GTX 1060: ITS OVER AMD

/g/-gpu

>>55459203
>wccftech

DESIGNATED

>>55459247
SHILLING

>>55459203
>$299 founder's edition

Oh boy! $60 more for a card that's maybe 5% better gaming than the RX 480 and worse at compute tasks.

>>55459203
>"""""$250""""" MSRP

So in reality the FE at $299 and custom cards priced above that, just like the other Pascal cards.

>>55459332
The way its meant to be played.
AMD has no drivers.

>>55459203
>it's another cuck's card thread

>>55459350
>$299
which is 270€
that means 350€ in europe
which is $390
nice

>>55459203
you are right its over

) 980 at 1500 has 6.14tf
and
2) 1060 on 2050(assuming it will go that far) will have 5.04....
also
3) 480 on stock has 5.1 tfops..
good luck with that...

>>55459292
SA-GE

>>55459245
i agree with you, degenerate tripfag

>>55459368
>TFLOPS as the only metric you care about.
Paper specs are great. Video games are what people buy this card for and all it needs to do is perform at the level of a 980 at stock and it already beats a 480 out. And since its pascal it will actually overclock.

When will this "Founders Edition" meme end?

>>55459373
SAGGE

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CRAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

>>55459203
Huh, is that the actual PCB?
If that's the actual PCB, the 1060 has a 256bit memory bus and what you're getting is a cut down card. I would assume this means that the 1060 Ti if it ever comes out will be the exact same chip but fully enabled.

>>55459399
tfops is a metric to consider when someone claims a +15% faster while having 2.5 tflops less...

>>55459436
>what you're getting is a cut down card

What a stunning revelation. No one has ever done this before in the history of the world.

>>55459436
no what you are seeing here is a 1060 that is already a cut down from a cut down with 192 bus
and no way to charge a TI on it....
unless nvidia is actually doing those cards to make 1070 look fantastic...

/g/pu

>>55459353
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!
Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>55459469
You're a fucking retard who either can't count components or can't do math. That is 192bits of bus width.
If those vacant chips were populated, the bus width would have to be 256bits. Nvidia MCs have 32 bit bus each.

>>55459482
Bruh, he's a shill. Now we know to associate that trip with shilling.

>>55459332
if you want a gpu to do compute tasks why don't you buy used titans they are good at compute at cheap as fuck.

no sli. I aiit buying that shit

>>55459560
>bruh
kys

/g/pu
poo in loo

>>55459425

THESE MOBOS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

>>55459526
there is no room to price a ti variant do you get it ?they charge a fe for 50 bucks more and if they give 50 more bucks to a shit tier ti variant and be close to 480 oc levels they will literally kill 1070 ...

they will probably just cut down 1070 price a bit

>>55459482
Ayyy
>>55459526
Newfag or /v/ detected

>>55459203
I don't see the 6-pin connector anywhere on that card.

This is troubling.

>>55459607
dis nigga is so mad b

F L U S H E D

>>55459420
When we have another holocaust.

>>55459722
Might want to learn how to count from 1-10 and basic multiplication before you throw around empty accusations.

>>55459767
its a cuckers dreams
passing 480 with no 6 pin

wait till you see what pcper will say..

>the card we measure it runnning only to 10 watts on torture and on 3 watts on gaming loop

>>55459583
Used titans are still like $400 most places. The 7970 is best compute performance for your dollar.

>>55459203

>Make short card
>Make it 12 feet long with the cooler

Why

>>55459832
Used titans go for about 150-200 now.
Titan x is a little different however.

>>55459834
So it doesn't burn your house ?

1060 CONFIRMED FOR 960 PERFORMANCE AT TWICE THE PRICE

>No SLI
wew

For VR the 1060 would be the better choice due to simultaneous multiprojection, but otherwise there is no obvious winner. 1060 may be a bit better than the RX 480 (but we don't know), but it's also a bit more expensive so you get what you pay for.

