RX 480 vs. Nvidia 1060

the cheapest one you can possibly find. preferably after market

They're about the same really. Buying something more expensive because it wins by 3 or 4 frames is pretty retarded, honestly. Besides, DX11 will be dead by 2018.

Get a 380 or a 960 and save 100$ then

Which of the two is better for rendering?

>>55659072
OP here, isn't the 480 supposed to have better DX12 support?

>>55659028
There is only about a £10 difference between a 480 8gb and 1060 but the 1060 is faster. If you're not a poorfag and can afford the extra tenner then I'd say the 1060 but if you're ultra poorfag then get the 480 4gb.

>>55659137
Supposed.

Considering the 20°C difference, power usage of 100W difference, 25dB diff also, by choosing AMD you choose to pay with comfort and electricity bills.

Driver support is also worse.

>>55659214
And from what I'm seeing, you can buy 1060 cheaper than 480.

1060 is much faster at 1080p and rivals a stock 980ti once OCed.

>>55659278
This is nothing shocking. I have a 980 non ti and I have it overclocked to just over 1500 mhz which is just above 980 ti stock equivalent performance. Considering the 1060 is about on par with the 980 it's to be expected.

>tfw 480 overclocks to just under stock 980 performance
>tfw 1060 overclocks to under 980 ti stock performance

Nvidia have a real winner with this one.

If i build for 5 years which one is better

>>55659398
Anything over 4 years AMD wins every single time. Compare some old cards AMD vs Nvidia at launch and now.

>>55659398
You should never keep a gpu for that long. If you care about your gaming experience you should try and upgrade every 3 years or so. The 1060 and 480 will become obsolete garbage in 2 years time once the 580 and 1160 come out and games become naturally more demanding.

>>55659437
yeah and in 4 years my graphics card will be in the scrapheap.
The fans will probably fail or become unbearably loud and not user serviceable.
Actually pretending these shitty things last is what is laughable

480 is better in dx12/vulcan and costs slightly less. It has crossfire capability.

1060 is better in dx11 and uses less power.

It comes down to availability and preference over present vs future. Rx 480 IMO is a safer bet with superior dx12 support and since it can be paired later with another 480. Also it looks to be a hard launch vs NVIDIA's "hardly" launch (FE is NVIDIA pulling a fast one over gamers).

Whatever you choose, wait for aibs to arrive!

>>55659598
>safer bet
>99.99% of games are DX 11 and will be for the forseeable future

Please stop pajeet, it's over

>>55659028
Where I'm at right now, OP. I want to upgrade from my 7950 because it's starting to show its age pretty good. Thinking of the 1060 because 480's prices are retarded right now, but not quite sure. Most benches they seem to be trading blows pretty well at 1080p, so I don't really think it matters much which one more so which is available.

>>55659598
who the fuck wants to play oldass dx11 games from 2009-2016 in 2017+?


/g/ can shit on the rx480 all they want but the fact remains the card is future proof and in the right games with the right api's they pull ahead.

it really is the new 7970

gpu tech hasnt really changed since 2013

>>55659598
I'll probably get the latest 1060 then. Thanks.

>>55659134
Cheaper one + better CPU

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>>55659028
>Which one would be the better option?
the gigabyte one. Literally the best of both worlds.

>>55659598
Crossfire doesn't do shit. Most games on DX12 don't even support it, meaning you'll get lower FPS with two cards than with one sometimes.

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>>55659028
1060 at $249 is the best value GPU you can possibly get

>>55659476

AMD cards last a lot longer, though. I expect rx 480 (8 gb) to stay relevant for 4 years in 1080p and CF supported for considerably more. Expect 15-20% improvement over time vs present due to improving driver support.

1060 will age like milk in sun and will be crippled within a year after 1160 launches. No SLI means dead end.

>>55659028
>the one that will last me longer until I have to upgrade
This alone would indicate the 480 is the better choice for you. 1-2 years from now, DX12 and Vulkan will be more widely used in new games, so the 480 will offer better long term performance, and AMD have better driver optimisation as time progresses.

However, if the majority of the games you play are DX11 or OpenGL, then go with the 1060.

>>55659688
>not pictured 4gb RX 480
But thats pointless anyway because
>2016
>4GB VRAM
I'm sure the flashing 4gb models to 8gb has already been corrected and will only have been present in the first batch of models with the old firmware that caused PCIe overdrraw.

>>55659614

All next gen console games will be built for dx12/vulcan. The future will shortly arrive and there is no stopping it

>>55659688
a Unicorn also is the best horse you could get.
Guess what a Unicorn and a 249$ 1060 have in common?

>>55659705
>AMD cards lost a lot longer
But your mobo won't because it's killed by all the non PCI-E compliant overcurrenting, and the fan on it won't because it's stressed to breaking point and it's not user serviceable. Eat shit pajeet.

>>55659743
>all next gen console games
When's the next gen happening o wizard of the future?
All they've announced is prototypes.

>>55659028
wait for decent AIB 480s or 1060s

>>55659747

Don't fall for that meme.

>>55659214
No it is. Just stop spreading this fud.

>>55659638
Nvidia might gimp the card later on though

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>>55659705
AMD cards fail a lot more. They don't last in the least bit. Pic related.

AMD just gimps their cards and they get slower over time, while Nvidia keeps increasing the speed of their cards.

>>55659688
Graph has an special edit for the 1060 at fictitional MSRP topping the list
the Rx 480 only at currently listed prices, no entry for its also fictional MSRP.

it's like you can't see the shilling

>>55659764
>meme
>independently tested and verified results from major testing and hardware review sites

No

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>>55659745
Oh really?

Look at all these unicorns.

>>55659786

Post source, not just a made up graph so people can review it them self.

>>55659787
>fictional MSRP

Hahahaha good one

See >>55659806

>>55659793
whatever bro. he would need to upgrade 2-3 years from now anyway, since rx 480 isn't even a top tier card at release.

>>55659787
>fictional

>>55659705
No, it won't. Neither card is powerful enough to last more than 2 years. We're talking about mainstream cards here, not high end. Even the 960 and 380 are slowly becoming outdated and struggling to run games on high/ultra and they've only been out for a year now. By next year the 960 and 380 will be shit tier cards.

>>55659759

2018 but game support will be much earlier.

>>55659814
>made up graph

It's directly from here https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/

AMD cards fail at a much higher rate.

Basically AMD cards are cheap garbage.

>>55659822
You took a SS with fictional prices for cards you can't put in your cart and actually order.

I still don't see your point

https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/

>>55659772
People keep saying this yet can't provide evidence proving it. Hell, I've seen more evidence proving it isn't real. 1060 is also faster and marginally more expensive. It's the obvious choice for me.

