/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Shit OP again

>>55682622
Welcome to 4chan. Enjoy your stay during the summer.

complete noob to IEMs here. I'm just wondering what size of IEM tips to use?
I've tried small and can't hear much bass, and large can't hear anything around me.

Any idea if there are any good? Why are they so cheap?

Am I better off getting Pistons 3?

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>>55682664
>make a shit OP
>continue to trash the thread with inane memes

>>55682803
Anything that fits and this is completely individual. Most decent IEMs come with multiple tips and there are plenty of aftermarket tips available too.

>>55682835
Link: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01I28RL9Y/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_n_awdl_38mKxb1W98V30

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>>55682837

Is the Fiio E10K sufficient to power the JVC HA-RX 700 to their full potential? Budget is up to 80$ and I live in Macedonia.

>Budget
$100
>Location
EU
>Source
PC, Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
full-size
>Open or closed
open or semi-open
>Comfort level
I have a pretty big head and glasses so it needs to be compatible with that
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral preferred (a bit bassy is fine)
>Past headphones
Superlux HD330 - I liked the tonal balance and the big soundstage, disliked that they were pretty uncomfortable sometimes

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Budget
£15 to £50
>Location
UK
>Source
Computer, realtek audio
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I have big ears and my current headphones are really painful after long periods
>Past headphones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ozone-Gaming-Spark-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003F0RYZ6/
Good quality but they were kind of small and hurt my head + ears, I just want my new headphones to have the same or higher quality sound, and preferably have a physical volume slider/adjuster but thats not crucial

>>55683502
yeah shouldnt be an issue.

Will the meze 99 classics need a dac/amp? Is the E10k good enough for it?

>>55686645
>Will the meze 99 classics need a dac/amp?
amp, no. DAC, probably not.
>Is the E10k good enough for it?
yes.

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So yeah I bought one of these in a sale mainly for gaming.
They'll arrive next week and now I am wondering if an AMP is really required. I've heard the K612 Pro (120 Ohms) are working on ordinary onboard soundcards, however pretty low volume and no word about audio quality.

The K702 here have 62 Ohms and I got a Realtek ALC1150 onboard which is supposed to be one of the best onboard-soundcards on gaming mobos.

Will this work decently? Beacuse I'm pretty much out of money now.

>>55687440
Yeah your mobo should drive them loud enough. I can listen to them quite loud even on my PC, which has a shitty Realtek ALC 272.

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So I have this headset, Steelseries Siberia V3.
Out of pure curiosity, how would you guys rate it?

I'm using it for gaming, listening to music, watching stuff, etc.
It's easily the comfiest shit ever, but I'm just wondering if you guys hate/love it or something.

How should I know if I need something better than my onboard sound card to drive specific headphones?

I'm just saying because when I raise the volume just high enough, shit gets flattened and there's some slight crackling that gets kind of annoying. The way I have to solve this is to use a lower volume.

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>Budget
$60-120
>Location
US
>Source
desktop, realtek audio, i could go for any wireless setup including bluetooth if it's still decent quality
>Preferred type
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
more comfort than quality, I'm no audiophile I just want to play vidya without my ears bleeding
>Preferred tonal balance
w/e
>Past headphones
JVC Full-Size - Model HA-RX700 Wired
good quality for the price and comfortable as hell, but i'm on my second set now and it broke after about a month

>>55687839
>How should I know if I need something better than my onboard sound card to drive specific headphones?
>when I raise the volume just high enough, shit gets flattened and there's some slight crackling that gets kind of annoying
Waveform clipping, a key sign that an amplifier would prove useful.

>>55687440
>no word about audio quality
In general, the higher the impedance, the less you ought to worry about things other than loudness.

>>55687993
XPT100

Why is wireless frowned upon?

>>55688108
Many thanks

>>55688121
>XPT100
do those fit entirely around your ears or on top of them? i get terrible headaches if they push onto my ears all the time.

>>55688197
It's not.

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>>55688197
There are several really great BT headphones:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/746519/huge-comparison-of-almost-all-the-best-bluetooth-headphones-post-your-own-comparisons-here#

You can get great ones for ~120€ (Supertooth Freedom - even with wired/passive mode).

>>55688440
>inb4 complaints about head-fi
>inb4 complaints about subjective opinions

>>55688586
can you give me some examples of objective opinions and explain how they differ from subjective opinions?

>>55688235
XPT100 are over ears not on ears.

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>>55688638
>objective opinions
Don't you mean "objective measurements?"

>>55688702
perfect, just ordered a pair, thanks.

>>55688748
i meant what i said

>>55688765
So you aren't new you are sincerely asking for something impossible like a retard? Glad that was cleared up.

>>55688775
>Glad that was cleared up.
disappointed you missed the point

>>55688842
>the point
What is your point? That you are asking for something as valid as unicorns? That you are confused what subjectivism versus objectivism means in personal audio?

>>55688851
you have to figure it out yourself. i can't help you.

>>55688897
>I'll claim that you missed the point so I can at least make myself feel like less of an idiot
You cannot explain this alleged "missed point" because, just like objective opinions and unicorns, it doesn't exist.

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Anyone else get the K7XX while they were on sale? i am very excited to get them in the mail seeing as they are my first "audiophile" headphones other than the dusty old m50's i got half a decade ago.

Any experiences with the leakage on the MSR7s?

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Hey.

>Budget
550€ maximum ( ~$600 )
>Location
France so europe.
>Source
Mostly PC. But occasionaly on a Hi-Fi setup.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized yeah ?
>Open or closed
I don't care i guess. Had both and the difference didn't really strike me.
>Comfort level
High ? Going to be wearing it at least a couple hours a day.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral i'd say. I don't like bassy headphones that's for sure.
>Past headphones
An old AKG my father used, Audio-technica A-55, Koss Porta Pro (current and only headphone), some cheap Sennheiser, and an Beyerdynamix MMX 300.

aight I think that's it.

>>55688954
you got half of the point now

>>55688988
HD 600

>>55689024
Alright thanks, i'll look that up.

$250
Canada
PC and Nexus 5
Full sized preferred
Closed
Comfort doesn't really matter
Neutral or Bright
Several headsets all way too bassy

>>55689167
MSR7?

