GTX 1060

>>55633139
>Which one are you goinf to buy?

Sapphire 480 Nitro+ is going to piss in the most superclocked 1060

>>55633139
R9 Nano, since they've begun selling the Fury cards off cheap and they're monsters in DX12.

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the cute one :3

>>55633139
gigabyte senpai

>>55633266
heh kid

>>55633324
Triggered, fanboy cuck?

>>55633364
yes you are, loser poorfag

>>55633266
Enjoy your housefire

>>55633272

This form factor actually appeals to me. Unless, of course, the single fan solution makes a lot of noise.

>>55633470
>>55633402
Please boys, this is a technology board, not a normiebook meme site.

>>55633563

Is one fan enough to keep it cool?

>>55633402
That's what I thought.

>>55633470
The Nano has a 175W TDP. Enjoy your dank memes, little fancuck.

>>55633563

Then go buy a Nano - its a considerably faster chip.

>>55633615
Pajeet it's just about time for your shift replacement

>>55633622

If you seriously believe a chibi 1060 is going to outperform a nano you are in for a disapointment - all the nano is is a fury x with a minor drop in clocks and a tighter limit on power draw/voltage in the default bios.

Given the fury x/170/980ti all perform very similar your chibi 1060 is in no way going to be that fast.

>>55633622
>nVidiots getting jewwed this hard lmao

>>55633622
Thanks friend. Want to go for a shit on the beach when we get out?

How will 1060 perform?

Almost like GTX 980?

>>55633699
Better than stock 480 in DX11.
Much weaker in DX12/Vulcan.

Aftermarket 480s will probably pull even with it. the 1060 will also be more expensive.

>>55633736

I don`t know what to do. I`ve buillt new PC without graphics card. I`m going to play GTA V mostly.

I heard that rx 480 fries motherboards. I don`t want my MSI Gaming M5 fried ._.

>>55633699
The leaks so far suggest overclocked 970/stock 980 territory, just like the 480. A pair of utterly underwhelming cards really.

>>55633783
>I heard that rx 480 fries motherboards. I don`t want my MSI Gaming M5 fried ._.

Congratulations on falling for dumb memes, friend. Despite it being a completely non-issue and there being zero credible reports of the "problem" causing any damage (despite someone trying to manufacture one by burning his motherboard with a lighter), AMD tuned and fixed it via a driver update a week ago anyway.

You still absolutely shouldn't buy a stock 480 though. Or any stock card. They're all trash.

>>55633139
Zotac cuz 5 years warranty, i'm scared after most of my AYYYMD cards died in 2-3 years.

>>55633139
If 1060 cheaper and faster than RX480...

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>>55633783
The RX 480 does not fry motherboards. And most certainly not a new one. The problem has been fixed within less than a week.

>https://www.techpowerup.com/223981/amd-releases-pci-express-power-draw-fix-we-tested-confirmed-works

pic related shows the motherboard that died after having a 480 installed. It wouldn't have lived long regardless.

>>55633820
well it is faster in Europe, and gtx 1060 should oc to 2000-2100mhz easily which gives 6fps boost from 1700mhz stock which should be 12-20 fps more than rx 480 in dx11. That's just for $10 more if you live in US.

>>55633783
Aftermarket coolers will fix that problem easily. You shouldn't be buying shit stock coolers anyway, this goes both for Nvidia and AMD.

AMD already fixed any potential for cards to fry motherboards through drivers, and aftermarket coolers will further assure that it is impossible to happen.

>>55633856
i meant it's cheaper* i'm tired my brain just want to me to go off to bed

Which one shall I buy? The rx 480 model of course!

Buy whichever card gives the best performance to price ratio you can afford (and is available of course).

Ignore shills for either team. Also consider going forward things like DX12 as it could influence results in the next couple of years.

480 will have a slight edge in dx12 and 1060 a slight edge in dx11.
they're basically equal since you'll be playing dx11 games in 60 fps with the 480 anyway, the 1060 gaining 10 more fps at that point doesn't make a difference.

So which one should I buy? I don`t care if It`s 200$ or 279$ because prices in europoor are almost the same for RX 480 and GTX 1060.

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Will buy this of course.

>>55633139
The Quadro.

1060 is a cuck card. im getting a 480.

>>55633813

>(despite someone trying to manufacture one by burning his motherboard with a lighter)

Got a source? I'm curious.

>>55633927
well gtx 1060 oc to 2000mhz (from 1700mhz) and gain 6 more fps on average while amd can't oc more than 50mhz

>>55633933
depends what you want it for. you're right about them being the same price here in euroland so decide what you want from each card. shadowplay? game streaming? dx12 performance? you also have to take into account your cpu. if you have anything less than a 4670k you're probably going to get bottlenecked with the amd card in dx11.

the 1060 better be at least 15% faster otherwise why bother, i'd much prefer the 480's 2gb extra memory. in my experience the first thing that bottlenecks an old gpu is the lack of video memory as titles get more and more hungry for it.

i dont see anyone filling 8gb at 1080p anytime soon

>>55633933
gtx 1060 is 10% stronger without oc, and 15% stronger after oc in dx11, in dx12 it's ~5% stronger without oc, and ~10% stronger with oc in dx12

>>55634134
that's why getting rx 480 is pointless since it's a weaker overall card, also oc really bad

>>55634120

>trufax

>>55634130
I own i5-6600k. I won`t use any Nvidia special functions. I just want to play current games in decent FPS

>>55634130
don't be retarded, even gtx 1080 won't have bottleneck with oced i5 2500k

>>55634161
RX 480 is the card for you, then. Wait for Aftermarket.

>>55634161
>gtx 1060 is 10% stronger without oc, and 15% stronger after oc in dx11, in dx12 it's ~5% stronger without oc, and ~10% stronger with oc in dx12

>>55634161
if it's down to fps metrics then wait for benchmarks. what games will you be playing? witcher 3? fallout? if so then nvidia obviously because gameworks. if you're going to be playing games like doom, hitman or ashes of the singularity then amd obviously because of mantle based optimization.

also i'm not 100% sure about this but i've heard nvidia drivers work better with older games like the splintercell 1 which is free on uplay right now.

