faster than fury non-x for $250

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Founders Edition GTX 1060 is the undisputed value king now.

>>55648812
>1600x900

Holy shit, RIP 480

>>55648735
>dx 11

>>55648735

>BF3

For fuck sake TPU, fuck sake. I know why they pick BF3 - Nvidia responds better to overclocks in that game than what GCN does.

There is no other reason to use such an old game when newer games tax hardware better.

>>55648735
>claims 1060 is faster when is clearly getting 11 fps average

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It beats 480 in all games, DX12 and DX11

> faster than GTX 980 for $250
> Nvidia on suicide watch confirmed!
FTFY.

>>55648975

Thats not what Guru3d is showing.

"$250"
I mean that's great, I'd anyone sold it for that

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480 is getting raped http://www.sweclockers.com/test/22360-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/5#content
Use translate if you don't know of Swedish

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>>55648941

>>55648984
Guru3d shows that AMD stutters in most DX12 games

>>55648972
>>55648985

>>55648980
>BUTTMAD AYYMDPOORFAGS DETECTED

GTX 980 discontinued in April

Available nowhere

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>>55648735
DELETE

So is AMD pretty much over right?

How long until they declare bankruptcy?

>>55649016
Bunch in stock here.

Cheapest card 290€ so far.

>>55649031
They will ride it out for a few years then they're done

From techpowerup review:

"It seems that GTX 1060 is everything that AMD wanted RX 480 to be."

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55649031
Nvidia, the King's of the master race in one fell swoop just killed both their competition and every console out there.

Hope the nx uses nvidia, kek.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125879&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL071916&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL071916-_-EMC-071916-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14125879-S0B

GTX 1060 FOR $250

BE FAST IF YOU WANT ONE

>>55649059
SICK BURN

>>55649065
$249 holy shit, 480 is seriously dead

>>55649065
wow actually $250

rip amd

>>55649065
From techpowerup review:

"Should there be actual GTX 1060 cards in the market at $249, then this will destroy any hopes of AMD, because then GTX 1060 will beat it in Performance per Dollar too, with no clear wins left for AMD to convince potential buyers."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55648735
>780ti as fast as 980
wtf

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>>55649059
HOLY SHIT

Thank fucking god I'm not an AMD fag
>t-t-there's no way the 1070 will beat the Titan X, just look at the cores!
>t-t-the 1060 won't beat the 980
>480 will be as fast as the 980 and rival the 980 Ti in DX12
>480 won't just be a paper launch like the 1070/1080 (meanwhile I have a non-founders 1070 installed while there are STILL no AIB 480s and you have to get the absolutely abysmal reference design)
AMD just lost in every aspect besides async, which I admit, is a rather huge fuckup on nVidia's side.

>>55649120
b-but DX12 and Vulkan!

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>>55649065
>same card where I live is about 360 euros
>reference Rx480 is anywhere between 310 to 330
>mfw when expecting both to be 300 euros

>>55649138
They'll just shitpost about gimping, don't worry, not that it's true.

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/hd-7970-vs-gtx-680-2013-revisited/

>>55649157
Blame your Euroc u c k VAT 20-25%

Sucks for anyone who bought a 480 already, then this comes out.

If the GTX 1060 will match the price of the RX 480 AMD will go bankrupt.
Fucking hell Pajeet you fucking lost.

>>55649159
Is there really any hope left for Vega, at this point? Do people honestly believe that Vega will be the perfect chip now that Polaris was pretty much underwhelming when compared to Pascal?
Will async be enough to hold AMD over water?

>>55649185
Well they did it to themselves. the 480 comes out, it's underwhelming, but it's good value, but then the prices skyrocket so it stops being worth buying.
And loads of people who bought it at the not-worth-it-at-all-you-fucking-idiot prices are going to be mad and probably blame AMD for their own stupidity or something.

>www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
>Fury Nitro
>$299
>coupon PP2016BTS
>$275

>>55648735
Im going to get a gtx 1070 and have narrowed it down to choices, though I don't know much about graphics cards so I'd appreciate your input.

Palit GTX 1070 GameRock Premier Edition vs the Inno3D GTX 1070 iChill Air Boss X3

Palit Pros:
>Core Clock: 1670MHz vs Inno3D 1620MHz
>Boost Clock: 1873MHz vs Inno3D 1820MHz
>Memory: 8500MHz vs Inno3D 8200MHz

Palit Cons:
>Only available for preorder whereas I can get the Inno3D today.
>It only has a 2 year warranty while the Inno3D has a 3 year warranty
>The Palit looks ugly as fuck, I don't really care too much about how it looks though

Do the differences in core, boost and memory make much a difference at all? or is it better to have the 3 year warranty?

>>55649188
It's already a better value, there are 1060s available for $249

>>55649185

anyone who bought a reference 480 even after the overclock scandal (ref cards top out at 1350mhz, less than 100mhz over base clock, meanwhile AIBs are already rumored to be getting much better clocks) and motherboard killing scandal is either retarded or a blind fanboy.

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>>55649059
Fucking savage

>Hitman
>They actually had a dx12 game benchmark
>Oh wait, they didn't use it because "its buggy"

>Rise of the Tomb Raider
>DX12

So we can confer that this is not a future proof card at all?

Why are they shying from DX12?

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>be Pajeet
>working hard for rupees cleaning designated shitting streets
>in free time shill hard for AYYYMD for couple more rupees
>finally have enough to buy glorious RX 480
>GTX 1060 get released soon after
>GTX 1060 destroys RX 480
>mfw

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>posts founders edition benchmarks
no 1060 will sell for $250 for 2-3 months. The first models to actually sell for $250 will have worse coolers than the founders edition and perform worse.

