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KAT IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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> FEDS SEIZE KICKASSTORRENTS DOMAINS, ARREST OWNER

The U.S. Government has arrested the alleged owner of KickassTorrents, the world's largest torrent site. The 30-year-old Ukrainian was arrested in Poland today and is charged with criminal copyright infringement and money laundering. In addition, a federal court in Chicago has ordered the seizure of several KAT domain names.

Empire of KickassTorrents (KAT) has finally ended after U.S. authorities announced the arrest of the site’s alleged owner. The 30-year-old Artem Vaulin, from Ukraine, was arrested today in Poland from where the United States has requested his extradition.

In a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago, the owner is charged with conspiracy to commit criminal copyright infringement, conspiracy to commit money laundering, and two counts of criminal copyright infringement.

The complaint further reveals that the feds posed as an advertiser, which revealed a bank account associated with the site. It also shows that Apple handed over personal details of Vaulin after the investigator cross-referenced an IP-address used for an iTunes transaction with an IP-address that was used to login to KAT’s Facebook account.

It also shows that Apple handed over personal details of Vaulin after the investigator cross-referenced an IP-address used for an iTunes transaction.

Commenting on the announcement, Assistant Attorney General Caldwell said that KickassTorrents helped to distribute over $1 billion in pirated files.

“Vaulin is charged with running today’s most visited illegal file-sharing website, responsible for unlawfully distributing well over $1 billion of copyrighted materials.”

“In an effort to evade law enforcement, Vaulin allegedly relied on servers located in countries around the world and moved his domains due to repeated seizures and civil lawsuits. His arrest in Poland, however, demonstrates again that cybercriminals can run, but they cannot hide from justice.”
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>>55680420
>guy lives in Ukraine
>creates a torrents site, since it's legal in his coutnry
>FBI raids his ass, while he's in Poland

Why is this allowed?
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>>55680972
You want Poland to fight US for this little guy ?
Just forget it.
Not worth risking embargo and trade blockade.
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The irony being that KAT complied with DMCA all the fucking time
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>>55681037
Why is US domestic law enforcement allowed to arrest innocent people in other countries?

That's like Russian FSB coming to your house and arresting you because you talked shit about Putin on the internet.
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>>55681083
KAT was more like an organised conspiracy to talk shit about putin on the internet. If you did that you might find some polonium in your coffee
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>>55681093
The main point is that it's not illegal in his home country, so he committed no crime.
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>>55680420
Good, break the law, face the time. Pay for software you parasites.
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>>55681148
>>55681110
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>>55680420
"Ok"
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>>55681188
yeah. there are a few alternative domain names that load it up just fine....are these just mirrors? so no new torrents?
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>>55681110
Yes, but it's not crime either if US (or company in US) suddenly reduce trade with his home country.
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>>55681229
They can't they are supporting the current regime in the ongoing civil war.
Once they reduce the trade the rebels will steamroll the whole thing.
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I wonder who could be behind this.
:V)
> 1 billion in pirated files
Bullshit. How did they arrive at that figure?

> America World Police
> Land of the free (tm)
FUCKING BURGERS REEEEEEEEE
Stop helping your overlords getting more shekels.
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It isn't a crime in Poland and I do think the US is over extending itself constantly in regards to how it handles Piracy.
I think you all know these cases go nowhere and the US is just flexing its big boy muscles.
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>>55681110
He was stupid enough to briefly host KAT in Chicago at one point, which is why the complaint was filed in US District Court in Chicago and why they want him extradited and judged under US law.
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>>55680972
Might makes right, how old are you?
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>>55681278
Meanwhile at Apple,
>Terrorist
>No, we won't disclose privacy

>Shekel making company
>Sure, here's the data
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So what are people gonna use now, that pbay and kat are down for good?
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>>55681331
Law is a thing, you know.
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>>55681317
This is precisely why they were able to arrest him how they did.
Find me a country that will not request another countries citizen to stand trial for a crime committed in said country.
Even the US lets other countries capture fugitives that come here.
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>>55680420
>government caught pirating half a billion worth of software.
>Gets KAT to appease the jews
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>>55681308
Nope.
I think it happen before, a UK student was successfully extradited to US for linking pirate content.
Also, megaupload Kim Dotcom caught in NZ but still on trial to extradite to US.
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He should have stepped up his game and made it a nice 6 billion to piss off the j*ws.
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Is http://www.sumotorrent.sx/ legit?
It was in the past but the seed & leecher data looks faked as fuck.
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DEMONOID SHALL RISE AGAIN
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>>55680420
>“I observed […] that they were all running the same Linux Gentoo operating system, and that they contained files with user information, SSH access logs, and other information, including a file titled ‘passwd’ located in the ‘etc’ directory,” the HSI agent writes.

