RX 480 vs. GTX 1060

>>55649079
You can buy the card for 250$ already

>>55649079
Gtx 1060, because no one plays ashes of the singularity.

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>>55649108
no one plays RTS games in general

The 480 is supposed to be $200.
If you buy it for more than $250 you're getting jewed.
But people still don't realise this, thinking that it's such an amazing card it has value even with $100 extra put on

It's like; No you fucking idiots stop buying it at $350 are you retarded

>>55649129
yuro here i bought msi 1070 for $603 with no regrets. 2 years ago i also bought 970 for around $500. it's just the way it is. buy the fucking gpu and enjoy it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125879&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL071916&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL071916-_-EMC-071916-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14125879-S0B

$250

>>55649176
Where the fuck do you live
Austrian here, just bought my MSI 1070 for around 500 euros. For my 970 shortly after it came out I paid 350, but the euro was a lot stronger at that time

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>>55649127
But more importantly, literally nobody plays ashes

>>55649176
You spent a total of 1100$, when you could've just bought a 980ti from the get-go for cheaper than those two combined, and still have the same performance you do now.

Nvidia might be assholes, but they fully know their business model works because of retards like you.

>>55649205
Oh wow if all 1060's are at around that price then Nvidia has won

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>launch day
>nvidia shits the bed yet again on supply

color me shocked

>>55649248
Because the 980 Ti came out at the same time as the 970 you fucking retard

>>55649251
$310 for Asus here in Czechia

480 cost same

>>55649274
>justifying spending money for no reason
You knew the ti would come shortly after, just like you know the ti version will come in a couple months to the 1000 series. You're just not good with money, admit it.

>>55649079
It barely beats rx 480.

I'll stay with AMD this time.

>>55649114
>amd dead
> 10 cents lose in stock price
>still over valued by 2 dollars more


you are a retard please go back to /v/

>>55649324
I'm not even that guy, but that's like saying he'd be retarded getting the Ti because he knows a year later the next series'll be out
There's always something better coming on the horizon, except when you are an AMD fan I guess

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>>55649299
How it looks in Portugal

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Hooo wee boyz, there is a RX 480 for 219€ where I'm buying, +20€ shipping, should I go for it? I think I could sell and replace my GTX 950.

>>55649247
But people play DOOM.

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>filename related
This is how it looks like in finland

>>55649507
Nobody has compared the RX 480 and the 1060 in DOOM yet. Richard from Digital Foundry said that they would test both cards in DX12, so we'll see how they compete then.

>>55649396
RX480 for 285€ or GTX1060 for 275€ in Slovakia. I'll wait a few months and get the OC GTX1060 for a decent price. AMD is done here, there are not going to sell shit with these prices.

>>55649079
Also add these

>1060 beats 480 in
Doom OpenGL mode

>480 beats 1060 in
Doom vulkan mode/async mode
Total War: Warhammer DX12 mode

1060 is bad
480 is new
pick your poison

1080p the rest doesn't even matter.

why even care if you're running low end single gpus, running SLI/crossfire benchmarks is where it's at

>>55649615
You can't SLI GTX 1060

Its a new feature Nvidia gives us.

>>55649614
>>55649523
Both cards do 1080p at high or ultra. At this point, it comes down to which one is cheaper for you, get that one.

>>55649592

Those prices are outrageous, as an expat European paying dollar prices, GPUs are so expensive and rare in europe, they need a european factory and tariffs asap

Americans wouldn't have any sense of the value of the euro but that's simply outrageous especially for eastern europe

around 10 years go the same market segment card would be half price, the US market is just so strong for tech and the commercial enterprise usages driving it

Where the fuck can I buy this card? When I look, only best buy has it and it's sold out.

>>55649703
All new cards are sold out.

Its upgrade season for most people

>>55649703
It is a paper launch.
It won't be generally available until end of august.

>>55649695
Well, GTX1060 MSRP is $250, which is 271€ with VAT. RX480 has MSRP $240, or 262€. Only AMD prices are unreasonable.
But yes, that pretty much more than a half of the minimal wage here.

>>55649721
Plenty of them are available in Europe, the cheapest and the most expensive one at least.

>>55649079
All of these release day 1 reviews do not include DOOM because Nvidia provided a list of games that were allowed to be tested and DOOM was not included because it would reflect poorly on the 1060.