Reminder that the "Founders Edition" is a marketing trick by Nvidia to make the reference design get good benchmarks.

Dear God, nvidia shills are everywhere today.

The RX480 is going to improve over time with better drivers you stupid fucks, meanwhile the GTX1060 is going to get gimped in less than a year.

/g/ only uses AMD.

GTFO of /g/ n/v/idiots.
Go back to /v/ where you belong.

>>55649287
there's already non reference models for 250$ up on newegg
Just give up, you lost

>>55649194
Nope. Not until the majority of people upgrade to windows 10 thanks to dx12

>>55649271

probably because there are no brand-agnostic dx12/vulkan games yet, they're all waiting evolved memes (hitman, aots) or full goyimworks (tomb raider)

>>55649287
Uhh bro there's a $249 1060 right above you in this thread

>>55649230
>only USA exists

>>55649291
Why so mad?

>>55648735
>>55648812
The value of the 1060 is worse than AMD's 480 according to computerbase.de. The 1060 is only 6% faster. Also you can get a 480 with 4 gigs of ram 50€/$ cheaper

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>>55649287
>marketing truck by nvidia to make the reference design get good benchmarks

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>>55649266
>Hitman DX12
Reason is because of this.

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>>55649329
Or this

I'm getting a 1060 anyway because AMD cards/drivers have little quirks that Nvidia usually doesn't.


This is probably a result of Nvidia having more marketshare so it's better supported but that doesn't change the reality of the situation.

>>55649301
>>55649308
OUT OF STOCK
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>>55649352
Very true

Nvidia cards are just way more stable, and put off less heat and use less power

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>>55649266
Yes, Hitman is buggy on DX12.

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>>55649329
>>55649347
>obsolete in one year
Nvidiots on suicide watch

>>55649352
Same but mainly because I have a weakish CPU and amd drivers have overhead that can impact performance on weaker cpus that these reviews never show since they're all done with overclocked top of the line hardware.
see here: https://youtu.be/frNjT5R5XI4?t=438

>>55649365
You're honestly shitting on nVidia for having third party cards going out of stock on launch day when there's still not a single third party 480 that has been shipped, several weeks after release?

>>55649291
Buyer remorse already? But you just got your RX 480.

>http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1060_review,17.html
Looks like they're using DOOM OpenGL mode for their showcase.

Shying away from Vulkan/Async compute because it would absolutely rekt 1060.

>>55649393
Holy shit I didn't know that. Even more of a reason to go #TeamGreen

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>>55649352
>Nvidia can't even into DX12
>I'm choosing it because AMD has little quirks
Wew, lad

There are no 1060 available anywhere. Another paper launch?

I mean it's pretty easy to sell a bunch for cheap to make it seem like a great value, but then have no stock to create an imaginary demand so they have an excuse to raise prices.

>>55649388
>implying everyone will downgrade to botnet 10

Why are AYYMDrones shilling so hard for an API that only work on a literal botnet?

>>55649352
enjoy bro

>>55649426
Hell the 1060 might end up consistently performing worse than the RX 480 on DX12 and I'm still getting the 1060 because of those quirks.

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>7-8% faster
>9-20% more expensive
>worse OC potential than 480 with custom cooler
>Nvidiots celebrate it as a victory

>>55649426
>AMD can't into DX11/DX9
>most games are DX11/DX9
Wew, lad

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>>55649426
Uhh 1060 even destroys 480 in DX12 and everything

>>55648812
Nice resolution

>>55649454
Oh no, I only have to put up with completely fine performance on DX11 what will I do

>>55649352
The two quirks that I remember as of late, from both companies:
nVidia:
>Sell card as 4gb
>Actually is 3.5 + 5gb

AMD:
>Sell card as 4gb
>Actually is 8gb

You might be able to afford a 750 in two years of toy keep this up, rajeesh

Really though, Nvidia has got no clue what they're doing, they just slap some more money at it and then some at game developers.

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>>55649452
It's an even better value than the 480, there is literally no reason to get a 480 at this point

>>55649323
You can get the 8GB version for almost that much cheaper depending on your country

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not a very future proof gpu, sorry

>>55649452
>worse OC potential than 480 with custom cooler
Zero reliable sources for that. It's hilarious how you AMD fans never stop praying, always hoping for that wonder that will pull you out of your ditch

>>55649452
It overclocks better than the 480 so far but that might change when custom cards come out that aren't running so close to the power limit of a 6pin power connector.
Where the hell are the custom cards anyway? they're taking forever.

>>55649464
thats a dx11 bench you fucking shill

>>55649506
Uhh no it's not moron, that's Tomb Raider in DX12, check techpowerup

>>55649490
>Vulkan
Is funny how you fuckers cry "gimping" when a game uses gayworks and tess but want all the benchmarks to be done in an API that is derived from Mantle.
Would be funny if gayworks will evolve into an API that will become industry standard.

>>55649469
>nVidia performs better on DX11, AMD performance is still "completely fine"
>AMD performs better by about the same margin on DX12, shit on nVidia for weeks on end

>>55649452
>worse OC potential than 480 with custom cooler
[citation needed]

>>55649506
DF is reporting similar results: https://youtu.be/3W7WX6pjL-M?t=161
They mention at 0:40 that it's even doing that with the async update.

>>55649506
Crying so hard you can't see anymore, anon? Should I get a napkin for you or something?

>>55649506
>>55649464
>>55649516
Thats DX12 for Rise of Tomb Raider. But DX11 and DX12 are identical in performance. Its literally just a DX11 title at this point.

>>55649475
>RX 480 4GB nowhere in the chart

>>55649529
There's a difference between gameworks and vulkan.
Gameworks is specifically made to give nvidia gpu a boost. Vulkan is just an API, every manufacturers can implement it the specifications are open.