>>55459368
Teraflops are not the only metric to measure performance.

>>55459952
as i said.. i agree when the number is close preferably below 1
but when the number is just 2.5 tflops less there isnt any way that it can be competitive because both companies this time around has gone into compute instead of graphics so that give us a fairly decent view

>>55459899
SLI/crossfire is an incredibly niche thing that very few people do, especially on the low end. It creates more problems than it solves. SLI/crossfire is for enthusiasts who need 30% more performance than the highest end available single cards.

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HOW CAN THEY EVEN COMPETE?!?!?!?!

>>55460005
But why would nvidia deny themselves easy snake oil sales?

>>55459607
How was today's leafy video famicom?

>>55460006
its true nvidia is a nazi master when its to create a shit graph

>>55460029
Because they aren't literally Hitler like /g/ makes them out to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8TMROV_Dog

6% slower than 980 lel

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>1060 literally can not even display dx12

>>55460039
What's wrong with the graph?

>>55460112
you are either blind or blind..

>>55460171
I'm not blind. The graph shows a
.15, .25 and .45 times improvement. The last one is actually less, but I'm just gonna round it up.

>>55460210
the graph starts from the 0.80... not even on 1 lol

>>55460258
Why the fuck would you start it at 1? The red bar wouldn't exist, because it's chosen as the baseline.

>>55459367
Noone gives a fuck about your shitty continent.

>>55460274
welcome to nvidia marketing poo hq (not that amd dont use such a thing)

>>55460303
Welcome to graphs in general you mean? You're telling me that there is something wrong with a valid graph when there is nothing wrong with it.

Starting it at 0 is retarded, it's too long. Starting it at 1 is retarded, one of the bars disappears making the graph unreadable.

>>55460326
starting from 0 with 1 increase is what everyone on its mind does..and if that pcper video is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8TMROV_Dog
then you can already blame nvidia for lying..

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I'm actually start to feel bad for AMD. Like whenever they release something and feel on top of the world BANG Nvidia comes out with something better and they're back to the drawing board.

>>55460363
If you're going to start at 0 with 1 increase, you might as well just fuck off with graphs in general because that graph is about as helpful as an enema for a straight man.

Might as well just write 145% performance in category X if you're so anal about where your graphs start. It completely avoids using a graph rather than making the graph worthless.

>>55459203
inb4 those statements are for the 3gb version.
That can't SLI.

AMD fanboys sure are GREEEEEEEN with envy.

Live long the Nvidia master race.

>>55459368
You can look at your teraflops while The Witcher 3 stutters and hangs.

>>55459860
Show me one link for a Titan at $200. The cheapest on ebay I see is $340 after shipping.

>>55460443
amdkeks blown the fuck out

>>55459834
because pcbs cost money
and they probably require none to little modification for the cooler

>>55460421
Good.

>>55460443
lel sure i bet you have proof that it stutters right?

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>192-bit bus

>>55460462
That's pretty cheap

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>>55460006
>1 , 1.1 , 1.2 , 1.3 , 1.4 , 1.5

This is so pathetic, i bet the Zen will be the exact same situation, a piece of overhyped shit that runs hot and fails to deliver AT EVERY LEVEL.

boo hoo amdbabbies, 3gb is perfectly fine and 6gp is practically excessive.

your worthless little 4+4 GPU

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good job nvidia really top notch 7 weeks on retail and you just managed to pass by a small pit the titan x that didnt even sold well

kek so much for the selling like hot cakes

>>55460839
No, my 4 years old 7970 is telling me otherwise on latest games.

>>55460877
Well, thats because it's an AMD GPU, it just hasn't got the superior memory management capacities that Nvidia cards feature.

>>55460839
there is no 3GB card, amdrones are just memeing/stupid

>>55460700
It isn't as good as a 7970 for $150

>>55460895
What's funny is ,that when I bought it, I first ordered a 680 2Gb.
Because it was a paper launch, I got tired of waiting for it after a month.
Now 680 is just fucking wrecked by a 7970.