Top kek.
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>>55680420
>KAT IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you based Apple
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>>55680420

Literally ZeroNet or pay to torrent like a ptg cuck
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>>55680420
>downloaded hours and hours of porn because i suspected something fucked was going to happen to torrent sites/ISP crackdowns
>it actually happens
*fap* *fap* *fap*
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>>55680972

That fookin retard hosted a KAT server in US
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>>55681221
>so no new torrents?

Yup, no fucking way I am trusting the mirrors to use my credentials for uploading any new stuff there
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>>55681083
>Why is US domestic law enforcement allowed to arrest innocent people in other countries?
Because so much of the Internet's infrastructure is in America, so even if he never set foot there, he still broke laws there and can be prosecuted for it.
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>>55681569
> mfw porn streaming master race once again proven right
How do you like your porn, torrent fags? Oh wait, YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT ANYMORE LMAO
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How did he not get caught earlier?

Was he always just sending money straight into a bank account with his name? What the fuck.
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>>55681685

He was not under US jurisdiction before that server in US I think
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>>55681538
/thread
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>With records from some of the world's largest tech firms like Apple, Facebook and Google, it does not appear to have been particularly difficult to connect the dots.
>At a point in the investigation, Mr Der-Yeghiayan worked out the Apple-run email address [email protected] belonged to Artem Vaulin.
>That email address was the linchpin in the case:
> - The username "tirm" was known as the administrator of KAT
> - Investigators discovered the email had made a purchase on iTunes using the IP address 109.86.226.203
> - They cross referenced the IP address with the social media site Facebook and found that someone had logged into KAT's account with the same IP address that day
> - They found emails from known KAT domains in the email inbox
> - They found bug reports referencing the KAT website and feature requests, which were tasked to "Artem Vaulin"
> - The investigators found emails from KAT employees asking what to do about a copyright takedown request, with the subject line being: Ignore? The reply from Mr Vaulin was "of course"
> - They also found a series of test emails from [email protected] and [email protected] to the [email protected] account

Well done Facebook, well done Apple, well done Google.
Maybe that will teach people to not buy into the retarded social media and cloud bullshit.
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>>55681715
Only criminals fear them. Are you a criminal, anon?
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>>55681715
We warned you
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>>55681745
According to US law, yes.
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>>55681336
>meanwhile us navy is sued for piracy
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>>55681829
*Privateering.

They were under government mandate, after all.
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>>55681331
Exactly. I can't wait to live in a world free of digital piracy.
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the fuck do I use now? my meager wooden rubles not enough for netflix/crunchyroll and steam i'd have nothing to eat
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>>55681308
The thing with Poland is that many intelectualy properties don't have legal representatives here, so you are free to download movies which are not distributed here, same goes for music that is not sold in shops (i.e. managed by Zaiks) or even games. Even sites like Chomikuj made a deal with certain companies to additionaly sell legal stuff, so they can continue to operate.
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>>55681715
this is a good example of someone sucking at opsec
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>>55681873
intelectual*
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>>55681870
Nigga you shouldn't be asking this anymore
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>>55681873
Poland is a nation of criminals, I wish hitler won the war.
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>>55681918

Its shit right now
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>>55681920
Hitler was a criminal too, though.
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>>55681920
Thanks for your valuable opinion.
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So it is really the end this time?
I mean no just for kat but for everything.
If the USA has such long reach who will risk setting up a site like kat again.

>I am butt devastated.
>Used to download GB of comics weekly.
>Where will (- Nem -) group release now.
>We truly live in the dark age now.
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>>55681984

literally dozens of alternatives right now

I am pretty sure people will start hosting it from best korea if they have to now
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>>55681148
> break the law
But he didn't. It was perfectly legal in the country in which he lived.
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>>55682006
Why did nobody thought about this yet?
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>>55680420
A Ukrainian in Poland arrested by the feds. Since when is Poland part of the U.S.?

Kidnapping of a citizin by a foreign government. Sounds like an act of war to me.
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>>55682005
like what?
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>>55682006
He operated his server in a country where it wasn't legal. How is such a simple concept foreign to you?
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>>55682006

That faget hosted a server in US soil hence coming under US jurisdiction
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>>55682030
See >>55681317

>>55682053
>>55682055
Yeah, I know. How long was it operation in Chicago for?
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>>55681454
yay
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>>55682050

google filename you want you will find several torrent/DDL sites
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He got caught because he paid for some music on iTunes.