>>55649501
>>55649541
with a custom aircooler the reference 480 clocks to 1350Mhz (15% over stock boost clocks)
Source: PCgameshardware
Recent leak claimed Powercolor RX 480 will have 1400Mhz boost clocks out of the box.

1060 only OC's 10% and even custom models aren't better. Custom 480 will completely rape it.

>>55649452
>480
>oc potential
>frying boards left and right already

>>55649529
Vulkan GIVES performance to ALL cards. AMD simply gains 20-50% more performance whereas nvidia gains 1-5%

Gameworks and extreme tessellation, LOSES performance to ALL cards. Nvidia simply loses 10-20% while AMD loses 30-40%.

One is proprietary, other is open standards.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4

480 still shits on 1060 with vulkan.

>>55649559
I haven't even seen one reviewed yet.
It's a shame, I want to see if the 8gb even does anything but no one is testing them.

>>55649563
Remember the leaks that said reference RX480 will OC like a monster reaching 1.4 to 1.5 Ghz? Yeah, no, citation still needed. It would be awesome if chip would constantly hit 1.5 Ghz.

>>55649563
>with a custom aircooler the reference 480 clocks to 1350Mhz (15% over stock boost clocks)
Still not enough to beat the 1060 OC. You don't really want us to compare a 480 OC to a refernce 1060 now, do you?

>Recent leak claimed Powercolor RX 480 will have 1400Mhz boost clocks out of the box.
>Recent leak
>as an answer to someone demanding reliable sources

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Just wait for my aftermarket RX 480 to come in the mail, I'm going to over clock it to Fury X performence. You nvidiots will be on suicide watch.

Welp. I was waiting for the Sapphire 480 Nitro, but I guess that's not even worth it now. Shame. I was excited to give AMD a bash, but it looks like I'm sticking with team green for the foreseeable future. Man, I hope Aussie prices aren't too fucking insane.

Feels good to have no brand loyalty seeing this competition

This is a fucking joke. A proper 1060 gtx costs almost 300 quid. I'm honestly reconsidering buying a 390X for £250 or hunting trying to snap a Fury for £300.

>>55649586
nobody said that
meanwhile there are already official sources saying custom 480 will be 15-19% faster than reference: http://videocardz.com/62280/asus-rog-announces-strix-radeon-rx-480-available-mid-august

>>55649589
reference clocks of 1350-1400 are basically confirmed by above source. OC clocks will go to 1500Mhz or more.
1060 is complete crap. Nvidia can only save themselves by bribing press.

How does the 1060 compare to the 980? Not the Ti, just the base 980?

Cause the 1060 is like $525AUD, give or take, and the 980 it still mostly $580+.

>>55649601
>get RX 480 in mail
>throw it in the PC
>OC it to the limit
>fry motherboard
>throw it in the bin

>>55649529
>Vulkan gimps nVidia
kek, you're fucking retarded

nVidia simply cannot into async-compute and as a result gains very little from low level APIs like Vulkan, whereas AMD have been polishing GCN for years and gain up to 1.5x more performance, meanwhile Maxwell loses FPS in Vulkan because it's just THAT bad at it

>>55649607
I know. Is a great show. And when things seem to die down all you need to do is just poke at one of the parties and it will start all over.

>>55649637
Its roughly similar.

>>55649601
>>55649602

Nice false flag n/v/shills

Go back to >>/v/

>>55649611
Getting new nvidia gpus is always hell anywhere other than the US.
You have to work out your own price to performance charts.
Canada probably has it the worst, they have australia tier prices but 90% of the population lives within an hour's drive of america.

>>55649637
It's slightly faster than a 980 but more power efficient, puts off less heat and makes less noise.

>>55649620
This just sounds like the same talk you idiots have talked since the 480 was announced. Every time actual benches came out that fucked your hopes you retreated to the next thing.
>b-b-but 480 will have 980 performance
>it doesn't
>b-b-but 1060 won't have 980 performance, too
>it does
>b-b-but wait for OC

>>55649662
So they're too lazy to drive down and pick up a shit?

>>55649662

So why they don't drive to America and get cheaper parts?

>>55649645
I never said that it gimps nvidia. I said it favors AMD. I know you are a little slow but please try and keep up.

>>55649637
Slightly faster in some games slightly slower in more.
it's more power efficient and nvidia likes to gimp their older cards so don't pay for a 980 unless you can get it for a bit less than a 1060 new, or a lot (~25% or more) less used.

>>55648975
This is exactly the crux of the issue. The 480 is a 1080 card, for all games, DX11 and DX12. The 1060 beats it by 1% for $100-150 more.

Even in the OP, the 480 does 60fps+ on 1440. Why would you spend more money for a 1060 who isn't all that better than the 480 in saturating the refresh rate of a 144hz monitor. If anything you can OC a 480 and save yourself ~$150

>>55649673
Lol 1060 is everything the 480 promised.

1060 is the real deal, 480 is just some cheap imitation.

>>55649120
not supporting nvidia who has done everything they could to kill gaming and innovation, and are fucking you on 'founders editions" hard right now.

yea... there is my big reason to go amd, nvidia would need to have the gpu preform almost an entire tier higher for the same price before I would get it.

>>55649675
>>55649679
I think it costs money to cross a border. I don't know i don't live there.

>>55649706
Umm see >>55649475

The 1060 is a better deal far and away.

>>55649714
Founders Edition is limited to nvidia.com you fucking moron.

>>55649718
Maybe $3 in gas.

>>55649655
>>55649664
And what about with overclocking, do you reckon?