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>>55634187
>speaking out of your ass

the i5 2500k oc is weak as fuck when it comes to cpu intensive scenes. just look at these frametimes.

>So tomorrow we will see how GTX 1060 performs.

So, tomorrow we will see how Shills perform.

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RX480 - cannot use its compute power in conjunction with waifu2x
1060 - gracefully scales images with waifu2x using Nvidia's CUDA™

It's really not a competition at this point.

>>55634286

They will be working double shifts given the damage done by doom's vulkan patch.

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>>55634357
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/41136-wells-fargo-puts-nvidia-on-last-stage

Nvidia is finished and bankrupt
alt sauce http://seekingalpha.com/news/3193401-nvidia-wells-downgrades-underperform-due-renewed-competition-amd-intel


I've always thought that gaming graphic cards were the smallest part of their revenues. I used to think that pro graphics and supercomputer stuffs dwarfed the consumer segment.

>>55634120
the AIB cards are going to run at 1350mhz which is 200mhz over the stock cooler so you're wrong. realistically it will all even out in the end and both cards will perform the same. the 1060 is a cuck card though like someone said because it's going to be deprecated in 2 years when everything is dx12.

unless you upgrade every two years (most people dont) and really want physx, gameworks, shadowplay and all that jazz then I'd get the 1060.

>>55634251
>USING AMD CARD AS BENCHMARK OF CPUS
>AMD STILL HAVE HUGE DRIVER CPU OVERHEAD

TOP KEK

>>55634419

>seekingalpha
>ever being negative about Nvidia

Jesus christ shit must be gonig down for seeking alpha to not be hailing Nvidia as the greatest ever.

>>55633139
Depends on euro prices.
If it costs more than 280 euro I will be getting a rx470 crossfire or the power color rx480.

Because fuck that shit, it doesn't even have SLI.

>>55634424
1060 - short term card
RX 480 - long term

You'll experience buyers remorse if you purchase the RX 480 right now; but you'll feel vindicated in around 1 year+

You'll feel correct in your decision to purchase a 1060 right now; but you'll feel buyers remorse in 1 years+ from now.

>>55634495
DELEET DIS

>>55634495
nigga why would the 480 giving anyone buyers remorse. I agree with the 1+ year thing but the card performs fine as it is now. with higher clock speeds from aib partners it will perform more than well.

>>55634521
>why would the 480 giving anyone buyers remorse

mainly in account of the shilling saturations attacks that started last month and will become even worse from this week up until SIGGRAPH

No one will come out of it untainted. RX480 buyers will feel dirty for a good solid trimester.

>>55634234

GTA V, CS:GO, Witcher 3

>>55634495
I'd actually hold on both cards because retards hyping up cards and inflating prices.

>>55634572
marked as one of the stupidest comment I ever seen.

>>55634419
hoffman saying something bad for nvidia

that is new kek

>>55634650
I agree with you partially.

Just note that there's a good amount of people who have been withholding their GPU upgrades due to the node shrink delays. Long term buyers probably have reached the limits of their patience -- and I'm at that same spot. I had to focus quite hard to avoid being tempted by the refrence RX480's and I doubt I'll manage to wait 1 or 2 months more the reference prices stabilize (which anyone with half a brain should... but impatient folks lose half their brains, so...)

>>55634633
>GTA V

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/15.html

the 1060 should be around 980 performance so ~11 fps more then the 480

>CS:GO

this game will run on a toaster so it doesn't matter which gpu you buy. you can probably run this at 60 fps on intel integrated graphics

>Witcher 3

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/20.html

again, the 1060 should be around 980 performance so ~8fps more than the 480.

based on these 3 games i'd recommend the 1060 (assuming it actually performs as advertised) but it's ultimately down to your own personal preference.

>>55634772
kek you recommend an nvidia card based on gameworks games?

>>55634772
What if he wants to play new games such as Hitman or Doom on Vulkan or Total War Warhammer? And if he has a 60 hz monitor, that 11 fps more in gta V will mean little. Same for Witcher.

>>55634789
are you really this thick? he was asked which games he'll be playing when buying a new gpu and he said those 3 games. i simply provided benchmarks based on those 3 games performance at 1080p which just happened to favor nvidia. gtfo with your butthurt.

>>55633266
enjoy your 12 shitty games and windows botnet.

>>55634801

I was asking about this games. I own i5-6600k and 60 hz monitor. I`m not really hyped about Hitman or TTW

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>>55634801

DX12 doesn't count!

>>55634801
benchmarks comparing a card that isnt out yet

kek

>>55634801
see

>>55634234

and the response >>55634633

>>55634826
In theory GTX 1060 is 15% faster so he calculated it.

>>55634821
So you intend to play only those 3 games for the next 4 years?

>>55634845
what theorism is that?

>>55633840
and yet it did fry motherboards. so it is a motherboard killer. if a baby killer stops killing babies does that make him not a baby killer.

take a rest Pajeet your curry is getting cold and your street is unshat in.

>>55634868

Does this mean every Nvidia powered laptop will have its screen fucked? That happened once ergo by your logic it will always happen.

>>55634859
No, this year. I`m not interested in Hitman or any other known dx12 titles that are coming
>>55634863
Nvidia info

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>>55634826
>power of gtx 980
>gtx 980
>simple implication of 1060 = ~980

it's a simple comparison which you are too stupid to get your head around.

>>55634892
it didn't happen with every nvidia mobile model gpu you silly hindu.

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hmm...as good as an almost 20 year old card

it really makes you think

>>55634895
don't be silly anon.
the 1060 gonna surpass the 1080 by 30 to 40%

>>55634816
Enjoy being a cucked fanboy who gets upset people buying a different brand of graphics card.