>>55649817
None of them sell for MSRP, that's the point. They sell for much higher, even past the value with VAT included.

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>>55649902
This is why.

>>55649976
GTX1060 is 4€ more than MSRP. They have no obligation to sell at MSRP.

>>55650111
Yep

>>55649114
my mum bought me a 660 when I was 12 and I've been a loud obnoxious fanboy ever since

>>55649079
We can guess that the average for RX480 and 1060 is about 7% in favor of nVidia in DX11 titles and games that use no async computes.

The reverse becomes true once DX12/Vulkan/Async are taken into account. (32% difference in DOOM, 19% difference in Hitman, 9% difference in Ashes of Singularity, 5% in Total War: Warhammer)

So games have to make a choice between DX11/OpenGL and DX12/Vulkan. Between the old API and the new API.

What a fucked up dilemma

>>55649639
Can Sli but multi-adapter should work isn't it?

>>55650256
*can't sli

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>>55649079
>can't even SLI the 1060

>>55650256
Multi-adapter and custom-game dev specific sli would work. But nvidia doesn't support it.

Its all up to developers of the game to use their own code or the DX12/Vulkan multi-adapter code.

I'm hoping that nvidia's new "no-sli" feature forces developers to actually use DX12 multi-adapter feature.

>>55650288
Well sli and crossfire scales pretty bad compared to multi-adapter where we've seen up to 95% scaling so i hope so.

>>55649127
sad but true

Amazon prices are scalped you fucking retards. MSRP for 1060 is $249, which is evident by the manufacturer sites: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6161-KR

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>>55650111
Holy shit jewidia btfo

>>55650196
Well? Are you buying a GPU for the next 2/3 years? Or for the past 2/3 years?

I personally don't give a shit about getting 70fps rather than 60fps in current games but I like to know that my GPU will still pull its weight in 3 years.

I seen no reason to get a 1060, at all. It's a dud.

Why does AMD choose to be so bad?

>>55651435
>shilling fake benchmarks

>>55651704
Are you retarded or something?

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AMD is finished!

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>mfw Linus cuck tips reviewed the 1060 in DX11 only

keep /v/ shit in >>>/v/

Nobody buys the standard GTX 1060.
The overclocked GTX 1060s are superb.

In Germany the GTX 1060 is more expensive than the RX480, not a surprise.

Each to their own.
If you want an energy-efficient card, you get the GTX 1060.

If you want to spend less money, the RX480.

>>55649272
At least they didn't pull one of AMD's clusterfucked paper launches

>>55651861
There are no "standard GTX 1060"

There are FE GTX 1060 (higher binned) and aftermarket 1060 (normal binned).

I suspect higher binned aftermarket will come months later.

>>55649129
>The 480 is supposed to be $200.

It's not though.

>>55652024
Its consistently $199 for the 4GB model.

>>55652045
>reference
>4gb

'no'

>>55652055
4GB is actually 8GB with bios hack

>>55652077
It's not though.

>>55652088
https://www.techpowerup.com/223913/amd-retail-radeon-rx-480-4gb-to-8gb-memory-unlock-mod-works-we-benchmarked

>>55650111
Since I am playing Doom right now (well in those moments I feel like it as I am not an obsessive gamer) this was just one thing influenced my buying decision. The others were price. Performance overall. Longevity (DX12 and Vulkan are not going away and Time Lie is full of shit btw). VRAM for large textures. Added value like Sapphire's removable fans and lengthy warranty. Basically several factors weigh in the Nitro+'s favor. At least for me in the UK. Also Nvidia still probably has that 23,976Hz/fps but to my HDTV where I have to set a fucking custom profile to get it to show movies correctly.

>>55652247
>but=bug
fixed

>>55649079
You forgot
>GTX1060 doesn't blow up your mobo

>>55651905
>There are FE GTX 1060 (higher binned)
There is nothing different about he Founder's Edition.
They are not higher binned.
They are not special.
They do not have a better cooler.
http://www.pcgamer.com/what-exactly-is-nvidias-gtx-1080-founders-edition/

>>55652347
>Not knowing how to download a driver update
>Not waiting for AIB cards anyway

>>55652444
>believing FUD in the first place

>>55652424

Fanboys overlook one interesting detail on the reference 1060s.

It doesn't use a standard 6-pin power connector on the PCB which means you have to resort to wire spicing if you want to use third-party HSF solutions and waterblocks.