>>55649660
Sit on a dick and swivel, cum-guzzler. I remain unaligned as much as physically possible. I was hyped AS FUCK for the 480, and AMD kept letting me down. If it turns out the Sapphire 480 Nitro does somehow blow the 980/1060 out of the fucking water, then yeah, I'll buy that instead. However, as of RIGHT THIS SECOND, the numbers aren't matching up for the stock 480 to compare to a 1060 or 980, without even taking into account overclocking.

>>55649673
Actual ASUS source says custom 480 clocks 1350Mhz out of the box. That's a 15% OC over stock
This will blow any custom 1060 out of the water

>>55649021
Saving for future use.

>>55649438
vulcan

and why dx10, because there is more than one game out on it so people can't say "just one game" and instead establishes a low level api pattern

>>55649746
But the 480 is about 10-15% slower than the 1060 in most games.
It's going to equal the 1060 out of the water!

>>55649724
Uhm, the 480 is off by 4% and has 4.5GB more ram.

>>55649741
You can overclock both 980, 1060, RX480, etc.

Reminder, AMD RX480 cards are reference models. Nvidia's founder's edition reference, higher binned cards, are the benchmark cards. Nvidia aftermarket is the aftermarket.

>>55649746
Where the fuck do you get your numbers from
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-7.html
>AMD’s Radeon RX 480 starts with a GPU frequency in the 850 to 900 MHz range. These numbers are achieved with our "power-saving mode" and a voltage limited to a maximum of 0.85V. It maxes out at 1300 MHz, which is just 50 MHz higher than the stock 1250 MHz, and doesn’t really provide a noticeable performance gain.
How is 1350 15% OC over 1250

>>55649773
480 has 2GB more RAM and is ironically slower than the 1060

>>55649680
They're called AMDrones for a reason

>>55649785
Just AMDummies making up shit again.

>>55649761
Because I never was a big fan of DX10 and I don't know a lot about it. For me it looked the same as DX9 but was taxing performance quite heavily.

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1060 performs better, uses less power, and has a higher performence per dollar. RX 480 is trash tier now.

>>55649746
>1350 is 15% more than 1250
Even if it was (it ain't) that's not how it works anon, 15% faster core doesn't mean 15% performance gain.

>>55649774
Yeah, I know you can overclock them all, and that's fine.

I AM going to be waiting until the afternarket 480s are out though, since hopefully that'll close the gap a bit. I'm not overly hyped anymore, but maybe they'll surprise us.

>>55649724
Not a single true DX12 game benchmarked.

Only DX12 title benchmarked was "Rise of Tomb Raider", which as you can see (pics related) is a performance loss for all cards. I mean what kind of DX12 games loses performance on all cards? Nvidia sponsored "DX12".

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>>55649766
>Reference 1060 = 7.7% faster than reference 480
>Custom 1060 = 11.1% faster than reference 480
>Custom 480 = 15% faster than reference 480
CAN YOU DO THE MATH

>>55649786
Vram doesn't really have much to do with performance until it suddenly does when there's not enough.
Not that 6gb is going to be stuffy in anything when it's performing in the same power bracket as the 4gb 980.

>>55648735

AMD ESTA ACABADO Y EN BANCARROTA.

>>55649563
Math isn't your strongest suit, is it?

The increase from 1266 MHz to 1350 MHz is about 6.6%, not 15%.

>>55649828
except there are reliable sources and benchmarks for every one of your claims except the last one
also
>>55649822

>>55649834
si

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>>55649827
pics related

"DX12"

why would you benchmark shit like ass creed and battlefield 3 and not doom?

>>55649786
That price is for the 3GB version. Depends really, some are going for as high as $330 (Asus).

Within 4%, with 3GB more RAM, costs less, async, will age much better, etc.

Notice how they picked battle field 3 and not 4

Ffs the shilling is next level

>>55649828
While i thank you for correctly representing percentages, that is an average that's being pushed a bit out of proportion by hitman. You're right that a 15% increase will push the average past the 1060 it's just a <10% increase in performance in presumably the same price bracket doesn't seem like "blowing out of the water" to me.

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>>55649785
>>55649802
>>55649822
>>55649841
Nice try Nvidiots, but I have official statements from ASUS and benchmarks from PCgameshardware (i.e. the most reliable PC review site on the planet) showing a 1350Mhz 480 is 15% faster than a reference 480.
Reference 480 boost clocks are in the 1150-1200MHz range in the real world. 1266Mhz just is the theroetical max boost clocks

Facts are on AMD's side.

>>55649139
So, is DX12 just a meme? Is it really a gimped step down that disable stuff?
I know nvidia cards "support" DX12, but it does seem like most DX12 games don't do well with them, is this fixed? will it be fixed? or is it a non issue? (just worried all games will go DX12 and so I should wait for next gen nvidia cards to fully support them and get that massive AMD speed bump with Nvidia baseline bump)

>>55649875
There is no 3GB version.

The 6GB 1060 is $249, which makes it a way better deal than the 480 in every way.

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DOESNT SUPPORT SLI

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHABAHAHAHAHAOLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY FUCK

>>55649887
/thread

>>55649903
Why would you SLI an x60 card?
That's pretty retarded.

>>55649875
The 3gb version was scrapped, it's just 6gb now.
http://www.newegg.com/videocards/PromotionStore/ID-1170?cm_mmc=SNC-Twitter-_-NA-_-Promo-ProductLaunch-NVIDIA-GTX-1060s-_-NA

>>55649582
8gb is within 1 frame of the 4gb till you need more then 4gb of ram, don't remember who, but i remember a few benches that had 4gb cards, usually they also were the ones that performed better till you needed more then 4gb.

>>55649291
Still waiting on those drivers to fix my fiji and bulldozer, they keep saying they are coming...

>>55649887
Anon that 1150MhZ 480RX is underclocked or has a disabled boost clock

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/radeon-rx-series/radeon-rx-480

Even official AMD site shows a boost clock of 1266MHz. So much for the "most reliable PC review site on the planet" which btw is just your personal opinion.