>>55659834
>but game support will be much earlier
>Playstation is the dominant console
>Sony in charge of changing APIs
No,
Also in 2018 the cards will literally be hot noisy trash with cheaper, faster replacements.
Never ever buy hardware for the future.
Buy it for what you need here and now.

>>55659845
>fictional prices

Bro, it's directly from the newegg website

Right here: http://www.newegg.com/VGA/EventSaleStore/ID-1170

Plenty of $249 1060s

>>55659837
>https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/
> Matt Bach "Mod" Terrance Earle • a year ago
>We've received a lot of comments from people concerned that the issue isn't really from AMD, but rather from Asus. We've been trying out a mix of XFX and Visiontek cards since this article was published and I thought I would post some numbers (you just happened to be the latest comment with this concern when I pulled these numbers). Right now, the total failure rate by brand for AMD Radeon R7/R9 cards is:
>Asus - 22.86%
>Visiontek - 25%
>XFX - 12.9%

So they tested ASUS cards exclusively but then telling people that ASUS got higher failure rate than other cards in comment section instead of in the said article.

Thank you for playing.

>>55659872
Notice how the AMD cards are still failing at a much higher rate.

AMD is basically just bargain bin cheap garbage.

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I really dont understand how people are so excited for cards which match 970 and 980 performance in 2016. Sure they are a bit cheaper but its nothing to really be excited for.

The 490 and 1080 are going into new territory in terms of performance. They are something worth arguing over.

>>55659845
>meanwhile at amazon 8GB 480X reference cards are going for $350

Please stop with this MRSP nonsense. Retailer jewing is not the fault of the manufacturer. They don't get any extra money from hoarders hoarding cards and selling them at markups.
They also don't set those prices so all you're doing is slinging mud when new electronics of any kind are always hoarded/marked up since the beginning of time.

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>>55659864

>>55659872
>he is unironically trying to defend high failure failure rates of his beloved amd

This is next level shilling.

>>55659889
Look again at all the ones going for $249

Here: http://www.newegg.com/VGA/EventSaleStore/ID-1170

>>55659864
How will they damage control this

>>55659908
They can't. AMD is literally finished.

>>55659879

>are still failing at a much higher rate.

Against what? there is no other source to compare it.
He exclusively tested the R7/R9 cards and pull up numbers on it without any other Nvidia compassion to said in that same percentage.

Why he even not renamed the article to "ASUS card failure rate test" when it only exclusively tested on said cards?
Why not bring up the XFX test in said article?
Did they afraid to talk bad on their sponsor?

>>55659886
I was complaining at both sides.
I just pointed out the shilling faux pas from TPU's perf/dollar graph. My comments stated that both MSRP's are nothing but fiction atm.

They were at least decent enough to have a separate entry for the 1060's MSPR.

>>55659924
Uhh he basically tested the whole AMD product line from 2008

All of them failed at a much higher rate than Nvidia.

>>55659924
>IT'S NOT REAL REEEE
Please kys

>>55659895

Not even /g/ recommended an ASUS card for both Nvidia or AMD in this board.
Why would the writer try to hide that information?

>>55659919
And that's what you want? In the 90s we had quite a few more companies working on GPUs and they actually inovated, now you want a fucking monopoly? By nvidia, out of all the options? Damn.

>>55659935
Are you retarded? The 1060 is literally selling for $249 right now:

http://www.newegg.com/VGA/EventSaleStore/ID-1170

>>55659902
>AMD fanboy has left the room

>>55659889
Some cards are being sold at inflated prices because of demand (and Nvidia seems to dribble out cards really slowly compared to AMD for whatever reason). I'm still really impressed that they're actually going for around $250, considering the Founder's Edition is still supposed to be $299 last I heard. I don't know who's going to pay $50 MORE for the reference model but there you go.

>>55659940

He mention in the article that he only tested one brand for the whole product line.
Then said that other cards got lower failure rate but never put it in the article, that's a very questionable moved.

Why would they do that? why hide the information?

>>55659950
AMD has been lying and fucking up for years now. Let that shitty company burn to the ground and let companies that actually make good products like Nvidia survive.

>>55659942

Never said that, it completely agreed it must be real.

But why even bother test one brand and hide the information he got from other brand in mere comment section.

>>55659902
have you even clicked your own link?
sold out, auto-notify, back order. ALL of the cards under that event ID 1170 url.

there's not a single you can put in your cart right now and have it delivered.

And just so you don't accuse me of shilling:
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/

Same situation. Exactly the same situation.

>>55659028
Honestly, you could probably just close your eyes and pick one (after 480 customs come out, all 1060s are OOS anyway right now). There's so many factors involved in graphics card purchasing now, because prices in different regions vary by so much. Some places the 1060 is more expensive by 100 euros, in others it's the other way around. Performances for both cards are pretty comparable, and DX12 performances will vary wildly from vendor specific code. Just compare something like DOOM with OpenGPU functions to Rise of the Tomb Raider. Both cards are mediocre at 1440p and unplayable at 4K, but mostly neck to neck. The sole pure disadvantage of the 480 is a power consumption, but only of about 30-40W. It's not make or break. Honestly, if you're only doing 1080p60 I suggest waiting for a less expensive card like a custom 470 or 1050Ti or what not.

>>55659987
Of course, it's been sold out since this morning.

You could actually buy one when it first came out at like 6am, but all the new cards are sold out.

Hopefully they will get some stock again in a few days.

>>55659986
>why even bother?
so that pajeets like you can get BTFO

>>55659956
Are you retarded?
The RX480 4gb are selling for 199 right now.
Sauce: AMD's press slides.

and only there.

the situation is the same anon.

>>55660000
>sole pure disadvantage
>forget to mention PCI-E current overdraw
>forget to mention 99.99% of games are in DX 11 and will be for the forseeable future with this generation of consoles
Shit in toilet pajeet

>>55659979
This. I wouldn't mind if amd sell off ati to ibm or samsung but fuck amd for releasing shit products year after year. They need to die already. This goes for both cpu and gpu.

>>55660049

Pls don insult my hindism legacy my dear memefriend.

>>55659028
rx480 is more future proof, since it fully supports async. When the time comes you just buy another one and get twice the performance.

>>55660053
Except not even close. The 1060 is literally selling for $249 at this very moment on New Egg.

>>55659522
>>55659476

My HD 6950 is doing fine to this day. I even 2015 titles at mid settings in full hd.

>>55660101
>When the time comes you just buy another one and get twice the performance.

Ebin b8

>>55660104
just stop. please.

you won. I just got my new 1060 there. right now. Thank you based anon.

