ZeroNet thread? ZeroNet thread.

Literal botnet

>>55696602
Good

>>55696602
fuck off

>>55696602
That's the point you cocksniffer

>>55696573
KAT clone when?

>>55696845
Zerotorrent.bit

>>55696867
That's not a clone

What we need is a mirror of KAT.cr

>>55696890
>herp derp i'm retarded: the post

is it some kind of internet for ants? because that's what your image seems to imply

>>55696892
The fuck, did you turn off your brain?

>>55696890
It's getting there m8

Is this the new IPFS meme?

>>55696867
Why do I sometimes get 'initial sync in progress'?

Nothing happens after that. Doesn't happen on all queries though.

>>55696573
>>55696845
Yes, KAT is dead, it had all it's lives taken from what it's shown. I think ZeroTorrents can work out but the issue is we need more people, more content. It's not bad at all. It's just different and some people don't like that concept of something, specially /g/. They hate anything new. I am enjoying it due to the fact of how easy it is to use, how fast it is and the fact that it's so pretty and polished. You gotta admit to that point at least.

>>55696602
Bot•net
a network of private computers infected with malicious software and controlled as a group without the owners' knowledge, e.g., to send spam messages.

it's not botnet you jackass. You don't even know what a Botnet is

>>55696936
No, it's legit. zeronet.io. Go download it, unzip it, run the file, you may need to run the pythons in there too. I've read some people have had to.

>>55696573
Thanks for the entertainment OP, this is hilarious. I decided to try zeronet to see exactly how insecure it is instead of just ripping on it and it was fun. Within a few minutes of messing around on zerochan I noticed the locations the images were being stored and how they stayed the same for users between posts and threads. On investigating this further I found that the folders also contained all the information about every post that user had made on the board along with every image submitted, there is also a file that gives you their zeronet ID. I then loaded a few more sites to have a larger set of information to search and tried searching the zeronet ID using grep. Sure enough it came up with information about a post by that user on another site. Now if that isn't enough, all this data is nicely sorted in JSON files that can be loaded by some database software to make it even eaiser to search. Part of me wants to get out some old hard drives I have sitting around, dedicate a ton of storage space to this (I can do about 770 GB), and use the information to harass/dox posters. Given how the data is already setup to be used in a database it won't be hard to gather that information if the user posts it. I never thought I'd see the day when an actual open source botnet would be shilled on /g/.

>>55696573
Is it a public tracker? So the feds will eventually take it down like Kickass?

>>55696967
Is this the latest pasta?

>>55696955
The initial sync is mostly to sync with other people on the network supporting the site. Like a torrent, the more peers, the better. Lets say us 7 are on ZeroTorrent, that being said, we all can access it faster than most normal torrent sites.

>>55696967
So this is copy pasta. I had a feeling this was too nice. Thanks for making me realize this. Stop ruining things for people just cause you wanna troll.

>>55696974
Yes and no. We discussed this last night. The idea here is that it works like a torrent.

This of it as carrying a coffin, the more people hold it up, the lighter it gets.

Think of the sites on ZeroNet as torrents, the more peers you have the better.

Now with the feds, they can't possibly take down 200 people. Someone new will pop up and bring the site RIGHT back online. So in reality, they can't do shit as long as someone is hosting the OC

>>55696974
it's decentralized
so, for the feds to take it down, they'd have to take down all the people that are hosting it
if this catches on, it means it pretty much can't be taken down

>>55696967
>this pasta again
wew lad

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So what's the best way of using 0net?
DNSCrypt+Firefox+Privacy Badger+Decentraleyes+uBlock Origin?

Is Tor/VPN required?

>>55696974
Not possible this time, self hosted p2p network

>>55697000
Tor is good security on this part but essentially, I've heard no one getting into trouble. I have it in browser now just chillin on a forum. You're chill dude, as long as you have a fire wall, I'd say you're fine. The Zero Community seems pretty nice.

Thanks for the entertainment OP, this is hilarious. I decided to try zeronet to see exactly how insecure it is instead of just ripping on it and it was fun. Within a few minutes of messing around on zerochan I noticed the locations the images were being stored and how they stayed the same for users between posts and threads. On investigating this further I found that the folders also contained all the information about every post that user had made on the board along with every image submitted, there is also a file that gives you their zeronet ID. I then loaded a few more sites to have a larger set of information to search and tried searching the zeronet ID using grep. Sure enough it came up with information about a post by that user on another site. Now if that isn't enough, all this data is nicely sorted in JSON files that can be loaded by some database software to make it even eaiser to search. Part of me wants to get out some old hard drives I have sitting around, dedicate a ton of storage space to this (I can do about 770 GiB), and use the information to harass/dox posters. Given how the data is already setup to be used in a database it won't be hard to gather that information if the user posts it. I never thought I'd see the day when an actual open source botnet would be shilled on /g/.

>>55697018
you're late, someone beat you to the punch

>>55697000
Its core idea is that it's decentralized, not anonymous. If you're scared of getting v&, just use the precautions you normally would.

all other chans i found seem to be 120% shitty porn
get in here nerds

hiroshimoot thinks the link is spam
http://pastebin.com/4JLSYmk8

So this is basically my last option if I'm not in any private trackers and don't want to bother with the What interview?

On that note you guys could infiltrate all the private trackers, download all the files and upload them to ZeroNet, basically squash all competition

>>55697092
>0 peers
>2 posts

Noice

>>55697092
>hiroshimoot
>not moottwo

>>55697095
thats a cool idea but it's not even a private tracker, the setup is easier than going thru some asshole sekrit klub where you gotta send them an a rant about how you know the difference in audio, video, png, jpgs and more. This is just like tor, but the difference is all the sites are laid out on the main page. It's like going to the mall and knowing about the little shops in the corner that have their own names basically.

>no search engine werks

Send help

>>55696573
die fbi shill

>>55697167
>Zero search
>currently indexing 0 sites

>>55697167
127.0.0.1:43110/kaffiene.bit/

https://dotbit.me/
this is a thing

http://127.0.0.1:43110/kaffiene.bit/

>>55697175
>I think this is the FBI and have not been paying attention to shit for the last 2 days
>I'm just pretending to have autism/cancer/retardation

>>55697150
it's new
no bully pls

>>55697182
Doesn't werk either. Nothing loads except start page.

>running zeronet on home server
>werks from all my devices
>except port 15441 error

Forwarded it on the router, allowed it through ufw but it still won't see the port as open. Upnp is enabled too.

>>55697204
you fucked it up, try reinstalling

>>55697204
goto the folders and try running the python scripts, that worked for me

>>55697217
how did you get it to work on your tablets and shit?

>>55696573
Who is the creator of ZeroNet? Is ZeroNet basically a network inside of a network? Like a darknet without Tor, also is it usable with Tor?

