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GTX 1060 $249

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>1060 will never be $249 they said

Top kek. Damn this card is even better than I thought.
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>>55650298
ITS EVEN $249 IN RETAIL STORES LIKE BESTBUY.
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So should you buy a 1060 or 1070?
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>>55650326
1060 for 1080p 60hz

1070 if you want to go higher
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>>55650298
>back order

p a p e r
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l a u n c h
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>Live in some shithole in europe
>Sapphire 480 8gb 269€
>MSI GTX 1060 Founders edition 369€

Nvidia can choke on my dick
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>>55650342
It was in stock this morning, but sold out in minutes

Hopefully they will get more stock in a few days
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Why does every thread in /g/ need to be about graphics cards? They're not even that interesting
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>>55650368
what would you do on a computer besides posting on 4chan and playing video games?
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>mfw some random ass 1060 costs 350€ here

fuck graphic cards

fuck video games
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>>55650298
to bad im europoor, in my country cheapest gtx1060 is 430euro
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>>55650407
exactly i think wont be guying video card for long time, i really hate these americunts, getting good prices while whole europe gets shit on. Really fuck nvidia and fuck amd to because they cant fucking release custom 480 after fucking 2months card been out.
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1060 = Best value GPU you can possibly buy
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>>55650438
It's almost getting to the point where it's more convenient to buy a fucking console if you're yurop.
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>>55650454
* For DirectX11 games.
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>>55650454
it same price as 980gtx in my country, fucking joke, and 100euro more expensive than 970gtx.
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>>55650492
That includes DX12 as well
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>>55650454
>best value
>performance will tank in a year once nvidia is pushing its replacement
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>>55650544
Uhh no it won't, Nvidia has great support on their cards, unlike AMD
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>>55650298
AMD FANBOYS ON SUICIDE WATCH.

I have bought zotac amp for $280 and for the first time i will own nvidia card, amd fucked up so bad that even old amd fanboys converted to nvidia, dx12/vulkan can't fix anything.
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>>55650342
already ordered my zotac amp gtx 1060 from amazon problem?
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>>55650562
K E K
E
K

look at this good goy
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>>55650562
No they do. It's just not the same after a year or so.
Trust me I'm a doctor.
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>>55650647
Actually Nvidia cards just keep getting faster with driver improvements.
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>>55650691
I think you mean AMD cards. nvidia has been proven to use drivers to reduce card performance when they want to force people onto newer cards.
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>>55650720

Wrong, AMD cards just keep getting worse, while Nvidia ones get improvements.
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>>55650733
Seriously you must be delsuional
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>>55650507
>rise of the tomb raider
>dx12
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>>55650733

You must be a very smart and informed person.
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>>55650733
>He doesn't know about Crimson.
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>no freesync
>outdated displayport with no VR compatibility

y waste ur money?
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>>55650359
They only need to sell 1-2 to make it seem like it sells like hotcakes when it's really just a paper launch. Considering how quickly it took aib partners to push out their versions, it's very likely there aren't many actual 1060 in existence.
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>>55650368
>why does a site populated almost entirely by young males and founded for weeaboos care about something whose main application is video games
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>50% more expensive than 480 in my country
Guess 480 it is then
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>>55650720
nvidia hasn't gimped anything

thing is, nvidia actually releases cards with decent drivers, while AMDrones have to wait a year or two to get decent performance out of their space heater pajeet cards

and let's not talk about REEEEEsync breaking with every fucking driver release
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>>55651414
you nvidiot, anvidia gimps the shit out of all kind s of cards, it's the only way they sell new ones to idiots like you. the list of nvidia ripoffs goes on and on. enjoy your 3.5gb and gimped drivers
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>AMDrones initially called Pascal a house fire because the gtx 1080 FE ran at the mid 80s C
>they had to shut up about that once Polaris was revealed to be a lot less power efficient and run a lot hotter

>AMDrones endlessly shitposted about the gtx 1060 allegedly going to cost an arm and a leg so it wouldn't be competitive with the rx480
>it's actually just $10 more for better performance and power efficiency

Boy do I love watching AMDrones eat their words this generation.
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>>55651481
you mean $50 more, not to mention a paper release
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It's not $249 in the places that matter

http://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1060#xf_top
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>>55650720
I always wondered about this, Is there any proof of Nvidia gimping performance on older cards?
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>>55651481
>people complaining about $800+ dollar cards
vs
>people complaining about $200+ cards

Nice comparison dumbass.
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I'm actually impressed there are some at $250. There are others at super retarded prices including $330 however.
It's a nice thing for all of us, but I would still go for the RX480. Most of the games tested are DX11 and of course it's going to beat the RX480 on them. Vulkan and DX12 are the future, the RX480 will undoubtedly be the better card, moreover with AIBs coming soon; but either choice, the 1060 or RX480, is fine.
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>>55651546
This

I saw some of the benchmarks and it's hilarious how they did stuff like choose battlefield 3 instead of 4 to make the 1060 look more powerful
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>>55651498
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1440_RX+480~653_AMD#xf_top

RX480 here

The price difference alone should make RX480 a much better value for money.