>>55660137
That's how mantle is supposed to work. And it will.

>>55660072
AMD is kept alive as a phony "competitor" that's too incompetent to actually compete with anyone. If AMD were ever allowed to actually collapse then Intel or Nvidia could get threatened under monopoly laws, so it's in their best interest to keep the corpse propped up and lifelike for now. Meanwhile Intel CPUs utterly dominate the market and all their main "competitor" can do is year after year stammer "J-just wait until [Next Year] guys, it'll be way better than [Current Year]! New technology is right around the corner! We haven't turned a profit for the last ten years, but this time we're really on to something!!!"

Deep down, even the most diehard AMDrone knows this. But they'll never admit it.

>>55660121
>2015 titles

I very much doubt you can run the likes of witcher 3 or similar on your card at medium settings and get 60 fps at 1080p. Not even a 960/380 can run that game at medium settings at 60 fps.

I don't know which of the 80 threads about is is the right one, so I'll ask here: which of these is more silent? It's the only thing I care, really, since I'll be on a 1080@60 and the most demanding game I played in five years was Overwatch.

>>55660165
Didn't try, but I ran battlefront and bloodborne no problem.
I'm still struggling through witcher 2 because I lost my saves and I want it to be perfect when I play the 3rd.

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>>55660121
Pleb.

>>55660165
Or you could just use a lower resolution monitor and run it at 30fps.

>>55660213
>1gb

That's where it gets tough. At least mine is 2gb, which is enough for mid quality textures.

>>55660202
>Bloodborne

Are you okay, anon?

>>55660213
fuck off, i have 7850 and i'm pissed with 30fps games, that's why i ordered gtx 1060 to play on at 60fps even if i'd have to lower details a bit, ultra usually looks the same as high/vhigh but drops fps by 15-30%

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>>55660181
1060 is way more silent

>>55660213
>and run it at 30fps.

disgusting.

>>55660154
That's quite a sad state of affairs. Ironically it's actually the AMD fans that are keeping Intel and Nvidia in power.

>>55659028
Don't worry too much about future proofing, OP. Both are great cards for the price. RX 480 is higher fps/dollar. Especially if you're doing g most of your games on ps4, just get whichever you can find cheaper.

I'm personally going with the RX 480 because it is cheaper and will last me a good while for 1080p gaming. The 1060 is a better card but you pay more. For me, it's not worth the slight extra money.

I have a 7750, I'll probably get a new computer in January. I had a GTS450 before and didn't have any problems with either of my GPUs.

Which one should I get?

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>>55660231
There is nothing else to play anyway. Here's what I'm playing currently.

I don't even know If the rx480 is even worth buying. The games are shit. The only thing that made me think is the witcher 3 and the refubrished skyrim.

>>55660202
>battlefront

This game runs on a variety of hardware which is not unexpected due to it being a huge scale fps. Bf4 also ran well on toasters after they fixed up the launch issues.

>bloodborne

This is a ps4 game..

>>55660280
Please tell me how you got Bloodborne on the pc

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>>55660234
>ultra usually looks the same as high/vhigh but drops fps by 15-30%

I really hates this trend, back then the differences was so noticeable.
Titles like Witcher 3 looks fucking pointless in ultra compare to high whatever what the gaming review site said.

Even Alien Isolation still looks incredible in low/med and barely got any visual improvement in high.

>>55660275
Uhh 1060 is higher FPS per dollar, see >>55659688

>>55660292
>>55660287
Shit you're right. I was playing dark souls on my pc and bloodborne on my brother's ps4 I borrowed.
It blends together.

>>55660292
>He doesn't have a PS4 emulator

lmao

>>55660121
This

Still rocking my flashed 6950 and it still runs pretty much any modern game on medium/high at a decent framerate.

I wonder if Nvidia and AMD shill marketers ever get butthurt and start tearing each other apart on this board.

>>55660275
> RX 480 is higher fps/dollar

no it's not unless you want to buy gimped 4gb card

gtx 1060 6gb - $4.16 per fps | rx 480 8gb $4.44 per fps


https://youtu.be/DSdyRgAjq4A?t=24s

>>55660254
Yeah. They have a bit of a windfall every now and then but according to ycharts their net income since 2003 has been a grand total of Negative 30 billion dollars. It's a shitty situation since any reasonable person would want real competition to keep Nvidia from fucking over their consumers, but instead all we have is AMD.

So where are the AIB RX480's and pricecuts?
Nvidia is stealing the midrange market from AMD right under their noses if they don't do something.

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>non-reference is $100 more

good luck selling anything overseas nvidia

dollars per fps?

based on what standard? nvidia's? amd's? some shitty hardware site?

ohhhh boy the marketing geeks have really outdone themselves.

>>55660325
AMD gave up on PC gpus long time ago. Looks they just need that 20% market share for marketing.

They dominate the mobile, console and server gpu market and that's where the money is at.

no one on /g/ has a 1060, but they swear its the best thing everrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>55660325
How long can they possibly last losing that much money every year?

>>55660359
Because they earn their money elsewhere.

>>55660350
Welcome to /g/.

>>55659028
4gb 480

>>55660381
I don't think you understand, they lose money every year in millions.

>>55659137
yes, for the long term the 480 is the better buy just wait for the nitro to come out though

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>>55660393
Only in the discrete GPU market.

AMD is doing pretty well overall. Why wouldn't they? Every console and multimedia shit out there runs an AMD.

>>55660449
what happened in 2012

>>55660449
I don't know much about economics, what's the difference between Gross Margin and net income? Because it's their net income that's been in the red.

https://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/net_income_ttm

compare
https://ycharts.com/companies/NVDA/net_income_ttm
https://ycharts.com/companies/INTC/net_income_ttm

>>55660449
Uhh no they aren't, look at their income:

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amd/financials?query=income-statement

They lose like half a million every quarter.

>>55660474
gross is total amount of money earned excluding costs

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lol

>>55660490
good marketing

>>55660490
Top kek, ASUS forced to fix AMD's fuck ups.

>>55660473
fermi blew up.

are people going to restock on either anytime soon?

>>55660481
You don't even know how to read your own link, do you?
They don't lose it. They are just overspending.

They just thrown 90% of their profit into the R&D and the rest to cover the loan interests. That way they pay almost no taxes.

>>55659806
This time you cut off the 'Back order' part. Nice try nigga.

>>55660529
You might be retarded. They are literally losing shitloads of money every single quarter.

>>55660490
This is probably why all the AIB partners are taking so long to release custom 480's.

Sorta related question.
Is it worth it to get a monitor that supports Freesync if I get the 480? Is there a big difference between Freesync and a regular 60hz monitor?