AiB 1060 will certainly opt for the standard 6-pin/8-pin PCIe power connector.

Founder Editions = Buttfucked No-lube Edition

which one is better for overwatch

>>55649817
I dont know how they are selling for 275euro in Slovakia in Lithuania cheapest 1060gtx is 424euro. Fucking joke.

The RX480 is getting slaughtered at their current price point in Europe.
Cheapest 8GB reference is 269€.
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1440_RX+480

You can get a good custom GTX 1060 for 279€.
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1060#xf_top

Either AMD partners hurry up with their cards or retailers have to massively slash prices to compete.

>>55650196
Think i'll choose a non ref 480 and play now games decently and future games even better.

>>55653800
>buying a card from a bankrupt company

Hope you didn't want drivers for that.

i think for europoors like me its best idea to buy from ze germans desu, in germany its like 150euro cheaper then in my country some fucking joke alright.

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this seems decent should i?

>if you are on a tight budget get the rx 480 for $200
>otherwise get the 1060 for slightly more fps and lower power consumption for $50 more

/thread

>>55649079
So the 1060 beats 480 in goyworks titles. What a surprise!!!

>>55653691

>Founder Editions = Buttfucked No-lube Edition

Isn't that usually the case?

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The gtx 1060 cost around 400 to 450 euro. What kind of jew shit is this. For another 50 i can get a gtx 1070 easily.

>>55654128
buy from ze germans
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1060#xf_top

thats what im planning to do, shipping is like 15-20euro

>>55654160
Keep in mind that none of the cards at the 279€ price point are in stock anymore. Most retailers also don't have a date when they restock.

>>55654273
what i find strange how nvidia is already selling custom 1060 for same price as RX480 stock and there is no custom RX480, wtf? Why we must wait 1month for custom RX480

>>55649079
>Nvidia's cards perform better, are more power efficient, and are cooler, overclock better but are more expensive

>AMD cards perform worse, are less power efficient, run hotter but are cheaper.

Rince and repeat every generation of graphics cards for the last 4 years.

>>55654324
21st was the date something somewhere pointed for the Sapphire version. August for the ASUS version, who knows.

>>55654160
What kind of shady ass place is that. Obv scams..

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>>55653701
The RX 460 at $99

or the 470 is probably going to end up being the performance per dollar king

>>55651766
That channel is horrible with it's reviews, it has a huge team with tons of resources at their disposal, and they just dribble out the most barebones videos

isn't quite as bad as Austin though, does he even make videos longer than 5 minutes?

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>>55649902
>>55650111
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2518-nvidia-gtx-1060-review-and-benchmark-vs-rx-480/page-4

>>55654528
doom still doesnt have vulkan pascal drivers though, so benchmark at this point is pretty unfair in terms of comparisons.

>>55654545
>doom still doesnt have vulkan pascal drivers though
Just like nvidia was supposed to release A-sync drivers for maxwell? It's probably not coming, even if it does, it would probably only end up 10% more at best, about matching the 480

>>55654528
>Vulkan without async compute
Nice showcase

>>55654597
No AA = A-sync on

>>55654618
Yes thats a fact.

That fact and the benchmark fact are not same. Benchmark doesn't show anything about that.

Chances are its using SMAA or some other AA.

>http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4

This is TSSAAx8 Nightmare setting with 1080p. Average is higher than the "no AA" aka a SMAA benchmark.

>>55654596
doom devs are working on it themself with nvidia. i Would bet it will be around 15-20% improvement.

>>55654720
K-e-K

Do i have to install Botnet10 to take advantage of DX12 performance?
how do they perform in older games?

>>55655145
Both AMD and nvidia cards are fine for older cards. nVidia cards perform better for older architecture. AMD cards perform better on newer architecture.

DX12 runs only on botnet.
Vulkan runs on all platforms that implements support.

Dual 1060s running ashes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzOrsQM7ImA

>>55649093
>You can buy the card for 250$ already
lol k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwlPmLRpiU

>>55652088
It is.

Got a 4GB reference for $170 on Prime day on Amazon. Flashed it to a 8GB card. I'm happy. Also I plan to crossfire so 1060 is out of the question for me since they decided to jew out there.