Review "msrp" and real world prices are so much different, and you have to evaluate the cards again in terms of value.

RX480 4GB goes for 250 euro
RX480 8GB goes for 270 euro

GTX1060 goes for 300 euro

Not worth it the price imo
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Is there a single reason to buy a 480 now ?
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>>55651574
DX12/Vukan

Cheaper price.
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>>55651574
Can you afford house heat during winter?
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>>55651574
RX 480 4GB > GTX 1060 > RX 480GB
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>>55651615
8GB*
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>>55650454
wheres the RX480 4GB? On that list it would probably be around 135-140%
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>>55651615
>Price/performance DirectX11
RX480 > GTX 1060 > RX480 8GB

>Price/Performance DirectX12/Vulkan
RX480 > RX480 8GB > GTX 1060

>Average Price/Performance
RX480 > RX480 8GB = GTX 1060
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>>55651414
>thing is, nvidia actually releases cards with decent drivers, while AMDrones have to wait a year or two to get decent performance out of their space heater pajeet cards
Seeing as the cards from both AMD and Nvidia are within 5% of each other in every tier on release, I would pick AMD every time. AMD makes overkill hardware with shitty software. Software is the only thing that can improve a card, and they do improve the software. It's a smart move long-term in every aspect.
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>>55651783
Too bad they're bleeding money and whenever AMD makes cuts, the software guys get let go first.
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>>55651727
>GTX 1060 worse than RX 480 8gb only in meme games

wew
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>>55651833
Longterm future. Its only gonna get more and more support
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>>55651833
You do know most of AAA games will support dx12, right?
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When should we expect them to restock?
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>>55651925
If you're checking casually, months from now on.

If you're like a hawk, either check every hour on sites or nowinstock.com or write a program that alerts you when stock is available by making a program visit, and check for whether or not certain image is available. "add to cart" vs "out of stock" word.
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>>55651856
If you're buying a $250 you're not worrying about the long term.

dx12 and vulkun will not be a factor for a few years still.
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The 1060 hands down dominates the 480 in dx11 and is almost on par with it on DX12, expect for certain titles (tomb raider, ashes of singularity). AMDrones on this site cling to the idea that DX12 and Vulkan are the future but why would one particularly care about that on a ''budget'' card? Let us be honest here, people fucking hate windows 10 and AMD doesn't have enough market share for people to care much about Vulkan either (successor to mantle). I doubt that either DX12 or Vulkan will be any relevant, but lets just assume that they will in 2018/19, realistically. Just think about it, those cards will be worth absolute shit by that time anyway. It's 250 bucks ffs, it's not like you're investing half a fortune in that thing.

Also would the 1060 be a good upgrade for my 680? 1080p still runs on High settings but the card is a blower, so the noise is killing me on load.
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>>55652345
Stock rx480 is about 10% faster than oc'd gtx 1060 in dx12 what are you on about?
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>>55652345
Maybe you can just put up a third party cooler on your 680 ?
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>>55651993
Its a factor right now if you play games like DOOM or Total War: Warhammer.

If we assume 10 games of DX12 per year(there's about 20 games using DX12/Vulkan right now) and 2+ each additional year accumulating due to API usage increase, and assume you intend to keep the card for 3 years, thats about 55 games roughly using DX12/Vulkan in the next 3 years.
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>>55652418
That's not really worth the effort imo. The card doesn't run particularly hot either (about 78-85C) under load. It's not much considering it's age and that I never changed the termal paste.
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>>55652431
How big is that advantage over on DX12? If it's just mere 10% it's not worth those games. Really not trying to fanboy here, but I couldn't care less about getting 55 or 60 fps. Also what about gayworks? How many titles are gonna be released on that?
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>>55652462
I was just saying. 680 is a good card and if you're only annoyed by the noise, it's cheaper to just install a 3rd party cooler.
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>>55652511
Yeah it still runs stuff very solid, but there is another limiting factor for me and that is the 2gb of vram. I really would hold onto this card for longer if I had bought the 4gb version back in the day.
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>1060 will be 980ti performance
>nvidiots
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>>55652496
>goyworks
Not many. Everyone has seen through their lies. Nvidia has done their job already in showing AMD's perceived "driver overheads" with Gameworks.

1060 is about 7% better on DX11 games. Its about 15% worse on DX12/Vulkan games.