>>55660529
Oh, so they can turn a profit any time they want, they're just choosing to keep their net income in the negative billions of dollars for tax reasons, unlike all of their competitors. Phew, I sure was worried about the health of the company there for a minute. Good thing AMD's so much smarter with their money than Nvidia and Intel.

>>55660540
They lost more than the company is worth over the years, by all logic they should be bankrupt for a while now. In reality they are running an elaborate financial scam.

>>55659028

Go with the 1060

Or

Go with the 480 8gib and in the future buy another and crossfire them

>>55660504
>>55660509
>>55660544
got it here:
http://videocardz.com/62392/asus-shows-off-radeon-rx-480-strix-and-rx-480-dual

that strix heatsink looks pretty sweet. Are they exactly the same for both AMD and Nvidia or do they have some minor differences?

>>55660005
>Hopefully

Sounds like the 1070/1080 situation all over again to me. The 480 sold out eventually but I am sure they had plenty of stock at least for a few days at RRP.

1060 is a bit better, but for more money
480 is a bit worse, but for less money
Just get whatever fits your budget

>>55660566
fairly certain they are the same

>>55660529
Gross Profit - Research & Dev - Sales, General & Admin - Non-recurring items - Other Operating Items = Operating Income

Every year AMD has posted a negative operating income (as shown by the red bars), and the same can be seen with Net Income.

AMD are losing money every year.

>>55660550
Top kek lol

>>55659979
>regressive driver updates
>housefires
>woodscrews
>"good products"
Get the fuck out shill

>>55660550
Do you really think Intel and Nvidia don't cook their books?

Shit, private citizens making more than 500k are familiar with creative accounting, do you think companies with more people hired for their financial teams than engineers play by the book?

only poor people pay taxes.

>>55660570
They're all sold out:

1080
1070
480
1060

All these new GPUs are in such high demand and they can't make enough of them.

>>55660624
You might want to tell AMD shareholders this secret information you have.

You fucking retard.

>>55660566
They'll most likely have a slight variation between AMD and Nvidia. The only problem with that heatsink is that it looks like not all of the pipes will make contact with GPU.

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>>55660587
Rationally I would say so - lower costs accross platforms. But maybe there were some technical quirks.

>>55660643
>he thinks it's a secret.

You're a literal retard.

>>55660633
AMD is suffering from coin miners no doubt. Nvidia are just snowed under by actual poorfag gamers looking for their summertime school break gaming upgrade for mommy and daddy to buy for them.

>>55660302
Just shut the fuck up. We've already had this shitshow.

since when motherfucking 250-350 dollars is low budget?

>>55660633
I've been holding my gpu upgrade because 28nm.
Never would've imagined that so many people would be at that same spot.

>>55660663
>AMD is losing millions a year, but it's just some secret scheme

OK buddy, you are officially brain damaged.

>>55660665
The truth hurts doesn't it.

>>55660633
This is probably due to the massively increased demand by people transitioning into pc gaming for the first time. Pc gaming is insanely popular now with console players changing over to budget pc's. Console gaming as we know it is becoming less appealing whereas pc gaming is increasing in popularity probably due to mobas and shit. Nintendo and Microsoft are already trying to slowly get out of the "console" market and I bet in 5 years time the next Nintendo "console" will be a streaming device of some sort and Nintendo will also be focusing on mobile gaming eg 3ds/android/apple whilst we're already seeing Microsoft trying to merge the xbox console with pc and they've already said they want to release upgradable consoles which will probably be form factor pc's running with upgradable gpu and cpu which will probably be subsidised by Microsoft to get people to buy pc gaming components and hardware through them. Sony are the only ones who are sticking with the typical console since its the only thing they have left propping them up and they have no other alternative route like ms and Nintendo do. Sony have basically admitted their war with pc gamers after they said they don't want people migrating to pc but they want them to buy their new ps4k instead. Its not going to end well for them.

>>55660735
No, I just have plenty of experience dashing my head against a wall when dealing with shills and fanboys on this shithole of a board. Now take your arrogant douchebaggery and shove it up your asshole.

>>55660759
Sorry facts are difficult.

>>55660678

Since the 8800gt era.

People in /g/ are retarded, news at eleven.
They rather drop their IQ instead of talking like human being.

>>55660777
I'd be willing to bet my left nut that when the 1060 comes back in stock on Newegg it sells for more than MSRP.

>>55660796
Sorry but your left nut is going bye bye.

You can literally backorder them at $249 right now, that means you buy it and reserve it at that price immediately.

>>55659806
>back order, back order, back order, back order,

>>55660813
You can still buy them at that price and they'll ship it to you when stock comes in. That's what I'm doing with my 480. What can you do, scalpers gonna scalp

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>this is a real chart used in a legitimate article currently on Forbes.com

>>55660796
Screenshotting this post for future use.

You better deliver anon, we are expecting proof that you cut off your left nut.

>>55660844
Well it's Forbes, what do you expect.

The point is the 1060 is faster than the 480 even in DX12.

>>55659028
>1080Ti
Go BIG or go home. Big guys are talking.

>>55660844
Wow, even Forbes has stooped to posting photoshopped bullshit? Nvidia shills must have infiltrated their report staff...

>>55660870
Except that Time spy isn't Dx12.
Proper.

>>55660903
Gamespot has a review for the 1060.
Nvidia went full out shilling for this launch.

>>55660913
"Time Spy is a DirectX 12 benchmark test for gaming PCs running Windows 10."

OK

>>55660903
Its not photoshopped, just a typical misleading graph

>>55660976
>just because they say it is means it must be true!

>>55660995
Oh sorry I forgot, it's all just a big conspiracy.

>>55660896
They probably won't release it unless amd release a competitor which might not happen. We know vega will compete with the 1070/80 but there's no word of anything above that. Nothing confirmed anyway. They'll probably let nvidia have the 1000 dollar titan because there really isn't a market for amd in the very high end since nvidia will just release a cheaper slightly cut down titan which will probably btfo anything amd offers anyway just like the 780 ti and 980 ti.

Reminder that 3DMark scores are gimped to favor Nvidia. AMD are also idiots for signing off on it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4tnuob/futuremark_releases_statement_regarding_timespy/

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Stupid question: I bought an MSI GTX 1080 Armor--worth returning it for the Gaming X Edition for $20 more? It's literally the same card with higher clocks and a better cooler.

When will both be sold at the reference price?