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>>55649887
>trusting a review site that labels a 4gb card as 3.5gb

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>>55649903
>2016
>using 2 or more GPUs
Get a load of this stupid bitch.

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>>55649230
>mfw when 1060 is cheaper than 480 in Swedistan

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>>55649917
>it's a f-feature!

Lmao and kek

>>55649930
you have no idea how boost clocks work. never post on /g/ again!

>>55649917
2xGTX 460 was fucking awesome

>>55649827
RotTR patch added Async. Deus Ex is ported by the same guys, so the biggest non-MS DX12 title of the year is going to favour nVidia.
Hitman and GoW are the only games favouring AMD, and GoW was broken as hell.
You also forcing people to install W10 to play DX12 games. Not everyone is fine with W10. And Vulkan is dead in the water on PC right now.

This whole "sponsored" shit is getting old. I have an AMD card, but you guys start to sound pathetic. AMD needs to lower the price on 480 to compete.

>>55649329
Hitman is a stutterfest on dx12, that is why there is no point in including it.

>>55649947
Sure I don't shill :)

>>55649917
Lol at you simple nvidiots

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>>55649887

>>55649875
>thats the price for the 3gb 1060
Why does ignorant shit like this keep getting posted over and over again?

>>55649944
It's not that the inability to do it is a feature, it's that 2 1060s wouldn't be as fast as a 1080 even if the gods of decent driver support smiled on you and would cost nearly as much as one.
It just doesn't make much sense as a consumer option anymore.
The advice regarding SLI has always been, epic deals notwithstanding always buy the fastest card your budget allows and only dual GPU if the fastest card is still not enough.

>>55649568
still not a single motherboard.

>>55649988
It clearly says 1300Mhz+ in his illustration. This doesn't break 1265 i.e. not overclocked.

>>55649887
i've never trusted this website and this cements that. they always get massively different results compared to all other benchmarkers which is suspicious to me.

>buy GTX 1060
>can't SLI because jewvidia
>buy RX 480
>can't xfire because frying mobo

>>55649640
>aftermarket
>fry motherboard
pick one

>>55650014
>Reference 480 boost clocks are in the 1150-1200MHz range in the real world.
Now look at >>55649988

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>>55649903
>2016
>multi-gpu
Haha that's a fucking funny joke m8

>>55649568
It doesn't fry them, it's just some motherboards won't post with it.
Also it could overclock even at release so the motherboards that can handle it seem to be able to handle a bit more

>>55648941
Dude its because of consistency.

>>55650024
>implying aftermarket cards won't use same bios
>implying AMD fixed the problem with the update

>>55649988
>>55650020
>>55650026
They actually did the 480 overclocking on video. Even with a custom cooler it doesn't boost to more than 1200Mhz at stock settings. With raised power limitd and overclocking they get it to 1350Mhz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7BibxgQSM

>>55649804
lol, thinking windows 10 and dx12 came out dx10... did not catch that soon enough

as for dx10 v 9, so long as the developer didn't add any dx10 only affects, dx10 ran slightly better than 9, granted same with 9 and 11, but 11 gained about 33% more performance.

>>55650034
Shhhh. Let him have his tinfoil fantasy time.

>>55649157
RIP (You)
>http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/gainward-geforce-gtx-1060-6-go-132960.html

https://youtu.be/lBlCUV6TwiY

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>tfw you waited

>>55650102
Some should make an AMD version of that one with "no drivers".
A-sync will not become mainstream until nVidia won't have GPUs that supports it fully at hardware level.

Wasn't founders for 1060 supposed to be a limited run? It would make sense, Nvidia would make them some marketing, fanboys would get fueled, goying would continue.
Can't remember where I read that, on phone at work atm.

>>55650128
You're not wrong.
Nvidia's got like 75% of the market, we're not going to see a lot of devs put the effort into async until a good deal of that market can use it.
Though that's not a reason to buy nvidia either since it's just one more thing to make your gpu obsolete when volta gpus are finally released.
It's a shame, i'm still on kepler and upgrading now seems like a waste.

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>>55649329

>>55650097
W8 masterace

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>>55649581
this is sad for Nvidiots

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>mfw just bought Fury non-X for 280 EUR
Whatever

>>55650097
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRfZR3lB4Bc

>waitfags.webm

>>55650190
Wow the 480 is taking up most of the graph, it's such a big graphics.

>>55650097
Is that shit around it's mouth? Are you implying waitfags eat shit? #triggered

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>>55648735
>super old game
>>55648812
>resolution nobody uses

good old nvidia cherry picking damage control

enjoy being the loser. at least there's a ton of you right?

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>>55649465
>>55648866
BTFO

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>>55649637
>How does the 1060 compare to the 980?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/10

if i had to choose, i'd buy the 480 so nvidia with stop with their proprietary shit like shitx and shitworks

>>55649988
Id like to see this lined up with a matching gpu utilization graph. My 7950 will down clock with utilization drops.

>>55650242
Alright, cool. Now what about the whole 'nvidia gimps older cards' thing? It's probably better to just get the 1060 considering they're already a similar price - in Australia, anyway.

>>55649718
From my own crossing into canada there was a toll for the ambassador bridge or the tunnel in Detroit, but none up in Sault ste. Marie. Can't remember if they charge one over in Port Huron.

Anyway it isn't the crossing itself that charges a fee.

>>55648866
>>55649465
I use a 1366*768 32" TV led display and it's fucking heaven.

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Why is DOOM purposely forcing Nvidia cards to use outdated Vulcan API libraries? Is AMD behind this?

>>55650279
Yes, Nvidia will gimp every card ~1 year after release so people keep upgrading.