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>>55459203
>>55459834
>If I took off your cooler, would you die?

>>55460948
hehe, to you anon ?

hehehehe

>>55460868
top kek i bet paid shills wont even comment on this shit lol

>>55460386
I don't get why this is. Does AMD have less money and more retarded engineers?

>>55461053
Yes exactly that. Most of their talent has migrated to Intel, Nvida, or other companies in recent years. They are trying to compete while be severely handicapped by lack of funds for R&D also.

>>55461073
Who is this absolute fabulous looking double-jacking faggot? I often see him in gifs around here and I always wondered if he was a cam whore, how big is he?

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>>55459700
>480 OC levels

>>55461114

He is a hot stud that generally streams on GOOGLEMEFAGGOT.COM

>>55461085
lol what an absolute shit of a statement...
clearly you know nothing eh

>>55461053
GCN is literally inefficient because it targets both compute and graphics.
Their previous architecture is basically what NoVideo is doing today, getting much more graphics efficiency.
These assets may wield well for them with dx12 and Vulcan.
Also Samsungs 14 nm is low power design. It's fine for smartphones, but just doesn't scale well with power. Bad choice, I guess.

>>55460072
6% slower in a synthetic benchmark. If that is to be believed, it's still faster than the rx 480.

>>55459420
It only just began, so not soon.

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>>55461148
Not all of them make the news but there have been many high profile employees make the jump to Nvidia or elsewhere.

>>55460814
>What is relative performance

>>55461153
gcn is a highly paraller uarch that was working on a envoriment of a highly serial api...
gcn uarch in general is far superior to whatever nvidia can offer in terms of hardware since its inception..
>>55461188
yes his work was done for amd just like keller one those guys arent really the kind of person that they hold any seat on companies..you would have known that already..

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>>55461188
They should steal Raja. Not because he's any good but just because they can.

>>55461240
Seeing him shill for nVidia would be the best.

>>55461237
>his work was done
>software development

Well here's to a job...done.

>>55460386
I dunno, Toms hardware already BTFO AMD before Nvidia already announced it.

Personally if i was nvidia i'd have sent all my specs for the 1060 to AMD on the day of the 480 announcement just to ruin their souls.

I guess this will be the one I get

How does it feel, that you'll have to replace your poorfag graphics card a year from now, because it just doesn't dx12?
I fucking assert Rx480 will beat the 1060 to a pulp in a year.

>>55461336
1060 doesn't support dx12?

>>55461341
It does, but it doesn't support a lot of dx12 features on a hardware level, so it has to do it in software which isn't as efficient.

>>55461341
officially before august 2015 nvidia was supporting dx12 infact they claimed full dx12 support
then async fiasco came
after december nvidia started to say they support dx12.1
so you know exposing feature levels on drivers and actually being capable of doing them is 2 different things..

>>55461341
Well, it does, but results aren't really encouraging on present dx12 titles.
The thing is, GCN is basically cut for it.

AMD is the future. GCN is amazing. poolaris is shit but VEGA, VEGA WILL SET US FREE.

>>55459203
Depending on benchmarks I think I'm still gonna try and get an aftermarket 480 4GB if they make those.

>>55461450
Going by Polaris, Vega sure will set you free. Riding the superhot flames expelled from your PC case as you ride into space.

>>55461450
DESU i might as well wait for Kirby lake before doing a new build, that gives me a few months to see what AMD is going to bring to the table.

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>release the 1060
>it actually performs worse than the 960

Is nVidia literally retarded?

>>55461590
PCPer said it'll be between an rx480 and a gtx980 based on the firestrike scores. That puts it well above the 960.

>>55461610
I'm talking actual gameplay, not synthetic benchmarks.

>>55461644
And what gameplay are you basing this speculation off of? We literally have nothing but the synthetic benchmarks and some of the specs. The best we can do is look at how the synthetic benchmarks or the specs relate to gameplay with other Pascal cards and scale them down to the 1060's specs/synthetic scores.