10% is the difference between $400 and $800. Aka 980 ti OC vs 1080 OC
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Fuck me sideways yurop pls.
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>>55652817
Isn't that like 100 euro more expensive than AMD shit?
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>back order
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>>55651571
BF3 the cards were closer, BF4 the 1060 is ~25FPS higher

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/11.html
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>>55651722
It's just behind the 1060 at 116% but that's for shitty reference mind.
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>>55652837
Nope, they are at same price
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>>55651546
The funny thing is every Nvidiot will now point at the Time Lie score and say it beats the 480 in DX12 when in gaming it's a slightly different story (Especially if you factor Vulkan into the equation). Kinda pisses me off that 3Dmark sold out to Nvidia like this really. Of course Nvidiots will swear blind there is no issue with that benchmark not fully understanding why it runs the way it does (and no I am not just talking about async compute since there are a lot more factors to consider with DX12 than that and most don't understand what is going on underneath the hood anyhow).
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>>55650353
>live in shithole in Europe
>RX 480 330 euros (reference card)
>GTX 1060 370 euros (cheapest aftermarket)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
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>>55652877

Thats the 8gb model, the 4gb model is cheaper and would indeed top that chart.
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>>55652837
I think the joke is that prices for components are 20-30% higher on this side of the pond for no reason. I just got myself a 1070 and paid the equivalent of 700$ for it in euros. And that's the regular price for it from a store, not some ebay reseller.
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>>55653017
It wouldn't because 4GB lowers performance
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>>55652947
The 1060 does beat the 480 in DX12.
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TFW it's £270
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>>55653036

Not enough to make a difference. Its only a minor memory clock reduction and if you think you need over 4gb at 1080p you are insane.
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Fucking hate this new meme "AMD cards age better". Fuck off, the only reason old cards are seeing improvements is because they are writing the driver to best fit GCN architecture (which cover cards from HD7700 to RX480).
Look at the HD6XXX series and tell me how good it has aged. When they will have a new architecture they will drop support for GCN cards in less than a year.
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>>55652947
what about the other benchmarks?
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>>55652817
Blame the Brits lol
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>>55650342
>1060s literally available in brick in mortar stores
>paper launch

how about you read what it actually means before you spout random shit
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>>55653018
Why didn't you get a 980 ti then? They go for cheaper don't they? They're neck/neck in terms of performance even with OC on both.
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>>55653075
>catzilla
what?
>unigine heaven
oh yes, i love 64x tesselation on every texture regardless of whether it needs it or not.
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>my fucking face when Gtx 1060 costs the same as an RX 480 in Norway

This shit is slightly under 300 euros. It's bonkers, literally no reason to get an AMD card here.
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>>55653107
better?
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>>55653048
I know. But people just take it for granted when there is some shady (atrynsic shady) business going on with that benchmark. You cannot compare apples to pineapples using Time Lie. It uses a broad paintbrush instead of playing to the strengths of both architectures like it should. It punishes GCN by not fully loading the hardware.
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Does the GPU-encoding hardware not change? no benchmarks for that?

>play 9~29hr sets
>wondering if the 1080|60 encode could go faster than 220fps.
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>>55653107
>AMD can't into tesselation
>AMD can't into drivers
>AMD can't into DX11
>RX 480 best card
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>>55653121
>literally no reason to get an AMD card

Pretty much. AMD is dead now.
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>>55650454

in dx11 games, it loses to all- EVERY DX12 game and Vulkan game save Talos.

(yes it even loses in DX12 Tomb raider in the latest patch, reviews that have DX12 tomb raider 480 vs 1060 with the 1060 winning are neglecting to mention they're running on an older version)

Talos Principle is the only game running one of the newer APIs that it legitimately loses to.

DX11 it actually loses in a couple scenarios too, like the division, which is surprising
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>>55653136
Sounds an awful lot like a conspiracy theory to me. The simple explanation is that the Time Spy is fine and the 1060 is actually faster, which is obviously true in games as well.
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>>55653146
>implying you can see the difference between 16x and 64x tesselation
>implying nvidia has drivers
>implying AMD doesn't have DX11 support
it's like you're retarded.
oh gosh look you are.
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>>55653103
>They go for cheaper don't they?
Not around here they don't. Plus the 1070 is slightly more powerful if you believe benchmarks, and supposedly has better cooling due to a "new" generation of cooling solutions.
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>>55653132
>mfw AMD loses in Memes of the Singularity benchmark
How the fuck are they losing in a game endorsed by them.
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>>55650298
>Nvidia say 1070 performs on par with a titan x
>it does
>Nvidia say the 1060 performs on par with a 980
>it does
Nvidia delivers once again
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>>55653180
>RX 480 gets it's ass kicked by a GTX 970 3.5 meme card
>RX 480 can't use tesselation without shitting the bed
>AMD's famous driver support
Don't kid yourself, AMD needs to get it together. Hopefully the aftermarket 480s will be good. And won't fry any motherboard.
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No one said that. What was said is that it will be massively overpriced within a few weeks to a month.