>>55634892
that was a windows 10 problem
most people in the real world haven't fallen for windows 10 pajeet.

>bbbut my dx12
>12 games

A 1060 is the best card because it sucks all your money out of your bank account quicker than a black hooker drops her panties at the sight of cocaine.

>>55634936
i don't give a shit what card you or anyone buys. don't cite a failing graphics standard as a reason any one is better than the other. dx12 will have no bearing on the game market for years.

i think you're projecting, you should talk to someone about that.

>>55634909

1080 has a 256bit bus and it isn't bandwidth throttled.

Sorry pajeet, but the 1060 is going to outsell the 480. The 480 doesn't even have AIB partner cards out yet and it released 3 weeks ago!

>>55634895
so basicly the 1060 will be DOA on dx12

The benchmarks will show a slight speed increase with the 1060. Assuming this means it is faster thna a 480 will be an incorrect conclusion since the 1060 willl be available as Non-Reference from the start with only small gains on overclocking. The 480 however is still waiting on AIB cards to be released. I suspect they are waiting on the 1060 partner cards benchmarks to tweak up the 480 to beat it (double dipping in marketing terms). Overclocks on the 480 past 1350Mhz will most likely wipe the floor with the 1060. But we shall see. I can wait a couple more weeks to know for sure and I would not buy a 1060 no matter what (More likely I would buy a 1070 if anything).

>>55635003
>but the 1060 is going to outsell the 480.

this is a given. nvidia will always outsell amd no matter how competitive amd's product is. look at the 960 vs 380, the 380 was actually slightly better but its sold way way less than the 960, which is currently the 2nd most used graphics card in the world after the 970.

EVGA is pretty god tier, I'd go for that if I didn't have my 1070 already. Also the Mini-ITX form factor is awesome.

>>55635088

That's because NVIDIA's tech isn't garbage. AMD has been turning out shit that's been halting the advance of computing since they started competing with intel.

AMD is a bunch of basement dwellers leeching off of the hard work of companies who actually do R&D.

>>55635085
1060 actually beats the 480 in DX12...and in everything.

>>55633139
>Which one are you going to buy?

Zotac amp IF it comes cheaper than Sapphire's Nitro.

>>55635088
I don't really care if Nvidia sells a shitload more than AMD to be honest. Just as long as educated buyers can buy the better value card. Whether that be AMD of Nvidia. Looking at the way things are right now I would say it is looking more likely that the RX 480 AIB cards are going to be the better deal unless the 1060 pulls something out of it's ass like being a crazy overclocker and high availability at MSRP or something.

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>>55635088
380 was not better. It used more power, put off more heat and had a much higher failure rate.

The problem with AMD cards is they are cheap shit, and in the end you get what you pay for.

>>55635147
I heard it's gonna be like the second cumming of Christ. On a side note. You're a faggot.

>>55635187
Sorry you can't handle the truth.

>>55635147
How do you know that?

>>55635147
kek they had to paid 3dmark to actually remove the async and introduce their own version as async

>>55635179
that is some next level shill

>>55635179
>Shows R7/R9 GPU's from 2013
>When coin mining was popular and GPU's were being run overclocked 24/7 for months.
>When XFX stopped doing lifetime warranties when people were returning 100 GPU's at a time.
>When AMD cards were not even seeing a Steam account to get a statistical analysis of most used card in gaming.
Sure bud.

>>55635215
See

>>55635218
GPU's are not designed to be run at full load continuously. Do the same with an Nvidia card and it will burn out too. Heat kills electronics over time. This is why it's not a good idea to buy used R9 290's off Ebay.

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>>55635201

>>55635179
to be fair the 380 and 960 were within like 5 fps of each other in most games with the 380 always having the slight advantage but yes, the 380 did run hotter and used more power to achieve those results.

>>55633949
Howtoinstallamddrivers.png

>>55635218
The AMD GPUs failed during testing before they were even put into use by the customer. Has nothing to do with mining or anything like that, AMD GPUs are just inherently failure prone because they are made poorly.

>>55635267
Citation link needed

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>>55633139
I do not understand why people would spend 300 bucks on this card

I got a used aftermarket 980ti with 1,5 years of warranty left on it for 350 euro.

>inb4, muh used products

Used products alsways have the best price/performance ratio, and they are a great buy if you buy them from a website with a good rating system.

I buy from a AIB partner that offers a good warranty scheme so I am not too bothered. EVGA ftw.

>>55635267
kek using a 2014 that says
>and includes game benchmarks (currently X3: Terran Conflict, AvP: Alien vs Predator, and Unigine Heaven Pro 4.0) as well as what we call our "stress test". This test consists of running Prime 95 and Furmark on the system at the same time to put the system under an extreme load

and then
>We primarily use Asus DirectCU cards whenever possible, and the basic Asus models when there are not DirectCU versions available

kek being this bias that used only ONE VENDOR to showcase that all the cards are shit

kek

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>>55633840
>>55634868
I overclocked my rx480 and tried to wreck my board cause I can get free replacements with no such luck. I know it's just one case but I mean I tried pretty hard at one point I have my overclock at 1385 and fan rpm at 4500 running benches for about 48 hours straight.

>>55635344
Yeah I just found where that chart came from. Total bunked bullshit. Running Furmark etc continuously is just as bad as coin mining 24/7. The GPU's are not meant to run at full load continuously. Gaming only stresses the GPU to 100% and then falls back a bit now and then during a session and nobody games 24/7. Electronics get hot and heat causes them to fail over time.

>>55635201
Ask him where those benches are from...
>>55635250

I think I`m gonna buy GTX 1060.

19 hours left.

>>55635400
Interesting.

Then how come the Nvidia GPUs didn't fail?

I guess Nvidia is just much more stable.