>>55655496
>AMDrones willfully ignoring the hundreds that already bought their cards

>>55655614
you clearly didn't watch the video
ignorant NVidiots

>>55655614
>hundreds
>never in stock in the first place

>>55654528

They don't even list what settings they are using - I would bet good money that aren't using TSSAA for doom.

>>55649079
>Reference GPU's
nope

There's no winner yet. Wait for the factory OC'd cooler non-reference cards to drop.

>>55655408
Glad to see multi-adapter working without the need of sli/cf, now both technologies can die in peace.

>>55649079
The 1060 hands down.
I always buy for backwards compatibility and OpenGL performance.

And I won't switch to Windows 10 whatever happens.

>Nvidia wins in DX11
>AMD wins in DX12/Vulkan

As expected. I will rather have better performance for the newer APIs than the older ones, RX470 it is for me. When's that supposed to be coming out anyway?

>>55656996
>Nvidia wins in DX11 which are 99% of the market

>AMD wins in DX12/Vulkan which are 1% of the market (like 2-3 games)

fify

>>55657108
DX12 and Vulkan are the future while DX11 is the past.

>2-3 games are using DX12/Vulkan

ecks dee! I recommend not living under a rock, my boy.

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>>55657108
lmao

In the end with all the bullshit around DX12 and vulkan I got a question

Which are the games using DX12 or vulkan that are reliable ?
I heard a lot of games had shit ports or bugs.

>>55657129
Literally 3 games are using Vulkan, and up to 15 are using DX12. Some of them not exclusively.

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>>55657167
>Nvidia is better at Witcher 3!

>>55657203
Any relevant game that's started production after the introduction of Vulkan and DX12.

Seriously it doesn't matter which one gets picked - a developer would be pants on head retarded or hopelessly dependent on pajeet coders to not drop the old standards.

>>55650111
Holy shit I'm a retard so I don't know what this is called, but why does the RX 480's FPS fluctuate so much?

And wouldn't that be perceivable in game?

480 still gets my vote, because even when it loses, it does so by a few frames. They two cards are basically dead even for the most part, which makes the AMD part better value for money.

>>55658787
The reviewer said it looked better on rx480. Even with the variance.

>>55657294
F

>>55657289
I wanted Vulkan to happen, but it's becoming the next OpenGL. Nobody except a couple dev houses will use it. DX is just more familiar to everyone, and nobody has to learn an entire API.

>>55655496
Good video thanks for posting

>>55655614
lol you silly guy

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Amazon prime is neat ain't it.

Where are your non-reference 480s?

>>55649079
>The RX 480 beats the 1060 in: nothing
Who didn't see this coming?

>>55659730
They're close to launch, one of the ASUS models even has an 8+6 pin power design

Bitches don't realize they delayed the non-ref 480's so they could tweak them up to beat the 1060's. Partners competing against other partners and themselves for a double dip. It's pure marketing.

>the 1060 rivals the 980
Man this is a good year for graphics cards.

>>55659730
How much did you get it for?

>>55661333
Does the 1060 beat the 980 handily or do they trade blows?

>>55649324
980Ti did not come a couple of months after the 970. Your time is warped as fuck. 980Ti came out last year, at which point the 970 had been around for what a year?

Before any of you nVIDIA marketing shills call me an AMD fanboy: I'm running 780's in SLI.


Buy the RX480.


Close performance, price difference at MSRP more than reflects that (assuming you're not willfully being raped by amazon resellers). Even if we skip AMD's 4870 glory days, think to yourself... what cards were competing recently? GTX 670/680 vs 7950/7970. Guess what? 7950/7970 leaves the 6xx series in the dust now. R9 290/x vs gtx 780/ti? Yeah, AMD now wins handily while the nvidia cards used to have a slight edge. Thanks to nvidia gimpworks and lack of future driver support nvidia isn't a good buy unless you upgrade every. single. cycle. Card will last you two generations or more? Buy AMD. I regret getting the 780's instead of the competing AMD cards of the time. Don't make my mistake.


tl;dr: upgrade every year? nvidia may be worth it for you. upgrade every 2 cycles or more? buy AMD.

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>>55649079
considering actual price, and the fact that RX480 is better in newer APIs, I'd say go for RX480 if you want to play new games, and go for 1060 if you want to play "old" (DX11) games.

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>>55661333
>>55661386
the 980 pretty much always beats the 1060. the best case, the 1060 gets very close to 980 (but happens rarely)

>tfw I'm going to buy the new Vega card ahile selling my fury X for 600CHF
>there will be an idiot that will actually buy it
Switzerlands strong and inflated market is a blessing from time to time.

