AMADEAD

>>55665516
Is she finally kill?

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IT'S OVER GUYS, AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT!

>>55665516
>>55665613
>>55665635
>people that do not understand basic numbers

>480 matches 1060 in most benchmarks while absolutely skullfucking it in DX12
>480 is only going to get better with time

AMDFAGS BTFO

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I DONT FUCKING UNDERSTAND

ARE RETAILERS BRIBED BY NVIDIA TO JACK UP PRICES OF AMD CARDS?


$306 - Rx480 Reference
$276 - Zotac 1060

I guess its an easy Nvidia choice for me

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>>55665705
At 1080p, 1060 wins:
Hitman by 7.9%
Tomb Raider by 22%

480 wins:
Ashes by 4.9%
Total War by 0.3%

1060 wins by 6% on average. Pretty good considering 3 of the 4 games are AMD sponsored.

>>55665745
>>55665635
>>55665705

> Using a piece of technology to game

>>>/v/

How do these perform in a wrok based scenario? Which is better for graphical rendering?

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>>55665516
Nice meme, it's time for you to press F lad.

>>55665883
>AMD gimp game
>relevant

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>>55665970

>>55665801
These are consumer cards, retard

>>55665635
>show stutter charts for 480
It's like you're sneakily an nvidiashill

>>55665705
Another tripfag to add to the filter list, thank you.

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>mfw dx12

>>55666021
Sounds like youre on the wrong board friend :^)

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>>55665970
>DX12
>Vulkan
>not relevant

You seemed to ignore the important aspects of paying your respects.

>>55666071
>burnt mobos and laughable frametimes
Oh silly Amdumbs stop shilling your inferior garbage at every price point.

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>>55666127
Source? Also can you give source on the thousands of burnt motherboards GTX 960 graphics cards have cause?

>>55666156
>posting this old as shitfuck fud
>Not knowing the difference between voltage spikes and overcurrenting.
Voltage spikes don' burn mobos, over the rating constant current going through the PCI-E slot creates heat and ultimately destroys motherboards. Don't OC your reference cards unless you're waiting for a toasted mobo.

>>55665516
I love you AMD, please don't die!

>>55666156
>average 50 watts
>average 80 watts
>Which one will create enough heat to burn down a 75 w rated slot?
Hmmm I wonder.

>>55666242
>>55666265
Source: my ass

>>55666265
Why can't you people grasp that passing that rating wont produce smoke and fire?

>>55666287
>my ass
>the literal graphs show the average
>2016 still pretending AMD doesn't have an overcurrenting problem when they literally released a driver fix to fix the non-problem

kys pajeet

>>55665684
it's a fucking line graph. everything is clearly labeled.

if you're not seeing the 1060 with constant lower framerates, huge dips below 60fps, and just generally losing hard, you are a fucking idiot.

>>55666292
>Won't produce smoke and fire?
>It's past the rating at stock speeds
>There will be retards who buy two and overclock
Just wait till it happens. It's coming soon.

>>55666265
the PCIe spec is 75w, that's not what the slots are rated for, not even close. even cheap asrock mobos can handle much, much more than that. and the problem is FUD to begin with.

I'd tell you to find another angle but there is none. the 1060 is a gimped half-assed piece of shit which is to be expected from nvidia.

>>55666368
the PCI-E spec is 5.5A on the 12V rail = 66w. AMD is going over 6A and up to 9A on overclock.
Enjoy your melted Mobo.

>>55666310
I said this before.
Do you think the 75W gets dissipated as heat on the slot?

>>55666389
Not pcie spec but SIG spec, learn the difference.

>>55666368
>>55666292
>amdrones pretend that pcie slot deaths didn't happen
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410

>>55666410
>gets dissipated as heat on the slot
Who knows? I know there aren't any fans on the slot for sure.

>>55665801
Neither. Nvidia still has a large advantage because of MUH CUDA CORES tho.
Still, nothing compared to real workstation hardware.

>>55666413
>learn the difference
PCI SIG spec for the PCI-E slot if you're going to be a pedant.

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>>55666127
>implying anyone actually reported a burnt motherboard

Nice meme! Now if you could only provide many sources/hard evidence.. lmao

So uhm, is buying a 1070 still worth it or will AMD release something better in the next couple weeks?

>>55666071
Vulkan is literally irrelevant.

>>55666461
See: >>55666071

>>55666459
see
>>55666424
Cue pretending that it's not a common issue
>burnt 3 of his pci-e slots :3 must not be real !

>>55666470
What is that supposed to tell me? How do you know that Vulkan will be relevant immediately? And how long would I have to wait for AMD to bring something better than the 480? Because I sure as hell am not gonna get a Fury X.

>>55666487
Vulkan will never be relevant.
Vega will come out in October at the earliest.
1060 is pretty competitive with 480 even with DX12 (see >>55665745). There is no AMD domination.

>m-muh hitman
>m-muh ashes oft shillgularity
Why are AMD so desperate about these games? Literally nobody plays AoS and you can beat hitman in under 4 hours.

i really really wanted to get the 480, but i will get 1060, because it runs cooler, is less noisy and consumes less power, dont really care for future proofing and DX12, i want to play witcher 3 damn it

>>55666487
Realistically, DX12 won't be any relevant until about 2019/20. Vulkan probably never will (mantle was worth shit as well).

>>55666520
There are 50 million PS4's floating around, game devs aren't simply going to chuck away that install base to appease some amdumbs.

Xbone is already basically running on DX12 anyway and getting nowhere. The new APIs are for the next generation of consoles. So enjoy waiting for Q4 2017 for any large scale adoption.

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>>55666424
Literally any person could jump on the AMD forums and make these claims. Shit source, get something professional you god damn faggot.

>>55666650
Nothing is good enough for drones.