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Is there anything better than the 770 for less than $150? I need closed back and prioritize comfort over sound; I'm going to be wearing these for ~8 hours at a time.

Are hyperx cloud 1/2 any good? they're the cheapest shit in my country that covers the whole ear and are closed

>>55690017
Headsets are shit but the Hyper X Cloud (not 2) is less shit.

Takstar HD3000 vs HI2050, the second one is much better right? (I'm assuming because of the price).

I'm looking at the v-moda cross fade m-100.
Is there any massive flaw with them?

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>>55682597
>Budget
~£150
>Location
U.K
>Source
Mother board
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

Thank you

>>55689522
>closed back
>Comfort
Yeah, DT770 is probably your best bet.
>>55691123
Nope, they are pretty Mid-bass heavy, but you can fix that with an EQ and that's assuming you don't want bassy in the first place.
Otherwise it's a a great option, built like a tank (literal military grade), detachable cables, carrying case, you can even custom shields for it if you want a more unique look.

>>55687440
AKG K7XX series headphones work out to be 93 dB/mW which is quite inefficient. They do need a good amplifier to drive them, they might get loud enough (barely) through motherboard audio but do yourself a favour and get proper amplification. Even nwavguy has stated this in his blogs about these headphones being hard to drive...

>Budget
£100
>Location
UK
>Source
DAC/Amp when I eventually choose one.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Open/Semi-open
>Comfort level
Very comfortable.

Some nigger stole my ath m50x. What would be a good replacement/upgrade? prefer closed/semi-closed

>>55693063
Fill out the form.

>>55693139
>Budget
$150-$300
>Location
murrica
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
closed/semi open
>Comfort level
Very comfortable
>Past headphones
at ath m50x

>>55693173
DT880.

>Budget
$40
>Location
poland
>Source
ipod shuffle 2g
>Preferred type of headphone
on ear/over ear
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
i won't be wearing them more than 2 hours a day
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral or bass
>Past headphones
ipod earbuds

I need new headphones for gym, my current old earbuds sound like old cellphone on speaker and i need something that will provide bit more quality in sound. I want something that goes over ear but i don't want to look like an oblivious retard with big ass headphones.

>>55694224
>gym
>not IEMs
ISHYGDDT

>>55694224
here pooland

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-202-Professional-Headphones-Black/dp/B003LPTAYI/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-PortaPro-Headphones-with-Case/dp/B00001P4ZH

>Budget
$300 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
90% of the time will be a PC with a decent sound card
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Size
>Open or closed
Closed could be useful but open is fine as well
>Comfort level
Must be comfortable for many hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Currently using M50x's and like their sound signature, maybe with a little less bass
>Past headphones
AT M50x's have served me rather well, looking for a bit of an upgrade

>Budget
$200 +/- 100
>Location
US
>Source
HTC 10
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or warm
>Past headphones
Monoprice 8323. Enjoyed them, but plastic construction started breaking apart after almost 2 years of use.

I'm mainly looking for durability above all else, but it'd be nice if it's a pair that can take advantage of the HTC 10's built in DAC.

>>55682597
Whats the best amp I can get under 40 bucks?

>>55695689
Cmoy mint tin amp.

>>55695689
massdrop has a deal on the SMSL IDOL and the XDuoo XQ-10 right now. both under 40

>>55695478
MSR7 or hp50

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Based next day delivery.
This better work with my e10k now or imma find you and kick your ass whoever said it would.

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>>55692183
Seems like my mobo even has an AMP onboard, 2.5x and 6.0x amplification, whatever tha means.

"6x mode is ideal for high impedance speakers and headphones" - guess that will do it

MSR7, HD 598 or AD900X for an upgrade from M50x's?

>>55696489
>The best for gaming

Is open headphones an option at all? Then I'd say the Sennheiser HD558

>>55696481
I have the MSR7, not very comfy set.
After an hour or so the outer edge of my earlobes start to hurt a bit because they barely touch a rough part of the driver.

Sounds pretty good though, I only use it for commute.

>>55696634
Try to bend the headband a bit. Mine becomes more bearable after i did that

>>55696371
Heads up the OP amps are propriatary and shit to boot.

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I'm planning to buy HiFiMan RE-400. Are they good? My computer and phone doesnt have 5 mm jack holes, would adapter cause loss in quality?
t. tech illiterate

>>55696844
>Are they good?
Depends on what you consider good. They measure well and I myself enjoy them a lot. Only problem I have had is the shoddy Hifiman build quality.
>My computer and phone doesnt have 5 mm jack holes, would adapter cause loss in quality?
>5mm
What? If you mean 3.5mm, then everything has that.

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>>55696915
I want an Edition S anime girl.

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>>55682597

>>55696969
I was checking that comprehensive iem review and saw that it was far better in sound quality than its rivals of the same price. I am now checking other reviews of it to be sure.
>They measure well and I myself enjoy them a lot.
what music genre do you enjoy?
>5mm
i misunderstood some stuff.

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So I just got these from ebay, and damn are they fucking good. I was blown away by the CAL when I got them a few weeks back, not just because of the sound but because of the value. These are even better. In fact it's fair to say they're just a great overall headphone and beat the CAL in every way unless you really love that bassy, warm fostex sound. The going is twice as much as the CAL at $100 but you can find them for much cheaper on ebay, ~$60. It comes with a really nice hard case and 2 cables with a little net for them inside. This headphone is still warm like the CAL, just much less so, reminds me of the hp50. They're incredibly even from the sub bass through the mids, and it's the mids that shine here, though the bass is quite good as well. the highs are clear but polite. biggest problem is a pronounced dip in the highs, but if you like warm it won't bother you. This is also the fist closed portable that is "audiophile-friendly" without being obscenely priced imo.

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>>55697088
cont:

it does everything a portable should do: It folds nicely into it's case, with enough room for cables, some IEMs, even small DAP too. Comfort is great, the beats-ripoff design is done very well, it doesn't feel cheap at all and there are even metal elements. All the padding is very soft, including the earpads. No hot spots here. Isolation is above-average as well. You may have heard Tyll praising the Zoro II HD many times. this is it's over-ear cousin, just less warm, not as rolled off in the highs.