>MSRP of 1070 AIB
>$389

>Real Price of 1070 AIB
>$550

>MSRP of 1060 AIB
>$250

>Real Price of 1060 AIB
>$360


Thanks for the paper launch again

>>55461665
>>$550
Stop this meme. The cheapest ones for sale so far are $400 unless you live in Europe or Hueland or something.

>>55461664
I don't know what you're even talking about. I've played the 1060 and it's shit.

>>55459367
idiot detected

>>55461733
And my dad works at Nintendo.

>>55461686
link?

>>55459203
delete this

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>>55461747

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Literally all they had going for them was the poorfag market and now Nvidia took that away too.
Vega has to be some real good shit or else they're done.

>>55461686
The problem is just that nvidia didnt release many cards, thus can't fulfill the demand, thus driving prices up.

So fuck Nvidia and their paperlaunches.

>>55459913
>for VR
>Crippled DP port

>>55461843
that shit is funny
imagine if they actually had any deal with oculus before they decide to go free for all

>>55461590
Don't worry, jewvidia will gimp the 9xx line once they release the new line :^)

I would switch to Nvidia in a second if they would support Freesync. Gsync is the exact same shit but $200 more expensive because lol Nvidia tax!

I just need to upgrade from my 760 and was willing to buy a 1070 until these scarcity shenanigans started. Looks like 1060, unless they have the exact same situation

But AMD has open source BSD support.

Top that, NVIDIA devs. Oh wait, you can't.

Microcenter
>Can we have 100 RX 480 please.
Supplier
>Sure here ya go.
Microcenter
>Oh and the same for the 1060 please.
Supplier
>Errr..hold on a moment...hmm. I can get you 5 this week. 10 next week and maybe 100 next year. Is that OK?
Microcenter
>I'll just take the RX 480's for now thanks.

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I have a GTX 660

I'd buy this but I'm poor

I might save up to buy it in September

>>55461916
one of their 10 commandments is
"thou shall deny everything open sourced"

>>55461925
If you're poor you should get the 480 4gb. But I hear that's short supply right now too.

>>55461771
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814125875

>>55461814
300$ vs 200$ is very important to poorfags.
I used to poorfag, so I can tell you.

>>55461899
I doubt that. The 1060 uses a smaller chip, which means they get more from a single wafer of silicon. So that means they can produce more in a shorter amount of time. If they're hard to obtain, it's because of demand being really high.

>>55461920
Who would buy a 480 after this week?

It's more like...
Microcenter
>Oh god we made a mistake, we must amend for selling this trash, pls take these 480s back

>>55461958
I'm poor but I'm not technologically illiterate.
I won't buy an AMD GPU no matter what.

I actually play video games that are not just the most popular mainstream crap. And devs just don't care about AMD in these games, especially betas.

>>55461958
Id put money on them saying "welp looks like the demand is for the 8gb, guess well end production of the '4gb' model"
I like the rx 480, but i have a feeling the fake 4gb only existed to have the $199 price tag associated with it.

>>55461814
REAL poorfags are excited about the rx 460 or Zen APUs. $200 is a lot for poorfags.

>>55461978
So butthurt at the truth.

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>1060 price announced
>EVGA 1070 SC price goes up by 50bongs on ebuyer

ITS NOT FAIR

>>55462001
according to paid shills poorfags dont exists
for them if you have 200 you need to get a loan to buy a 1080

>>55460006
Is that 1.2x or 1.2%?

Before rx 480 launch
>the rx 480 is going to blow Nvidia out of the water, they won't be able to compete in this price bracket in terms of performance as usual
After rx 480 launch
>OK maybe the 1060 will be on par with the rx 480, but it'll be overpriced
After gtx 1060 launch
>uh uh paper launch uh ethics uh shills

>>55462111
0.8 to 1.4 is 0.6.....

>>55461916
They are further fucking with Nouveau by sending them signed blobs. The absolute madmen.