Something professional? Obviously paid off by nvidia.

>>55665883
81 fps out of my gpu, thatll do me. So you say my cards dead?

>buy amd rx 480 8gb reference card
>87C after 20 minutes in watch dogs

is this dangerous?

feels good to be 100% amd though. Nvidia can go suck a dick, their marketing campaigns is on the same level as intel

>>55666699
>being loyal to companies
What a cuck.

>>55666699
use an aftermarket programms like msi afterburner,
I had the same thing with my 1080 blower card.
Used msi and now its fine, you can adjust the fan speeds and settings etc

>>55666690
Maybe at 720p and low settings lmao

Im getting Nvidia for reliability from the get go, with so much Jap games coming out of the market. AMD just got poor compatibility with them sadly

>>55666748
I own a 1080. dont do 720p poorfag

>>55666699
>being a biased cuck
You're the reason this site is shit.

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>>55666766

>>55666306
>he thinks his benchmark actually matter

fuck off /v/ tards that do not understand how a corporation goes bankrupt

>>55665516
DELET THIS

>>55666818
you keep playing games on those shitty settings with low fps anon

>>55666519
>Nintendo supporting Vulkan
>Playstation devs already using Mantle
>Google supporting Vulkan
>EA supporting Vulkan
>Unreal supporting Vulkan
>Unity supporting Vulkan
>Valve supporting Vulkan
>id supporting Vulkan

By device volume, Vulkan will have majority platform share in two years. It will start by becoming the standard for mobile gaming and consoles, then will end up slowly winning against DX12. You really think we're going to be on DX11 and OpenGL for another 10 years? It's the best option for mobile and console in the years to come, and developers are aware of that.

Realistically what we're going to see is Microsoft being a bunch of whiny jackasses and choose to shill DX12 on the new Xbox, and game developers are just going to make their games for Vulkan/DX12 to get compatibility with the entire PC market and consoles. Many devs are already doing OpenGL+DX11 support, why not change to Vulkan+DX12 to remain relevant?

conclusion buy an RX 480 if u only have Doom in ur Library.

else get gtx 1060

AMD subhumans should be gunned down on the street like fucking degenerates they're.

>>55667418
>Implying any modern game besides Doom is worth playing

Well here (Spain) I am hoping the RX480 non-reference releases releases closer to the msrp prices because a decent 1060 is €360 which is a fucking joke given that a decent 1070 is "only" €465.

Amd more like RMA

>>55666021
>IT'S OVER GUYS, AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT!

real subtle

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>>55667418
i never understood this meme. Nvidia is more locked down so wouldn't that have a smaller library of compatible games that come out?

>>55665745
>1060 wins by 6% on average. Pretty good considering 3 of the 4 games are AMD sponsored.

6% gain for a $100 more card is not good by any means.

You guys forgot quickly that nvidia is still cheating in AOTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2b6Nncu6zY

>>55666830
I fully understand how a company goes bankrupt

It's not by releasing extremely successful products that shit on the competition like the RX 480

And even if AMD was as bad as you try to convince yourself they are, they still have other sources of revenue and huge contracts to keep them afloat.

Back to /v/ now summerfag

>>55667647
>1060
$250
>8GB 480
$240

>>55667712
>november 2015

>>55667758
>successful products
They haven't for a few years.

>>55667712
>AOTS
plz die

>>55667831
>sold out everywhere
holy shit delude yourself some more

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>>55667847
>supporting outdated tech that cant into dx12/vulkan without cheating

>>55667859
Having supply issues doesn't denote success.

>>55667859
>nvidia cards sell out
>wow, they probably only had like 2 cards in stock anyway
>amd cards sell out
>MOST SUCCESSFUL CARD EVER
Love this doublethink.

>>55667859
>replying to nvidiatripgoy nr.1

kys

1060
>5-10% more performance in Dx 11 titles (depending on what your favorite shill has said)
>120w tdp

Rx 480
>5-45% in Vulkan Dx 12 titles (depending on what your favorite shill has said)
>150w tdp

prices are pretty much equivalent. But I would say that the Rx 480 gonna stabilize at a lower base point than the 1060 in the near future, 2-3 months down the line.

I'll go with the rx 480. I expect the custom cards to be at a good price point by late August.

>>55667941
>goes by tdp instead of actual power consumption
>thinks rx 480 performs better in dx12 on average (see >>55665745)

>>55667712
>AOTS
who
the fuck
cares

>>55667970
if Adored is my fav AMD shill than the 45% is a valid number. If my fav NV shill is TH's than it's probably -67%

I don't care about your anonymous shilling. I like professional level shilling.

>>55668049
While the DX12 numbers may vary, the power consumption is pretty consistent.

Every single site that measures the power directly from the graphics card finds that RX 480 draws 160-170W on average in games, while 1060's average power draw doesn't exceed its TDP (at stock in video games).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-6.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/952-11/consommation-efficacite-energetique.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/24.html

This is not shilling, but the truth.

>>55667758
where did i say it goes bankrupt. And doing poorly. I was simply pointing out that muh benchmarks irrelevant when what determine the end of company is it's which all /v/ tard forget and spout benchmarks

>>55668049
>45%

It's 45% increase over the gid awful opengl amd drivers. In reality the shift from dx11 to 12 on amd hardware nets about a 10-15% increase as confirmed by the ashes of singularity dev and the hitman dev.

Amds dx11 drivers are seriously lacking but they're godlike compared to their opengl drivers.

AMD will just never win, haha. The Geforce® 1060 is simply the best value choice for those who play it the way it's meant to be played™. Nothing even comes close! With NVIDIA GeForce Experience™, I can enjoy great features such as Shadowplay to record my gaming footage and show off my skills to others with ease. Order your's today, you won't regret it!