The RX480 is way faster on new API like DX12 and Vulkan, and AMD drivers only increase performance, they never gimp. So the RX 480 is the future proof card.

>>55649933
but it is a 3.5GB site

>>55650325
*card

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>>55650325
>>55650337
>so mad he can't even type

Whelp, this thing is a total RX480 killer for sure. Those things costs around ~300€ here in Finland, and if you'd want GTX 1060 right now you'd pay 350€ for it while waiting a bit longer you could get one for 300€ as well (seeing listings at that point but shipping dates are unknown).

I ended up ordering an R9 Nano earlier though because a store had it on sale for 350€.

Nice. another GPU thread with different benchmarks for every game and different ultra edtion GPU's

can't this shit go to /v/ or something. it gets old seeing onn stop

>>55650094
my takeaway from this is that the difference in performance is marginal at best and only a faggot would invest himself in any of these insipid fanboy war threads

>>55649894
If you can get your hands on a 4gig 480 it's a better price/performance than the 1060 at $249.

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>clock regularly drops to 100Mhz

enjoy the stutterfest

Shilling aside, are these benchmarks legit? How will the 1060 fare with time vs the 480? 1060 SLI? I may replace my r9 280x if either card proves worthy.

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>>55650426
even the non-reference card with fancy cooler

>>55650426
Yeah the 1060 is the stutter fest >>55648972

>>55650433
all radeon cards have been proven to age nicely (see 290, 7950/7970 cards)

all nvidia has ever done is cripple cards with 0 driver support after less than a year

>>55650433
see >>55650320

>>55650433
All the reviews are comparing the reference 480 with 1060s with aftermarket coolers.

Also you won't even be able to buy both because they're all marked up.

>>55650433
It won't age at all.

If DX12 and Vulkan are the future, then 1060 will be about 15% worse than RX480 in those games that utilize DX12/Vulkan features. Its already about 30% worse in Doom.

>>55648735
Wasnt Titan X like a 1000$ card? Lmao

>>55650452
>implying non poorfags keep their cards for more than 2 years

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>>55650433
> are these benchmarks legit?
Yes. Just ignore all the cherrypicked ones.

>How will the 1060 fare with time vs the 480?
Unknown.

>1060 SLI?
Not possible.

>>55650452
Not exactly.

>>55650504
why would a "non poorfag" buy a fucking 1060?
go shill somewhere else, goldbergstein

so I'm reading the guru3d review.

shit is always identical or 1 fps apart at 4k. bigger gaps at 1080p and 1440p but that's a 60/40 split for nvidia at best.

TDP and noise at full load is also slightly in favor of the 1060 but neither are particularly loud. and that doesn't really justify the price gap between the two.

my guess is that nvidia's 16nm process is just getting better results than AMD's 14nm. and they're probably making more profit per unit than the 480.

nvidia isn't dumb; they waited out the 480's benchmarks and placed the 1060 exactly right where they should, price wise.

I don't know what you shills are talking about. this is solid fucking competition. the kind we've always hoped for.

>>55650504
>give your money to the jews
Are you cuck?

>>55650509
do you even know what you're comparing there, you idiot?

>>55650509
>Unknown

i'm sure all future games will use dx11 instead of dx12 or vulkan

>>55650529
>TDP and noise at full load is also slightly in favor of the 1060 but neither are particularly loud. and that doesn't really justify the price gap between the two.

who the fuckcares about reference (a.k.a. moron-bait FoUnDeRs EdItIoN cards)

>>55650433
They're 'legit' in the sense that they didn't fake the results, but they chose a pretty odd collection of games to benchmark that's somehow managed to include many gamesworks titles and almost none with well optimized dx12 and vulkan support, so it's skewed slightly in favour of nvidia. nonetheless it's pretty convincingly faster than the rx 480 for the vast majority of current titles, ie dx11 titles, but who knows how that's going to hold up 6 months to a year or two down the line and beyond as more and more games move towards the newer APIs. Its power draw is unquestionably better than the 480. Both are good choices for the price point.

>>55650509
>ti
sure, and now show us the price difference at that time

>>55650565
I mean sure AMD dropped the ball with the reference 480 but that doesn't mean the aftermarket models will be magically twice as good.

And it's not like Nvidia resellers won't release factory OC'd 1060's either.

>>55650566
the choice is easy
stop supporting proprietary shit that nvidia pushes, teach them a lesson and buy amd. i'm hopeful that this will make nvidia fucking stop with that shit and maybe i'll consider buying whatever they're selling

>>55650312
sorry but this won't get noticed since its all about muh amd underdog please notice me async senpai

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Still going to upgrade to a 480 aftermarket.

My current card is 5 years old and I expect the same longevity from any card I buy. Pascal will age like milk as more and more developers move to DX12/Vulkan.

>>55648991
The Gigabyte one was $250, already sold out on Newegg, what the fuck, someone end me.

>>55650594
i'm waiting for the 480 nitro to be on sale here so a friend can buy it. i don't even see the fucking point of giving two shits about ANY reference card

the only cards i consider proper are anything ACX or vapor-x. everything lower might as well fuck right off and die

>AiB 480's will now aim to be better than the 1060

free market wins again

would be nicer if we had 3 or more gpu teams though

>>55650622
I'm not saying "buy reference cards"

I'm saying "release benchmarks are valid"

>>55650617
why is the 1060 so long, wtf?

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>>55650529
I always saw the "efficient" nvidia cards as removing features. This has worked in the past, but with DX12/Vulkan/Async compute coming this close to mainstream usage, I would not gamble like this. AMD's older GCN gambled on multi processors, but it failed in short term. Those cards however are gaining new life with these new API.

