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Some of you /g/amers must be using Wine, not all of the games on Steam have been ported yet.

What games do you play? What's your experience with Wine been like? Is the default install enough for what you need to do?
(sorry in advance if this belongs on /g/ but I'm a /g/entooman and I thought it was at least partly relevant here, no bully pls)
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>>55666756
GPU passthrough is a thing these days
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>>55666788
You mean with KVM?
You need 2 gpus for that I think, and I think many people who just want to play some old vidya from the 90s/00s will probably have just the 1 gpu.
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>>55666756
Not worth the trouble with games made after 2008
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>>55667095
What games have you tried that didn't work?
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Playing Touhou and osu! with Wine. The most complex part was looking up how to install .NET 4.0.
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>>55667171
Well like, sometimes you can get them to work it's just that it's a lot of effort. Especially if they use something later than directx9
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>>55667203
>tfw I get more FPS on wine-staging than on NT 6.4
Even gaymen work better for me on GNU/Linux.
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>>55667219
This desuka, anything above DX 9 is a chore, good luck with DX11 games.
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>>55666756
The Hyperdimension Neptunia games have JUST WERKED for me. Faster frame-rate than Windows too.

HL2 has too many glitches when you run it through WINE, though you don't really need to since there's a Linux port of that.

Black Mesa has serious framerate issues in WINE.

Overall WINE has been pretty hit-and-miss for me.
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>>55666756
Dark souls 2 with CSMT no problems, random grass pop-in but thats about it.

Fallout:NV seems to work just fine with staging water reflections turned off, disables hud for some reason.
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It's amazing how simple everything has become. The other day I installed Typing of the Dead for my gf and from the installer to playing the game, everything just worked out of the box (1.8.3. on Xubuntu 16.04)
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so glad I use windows like a sane human being and don't have to worry about using this stupid duct-tape method just to get games working.

i really do pity linuxtards.
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>>55666871
i think if you have both an integrated GPU and a separate one it works too

that's the most likely solution
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>>55667720
we pity you for being botnet+telemetry-loving cucks too ;^]
<3
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>>55667761
What are you doing that you're so worried about telemetry?
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>>55667622
>black mesa
Why the fuck would you do that? Do the goldsrc games not have Linux ports?
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>>55667761
unlike you, I've been using windows for 20 years so I actually know how to properly configure my system. I routinely develop software for windows,so I know pretty fucking well what's going on.
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>>55667784
>unlike you, I've been using windows for 20 years
You say that like it's something to be proud of.
Heres a fact, I used Windows since 95 all the way through to 8.1 and eventually just decided to grow up and use a real and free(dom) OS. Not quite 20 years but it wasn't something I would say I'm proud about.
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>>55667774
>i don't value privacy because i have nothing to hide
>i don't value freedom of speech because i have nothing to say
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>>55667816
>You say that like it's something to be proud of.
I'm 100% proud of it.
It feels good knowing what's going on in my system,and the fact I didn't have to resort to using an entirely different OS due to some supposed blackbox.

I don't blame you. If I didn't know how to properly secure my Windows, I'd probably use a Linux distro too.
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>>55666756
Ditch the emulator and use the real thing.
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I have a shitty ATI Radeon HD 4200 as GPU, so I don't even bother with newer games. I can run some stuff, but since I'm mostly emulating old consoles, I don't know much. What are some games you don't need any workarounds to make it work? I'm using Fedora 24 x64
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Vanilla wow seems to work with defualt wine on gentoo. Haven't tried any other games.
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>>55667930
Also, I could play some Blizzard games just fine with Linux Mint, and Hearthstone with Manjaro without many workarounds.
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If PlayOnLinux has support for the game I'm looking to play, I'll use it to configure Wine for me - never had any trouble there.

If I have to configure Wine manually, it tends to be hit or miss. I was able to get Dark Souls 1 running without a hitch, whereas Dark Souls 2 was a pain in the ass.