They put this shit out at a low price like this with very low stock. That shit sells out, and they ride that shit for publicity then once people are hype and all the news outlets are praising it, the prices skyrocket.
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>>55653199
Because AMD is officially dead now.
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BRUH
IN A YEAR
THE 480 WILL BE BETTER
IN A YEAR
JUST WAIT MAN
IN 2 YEARS WE WILL SEE FULL DX12 GAMES
JUST WAIT MAN
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>>55653296
nigga you full of shit
everyone said that it was gonna be $300 on launch

every motherfucking amd shill
because thats what you fucking fanboys are at this point
on every fucking forum alll ya said the same garbage
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>falling for the graphics card meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfyaI-ahTr8
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>>55650359
>Hopefully they will get more stock in a few days

It'll be a month or more if the 1070 and 1080 are anything to go by.
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>>55651515
no it's a shitty meme

at worst some games stop getting improvements on older cards but this is expected
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>>55653379
Nope. They said they would be $300 within a month. Also I have an Nvidia card, you retard.
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>>55653431
filtered
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>>55653379
Seriously the AMDtards are looking so so fucking stupid right now. Pretty much everything they said was wrong.
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>>55653416

>1280x720
>less than 25 fps

the fuck is the point of playing games on pc then
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>>55653485
I can get 60fps at 1080p* in Overwatch on integrated graphics. Just you wait, by the time Cannonlake comes out, all you Nvidiots and AMDrones will be on suicide watch.
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>>55653485
Console performance at console graphics for console price.
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>>55653525
wow nice pixels there m80
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>>55650544
>>55650647
>>55650691
>>55650720
>>55650733
>I'm right
>No, I'm right
How about one of you mongoloids post proof or shut up?
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>>55653132
holy kek that's the worst editing i have ever seen.
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>>55652837
Nah, the RX 480 is expensive as fuck in Europe. At least where I live. You pay anywhere between 320 to 400 EUR for one.
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>>55653231

1060 falls short of 980 in any non-VR benchmark and the gap widens if you factor in overclocking headroom of 980 and scale-up the resolution and AA.

1060 is fine, but calling it a 980 killer is Nvidia marketing being disingenuous fucktards.
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>>55653644
Hold your horses for a moment, I don't think it's called the 980 killer. I think it's called 980 performance for less money.

Nobody is going to fucking upgrade from 980 to 1060.
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>>55653624
Too bad it was not an edit huh?

http://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-graphics-card-review/6/
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>>55650298
Considering 3rd parties actually had a good portfolio its no wonder, semms like
A. They bet all their horses on the 1060
or
B. Nvidia realized they can jew people as hard as they want with high end cards so they wont allow 3rd parties to compete with them
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>>55652995
Buy the rx 480 from brit bong land, I saw one for £170 that's like 200ish euros
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D-DELET THIS NOW
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The 960 wasn't even competitive and it still sold a lot. The 1060 pretty much trades blows with the 480 and is priced competitively too, so combined with Nvidia's brand image advantage, AMD is LITERALLY finished and bankrupt.
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>>55653765
Yeah pretty much. I'd say it's even worse. The 1060 is objectively faster than the 480 in the majority of games and it's only $10 more. There is no reason to buy a 480 at all anymore.
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>>55653525
that must be the worst texture filtering () i've ever seen
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>>55652817
>fingolia
thats why, in the UK is cheaper
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>>55651458
If that was really the case, my 670 would not be able to push 30fps on Witcher 3 ultra 1080p.
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Literally same price in Italy
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>>55652866
Bf4 dx11
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>>55652866
Dx11 vs a 480 running dx11 instead of using mantle
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>>55650298

Why is the EVGA version so much shorter?
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>>55653525
render scale 10% lmao
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>>55652866
See below

480 performs best with dx12, aka the future

It outperforms the 1060 every time
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>>55653793
Except how the 1060 underperforms on dx12 and 4k
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>>55654229
This is just the beginning, noVidiafags.
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Do people still take TTL seriously?

The amount of shilling in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOiFINgwyM

The amount of shilling in this thread

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=76984

Why do people worship this fucking idiot? All he does is hide behind a nice guy act and retards defend him.
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>>55654162
mantle is dead bro
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>>55654229
>hitman
>AMD sponsored game
Who would have guessed
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>>55654162
How are you going to compare mantle on the 480 to mantle on the 1060?
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>>55654229
>Hitman
No fucking shit sherlock, this game is intentionally AMD-biased
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>>55654280
Mantle was incorporated into dx12 dumb dumb

Bf4 uses mantle but you can force dx11
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>>55654229
Is hitman the new game AMDrones cherry pick for benchmarks?
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>>55654229
>1fps
alright but what about the rx 480 cons? the power issues, the high temperatures, nobody knows when the fucking aftermarket cards are coming, i'm tired of waiting guys
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>>55654304
No idiot it is dx12 based, which incorporates mantle which means all future dx12 games will run better with amd
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>>55654229
>480 performs best with dx12
Yeah, it does. In one game.
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>>55654327
>>55654334
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>>55654310
Not a lot of dx12 to choose from atm
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> MFW the 1060 gets almost double the perf/watt of the 480 in AAA linux games