How does a ZeroNet user make sure their information doesn't get compromised?

Any chans on ZeroNet?

>>55697236
Followed guide in the zeronet FAQ about remote machines

Then use it via server IP:43110

????

Profit

I'm using the python scripts already.

I found a place on here with magnet links but 4chan thinks it's spam, I guess I can drop the links some place else.

the TV section of KATs if any one is interested

>>55697288
you know more than I do

>>55697334
Put it on pastebin

Its based in hungary so dont expect so many good things from it, the goberment here is 3rd world tier

Zeronet is dead in the water.

>>55697391
well, if you goto Kaffiene, type in torrent, look for TV. The search engine works off tags.

>>55697092
>two peers
>both appear to be in germany
SCHATZ VERGISS MEIN NICHT

>>55696573
I just tried this shit. It stinks to arse. Fuck ZeroNet.

>>55697092
FUUUUCKK I BORKED IT
shamefur dispray
trying to get it running again

Not a lot of stuff to do on here.

>>55697473
keep it seeded for a while
once it spreads you can disconnect

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>0mail

Eventually someone will upload CP on it and everyone that has it installed on their computer will be found guilty of distributing CP since you're now effectively a host like TPB and KAT.

>but they wont go after me
you're only fooling yourself, the police care more about CP than they do about homicide, plus I dont want to be part of a ring that distributes that shit in the first place considering everyone involved in the production/distribution/watching are the shittiest people of humanity and deserve to be fucking shot.

No thank you. Ill stick to my private trackers.

>>55697536
not yet, but a lot of us have see potential

>>55697546
only between zeroman users

>>55697547
only if you goto the sites, if you stay away from them, you're essentially fine. This could be the reason as to why no one has uploaded CP to it

>>55697547
Oh shit, I never thought about that. Uninstalling now.

>>55697547
but it uses tor it must be safe!

>>55697547
This.

>>55697547
>Paying to torrent
kek

>>55697537
welp, apparently it fucks up if i try to make new boards
might make a new one with proper board names etc, but i'll have to keep it low since posting volume won't be that big
which boards should be there?

>>55697556
I don't see a lot of potential. No server side scripting, uses a lot of storage space etc.

HOW OD I REMOVE IT

>>55697584
/b/ /g/ /lgbt/ /r9k/
actually, there is a fuckload of overlap there

>>55697592
you don't :--DDDDDD

>>55697582
>paying to get invites

how about you get a better connection and automate your torrenting on your server machine, leave the torrents on for a 2.0 ratio or 14 days then auto delete them afterwards you tech illiterate.

Doesn't even affect my browsing.

>>55697588
Are actually you expecting dynamic websites?

>>55697609
How the fuck is that even relevant, autistic NEETfag?

>>55697584
/a/ - weeb stuff

>0chan
>you must sign in to post
>can stay your name or go anon
FUCKING THIS! THIS IS WHAT 4CHAN NEEDS!

>>55697588
Oh well then. I think we just need more people to join in

>>55697592
goto the bottom and make sure you turned it off. You will see in your up hidden icons. then go whereever you put your zeronet bundle and delete it.

You wont be able to access the sites with out those folders


________________

the sites been up since last year and either people have more respect for this Zeronet or people have taken down the CP shit. So I'm thinking because these sites are hosted like torrents, we don't have to worry about someone taking down things if no one helps host the sites at all. They just cease to exist unless 1 guy does it all from his computer, the day he shuts it off and no one is on it, the day it goes directly down.

>>55697612
I'm expecting a kat.cr mirror, which isn't possible unless everyone downloads the whole database. So yes, I am expecting dynamic websites. For static websites and files IPFS is more suited.

>>55697656
>everyone downloads the whole database. So yes, I am expecting dynamic websites


What?

>>55697645
Because you said
>paying to torrent
and I implied that you were a shit seeder thus needed to pay to gain entry to sites.

If you dont even have a dedicated machine for server related shit, why are you even on /g/?

Why would I want to be part of a literally meme botnet

>>55697686
Go back to /ptg/ you oppaiti.me memester

LONG LIVE ZERONET

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who the fuck had this idea?

>>55697686
Bot•net
a network of private computers infected with malicious software and controlled as a group without the owners' knowledge, e.g., to send spam messages.

you have no idea what botnet is do you?

>>55697678
>If you dont even have a dedicated machine for server related shit, why are you even on /g/?
>implying every single person has the money for buy a meme server
BECAUSE WE ALL ARE RICH AS FUCK RIGHT?
We get it, you're an etlitest

>>55697678
>If you dont even have a dedicated machine for server related shit, why are you even on /g/?
Wow you are really proud of your homeserver, aren't you, newbabby? First week of setting up? Seems like you are fucking forgetting your own place.

>torrent sites
>no harm to the user outside of someone logging your IP of something
>very very very rarely happens
>the host is the one the government, copyright holders and similar care about
>minimal risk to end users


>ZeroNet
>you take on ALL the risks
>but it's okay because other people do as well

Are you people retarded? Why would you accept MORE risk in something that ruins the lives of people involved? Not to mention when serious illegal shit like CP/SMUT/other illegal shit starts to emerge like >>55697547 said.

The only thing this entire system benefits is the old hosts who get decreased risk.

Also to the people who already installed it, you better fucking hope this shit takes off or else you'll be sitting alongside 1000ish people facing serious charges the moment something serious gets uploaded.

>>55697714
Holy shit are you retarded, you can get a Raspberry Pi with a 1TB HD for 60$ for all your torrenting needs

>>55697714
Literally buy a raspberry pi if you cant afford anything else, you fucking tech illiterate /v/tard.

>>55697728
Why are you even on /g/?

>>55697732
>>55697739
huh, no I didn't know that. That does sound like a cool idea.

I do own a pie but it's like A+ and I can't do really shit with it. I've been wanting one of the new pi's this gives me an idea. Sorry for being a dimwit guys, pls forgiv

>are you retarded
ONLY ON 4CHAN!

>>55697609
oh, it's a fucking piece of shit who never reseeds anything and is completely useless in any community. i sincerely hope everyone you love or care about dies in pain you fucking piece of shit.

>>55697767
To insult newbabbies like you

>>55697796
I have a 3:1 ratio or higher on every site I'm a member of, what the fuck are you even implying?

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>>55697811
Wow, I care so much that someone calls me a newbabbie.

>>55697844
Are you going to cry now with the your server you learnt to set up last week?

Why not just make a torrent tracker on FreeNet or I2P?

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>>55697872
the power of gnu compells you

>>55697729
Especially when modern botnet OSes scan all your files and anything with a CP hash will phone home to get you autovanned

Some people are gonna get fucked so hard by this.