>>55668144
nvidiot shill.txt

>>55668335
Shadowplay is brilliant though. I don't know why amd fanboys hate it so much. Pretty much every youtuber that isn't biased towards either company says shadowplay is brilliant for what it offers. I personally love using it because it means I don't have to deal with a shitty obs studio interface and the shadowplay interface is just so much easier to navigate.

>>55667889
>implying the 480 has the same yields as a die 50% larger than it
kys.

>>55668532
>Built on the same 16nm FinFET process as its Pascal brethren, GP106 is a 4.4 billion transistor part with a die size of just 200mm2.

>So far we know there will be at least two GPUs based on the Polaris 10 die, the biggest of which is the 2304 Steam Processor-enabled Radeon RX 480. The die measures just 232mm2.

APOLOGIZE

Good riddance. AMD is such an awful company.

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>mfw I've invested in amd stocks and if I sell them now I can buy a GTX 1060 for free

>>55668945
>buy something for free
Scandihoovian economics, everyone

>>55665516
Amadaposting is cancer.

>>55668756
>obviously talking about GP104
are you fucking retarded?

>>55667889
Difference:

Nvidia has yield issues
AMD does not

Supply of AMD cards is greater than nvidia, but are still selling like hotcakes.

And the fact the 8GB 480 was sold as 4GB 480's for $200 is evidence that AMD can cut prices by quite a bit and still make a profit on the 480. I fully expect this to happen once AMD stops selling out of stock - they'll let the AIB's get in on the gravy train, and then once it looks like the initial rush is dying down they'll drop prices by $40 and completely BTFO nvidia's 1060 offering, which will likely still be unavailable and out of stock except at scalper prices.

It'll literally be a choice of $200 8GB 480 vs $400 6GB 1060.

Everything we've been seeing the past couple weeks has been an incredible amount of nvidia shilling because they know they got fucked in the ass by AMD on this one and went all out on marketing jew tactics out of desperation.

>>55669249
>Nvidia has yield issues
>AMD does not
Now you're engaging in circular reasoning to explain your doublethink.

>>55669249
Uhh you are actually retarded.

The 8GB 480 is $240 and the 6GB 1060 is $250

>>55666253
AMD is dead.

>>55669392
The 8GB 480 was literally being sold at $200 as a 4GB model m8

All they did was disable 4GB's of memory, which you can undo with a bios flash.

There is no actual 4GB model - they are all 8GB's and AMD has no manufacturing process for the 4GB's besides flashing the 8GB model to disable the memory.

They obviously feel like they can make a good profit even at $200 with the 8GB version, and in a year I'd be willing to bet prices drop further, possibly as far as $170 or even $150.

Basically, they're able to BTFO nvidia where it matters the most: Price

While nvidia is trying to sell 1060's at $350 or $400, AMD will selling at $200 or lower.

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>>55669465
Uhh the 1060 is selling for $249 right now

>>55669480
>back order

>>55669480
Nice try shill, but those are all on back-order, which you conveniently left out by cropping the image.

>>55669493
Back order means you can literally reserve it for that price and it comes in within 3-5 days.

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>>55669465
The 1060 is actually the better value card, pic related.

>>55669513
>3-5 days
kek

>>55669297
It's not circular reasoning; it's well known TSMC has yield issues right now that are causing supply problems for the entire 10xx series. (Contrary to what nvidia vehemently claims)

It'll be more and more obvious as time goes on - nvidia supply issues will remain even as the 480 begins to stay stocked.

Nvidia shills and idiot fanboys will then use this to claim that AMD cards aren't being bought and AMD has been "BTFO" again, but the reality will be that nvidia isn't able to keep up with the market demand while AMD is.

Once nvidia's supply finally starts to catch up to demand, AMD will price drop like a rock on them. Maybe even before then.

I fully expect $200 8GB 480's within the next 5 months.

>>55669542
Nvidia actually has great supply, while AMD can barely even afford to make chips because they're practically bankrupt

>>55669542
>it's well known TSMC has yield issues right now that are causing supply problems for the entire 10xx series.
[citation needed]

>>55669520
Another shill picture.

Not shown: 4GB 480 for $200
And the picture uses the MSRP for the 1060 - $250, which you cannot actually buy anywhere.

A shill pic trying to compare apples and oranges specifically to put nvidia in a good light.

This is why so many people don't like you slimy nvidia fucks. You can't help yourselves from the blatant non-stop shilling, FUD, misrepresentation, and outright lies. Over and over again you do it, and rather than bringing people towards nvidida you're pushing people away.

Nobody wants more fucking gameworks cancer. Nvidia can't even develop new technologies to push the field, content to sit back on their laurels with better dx11 performance over AMD instead. And now that's fucking them in the ass as vulkan/dx12 come out.

AMD played a 4d chess move on nvidia this gen and the shill tactics you're using won't work for much longer.

>>55669589
Uhh that's a benchmark directly from techpowerup, a very reputable review site.

>>55665883
looks like I won't be upgrading my R9 380x anytime soon.

>>55669249
>nvidia has yield issues

No they do not.

can anyone actually post a photo of them owning a retail aib 1060 and not a review card
>it's sold out amd btfo!
yet nobody has one

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>Watch adoredTVs new video
>maximum damage control and butthurt
>w-why are they t-testing these really popular games like witcher, fallout and rottr
>t-they should only test doom vulkan o-only

Just as I expected. The amdrone butthurt is fucking glorious.

>>55669606
>techpowerup, a very reputable review site.
Nvidiots, everybody!

>>55669831
>rottr
>popular games

also they tested doom on opengl when they clearly had the option to use vulkan.

where do i sign up to get paid off by nvidia too? can you hook me up with a shilling job?

>>55669844
Uhh techpowerup is one of the best review sites out there.