>>55659522
The Nitro 480 has replaceable fans with diamond chokes :^)

>>55661069
>480
when non references flood them market

>1060
when tsmc handles their yield problem so late fall at best

>>55659716
This

>>55661136
There isn't a yield problem at tsmc. Their output is fine and it's because of the excessive demand for the new nvidia cards which is why they're out of stock. Once the demand dies down it should be fine.

>>55661166
You actually believed that blatant bullshit?

>>55661173
There are a few sites reporting that it's not a yield issue and it does make sense.

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I need a cheap upgrade because I want to play BF1 at max settings, but I feel like my 760 is going to let me down since I can't get good frame rate on high in Battlefront with it.
At the same time, I don't want to buy any of the 10XX cards because they're not future proof.
AT THE SAME TIME, I don't want an AMD card because I work with Premiere and I can use CUDA cores to render projects.
I think I'm just going to get the 1060, upgrade to a 1080ti or Vega when they come out, and give my 1060 to my friend as a birthday present.

/blog

>>55659028
Question here. Also looking to upgrade to one or the other.

Only nvidia supports programs like DaVinci Resolve and Maya right? I was hoping to be able to use both.

>>55661224
Also in my country they retail for about the same

>>55659028

>>55661069
1060 is already selling $50 below reference

>>55661272
If you can get them for the same price, the 1060 has way better performance.

>>55659654
rx 480
g sync
wat?

>>55659940
no he didnt he just got asus cards and more spec direct cu ones..
which they also happen to have the biggest failures in general since asus was just slapping nvidia coolers to amd cards..

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Can someone post manufacturer tier list for AMD cars?

>>55659269
>you can buy 1060
No, you cannot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwlPmLRpiU

>>55661431
sapphire xfx and mayyyybeee powecolor are top tier

avoid asus even if they pay you to get one

>>55661411
Nice damage control

>>55661460
>powercolor
lolno
sapphire and msi are the best amd aibs

>>55659214
Where the fuck did you get 100W? From what ive seen its around 70W in heavy games. Also you compare reference to reference and 1060 ref is better but no one is going to buy reference anymore, everyones waiting for custom cards.

>>55661471
Did you get MSI from that reddit poll?

They're about the same value but the 480 is cheaper.
If it's just 1080p you're worried about, the 1060 is kinda overkill, really.

Oh yeah- consider a used 970. IF you can get one cheaper than a 480 then go for that instead.

>>55661471
i wouldnt really trust msi after what they did with 390...
literally 50 watts more of any other 390 for literally nothing in return

>>55661490
no? sapphire and msi have been at the top for a while now, sapphire used to be much worse where asus (dcu2) and msi (twin frozr 2, 3) were the top cards. gigabyte have always been midtier, powercolor have always been the cheap option

I decided to wait for the dust to settle, then make a decision. I keep seeing 1060's at 279€, and taking out vat, it sits way below msrp.
Will I miss on a killer deal on them? Maybe. But seeing as the card came out today, I was never too keen on being a first edition beta tester on anything. Plus, it's likely amd will respond to this with a price drop.

>searching for 1060s
>end up finding a 1070 for £398
>in stock

Fuck I'm tempted.

>>55661483
dude they are posting tpu review only literally the only review that used only gameworks games

the card is 26 watts lower than 480 on a gaming loop with no hardware to support dx12 at all hence the rape we saw from the few reviewers that actually did a dx12/vulcan test

>>55661492
1060 is much better value, see >>55659688

>>55659137
480's the better purchase if you expect to have the card for more than 1 year.

Performance difference in dx11 between the 480 and 1060 is marginal, but the 480 has better vulkan/dx12 support and will do 10-30% better in those games.

>>55661549
1060 is actually faster than the 480 in DX12

>>55661554
>inb4 tomb raider or some other gimpworks garbage

>>55661464
wanna talk damage control?
http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/kepler/Tesla-K20-Active-BD-06499-001-v04.pdf
literally 1/3 of the projected time of an nvidia card and that on 35c on gpu sensor

https://www.amd.com/Documents/AMDFirePro_FamilyBrochure.pdf


i guess you gonna have a hard time explaining as to how your own company contradicts that stupid site you keep posting

>>55661523
Fuck I found another for £379. Fuck it I'm gonna buy it whilst it's in stock. It's not a shitty blower style cooler model either.

>>55661538
>posting tpu
>forgets to mention it didnt benched a single non gameworks game
>not a single dx12 or vulcan game
>thinks the card is better at any way

honestly 1060 is just another 960 only this time around it wont have the dx11 to save its ass

From the review site i trust 1060 on 1700mhz boost is 13% faster on average than 1150mhz 480. On OC both perform about the same. 1060 is a better because of a lover power consumption. 480 is better because of free-sync support, vulkan, dx12 and you know for sure it wont turn into a pumpkin in a year.

>>55660066
>>forget to mention 99.99% of games are in DX 11 and will be for the forseeable future with this generation of consoles
consoles have low level mantle-like APIs since forever

>>55660302
well, except the part where the graph is lying by comparing a the MSRP for the 1060 to the currently available price of the 480, rather than MSRP of both or the current price of both.

This is why I'm not buying nvidia - the shilling and blatant lying on top of the gameworks bullshit.

>>55661598
care to show proof of that? and post a site that actually did a profesional bench not only gameworks games

>>55660181
this is not a good decision criteria because there will be silent aftermarket versions for both cards

the stock cooler on the gtx 1060 is probably quieter than rx 480's stock cooler but you shouldn't buy stock cards anyway

>>55660181
well its not like overwatch will use your gpu so much for it to supersonic..
overwatch is very cpu bound (blizzard game ) so i think you are asking the wrong question here lol

>>55661554
no it isn't, lol

>>55661598
I bet it's computerbase

Is an RX 480 a good upgrade from a 7950? The latter is starting to show its age lately in that even on med-low settings, games are having a hard time hitting the full 60fps unless I go sub 1080p.

Also, when will be seeing the partner cards for the 480? Sometime in August?

>>55661690
I heard july 23rd or 27th for the AIB cards

>>55661690
well your card isnt really supported on tw and on latests rotr patch 7 along with maxwell cards..
so yeah if you are interested to play any of the upcoming games you gonna have to

>>55661690
it would be decent if you could get a non reference 480 to replace the 7950

>>55661685
Nope.
>>55661638
Here are the % numbers between stock cards. Keep in mind 480 is 1150mhz in that test.
13
11
11 Crysis
13
-5 Far Cry 4
8 GTA 5
18
20
5 The Witcher 3

>>55661756
in what test they actually underclocked the 480?

Will there be a RX480X?

>>55661775
Yes, but it'll be called an RX485

>>55661763
I guess they used this clock because the card throttles without increasing power limit and shit. OC to 1350 the card gains around 14% on average compared to 1150.