>>55697904
>client written in java
>java
lol no thanks

>>55697826
That's okay but don't matter in the long run. I presume you're only on mainstream trackers, but if you weren't the biggest pleb, you'd see an 8 years old Hong Kong vampire kung fu movie snatched like 130 times. How would it be alive if everyone was a dumb faggot like you?

>>55697584
>>55697473
>>55697092
I don't even know, apparently it throws a shitfit if you try having more than one board
whatever, i'll look into it later

>>55697950
I only download the tv shows and movies then seed them so that more people have the data than before I downloaded which in my mind is a fair since I've distributed more than I've downloaded.

I'm not in it for political or archival reasons so I couldn't give less fucks about things that I don't personally download myself.

>>55697950
I don't have infinite harddrive space, you fucking sperglord.

>>55697729
Your ip is logged for almost every torrent you download. It's pretty easy information to find. Most people just never think about it

>>55698078
it's minimal risk because they never act upon it since you're not the host (giving the torrent links out).

If you're on zeronet you become the host thereby increasing the risk tenfolds.

>>55696573

Good job posting a thumbnail for your infographic pic

>>55698078
It's only logged if you connect to the companies that log.

No ordinary user is going to sit at the PEER list and copy down every IP that pops up.

>>55698098
again, the point of zeronet is not at all anonimity, it's resilience to takedown. i.e., it'd be pretty hard for the feds to take down thousands of people at the same time.
if you're concerned about getting v&, use TOR

>>55698099
>OP is a faggot
you though it was a joke?

>>55698133
What do you think will happen when users starts hosting the fucking content links themselves?

Like I said earlier, better hope this thing takes off and gains a serious userbase or else everyone that is currently involved is already fucked the moment someone uploads something illegal.

Can already see the news headline, "biggest CP ring in history now taken down by the cops in a joint-nation operation". And who said they had to take down all 1000s at the same time?

>>55698133
>use TOR

TOR isn't safe and do you expect the average user connecting to this shit to be able to keep himself safe from police investigation?

>>55698203
I tested Tor. It's safe.

>>55696573
I can't wait till this gets ruined by normalfags and fags who want to turn this into their own political hugbox. There are no good things in this world.

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>>55698227
>I tested Tor. It's safe.

>>55698235
we tell normies it's really complicated to setup and don't let them on and so on.
if you tell them "it has these python scripts and coding and checking and..." and make it sound complicated, they wont do it.

>>55696573
>are you on the botnet that tracks your every posts even going through multiple IPs or connections and allows everyone and anyone to know which content you posted across sites with a simple grep?
Hmmmmm really...... makes me............. think.

>>55698244
Not him, but every known exploit has been either JavaScript related or browser related, it's using Firefox ESR after all. There has not been a single exploit for the onion protocol or the tor network.

>>55696936
No, IPFS doesn't track you across IPs, connections and sites unlike zeronet.

>>55696997
>the Feds can't possibly take down 200 people

If you fall for this, you're just asking to get vanned

>>55698203
even I managed to get tor running with zeronet and I'm a tor retard

>>55698285
You didn't. All you managed to do was get to slow down the entire tor network while having 0 extra privacy due to your ID being tracked across tunnels.

>>55698279
im not hosting anything illegal, not currently, maybe torrents at most but even then, I'm not downloading anything currently.

The way it works is that you have to host a site/peer it I guess?
So I'm fine. if something that could get me vanned pops up on these, then I wont have anything to do with it.

>>55698277
Go shitpost somewhere else fag, every single exploit used by FBI was either browser or JavaScript related. Tor itself is safe, using TBB and JavaScript is when you start risking security.

>>55698296
But I DID get it running.

>>55698311
I never said it's not safe, I said >>55698227 is a colossal mongoloid.

>>55698311
Good thing it's impossible to even see a website over zeronet without javascript fully enabled then right?

Stop the name calling or you're grounded!

>>55698350
fuck off ur not my real mum

>>55698355
Don't fucking speak to my wifes son again you fuck

>>55697702
is this the memelord Glitchiebyte from last thread?

>>55698355
GOTO YOUR ROOM! NO DESERT FOR YOU!

>>55698383
Must be that shill again. Who else would be this desperately from reddit?

>>55698383
No, I'm just not stupid. There's a difference.

>>55698398
>Who else would be this desperately from reddit?
What does this even mean?

>>55698408
>Anonymous.zip
do you have a fetish for nicknames or what the fuck is up with you?
you really just cant leave that name blank

>>55698398
god

>>55698420
>420
shit anon
No, I cannot leave it blank. its not like you know who I am.

People only chill zeronet because they've already fucked up by downloading it. The only way they'll get out of the fuckup that they have gotten themselves into is recruiting more people into the fuckup until they are so many they cannot be properly prosecuted.

Dont buy into it.

>>55698736
The no anonymity thing is a big turnoff. But I imagine that a lot of these p2p websites devs are doubting whether or not to include it because it would mean pedo's.

On the other hand, it would also mean political dissenters in foreign nations being busted.

>>55698736
This ZeroNet threads should be banned from /g/ because it's literally malware botnet that will get you arrested unless you trick more people into the botnet.

>>55698757
It also means having the wrong opinion gets you fired and blacklisted, and it also means anonymous posting is impossible.

>>55698757
>>55698760
>open normal webpage
>oh fuck it's CP
>you downloaded CP, but didn't host it for others

>open 0net webpage
>oh fuck it's CP
>immediately delete it
>you downloaded CP, but didn't host it for others

Where is the big difference?

>>55698786
Yea, the p2p website projects should have anonymity as one of the basic (yet extremely secure) tenements. The pedo stuff does not compare to the likes of wikileaks, free speech in (jew) controlled countries and the circumvention of shitty laws (like guns in europe)

>>55698818
>immediately
Hmm.....

>>55698834
Or just "hate speech" laws which means swedes are not allowed to speak badly of immigration, germans are not allowed to talk about the holocaust or nazis in any way, americans are not allowed to dislike anybody at all, etc.

>>55698818
Like we've seen with torrents, just hosting the links to connect users to eachother means you are responsible.

also, I'd like to see you be faster than light because "human immediately" isn't fast enough and you might have shared the content.


TO ALL NEW READERS: Do not download and install zeronet. It transfers all the risk and consequence onto you, the user. The people who want you to install is the people who have already fallen for the scam and now need more people to use the service in order to not be prosecuted.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD.

>>55698927
>living in a third world shithole where your data is constantly monitored
>not taking appropriate precautions
shiggy

>>55698846
Yea, an anonymous version of facebook for example would be nice. It would help those nations a fuckton.

Sorry to say but, a bunch of kiddy molestors who already are persecuted in real life dont compare to the struggles of a whole nation like that. Where its people are being oppressed and haunted by a bunch of filthy kikes.