>>55669854
>>>/tumblr/
I bet you're very popular there, shill.

>>55669781
It just came out yesterday.

Here's a bunch of people talking about how it just shipped out: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4ts69f/has_anyones_1060_fe_shipped/

>>55669893
>reddit
get out, cancer.

>>55669888
Techpowerup is very well respected, not sure why you are even mentioning tumblr

>>55668756
there is no gp106 nvidia doesnt have enough money to outbid quallcomm or apple to open another production line

and even if they had it would be stupid to even consider open one so early

its binning at this stage

>>55669905
Kindly do the needful pajeet.

>>55669900
Sorry I hurt your feelings.

>>55669915
>there is no gp106

You are actually a retard.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gp106

>>55669905
tpu lost its respect the moment they decide to just use 99% of gameworks games and one or maybe 2 non gameworks games...
that is not a bench that is a proper shill

>>55669846
>it's wrong because they didn't use the setting which heavily favours amd
>it's wrong to keep benchmarks consistent over a course of multiple gpu reviews for comparison

Amdrones everyone.

>>55669951
its a cut down version of a cut down version moron nvidia cant open another production line on a fab that is already running 10 lines

>>55669954
Uhh they use normal games just like everyone else.

>>55669966
Nope it's literally just a GP106

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>>55665516

Apologize

>>55668503
>Shadowplay is brilliant
>>>/v/
OBS offers the same performance with Nvidia NVENC as the encoder along with not being bundled with drivers.
>just so much easier to navigate
You probably use stock iOS.

>>55666682
just like your comment, Isaac.

>>55670039
yeah but obs can't do the same kind of constant recording, push-button and get the past 5 minutes thing that shadowplay can

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Week of an RX 480 owner:

Day 1: Play Hitman
Day 2: Play Doom
Day 3: Realize that you ran out of games
Day 4: Replay Hitman
Day 5: Replay Doom
Day 6: Replay Hitman again
Day 7: Replay Doom again

>>55670118
Lmao

>>55670118

Have fun playing yesterday's games while the future belongs to AMD. Nvidia will be shitting itself in a year's time.

>>55670169
More like Nvidia will just continue its completely dominating lead, while AMD goes bankrupt.

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>>55670194

Yeah, no. That ain't gonna happen while the consoles solely use AMD hardware. It just so happens gaming will be optimized to run better using AMD architecture also. Win win, Novidya fags.

>>55670118
Do you buy a graphics card just to read the in game fps counter?

>>55670300
>more optimized to use AMD hardware

TOP KEK

see >>55670118

>>55670102
What are you smoking? Replay buffer is right there in the settings in OBS Classic. Basically only reason to currently use OBS Studio is if you want multiple audio tracks.

>>55670169
Here we have an RX 480 owner on his second week. He has gotten tired of replaying the same two games over and over again, so he decided to just stop playing video games. Instead, he goes on /g/ and talks about how AMD will certainly dominate after a few years, posts Doom Vulkan benchmarks in every single relevant thread he can find, and makes sure to call anyone who says anything negative about AMD a shill. He will only take a break from posting when Vulkan support is released to a game that came out months ago, then opens his steam client and looks at the game he has already beaten and uninstalled, only to close his steam client again. He then comes back to /g/ to post benchmarks of how his RX 480 performs so well with Vulkan.

>>55670118
Riiiight, because owning an RX 480 doesn't mean I can play all my other games, right? (owned a HD 7850 for years, was a trooper until it gave out last week.)

Planetside 2 is fukken beautiful on this card, fuck the haters.

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>>55670300
Check AMD's balance sheet

They are losing hundreds of millions every year, sometimes over a billion in losses.

The company is in a nose dive with no way to get out.

>>55670303
RX 480 owners feel intense buyers remorse any time they try to play a game where GTX 1060 performs better than RX 480.

It's a very depressing illness.

>>55670319
>TOP KEK

see >>55670169

>>55670331

I don't own an RX 480. I have an nvidia 8800gt. What now, fag?

>>55670372
>yesterday's games are today's games

AMDtard logic everyone

>>55670388
Your poverty has caused you to empathize with fellow poor people (RX 480 owners), and you've become a victim of their brainwashing. I'm sorry.

>>55670359
Well sure. Unless they're eyeing up any Vulkan titles or DirectX 12 for that matter

>>55670403

I own an nvidia

>>55670359
Lol

I wonder how many RX 480 owners returned their card yesterday when the 1060 reviews came out.

>>55670388
>I have an nvidia 8800gt

Not sure if poor or stupid...

>>55670441

I don't play games as often as you clearly do, plus, I am an adult with different family priorities. I know you feel superior from your basement, but, come on son. You didn't even bother with a rebuttal, only some lame Apple-logic = pOOrFAg! lolz!!11

Ahh, consumer gaymur whores. The gift that keeps giving.

I have a 1080p/144 Hz monitor and I want to upgrade from my R9 380 to another AMD card but they have nothing worthwhile.

Wish I snagged that $299 Air Fury from Newegg before it sold out. Oh well, I don't mind waiting for AMD because I know they have the superior technology for the future.

I'm not a cuck so I won't buy Nvidia. Haven't owned one of their shitty cards since the Ti 4600.

>>55670466

Ad hominem plus false dichotomy in one short post. I'd bet George Bush would whoop you in a battle of IQ.

>>55670446
Same here

won't be soon, though

It's not even the performance that's the deciding factor - the difference between the 480 and 1060 is marginal

No, it's the nonstop nvidia shilling and anti-amd FUD I keep seeing here, plus the goyworks, plus nvidia handicapping their old cards (or I guess it's just that they stop bothering to update their drivers).

Anyways, a shitty underhanded company like nvidia isn't worth my money or time. I'm literally disgusted with them at this point.