>>55633927
1060 actually beats 480 in dx12

>>55635729
We will be 100% sure tomorrow

>>55635714
because surely using just one vendor for amd and multiple for nvidia is the best way to conduct such a test right?
kek

>>55633615
>r9 nano - $550
>1060 - $250

Yeah the 1060 sounds much better.

>>55635754
>1060 - 350 euros
>used r5 230 - 20 euros
the 230 sounds much better, by your same logic

>>55634198
1060@1900Mhz vs 480@1350Mhz the 1060 loses, which is pretty attainable for stock 480 cards, not to mention third party coolers.

Aftermarket models will get upwards of 1400-1500, while the 1060 is completely tapped for OC potential at 1900-2100Mhz.

480 will win this round, mark my words.

>>55635898
Only difference is the r5 230 is shit

>>55635900
1060 beats the 480 easily

>>55635900
Lol it doesn`t lose.

Word is the reason why so many AIB 480's are taking forever to be released is they are all trying to fill backorders of the reference model. Supposedly (from Gibbo) sapphire alone have 5000 backorders for the reference model and had to delay the nitro just so they can fill the orders.

>>55635908

Like the 1060.

>>55635908
so is any x60 card from nvidia, especially compared to a fucking nano
not to mention they're fucking overpriced

>>55635929
1060 is great

>>55635921
>nvidia cuckboy, grow 12 more inches to your dick, EASY

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>>55635950

>>55635900
>Aftermarket models will get upwards of 1400-1500

this is objectively incorrect. very few people have been able to achieve 1400 mhz let alone 1500 mhz. polaris does not overclock well and is almost already tapped out right from the factory. i expect most aftermarket vendors to release the 480 with a 1300mhz factory overclock and that'll be the extent of aftermarket 480s other than the highly binned $300 aftermarket chips.

Dunno about USA but AMD has such a bad reputation in Europe that literally everything their release is DoA.

>>55635929
>supposedly
in UK nobody touches 480RX with a stick unless it's a sapphire. 480RX Nitro is sold out in preorder phase, everything else is gathering dust. Also when it comes to AIB 480 is just another paper launch.

>>55636093

You do know who Gibbo is right? He owns OCUK.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=29795238#post29795238

>>55636056
Well deserved, AMD makes cheap garbage

>>55636127
How is that colliding with what I just said? Everyone wants dem Nitros, rest 480RX are utter shit and lay in stock. Go see yourself.

>>55633139
The one that is affordable

>>55636145

Maybe because he explicitly mentions its 5k back orders of the reference model? Not 5k back orders of the nitro. The whole point is reference models are selling out due to demand.

>>55636056
amd is also more expensive in a lot of places in europe.

>>55633139
I'm waiting for the 3GB versions probably

>>55636175
But that's just fucking wrong. They're in stock as we are speaking.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-379-sp.html

>+10 in stock)

>>55636193

>delayed until december as they will be marketed as the 1050

>>55636223

That doesn't exclude what Gibbo said - all it means is that OCUK have a load in stock, not that there is no demand for reference.

>>55633949
um, jewish card?

>>55636223
>>55636175
Also 480RX sales already died on Amazon too with 970 gtx/1070 gtx being back on top. Don't blame them though. I'd rather buy AiB 970 for less than 200 quid than a ref house fire for 260. Paper launches everywhere.

>>55636224
Well, I didn't want to play any video games anyway

>>55636247
But it literally does lol. If they had 5000 back orders you wouldn't see 10 of them in stock, they would be sold out.

>>55636253
RX 480 is retards card

>>55636287

Or maybe OCUK - being the largest UK supplier - got the lion's share. Sites like Scan, Novatech and Dab are probably sold out.

RX 480 SUCKS

480 = DOA

>>55635751
More like Nvidia throttling back because they are known for doing that (especially back then when the tests were done).

>>55635729
>>55635747
I am sure Nvidiamark will confirm this.
>This answer is sponsored by Galax

>>55636048
Not on the reference PCB no. AIB partners make their own PCB's and power connectors (8 pin for the Nitro) to stabilize the voltage under load. The additional cooling only helps them accomplish this but cooling alone is not the reason why AIB's will overclock better. Educate yourself before talking shit.

>>55636258
Probably because they are out of stock.

>>55636369
>>55637051
>>55637199
same fag

Also "DOA", card has already arrived. You're pretty retarded.

>>55636370
OCUK are also the exclusive first to get product partner for Sapphire. I remember when I got my R9 290 from them they had such a rush on the cards they had to get Sapphire to send them without any overclocks to get them here quicker. I got one slightly cheaper than an overclocked version because of this.

>>55637491

Off the top of my head they were the first UK site to have those rare 8gb 290x vapor-x models in (long before AMD let anyone else slap 8gb on their versions).

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>>55637476

>>55633139
I wait for a month or two like a person with half a brain until the dust settles and people already tested them out instead of falling for the hype and making a poor hype driven decision which you will certainly regret later.

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>>55637476
check mate

>>55637590
>>55637612

Not the same, just fags.

>>55637665
Sounds like you're retarded

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I can't decide if I want a 1080 or two 1070's

I've never done SLI before and I have no idea if there's a bunch of other shitty hassle or problems involved or if it's even worth it.

>>55637726
not worth it, always get the one stronger GPU

everyone and gods dog will say the same.

>>55637726
Yep. Get one 1080

>>55637726
As again in a year or two when mGPU is more commonplace.

>>55637726
Multiple GPUs are always shit

>>55637427
>all vendors will be using 8pin

Educate yourself before talking shit :^)

>>55634772
I can confirm, I run CSGO at 1080p 60fps on low settings with my i5 6500 and Hd 530

Would like to see CUDA performance rather than game performance.

Guise the 1060 gonna be awesome.
Nvidia spent a lot of effort to make sure the most common benchmarks show you just that:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1606224/various-futuremarks-time-spy-directx-12-benchmark-compromised-less-compute-parallelism-than-doom-aots-also

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>>55638450

>CUDA workloads
>on a x60 card

>>55638579

3Dmark has always favoured Nvidia over AMD. Off the top of my head in the likes of firestrike a 290x still scores below a 780ti but as we all know in actual vidya the 290x is faster.