The kiddy molestors number few in and are basically something like glorified and weird train enthusiast autistic people.

Its kinda like the argument about guns. There are millions people out there who use the guns to protect themselves, while in comparison, the unlawful use of the guns numbers only something to like 0.1% (where niggers, gangs and suicides number more)

I would say its worth it.

And you dont have a different option either. Because any kind of entry into that firewall the kikes will use to break EVERYTHING. They will flood it with kiddy porn just to have an excuse. So it does not fucking matter. Its either anonymity and security for all, or no one. We we dont want the no one.

>>55698973
>precauctions

Like what? using only burner machines on public wi-fi hooked up to TOR?

sorry if you already downloaded, but stop trying to make other people be in the same amount of shit you are currently in.

It can actually be useful in Turkey (yes, Turkishfag. Laugh all you want.).

>>55698995
>but stop trying to make other people be in the same amount of shit you are currently in
>implying that's what's happening
flush urself my mate

Is there even a decent site to watch?

Can someone make a screencap of this zeronet shill?

It's literally non stop now

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>>55699398

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>>55699447
umm

I wish I could host from an old Android phone.
Now that'd be dope

>>55699495
you can

>>55696573
>new

I really want to see the point in this but no one really explains anything

>>55699522
Link?

>>55698757
On zerochan you have the option of using your name or anonymous. so either way it's fine.

>>55698760
>it's malware
>malware is harmful to your PC
I've seen nothing of the sort so far.

>>55698846
LOL you live in GA and you're white, you can say whatever you want and someone will listen. I'm white and I get away with everything. The only thing black people get away with is"IT'S BECAUSE IM BLACK AINT IT?"
Fucking south.

>>55699387
ZeroTorrents right now.

>>55699598
>>55699522
>>55699495
is there an APK for it?

>>55698279
>The feds can't possibly take down 200 people, all hosting the website on their individual computers, under all sorts of different juristictions and laws and potentially running it through tor.
Pretty much.

>>55699696
>zerochan
nullchan

>>55696997
>Now with the feds, they can't possibly take down 200 people.

You haven't been paying attention then.

>Someone new will pop up and bring the site RIGHT back online. So in reality, they can't do shit as long as someone is hosting the OC

Which just makes it into a honey pot.

>>55699744
ah yes, the classical case of tripfag retardation

>>55699757
The only ones retarded in this thread are the people that actually install this shit. It's basically signing your own arrest warrant.

Since this shit is decentralized, and there will be nodes in the US, the FBI will claim jurisdiction and get your ass extradited to the US for trial, assuming they don't just snatch your ass up and toss you in a secret prison.

>>55699696
>you have the option of using your name or your name.
FTFY

>>55699800
oh shit, thanks for warning me. i uninstalled it, am i safe?

>157 posts
>36 unique posters

the shilling is strong with this thread

>>55699715
>nullchan
lel

>>55699714
basically this, they can't touch someone in sweden, sweden can touch someone in china, china can't touch someone in Canada and so on


>>55699744
Can I see what you're talking about?
>honey pot
Oh I do agree, I think it's possible however the concept of the P2P hosting is there, if enough people say "we want nothing to do with it" you wont host it at all.
The GOV has better things to do then give a flying shit about you and your Seakrit klub on the interweebs whackin it to loli and tranny porn.

>>55699800
the gov hasn't stopped me from torrent TV shows and music and movies on DVD, what do you think is going to stop them now?

Most ISPs don't give a shit about your torrenting like Comcrap does. Charter hasn't sent me a letter yet. I've been all over the internet and found a bit of everything I wish I had never seen. I can say the most illegal thing I've EVER done on the internet is download a torrent. But again, they can't prove I don't own it on DVD or DVR.

>>55699836
Your name or Anonymous. Stop being dumb

>>55699859
>am i safe?
No, considering you had it installed at one point. Just like at KAT. He broke no laws in his country, but at some point in the past he had a server hosted in the US. Even though that is no longer the case, they still used it as justification to grab him.

>>55699923
>The GOV has better things to do then give a flying shit about you and your Seakrit klub on the interweebs

At least until their corporate masters tell them otherwise. Why do you think they are suddenly going all out against torrent sites?

>>55696573
What level of encryption is included with this software?

>>55696999
What is stopping an alphabet agency from setting up a node themselves and collecting all data?

>>55699923
>your name or your name because everything is available to everyone at any time despite the default site display
Kill yourself shill.

>>55699956
>What level of encryption is included with this software?
TLS
>What is stopping an alphabet agency from setting up a node themselves and collecting all data?
Even a private citizen can just download an arbitrary site and collect someone's ID and possibly IP. At least, the zeroid site MUST log IPs to know if a user is allowed to generate a new ID, so the association MUST exist in the network.

>>55699913
>36 unique posters

All the MemeNet users are here then XDDDD Who's gonna take them flowers when their in jail for the very illegal and immoral shit strangers are gonna host ON THEIR COMPUTERS?

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>>55699975
Thank you for the info.

>>55699953
They are mostly taking down the uploaders. They don't care about us downloaders. I think I uploaded like 1 episode of something about 2 years ago.

>>55699965
>I'm too much of a pussy to use it and have no idea how it works
shut the fuck up already anon

>>55699977
>imma goto JAIL for something this dumb

Nothing I'm doing or anyone here is illegal (yet)

>>55699999
>>55600000
Who has these number?

>>55699923
>>nullchan
>lel
No, really. 0chan is the page, but the board software is called nullchan. You're talking about a property ("you have the option of using your name or anonymous") inherent to nullchan.

>>55699999
GOD DAMN IT.
YOU GOT IT

Oh right yeah, Sorry anon I completely forgot, still you have to admit the new style OF the board is interesting. I don't know how I feel about it.

>>55699999
>>55700000 who the fuck?
Oh wait, I see what I did wrong

>>55699988
>be shill
>try to lie about how the system works
>when even users of the system have produced proof-of-concepts to show its flaws
How much do you get paid?

>>55699999
Even if you post as anonymous, everyone can see the ID you posted with with a simple grep.

>>55700039
I fucking wish. I see a product I like I tell people about it. Unlike you, I don't hold it to my chest and go "MY PRECIOUS! ONLY MINE! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY WITH IT!"

>>55699800
>Since this shit is decentralized, and there will be nodes in the US, the FBI will claim jurisdiction and get your ass extradited to the US for trial
that's not how it works you mong

>>55700064
5 rupees in thank you for kindly do the needful.

>>55696959
>j-just download and install this binary blob, goy
>n-not a botnet at all

>>55700055
>everyone can see the ID you posted with with a simple grep
not just that, but they can see every post you ever made on the board, handily grouped up :^)
i do agree that it still needs some work

>>55696573
>this could be the next big thing
T. Tabloid news

>>55700083
A WHOLE 5 RUPEES? GOSH GOLLY THANK YOU MISTER!