>>55661064
You could do it yourself and just overclock it and you gets the same result as the gaming X for you were to return it. It's would probably be even better

>>55661064
If you can find it for that price yes.

>>55661756
Well we can pretty much confirm it's a garbage website then. Every other benchmarker testing the 480 at 1266 gets slower results compared to a reference boost 1060 by a 10/15% average. How your shill site got percentages like that with an underclocked 480 is beyond me. They're either blind or purposely lying.

>>55661775
nope no indication of a bigger 480

>>55661802
i highly doubt the card throttles on its normal clock that is 1266mhz....i havent seen a single bench of it showing that
also if that is the case they should have done the same for 1060 since they dont maintain their boost clock for more than 10 mins...

>>55661763
On average 480 1150mhz is 5 FPS slower with two worst case scenarios of 10 FPS slower than 1060 1700mhz.

>>55661821
Here we go. Believe whatever you want. If you want to get 1060 so bad then get it. My source is the only unbiased one that i know for sure. Keep believing whatever hardware unboxed shows you )))

>>55661836
im asking for a site that actually used the 480 on that clock

>>55661836
I wont post because i dont want to get shit on, sorry. Ill keep my comfy review site for myself.

>>55661852
>random website which this guy is too scared to share with everyone in fear we'll find it out to be a shill site gives out skewed results which imply the 480 is magically stronger than 99% of other benchmarks are showing
>implies the 480 is marginally behind a 1060 at some random underclock and that it'll be better than the 1060 at stock speeds

I bet you believed those faked benchmarks showing a 1060 at 1900 mhz was slower than a stock 480.

>>55661892
Maybe most of reviewers are incompetent and dont know that 480 cannot keep its boost clock most of the time? I dunno. Again if you think 13% against 480 is too low then youre delusional. Ill enjoy your butthurt when AIB 480 comes out.

>>55661892
i dont know about that whoever did a proper test with more than just gameworks games(cough cough tpu) is showing the card to be faster on non gameworks games and a lot faster on dx12/vulcan

only idiots here who keeps posting tpu as a reliable source is actually claiming that the card is shit face it its just a 960 a flop as it was back then

>>55661821
Nigga pretty much everyone know that 480 is around 10% slower than 980. 1060 is 980 level and sometimes slower.

>>55661919
Are you thick in the head? Are you really accusing benchmarkers of something stupid like that? You think they don't know how to monitor clock speeds? Neck yourself shill. The 480 was a flop and the 1060 is superior. Deal with it.

>incoming assmad amdrone replies

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>68 posters
>244 replies

OP is replying to himself to try and make the thread seem relevant

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>>55661967
Typical nvidiot.

>>55661967
because surely the benchmarkers know their job right?
thats why most of them had to re do the pascal tests to see the real difference after 10 mins of playtime since the cards were throttling down to their base clock all the time
kek

>>55661948
That's not the point. The point is this "unbiased" site is claiming the 480 is only slower when at some random underclock which implies that

1. when at normal clocks it gains that 10/15% performance gap to the 1060

2. All the hundreds of other reviewers who got similar benchmarking results are all liars when compared to this one "unbiased" site

Don't forget this guy is too scared to post this "unbiased" site for the sole reason he knows he'll get laughed at when it's actually amd forums or some shit.

I've only ever owned AMD cards but the 480 was so fucking awful I couldn't bring myself to buy AMD this time around and settled on the 1070

>>55661995
Do you not know how they conduct benchmarks? Are you really this mentally challenged? They obviously test the card with an effort to negate effects of thermal throttling to see the full potential of a video card just like they use 2000 dollar cpu when doing the tests. You are seriously brain dead.

Also
>what is a custom fan curve

You think thermal throttling isn't preventable in general?

>>55661996
1. Its not getting 10/15% from full 1266 boost. Its getting around 5%.
2. I dont give a fuck about hundreds of reviwers. I told you that its the only resource i trust. If it says its 50% faster than 480 i will believe them, there is no fanboism on my side.

Posting my source wont gain me anything. You will just shit on it and add it to your "AMD shill review sites list".

>>55661981
t.assmad amdrone who knows I'm right

Cheers :^)

>>55662051
>Posting my source wont gain me anything.

You won't lose anything either. Why are you so scared? Don't worry, I won't laugh at you that much.

>>55662062
Good luck buying your magically 30% faster than 480 card on this paper launch :^)

>>55662049
you really didnt followed the whole throttle fiasco of the FE cards do you know...when even the biggest shill jayz shits on you you know its bad
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=dj8__RIm91o

>>55662080
> >incoming assmad amdrone replies

Feels good to always be right :^)

>>55662049
Most reviewers are so lazy and retarded they cant be arsed to change colors on nvidia to full range since on default its limited and looks washed out compared to amd.

>>55662091
>literally adjusts the fan slider and power target in msi afterburner to fix the issue and show up all these amdrones
>tfw it's not nearly half as bad as having to manually undervolt and create a custom power target for the 480 after its massive throttling issues of it own

Kek

Based jay.

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The 480 seems unaffected by the 1060

Looking to upgrade a few parts on PC
>graphics card
>monitor
>PSU to support upgraded parts aboce ^

I want to be able to play WoW and CS:go on ultra (don't judge)

Planning to buy a Benq monitor with a gtx 1060 6gb to compliment it. I would need PSU recommendations to support these two new upgrades so any help would be much appreciated

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AMDRONES ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>55662158
You don't need a 1060 or a 480 for those games on ultra. If you want to save money, just get a 470.

>>55660995
Moron

>The FE is $300, which is a harder sell for a general 10% difference between the RX 480 and GTX 1060 FE. At $250, that 10% difference becomes attractive.
For cock loving niggers saying that 1060 is "MUCH FASTER" than 480. 10 fucking %. Its like 5 frames on average. And gamernexus tested pretty much EVERYTHING.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2518-nvidia-gtx-1060-review-and-benchmark-vs-rx-480

>>55662173
Money isn't really an issue, just want a silky smooth experience & something that will last

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>>55662168
No u.

>>55659747
>>55659793
Nvidia is WORSE for this you gigantic dicksucking faggot.

>>55659747
Nice meme! Not a single proof of a broken mobo even though AMD sold thousands of them. A guy on the reddit was offering people few thousands dollars if they would give him a proof of a burned mobo. Not a single faggot was found. Also this meme was fixed by a driver hot-fix a while ago :^) But w.e keep clinging to it, its all that left for you.