If that ain't the most ironic thing you hear this year, I'll be damned
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>>55681934
No he wasn't
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>>55682087
Then how'd he end up in jail?
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>>55682048
it's US dude, the country with the special needs
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>>55680420
And yet, mactards still think Apple cares about their privacy. They get proven wrong time and time again, yet they still open their ass wide for more fuckings.
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>>55682006
He also broke US and international law. If poland and ukraine wants to help criminals fuck over corporations and content creators, they're part of the problem.
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>>55682074
yeah, right, at least 15 first links will be malware ridden pits of horrors
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>>55682030
meant for
>>55682005
woops
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is FBI going to hunt down anime sites next? I'm scared.
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What the alternative now?

I wanted to get a few recent movies
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>>55682235

rarbg
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>>55681873
What this faggot is trying to say is that copyright infrigement in Poland is a matter of civil, not criminal law. That said, Vaulin was wanted by the US for allegedly commiting criminal acts (including money laundering) in the US because of the Chicago server.

>>55682048
He was not arrested by the feds, for fucks sake. He was arrested by the Polish police after the US contacted Polish General Prosecutor's Office saying: "hey, there's this guy that commited a crime in the US, can we have him for trial please?". What happens next is Burgers need to file for his extradition to which Polish court can either agree or not. The court, however, will only look into whether there's any legal ground for the extradition itself, not into whether the charges he faces under US law have any ground.
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>>55682229
Fuck no.

FBI cares about what is valuable to the American economy or foreign relations. Anime is basically worthless to the economy and isn't represented by major American corporations, and Japan does not care about it, because anime makes for great soft power, pirated or not.
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>>55682235
>appear to be female
That's a dude.
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>>55682245
I regret asking
[spoiler]good thing I had Outpost up and running[/spoiler]
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>>55682252
You didn't need to call me a faggot, but thanks for the clarification.
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>>55682235
Private trackers.
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>>55681188
Mirror as of a day ago, all torrents are at least a day old, the torrent pages aren't accessible.
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>>55682261

>I regret asking

why? it's mostly the same shit
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>>55682265
Those will be next after public trackers are a thing of the past.
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>>55682265
Yeah but they all have some retarded rules so in the end you end up not downloading anything at all because your account will be locked for some retarded shit so fuck that
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>>55682263
>You didn't need to call me a faggot
Where do you think we are?
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>>55682277
fuck off
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>>55682287
What kind of question is this? If you're unable to address somebody without adding an unwarranted insult then it's your problem, not mine. Even /pol/ isn't this aggressive.
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>>55682263
Pizda.
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>>55682265
They can get taken down just as easily, since the feds were pretending to be an ad agency. They can get infiltrated and taken down quite easily, they're next in line after public trackers.
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>>55682281
keep believing this, it keeps morons like you out
this is why standards are a good thing—any standard immediately forces the expression of disparity between the niggers of society and us normal people
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On that note, does anyone know what the fuck happened to it-ebooks.info? The site is down and the twitter is silent.
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>>55682310
>keep believing this, it keeps morons like you out
I don't think you understand what private trackers means then. Seems like you never used one.
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>>55682335
>On that note, does anyone know what the fuck happened to it-ebooks.info? The site is down and the twitter is silent.

>tfw want to get latest Bakker's book Great Ordeal but literally can't find anywhere
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>>55681339
would also like to know
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>>55682359
funny enough google still works
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>>55682304
Their size means they're not a particularly attractive target.
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>>55682383
do I need a friend to get into one of those? cos i ain't got any friends
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>>55682355
Fiction is useless, only tech books are worth reading, because they give you knowledge, I don't see how anyone can waste their time reading fiction in the year 2016.
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>>55682401
You can join what.cd via IRC interview. Most other trackers are accessible via what.cd's invites forum.

https://www.whatinterviewprep.com/
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>>55682402
>>55682402
Since when do robots allowed on 4chan?
How did you bypass captcha? Didn't you see it says "prove you are not a robot"? You are breaking 4chan's EULA and rules please leave
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>>55682418
>You can join what.cd
What happened to waffles.fm btw?
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>>55682427
You done with the ad-hominem? Can we get back to the argument at hand?
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>>55682402
This is why nobody respects millenials.
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>>55682364
how is this helpful?
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>>55682448
Domain changed to waffles.ch
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>>55682402
Fiction, among other things (literary or otherwise), creates the societal tastes and biases, so even a superficial understanding of it helps. Reading also helps build empathy and "connect the dots" when it comes to the evolution of human thought throughout the ages.