>>55700089
>still using a word i dont know how to use.

>>55700135
>still shilling for honeypot technology

>>55700092
I don't know if that's true anymore. There's just way too many issues and I think only a completely different network properly engineered from scratch not to have these issues could possibly work.

>>55700153
kk

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what's up with eastern china?

>>55699988
They go after the people hosting. With this shit, everyone is a host. It will also give them the ammunition they need to criminalize piracy, like they have been wanting for awhile now.

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>>55700181
>not an argument
as expected of kike shills

>>55700189
inb4 the devs are chinese

>>55700079
Tell that to the owners of KAT or Megaupload.

>>55700207
ah yes, the classical case of tripfag retardation

>>55699800
As the WWW, Zeronet is not made to keep things secret but to share content.

Until we get quantic encryption no one should share secrets on the Internet, and x86 processors have backdoors and security breaches everywhere. If you want to MITM a whole nation just exploit breaches from its top 10 ISP modem's processors, write a recursive algorithm and own the fucking box. That's why OTR includes a secret passphrase: they made it so a third-party server couldn't replicate it, so you should call your contact and ask them what the passphrase it everytime you reach them.

Zeronet is distributed (and not decentralized, holy shit, decentralized means there are several servers that gather data when distributed means data is on all end-users' terminals. With Google, Microsoft and Facebook just look at how "decentralized" the web is). To be safe you should obviously use TOR – through Qubes OS or a Whonix VM obviously – and don't share CP (which means avoiding sites such as 0chan). 0torrent.bit is a magnet host, you're safe. And arresting all Zeronet users, without any other warrant than illegal download, would be plain useless as long as there is some Swiss guy who shares the magnet addresses (that's probably no more than a heavy-loaded torrent client).

>>55698927
shut the fuck up I just runend the .sh and I fucked up, pls, don't ltell them
fuck imma go on /b/

>>55700235
This is a technology board where people are expected to know about technology. You seem to be looking for the paranormal board, >>>/x/

>>55700192
By time it hits us, the smaller users, most of us will either stop and completely delete everything or jump IP. That's not very complicated.

>>55700196
What's the point in arguing? I see no point with you or any one against ZeroNet. It's a waste of time trying to convince you. You don't want to use it, that's up to you. I told you why I enjoy it, that's all that matters

>>55700207
But didn't mega comback as mega drive? Or are they 2 different places?

>>55700227
Ah yes, the classical case of the anon that can't argue back.

>>55696573
>tfw no love for I2P

>>55700262
>initial release 14 years ago
>current version 0.9.26
lmao

>>55696845
www.dxtorrent.com

>>55700256
>But didn't mega comback as mega drive?
The owner is still fighting extradition.

>>55698927
Note that this wouldn't be a problem without IDs, forced javascript, the ability of people to arbitrarily alter the content they have already uploaded - bypassing any sanitation or content type restriction -, lack of friend-to-friend networking and lack of indirect routing all at the same time.

>>55700253
I know the knowledge my relatives share to me, and some of them are pretty good.

If you don't have anything else to say don't try or GTFO

>>55698927
DELETE THIS

>>55700262
>java
>bugs out the ass despite its age, including connection stagnation, crashes, configs reverting after some runtime, etc.
>fuckall users, pretty damned slow because of that
>no good eeepsites
>not distributed nor decentralized, hosting-wise

>>55700256
>it's a waste of time trying to convince you.
Desu, there are 197 posts and 45 IP addresses, don't waste your time with these shills

>>55700311
>4 posts per person
that's not that much, you know?

>>55700256
Too bad your IP gets tracked even when you change it because of IDs.

>>55700311
>there are 197 posts and 45 IP addresses
That's around 4 posts each. That tends to happen in discussions.

>>55700320
That's only if they're distributed evenly. In reality, there's one or two people with a total of 80%+ of all posts, and then everyone else has 1-2 posts.

>>55700321
>doesn't know you can change IDs
baka

>>55700338
Only once per 6 hours per IP, and also to enforce that your IP MUST be tracked and associated with a generated ID.

>>55700320 >>55700332
Are you implying they should waste their time convincing you and your shilling pals?

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>>55700335

>>55700287
Isn't that what paragway(?) is for?

>>55700311
meh

>>55700321
even if it gets tracked, I'm currently not doing shit on any site there cept talking on the main mini chat thingy...

>>55700360
This guy was replying to me, can you please use a tripcode so I can filter you? :)

>>55700364
They have frozen all his assets.

>>55700462
thats fucking stupid.

>>55696573
>Zeronet
Zeronet is a terrible implementation of a decent idea. Let me explain why

Zeronet uses a global identifier to make just about everything related to dynamic content easy. This is a terrible idea because anyone can replace their identifier, lose their identifier, or be traced across sites, and between sessions. One connection outside of Tor and you're fucked

Zeronet uses Tor for privacy, while being a bittorrent derivative. Tor devs routinely beg people not to torrent through Tor because it is an abuse of network resources, and runs the risk of essentially DDoSing the entire Tor network.

Zeronet is not forward thinking. Protocols like IPFS use content addressing to eliminate the issue of a fragmented swarm, and i2p uses a meshnet for a network that doesn't suffer under heavy load, because capacity increases linearly with the userbase. Zeronet uses none of these

Zeronet has a cripplingly small maximum site size. While this doesn't exclude many uses, for a general torrent indexing, it is simply too small

cont.

>>55701591
what about a VPN?

>>55696573
>willingly seeding faggots reddit circle jerk


fuck off reddit

>>55701591
200th post best post

>>55701635
Same issue as tor except you're not fucking up the whole tor network in that case.

>>55701591
If we're going to assume that the days of surface web public torrent indexes (TPB, KAT, Torrentz, Nyaa, etc etc) are over (which I think is a dubious claim, but that's another discussion), then we ought to look at solving more problems at the same time than just the sites themselves. Don't support a mediocre improvement on old tech. We have the foundation for an anonymous, untrackable, unstoppable, non-fragmented, peer to peer filesharing protocol.

Users don't like to switch software very often. If they switch to Zeronet, they'll likely stick with it for a decade. Since peer to peer file sharing works best at large scales with many users, Zeronet will essentially steal the spotlight from better alternatives. If you REALLY care about the future of file sharing, don't settle.

>>55696573
tried it once
downloaded the movie Maggie (with Governator)
few weeks later I receive an email from Hadopi (french antip2p)
they got an eye specificaly on me for the next 6 months
zeronet is not privacy ready yet

>>55701697
hadopi is a fucking joke, literally the only way to get caught is to be a massive retard
t. frenchfag who torrented ~4 TB, mostly on public trackers, and never got anything

Is this thing actually worth it? I've seen a ton of people shilling it here which raises some suspicion of whether or not I should actually use it.
The only thing I would use it for anyway is downloading shit and nothing else.
Does it work like a private tracker where I have to seed as well?