>>55638630
That's probably illegal.

And it's very telling how all of the tech reviewers never bothered to bring this news to masses - as they did so quickly with the pci-gate.

>>55638450
You're a fucking retard.

>>55634953

So all games for the rest of time will be made with DX11?

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>>55638684

>That's probably illegal.

Its not - 3dmark just loves its tessellation (as it was one of the big features Nvidia touted way back when DX9 became a thing) and cranked it up to hammer gpus. It just hammers GCN harder.

The main issue with timespy is it really is just DX11: turbo benchmark which barely touches half of what DX12 can do because - shockingly - a low(er) level API needs vendor specific codepaths to run best.

> as they did so quickly with the pci-gate.

You know whats so hilarious about that? How it was found - tom's (iirc it was them) were testing the 480 in metro LL at 4k max settings. That game at 4k will cripple even a 1080 - no wonder it pushed a 480 so hard.

However your point stands, in general tech sites aren't as quick to have negative articles on Nvidia as they rely heavily on them free samples and Nvidia has thrown its weight around in the past (see: blacklisting tweaktown).

>>55638775

Who needs DX11? Its just a fad - nobody will move off DX9. Hell there are more DX9 games than DX11 so DX11 is irrelevant!

Joking aside I do find it amusing how /g/ has turned on DX12 so quickly when its become apparent AMD is seeing the biggest gains and - as of right now - the performance lead per tier in DX12 games.

The NDA end when?

>>55639186
15 hours

>>55638880
>That game at 4k will cripple even a 1080 - no wonder it pushed a 480 so hard.
Come on man, no matter how hard a card is pushed it's still supposed to take power from the 6 and 8 pin connectors not the damn motherboard PCI-E slot. Unless we are talking about a card with no extra power connectors. Taking more than the token amount of power from the motherboard is just so damn stupid. It's much less efficient than taking it directly from the PCI-E power connectors.

>>55638584
>>55638769
Why not if you're looking for cheap GPU computation?

What's the solution? Spend nearly twice ~$440 to get a quadro m2000 with slightly more than half the cores. (768 vs 1280).

I know there are the specific quadro drivers and the increase in double precision (I think, I couldn't find anything), but these would certainly seem comparable on the low end.

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>>55639381

>cheap GPU computation?

Well, again it depends on exactly what you are doing, but an old original gangster titan really is a quadro with less vram.

>>55633139
next card i get is evga

>>55639486
Why Evga? I`d like to know, because it`s my first card

>>55639520
evga makes quality shit at good prices and their support is top tier

>>55639520
Just like the aesthetics of the card. Apparently their customer service is godtier too. It's either that or I stick with Asus

>>55639446
It looks like they run around $350 on ebay with nearly 10 times the double precision of the 1060 and about 20% more single precision. That is a tremendous value if your first concern is computations.

>>55639520
Evga for Nvidia is like Sapphire for AMD

>>55639720
>>55639678
>>55639685

What about Palit and MSI?

>>55639715

Its only recently that the titan and titan black have dropped in price - their amazing double precision on the cheap (even when new vs quadro chips) meant they have kept their resale value. However these cards are now best part of 4 years old so prices have finally come down.

I wouldn't want to use them for gaming anymore though.

>>55639743
palit is not so good, MSI would be my second pick behind evga

>>55639520
My last 4 cards were EVGA and they've been solid performers. Every single one is still in use with no problems. The oldest one is an 8800GT.

>>55638880
>I do find it amusing how /g/ has turned on DX12 so quickly when its become apparent AMD is seeing the biggest gain

So fucking true.

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>>55639743
>>55639768
To be fair, they are ALL good nowadays

>>55633139
Ok OP now is tomorrow, where the fuck are my benchmarks?

>>55639868
Hahaha OP here. It`s 00:56 for me.
We have to wait 14 hours.... fucking America

ITT: AMD marketers replying to nvidia marketers

>>55635145
>halting the advance of computing
is actually contingent the global economics and socio-economics. babyboomers fucked it up for everyone and people have 50% less disposable income. I'm not a brand name fanboy of any type but you need to place blame where it belongs.

making a jump from a gt 240, so im just waiting on whichever is ib stock

2 days ago a shit PSU fried my GTX 770, I just want the 1060 to release already so I can see if I should go for it. Not going for the RX 480 because AMD (and most PC hardware) is incredibly overpriced in Europe.

>>55640269
get a RX 480
perfectly double.

that's the autists' choice.

>>55633139
RX460 because I had a GTX680 that died due to nvidia drivers. And because the 460 is estimated be within 10% of the performance of the 680. I dont play anything demanding anymore, all modern games suck dick.

>>55635145
AMD's hardware is technically superior but so much worse on the software side that they struggle in games and benchmarks until the drivers catch up with the hardware.

Make no mistake though, AMD's architecture is objectively "better" than Nvidia's as far as the future of graphics is concerned (low-level APIs, mGPU).

This is pretty obvious to see if you're able to read between the lines on Nvidia's positioning on various software issues and if you know anything about graphics hardware. Nvidia beginning to discourage SLI as a feature with Pascal is no coincidence. Anything that trends toward mGPU and/or asynchronous compute is bad for Nvidia until their next fully developed arch is ready to roll out. Basically, they're stalling. They want to continue the paradigm of needing one big fat piece of silicon at the center of your graphics solution until they have an arch that isn't nailed down by DX11, which is looking more and more ancient every day that passes.

>>55640374
actually leaning towards aftermarket 480s because they mightbe cheaper

>>55633139
I decided to sneak in and buy an Asus Strix 8gb 390x while they are on offer and around the same price as a non-reference RX 480 8gb.
Yes, I realise a 390x is basically a 290x+, but if I'm going to go single card only I'd rather get one I can overclock comfortably, and has been tried and tested.