>>55697013
A Hifiman anime girl is a literal chinese cartoon.

>>55697039
Genre is pretty irrelevant here but I listen to a wide range of things, generally things like pop, rock and classical. This is ultimately >opinions but to me they sometimes sound dull compared to more bass heavy or bright in ears. However, overall, the word I can use to explain them is "clean", everything sounds right with them whereas other in ears I tried would be good at x but bad at y.

>>55697032
a bit offtopic but i have the same DAP
love the quality but the UI sucks - how do you quickly get to an album without scrolling through hundreds of albums or using the folder view?
have around 2500 songs on there (EPs, Singles and Albums)

i now use the folder view with folders from A-Z where i put the albums in but if i quickly wanna browse there it´s a pita

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>>55697113
There is a mod you can do that doesn't seem to be documented well. Under the pads is a thin foam disk, and then some fabric pad stickers over 2 vents (per driver). Remove those and the clarity of the upper mids and highs increases noticeably. It doesn't get brighter, just sounds less closed and congested, it gives more of that detail you expect from an expensive headphone. Getting the pads on and off is a real bitch though, you basically have to get the lip into a tiny groove that you kind of have to hold open with your nail or use it to shove the lip in. They still sound good without the mod, the highs are just more muted.

I think I have found my perfect portable (though they are gaudy). They do so much right that other portables fail at. I was using an ue6000 for portable use, and while it is great the fit can be tricky and this is just better. Even at $100 I think this is as good if not better than the m40x and xpt-100. v6 still beats it but then that's the v6.

>>55697121
Thank you again. Well I should've mentioned that i've been using 5$ chinese headphones for roughly a year [spoiler] since my gaming headset broke. [/spoiler] So I doubt I could see those nuances.
btw which oem headphone are you using?

>>55697218
HD600 and M50. I also have an SE535.

>>55682803
>and large can't hear anything around me.
most IEMs do that. if you can't hear your surroundings but you can hear the music well that means you have a good seal which is what you want. if it's comfortable then you're fine. if you want IEMs that don't isolate that much try shallow-fit and avoid foam. the piston 3 sounds like an open headphone IEM, very little isolation.

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>>55684621
558, bass light though

>>55685880
th-02 with srh-840 pads

>>55687504
shit, but honestly you wouldn't know if you don't have listening experience. the brain naturally gets used to a sound even if the signature is bad, because you have no comparison, so it sounds fine to you.

>>55688440
problem is most of these just have terrible "hip" signatures, overloaded spiky v-shapes and such. there is also no mention of what bluetooth standard they use. I would use tyll's list instead.

>>55688958
you can find the k712 which is better for as much if you look around.

>>55690752
hi2050 is known to be good, but the price has been massively inflated lately.

>>55691123
massive bass boost into shelved everything else. if that's what you want OK but there are better bassy headphones IMO.

>>55695049
less bass? hd600. similar bass? X2.

>>55696251
there are literally a handful of headphones the e10 can't handle and no one on /hpg/ has them and you probably never will.

>soundcard or amp?
I have some HD 598's and I'm running them off my mobo that has a Realtek ALC892. Lately I've noticed that when I turn up my music loud it has distortion in the lows but I'm not sure if this is just my music (hip hop, usually just streamed off Google Play but it's noticeable off DL'd MP3s too) or my setup, any advice?

>>55696765
I tried stuffing the inner rims of the cups with cotton, worked reasonably well.

Ordered HM5 sheep skin leather pads for the hell of it, I am tone deaf so if I don't notice much change in the signature I'm rolling with them.

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>>55697506
could be the headphones themselves or the amp in your mobo. if it's the headphones, there's little you can do about it. if it's your mobo, your could get an external amp.
if you share the sound files, i can give them a listen to make sure the distortion is not in the recordings.

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>>55697787
I'm just going to assume it's the files themselves, after listening to this http://sinan.ussakli.net/basstest/5-100.mp3 the only "wrong" thing I hear is the drivers "fluttering" or whatever it's called.
Would this be distortion visualized?

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>Budget
80-120$
>Location
EU
>Source
PC, Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
full-size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfortable enough to be able to wear them 5-6 hours without pain for music and vidya
>Preferred tonal balance
i just want headphones that don't sound like 5$ plastic MS headphones, quality sound would be fine but i'm not an audio editor or DJ, i listen to music alot and occasionally play a videogame
>Past headphones
pic related, Sennheiser HD201
They had okay enough sound and were decent for 30$ but the ear cups didn't envelop my ears comfortably and the 3m cable was a bit of a hassle if i wanted to listen on the go

I'd like to listen to music on the bus or something like that, but I don't know if my budget is good enough for getting decent cans that are good for this

>>55698087
>Would this be distortion visualized?
yeah, looks like clipping to me

>Budget
140-240 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Phone, Turntable (mainly phone tho)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I mean just decently comfy really, as long as there is no sharp metal shit poking me all goods
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral if possible, dosen't really bother me either way

>>55697443
>there are literally a handful of headphones the e10 can't handle and no one on /hpg/ has them and you probably never will.

Yeah this setup works and sounds great dunno what I was worried about

Why is there no measurements of amplifiers or dacs anywhere?

>>55698822
there are plenty

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>>55698822
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AllAmpGraphs.pdf
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?forums/amplifier-measurements.13/
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?forums/source-measurements.14/

Just to start you off. Basically, O2/Magni 2 is endgame.

>>55698389
try MSR7

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>>55696842
Just received them, tested mobo soundcard, Op-AMP is only on rear. Sounds wonderful and gets really loud even on 2.5x amp setting.

>>55698929
welcome to the master race

>>55682869
Why do animefags always default to this as a comeback?
It's just pathetic

>>55698915
>Violectric V281
>€1900
>2 dB bass roll-off
why is this allowed?

>>55699042
After a while I realized that ''audiophiles'' aka the people who spend thousands on audio gear, they don't care about real fidelity, most of them are subjectivists. Ancient tube technology, garbage DACs, amps with roll-offs and distortion, placing expensive speakers in untreated rooms, etc

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>>55682597
are these a meme?