>>55701591
>Tor devs routinely beg people not to torrent through Tor because it is an abuse of network resources, and runs the risk of essentially DDoSing the entire Tor network
but that's irrelevant, traffic volume of standard browsing is microscopic compared to torrenting media

>>55701683
Exactly, which is why it's especially important to stop these threads and to constantly remind people who are thinking about zeronet of its critical inherent flaws.

>>55701683
>i did not read quote,so ill continue shilling zeronet this time without my tripcode

>>55701732
>The only thing I would use it for anyway is downloading shit and nothing else.
>Does it work like a private tracker where I have to seed as well?
consider it as a public tracker that virtually can't be taken down, nothing more
definitely use it if you feel strongly against DCMA etc, you'll help building a system that is extremely hard, compared to standard public trackers, to take down
definitely don't use it (without TOR at least) if you feel strongly about your privacy

>>55701697
You're not torrenting the file over zeronet, though, you downloaded the torrent over zeronet and used your client to connect to a public swarm on the clearnet.

>>55701785
Did you even read his post?

>>55701787
Thanks for the summary. So it's no more safe than just downloading something from kat or another torrent site with public trackers, but I've never had any issues with that before.
I'll look into this as soon as I get home.

>>55701821
significantly LESS safe than using a adblock-free, js-enabled clearnet public tracker in the same browser where you're logged into google and facebook, actually.

>>55701668
Ah ok

>>55701697
like the dude below you said, you're fine. They aren't gonna do shit.
jumping IP is super easy.


>>55701782
I'm not use to the other torrent sites, and the amt of times The bay and Isohunt has been taken down, can you honestly blame me in thinking this?

>>55701785
>>55701820
>"STOP DOING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND OR DISAGREE WITH! NOD YOUR HEAD AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT!!"

>>55701799
Not even that, you're copying and pasting a bit of text in the form of a magnet link.

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>Elliptic curve encryption
Into the trash it goes

>>55701820
yes fag you are shilling.
Anon mentions point of why the implementation of zero net is dubious and a shitty start while all you do is babble on about we need alternative to torrent indexes without mention any of the points of whom your quoting.Instead you talk about user issue with new systems

>>55701855
Oh the irony.

>>55701635
VPN traffic happens on a specific port (very obvious), costs money, requires you fully trust your provider, provides very little protection relative to free and open solutions like Tor and i2p.

>>55701697
Zeronet is literally just torrents, but with a program to display the content on a local web server, and to provide world wide web-like functionality like an SQL database, content signing, etc etc. It does NOTHING to hide who you are, or what you are downloading.

>>55701732
I'd suggest reading my posts >>55701591 and >>55701683 and then doing your own research.

>>55701752
Even if we assume that Zeronet itself is not more bandwidth heavy than clearnet browsing, we can't just rely on Tor as a universal, unlimited bandwidth anonymizing network for the masses. If every Tom Dick and Harry start using Tor for regular browsing, the network will get swamped. This is why peer to peer anonymizing networks are being developed.

>>55701785
I'm not a tripfag, and my post is explicitely against the adoption of Zeronet. Reread pls

>>55701886
>>>/x/

>>55701894
>we can't just rely on Tor as a universal, unlimited bandwidth anonymizing network for the masses. If every Tom Dick and Harry start using Tor for regular browsing, the network will get swamped.
the masses would never use it anyway, Bobby McNormie just wants to doubleclick the "e" icon and shitpost on facebook

>>55701894
>the network will get swamped
Resource availability scales with amount of nodes in the network, though.

>>55701890
I'm completely ok with people not liking things I don't like, I don't bitch about it. If you don't want to use ZeroNet at all or even question it, then just leave. It's a waste of your time
>"LULZ! IM JUST HERE TO TROLL THE THREAD!"
Are you 12?

>>55701894
>>55701909
I have to agree with the 2nd guy here. Normies don't know the first thing about these things.
>"hey anon I heard you're going to college for music! That's cool. I've always wanted to be in a band!"
>"Oh no, I'm going for music design and other things like EDM and Music Game composing."
>"Sounds hard!"
>"Not really. I could show you where to start. It's pretty simple. It just takes a bit of trying"
>dumbanon asks more questions
>shows him how to use FL studio
>says he will watch some videos
>gets a notifications on his phone
>stops paying attention
>3 weeks later
>"How's your FL studio coming around?"
>"Oh that? It was too complicated so I stopped"

>"Anon, whats an Em-YOU-later?"

So what is the difference between this software and the other one that /g/ was talking about a few months ago. I think it was called IPFS

>>55702011
The only thing I think /g/ really likes is the idea that it can't be taken down so easily and everyone basically hosts it...

>>55701787
>tracker
Wrong. Zeronet supports torrent indexes. And only of a relatively small size due to website size restraints. It can't function as a replacement for public trackers.

>>55701821
It's less safe as you'll likely be hosting the site index yourself.

>>55701875
ECC isn't intrinsically bad. It's just that the NSA backdoor implementation got everyone scared about it. ECC is actually really easy to scale up for stronger encryption.

>>55701886
I think you're misreading the thread. >>55701683 and >>55701591 were both written by me.

>>55701909
Perhaps, but my issue is also that Zeronet doesn't become secure just from using Tor, or any other proxy. It's actually very much not secure, and in fact dangerous to the user, unless extreme caution is taken in its usage

>>55701916
But nodes aren't free, and don't just appear as more users do. I doubt more nodes will appear to accommodate Chad and Stacy who just want to netflix and chill without paying for netflix.

>>55701985
It'll be more like
>retard hears that Zeronet is secure
>reads trash article telling him to pipe through Tor
>does so
>fucks network
>fucks himself because he was already using it before
>caught with CP because he didn't flush the domain and has beeen seeding the shit for a month, and feds backtrace his id with his old pre-Tor connections, and pseudo-social media posting.
There are simply too many ways it can go wrong. It's just a poorly concieved implementation

>>55702044
Most of what you're saying is correct, but do keep in mind that, as of now at least, it's not meant to be any more anonymous than clearnet browsing. It's supposed to be resilient.

>>55702084
>not content addressable
It's still mediocre in it's implementation.

>>55702044
>There are simply too many ways it can go wrong. It's just a poorly concieved implementation
This feels like a 1/100th concept that would happen to normie mcfaglord

>>55702084
do you mean the whole concept of seeding and P2P thing?

>>55702095
Would it work for something like 4chan? Some boards I can NEVER post on and gives me connection errors a lot.