Plus it can handle high temps. I mean its constantly on a high temp. That's it's secret.

>>55640427
AMD's hardware is garbage.

Horrible power efficiency, over voltage that will actually kill your motherboard and failure rates way higher than Nvidia (see >>55635179)

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>>55640832

>>55633139
>1060

I'm waiting to see what Vega can do, if it sucks I'm buying a 1080.

fuck anything else

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>>55640427
>so much worse on the software side that they struggle in games and benchmarks until the drivers catch up with the hardware

that's what you get when devs are literally sabotaging them. They need a full year to catch up undoing the shit.

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>>55640832
>AMD's hardware is garbage.

Those failure rates "in the field" (whatever that means) are so similar in most cases that they might as well be within margin of error. Without knowing exactly how they test it's impossible to comment on why the AMD cards fail more in their test. The list of trustworthy third party evaluators is running pretty slim and I forget who did that test you're referring to.

AMD has had, in some part anyway, worse power efficiency because they've needed to push their GPUs to the limit to compete in DX11 workloads, which are inherently shit for GCN. I'm not even going to comment on the "over voltage" because you obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about re: RX 480.

>>55641052
Yeah the TimeSpy thing is a debacle for Nvidia but fortunately for them the nuances of how the benchmark is doctored up for them are too difficult for the average pleb to understand. Just another thing that will get swept under the rug.

>>55641052
>>55641156
Are you saying the 480 TimeSpy Demos and been dx11?

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>Nvidia canto Dx12
>Nvidia bribes Futuremark to show that they can
>Nvdiots all over the internet relentlessly show graphs for 5-10% gains in a Dx12 benchmark (specifically tailored for them)

>(which favored AMD more even in its worst possible case scenario).


we can still win this bois.

>purposely waiting to buy a cuck tier poorfag card

literally fuck off with this shit, the 1080 is the most powerful card literally ever made, and it would be a mistake not to buy it. Thanks to BASED Nvidia, you can get an unmatched power from a single card that outperforms any shit tier AMDrone cuck card, especially the fucking firehouse fury, and there's literally no excuse for not buying a superior Nvidia card. Also any jelly AMDrone cuck that tries to rebute this needs to fuck off, one: there's no argument for superiority, two: AYYMD opinion dis""Carded""... Also don't expect anything near as good from AMDrone, the 490x? more like the 490nothankyou

inb4 muh powerdraw
inb4 muh temps
inb4 muh powerdraw

fuck off, there is nothing from with a 450 watt TPD, and 100C is a temp the card was tested to run at, so it literally doesn't fucking matter.

also any NVidia "fans" waiting for the 1060 need to literally fuck off, there is no point buying a shit tier entry level budget card that won't run any games in 6 months and will need to be upgraded in 3 months.

>>55641156
Sounds like you're the one that has no idea. Nice damage control though.

>>55641156
>dead cards.
I wonder if miners running 1000's of AMD cards 24/7 for 6 months straight had something to do with it.

they probably skewed the statistics quite hard.

>>55641290
Notice the failure rates for AMD cards are extremely high for testing, this means before they were ever put in use.

AMD cards just fail a lot because they are cheap garbage.

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>>55641288
Nice counter argument.

>>55641304
How were they testing again? What constitutes a failure?

>>55641341
The AMD cards fail during a stress test.

>>55638085
I never said that you cunt.

>>55641304
>>55641351
Well, I'll take miners words over yours' and probably gonna go with XFX.

>buying a budget card that will be totally outdated in a year
It'd end up being cheaper to buy a GTX 1070.

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this is a hard one to shill for. One can spin it negatively or positively.

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>>55638880
>tweaktown deserve it. image related when I just went to their site.

>>55641379
Typical AMDrone, ignoring all evidence.

>>55641415
>people are buying the reference turds instead of really good non-reference cards

Bet it's the shitty coin miners. If anything will ever kill AMD, it's those fags buying up all of AMDs shit and making AMD irrelevant in gaming.

>>55641227
True Dx 12 implementations come with the premise of vendor specific code paths, as MS, AMD and Nvidia agreed upon at GDC

Futuremark chose only one of those -- that alone makes it invalid. Falsified by the standards defined together by all of the parties involved.

But isnt 1060 already maxing out 1080p?

>>55641535
Typical Nvidiot, ignoring his own stupidity.

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>>55641566

>>55639799
Nobody but Nvidia fags have turned on DX12 (as they always have). AMD fans have turned on certain devs choosing to gimp it towards Nvidia's method of using async. In particular 3Dmark. At least with DX11 we all knew why there was a performance hit on AMD's cards. Now it's not so clear if devs are biased one way of the other.

>>55641585
But Nvidia does better than AMD at DX12 also now see >>55635250

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>>55641576
nope, me.
I'm a grill btw. ^^

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>>55641599
'no'

>>55641614
mods are asleep, post more amada

(need to make a folder)

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>>55641599
Allow me to counter-shill your poor attempt at shilling.

>>55641614
Nice try, we all know this is you >>55635970

>>55641585
It's quite clear that they are biased.
At least that moron from Futuremark that was posting at OCN and steam forums. He was unarguably a Nvidiot in his speech and behaviour.

>>55641636
You can't compare benchmarks from two different tests, you realize they have different settings

>>55640832
>>55641156
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/

They tested a bunch of shitty cards using Furmark combined with other applications that stressed the GPU to the max. Pretty much burning them out. Nvidia on the other hand we lal know throttled back their GPU's at that time so didn't burn out. AMD only suffered because they did not throttle. That was also why coin mining killed so many cards but also offered the best perormance (not forgetting async compute of course) in order to mine coins.

Basically the testing was meaningless. Also Asus (and XFX when they were shit).

>>55641676
>it's all just a big conspiracy

Or maybe, you know, Nvidia is actually faster.