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nv-linux-gtx1060&num=4
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>>55654229
480 is dead until aftermarket cards are released. The only ones who'll settle for sub-par reference cards are buttcoin miners.
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>>55654229
>gets shit on in BF4 20+ fps difference
>performs best with dx12
>0.7+ fps

I want to believe but this card is a massive fucking disappointment

Seriously considering the 1060 now
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>even better
>loses to a cheaper amd 480 card
>future games will actually perform better on the cheaper amd card
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>>55654436
>future games will actually perform better on the cheaper amd card

What makes you think that?
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>>55654534
dx12 + vulkan. its not a thought, its a fact. also performs better on higher resolutions and no 300$ gsync tax needed.
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>>55654552
>DX12
But the 1060 is faster in every DX12 game except Hitman and that will most likely change with a driver update.

>Vulcan
One game currently uses Vulcan. We have no idea if any other game will use it and even if they do Nvidia might be just as good when they optimize for it.
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>aftermarket models are 500 DOLLARYDOOS
>xfx ref model for the 8gb 480 is $379

Australia
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>>55654229
Thats DX11 version
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>>55654552
>>55654528
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>>55650298
I want to know how those minis perform.

Are they considerably worse in cooling than the full cards? Would it only matter if you are manually overclocking it?
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>>55654589
Literally what dx12 game

Hitman is the only dx12 game they've benchmarked the 1060 on
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>>55654769
Go look at reviews
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>>55654229
>muh amd is better on hypothetical future games

Let's be real here: if you are buying a midrange card, you are going to be playing a whole lot of old games.

Let's not even mention how the 480 lost to the 1060 in fucking Ashes of the Singularity, THE one game AMD benchmarks shine in.
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>>55654769
Not him but
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>>55654742
The EVGA mini actually performs better than reference.
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>>55654769
see >>55653132
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>>55654360
AMD's technology is so far behind Nvidia at this point, there is no way they can catch up.
>>
>RX480 draws ~50w extra and only out performs the 1060 in Vulkan (because of async) and some DX12 stuff (which still isn't the standard yet)

How did they fuck it up so badly?

Are AMD even trying anymore?

Are they just letting nvidia take over the market so they can charge whatever they like?
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>>55654839
Forgot the part where it also runs 20c hotter under load.
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>>55654861
Well that's implied by the extra power draw, but yeah.
>>
>>55653169
I don't even know where to start with this fuckwit.
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>>55650455
PS3 FIVE NINETY NINE! ($599) FIVE NINE NINE

EU prices $899...
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>>55654802
>GoyWorks
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>>55654839
Even ignoring the fact that vulkan/dx12 is peering into a crystal ball and having a wank. Shadowplay makes the 1060 a far better deal. There's just no AMD benefit that compares with letting me stream and play co-op with poorfag friends that don't even own/*can run the games we are playing.
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>>55654802
>shitty dx12 port of console made possible by nvidia partnership

>console has async compute enabled
>pc has it disabled
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>>55654589
Source engine uses Vulcan, at least DOTA 2 does. Its feasible that any modern linux game will use Vulcan.

But that ultimately depends on the quality of the port and driver support for Linux.
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>>55654953
>Linux
>>
I have a 960. What card should I upgrade to?

If i go with AMD, i feel like im joining the rebels in starwars.
If i go with NVIDIA, i feel like im joining the imperials.
If i keep my card, i feel like im a fucking ewok.

If i just sell my card and stop playing PC games, what does that make me?
>>
>>55654997
Just buy the better card (1060).
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>>55654997
Going with AMD makes you a poorfag who didn't do his research.

Every other option is whatever.
>>
>>55654997
This is just personal but since the 1060 runs much cooler and presumably quieter, that'd be a huge bonus to me.

So right now i'm leaning towards the 1060 unless some really good reviews of third party 480s come out.
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>>55654897
No, I don't know in what bum fuck country you live but usually it goes like this
€1 = $1

And the PS3 was not $899 (€678 in March 2007) but $793 (€599 in March 2007)

You could really really get upset at prices in 2011 when the dollar was at an all time low opposite the euro.

Nowadays with the European Central Bank pumping euros like crazy and with Brexit you got even less ground to bitch about prices.

Don't even get me started on taxes which are not shown in those American retail prices.
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>>55650353
Can someone explain explain the different editions? I don't /v/
>>
>AMD announce recommended price
>All shops charge much more
>Nvidia announce recommended price
>All shops suddenly hug to recommended one

Im not fan of either side, but it smell fishy as hell.

Like if shops actually took Nvidia side for some reason and decide to torpedo AMD plan to take mid-market.
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>>55655117
Google highest tax in the world.

A PS4 500GB today is $408 here.
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>>55650298
>AMD used to have 80000 RX 480 preorders this morning
>now it's a ghost town
>>
>>55655163
RIP AMD
>>
Less than 20000yen more expensive than the cheapest RX480 and with aftermarket coolers already.