>>55670329
Fuck that. Shadowplay is so much easier to use and requires no effort to use. I've used obs and it's shit. There's like 50 different settings to the the exact same thing I can do on shadowplay by adjusting 2 sliders.

Anyone with basic computer knowledge knows AMD has created more innovation than Intel and invidia, and then open source it and then make it affordable for people to enjoy. I just don't understand you people

>>55670479
So basically you're poor

>>55670503
Cheers, mate

>>55670479
Yet you have time to come to shitposting threads to shitpost. Talk about priorities.

>>55670495
I don't think you know what an ad hom is. He didn't even try to address any argument of yours, let alone try to dismiss it. Pretty hard to ad hom without even addressing an argument.

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>>55670517
>>55670531

Look how mad these kids get. Lets all laugh. Hahahaha

>>55670507
t. amd marketer

>>55670531

Don't quit kindergarten just yet.

>>55670517
Hey kiddo, we. Any all have mom's like yours who sucks cock all day everyday in the back of shady alleys so you can afford your fps'. I know you want to help your poor semen filled mom, but you have to start charging for all those cocks that you suck. Okay, kiddo? Good talk.

>>55670544
Sorry about your poverty.

>>55670349
balance sheet is one thing, revenue is another.

AMD's net worth went down a shitload when they divested their fabricating branch (which is now globalfoundries), and that didn't necessarily mean they were doing terrible at the time. focusing on those numbers alone without looking at the big picture is confirmation bias/armchair economics.

however if you look at quarterly revenue, shit does not look good at all. they're showing large operating losses each quarter. their market share is also down the shitter.

this could be explained by the fact that they've been in full blown R&D mode with not much to sell for the past 3-4 years. if Zen and Vega fail they might be truly fucked for good.

>>55670565
Thanks for the double reply.

>>55670531
>Yet you have time to come to shitposting threads to shitpost. Talk about priorities.

>i don't like what you say so i'll pretend you have no priorities just to make you feel bad

Keep goin' junior.

>>55670563
No, just somebody who knows the history of computer technology. It a literally part of computer hardware 101.

>>55670582
>if Zen and Vega fail they might be truly fucked for good.

AMD is truly fucked. They are losing hundreds of millions, there is no chance for them to get out. I give them 4 years before it's all over.

>>55670575

Thanks. Do keep going though.

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>>55670600
AMD is a company of thieves.

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>>55665635
>Nvidiots still think that is (or try to push it as) a frame time stutter chart

>>55670583

No probs Mohammad.

>>55670613
Nowhere to go really, you'll be poor forever.

>>55670591
Third reply from the same person? You just keep on giving.

>>55670629

News to me princess. Gimme some more.

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>>55670620
Wtf is that? Source?

>>55670635

I aim to please. Keep counting them if you can, retard.

>>55666482
>That one single board in that infamous thread
>Posting this thread over and over again as if this is more than just that one board
Yes, I know it's annoying when you think you've got a really good "gotcha", but then find out you don't, but just get over it already.

>>55670642
Wow you're a faggot too, this just keeps getting better.

>>55670600
If you knew their history you'd know that their retarded management thought intel will stay on netburst forever. They got too full of themselves circa 2006 and faildozer was the result.

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>>55670620

>>55670683

We're all faggots anon. You're just more of a filthy faggot that stinks of smegma. I hope this is as good for you as it is for me. Please, do continue.

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>>55670503
>No, it's the nonstop nvidia shilling and anti-amd FUD I keep seeing here
It's the opposite for me. AMD owner here.

Pic describes /g/ pretty well too.

>>55670696
Nope, you're the faggot.

>>55670708

But, you're the filthy faggot. Remember 20 seconds ago?

>>55670654
It's from the age old story "is your son a computer hacker?" which is poking fun at those "oh god what is a computer" kinds of parents.

>>55670603
more armchair economics

fun fact; VIA is still in business and still sells x86 CPUs and various controllers

AMD might go the same way, but they're not going to close doors. they're going to downsize, divest and do whatever it takes to stay afloat. they could very well leave the x86 or discrete GPU businesses or both and auction off some of their highly valuable IP.

hell, they may even get bought out.

but you seem to think they're headed towards some abstract state of "having zero assets or revenue", which is retarded.

>>55670697
Yeah that pic describes it very well.

It's just the attitude of a losing team with no real results to back them up.

AMD and their fans know they are basically dead already, so they have to desperately try every trick in the book to appear to still be viable.

Luckily this whole charade will be over in a few years when AMD is gone.

>>55670697
look, a canned response

The fact you have an image to shill a pro-nvidia viewpoint for such specific situations as someone saying they're sick of nvidia's shilling gives you away mr. """"""amd owner""""""

same thing as we see in the rest of the thread: The exact same shilling images posted over and over again, thread after thread.

>>55670730
Sorry you're still the faggot.

AMD?

More like AMDone

>>55670742
I agree, they will likely sell off their losing divisions, which is their entire desktop GPU & CPU business.

Rumor is they will sell their GPU business to Intel, then maybe just kill off their CPU business altogether.

>>55670751

I hope you are sorry, filthy faggot. You should take what's called a "shower".

>>55670746
I'm not sure if this post is supposed to be a joke or not.

If not, you perfectly fit the description of the picture:
>it's mostly ... accusations of conspiracy

>>55670782
Goddamn you're a faggot

>>55670697
Amd shills are fucking everywhere it's actually impossible to have a decent discussion without them shilling. Check all the youtube videos of 1060 reviews and the top comments will be some assmad amdrone shilling about muh async or gameworks. It's actually funny because nvidia is said to have just under 80% market share and that would equate to 8/10 gamers owning nvidia over amd yet all you see shilling is amd owners. When people say amd owners are neet basement dwelling virgins it's actually true. They sit all day shilling for amd in youtube comments and forums when actual people who play games own nvidia and are too busy playing games to shill. This can be easily seen in that straw poll some guy did here like 6 months ago where the majority of people on /g/ (aka the neckbeards) had amd yet the majority of people on /v/ (the people who play games or at least discuss them) had nvidia. Amd fans are truly sad people.