>>55641687
If tons of AMD cards are failing under a stress test, that's a very bad sign.

>>55633949
dude don't buy something with jewish satanic shit on it that's just inviting evil

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>>55641682
<- you

>>55641722
Sorry you can't handle the truth

>>55641682
>All games are set to their highest quality setting unless indicated otherwise.

>yfw Nvidia graph isn't at Max settings.

>>55641536
Like I have said before. Most of those R9's etc never saw a Steam account (Buh the 970 is the most popular gaming card ever nigga!).

>>55641585
I think anyone who isn't retarded is turning on Windows 10 for being an abomination. Maybe there is a correlation between people who use AMD graphics cards and retardation.

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Please get hyped up more faggots. You will all be disappointed like everyone was for the 480. They are both terrible cards.

Go do some overtime 1 day on the weekend at your job at mcdonalds or go offer to help some old woman with their computer and use the money to get a 1070.

If all you could ever afford is the 1060 you need to change your priorities and maybe console gaming is for you.

If mommy is buying it for you and you are just trying to justify it online to other neckbeards (some of us actually have money) you really should just do us a favor and end your life.

>>55641699
No that'spretty much a fact now.

Now this is conspiracy >>55641687
They must've used a modified stuxnet on AMD cards for those tests.

>>55641804
but the 1060's gonna outperform the 1080's by 66% anon!!1!

>>55641713
I think they had like 10 cards. Probably sourced from the same place. A bit like buying hard disks from one retailer for RAID. Never a good idea.

>>55641828
>nvidia is faster
>it must be a conspiracy

AMDrone logic folks.

>>55641803
Irrelevant and just being rude for the sake of being rude. If I could block you I would.

>>55641857
Uhh they tested over 2000 cards a year, the AMD ones kept failing way more often

>>55641884
Underage detected.

>>55641803
>Maybe there is a correlation between people who use AMD graphics cards and retardation.

Well you do have to be pretty dumb to buy an AMD card, so it makes sense.

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>ayymd poors can't handle the fact that their pos poorfag card performs worse than nvidia's quality gpus

you get what you pay for

>>55641889
Perhaps. But it does not mean it still holds true. Plus only one site shows this, a bit like that cloud storage company Backblaze that tested all those hard disks which was kinda debunked a while back.

>>55641868
yeah, like all of that heavy useless tesselation is just to stress the GPU's, I swear guise.
and, also, like we followed the exact guidelines from Nvidia themselves to deploy Dx12 while ignoring any other stuff that could improve its competition just so we could remain unbiased and "hardware agnostic".

Why do Nvidia fanboys always get so abusive and cocksure?

hey guys i support amd and i suck dick lmao

>>55641959

it's the other way around.

people who own 1080s and 1070s are out playing games enjoying themselves and recording gameplay with shadowplay while the amd fanboys shitpost about how great their RX 480s are and how nvidia is literally the devil cuz gameworks.

>>55641959
>>55641982
Point proven.

>>55642000
Then they should leave and stop posting insults.

>>55642000
Exactly. AMD has nothing going for them, so the fanboys just have to spend all their time spinning.

>>55641946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7ECiXfMWQ

Their Dx12 is exactly what Nvidia told them to be.
Nothing to see here folks.


AMD is also a partner, we are always sure to get their feedback... so we devise other ways in which we can fuck them with plausible deniability.

>>55641804
not everyone lives in US so no thanks, also gtx 1070 is overpriced, and i'm saying that while having 740 usd on amazon account and waiting for gtx 1060 to order it

>>55642000
>>55642031
Shouldn't that refute your presence here?

>>55642102
We are the heros /g/ needs to fight against the AMD cancer

>>55642102
Maybe he doesn't have a 1080 or 1070.

>>55633563
dude i have a evga 750ti its like a mini jet engine

I'm still deciding between an rx460 and 470. I dont think I'll buy another nvidia card anytime soon. I'm pissed off at nvidia for two reasons.

1. I had a gtx770 but nvidia gimped my card with latest drivers and I cant go back to older drivers without severe compatibility issues

2. Founders edition bullshit. I was dead set on getting a 1070 until they started going for over 500$ in my area, and newegg doesn't have any of the sub 420$ variants in stock.

I hope to get something atleast on par with my 770 hopefully a little better.

>>55635754
>1060
>$250

That's adorable, it'll be $300 minimum.

>>55642338
We'll see tomorrow how the 3rd party companies price their cards. MSRP is $249

To all those people actually buying GTX 1060's. I sincerely hope the performance is as good as Nvidia says it will be. I also sincerely hope you will be able to purchase them at a reasonable price. Please enjoy your purchase and good gaming!

To any who are not purchasing a GTX 1060 (AMD fans excluded) and are just trolling from the sidelines I say a...

BIG FUCK YOU!

>>55642236
>gimped meme
Please kys

Related
Is there a comparison of 1070s anywhere? I was looking for one with 2 DVI out so I wouldn't have to change anything but that looks nonexistent, so I have no real requirements

>>55642076
wut?

are you saying USA is cheaper? then saying the 1070 is too expensive in the USA?

>>55642236
Get a 480.
Or you can get a 470 and when it stop being enough you can get another one for crossfire. Which works properly in dx12 games.

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>>55642236
what, you don't like being told when to update?

>>55642338
So the same as a 480.

What time will the 1060 come out?

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Gibbo the dude who runs OCUK has this to say on the delay with 480 AIB's.

'It is not the AIB's fault, AMD over-sold on reference so the GPU went to building more reference to clear those backorders.

Sapphire alone have 5000 backorders on RX 480 reference still to fulfill in just the UK alone, that is the reason.

People post so much BS up, the real reasons are simply RX-480 demand was way way above what AMD could ever predicted. Custom cards go into product this weekend at numerous board partners.'

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29795238&postcount=516

>>55642526
so what all 5 1080's ever made are oversold.