>>55699714

and the result is this: the site is up and you are v&

>>55702044

>>55702111
>This feels like a 1/100th concept that would happen to normie mcfaglord
I have no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean

>Would it work for something like 4chan? Some boards I can NEVER post on and gives me connection errors a lot.
Even assuming that the website is programmed correctly, the maximum amount of content is some 10 MB (can't find the exact amount, but it's hard limited to some number like that)

The current active amount of content on 4chan is 739 GB

Long story short, no.

>>55702237
>the maximum amount of content is some 10 MB
And why the fuck do you think you're allowed voice your opinion without even looking at the fucking thing?
The default limit is 10 MB, but it can be extended indefinitely if need be.

>>55702237
i mean the likely hood would be really fucking high

you know there's that 1 guy that has a huge HDD

Lets say to be on 4chan you have to host up to 3 boards. Minimum 50MB a piece. so if everyone gave a share and kept the site running, wouldn't that be a good thing?

The only thing that would stay in your files is the text. so even then, you can delete it, but when the thread 404's the images would delete.

Think of it like this, if 4chan ran like this, less retarded content would be on here because people would fear that someone is uploading CP, which is why I think no one is using ZeroNet for such things. they are too scared of getting vanned. Hosting a torrent site? It's another story. If anything, they are hosting the initial site, not hosting the content, and even then, hosting a torrent VS downloading it's contents are 2 totally different things.

>>55702300
this too

>>55702300
I just looked it up. It's 20MB default, it can be extended, but the way Zeronet works is that websites are downloaded in their entirety, so a website like 4chan (700 GB) would require you to download 700 GB worth of data. Alternatively they provide a means of making certain files 'optional', but I don't know how this is supposed to work (looking into a proof of concept right now)

>>55702354
You don't get to pick and choose what parts of a website to seed. You seed the website.

btw, new boards
http://pastebin.com/4JLSYmk8

open to suggestions of course

>>55701591
I don't think this is meant to anonymize you faggot.

>>55702450
well of course not.

>>55702471
Well the developers would like to disagree with you.

>Anonymity
>You can easily hide your IP address using the Tor network.
It's not anonyimity.

>>55702451
C-can we have a Nintendo board?
If no it's ok.

>>55702515
That's using Tor to anonymize which is a completely different project.

>>55702549
You're missing the point. There's no way to anonymize Zeronet. You have a universal id.

>>55702538
jus 4 u anon :333

>>55702450
You only download what you need, so you wouldn't be downloading the full website if you're visiting just one thread, unless you opt-in into the whole-site-seeding thing.

>>55696573
> shilling so hard for a honeytrap

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>>55702614
:O

>>55702712
>

Freenet already does this.
>its slow
Its slow becuse there are only about 2000 nodes and only ~120tb of datastore

Faggots need to jump in

So is it as easy to track people on 0net as some are saying?

>>55702809
Not even remotely similar in any way.

>>55702809

one would think 2000 nodes is more than enough for it to be not crippling slow. It's slow because of some strange routing mechanism, higher anonymity though.

>>55702820
Correct, freenet isnt an offical botnet.Everything is handled properly, And not in plain source
>>55702823
Tor has more then 2000 nodes and look how slow it is.

It takes

>>55702855
Tor is super-fast nowadays. Fuck off. Freenet is a dead-end.

>>55699398

just go the the archives and cap yourself

>>55702855
>Tor has more then 2000 nodes and look how slow it is.

TOR also does routing over many nodes for anonymity. ZERONET is not safe but it just directly connects, so it's faster.

Retroshare is the way to go 2bh familytachi

>>55702863
>super-fast
it's not cripplingly slow, i'll give you that

>>55702863
>super fast
If you you consider under 1MB/s as fast, ok then sure.
Do you know how many exit nodes are run by fbi/nsa/dhs?
Not even worth the risk AT ALL.
>but but but im not doing anything illegal.
Then why are you using tor?

>>55702874
Freenet's HTL is 15-20 nodes. Using freshly inserted keys, it takes a couple hours to download even movie rips.

>>55702809
Freenet isn't comparable. Freenet is just a data store

>>55699714

They will only go after the ones in US soil or are under US jurisdiction like Vaulin was

>>55702809

Is Frost still a thing or is it dead?

>>55703008

Well so is the Interwebz

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>>55696573
>Hey kids, want to be a part of the best botnet ever? Screw torrents, install these .exe files and be cool like me!

>>55703116
>implying implications

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>>55696573
>Hey kids, want to a part of the best internet ever, without any normies? Just comply to hosting CP if someone does!

>>55703075
It's dead man, FMS remplaced it

>>55703154

Oh man cant wait till it gets spammed with CP everywhere like it happened on Freenet

>>55703170
How are things on FMS?

>hey, i2p could be the next big thing
>hey, freenet could be the next big thing
>hey, tor could be the next big thing
>hey, retroshare could be the next big thing
>hey, ipfs could be the next big thing
>hey, zeronet could be the next big thing

Go ahead and give me a call when it's dead. Oh wait, it already is.

>>55703275
Tor IS a big thing retard

>>55703237
Well it's not bad, they solved the spam and security issues with FMS but Web of Trust (i don't know if it was present when Frost was out) is needed ...

>>55703275
Tor is a massive thing, and i2p is pretty big (especially torrenting-wise). Git gud retard.

>>55703338

thanks senpai

>>55703303

Yeah totally. Try mentioning it to someone other than a greasy neckbeard. No normie knows what the fuck Tor is. The only reason it even stayed somewhat relevant is because of the Silk Road. That and HackBB were the only two things that had posts under a year old.

>>55703364
1/10, apply yourself.

>>55703364
Shower yourself my main

>>55703391

>thinking tor is "popular" or "big"

Whatever. Enjoy your dead sites and literal honeypots.

>>55703364
>No normie knows what the fuck Tor is
Yeah, and no normie knows what TCP-IP is. Does it mean TCP-IP is not a big thing?
Fuck off, mongoloid.

>>55703458
>siding with normies

>>55703458

>comparing tor to tcp-ip for the sake of your argument

You fuck off.

>>55699714
They make multinational CP raids from time to time, and it's what's going to happen with this thing as well. Just a question of time.

Alright, so looking through the thread it seems this thing not only isn't anonymous, but is less safe than using a regular public tracker.
Why would I ever use this for downloading if I can find everything on 1337x and rarbg?

>>55703523
>multicultural CP
now that's something.

>dude add your computer to a botnet and help host all the inevitable CP and drug sites, what could go wrong?
lmao

>>55703557

lrn2read
lrn2spell

>>55703558

I dont think its a botnet...yet

>>55703549

You wouldn't. That's the point. This thing was failed before it even started.