GTX1060 wins this round.
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>>55655237
Did I say 20000yen? I meant 2000yen.
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>>55650298
A M D B T F O
>>
Let me know when I can buy a 1080 for $650 or less and I'll care.
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>>55655162
In France a PS4+game+gamepad goes for €359 ($395)

$40 more than American retail (without taxes)

I know about taxes in different regions of the world.
My point is:
In 2016 you don't have enough ground to bitch at € retail price as you did in 2011.
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>>55655437
I don't use € where I live so that's not related to me.

The $408 is for the 500GB PS4, without any extra game.
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>>55655450
Why did you reply to >>55655117 (me) then when >>55654897 said
>EU prices
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>>55653609
faggot
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>>55655478
Because prices in EU have higher tax in general compared to US, us having the highest.
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>>55653036
Good thing you can flash all the 4GB cards to 8GB. The 4GB ref is a steal because of that.
>>
Is any brand particularly better or should I just go for whatever's in stock?
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>>55655564
Everything is sold out.
>>
>>55655503
I really don't understand where you're getting at.

Are you in any way contradicting
>>55655437
>In 2016 you don't have enough ground to bitch at € retail price as you did in 2011.
?
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>>55655590
obviously, but I mean when they eventually aren't
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Reminder that Nvidia always leads in performance at launch but all their optimization is up front with no room to improve. You won't get the longevity with the 1060 like you will the 480. This will probably be especially true now because of GCN being superior with DX12/Vulkan.
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>>55655609
dat 780 same performance as 280X

KEK

AMD moved 1 tier up.

In 2-3 years time, RX480 will be equivalent to GTX 1070 performance.
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>>55655609
You are really bad at math, those are graphs of relative performance.
>>
>>55655609
anyone not buying the rx 480 now as a hold over till both sides release HBM cards is pretty stupid
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>>55655483
Those numbers are 100% bullshit.
>>
>>55655654
Lmao, facts are presented and NoVideo drones still can't handle it. The 780ti bullshit is known by a lot of people. You are a retard. kys
>>
>>55655643
Did I make a note of percentage? No. You clearly missed the point where the 780 Ti among other tiers as >>55655638 pointed out had Nvidia in the lead.
>>
Cheapest aftermarket card goes for 380$ in Israel which is practically a bargain, far better priced than the 480 or 970.
>>
>>55655672
>kys
Fuck off back to YouTube,
>>
Cool, but it's still slower than the r9 290 I bought for $182 nearly 3 years ago.

What kind of retarded thinks $250 for a low end card is a great deal?
>>
>>55655698
No proper rebuttal.
I guess buyer's remorse is a bitch, eh?
>>
>>55650298
Wait PNY is making an aftermarket 1060.

Whew lad, let me get my wallet.
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>tfw visa return in November
>tfw when prices will stabilize
>tfw drivers will mature,Bf5 will be out, and performance ranking will be established
>tfw my 7850 2gb from launch will have a honourable discharge

Yay me.
>>
>>55655743
Are PNY cards good?
>>
>>55650507
Beats only in rise of the tomb raider a cheaper $200 card and gets rekt in all other titles
>>
I ordered a Zotac 1060 Amp, is this a good brand?
>>
>>55655758
Yeah, they make the bulk of Quadro cards.
They're extremely good at making cards without meme features.
>>
>>55655826
zotac is one of the best nvidia vendors after evga and msi. really cheap but have top quality coolers and features.
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>>55655851
Kool kool, I guess I did good then
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What to buy /g/?
Prices in NZD
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Is gainward a good vendor?
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>>55654327
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DELETE THIS
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>>55650298
I will get the msi
>>
Should I get a 1060 or wait for the Saphire 480 Nitro? If 1060, which one should I get?
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>>55650298
>meanwhile in yurop
these prices makes me feel like I'm living in Monte Carlo or smth.
>>
>>55656866
1060

I like the evga, it's so comfy.
>>
>>55655960
the gigabyte 1060 obviously
>>
>>55655818
Uhh that's against the $240 8GB 480.
>>
>>55655672
>facts

Yeah interesting, those are not facts, that is some graph an autist made up in his head.

AMDrones grasping at straws because their products suck ass.
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>>55655672
unknown chart with random percentages that backs shill viewpoint + no sources = 100% bull shit.
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>>55655999
They're a smaller company I think, not as reputable as others
>>
are there disadvantages to the mini size one? that's the only one left in stock here
>>
>>55658914
>mini

that's the actual size of it. the reference is longer because of the blower cooler overhanging the pcb. the smaller ones are actually better coolers too like the evga one.
>>
>>55658914
mini should be good especially if it's evga. do a search for reviews though if you want to be sure.
>>
So, I decided to go with a 1060. Will it last me a couple years?
>>
>>55659169
if you do 1080POO games
480 is more longlasting due to games starting to drop dx11
realistically they're both great cards for 1080p but 1060 is the awkward spot in the middle of 1440 and 1080
I personally would get the cheapest after market 480, the nitro is apparently releasing the 22nd
>>
>>55659169
My 970 is two years old and still going strong
>>
>>55659169
Should do. Both the 480 and 1060 won't last more than like 2 years anyway as games get more demanding and devs start catering for the more powerful gpus (like mirrors edge hyper settings) and the new ps4k and xbox scorpio which look to be way more powerful than the current peasant tier console hardware which allows us all to still use shitty cards like the 380 or 960 even today. That won't last very long though because of the more powerful consoles like I said.
>>
>>55659148
So the length of the PCB between the regular card is the exact same as the ones with a single fan?
>>
>look for a gtx 1060
>back ordered