>>55642606
Kinda irritating to be honest. AMD threw all their stock into the reference cards and are now so short they have to fulfill back orders before they can provide GPU's to AIB's. Nvidia may also be in short supply at least on the 1070/1080's but they did at least provide AIB's at launch.

I think we can blame Ethereum miners to a degree. Those coin miners keep fucking over AMD as a gaming GPU. No wonder Nvidia is laughing. It just drives customers towards them.

AMD just cannot win even if their sales are through the roof.

>>55642358
329?
What do you need a 369 card for?
Ok I'll sell you one for 429 plus taxes.

>>55635179

I don't understand why people say AMD's video cards have terrible durability.

Were all of you in elementrary school when Nvidia screwed up on the Geforce 78xx and early 88xx chip substrate that caused the cards to have 4 years/100% fail rate? I still have 2 dead Geforce 8800 cards thanks to Nvidia.

Nvidia never admitted to this, let alone compensate owners like me.

>>55642760
To be clear, the 100% failure rate is for the M (mobile) nvidia 8xxx chips (my sisters have 2 dead laptops.)

But the desktop graphic cards are affected as well.

>>55642760
The stats speak for themselves, AMD cards fail at a much higher rate than Nvidia.

3 HOURS

>>55644011
9

>>55642760
>Were all of you in elementrary school when Nvidia screwed up on the Geforce 78xx and early 88xx chip substrate
Arguably it was TSMC's fault but yeah most of /g/ is going to be too young to remember that shit

My 8800GTX died approximately 3 years after buying it.

>>55642472
480 is $199-$240

>>55642660
AMD's still selling cards either way. They couldn't give 2 shits, though the AIBs are probably a little mad.

Selling too many cards isn't a bad thing for AMD ever.

First Youtube benches and leaks are coming in guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd1ghe9SriY
Some Hindoo dood he's funny as fuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-W8cALNlx0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnnhWAB1XPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbNLArsYY8Q

Here have at it.

http://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIIAg%253D%253D&q=gtx+1060

>>55644079
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd1ghe9SriY
AMD IS FINISHED

>>55644112
Lel, 480 destroyed

>>55644112
DELETE THIS

>>55644079
>>55644112
These r legitamit reviews pls uplike and sucribe

thx n hv a blessed day this day and all of yours remaining beauteious feutures

-- ranjit afghenejamhad

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>>55644112

>>55644230

>>55644264
Does that guy even speak English?

Tandoori poppadom head we believe you!

>>55642071
Futuremark's logic

>Tesselation is a good way to measure how a GPU can perform under the most stressful scenario possible.

Fanbois should take that into account and realize the necessity to always push the technology forward. A good benchmark tool must always aim for the most dire circumstances independent of each competitors own strentghs.


>There's a need to remain unbiased and not play favorites. The code path chosen for Directx 12 deploys the lowest common denominator between vendors aiming for the best compatibility between all currently available cards ensuring that no one gets an unfair or perceived advantage; as is evidenced by the fact that all of the tested cards have shown noticeable performance gains.

Fanbois should take in account the difficulties of software development accross varied hardware and it's economical unfeasibility. A good benchmark tool must always aim for a good balance between the strentghs of each competitors.


seriously, fuck those bitches. can't trust blogger/reviewers, serious journalists... and now not even benchmark developers anymore.

>>55644366
A proper benchmark should use every aspect a GPU and it's driver is capable of responding to to push that GPU to it's best resulting fps. That is how you compare apples to pineapples. Just shoving a standard set of instructions at both is stupid and does not give a clear result.

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>>55644079
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbNLArsYY8Q [Embed]

What was the point of this shit?

Does this clickbait video shit actually give them revenue?

>>55644079
>Some Hindoo dood he's funny as fuck

I'm actually surprised you didn't called him APOO.

>>55644415
I think it would be a good idea if both nvidia and AMD had their own benches. Both inhouse and optimized to heavens for their own hardware, but not locking each other out.

It would be a lot fairer than this debacle.

>>55644581
Something I already stated numerous times elsewhere but nobody listens. A blanket benchmark is no longer useful in the case of DX12 since it is closer to the metal.

>>55644581
>benchmarks made by gpu companies

Are you fucking serious? That's the worst idea ever.

>>55644112
0:33 fucked hard in a pussy

>>55644697
I think he means from Futuremark. Not from Nvidia and AMD.

>>55644697
At least we would know where we're standing on from the onset. And perhaps a good way to compare the cards from the other team -- or better yet, between generations.

Well, my naivity would expect that they only optimize for their own hardware and keep sabotage out of it. But I can understand your concern.

>>55644724
No, I meant in house development.
Call it benchmark or change it's name to product showcase, at least we have a firm footing and no hidden agendas.

>>55644697
Nvidia kinda subcontracts Futuremark for that already >>55644366

>>55644791
kys for even suggesting such a stupid idea.

>>55644757
That would be completely useless. There is no point in a benchmark that is geared toward one company because no comparisons can be made and in fact any of the results have no real world use whatsoever.

>>55644836
yeah, I get the brilliancy of 3DNVmarks by Futuremark.

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If you want a reliable benchmark, just test a bunch of real world games and aggregate the results together like techpowerup does.

After all, that's what these GPUs are going to be used for, right? For playing games. Test them in the actual environment.

>>55644909
>1070
>faster than a 1000w dual gpu with all the added benefits of not burning your house and stuttering like a retarded monkey

>>55644849
I just said that both companies should develop their own benchmarks to showcase their own products, not that they should become the reviewers goto holygrail.

Synthetic tests don't bring much of a real world correspondence, but are still legitimate metrics. Or should be, I'm kinda doubting that now.

>>55633840
>Bubble in pcb
It looks like a sticker partially off the board

I been waiting for an upgrade for my 7870 and the RX480 was such a disappointment for me , and I think the 1060 is gonna be what i have been looking for... I'm probably gonna go ASUS, MSI or Zotac

3,5 hour left. We have to wait...