You sound like a hyper-utilitarian fag, though, so I don't expect you to understand the pleasure of reading a good book.
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>>55682452
But there's literally no benefit in reading fiction, as opposed to reading a book on a programming language, since the latter might get you skill and knowledge, but the former will simply waste your time with madeup stories someone wrote to sell their books since they have no real world skills.
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>>55682469
>User account is disabled.

oh well
I thought they died
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>>55682476
>creates the societal tastes and biases, so even a superficial understanding of it helps.
*tips*
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TIME FOR IPFS CLONE
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>>55682498
How are you going to relate to anyone from your peer-group if there's literally nothing you have in common? Even a basic understanding a book's plot can give you a conversation starter. I didn't mean any NLP shit or "social-engineering", but simple human contact.
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>>55682485
some people read for the benefit of "pleasure" not "knowledge"
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>>55681348
>that come here

He's home though. Big difference
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>>55682517
Nah, all the people are know are from work or uni and I only talk with them about IT related stuff.
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>>55682485
There's also no apparent benefit in watching "The Godfather" as opposed to "Erlang: The Movie", and yet I consider a guy that doesn't know the movie canon a fucking savage. Same applies to "Master and Margerita" vs. "SICP".

>madeup stories someone wrote to sell their books
Not all literature is 20th century American for-profit pulp fiction, you wildling.
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>>55682554
>responding to a savage and basement dweller

you sure do hate yourself
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>>55682401
Lets be friends!
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>>55682554
> and yet I consider a guy that doesn't know the movie canon a fucking savage
Good thing that they don't ask about god father at tech interviews, heh.
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>>55680420
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”
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>>55682485
kill yourself autismo
>>55682517
kill yourself normalfag
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>>55682567
>someone doesn't waste their time reading madeup stories
>basement dweller!! hurr!!
Jesus fucking Christ. Go back to /lit/ shithead.
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>>55682469
How do you join? I need a provider that isn't fucking Yify
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>>55682301
>/pol/ outta nowhere
Back to /v/ asap
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>>55682304
>since the feds were pretending to be an ad agency
If a private tracker has ads it's a shitty fucking tracker that's basically asking to be fucked by the feds.
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>>55682753
How are they going to survive then? Donations alone can't cover all the expenses and nobody is going to pay out of pockets for the web site.
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>>55682652
Waffles is shit compared to what.cd.

And see >>55682418
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>>55682781
Well, it's how what's been surviving for coming up on 9 years now and it's one of the largest private trackers out there.
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>>55682402
Real edgy of you anon
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>>55682457
try searching something you need by adding magnet/torrent etc. in search and it finds it, be careful though and look what you click
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>making a facebook page for a fucking torrent site
It's his fault, fucking dumbass, if you expected facebook/apple not to see your location and your IP address then you are truly stupid. If he wouldn't log into facebook all of this could be avoided
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Why does American law apply to other countries? Do other country's law apply to America?
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>>55682796
I guess they just have enough donations or they simply give out top uploaders various privileges for money.
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>>55682793
I thought what.cd just did music
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>>55683022
Waffles only does music too.
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>>55682946
Fucking this. The absolute WORST thing you can do for a public tracker is to have normalfag social media pages.

The drooling retards on /g/ have no one to blame but themselves for not insuring themselves against garbage like this. I encourage those who are in the know not to spoonfeed ANYONE.
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>>55682946
That, and he shouldn't have paid for music.
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>>55681417
No that British kid wasn't extradited in the end
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>>55683022
forget what.cd.
It is a bunch of pretentious dicks.
You have to do an interview to be invited.
It is pathetic.
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>>55680420
Why do burgers have to stick their pork sausage everywhere ?
Fucking cunts
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PUBLIC TRACKER CÚCKS BTFO
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>>55683039
Oh.
Do you know any private trackers that mainly deal in movies would have a process to join? I've applied to one of them (the name escapes me, its on the reddit apply-able trackers) but I'd mostly want to get into PTP.
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>>55683050
You can be invited normally, you know. The interview is there for people who want to get in but don't know anyone who is a current member.
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>>55680420
Finally!
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>public trackers
lmao
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>>55683113
so like 99% of the people.
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>>55683050
>forget what.cd.
>It is a bunch of pretentious dicks.
>You have to do an interview to be invited.
>It is pathetic.
The interview filters out incompetent and illiterate users.
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>>55682126
>International law
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>>55683125
this site is 18+
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>>55683136
Yeah and it collects IP and desktop screenshots like a good three letter agency.
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>>55683192
The public tracker collects your IP as well. It's an inherent part of the BitTorrent protocol.
Desktop screenshots?
Not in my What.CD interview.
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>>55683130
With most other trackers, invites are your only way in. Is that better?

>>55683105
No.