>look for an rx 480
>back ordered

>keep checking every day for the next several months
>back ordered

Fuck this gay earth. I want to chuck my gtx 960 into the dumpster NOW.
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Gigabyte ended the fanboy wars.
Their AMD cards are Goyworks and SLI capable.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5956#kf
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>>55659234
>480 is more longlasting due to games starting to drop dx11
How can that be when the 1060 performs better than the 480 in DX12?
>>
>>55659271
Yes I believe so
>>
>>55659277
nowinstock.net
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>>55659294
because the cards don't cost the same price you silly billy
>more expensive card is better hur dur
well of course
and only in select dx12 titles
doesn't mean anything when your monitor is capped at 60hz
and the rx 480 is plenty capable of this
although I would still stay away from the reference card
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In a near future...
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>>55659320
That's what I've been using. Cards are sold out in <2 minutes. I literally load the page, add the item to my cart, click on checkout, and the card is already sold out.
>>
I can't wait to see adoredtv's full on damage control over the 1060 being superior to the 480. He'll probably only test hitman and doom vulkan and be like "the 480 has a strong lead over the 1060 in these 2 games so I'll just assume it's better overall, now buy the 480 and donate some money to amd whilst you're at it"
>>
>>55650298
RIP AMD. AMD would've had a chance if the 480 Aftermarkets came out by now but it's ogre. What can AMD do to legitimately combat this?

>literally only $10 cheaper
>losing in DX11 and pretty much neck to neck in DX12
>less power efficient
>only advantage is async
>cheap goflo silicon can't even overclock
>pcie issue fucked marketing from the get go

AMD is in a real pickle, Pascal's "moar clocks" is paying off. I really hope AMD can pull something off to unfuck this situation for themselves. I pity them so much I might just buy a 470 to pay respects.
>>
>>55659353
Also try New Egg and bhphoto notifications directly on their site

I got a 1070 from new egg this way, they notified me immediately
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truth.
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>>55659466
Legit
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>>55655483
Whats more reasonable?

Nvidia killed the performance of their own cards.

Or

AMD improved their performance using driver improvements.
>>
>>55650298
DELELTE THIS.
>>
>>55650298
Can it handle 1600p? Thinking of getting it as an upgrade to my HD5870, having no drivers really sucks. Thanks AMD...
>>
This is a test
>>
>>55659926
christ you're a fucking fool
upgrade your monitor or kys
>>
>>55659957
>upgrade your monitor or kys

he's at 1600p already, what's he supposed to upgrade his monitor to, 4k?
>>
>>55650334
1070 for 1200p 60hz it is.
>>
>>55650389
Watch porn
>>
>>55650389
Watch anime and porn
>>
which one is more future proof?
>>
>>55660597
The 1160
>>
>>55660597
As I see it;
Nvidia for better pref right now
AMD for better pref later

Maybe a R9 390x for 250 bucks is a good deal.
>>
>>55654802
>It literally say 'Nvidia. The way it's meant to be gimped' on the startup screen.
>>
>>55660597
1060
>>
>>55660597
the 480, for dx12 and 8GB vram. You're still probably better off with the 1060, deliberately trying to future proof almost never works the way you want it to. By the time DX12 because a big enough issue to make the 480 worth it, the GTX 1260 or rx680 or whatever will come along to blow it out of the water.
>>
>>55650298
they are 30% more expensive here than 480 though, and only 6% faster =>not worth it
>>
>>55661362
I guess it depends on your region. There are some places where the 1060 is even cheaper than the 480.
>>
>>55654925
>There's just no AMD benefit that compares with letting me stream

Now, what world is this we're living in. Who cares about random nobodies streaming their shitty games? Pretty egoistic to think somebody gives a shit about your streams. Why is this even a thing? You're just wasting bandwidth and computing power for nothing.
>>
Planning to buy a Benq gaming monitor looking at also buying a new graphics card and upgrade my PSU to support both graphic card & monitor... any recommendations?

I was planning to buy 1080 however don't really feel like spending over 1,100 (Aus dollar)
>>
It's £249.99 for the Nitro+ 480 or £299.99 for the MSI 1060. I looked at all the other 1060's and did not want any of them (well maybe if there had been a nice EVGA perhaps if it was a bit lower priced but all I saw was the mini).