>>55661839
this. I'm still running on a gtx 670. Not going to buy from Nvidia gimpworks this time

>>55659730
Nice collar anon, why did Master Nvidia let you take it off?

>>55659730
>VR ready
>no DP for VR though :^)

>>55662001
They support HDMI 2.0b though, which is all the Vive needs. The drivers will fix the issue on DP.

>>55661344
225 thanks to a discount for using paypal.

AMDPOORS ON SUCIDE WATCH

>>55662160
>225 thanks to a discount for using paypal.
wut how do I get the same discount? do I have to pay for amazon prime first?

>>55662045
Have fun swapping cables on your HDTV

>>55649817

At which vat? With our 23% I can only get 279.4€, which is what the cheapest 1060 is on preorder for.
And this does not factor in import costs or store's profit, so how the hell are they getting these prices?

>>55663149
20%. Already sold out though.

>>55650343
>>55650288
actually it works quite well
https://youtu.be/xrmF_fBGPLU

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>>55649272

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>>55651878
>nvidia
>not a paperlaunch

there's like 4 AAA dx12 games coming out in just 3 months and onwards it's gonna be more.

>inb4 AAA
that's what most people play so it proves the point dx11 is deded

>faster
>cooler
>quieter
>more efficient
>better overclocking
>software stack
>$10 more

AMD literally exiting the desktop market

>>55666160
>$10 more
how about $50 more, nigger

>>55666160
>better Oc
No, it might have bigger number but actual benefits are greater on rx

>>55666160
>cooler
>quieter
not really, everything depends on the heatsink
I had 60W graphic cards being loud little shits
while 300TDP r9 290 was quiet

>more efficient
call it lower power consumption
but its only 30-40W its nothing really
we litterally had 150W differences with gtx970 and r9 390... there it was really big bullet point, now its meh

>$10 more
80€ here

>>55657167
>posting the 1 game out of many where the 1060 is actually slower than the 480

Lel AMDerpers

>>55651878

AMD had enough stock to last until noon of launch day, 1060 sold out in minutes, Nvidia did another paperlaunch

>>55649578

Hardocp tested the 480 and 1060 in Vulkan and the 480 is 30% faster

>>55649592
Comparable in Germany. 480 and 1060 are basically the same price. Difference is like 10 bucks most of the time.

>>55649695
They are. I just bought a completely new rig and was forced to spend 520 euros on a 1070 for non shit coolers. Then again, the ones with reference cooling were usually 500 as well. Cheapest one I could find was 490. Meanwhile in the US you can buy one for what? 400 dollars?

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What the fuck is going on with the 480 in Europe? It's supposed to be cheaper than the 1060 yet it's marginally more expensive at €315 vs €295. The whole fucking reason to get the 480 over the 1060 is that it's cheaper. I really hate to see AMD fucking themselves over like this. Nvidia having a monopoly is the last thing I want to see happen.

>>55667521
Nvidia probably has better distribution than AMD. It's the same every generation. AMD is higher priced.

>>55667547
>better distribution
Thats not why the prices are low like this.

The price is matched to AMD RX480 due to competition. When they're roughly equal in performance for 1080p content, nVidia can't overprice it.

>>55667596
We're talking EU prices vs US prices. Nvidia has a larger market share and therefore gets shipped in bigger numbers. It's as simple as that. It's cheaper to transport one container over 1/3rd of a container.

I'm going to get the 480, because nVidia and linux just dont go together so well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g

>>55667620
>gets shipped in bigger numbers
Fact of the matter is, neither have enough in inventory.

Its not the case of nvidia having larger inventory than amd right now. If you look at both inventory on nowinstock, they're both out.

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>>55667731
>linux

>>55667786
I don't give a fuck who has the biggest number in stock right now. Simple fucking logistics explain exactly why Nvidia is cheaper in the EU than AMD is. That's all that was asked.

>>55659730
>zotac
you fucked up
[spoiler]https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4tqwax/aftermarket_gtx_1060_comparison_table_lets/[/spoiler]

The cooling solution is evidently worse than stock

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>>55658962
The 1060 is actually a better value. Pic related.

>>55656996
1060 actually wins in DX12

>>55651705
Uhh those benchmarks are real