The easiest way to get into PTP is via another tracker with a good invites forum. The easiest tracker to get into with a good invites forum is what.cd. This is a bit time consuming though, since you need to reach power user on what, and the PTP recruiter may have even more time requirements.

The other option is to find a member of PTP and beg for an invite. PTP is full at the moment, though, and non-staff members can't invite anyone.
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>>55683125
>public trackers
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>>55682235
Usenet+vpn masterrace
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>Some cunt runs the largest torrenting site in the world
>Doesn't use a VPN
????????
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Well, Private Trackers here i go.
Now that i have a some money i can pay for a seedbox
btw, what is a good tracker for games?
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>>55683291
Gazellegames and BCG. Neither are as high quality as the good music/tv/movie trackers, but they're acceptable.

Gazellegames should have open signups at the moment.
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Can anons suggest a decent private tracker for TV shows that is open for registration right now? No invite, interview nonsense?
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>>55683674
> private tracker
> no invite, interview nonsense
So, an open tracker?
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Are there any cached pages? There were 2 users I actively followed and they had backup sites which I never bookmarked
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>>55680420
what are some good alternatives
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>>55683858
Try wayback machine.

web.archive.org/web/*/kat.cr
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>public trackers
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>>55683953

Entire Bittorrent protocol was birthed, supported and sustained due to public trackers.
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>>55683953
>ratio cuck
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>>55682485
>no benefit in reading fiction

I am in awe at your stupidity.
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>>55682867
Hey thanks, i just won a million dollars
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>>55681339
The Pirate Bay is still up, dumbass
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>>55684523
Except it's an FBI honeypot.
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>>55684562
Thanks god I'm not american.
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>>55684579
You in a country where the TPP is gonna be active? Guess what, US companies will be able to sue and it's likely that you'll get done for piracy in your own country too.
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>>55684562
explain how are tracker can be honeypot

they could just grab any torrent and see the IPs of seeders
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>>55684597
Every person wanting a torrent on the pirate bay has to access the website at some point, so rather than connecting up to every active torrent they could get everyone at once with relative ease.
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>>55684611
You can use a proxy or Tor when accessing the site. And just accessing TPB isn't a crime anyway.
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>>55684638
>accessing TPB isn't a crime anyway
yet.

>You can use a proxy or Tor when accessing the site
Still not 100% safe, and even then it's unlikely that >10% of people use a VPN and >1% use TOR.
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>>55681352
source?
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>>55681656
Do both. Mostly stream/download flvs but sometimes torrent if gud
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>>55680420
>created facebook page for torrent site
>ran a torrent site but used itunes anyway
>hosted a torrent site in the states for a while
he was asking to get busted
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>>55681920
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>>55681715
>using iTunes
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>>55681083
you tard, if a US citizen massively breaks another countries' laws, the US will arrest and ship your ass out as well. This just does not happen as often
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>>55681715
> Ignore? The reply from Mr Vaulin was "of course"
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>>55681336
Apple always complied with giving data that they had. The FBI thought there was more information on the phone so they wanted Apple to compromise the encryption of all their phones.
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>>55682533
>I Can't Read: The Post
He was saying that even the US gives up criminals who commit crimes in other countries and come to the US.
The US has the power to just say "lol no", but it doesn't.
Poland literally can't say no. This retard committed a crime in the US by retardedly hosting an illegal server in US.
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>>55681715
how to opsec
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>>55682095
the jews
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>>55680972
>creates a torrents site, since it's legal in his coutnry

he creates torrent site because #Yolo
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>>55685329
US laws only work inside US, idiot.
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>>55685513
The actual act was being committed outside of the US

It's a technicality. Amerifats just hate people who don't recognize the right of filmmakers and musicians to be the upper class.
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>>55685603
And at one point he had servers for the site in the US. He fucked up.
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>>55685612
The actual law-breaking occurred within the US

That's like saying that if you were a 1336 haxor and you took down a bunch of US govt sites, the US govt wouldn't be allowed to come after you if you didn't live in the US
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>>55685637
The server isn't the law breaking, the person running the server is. There's a difference.

>use magic to manufacture heroin in the middle of the woods in america
>live where it's legal, perform all your spells from there
Where did you manufacture the heroin?
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>>55685655
>The server isnt hosting illegal content the guy is hosting illegal content
ok

Also, you manufactured the heroin in the US. The heroin is being produced in the US. You are performing the manufacturing outside the US, but that doesn't make it legal to grow it there.
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>>55685623
wonder if they also are fucking him for not paying taxes for the period he mad bank while in the US
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>>55681278
download numbers, page view, price of the movies if they are bought

If the guy made many millions in Ad Revenue it's not far fetched.
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>>55685692
You are manufacturing heroin outside of the US, but heroin is being manufactured inside the US.
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Wait, so what the fuckity fuck am I supposed to do now?