Not like there is much worth playing these days anyway.
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>>55667935
You mean WoW?
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>>55667986
That's what I said.
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>Implying that i would ever use the very definition of 'Windows application' that is Steam on GNU/Linux

>wine
>games
After dwelling in disappointment for few years when Loki went under before releasing Deus ex, i've played the winnie version with wine and it just works.
Hearts of Iron 2 works well too. As does OFP. SHOC works very well when using R1 renderer, but alas, i'd rather use the dx9 renderer and that gives about 30% performance compared to playing on winnie.
Every else worthwhile has native version.
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>>55666756
The only game I use wine for is touhou. It works for all the games except for ULiL
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>>55667903
>I don't blame you. If I didn't know how to properly secure my Windows, I'd probably use a Linux distro too.
Oh I knew how to secure it just fine. I just didn't trust Microsoft to not backdoor it. And since you can't see into your kernel's source code, you can't possibly know if they have or not.
Also, I'm a programmer and it's just far easier and nicer on Linux.
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>>55668050
>touhou
Isn't that an animes?
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>>55668095
Dude wat
2hu is some bullet hell shit that some autists like
It probably is an anime also
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wine port to windows 10 when?
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>>55666756
Only WoW.

On the D3D9 renderer, the game runs well and without any graphical issues.
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Wine is garbage, to be perfectly blunt.
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Frankly, Wine is great.
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>>55667720
At least we get to learn some new stuff while try to make the game/games getting to work, in my case it did.
While you get dumber everyday by going on a easy life.
I bet you never played darksouls, because its too hard for you.

Windows Users Playstyle: Easy Mode
GNU/Linux Users Playstyle: Hard Mode
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>>55667783
they even have a reverse engineering effort going on called xash

but to answer your question black mesa is a source mod
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dual boot faggots. linux is not for gaming
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>>55668359
Linux is perfectly fine for gaming, the reason why game companies are whores for direct x is because microdick pays them to be.
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have you heard of dual booting , jesus fucking linux autists
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>>55668359
>>55668493
>i dual boot therefore everyone should dual boot
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>>55666756
Just duel boot if you need any of that windows crap.
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>>55668340
Yes. Using gentoo is like an adventure game by itself.
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>>55667903
>It feels good knowing what's going on in my system
Cucks say the darndest things
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>>55668290
fuck off back to the dark souls thread, faggot
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>>55666756
get winetricks don't use shity playonlounix , use wine staging with CSMT 's patch, use regkey for enable some stuff (shader5 ect ...) https://wiki.winehq.org/Useful_Registry_Keys
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>>55666871

KVM is scrubby shit

you're a fucking retard if you can't figure out why xen is superior
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>>55669839
All good feature in xen come from kvm ....
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>>55669815
playonlinux uses wine
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>>55666756
>he's a grown man who plays video gaymes
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Now that cs 1.6 has native linux client, no need for wine anymore.
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>>55670382
actually, i'm a girl
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>>55667919
Wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
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I used to use it for Diablo 3 but the seasons started to suck so I only use Steam on Linux now.
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If I can't play Skyrim on Linux, why even bother?
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>>55670424
Why bother playing Skyrim?
I wouldn't.
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>>55670442
I would.

And here we are.

I've started out playing Ark though, and that shit is addictive. I'll probably burn out soon enough and play something else though.
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>>55667292
Because of less effects you freetard
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>>55670502
framerate > visual effects
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>>55666756
> hating win on internet
> then install shitty win emulator coz linux dont have software
lol
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>>55670921
Then why not just set everything to LOW while you're at it, pleb?
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>>55670921
>framerate > visual effects
CSGOtard detected
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>>55671136
he already did, it wouldn't go above 30 in wine otherwise
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>>55671155
oh fug muh sides

Don't know why but they fucking burst right now.
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>>55666756
Stop being a "only one OS" faggot. Just use Windows if you want to play games, and Linux for everything else.
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I make a habit of only buying games that can run on free software and aren't closed source.