>>55662168
that doesnt seem to be right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnFv8cnjZA

its always fun to shill on sites that clearly dont use the latest patch for the games
>980 65 fps kek

>there are people itt right now who really believe the 480 is the better performing card even though the 1060 is factually superior to it in dx11 benchmarks by quite a margin and arguably better than the 480 in dx12 benchmarks

i cant tell if these people are just trolling or are legit this deluded

What is the point of a 1060 when i can get a 1070 for 100 to 150 more? The price performance of 1070 is better than the 1060 in canadian maple bucks...

What type of PSU is recommended to support RX 480 ?

>>55662397
You think everyone can afford 150 dollars over budget? 50 dollars maybe but 150 is a retarded amount.

>>55660165
what the hell are you taking about? My 380 OC locks at 60 fps at 1080 with Witcher 3 at high settings and textures on ultra. Just don't use fucking hair works and you're fine.

>>55662412
8.2 Gigawatts

>>55662427
Pay 500$ and get 4 to 5 years out of 1 card or pay 350$ twice in the same period. The value for a 1060 doesnt make any sense compared to 1070. The 480 makes sense as its half the price, but the 1060 just doesnt make sense.

>there are people itt right now who really believe the 1060 is the better performing card even though the 480 is factually superior to it in dx12 benchmarks by quite a margin and arguably better than the 1060 in dx11 benchmarks

i cant tell if these people are just trolling or are legit this deluded

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>>55662433
>My 380 OC locks at 60fps with Witcher 3*
>*only in the forest and open fields

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>>55662312
>>55662453

>>55662439
You can have your own little Chernobyl.

>>55662453
Can I see those arguable benchmarks which show it to be the same as a 1060 in dx11? I'm talking about 10-20 games btw not cherry picked ones.

>>55662051
Even as someone who has a Fury X - fuck off.
If you're not willing to show sources for claims, you can fuck off and don't bother even trying to talk about shit.
This shouldn't be /shill/, this is /g/.
I'd much rather everyone dropped the shilling and name calling and just be fucking adults and be upfront and honest with shit. If a card is better or worse, its better or worse. End of the day, unless you personally designed the card or work for the company, there's absolutely no reason to get THAT attached.

>>55662489
>there's absolutely no reason to get THAT attached
You either stand for something, or fall for nothing.

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>>55662481
>shitposts to shil nvidia
>some else reshitposts it but switching nvidia with amd to outline the bias in the original post
>retard replies asking for proof

>>55662498
As I said, there's no reason to get THAT attached to a company.
Yes I want AMD to do well because I rely on them for driver updates and pushing technology forward. We need both companies to be around and healthy to really see big pushes for the future and keep prices in check.
Does that mean I make up false reports on performance, or defend AMD regardless of what they do? No.
Does that mean I shit on Nvidia for everything they ever do? Well, I shit on them for their shitty practices, but I don't turn round and deny the fact that they've got the strongest single GPU card on the market or try to make their cards look worse somehow.

Stop being a fucking child and thinking life is one big battle and you've got to be the champion of every issue.

>>55662498
>stand for a corporation
literally kill yourself

Before any of you nVIDIA marketing shills call me an AMD fanboy: I'm running 780's in SLI.


Buy the RX480.


Close performance, price difference at MSRP more than reflects that (assuming you're not willfully being raped by amazon resellers). Even if we skip AMD's 4870 glory days, think to yourself... what cards were competing recently? GTX 670/680 vs 7950/7970. Guess what? 7950/7970 leaves the 6xx series in the dust now. R9 290/x vs gtx 780/ti? Yeah, AMD now wins handily while the nvidia cards used to have a slight edge. Thanks to nvidia gimpworks and lack of future driver support nvidia isn't a good buy unless you upgrade every. single. cycle. Card will last you two generations or more? Buy AMD. I regret getting the 780's instead of the competing AMD cards of the time. Don't make my mistake.


tl;dr: upgrade every year? nvidia may be worth it for you. upgrade every 2 cycles or more? buy AMD.

>>55662513
How was the original post biased?

>there are people itt right now who really believe the 480 is the better performing card even though the 1060 is factually superior to it in dx11 benchmarks by quite a margin

Are you denying or ignoring all the benchmarks which are showing the 1060 be at least 10% faster than the 480? This would make it factually superior because of that 10%-15% average advantage. This claim is correct

>and arguably better than the 480 in dx12 benchmarks

From simple browsing this thread I can see benchmarks which show this as a possibility of being true >>55662168

4 games tested
Nvidia = 2 wins
Amd = 1 win
And 1 draw

How is this wrong as a claim? Please explain.

Also you still need to show me those majority benchmarks proving the 480 is arguably better than the 1060 in dx11.

It seems you are just buttblasted about the original post being a legitimate claim with facts anyone can search up to back that claim.

>>55662051
hardware canucks?

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>>55662489
Lul, nvidiot. You actually expected 1060 to be "INSANE"? Its 10% faster on average. Most reviewers say so. Stay butthurt.

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>>55662588

>>55661460
i had an ASUS HD 7750 for a few years and the fan was great
whats the downsides of asus ?

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>>55662611
Even if you really own it it proves nothing. You clearly nvidia biased. No other way you will get so butthurt about 480 being 10% slower.

I typically get AMD cards, but i might go for the 1060 if i can get it for £250 Seems a solid little performer.
Ultimately the optimal gaming lifespan for these midrange cards is about 2 and a half years. cost wise it's about the same as a high end card, assuming those last about 5 years.

And both of these will offer double the performance of my current midrange card.

Very tough decision... go for the better current card, or gamble on better future performance?

>>55662611
>AMDrones status BUTTBLASTED AND ANALANNIHILATED

>>55662614
they been slapping nvidia coolers on amd cards since 2011 (the oldest known incident) resulting into heat and less perf

>>55662640
There are 1060s going for £229. Or even better there are finally 1070s going for msrp £379.

>>55662611
kek having a far superior card (if you have it anyways) and being shilling for a inferior card

that is some next level of shilling going on lol

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is gigabyte good? i have a 2nd hand GTX 670 from them and one of the DVI ports displays a pink screen so i cant use dual screen with a current setup

>>55662647
i had no idea
ill keep it in mind

>>55662663
we dont really care about murican prices you know..
as far as we know 99% of the 1060 is a backorder..
amazon claims yesterday they sold 22 and today they only have 13 in stock(40 mins ago)
this is basicly a new form of paper launch

>>55662611
Hello, Piers Morgan.

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>>55662632
But I'm not butthurt about that at all. My only posts in this thread have been (in reverse order)
>>55662611 >>55662529
>>55662489
I don't give a fuck about the 1060/RX480
I give a fuck about idiots spreading misinfo, shills and other cunts of that calibre.#

>>55662683
Oh shi-
The world knows!