I have access to no private trackers nor private IRC channels, and KAT was the only good public tracker. I don't know anyone who could give me an invite and all the trackers with open sign-ups are shit from the looks of it.

Hold on while I kill my poorfag ass.
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>>55685513
> Poland literally can't say no
It can and has numerous times in the case of Polanski who's wanted by the US for fucking a 13-y.o. skank in California in the 70's. Vaulin, however, is not a Polish citizen, so they have no reason not to suck Uncle Sam's cock in his case.
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>>55684659
>Still not 100% safe

torrenting is about 100% unsafe
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>>55685721
Which doesn't make it legal to have heroin manufactured in the US
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>be born on Earth
>have laws apply to you
>never agreed to anything before hand
>never harm anyone
>handcuffed at gunpoint
>placed in a cage

why is this allowed
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>>55685723
You still got a lot of various warez sites to choose from or use rutracker, but it's also prone to often DMCA takedowns.
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>>55685723
what is your problem? why can't you use private trackers?
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>>55685766
Because is funny?
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>>55685655
So you think if you run a business that does something illegal in a given country while never being in that country yourself you're not violating any laws?
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>>55685781
Because you need an invite for the good ones.
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>tfw will have to go to deep web for downloading mods because that copy right douch bagery too
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>>55680420
>Ukrainian
He's probably already dead knowing how much love is there between Poland and (((ukraine)))
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>>55685723
Take five minutes to learn the shit you need to pass the interview for what, then work your way up to power user to get access to the invites forum. At that point you're basically set for life.
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>>55685808
>dep web
>mods
>don't downlioading dankmemes
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>>55685761
But you're not committing a crime in the US. If anything, you're committing a crime against the US.
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>>55680420
To think just two days ago all the public tracker plebs were laughing about how good they have it. Lol PUBLIC TRACKER P LEBS who's laughing now Hahahahhahahahahshshshshshshshahahahahahahahahahahahahahakekekejejejejejelrlelelelel

Oh how I loooove much btn account
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>>55685329

so am i at constant risk of being extradited to saudi arabia to receive death penalty because i posted "muhammed sucks"?

i wonder how many countries i'm under arrest in right at this moment
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>>55685867
what do you think is stopping btn from going down that would not exist if it were a public tracker

people with its worst interests in mind could make accounts for the sole purpose of DMCA-ing the fuck out of everything
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>>55685831
Can you get an invite for Jpopsuki over What? If yes I might do this, I always wanted a Jpopsuki invite.

Still, I'd rather not be a ratio cuck, with my shitty internet and all.
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>>55680420
Can you believe this shit public tracker plebs the leader of kat used a home up to buy songs on iTunes log into his kat bank account and update the kat Facebook page.

I mean what the fuck what the fucking fuck.

Gonna be a shame when the feds seize that Mac mini cluster
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>>55685766
it would be impossible to keep track of who agreed to what legal protections and access to what infrastructure / services

the best that can be done is just assume everyone wants to fully participate in lawful society
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>>55685886
Gee I have more confidence that feds placing add on btn won't happen because they don't have as for one thing.

Pretty sure they aren't complete retards like the kat admin. Fucking hell out is who they want for sure and even put is nowhere near as ass retarded as this guy was.
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>>55685896
Yes. As far as I can tell there's not a staff member providing though, so you're dependent on other users having invites available.
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>>55685837
*tips spook
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>>55685837
The crime is being committed in the US. The heroin being manufactured is the crime. The heroin is being manufactured in the US. The crime is being committed in the US.
>>
just used it yesterday. better change my name
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>>55685936
The crime is a person manufacturing heroin. They are not doing it in the US, but the heroin is appearing in the US. It's a crime against the US, like detonating a bomb in the US while sitting in russia.
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>>55681829

You cannot sue the US government. Only the government can sue its self.
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>>55685953
And you are manufacturing heroin that is in the US. Thanks for making my point.
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>>55686000
But you're not doing it in the US.
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I'm still seeding torrents from there. I don't care.
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>>55685971
You can sue the government. Why the fuck would you think you couldn't.
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>>55686012
>if I'm in Moscow and I shoot a gun through a portal and kill someone in USA, the crime of murder isnt occurring in the USA
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>>55686072
It isn't. You're not in the US.