>Id Tech Engines
>Serious Engine
>Darkplaces
>Aleph One
>Eduke32
>Openmw
>Nexuiz
>Xonotic
>Saurbraten
>dosbox
I'm fine with it.
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>>55668340
>Linux fags actually justify their shit OS like this

"While you drive 2 miles to work I WALK! Stay mad getting fatter and fatter everyday carcuck. I hope you remembered to pay you insurance! Never mind the fact that I had to forego hours of sleep just so I could wake up on time to WALK to work!"
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>>55670400
>Female
>Browses 4chan
>Linux
>Vidya

Holy fuck kys immediately.
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>>55671244
don't forget emulators

you pretty much an infinite amount of games
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>>55666756

I've had a lot of experience with wine in the past... some advice of mine might be a bit out of date because it's been a while since I played video games regularly, but here we go.

1. don't fucking use it with ubuntu
in fact just don't play games under ubuntu at all... outdated software is outdated software. Wine Is Not an Exception (see what I did there?)

2. if you want to use it make sure your gpu is somewhat up to the task of running the game to begin with
if you have a shitty gpu and manage to run any game at all then colour me suprised
running through wine can make your game performance go to anywhere from 70-110% of it's original framerate

3. don't expect to run games on a direct X version that has just been released

4. run in a virtual desktop if you use a non-windows-like window manager (i3 anyone?)

5. selinux will always cause issues even if you set it to permissive

6. default configuration works just fine for the most part, but some games just won't work with it. in these cases you can fuck about a bit and likely get it working anyway... unless you're unlucky (I never had an issue)


wine can be a pain though if you're not used to it. don't expect a no-effort workaround for the fact that you're using a non-binary-compatible o.s.
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>>55666756
i only play cs:go anon :^)
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>>55674666
>Using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>55669839
Is this 5 years ago?
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>>55674306

Yeah, Ubuntu packages something like wine 1.6, which is abysmally old.

This is probably the main reason why normies really hate wine, because they're probably using Ubuntu's version.

And holy shit fuck selinux, NSA trash do not use on personal desktop systems.
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>2016
>not dual booting
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>>55670424
Skyrim works fine with wine. Most dx9 titles work with minimal tweaking.
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I'm thinking of going back to GNU/Linux, but do Blizzard games work in wine with AMD free driver? This is the only thing keeping me on windows.
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>>55666756
Mostly just THUG Pro in Wine. Other than that, haven't really bothered with other games because they A:) have a Linux port, or B:) have an open-source implementation of the engine (i.e. OpenRCT2).
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>>55666756
Hero's of WoW (Private server of World of Warcraft)
Insanity FlyFF (Private server of FlyFF)
^above you can just extract folders and run with WINE. No problems so far.

Then on PlayonLinux:
NFSU2
NFSHP2
NFSMW

Also emulators like Snes9x and Mupen64plus.
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>>55670415
But anon, that's WINAE.
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use wine-staging for csmt and vaapi. its daunting at first but once you get the hang of knowing what a program needs to run you can go from a fresh install of linux to gaming in less than 30 mins if youre not retarded.
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WINE is a great name, but I have other suggestions for this program to be labeled, such as:
AINE- AINE is not an Emulator
BINE- BINE is not an Emulator
CINE- CINE is not an Emulator
DINE- DINE is not an Emulator
EINE- EINE is not an Emulator
FINE- FINE is not an Emulator
GINE- GINE is not an Emulator
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I use Steam+Wine with PlayOnLinux for the half of my games that don't have Linux versions.

I mostly play grand strategy and misc. other strategy games. Anything I've tried from Paradox Interactive works well, as does Civ5, Banished, Mount&Blade Warband, and the later Stronghold games.

They're easy to set up with PoL, too. Wouldn't take me more than half an hour to set up most games.