>>55662678
Are you dense? How is £ American? Fucking retard.

>>55662666
Also, forgot to reply to you.
I'm not even shilling though. I've just come in here to look at the discussion and my very first post was SCOLDING a fucking shill, you complete mentally cunted moron. An AMD shill no less.

>>55662683
You're joking, right?

>>55662700
calm down lad, soon the pound will be the same value than the euro anyway

>>55662675
Gigabyte is trash. Avoid it like the plague.

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>>55662695
Fucking autist, read >>55662185 for example
>someone claims that 1060 is 10% faster on average
>FUCKING AMD SHILLS EVERY BENCHMARK SAYS ITS 50% FASTER!!!!1
>someone posts a proof of in depth review showing 10% difference
>ignore it
Ayy lmao.

How's MSI for graphics cards?

MSI GTX 1060 for $361AUD, I'm losing my fucking mind. That's only $40AUD more than the RX 480.

>>55662740
I didn't see any of that. Besides, what has that got to do with me?
You do realise that people come into these threads and don't read the entire thread right? Because that WOULD be autistic.
I jumped to a near-end point, found someone shilling, got annoyed by it and decided to tell them to fuck off.
Jesus fuck you must be retarded to not understand how this works.

>>55662743
Where are you seeing it for $361 ? (im in aus)

>>55662611
>facebook
>Piers Morgan
>tumblr
>chrome
>/vg/
Get out SJW fag.

>>55662743
ASUS, EVGA and MSI are the top brands for Nvidia.

Sapphire, XFX and MSI are the top brands for AMD.

>>55662051
We're still waiting for this "unbiased" source.

>>55662768
>Chrome
No, its firefox you fucking mongoloid.

>>55662759
>someone disagrees with me
>HE IS SHILLING!

>>55662770
>asus
>nvidia

No. Zotac are even better than shitty asus. Zotac are better than most in actual fact. They make solid cards.

zotac itx 1060 in stock for $249

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402

>>55662761
Must be a mistake, the MSRP for australia is AUD$429

>>55662761
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100203018%20601205646&IsNodeId=1&Description=1060&name=Desktop%20Graphics%20Cards&Order=BESTMATCH&isdeptsrh=1

Newegg, bud. Their prices are actually better than uMart, usually. That being said, it's out of stock now, so we'll see what the price does when it comes back. It'll probably spike.

>>55662794
Cheers mate

>>55662768
>piers morgan

I thought he had that open because he was an arsenal fan. I forgot you degenerates actually still care about what sjws and tumblr fags do. Grow up.

>>55662813
No wukkas. Australian Newegg prices were shit when it first came out, but they've definitely stabilised since then.

Gigabyte 1070 is 530 canadian while zotac is 580$. Gigabyte is by far the cheapest. Ive never heard bad things about gigabyte and thats bretty cheap.

>>55662785
No, it was
>Someone makes a claim
>Someone else asks them to prove claim
>First person says they won't provide source
>Second person tells them to stop being a bitch and provide source
>First person won't
>I scold first person

End of discussion, I'm sick of you.

>>55662743
This is my personal experience but MSI have had the most consistently solid hardware I've bought.

>>55662851
>Ive never heard bad things about gigabyte
I don't know what they're like for Nvidia, but they're shit-tier when it comes to AMD.

>>55662863
Looks like I might get an MSI 1060 then. I'm still gonna wait for the Sapphire 480 Nitro, but I'm not hopeful anymore.

>>55662815
Funny thing is, I'm neither.
I've got friends who draw and one whose a photographer. Tumblr is the one place they all post their stuff, so that's where I look at it.
I don't post on Tumblr myself, I don't even check it more than once a day if even that.
People are just too busy trying to find a boogeyman to blame all of their problems on.

> MSI GTX 970 - $361
> MSI GTX 1060 - $361
Holy shit.

Also,
> EVGA GTX 1070 $601

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>mfw dx12

Idk if I want to shill out for a 1070 or buy a 1060. I only have 1 slot for a gpu, can't SLi a 1060 so no point really but its cheap and performs well at 1080p/1440p which is all I need idk too hard to decide gpu's.

>>55662858
>you cant say things without a proof
You can suck a dick faggot, i dont care if you believe me or not.

>>55662168
>480 better in everything but the shitty tomb raider gayme
wew lad did you even read your shit benchmark

>>55663053
Intelligence isn't a common trait amongst Nvidiots

>>55663053
At 1080p (neither 1060 nor 480 are QHD or higher cards, just look at the sub 60 fps frame rates), 1060 wins:

Hitman by 7.9%
Tomb Raider by 22%

480 wins:
Ashes by 4.9%
Total War by 0.3%

1060 wins by 6% on average. Pretty good considering 3 of the 4 games are AMD sponsored.

>>55663074
Seems like you lack it as well.

>>55662944
If you are planning to keep the card for a long time get the 1070. If you are going to want to upgrade again in 2 to 3 years then get the 1060. Even though i mostly play autistic grand strategy games im getting a 1070 simply so it will last me 5 years. Same as my current 7950.

So how would either of these cards perform at 1440 with high rather than ultra settings and perhaps less aggressive AA?

>>55663119
the 480 can easily do 1440p

>>55659028
RX480 hasd 8GB and has functioning async

the 1060 is slightly better at current games
the rx480 is better at upciming games (esp. with DX12).

so, if you buy a new grafics card each year, the 1060 is probably the better choice. if you keep it for longer the rx480 is the better choice.

>>55663053
>480 loses in 2 of the 4 games with 1 being a tie at 1080p

Amdrones confirmed for being blind

>>55663041
>It was the faggot who wouldn't provide proof that I was arguing with the whole time
Makes fucking sense, how much do you get paid?

>>55663218
Clearly not in those games at those settings. Might as well play on a console if you're not getting 60 fps.

>>55663278
my 290x gets 60fps 1440p on everything ive been playing recently so im sure a 480 could do it too

>>55663153
Sounds like a fair argument to me, Thanks. I'll go with the 1070. It's not like the extra $300 aud is hard to come by. AUD prices suck though so I might wait a month to see if they drop and then buy. I think I will lean towards the MSi card.

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Nice 970 rebrand. 6% faster on average than 1120mhz RX 480 without boost. Lmao.

>>55663705
SHILL BENCHMARK. IMPOSSIBLE. DELETE PLEASE.

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>>55663705
>AMD's cards are so shit that the drones have to actually lie about the benchmarks to make the card seem a little better
>still loses to 1060 even with the lies

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>>55663777
>I-ITS A L-LIE!
>M-MAKE IT S-STOP!