Nvidia still seems to be sticking to the DX11 is the "now and the future" meme. This has proven to bite nvidia owners in the ass with the 600-700-900 series with the advent of new games using these API. I personally wouldn't gamble when odds are these close.

The techpowerup used all DX11 titles, with ROTR as "DX12". With these in mind, its only 7% faster in DX11 games on average. Guru3D's review shows a RX480/1060 at similar performance. They used couple of DX12 games on their benchmark.

As more and more games are released, this thing will age like shit. This will be a repeat of 970 vs 390.

>>55650243
This just goes to show you that Hitman is an AMD optimized game and has nothing to do with DX12 because even in DX11 it has issues.

>>55650613
its the only choice for poorfags anyway so yeah good choice.

>>55650639
benchmarks, sure, but testing power and temps on these and even discussing them is stupid. reference coolers just prove how fucking lazy companies are

>>55650548
The performance delta of 6870 and 560 Ti in the games included in TPU's benchmarks at one time point, and in the games benchmarked 2 years later.

Do you know what you're talking about?

>>55650560
DX12 adoption will take a while, and it's not like 480 performs better in all DX12 games.

RX 480 performs better in: Hitman, Total War, Quantum Break
RX 480 and 1060 perform roughly the same in: Ashes, Gears of War
1060 performs better in: Tomb Raider, Forza 6

All at 1080p, results at different resolutions may vary. Also keep in mind that more of these games are AMD sponsored than nvidia sponsored.

>>55650529
>my guess is that nvidia's 16nm process is just getting better results than AMD's 14nm. and they're probably making more profit per unit than the 480.
Not even going by 16nm vs 14nm, nvidia's GP106 die is ~15% smaller than the polaris 10 die so nvidia will be able to make more chips per wafer which will make them cheaper to produce on their own.

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>>55650575
I fail to see the relevance, but ok.

>>55650664
This man knows what he's talking about.

The 1060 is actually faster in DX12. It only has issues with AMD optimized games, which luckily are few and far between.

>>55650676
>I fail to see the relevance
exactly

>>55648735
they are going to spam tpu till they die lol
literally not a single other reviewer because so shil to only use gameworks games as a refrence point

>>55650664
>keep in mind that more of these games are AMD sponsored than nvidia sponsored
Should I also keep in mind that 90% of the DX11 games are Nvidia sponsored games?

>When overclocked it barely beats an overclocked RX 480 in Firestrike (The Nitro+ will kill it)
>Only beats the 480 in a select few DX11 gimped games
>6GB
>More expensive at MSRP launch even though there is tons of stock.

Fail.

Wow this GPU is shit. I am glad I got my gigabyte 1070 the second it came in stock.

>>55650695
Uhh it beats the 480 in basically everything.

>>55649917

>he never SLI'd gtx 460s or GTX 260 core 216

>>55650709
[citation needed]

read the entire fucking thing

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1060-review.html

>>55650709
not him, but it beats the reference.

just you watch, amd will now release the AiB partner boards with better framerates than the 1060

keep in mind that the 480 is cheaper and about the same performance, but you will inevitably get fucked in less than a year if you get a 1060

>>55650693
Sure, though the right number isn't 90%. I think more games are nvidia sponsored than amd sponsored nowadays. So when DX12 picks up properly, there will likely be more nvidia sponsored DX12 games than amd sponsored DX12 games, the opposite of the current situation, so nvidia is likelier to have the lead in DX12 on average.

gg no re AMDelusionals

>>55650729
1060 is by far the best value GPU you can buy

See >>55649475

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RX 480: futureproof
GTX 1060: better for now

>>55650744
i don't think you know what "by far" means
you literally fucking link to a photo that shows a minimal difference

oh and you like giving money to fucking jewish tactics-using companies

>>55650722

See >>55648975

That's an aggregate of all games tested, the 1060 is clearly the winner

>>55650742
>m-maybe if I repeat it enough I'll convince even myself

>>55650709
the only reviewers that actually showed 1060 ahead on everything was tpu and techspot

literally tpu didnt even used a dx12 game let alone doom..
techspot magically added +20% perfomance on 980 and +22% on 1060 even on dx12 games!
its just another 960 that will be DOA in some weeks already

>>55650751
"better"
you're not taking price into account

>>55650759
Sorry did you waste your money on a 480? You can probably still return it and get a 1060.

>>55650766
t. AMDirtpoor

>>55650774
fair enough

>>55650779
>le funny patronizing joek coming from an nvidiot face :^)

>>55650762
techpowerup has shit methodology and dubious motives

guru3d is impartial, competent and presents facts unadulterated

>>55649714
congratulations on playing yourself for a corporation's sake, you fucking cuckold.

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>>55649533
>AMD performs better by about the same margin on DX12
No. In proper implementations of DX12/Vulkan AMD will shit all over nVidia.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4#.V44wKoWcFZc

>The performance gap widens at 1080p. Here the AMD Radeon RX 480 is 32% faster than the GeForce GTX 1060 running "Ultra" settings and "Nightmare" settings at 1080p under the Vulkan API.

Even HardOCP is admitting this.

>>55650787
>b-but it's supposed to be better :(
>what am I going to ask my mum to buy me now??

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>non reference is $100 more

wtf nvidia

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>>55650751
>Vulkan
>uses benchmark without async compute
Why are they so scared of async compute benchmark? It doesn't hurt nVidia, but gives performance to AMD cards.

>>55650794
not really
ok tpu has become shit no one is denying that but guru3d also bends their result..

check their aots bench..if you see the bench on aots bench site you will see the resolution is high but most of the settings are low thus making 1060 to perfom near 480...

guess I'm getting an aftermarket 480! this is highly disappointing from nvidia.

>>55650819
>those prices
wat

Aren't we ever getting a $379 GTX 1070?