>>55670797
It's just like the Apple fanbase.

Apple has only 10% market share, but their fans are ridiculously vocal, to the point where they will scream and shout about how everything Apple is the best.

What card should I get to play on 1440x900 for the next two years?
Considerations:
- no audible coil whine
- decent DX11 performance on a low-end i5
- 230€ max
- if possible, lowish tdp
- used is ok

>>55670790

lol breh, I'm only playin'. Gimme a sec to grab another beer, damn faggot you.

>>55670743
>Luckily this whole charade will be over in a few years when AMD is gone.
AMD going away is not going to serve anyone except maybe Nvidia's stockholders. Remember how being able to OC became something you had to pay extra for and how prices shot up after AMD left the high end CPU space? Because that's what we're looking at in the GPU space if AMD goes belly up and nobody keeps their graphics division running.

>>55665745
1060 is only better in tomb raider because it is a shit game. In all other games rx 480 is better. Oh and please read your benchmarks again, you failed to parse them in your brain nvidiot.

>>55670838
Post the frame rates that 1060 and 480 get at 1080p.

>>55670838
>1060 is only better in tomb raider

Oh really? See >>55670118

>>55670764
what did we say about armchair economics? they're at he end of a massive R&D push. their CPU division hasn't had a marketable product since 2012 (and that's generous). It's not unusual to be operating on a loss given the circumstances and the fact that AMD is still pretty massive.

we will know by the start of 2017 whether they can become commercially viable again. until then, it's pure speculation, and in your case, not of the very astute kind.

>Rumor is they will sell their GPU business to Intel
why the fuck would Intel buy that? if they wanted to get into the discrete GPU business, they would build upon their existing tech.

>then maybe just kill off their CPU business altogether.
and have another antitrust situation on their hand. jesus, you don't know anything about economy.

>>55670813
Sounds like that would be about RX470 level. Have a look at benchmarks once it releases.

I'm buying an RX 480 because I am also buying a Freesync monitor which is 200 cheaper than Gsync. I also play only the latest AAA titles. Also the non-ref partners I prefer are more expensive if I buy the 1060. This is why I chose the Nitro+ as I have experience with Sapphire products and trust them to deliver on quality and performance. It is £249 as opposed to the 299 MSI 1060 I was considering. That is a £50 price difference for marginal gains on current DX11 titles with the 1060.

The GTX 1060 is a great midrange card based on those benchmarks. But I have other factors to consider other than overall fps. Power usage is not of any relevance to me either. The difference comes down to a few £ (if that) a year if playing regularly for a few hours a day.

I will probably sell it on again later when Vega is out and see what they have to offer and what Nvidia does to compete with it.

Base your buying decisions on other factors than raw fps on day one of launch people. If you want to play the most games at the higher fps then by all means buy the GTX 1060. It's not like it breaks the bank for most people so upgrading in a year or two and selling it on isn't really such a big issue for most with a 'decent' wage (I.E. not on the breadline minimum pay).

To insult one another over their purchasing decisions is just childish. Make your own minds up what is best for you and stop pissing on others just because it feeds your churlish obsession with trolling and memes.

But then i am on 4chan replying to this thread so...

>>55670813
>1440x900 for the next two years
Basically anything works.

>>55670813
used 970 or RX 480

>>55670892
so butthurt he needs to reply to me
that damage control
rx 480 is better
amd for love, amd for life

>>55670894
Mark my words, AMD will be a completely different company or even nonexistent within 5 years. They cannot survive with the failures they are having.

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I am actually torn.

Buy AMD and support a helluva more open and friendly stance towards Linux and standards etc. but, end up with half-assed drivers etc... or

...buy Nvidia and get superior DX11 performance, power usage etc. at the expense of more closed and hostile attitude towards Linux and standards in general.

I want to support AMD for the stance they take towards making standards more open, I hate the way Nvidia uses shady tactics and closed, proprietary Apple-tactics. But, what good is buying hardware only for it to have shitty drivers?

/endblog

>>55670925
are you trying to convince me or yourself

>>55670922
Damage control? Those are literally benchmarks showing how the 1060 is clearly better than the 480 in almost every single game.

>>55670932
Just stating facts.

>>55670938
>1060 is clearly better than the 480 in almost every single game

*DX11 game, i.e. old

why is AMD so shit?

they are literally that kid who gets last in every race at school

>>55670953
those are some /pol/ tier facts mate

>>55670897
Any idea at all how long until that releases?

>>55670907
I considered getting a used R9, but the reportedly high CPU driver overhead on AMD cards made me shy away from that, my 4460 isn't a huge powerhouse.

>>55670908
Got a 970 on sale but it had awful coil whine so I returned it.
Currently there are only 8GB RX480's for sale in my country and those are outside of my budget. No idea when the 4GB batches will come in. Plus, still skeptical about driver overhead, which won't be a problem in DX12 but a lot of the games I play are in DX11.

>>55670906
>msi 1060

There is no reason to have such a powerful cooler on a 1060. Even the stock cooler keeps it in the low 70's so any aftermarket will keep it even lower. Jayztwocents tested an evga single fan one and it was in the 60s. Save money and get the cheapest aib you can get which right now is the 1060 on ocuk

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1060-compact-x1-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-06b-in.html

It's on pre order because it's not out yet but I assume it'll be released within a week or two.

>>55670979
Screenshot my post and come back in 5 years, you know I'm right.