"Crimes in" and "crimes against" are two different things
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>>55686072
If you are in Mexico and fire a gun and it kills someone in the USA you are going to prison in Murcia mate
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>>55686105
The person is being killed in the US. The murder is occurring in the US. Murder is illegal. The murder is occurring in the US. You don't have to be present at the site of death to be a murderer.
>poison somebody's glass
>fly away to Russia
>person drinks
>dies
>lol it isnt murder in the us xD
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>>55683674
Seconding this
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>>55681083
because USA thinks it is World Police, besides Polan and US have extradition deal so its pretty much A-ok to ask Poland to get the guy and hand him over.
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>>55686105
>"crimes against"
this guy wasn't committing a "crime against" the US by hosting illegal shit there, he was committing a crime against the content creators. The actual illegal activity was in the US, because hosting illegal shit is illegal.
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>>55685885
only if you committed a crime within saudi arabia
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>>55686167
You mean the content creator's jewish managers.
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didnt he know that you can use facebook from tor? theres even a .onion url for that.
https://www.facebookcorewwwi.onion
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>>55686198
Also this yes
>>
This shit better be sorted out by october.

I'm not paying the slavemasters at Amazon for Top Gear Two
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>>55686198

we're helping them understand by getting them out of their job. It's hard, but otherwise they will never learn.
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>>55685867
and if you don't log on routinely you get disabled.
Lol
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>>55685747
at least it's better than how Sweden handled the TPB case
>>
If you're a complete fucking retard and can't get into any private trackers (which is so easy; the public tracker fags just say its hard) then you can try XDCC on IRC.. it's a channel full of bots that serve thousands of files and the selection although not PT good.. it should compare to most public trackers if you use the right one.
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>>55685766
Do you have a birth certificate? Then guess what, your ass is owned by your government, or more closer to the mark, the banks which loan money to your government. That certificate is 'legal tender' documenting that you are a asset owned by the state.
>>
P-Bay is still good though, right lads? Just dwnloaded a few shows to get my fix. How fucked am I?
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>>55681148
>Pay for software
you think he got arrested for distributing pirated software? are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>55686694
where the fuck are you going with this?
of course that is why he got arrested.

i support piracy and you're fucking retarded.
>>
Damn, I was gonna pirate After Effects and Premiere this week.
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>>55686576
>XD
Kill yourself
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>>55686728
kek
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>>55686187
So is the internet overseas waters now?
Am I in US soil because this site is american?
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>>55681343
not for the powerful
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>>55686691
Do you realize that The Pirate Bay is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face
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>>55680420
>buy something on iTunes
>Apple hands over info to the FBI
>get vanned
Does any dumb fuck still think that Apple was withholding the San Bernardino shooters' information because they care about their customers' privacy?
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>>55686728
how old are you
>>
>>55686773
(You)
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>>55681891
>>55685532
>what is parallel construction
>>
>>55686716
he got arrested by the MPAA. no one even cares about pirated software.
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>>55686785
>le "Stop the Commies" meme

GET TO THE BOMB SHELTERS!!!
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>>55686012
>>55686072
>>55686105
>>55686125
>>55686141
/g/ - Law and Lawyer Stuff
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>>55686948
>the MPAA has the power to arrest

but okay, yes. nice semantic (((semitic?))) argument. i'll make a better copy of that guy's post so you won't cry in just a minute.
>>
What am i going to use now?
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>>55687008
huh don't know,guess you could read or something
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>>55680420 (OP)
Good, break the law, face the time. Pay for shit you parasites.
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>>55687008
Private trackers.

Prepare to get ratio cucked, soon-to-be ratio cuckslut!
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>>55687021
>(OP) (OP)
sides in orbit. i'm not making another post to remedy this.
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>>55686994
DUN DUN
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>>55686800
The dumb fuck here is you sinc you don't seem to understand the difference between the two situations.

Here Apple gave info (an IP address from an iTunes transaction) from THEIR servers.
Nothing more nothing less.

In the terrorist case, the FBI wanted Apple to give them access to the terrorist's iPhone, doing so would compromise the HUNDRED MILLIONS of iPhone currently in the market making them all vulnerable to law enforcement shady antics.

Do you now see the difference or do I have to explain further?
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>>55686994
Now this is demoralizing
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>>55687041
I guess no one uses iTunes, so it's ok for Apple to give out that information.
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>>55681244
Why would they care? They only support the current regime (CR) because the current regime is their bitch. If the CR stops offering up the sweet ass then they no longer have any reason to care about protecting the CR.
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>>55687068
Are you dense?

How does giving away an Ukrainian pirate's IP address used in an iTunes transaction present the same liability as allowing law enforcement agencies to look (by look I mean gaining total access) at your iPhone?

Are all iTunes users prone to be prosecuted and see the FBI ask for their IP address?