>>55461240

Raja is trying his balls off to get picked up by Intel

Original article.

Don't support hacks.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060.html

so if the founders edition (shit version with shit cooler) costs $299, expect it to cost $349 for a custom cooler+pcb version, and add another 30% for europe, converts 1 to 1 USD/EUR, 'cause that's how you do it, and you get a 453 EUR 1060 custom (because only a fucking retard would buy a founders edition card)

>>55462236
Wait I'm confused, that article said there will be a 3gb and 6gb options, while all the announced pricing is for the 6gb model. So that means the 3gb model would be cheaper. But I don't see anything about a 3gb model on Nvidia's website or on any other articles.

>>55462286
cheapest foundershit 1070 where i live in europe costs 520.34 Euros, so that's about right

>>55462286
>expect it to cost $349 for a custom cooler+pcb version,

doubt it, there are already plenty of 1070s and 1080s that are between msrp and goyim edition pricing.

i'd expect it to be closer to $260-80 for a good AIB 1060.

>>55459292
SITE

>>55462286
If the card runs cool enough and AIB partner cards are legitimately more expensive than the FE, then the FE isn't a bad choice considering it would be the cheapest option. But I doubt that considering there's plenty of AIB partner cards that come close to MSRP for the 1080 and some for the 1070.

>>55462118
More like:

Before rx 480 launch
>AMD fanboys: The RX 480 looks like it's going to kick ass in the sub $300 category
>Nvidia Fanboys: NO!!1 IT'S GOING TO SUCK SO WAIT FOR THE 1060!!2
After rx 480 launch
>AMD fanboys: It performs as expected, kicking ass in games that aren't bogged down with gimpworks
>Nvidia fanboys: OLOLOLO!!! IT SUXX!!1 HOUSEFIRES AND BLOWN MOTHERBOARDS!!! WAIT FOR THE 1060 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TOTALLY KICK THE 480'S ASS!!2
After gtx 1060 unveiling:
>AMD fanboys: Let's just wait and see how it performs when the embargo for benchmarks is lifted on the day of release
>Nvidia fanboys: OLOLOLO!!! LOOK!!! WE TOLD YOU THE 1060 WAS GOING TO KICK THE 480'S ASS!! THESE TOTALLY TRUSTWORTHY MARKETING MATERIALS THAT DON'T EVEN SAY WHAT GAMES THEY'RE USING TOTALLY PROVES THIS!!1

YIELDS ARE SO BAD NVIDIA HAS TO CUT 1080s IN HALF AND THEY STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO SHIP VOLUME BECAUSE THE RAW DEFECT RATE FOR THESE 320mm2 CHIPS ON A NEW PROCESS IS MASSIVE.

>>55462347

>gp106 = gp104

try harder raja, this is weak FUD.

Either nvidia is starting to become incompetent or going pure evil.

Why would you charge double the price of it's last gen counterpart? It's basically in the 970 price bracket with a much lower vram bus. Even if it's technically stronger than 970, that vram speed will just bring it back down to 970 levels, maybe even less. You would have to cherrypick benchmarks on med-high settings to make it look good.

>>55462171
Isn't the prevailing rumor that Raja is trying to get Intel to buy out ATI from AMD?

>>55462034
I went for the MSI Gaming X. They had it for £430.98 and I had it on pre-order. The price just dropped to £419.98 so I've just cancelled that fucker and ordered it again for the lower price. I will do it again too if it drops again before the 12th.

>>55462378

double the price? it's gtx980 performance for $250. the gtx980 was $550 for the entire time it was a relavent card.

>>55462308
>plenty of 1070s and 1080s that are between msrp and goyim edition pricing
please don't tell me about the shit versions of the card, the ones that aren't the top tier version cooler from each manufacturer.

>>55462391
>it's gtx980 performance for $250
So Nvidia claims, but they've suspiciously embargoed all benchmarks literally to the day of release. That in itself is enough to make me think that they're promising a tad too much...