>>55670957
Nobody uses DX12 or Vulkan
by the time those become more common Nvidia will have a new GPU that'll destroy AMD in DX12/Vulkan performance, and fanboys whine "b-but just wait a bit more for AMD to be good!"

> 480 4gb recommended price by AMD: 199$
> 480 4gb price from vendors: 249$
> 1060 recommended price by nVidia: 249$
> 1060 price from vendors: 249$
Nice bribing.

>>55671036
Meanwhile in real life...

>>55670785
>conspiracy

lol, are we even browsing the same board? The shilling's so fucking obvious, literally non-stop anti-AMD threads being shitposted on the front page, every single day since the 480 launched and even before it did

but nooooooo it's AMD doing the shilling

>>55671036
Nvidia just basically waited for AMD to fuck up, then released the perfect answer.

Can someone explain DX12 and why i should care?

I thought that was a W10 only thing

>>55671087
vulkan

>>55665516
> 1060 price from vendors: 249$
goodluck.jpg
I have yet to see one below $300

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>>55669831
>>55669959
>AMD benefits from Vulkan
>Nvidia benefits from Vulkan
>hurr lol lets use openGL

>>55671102
Uhh there are literally a bunch of them for $249 right on new egg:

http://www.newegg.com/VGA/EventSaleStore/ID-1170

>>55671035
you shills love to live to yourselves don't you?
>b-but nobody uses dx12 or vulkan
>e-except the almost two dozen AAA games already out
>o-or the buttload more already planned
>o-or 3 of the most licensed engines out there
>o-or the others with support already in the works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)

you are literally denying easily provable facts and desperately trying to pretend that real demonstrable progress doesn't exist only so that one commercial product will look better than another

and worst of it, you're doing it for free. what do we call this? voluntary slavery?

>>55671115
nvidia doesn't benefit from vulkan anywhere close to as much as AMD, of course they'd use opengl.

I think I've found my card brehs:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-6gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-1280-core-1506mhz-gpu-1708mhz-boost

>>55671120
how_to_spot_the_shill.jpg

>>55671081
>perfect answer
>shitty dx11 1080p superstar that's already obsolete

haah
waaw

>>55671147
How's that shilling?

>>55671134
The funny thing is a 1060 even beats the 480 in DX12

>>55671139
There's a single fan gainward one which is 10 pounds cheaper on ocuk.

>>55671120
Nice paperlaunch retard.

>>55671147
>posting a link to new egg is shilling

Wow, that's a new one.

>>55671152
Uhh duh, stop shilling anytime

>>55671154
in one game, and most likely due to software issues

it's pretty astounding how you people will turn one tiny scrap of ephemeral information into Gospel if it corroborates what you believe

this is nothing short of mental illness

>>55671196
1060 even beats 480 in 3DMark's new DX12 benchmark

>>55671206
Which doesn't use async.

>>55671158

How is Gainward compared to EVGA tho? My current card is an asus but they're usually always too expensive now compared to the rest so fuck em.

Reading AMD leddit has been immensely amusing. So much butthurt there's even soapbox threads about buyer's remorse and people urging everyone to be calm.

What a pathetic little company and what pathetic fans.

>>55671235

Extrapolate some more please anon for those that don't visit that shitty site

>>55671206
>3dmark

http://www.overclock.net/t/1605674/computerbase-de-doom-vulkan-benchmarked/220#post_25351958

>>55671235
Seriously it's hilarious.

AMD is just a sinking ship at this point and all their fans are understandably getting hysterical.

>>55670985
Don't know really, but it shouldn't be too long now. No official infos on RX470 or RX460 release date yet. Won't be this month at any rate.

>>55671235
>>55671282
>we ran out of cherry picked benchmarks and FUD rumors
>let's just project maybe that'll work

>>55671262
It's just the usual

>I should have waiteeeed
>AMD disappoints again
>O-only Adoredtv's review is a real review
>Where the fuck are the aftermarket cards?
>Y-yeah well I've seen the reviews but I'm still going with the 480! (proceeds to get a million upvotes)

>>55671173
you can't actually buy at $250, idiot

>>55671173
Uhh stop shilling whenever you like

>>55671310
It's sold out now, you could buy them yesterday.

Sign up for new egg notifications and you'll get an email when they're in stock.

>>55671306
>b-but the real reviews are the one that benchmark doom on opengl and hitman on dx11
>b-but only I get to cherry pick ;_;

why does nvidia even need to fabricate shit when all their fans need to do is convince themselves

>>55671235
>check the amd reddit
>there isn't any soapbox threads, and there aren't any buyers remorse threads

this nvidia shilling on /g/ is fucking unreal

>>55671356
You meant to say that it's fucking Unreal Tournament 4 (tm) please buy today for the low low price of $59.99!

>>55671115
openGL has different advantages, as it's platform independent for example. Vulkan is the successor the a failed API and there is absolutely no evidence as for its future success.

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>>55671356

>>55671340
funny how it always works that way

every single time one of you fags posts the 1060 selling for $250, I check it out and it's out of stock

EVERY SINGLE TIME

The only way you can get a 1060 right now is paying $300+ for one

how many of you fucking shills are being paid to shitpost here?

I am a Nvidia card owner, but if you honestly think or even hope for AMD going bankrupt then you are a massive retard.

What do you think Nvidia will do when there is LITERALLY NO competition for them?

Do you think they will ever price drop their cards again to stay competitive?
Do you think they will actually try as hard as they can to innovate and develop new cards?
Do you think they will give a shit if you are unhappy with their cards since you literally no longer have an alternative to them?

If you think that monopolies are EVER a good thing for the customer then you need to kill yourself desu.

>>55671380
Uhh you might notice that it's the same thing for the 480

All the new cards are sold out

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When are the aftermarket 480's coming out fellow friends and neighbors?