>>55699349
>10x TIMES BETTAH
>power bass
>not a meme

>>55699349
>the headphones emit an exceptionally vibrant, natural, and ultra-dynamic sound with crystal clear vocals up to 45,000Hz.

>>55699349
It's shit until it's measured

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>>55682597
What's a good amp/receiver for a pair of mb42x and DT 770s?

>Budget
Around 80€, can ballpark a bit
>Location
Spain
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I'd be willing to trade a bit of quality for comfort because I'll be wearing them for several hours in a row
>Preferred tonal balance
-
>Past headphones
-

Thanks in advance

>>55699488
AKG K92

>>55698116
pls respond ?

>>55699482
Lepai LP 2020A

>>55699777
Not gonna delete my trips but I realised you want to power the DT770s as well.
Depends on how much you want to spend but check out the Yamaha A S301

>>55698116
mdr 7506's

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Hey niggers, I just bought pic related last week, lurking them so far but they feel bass weak and it seems like max volume isn't very loud. Does this sound normal or did I get a faulty unit?

>>55700103
>sennheiser
you got what you payed for
shit

>>55697443
>th-02 with srh-840 pads

Some anons also reccomended these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superlux-HD668B-Headphones/dp/B003JOETX8/

But with replacement pads. Which one would be better?

>>55700118
Should I kms now?

>>55699042
Coupling caps filter out DC offset and other infrasonic signals, and the amplifier was tested with a lower impedance load than the design is suited for.

>>55698822
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device
http://www.stereophile.com/category/digital-processor-reviews

>>55682597
>Budget
80$
>Location
Russia
>Source
Motherboard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Enough for wearing for 2-3 hours straight
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX 215 and some other shitty in-ear ones.
I usually listen to post-rock, electronic (IDM, ambient). Audio-Technica's TAD400 and AVA400 seems like a good choice, does anyone know the difference between them?

>>55700822
AKG K240

I'm browsing through the Super Best Audio Friends forum and there seems to be heavy shilling for EC and Schiit products. What do you guys think?

Going on a trip fairly soon and need a pair of in-ears that will fit nicely in my pocket.

Budget is $50, had good results with MEEtronics in the past but the over ear wire frequently wears down. Where should I start looking?

>>55700103
Open headphones generally have weaker bass.

Whatever you're powering them with lacks power.

I suggest you return them and get an easy to drive closed back headphone.

>>55701182
Sadly /g/ is the only good place to discuss headphones and even then it's still a shithole.

SBAF can go die in a fire with their shilling.

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If you don't have Razer Megalodon, I don't know how uncomfortable your life is, but you're doing something wrong.

>>55702145
>>>/hsg/ - Headset General

>>55702183
oh I guess there is a difference
have fun with ear wax guys

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FLAC Internet radio:

mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Lossless anime tunes directly into your earholes, only top tier headphones like the SR-007 allowed

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>>55702337
>SR-007
>top tier

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>>55682597
Where my 6 double 0 nigga's at

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>>55702337
>top tier
>SR-007

???

>>55702796
Is this the legendary fast bass of electrostatic headphones?

>>55692574
dt770 is £112 on amazon right now. That's the best comfy closed headphone around that price by far.

>>55702777
>he fell for the meme

>>55702824
oh god it's the 702 faggot again. Jesus christ i'm not doing this with you every weekend.

>>55702862
Having buyer's remorse already? Enjoying your """"soundstage""""?

>>55702880
I enjoy a much better tonal balance, actual bass and not needing to ever use an eq ;)

You enjoying the bass boost switch on your e10k?, fucking kek

>>55702824
I fell for the meme as well.

I haven't heard any headphone better than the HD600 besides the ER-4 eardildo.

>>55702928
>sennfags
lol
>>>/reddit/

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>>55703085
>702 fags
lol
>>>/oh, oh wait. you're already in the only place that fucking cares about that headphone

>>55703085
Nice argument poorfag

Can anyone say if the HD558 or 598 is more open?
I'm getting wildly conflicting reports even with the 558 mod, and I'm happy to pay the premium for the 598, but I want to be certain it's the right cans.
I'm looking for maximum sound stage and openness. Lots of tv, movies and gaymen.

>>55703267
They are the same fucking thing, dude

>>55703139
>>55703110
>its better because it costs more

>>55703267
>sennheiser
both are shit

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>>55703334
It's better because I've owned both you fucking bitter moron. The only plus to the 702 is soundstage, and yes we all love that when we first hear it but it doesn't mean shit compared to the overall tonal balance of a headphone. The 600's are detailed,full sounding and the vocals are fucking perfect. There's a reason it's sold so well for so long.

You even admitted last time that you've never tried the 600 before. Jesus fucking christ.

>>55703315
Thanks guy. I was hoping for a more detailed breakdown of any differences in the construction of the back, but you make that sound a little redundant.

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>>55703381
>sennheiser
>ever

>>55703348
Are you needing to justify buying some too expensive closed back cans?

>>55703422
No sennheiser is just bad.

>>55703415
lol get reked , it's bed time for you now

>>55703468
its time for you to go back to r eddit sennfag
>>>/reddit/

>>55703433
Ok then. Well suggestions are welcome.
If you're being spiteful for the attention you're quite welcome to mine. I'm here to talk cans, not spew bile.
What's super open, has that there sound stage thing and sounds great for say $150

>>55702035
>/g/ is the only good place to discuss headphones
Just what could you discuss about headphones?

>>55701182
>What do you guys think?
Some senior members are personal friends of Schiit and EC. Marvey works at EC and tries his best not to talk about amplifiers now. An accusation of bias is easy to make, could be true.
I don't see an issue in talking about products you like. It's easier to just ignore it, since the products they make don't matter.

>>55703497
K612

>>55703508
>K612
Very well. I shall read up on it quickly.

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>sennheiser

>>55703495
Never been, bye

German Maestro GMP400.
More detailed mids and highs than Senn HD580/600/650, very similar soundstage, cheaper and made in Germany.

