complicated things work, but basic things are almost but not quite correct?
I mean, they managed to make a 3D visualisation of a protein just fine, why did they mess up the syntax of URLs.

It's like they programmed it and left it in a room full of chimps.

Also why is it trying to spawn an SQL server and why is the whole of Python inside this Python library.

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>>55707329

>Here in Alabama no one at all seems to give a shit about computing

Same here

Maybe it's just an online phenomenon so you get the impression that it's massive?

And honestly, doesn't society at large benefit much more from a surplus of programmers than social science majors?

>>55707329
Alabaman scientists are hard at work trying to develop a machine that can tell them which cousin they are most compatible with.

Is it worth learning assembly for jobs?

>>55699869
nice self reply faggatron

There hasn't been an increase in interest in computer science at all. There's been in increase in entry tier programming, and those people who go into it should get as much as they can off their shitty 60k salary PHP codemonkey jobs before Pajeet replaces them.

>>55700057

The worst part is that mechanicals are manlier than us

>>55708047
dude my self worth is dependent on how much I earn and what "good" I do lmao

>>55699289
Cuz muh 6 figure salary
cunts and dicks are greedy
same way we have majority of sociopaths among M.D.s left and right

>>55699289
Most fields normies usually go in are saturated because we've now been through 2 decades of highly educated youth. Many of them don't really care about what they end up doing, so instead of choosing business, law, liberal arts or HR, they pay a counsellor to get told that computer science (and other STEM fields) is a place for them.

Many of them drop out, rinse and repeat with something else, or work as barristas.

>>55699289
idk it's a terribly unforgiving world to get an education in, especially if you do not come from a place of financial strength

>>55708702
>Muh objective value of a human life meme
>muh contributing to society meme

Am I right?

>falling for ideals subtly forced on you by people who want to use you as a means to their own ends

>>55708005
Are you indian? Yes or no.

>>55699289
Because most people are followers. They want to do the "cool" thing that is currently in.

Most will drop out after a course or two.

>>55699540
Fucking A

>>55699352
why does the web developer look like he is contemplating suicide?

>>55700324
>java
>performance

LOL

>>55710450
>>55700324

Non-tech here

Why is Java used so much, is it just for the portability, or was it marketed so much that the industry kinda raised shoulders and said fuck it?

>>55708413
So EE is full of fuccbois?

the whole "everyone can program xD" meme

>>55710472
because Oracle

they're a fucking juggernaut in sales and managed to fool everyone into thinking java wasn't garbage after they bought Sun

>muh enterprise codebase
>muh portability
>muh over $1M support contracts

no but seriously fuck anyone who's involved with java anything

>>55699339
>Drillers of earth
Damn that's hardcore, sounds like the title of a metal album.

So basically, if all men stop working for a month, society collapses?

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>>55701726
LOL

>>55699360
depends on where you are, im from a country where the US dollar is worth quite an amount when related to our living expenses and since literally every project in the world is payed in dollars.. feels gud

>>55710496

look at pokemon go

>>55710497
Surely wouldn't totally collapse in a month.

But essentials are majority done by men, garbage collection for example is probably one of the most immediate problems, utility maintenance or power generation would be fail within a week maybe if it isn't already automated in some circles. Sewage could start backing up in a lot of cities, because a lot of these things are not automated.

The supply chain would also grind to a halt because no way to transport goods even their production was automated which majority of it is not. Hope it isn't winter time because your streets won't be plowed. There's a lot there to unpack but you get the idea.

Not saying women don't do important work because some actually do important work, child care is important work for society and they have a important role in health care also.

>>55700878
>I'm pretty sure all my managers up to this point have all been closet racists

My database teacher was pooinloo and gave the class his sob story about his first programming job here and one of his colleagues said "I'm not working with this black cunt" and all the Indians in class gasped and the women shrieked and I had this big stupid fucking grin trying my hardest not to laugh my fucking ass off. Thinking about it now makes me chuckle a bit.

>>55699360
Oh vey it's anodda Shoah!!!! Stupid goys be happy you get a job at all! Aren't I generous enough to hire you at the same rate as Pajeet?! I am fair, non-privileged and multicultural after all.

>GOYIM KNOW

>>55710694
That's sad really I don't care if it's sand nigger pajeet or just plain Oakland nigger. If he can do the job and doesn't act like an idiot leaving his work for others to do then who gives a fuck.

>>55699339
>Podiatrists
The footfag crowd is bigger than I expected.

>>55705395
Back in uni a female maths phd taught design & analysis of algorithms (big-O, the unit - though yes it covered more than that), and computer graphics (matrix transformations - the unit) was taught by a female professor (who actually authored some interesting papers).

So that's 2 out of 20 or so units.

>>55710477
because everyone can actually program
like every other fucking basic skill, reading, cooking, farting, you name it.
What's so fucking complex and hard about programming or algorithms? especially with human friendly languages like python, ruby, etc.
>hurr durr i'm programmer i'm doing something that only chosen few can
shut the fuck up

>>55699339
>Drillers of the Earth
DRILL YOURSELF TO ASSSSSSHHHHHHH

>>55710732

It's not sad at all. I've heard him talk shit about Chinese and how they're disgusting. The fact is that everyone's racist, but to act like a victim especially when you're a hypocrite is a joke.

>>55710472
Sun spent a ton of money marketing it in the late 90s and most of the alternatives at the time either didn't have nearly as much money available for marketing or were pretty shitty themselves. So a ton of companies started using it heavily and now they're way too invested in it to quickly switch to something else.

Oracle is doing a great job of driving people away but it will take decades for it to die.

>>55710818
im not even a programmer

>>55710847
I hope the Chinese go full warmonger and start crushing neighboring countries one day. Fuck India.

>>55710889
Nothing can make the mighty poo people knee to their dog-eating equivalents.

>>55710650
>
Today I Dobled*, TTRd, Bridged, and SFRAd two 3.5MVA dry-types for a manufacturing company. This had to be done so that another company that generates > $50B in annual revenue can greenlight the next phase of a major upgrade to a very large co-gen in the United States. After that testing, I went to a local utility and repaired an OCB that couldn't build pressure. Find a woman, any woman, on the planet that can do that. We would collapse in less than a month.

Now on topic, I started out a comp-sci major just because I wanted to make video games. Like many here have suggested I dropped out after two semesters. Grades were fine but it wasn't for me. I then studied electrical engineering, got my FE but took a job as a technician (working under a PE, so won't be long till I can get licensed) after working for a design firm for about four months. Five years in and I have an excellent job. I have ultimate job security. I have almost total autonomy. I'm a "salary exempt" employee and most weeks I'm out the door about 45 hours but get paid for 70-84. I don't feel like a wage slave and I am growing every day. I think that lots of young people enroll CS looking for money or to make games, and I think that most of those people (like me) will drop out. Those that have a true affinity for comp-sci and develop a strong understanding of the field have nothing to worry about re: salary. I see lots of programmers, automation guys, network engineers, and robotics techs/engineers every week. 90% of them are American citizens. Serious companies don't just grab some random dude with a laptop and let him into their facilities just because he's cheap. Maybe webdevs or whatever have to compete with sweat-shop labor, but not the workers I'm around.

*I know the test isn't called Dobling. Just a colloquialism

>>55699289
This >>55699317. And it helps a company to have cheap labor in the fields of programming and IT.

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>>55699339
>barber
>78%
haha, must be nice getting a haircut in the us. no shitty talking and competent work on the hair. its most likely 78% females in europe

>>55708209
underrated.