>>55462392

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GRRRW0A/ref=s9_newrz_hd_bw_b1C5u_g147_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=TCQJKGE64PMH3QJ6VRYV&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=b1e830c1-39fc-51f9-821b-f410160aa2af&pf_rd_i=284822

this is a top tier cooler and the card is priced lower than goyim edition pricing, regardless you don't even need a good cooler to deal with the heat from these cards, the 1080 is only 175w TDP.

>>55462418
>$919
Holy kek

>>55460006
>a useless graph to show magically invented performance points

if you think this means literally ANYTHING at all then you're probably too young to be here

>>55462388
Might as well just get the Zotac Amp Extreme at that point, it's a lot better

>>55462111
no, its not 1.2x it's 1.2 more FPS

>>55462345
Damage control.

>>55462345
d'awww, defending the manchild autist devices

>>55462484
I did not want another super long card plus the MSI matches my MSI motherboard color scheme :)

>>55461978
My local MC is sold out as of yesterday still

>>55462391
>$919 on a $599 MSRP card
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

> you don't even need a good cooler to deal with the heat from these cards
nigger, i don't like blower noisy fans

>>55459203
>implying msrp will be honored

>>55460902
Dammit the other GP 106 chip is a 1050.

Jewvidia vs inept AMD.

What a choice.

>>55462408
/thread

>>55459203
>Paying a premium for a card that will perform worse than the aftermarket ones
Literally Jewship. Why do people fall for it?

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>>55460006
That fucking graph...
The marvels of marketing.

>>55461961
>m
kys

Also that shit has been "out of stock" for almost a week while they continue to scalp sales on the higher end cards. He was exaggerating about $550 but $430-480 (what 1070s are actually selling for on Newegg) is a far cry from the $379 MSRP.

>muh async
That's literally the ONLY thing going on for AMD right now, isn't it? And it's still highly questionable if it will take off, even.
>b-b-but async on consoles with Vulkan
Lmao, that shit won't take off and you know it

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>>55463305
it gets better and better
they are on damage control

>>55463358
yeah not the fact that dx12 in general is built around gcn noo...
only async..
lel

Is it as good as a 980 at least

>>55463305
apple_processor_x2.jpg

>>55463380
So how come a DX12 title that doesn't use async like Rise of the Tomb Raider still runs a shitton better on nVidia than AMD?
Also
>2016
>using lel
Let me guess, you came here two weeks ago and are trying to look like one of those oldfags you heard so much about

Jesus christ, what card do i get. I can't decide, there's too much shitposting.

>>55463435
wow let me guess
how much out of 17 dx12 games so far we have 2 that are broken because of nvidia filters (gow rots)
one that nvidia calls it bench only and one that nvidia shills calls it broken because they couldnt handle the async (qb)
how much the majority runs JUST FINE on amd while a single one just fucks it up..?
obviously you can find the early benches of rotr dx12 to see how bad it was a 960 passing a fury x..

>>55463555
Goddamn nigga use some punctuation, I would love to shitpost with you but I can't figure out what the fuck you want to tell me

>>55460976
>>55460868
1080 is literally unavailable. Also it already sold more units than TX. Your point?

>>55463305
>People actually think it will have 980 performance after seeing a graph like that

>>55463585
point is 1080 was cheaper had more time to sell before 1070 came and yet nvidia said it sold millions billions bla bla..
currently the titan x has been sold for 34499 units
1080 is obviously a bit higher for a card that is cheaper faster and had way more time to seel the card is literally dead on water because of the yielding issues..

>>55459203
So, you're getting shit quality components, an extremely deficient power delivery (4 mosfets? lel) and no SLI for $250 (I mean, $350)?
That's great :^)

>>55463645
you know what is the worst part of it?
you will not even be able to change to an aftermarket cooler lol
the 6 pin connector is on the fucking cooler instead on the pcb
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
literally whoever buys it will be fucked hard

>>55463645
>not a lot of voltage regulator module
it's not a AMD GPU, you don't need all this draw...

new AMD drivers increased overall performance by 4% on the reference.

the 1060GTX is a subpar cut down card. the rx 480 nitro will be way better for the same price.