>>55650751
More like:
GTX 1060: better for now
RX 480: Better in a year
It's not future proof, it will be as useless as a 960 is now in 2 years

>>55650802
>dx12 is properly implemented when amd does better
Gotta love this logic.

see >>55649382

>>55649009
Passive gimping incoming

>>55650831
>1080p
at least post 1440p

>>55650812
>this is what AMDolts actually believe

>>55650831
you havent really followed the shit that is happening with time spy do you know..
nvidia at this point and time is nowere near on doing paraller tasks they only do single render path exactly what 3dmark calls "async" on their bench

The RX 480 @ 1340 Mhz already matches an overclocked 1060 in Firestrike. The Nitro+ etc will beat it easily by getting to 1400 Mhz+. The boost clock on the Nitro+ is 1342 Mhz so headroom for further overclocking. The Powercolor Devil will probably overclock more.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9157685

>>55650831
>that frame time variance on 480
Disgusting.

>>55649382
posting a screenshot from older episode
makes a path for months later as buggy

>>55650839
its dollarydoos not USD

>>55650433
Honestly it's better to hold on to that 280x if it's still possible. A 40% at most power increase isn't something to rave about. Get a 1070/490 at least

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>AMDeads clinging to Vulkan
>Only 1 (One) AAA game uses it

>>55650855
I've been keeping close eye on that fiasco.

>>55650433
>1060
>sli
>fare with time

>>55650509
>ignored the cherry picked ones
posts tpu that only benched gameworks games

kek

>>55650833
if guru3d is biased in favor of the 1060 then that's even more reason for me to get a 480

>>55650893
Its only BETA.
Its only ONE GAME.
Its only SOME GAME.
Nvidia DRIVER will FIX IT.
WHO CARES ABOUT DX12/VULKAN

>>55650908
Show me the gameworks games in the review.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti/

Hint: they don't exist, because gameworks wasn't even a thing then.

Fucking retard.

>>55650893
so what? DX11 games will only decrease, and DX12 + Vulkan games will only increase in numbers.

>>55650933
my bad forgot that tpu was actually good back then

>>55650929
Have any games confirmed Vulkan support in the future?

>>55650893
>two of the most licensed engines already support it
>first commercial title is a massive success both commercially and technologically
>meanwhile dx12 implementations are shoddy as fuck

vulkan is turning out great actually

>>55650911
its less biased but they do bend their results..

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>toms shillware uses project cars as a legitimate benchmark

>>55650954
there's not much point to porting existing games seriously, unless they're projected to have huge lifespans or also act as technical demos (eg Doom, AOTS)

but as I said earlier, Id tech supports it. UE4 supports. Unity/etc will follow. I am not at all scared for the future of Vulkan or (sadly) DX12 either.

>>55650954
Unreal Engine 4 (if they even enable async compute, probably wont given nvidia partnership)
Source 2 Engine
id Tech 6 Engine

Its actually good that they're baking the Vulkan in engines. This means more games will come out with Vulkan without needing to implement it themselves.

>>55650991
what is the hold up with source 2 are they still waiting to finish the half life 3 tech demo to launch it already?

>>55650893
AMD is rewriting their DX11 and lower drivers too. nVidia's advantage will be gone when they release.

http://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/070216/why-amd-acquiring-graphics-specialist-hialgo-amd-intc-nvda.aspx?partner=newscred

Combined with the fact AMD is in every console so new games will have no excuse to skimp on asynch and intrinsic shaders unless they're being paid off by nvidia.

AMDomination is on it's way.

>>55651012
valve is suffering from company culture issues IMO.

it seems there's no direction these days other than keeping the current cash cows afloat. steamos is going nowhere. source 2 is going nowhere. they're not even pretending to work on HL3 anymore.

their lack of hierarchy is biting them in the ass.

>>55651055
>>55650958
>>55650929
We already heard all this shit when the 480 was getting released and AMD always end up at the bottom.
What's going to change this time?

>>55651055
the problem with dx11 isnt the drivers when people will understand this..
gcn wasnt created with a single path render in mind amd was trying to create a driver that will push one workload into many
didnt worked and never will because they cant

>>55651126
Win10 adoption
Vulkan being baked into all major OS/platform.
Consoles taking advantage of mature API
Devs getting more familiar with async compute/DX12/Vulkan due to all above

Its a perfect storm.

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Thanks Nvidiamark!

>>55648735
>1060 boost is 1938Mhz (50% higher than 480's)
>only manages 7% perf difference at 1080p
Topkek, this architecture is a joke.
Expect AIB 480s to slaughter this thing.

>>55651189
holy shit 1938 is the actual boost? kek 30% out of the box already oc oh shit i wanna see that card after 10 mins of benching it

I backordered the 1060 from Newegg just to lock in the $250 price, but this might be my last Nvidia card. Speaking as a long time Nvidia user, I can see the writing on the wall. Vulkan is the future, and if Nvidia doesn't step up by the time I need a new card (this thing will probably last me a few more years at least, I am currently on a GTX 660 2GB, so this will be a massive leap forward for me), then I will likely be going with AMD for my next card.

If anyone hasn't seen the new n64 Vulkan emulator, check this shit out: http://www.libretro.com/index.php/nintendo-64-vulkan-low-level-emulator-parallel-pre-alpha-release/

After checking the reviews, the Time Spy and Firestrike scores and the price I decided to pre order the Nitro+ (Again. As I cancelled once already).

The 1060 may score better in some games (the gimped games that is) but it's overall price to performance ratio looks disappointing and looking forwards with DX12 and Vulkan it's performance will only drop off.

>>55651228
Vulkan is the future until Nvidia ends up paying enough develops to ignore it that it becomes a moot point

>>55651212
>after 10 minutes
You don't want to see that