>>55671394
That's why monopoly laws exist. If Nvidia has no competition, the government breaks them up, then we have some real competition between two Nvidias.

>>55671356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V54W4p1mCu4

why do we even trust the gaming press anymore

>>55671413
>That's why monopoly laws exist. If Nvidia has no competition, the government breaks them up, then we have some real competition between two Nvidias.

Bullshit.

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>>55669520
And here's what happens when you include the 4GB 480

>>55671401
no idea, hopefully before july ends

those will make or break the 480

>>55671449
Unfortunately they will just be more expensive, which means they will be an even worse value than the 1060 even already

>>55671433
Underage detected.

>>55671433
That's what always happens anon.

>>55671490
the 1060 is over 30% more expensive than the 480 and only 6% better overall

there's a buttload of headroom there

>>55671235
Found this gem:

"With the 1060 cards released and reviews out, we can see that it is a great card for its price range. But this is not the end of AMD. The RX 480 is still a powerful card that has potential to become stronger over time through drivers and better support for games in DX12. Both these cards are amazing for their prices and both are perfect choices for entry level builds. My only concern is how much faith this subreddit has on the AMD to deliver future performance. I'm all for AMD and I want the company to provide better competition in the market. If this pattern continues where AMD is always very slightly behind NVidia at CURRENT performance, I feel like AMD is always gonna get stuck behind. I understand that buying a card and waiting for the future performance over current is a choice that is easy for some people. But when are we gonna stop using this excuse? Why are we buying cards based on future performance that may or may not be there? When are we gonna question why AMD hasn't pushed for non reference RX 480's? Why does is seem that every time a new Nvidia card is released, AMD owners always have doubts in their minds? We shouldn't have to wait for future performance or buy current cards based on that alone because in the end no one can predict the future. I understand that AMD has a excellent history of driver support (look at 290/290x), but most consumers are looking at the CURRENT performance. We need to start really questioning what AMD is aiming to do. Currently there are 3 Nvidia Cards on the market, while AMD is only offering 1 (only reference cards too). Why do we have to wait for performance while Nvdia card owners get their money's worth almost immediately?"

I do believe they're starting to become aware they're being scammed.

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>TFW Canadian prices on 480 and 1060
>TFW they are over 100$ more expensive than American prices
>TFW Canada gets 3rd party 480's a month from now
>TFW Even the shitty RX 480 + (insert mobo/cpu) are sold out.

>>55671551
newegg and ncix sell at conversion rates. it sucks but what can you do? the CAD is worthless right now.

also, why the fuck would you buy a reference card?

>>55671543
Uhh the 1060 is $10 more expensive and 7% faster

>>55671582
Uhh more like $150 more expensive and 12% slower

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>>55671605
AMDummies everyone

480 = $239

1060 = $249

Performance in pic

>>55671632
Nvidia shills really are desperate. Guess it's over for nvidia. AMD won this generation.

>>55671632
1060 = $300+

you can't actually buy it for $250 anywhere

>>55671434
>assumes that 4GB and 8GB variants have the same performance
What a dumb chart.

>>55671686

See >>55669480

>>55671718
It's literally the same memory and clock speed after the bios is flashed

the 4GB 480 == 8GB 480

And actual benchmarks don't show much of any difference between the two.

>>55671719
It is, once again, not in stock. As keeps being pointed out to you every time you try to shill it.

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>>55671719
Gee boss thanks, just let me add to cart.

Oh gee willikers! It seems to be out of stock!

nvidiot

>>55665516
F

>>55671786
You mean just like the 480?

I guess the 480 is really $500 because it's out of stock too.

anyone know which coolers will stop their fans at idle? Apparently Gigabyte's does but it isn't clear for the others

>>55672293
MSI does https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/23.html

>>55672304
neat, thanks guy

>>55669392
>>55669480

>Uhh

kys

>>55669542
>it's well known TSMC has yield issues right now


Yet they are providing tons of chips for Apple and ramping up their wafers production from 20000/day across all plants to 27000/day.


TSMC has not yield issues, they are just fully booked by bigger companies than Nvidia, even Samsung is buying from them and Samsung owns their own fabs.

>>55672522
Uhh you're retarded

I wish nvidiots would fuck off to /v/, /g/ is and always has been an amd only board

>>55671235
my favorite ones are threads crying about 3DMark

>>55672727
But amd driver on linux suck...

>>55672766
fuck off to /v/ nvidiot

>>55671413
Keep telling yourself that whenever Comcast fucks you dry again

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>>55672727
>the rx 480 is a massive disappointment
>blame nvidia

typical

>>55672786
>tranny shit
>nvidiot
not even surprised

>>55672781
>fuck off to /v/ nvidiot
?????...I have a 290, enjoy your windows botnet.

>>55672809
>>>/v/

>>55672826
>gpu is only for gaymers

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>>55669606
>Uhh that's a benchmark directly from techpowerup, a very reputable review site.

Techpowerup is a known NVidia shill site.

When AMD launches a new card? They make one post about it. When Nvidia does - they make news about every single AIB launching their own reference design, then all their own unique design.

There's a reason why they weren't sent Fury samples (and they bitched about that for a long time too).

1060 = 980

1050 = 970

damn that a big gain for one generation. Its like the same performance/efficiency gains going from Keeplar 670 to 770 Maxwell

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>>55672895
>When AMD launches a new card?
AMD don't release costume yet

>>55672895
>tpu shill
>hardocp shill
>techspot shill
>xxx shill
Where is the Nitro? Also the Fury nano WAS a joke, the same fucking price than the Fury X without the AIO and downcloked

>>55671377
Vulkan is platform independent (except for Apple, but there OpenGL is shit anyway) and the successor to OpenGL you fucking idiot.

>>55673495
Vulkan is DOA

>>55673943
You're a big shill