Basically, any newish game released by a reasonably big publisher, I don't generally look up to see if it works on Wine, I just buy it and see, because it most likely does. Even if a game isn't made for Linux, they're often still beta tested under Wine anyway, and any major issues ironed out.
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>>55672537
There is no OS that is not shit in some regard.
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>>55666788
Damn I wish /v/ermin would just leave this board and never come back again.

WINE is not a virtual machine.
It's a compatibility layer that translates windows calls to linux kernel calls so that windows specific libraries could work.

And the whole translation is the reason behind the performance drops.
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Haven't used Wine in like 7 years. How much progress has been going on? I remember only a few normie games worked with it.
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>>55677380

But then it would be an initialism instead of a proper anagram.

>>55678140

Translating Win API calls isn't really that slow. Something like CreateProcess() is really just a fork() and exec() of Wine...

Translating Direct 3D to OpenGL isn't exactly the fastest shit out there though.
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>Single player games
>Any recent multiplayer game
>good
Linux has:
Chess
Quake 3 CPMA
TF2
Melee (and any other gamecube/wii game)
What more do you need?
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>>55666756
I use Wine with games like CaveStory and Shogo: Mobile Armor Division and other Win98/XP games. So far it works perfectly, although there's the occasional glitch which usually doesn't affect gameplay in any significant way. So, I'm loving it really
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>>55666756
I've played eve online and wow very successfully without any major wizardry
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>>55667720
Jokes on you, all the games I enjoy have Linux clients!
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civ5 runs great under wine. yes, i'm aware there is a linux version, but i couldn't get it to run. typical.
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I have made a script for wine and my japanese porngames. It creates a wineprefix in a folder where you put the script file with some default tweaks like sandboxing, disabling winemenubuilder and setting up the environment with jap utf-8. It also downloads gm.sf2 and msgothic.ttc and sets them up to use with fluidsynth. It also has a switch to convert all midis to ogg because some newer rpgmaker shit won't play midi. It can create proper launcher desktop files too and has a batchmode for that. It's rough around the edges sometimes but it's extremely useful to quickly setup a wineprefix and portable since it saves a file with all information from batchmode for later use.

I also use it for normal games as a starter.

It was more or less an exercise to learn bash.
I'm thinking of porting that beast to fish because it has some cool progressbars and spinners.
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>>55679942
Have fun playing Valve's finest cashgrabs.
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>>55678563
great taste in games
i'll excuse melee
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It works quite well on wine-staging, and Linux supports my 420 out of the box (I think since 4.0,)
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>>55666756
Older games run smoothly with WINE.
Never bothered with new games.
Except for stardew valley and Life is Strange and both run good enough.
Other VNs require some fiddling around though.
I use POL instead, I can control each and every wine prefix and prevent malware from infecting my system.
What I do really want is working Adobe PS
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>>55680805
You can make new prefixes easily even with pure wine.
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>>55678563
I need Hardwar, Alpha Centauri (the Linux version is fucked and the Windows one has a ton of unofficial patches out), Heavy Gear 1/2, Oblivion, and a ton of Windows GOG shit that I pirated that didn't have a Linux port
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>>55681295
You can see if they will run on wine on wineHQ.
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>>55680805
Well it's not only WINE what matters your hardware as well.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31665
See this for example.
If you have Intel GPU LiS won't run.
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>>55666756
Played Fallout 1 on a Mac. Absolute garbage
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>>55681789
Tried to run fallout2 thru playonlinux. total shitstorm. wine noob, though, since i can always boot back into win7
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If your game won't run on linux or easily through wine then just go without. Why are going through the shit of dual booting or even letting your choice of OS be dictated by gaming, an unproductive time wasting activity? Seems like a waste of time to me. I can understand if it's actual usefull shit you need to run like photoshop. But video games?

Just be this guy >>55671244
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>>55680286
Gog
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>>55667203
Ptsss... Anon.
Use Opsu (the open source, Linux compatible osu! client)
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