>>55703381
>>55703110
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I think that it's important to explain some things. HD600 may be better than K702 out of the box, but this is mostly a subjective matter and HD600 isn't "perfect" after all. Through a careful equalization the K702 can be turned into neutral pretty easily, even though it's cheaper than the HD600. HD600 has its own problems as well: quite steep bass roll-off (even more than the K702 according to most sources), bit too much low mids and a hump around 3-4 kHz which some people may find annoying. The fact that you prefered your HD600 over the K702 doesn't automatically make K702 shit and HD600 Goddess-like.

>>55703552
I bought my hd600's because one side of my 702's died for no fucking reason. I opened them up and had to solder a wire back myself. I sold those pieces of shit on ebay asap and they're probably stronger now then when I got them.

>made in china for anything over £10

Not even once.

>>55702337
>mpv
What sound system you're using?

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>>55703625
>Sennheiser
wew lad

>>55703502
>Just what could you discuss about headphones?
measurements (including FR, THD, impedance, compensation curves, etc.), comfort, cables, build quality, amps, DACs, binaural recordings, EQing

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>>55703625
>sennheiser

>>55703594
Measurements look like shit.
>>55703624
>hump around 3-4kHz
Blame your ears, faggot.

>>55703624
I'm arguing with a retard who starts shit ever weekend when I post my headphones. There's no point in even having a discussion with him.

702's are detailed and flat, the 600's are detailed and sound full. They're MUCH better for listening to music. The only advantage to the 702's would be positional awareness on fps games imo.

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>>55703625
>being a sennfag
>2016
HAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS FAGGOT

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>>55703673
>sound full
yea full of veil and mud

If HD600 is such shit, name 5 better headphones that are easily acquired. Budget doesn't matter as long as it isn't exclusive like Orpheus.

>>55703673
K702 is a more analytical objective headphone. HD600 is more colored.

>>55703667
> faggot
I'm not lying and my ears are completely fine.


>>55703673
Part of the reasons why K702 may sound worse for listening to music is due to its treble resonance. I fixed this problem with equalization. Since I also raised the sub-bass, my K702 now sounds much "fuller" lik you say.

>>55703720
K702, K612, HE400i, DT880 600ohm, K7XX

>>55703720
Just buy speakers

>>55703722
I agree the 702 is more analytical, but it sounds shit for actually enjoying most music whereas the 600 sounds brilliant with everything you throw at it. The 702 is too flat, period.

>>55703667
Uneveness in upper high range. Fact is, they hardly translate negatively to the sound. Low end and mids are very similar to HD600.

>>55703722
Analytical is a meme buzzword, fact is, HD600 is more neutral. Lets leave it at that. If I were to need a headphone for critical listening and I had the choice between HD600 and K702, I'd pick the HD600 every time.
>>55703736
>ears are completely fine
Go listen to some relatively neutral speakers like nearfield monitors in a decent room. Come back and tell me how they're emphasized at 3-4kHz.
>>55703747
None of these are even neutral.

>>55703736
I did all those things with my 702's before one side of them broke. They still didn't sound anything like the 600's. You can't copy sound properly using an eq and a shit amp despite what the penny pinchers on /hpg/ will tell you.

I loved my 702's but they broke. So I tried 600's from amazon (so i could send them back hassle free) and I ended up keeping them even though they cost a lot more. They're better. My brother still had his 702's and we compared them and the 702's sounded shit besides being slightly more analytical.

Guess what headphones he has now?. Yeah.

>>55703789
Hey man I just wanted to stop by and say that trolling is against the rules here on /g/
thanks

>>55703789
>>>55703747
He's a fucking idiot m8

>>55703747
>K702
inconsistent seal (can range from no bass to muddy bass)
2kHz bump
treble peak
4kHz dip

>K612
better than K702 but still has the retarded 2khz bump and peaky treble

>HE400i
lacks upper midrange response
a bit muffled sounding
bass response is warm despite being really flat
treble appears a bit bright around 10kHz

>DT880 600ohm
lol sibilant treble and fatuiguing
recessed upper midrange
muffled
better bass extension than HD600 is the only pro of this headphone

K7XX
literal shit, worse than K702
more consistent seal
muddy as fuck

>>55703833
> I did all this before
How? Did you use a parametric equalizer? I used Equalizer APO and the results were amazing.

> shit amp
Do you really believe that amps improve the sound of a headphone? Amps just increase volume.

Like I said before, even though HD600 may be better, aka more neutral, thna K702 out of the box, it still needs some tweakings as well.

>>55703906
>Like I said before, even though HD600 may be better, aka more neutral, thna K702 out of the box, it still needs some tweakings as well.
Only the bass needs tweaking, the mids and highs are excellent.

>>55703890
what does warm bass sound like?

>>55703906
APO equalzer yes. It improved them but they still didn't sound the same as the hd600, otherwise people would just buy the fucking 702 and eq those instead.

The hd600's are the most natural sounding headphone i've ever tried, that's the best and easiest way to explain it.

>>55703948
Like thick lower midrange. It sounds quite loud around 400Hz.

>>55703989
>It sounds quite loud around 400Hz.
is warm bass not bass?

>>55704017
Not sure if trolling, but thick sounding lower midrange and mid bass, think 200Hz to 500Hz. It gives the headphone a sort of mid-bass oriented sound. Yes, despite the super flat bass response, the rest of the spectrum isn't flat so they don't sound flat. Similar to LCD-2, if anyone has heard one they sound a bit mid-bassy.

>>55704055
>thick sounding lower midrange and mid bass, think 200Hz to 500Hz
is the mid bass between 200 and 500 Hz?

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>>55704086
I'd say 100 to 300 Hz

>>55704125
that chart says the bass ends at 250 Hz. wouldn't mid bass be somewhere between sub bass and upper bass?

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>tfw used m50's for years
>can't stand phones without bass boost now

>>55704149
There's no strict definition of the range of frequencies

>>55704149
midbass is somewhere between bass and mids, 250Hz/300Hz being the middle ground.

>>55704170
What do you listen to these days? V-Moda?

>>55704221
does that make it subjective?

>>55704225
does upper bass not exist?