Are all iPhone users prone to be targets for American law enforcement agencies in post-Patriot Act United States?

What is the most likely? What has already been documented? What makes the most sense?
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>>55687193
>How does giving away an Ukrainian pirate's IP address used in an iTunes transaction present the same liability as allowing law enforcement agencies to look (by look I mean gaining total access) at your iPhone?
It was enough to put him in prison you dumb faggot, why the fuck would it be any different if they gave the FBI access to the phones?
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>>55687238
It doesn't involve backdooring their mobile operating system.
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>>55687281
>It doesn't involve backdooring their mobile operating system.
Apple can replace a broken home button on the iPhone, they already have a backdoor.
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>>55687193
Stop posting that pedophile Sam Hyde
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>>55687281
can't they retrieve the data, hand over the data?
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>>55681110
The argument is that since the businesses he harmed exist on US soil, then the crime actually took place in the US. It's like if you used ransomware on someone, did the crime occur at your pc in russia or on their pc in the US? which laws apply?

I still think that while he should have been guilty of a criminal charge in the US, that shouldnt give the FBI the ability to arrest him overseas. Sure if he comes onto american soil then they can do what they want but America having world jurisdiction as long as they can justify that their interests were harmed then it seriously worries me. No wonder Snowden is hiding in Russia.
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>>55681656
>private trackers
>other public tracers
>mega
you can still download the torrents, the tracker site is just down
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>>55686716
>>55687000
>>55687021
>>55687035
lemme guess, you are a (((""""content creator"""")))
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>>55680420

>uses iTunes
>uses Facebook

is this the dumbest criminal of all time?
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>>55687510
no lol
>>
I'm glad that's i'm autistic enough not to like music or gaming
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>>55687947
not autistic enough to learn grammar
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>>55681053
Read the charges.

Not being brought in for hosting torrent files (they are legal even if its for copyright material).

Its for hosting torrents AND profiting from it (e.g. add revenue)
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>>55681630
Canada, wasn't it?
>>
>>55680420
>FBI raids a Ukranian guy in Poland for committing crimes against the US
Am I going to get New York police officers kicking down my hotel door in another state if I ever leave Arizona for violating their state's assault weapon ban?
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>>55688279
Every country belongs to the USA.
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>>55688279
He hosted a server in the US for a short time.
>>
where can I pirate my ebooks and courses now...? fuck this
>>
So he isn't charged with copyright, but he's charged with profiting off the site?
What dumbass tries to actually make revenue from torrenting?
>>
I don't get how torrenting is a bad thing.
It's like you give your friend, for example, a Fallout 3 CD after you installed it on your pc, and your friend uses that cd (that you gave him) instead of buying the game.
>>
>KAT down.
Welp, from were I will get my ebooks now. Demonoid will not be killed, r-r-right?
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>>55680972
Keep your punk ass and servers in Ukraine then.
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>>55689493
Anytime you make a copyright-able work you get the exclusive right to distribute that work. If the owners of Fallout 3 want to let you distribute it, thats their decision to make.
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>>55689208
many MOOCs use youtube. just use youtube-dl
also, you can find ebooks simply by googling... and there are many sites that share them
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Is there any movie tracker you can get into that doesn't require playing the autistic whatcd game?
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>>55689899
now u jinxed it fucking idiot
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>>55680420
>owner of most popular piracy website uses Apple products
what the actual fuck
he cant be that fucking retarded and literal noob
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>>55681037

Ayy that's not how diplomacy works dummy

this isn't civ 3
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https://kat.al still works.
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>>55691944
it doesnt update
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>>55681715
The fuck? I don't even know the first thing about staying anonymous online and I still know enough to not fuck up that bad.
>>
how long does the what.cd interview take?
how long does it take after the request to start the interview?

can you just have the interview prep site open and answer every question or will they notice?
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>>55692201
They will notice, you have to record your screen
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>>55693417
Use a second computer or your phone dummy
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>>55693417

oh is it via skype or something? i thought it was just basic text questions via irc
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>>55682265
>Have sattelite internet
>Have to rely on mobile to get any kind of speed that is used for more than internet browsing
>Asks to seed for days after spending half a week downloading one thing
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>>55693477
Yes, you also need a webcam ofc which is why >>55693454 won't work.
They aren't dumb, anon. People have thought of cheating before you.
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>>55688256

No one was in US soil for a certain period of time
>>
Anyone who went through a fucking interview for downloading movies and tv shows is a major cuck.I mean is there anything more embarrassing than this?
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>>55694428
This, fuck that shit.

I'll just find someone to get me an invite. Much easier
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