For those few fps difference which will probably be optimized for later on in driver updates or discounted by the overclock on the Nitro+ I went with the Nitro+ instead.
>>
That evega has my attention. Short card evega fag here.
>>
>>55661395
Nvidia streamers all want to be earning dollaroos like Pewdie Pie does. Never gonna happen though. It's the streaming fat kids generation though so what do I know.
>>
>>55653199
Nvidia's going all out on the shilling is how
>>
>>55654997
Buy a sapphire nitro 480 when it comes out
>>
>>55655644
HBM cards are coming out in like 4 months, why would you buy a 480 or 1060 now?
>>
>>55661692
I actually stream amd don't take donations at all. Usually have a blast with the people who end up watching and chatting with me.

Also fuck poodpie
>>
>>55659400
They sell the 480 8GB for $200 instead of $240

The fact they were already selling 480 8GB's with the extra 4GB's disabled for $200 shows that they've actually got a very large window they can price in.

In a year the 480 8GB'll probably be $170 or less.

Right now they just need to keep units in stock. Once both are in stock, an AMD price drop should come along.
>>
>>55660597
480 no contest

Better vulkan/dx12 support, and AMD cards historically improve over time with driver updates while nvidia cards languish.
>>
>>55661449
Buy the 1070. I am from Aus too and the 1070 was a good middle ground for great performance/dollar
>>
POOJEET ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>
Is it finally time to sell my beloved 780 for a 1080?
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>>55650342
Half an hour after release.
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>mfw dx12
>>
I want EVGA's 1060 SC, thing looks like my 750Ti. I'd buy a 1080p first.
>>
HOW DO WE STOP THEM BROS

HOW COULD NVIDIA DO THIS TO US??

JUST LET US HAVE THE MIDRANGE MARKET PLEASE
>>
>>55663722
I was considering that since it's cheaper than the rx 480 in Aus but it sold out within the first 20 mins of being on pccasegear.
>>
>>55663773
That happened basically everywhere with every card that wasn't overpriced.

We knew when the NDA would be lifted though, so anyone who wanted one at release only have themselves to blame if they didn't get one.
>>
>>55661395
>>55661692

Are you both stupid, anons? Gameshare lets me stream a game for a friend and they in turn can play it. We use it to do online co op in shit that would normally be local co-op only like Gangbeasts and Crimsonland.
>>
>>55664042
go kill yourself you dumb retard
>>
>>55664053
>BTFO
>k-kill yourself
>>
>$424 + 18% VAT
>>
>>55653627
It's 200-250 in the netherlands faggot
>>
>people forgetting about the g-sync tax
lel enjoy paying 150+ extra faggots
>>
>>55653056
gta5
modded games
shadow of mordor
siege

im forgetting a few that eat over 4gb of ram at 1080p, there aren't

mirrors edge

remembered it, there aren't many but there are more coming that will eat over 4gb at 1080p
>>
Is 1440p a big enough step over 1080p to warrant buying a new panel and more expensive graphics card?
>>
>>55650298
This will force price drops on the custom 480's lel
>>
>>55664197
pretty sure it wont at all
those are already backorders inside a day already meaning the stock is so low that even hubble cant see it
>>
>>55664185
If you don't have lots of money buy one at a time, new gpu first then a few months later buy a 1440p monitor.
>>
>>55664185
Don't cheap out on the monitor. Get the Asus 279 IPS panel
>>
>>55664093
rofl where
>>
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Apparently Newegg is an idiot at website design and apparently a 1060 is being filtered as a 1070... still in stock as a result I guess.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402
>>
>>55664342
>amd shills are this deep in denial
LMAO
>>
>>55664342
I really want the Sapphire 480 Nitro but I might have to get the 1060 because they work better in a mini itx case.
I was really hype for the 480 too. Why couldn't AMD get their shit together just once?
>>
>>55664447
how do they work better?
do they magically get more fps on a mini itx?
>>
>>55664520
less housefire
>>
>>55664526
kek its getting old as shit you might wanna find another excuse
>>
>>55664534
Nope. RX480 still
>draws more power
>runs hotter
>performs worse
than GTX1060

And now you can add
>costs more
to the list
>>
>>55664579
kek nice shilling going on there..

wait let us see how 1060 is doing on vulcan dx12..

oh right
its slower
with pretty much the same temp
has a terrible cooler
boost clock cant be maintened for more than 10 mins
and last but not least it will be MIA on 2 months
>>
whats the best choice for 1080p 120hz?
>>
>>55664781
1080 gtx
>>
>>55650454
for DX11 games and if you can actually got it for this price, which is not the case in my country.
>>
Think those little GTX 1060's will heat up too much?
>>
>>55665178
Reviews of the tiny EVGA model with a single fan are showing at 73C under load.
>>
>>55665406
dB(A)?
>>
280€ for a Palit GTX 1060 6GB here in germany, fuck these kikes.
>>
>>55660249
More like 1440p
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