They're clueless about how to run an altnet/darknet that isn't shit

proof:
>Decentralized domains using Namecoin cryptocurrency.
>Anonymity: You can easily hide your IP address using the Tor network.
>Page response time is not limited by your connection speed.
all claims that seem to implicate they don't understand the technology they're trying to use

>>55703569
it's the definition of botnet

the only difference is that this is that they tell you beforehand

>>55703549
Because public trackers are shit

>>55703613
i think i had a stroke

>the only difference is that they tell you beforehand

>>55699714
>>55703523
Freenet has been around for a lot longer than this and it's still going

But that's because Freenet is designed with politics in mind: Hosting a Freenet node is illegal because the hosting is so far removed from the content.

What you're hosting is small, encrypted blocks consisting of many pieces of content mashed together in a way that means you'd have to know of the content's existence *and* have all of the other blocks necessary to decode it in order to make sense of it. To the user running a Freenet node, there is:

1. No way to know what content is being hosted
2. No way to retrieve any sort of content from only what they're hosting
3. No way to link themselves to the content's originators or consumers

To ban Freenet you would literally have to categorically ban the use of the Freenet network (but then you just rename it and move on), or ban encryption altogether.

>>55703631
This seems like even more shit.

>>55703613

Its the precursor to a botnet imo

The malicious stuff is gonna come the moment this thing gains any significant momentum

>>55703638
In many countries, you're liable for what is being shared using your device. This is typically similar to running an open wifi service: you're liable for anyone who uploads cp over it, for instance. This also applies to things like freenet, though. In germany, a court ruled that to be the case for retroshare.

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>>55703613
>torrents are botnet
lmao, never change gee

>>55703767
So you're liable for people downloading 1024-bit chunks of random data? Okay, now what?

>>55703805
Yes, basically. But to have it enforced, someone would have to run a node that looks for the file and receive the chunk from you (even if you're just ferrying the data from someone else).

That's why we need f2f nets.

>>55703828
>Yes, basically.
The point is that anything served from your machine is entirely legal.

There's no law against 1024-bit chunks of nonsense. Until you ban encryption, it's impossible to legally take down a freenet node.

>>55703795
zeronet is the botnet faggot

the entire concept is "everyone hosts everything"

botnet

>>55703583
they do, but just look at the homepage, they'\re clearly pandering to normies and hoping it catches on.

>>55703855
>There's no law against 1024-bit chunks of nonsense.
Except there is. The court case I mentioned was exactly that. Retroshare files are completely encrypted and there's no way for the intermediary to decrypt the data, and only if they were monitoring the network could they even know the data was being moved at all. Court said it was still the person's fault for having made it possible for the file to be shared in the first place.

>>55703881
that's literally how torrents work

>>55703896
How the fuck do they, with their ID shit and their uncompilable "open-source" crap, let alone their advocating using tor over zeronet?

>>55703881
look up what a botnet is

>>55703896

they are pandering on /g/ even

>>55703915
>uncompilable "open-source" crap
>normies
>compiling
come on mate

>download
>unzip
>doubleclick on zeronet.cmd
>done

>>55703940
>the source can't be compiled
>clearly the source and the executable match, good goy. Just listen and believe! No malware here.

>>55703905
The difference is that you're not hosting the file, you're hosting garbled blocks of random files mixed together in a way that makes it impossible to know of their existence or content without combining it with lots of additional data from other peers.

Furthermore, it's not possible to know what files a peer is requesting or serving even if you're directly peering for them - you'd need total surveillance of the network (sybil attack) to even be able to tell who's communicating with whom.

I haven't looked much a RetroShare but it seems *much* more primitive in its design. The homepage even mentions that your direct peers can see what you're downloading, and the file sharing component seems to work more like bittorrent wherein every participant has a copy of the file.

This is very different both legally and technologically from freenet.

>>55703915
>>55703964
>python
>compiling
get out you fucking retard

>>55703987
Oh, it's also not possible to prove that you even participated in the hosting of a file without both knowing of the file's existence *and* performing a sybil attack.

This is because to a client requesting a certain block of a file, it's impossible for it to know whether you (the client it's connecting to) are the originator of a chunk or simply a router.

So not only is there no way to prove you were hosting a file, there is also no way to know who is, and on top of this it's also impossible to know who published a file to begin with. Finally, there's no single place in which a file is hosted in its entirety (except at the end, when the person downloading it reconstructs it locally), no way to discover what files are and aren't hosted (without an external reference) and no way to discover what peers exist in the system apart from those you directly connect to.

I'm not saying it's impossible to ban or take down, but they're going to have to try a *lot* harder than for RetroShare/torrent+i2p/whatever.

>>55703964
>>the source can't be compiled
????

>>55704004
>what is pypy
inbred

>>55704030
>the originator of a chunk or simply a router.
Are you just pretending to be retarded or did you fail to read the part where it makes no difference as both are just as guilty not once, not twice, but three times?

>>55704079
I did read this, my point is that it's still too difficult to prove you were involved even as a router in the distribution of any illegal content.

It's easy to legally pursue something like Napster or BitTorrent (or even Tor) since the swarm is public and you can gain information about individuals, then compile a list of them and sue.

But without somebody tangible to sue and proof to back it up, you can't just start randomly taking down individuals. In most countries you're innocent until proved guilty.

>>55704452
Clinically retarded, huh. Amazing. I didn't think your ilk could post on 4chan.

>>55704452
>>55704079
Also, if what you're saying is true, then it should be illegal to run a tor node. What does the tor project have to say about this?

>>55704491
>has no more argument
>w-well, you're.. retarded!!!
never change, 4chan

>>55704519
That is correct, see for example:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140701/18013327753/tor-nodes-declared-illegal-austria.shtml
Of course, it depends on countries.

>>55704713
That article is about exit nodes, which concerns a different thing entirely.

If your claim is true, then it would be illegal to run tor hidden nodes as well (not just exit nodes). Is it?

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>>55696602
how can the first post always be the best post

>>55704873
There's no such thing as a "hidden node" in tor networks. Do you mean a relay, a bridge, or a hidden service?

>>55705189
A relay

You just said that relaying encrypted content is illegal and that you're accountable for it even in cases where it can't be proved you were involved in the distribution of the file

On this grounds, a tor relay is illegal as fuck. Why haven't there been mass arrestings yet?

Has anyone setup zeromail? Message me @ sockspls

Can I use it as just a leech? I only have 1mbps up and a data cap.

>>55705374
Tor node operators fall under the DMCA safe harbor (or local equivalent).

>>55705912
No

>>55705928
Only in the US. In australia, austria, germany, and the UK, that's not the case.

>>55703275
>hey, anon could be the next big thing
You're dead. This is hell.

>hey, BitTorrent could be the next big thing
:^)