>>55703654
My problem is that there is a dearth of people who are even at the level of understanding what is written on the wiki.
I also think some of those details are better discussed on someplace other than an audiophile forum.

I want to buy a new motherboard for a build and i want it to have the better audio posible within my budget, im seeing 2 with the same DAC, audio codec and amp, the difference is the audio port is gold plated on one and the other is plastic, is golden much better?

>Budget
200€, flexible
>Location
Europe
>Source
Asus Xonar Essence ST
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I could wear my ATH-T500 for hours straight not even knowing about them, so something comparable to that
>Past headphones
Audio-Technica ATH-T500, they're starting to fall apart so I'm looking for an upgrade

>>55704324
>i want it to have the better audio posible within my budget

hi china

>>55704324
Mobo audio is iffy, any realtek chip is good as a DAC but powering headphones is a different story.

>>55704418

al right also the plastic one has more capacitors, im really ignorant, it will reduce distortion or some shit?

>>55704236
i have new phones and a dac/amp in the mail, but ive been trying out my friend's 598's and k 240's.

other than that i still use the m50's occasionally, but the extreme physical discomfort and sibilant highs are hard to stomach for more than 10-15 minutes

>>55704468
I can't say, don't make audio the most important factor in choosing a mobo.

>>55704542

Ok, so any realteck, an amp if necesary and good heaphones should be almost the same?

>>55704324
>audio port
The difference in contacts is that the gold plated one is corrosion resistant. Without knowing the models in question, I don't think the other contacts are actually plastic. These have to conduct electricity.
>with the same DAC, audio codec and amp
How do I pound this idea into people's heads?
Audio circuits don't work like computer upgrades. Unlike swapping out a Celeron for a 6700k and [top discrete GPU model], you can't just drop in new op-amps and converter chips and expect better audio performance. Every part of the circuit must be worked over carefully, both in the circuit model and the physical layout, every bit of wire or component a potential liability.
>more capacitors
I dunno. It can be a power filter or for transient power storage.

>>55704687

Thanks the mobos are g1 sniper g6 and h97 gaming 3, they have the same chips but he h97 boast more quality

>>55704301
>My problem is that there is a dearth of people who are even at the level of understanding what is written on the wiki.
ignore them or educate them. you can have discussions with the handful of people in /hpg/ who know their shit. like the other guy said, this place is terrible, but it's as good as it gets.

>>55704679
Yep. Also, buy a decent rated mobo.
>>55704722
I'd go for the H97 since it's a newer chipset.

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>>55704771

Thanks

>>55702880
>Enjoying your """"soundstage""""?

Sick burn. There is a reason Sennheiser made the HD800 sound very airy and open.

>>55706442
Was there also a reason they made it quite inaccurate with recessed upper midrange, muddy bass and peaky treble?

>>55706536

Yes

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>>55682597
AYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>Budget
€40 - €60
>Location
Europe
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Sound quality > comfortability
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm, full

Thanks

sorry if this isn't the right place to ask but can anyone recommend a good vinyl player for around 100 AUD? all the players at the price range i'm looking at seem to have a bad rep for ruining records.

How does a newbie get in to all this? I've read the wiki a few times, i think i get the jist of it. But there are so many options in sound quality.

Can an Antlion Modmic V4 change the sound of an open headphone?

>>55706729
all turntable needles tear on the surface of the records and degrade the quality over time

>>55706784
what do you want to know?

>>55706784
>How does a newbie get in to all this?
Check to see if any nearby stores will let you try different headphones. Alternatively start from filling out the form and we can suggest a starting headphone.

I got an email back from Gemini about repairing my HSR-1000s. They said that, because they discontinued the HSR-1000, they no longer have parts for it and are sending me a DJX-07 instead.

How are DJX-07s compared to HSRs?

>>55706807
>>55706844
i don't know what ranges i would want.
I dont have a specific type of music i listen to. I use voip alot during the day.
I dont know if i would want treble or bass or a mix or etc

>>55706866
It seems like you have no actual interest in headphones.

>>55706866
so you're just looking for purchase advice? fill out the template in the OP like the other anon said.

>>55706807
i know, but i've read that some of the cheaper turntables cause the records to wear out more quickly.

>>55706866
Just to let you know the differences in sound are relatively small even with expensive headphones and amps etc.

The differences only become clear when you care to understand them, and then you spend money, then a lot f money.

Honestly m8 don't even bother. Dtay blue pilled and enjoy cheap iem's etc like we all have at some point. Leave the thread for your own good. I'm not even joiking.

Is there a dac with a headphone slot?

>Budget
$300 AUD
>Location
Aus
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Looking for an open pair
>Comfort level
Going to be worn for many hours
>Past headphones
Looking for something to use instead of an ATX M50x. Neutral or similar signature would be ideal with a little less bass emphasis.

>>55708762
HD600? If not how about the K702 (though your PC might be a bit wimpy to drive it)?

>>55708820
I have a decent soundcard, but what kind of setup would i be looking at for the 702?

>>55708943
Hard to say as there is variance between mobo to mobo. Won't know if you'll need an amp. I expect you've already tried out the audio jack and haven't noticed any his or interference that would indicate the need of a DAC as well.

>>55700152
668b is great... after some eq and new pads... and a bit of headband bending. It's a great into into audiophile open headphones. the fit is not amazingly perfect like a 598 though, it's not bad, it's not uncomfortable, but you're kind of always aware it's on your head even after the mods. as for pads try the hifiman velours, beyers (too expensive) or generic chinese velours.

>>55698929
the 702 is not even that hungry, you can get it loud off a phone. the k612 is AKG's hungriest headphone iirc.

>>55700103
no, that's just the 598. it's bass light, even compared to most other open headphones. boost with eq, though that won't change the light impact. it's not ad700 nobass but it's not prominent either.

>>55702777
just got some 580s in the mail. have yet to test then because I was trying out the hammo s first.

Semi-related question:
My Schiit Magni just crapped out on me so I'm looking to revamp my desktop audio setup. I've always used my monitor's built-in speakers when watching motives etc and used my headset when I'm actually at my desk playing/listening to music.

I'm looking to get some good bookshelf speakers but my problem is driving them while also driving my headphones. I don't want to have separate headphone and speaker amplifiers cluttering up my desk. Is there any way to do this without just getting a legit fatass integrated amplifier? I'd rather not clutter up my desk or have to buy shelving specifically for one of those monstrosities.

I suppose I could do Schiit Modi + Magni + Lepy? Or since my Modi still works I can suck it up and use that with an integrated receiver and have the option of adding a sub later.

I cant seem to find a reputable place to buy AKG shit like the K702 in Aus, what do?

>Budget
$40, flexible.
>Location
AMERICA!
>Source
Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM.
>Open or closed
No thank you.
>Comfort level
Max comfy, preferably low profile. Need to be able to run with them in though.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral but it doesn't matter too much.

Why mods don't ban these threads is beyond me. It's literally one anime posting fag with inflated ego.

>>55710110
What purpose is there in your post? Are you merely trolling the OP and everyone who posts in this thread? Are you trying to give a veiled free bump?

>>55706729
Honestly if you're going to get into vinyl that's not going to cut it, once your factor in recievers, preamps, speakers etc... it becomes very costly, store DJ has a AT LP-120 for $450 AUD, and you can have it delivered, honestly that's the cheapest turntable that won't sound like ass and fuck up your records

>>55709608
Minidisc

>>55698321
Thanks.

>>55682597
Hey I need advice on choice.

I own a pair of Sony MDR-10BT and ready to get a pair of headphones. My original plan was to get a Audio Technica ATH-m50X amd a modmic 4.0 for in total of $250 but I saw these beauties

https://hereplus.me/#

I know there $300 but they would more practical in real life use to cancel any distractions while I'm school or LA where the noise is really fucking loud. Not to mention that they also steam music too. im fine with my Sony headphones for now

listen up cunts
i see you're still arguing over the same headphone models 2 years later

there was a guy with a nice denon amp and expensive ($500) bookshelf speakers, i think they started with a Z?
has he posted recently?

>>55711280
>listen up cunts
>cunts
No.

>>55711331
looks like someone hasn't read the thread full of autists bickering like children over whether or not sennheiser is shit

>>55711331
sorry, did I hurt your feelings over the internet?

>>55711366
Maybe it's just me but don't you think it is counter-productive to come to this thread asking for help and demanding help from people he insults.

>>55711375
No.

>>55704324
All motherboards have crap sound, no exception.

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>>55711653
For what purpose

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>>55706536
>quite inaccurate with recessed upper midrange, muddy bass and peaky treble

Sounds like the HD600 there.

>>55711849
>Sounds like the HD600 there.
I smell buyers remorse.

>hey guys look at all this money I spent on my equipment
>i-it must be g-good right?

Also those M Audio monitors are fucking dogshit. Please kill yourself.

I'm listening to some tracks and, looking at the spectrum, I see some activity at 21khz. Also, I realised the 's' is more at 10-11k whereas 'sh' and 'ch' is around 6k and 's' has always bothered me more.
Now I know not to get things with 10k peaks and where to EQ down.

HD600's on sale for $325AUD, do i do it?

>>55712241
It's been that price at A2A and Store DJ for quite a while.
One of the main arguments people use against the HD600 is that they are more expensive than the K702 but here, they are about the same price. The main difference is that the K702 gets a 50AUD markup and the HD600 is 125AUD cheaper, according to US amazon prices. So as far as price is concerned, sure, as long as you know what you're getting into.

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>get brand new headphones
>they work great
>play around with default sound format
>they stop working
>headphones stop showing on playback tab
>google ways to fix it
>tons of people with the problem, zero solutions

pic related. me.

>>55712617
Let me guess. Headset with USB connection?

>>55712638
nope. get that shit away from me. it's analog.

>>55704535
try the CAL

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>>55711245

>>55709608
Addicted to audio comes to mind as well they do free express shipping got my MSR7 pretty fast from them.

Not sure which of the two has better after sale support, minidisc might be better in that regard but addicted to headphones seems to have a much wider selection of goods.

>>55712733
The only worthwhile AKG A2A has is a heavily overpriced Q701 at $550.

>>55712617
no ideas?

>>55712767
$550 for Q701, christ what are they smoking.

>>55712617
I even reinstalled all my audio drivers lads

>>55712799
I don't understand your problem. if your headphones work out of one analog out and not another the problem is your playback device. are you on a PC? have you tested on another player? sometimes you have to assign a port as headphone out in the drivers to activate it or change from line out. try the front port.

>>55713217
I'm on a laptop.
my speakers work, my headphones work on my cellphone, when I plug them in the laptop the speakers are turned off but no sound comes. I got only one port for headphones... My only guess is that the headphone jack broke, but I have absolutely no idea how that would be possible since they were working minutes ago.

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guys I need some srs help
everyone says the noctua sedan memephones are the comfiest headphones to ever exist, but I find the headband putting a lot of pressure on my head and the velour feels stiff. how do I fix this? I don't want some non-poo coloured aftermarket ear pads. Do I have to "break in" the headband? etc.

How the fuck do I get rid of the constant creaking in my MSR7's? I love everything else about them but this is shit.

>>55713353
check drivers, see if it's assigned as headphone, see if it actually disables headphones and enables speakers in realtime when you switch. make sure there is no headphone volume that is all the way down or muted. go into control panel and make sure the headphone out is not disabled as an output device.

but yeah your jack is probably fucked. buy a cheap usb dac/amp or go bluetooth.

>>55713449
the headphones don't even show up as a device. only the speakers. they don't show up at the playback device list, even with the option "show disabled/unplugged devices"

how the fuck did the jack break? jesus christ

>>55713356
sure they're not fakes? feels fine to me. but if there is a way to reduce/eliminate headband hot-spots it's to bend it to increase weight distribution and/or add padding to the area where the spot is. also try wearing them looser. you can't really bend the 598, it's all plastic and doesn't have an internal metal piece as far as I know.

>>55713439
creaking from the moving bits? I guess wiggle them and loosen/tighten screws if you can. if there is an exposed moving element you might even be able to apply oil or something. I usually sit still enough that creaking and such don't bother me.

>>55713491
if it doesn't appear as a separate device your only hope is drivers. it might have some stupid internal switching that failed because they speakers and headphone out run on the same amp? jacks usually fail from strain, though it more often happen with the male end since it moves much more.

>>55713512
even though I already uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers?

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are the plugs of that crap supposed to come out easily as fuck?

I need a quality cable for both my MSR7s and M100s, one that's short enough to carry around with me and maybe has a mic/volume control, but not necessary. [spoiler]I broke 3 of the total 5 that came with them[/spoiler]

>>55713550
the settings might not have been deleted. but honestly your jack is probably just fucked.

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>>55713798
>but honestly your jack is probably just fucked.
fucking how

and how do I test those hypothesis?
as I said, the headphones aren't even listed on playback devices

I'm thinking about buying a Antlion Modmic 4.0 unidirectional and attach it to my K702. Some questions:
1) does the stick on the headphone somehow affect the sound of the headphone? I'm worried mostly because the K7702 is open
2) can the mic be linked to the Fiio E10K?

I'm looking for new IEMs
Budget - 50~75 dollars
Source - Phone, Nexus 5
Preferred type - IEMs, definitely
Comfort level - Don't have to be the most comfortable and give up on a lot of sound quality, but comfort is pretty important. A balance would be nice if needed.
Preferred tonal balance - Don't mind either, I like many different types of music. But honestly I also use it for a lot of Youtube, so if things could be clear in terms of vocals that'd be nice. Also I'm a bit tired of low-volume earphones, that's a criteria I mind.
Past headphones - I had the Sennheiser CX 3.00 but after just a few months they already had an issue where some sound ranges just couldn't be heard, vocals were so quiet and all sound was distorted.
I want something a bit durable if possible, but I take good care of them so no need to emphasize that too much.
In terms of sound quality I was pretty happy with those, as well as the Sennheiser CX300 II, they just broke over time so I'm looking for suggestions.
tl;dr - past headphones were Sennehsier CX 3.00 and CX 300 II, liked em both but broke over time, looking for something new.

>>55714262
RE400

I am looking for good and durable bluetooth headsets with extra bass and mic. I am going to use it for travelling.
Budget : 1k-2k INR
Source - Phone, OnePlus X
Past Headphones : I have been using Audio Technica, Well they aren't dead yet but I would like to have another one with bluetooth

>>55713889
Get a dirt cheap pair of ear buds and see if shit works, if not chances are you 3.5mm jack is borked. If they work then your headphones may be at fault.

Try uninstalling and reinstalling your sound card driver could be a weird driver issue.

Try plugging in an external mic as well and see if that works if you have one handy.

This sounds stupid , but another testing trick if you happen to have a of 3.5mm to 3.5mm male to male cable lying around is to plug in both mic and headphone jacks then go to your playback and recording devices settings and set your primary playback device to line out and set line in to "listen to device".

Then just play music or whatever and see if line in registers a signal.

Do I need an amp for Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohms ?
Music from my laptop and Nexus phone.

Are Grados a meme?

>>55715428
No bass, bright as the sun, shitty build and uncomfortable.

My HD598 lack lows (driven with my shitty laptop soundcard), found a fiio A1 and a K1 for basically the same price, will they help? If so, which one should I get?

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>>55715428
If HD800s are so universally praised, why aren't Grados?

>>55717076
K1 bypasses the DAC, so I'd get that.

>>55682597
Someone make a new thread reeeeee

>>55717285
both are praised on head-fi
neither is praised in /hpg/

>>55717359
this thread hasn't reached the bump limit

Does anybody know anything about the Plantronics Backbeat Sense or Pro? I'm looking for wireless on ears around $150 and those two are getting good reviews and have tons of features, I just don't know if the Pros would be too big to use on the go

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>go on a vacation for a week or so
>come home
>headphones are playing random noise somewhat loudly because I had forgotten to turn off the shitty chinese amp I had
>music sounds way quieter than before

fucking hell I don't wish this to anyone; not even my enemies

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I wanted a pair of below $200 headphones that's decent enough and ordered these because I saw them here a couple times, what does /hpg/ think?

>>55717076
Fiio K1. The A1 has very little gain to it, making it not useful.

>>55718908
The price has gone up between being discontinued and an unexpected uptick in demand.

>>55719265
I noticed, but I kinda fell in love with the way it looks.

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>>55718021
Decided to go with the Sense, they're getting amazing reviews and they're going to be my first wireless pair.

My HiFiMeDIY Sabre usb amp/dac thing is doing alright driving my DT770 250, will it be able to handle a DT880 600 or will I need something beefier?

Are people who don't like flat response curve disgusting plebs who should be rounded up and shot in a public square?

What portable music players do you guys use?
Thinking about picking up the HTC 10, or a cheap phone instead + DAP

>>55719725
I used to own a sabre dac up until last week. Are you using it as an amp as well?. if that's the case it might not be great for driving 600 ohm headphones. It was loud enough for my hd600's but they're fairly easy to drive.

If you really want those headphones get an o2 amp to go with your sabre dac. It's a great combo.

>>55720418
The HD600 is just 300 ohms IIRC, so that figures.

The O2 is $130 + shipping so I'd probably have to hold off on one or the other for a while.

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>>55699004

>>55720350
Forgot to add I'm using MSR&s so I won't get too much out of higher end DAPs but may upgrade headphones in the next year or two.

>>55720471
I'm guessing you mean the o2 amp alone without the odac costs $130?. Mine cost £120 so I would definitely save money and buy it at that price. I'm using my o2 amp with a separate o2 dac and while I think it's a tiny bit better than the hifidiyme it's not really worth it. The sabre and o2 amp is a brilliant combo and they will drive those headphones very well.

>>55720626
Out of interest did your HiFimeDIY come with an optical out?

New thread:
>>55720699
>>55720699
>>55720699

>>55720687
No, it was this one.

http://hifimediy.com/Sabre-9018-DAC

>>55714428
Reviews say they break really easily, in just a couple months, and constantly, said by people who have purchased 3 or 4 pairs.
Any other suggestions? I guess durability is important for me.