>>55463689
4 mosfets are ridiculously low for even 100W. And the card supposedly eats 120W.
That shit will overheat like a motherfucker.
Also, where are the smoothing caps? The power delivery will be all fucked up. The nukber of phases seem good though (could have done 4+1 instead of 3+1, but whatever)

t. masters in electronics

>>55463532
Wait till next week to see AiB benchmarks for both cards

>>55463770
How fucking sad will you be when the 1060 FE runs cooler, uses less power and runs faster than the 480?
Because it will. Same shit with all the doubters going "the 1070 can't beat the Titan X, just look at the specs" and they were proven wrong

>>55463814
sure it will even nvidia changed already that shitty graph lol
>>55463364
i guess they dont update their paid shills when they are on damage control

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>>55463770
Maybe because it need less power.

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not enough gpu threds

>>55463814
The chip might run cooler, I was talking about the VRMs. They'll run ridiculously hot.

>uses less power
That's confirmed, 120W for the 1060 vs 150W for the RX480.

>runs faster
probably, who knows? We'll see when it comes out and is benchmarked.

>doubter
I didn't doubt anything, I got a 1070.

>>55463837
As I said, the power delivery to the chip is deficient, even for 120W. This will make the VRMs run at maximum load and then some more, making them very hot. Maybe too hot.
4 mosfets. 120W. 30W per mosfet. That's a lot.

>>55459834
Ask AMD. They started it.

What's a good videocard to buy that isn't longer than 25-26cm? Minimum RX480 performance.

I have just about enough money saved to get a 1070 but the only one I can buy is a gigantic tri-fan 28cm long monster.

1060 will take a month to be available here, so it's a no go.

>>55464006
future wise aka dx12 aib 480
now wise aka pre 2016 dx 11 buy whatever nvidia card

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>>55459667

>>55464034
>now wise aka pre 2016 dx 11 buy whatever nvidia card

All of those are over 10 inch long, except the 960.

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>>55459425
>>55459667

>>55464061
well you either buy a 480 since they fixed today the power issue
or you wait for 470/460 if you dont care to play on ultra super duper uber alles settings

>>55460326
it's because at first glance it looks to be over double. i have no trouble reading a fucking graph, but that's just marketing horseshit and you know it. stop pretending you don't know what's wrong, fucko

there's nothing wrong with starting from 0, or even showing real fucking benchmarks. no, let's just go with some arbitrary "performance" we pulled out of our ass

>>55459203
>no sli
>299 true msrp
>nvidia was full of shit on the 1080's performance

>>55464088
Well I would care about that actually. If I wouldn't, my 6950 could still hack it.

Any other option that isn't just WAIT WAIT WAIT?

>All of this FUD and buyers remorse

>>55463766
B-but anon muh e fishin sea

>>55464123
I don't know man. There are tiny 970s, there is the Nano, and even the 1070 has a small version.

Three
Point
Five

>>55460386
nvidia shill spotted. same goes for those other two fags that replied to you

>>55464123
well i told you depends on what you like...

if you want to play the upcoming titles on dx12 amd is the way to go
if you dont well you can buy a 970 mini atx version or whatever that thing was called

I guess vram is a meme since the 480 can't outperform a 3.5GB card with 8GB ram. It's pretty sad tbqh since it's a 2 year old card keke

Now I know why AMD's logo is red. Because they need to catch up

>>55464106
Nvidia doesn't usually hype up their performance, the fanboys do

>>55464198
yeah it cant outperfom a 3.5 gb card lel
>>55464211
pretty sure they do
see>>55463364

I AM MOST DEFINITELY NOT BUYING THESE BECAUSE I'LL GET TWO SAPPHIRE RX480 NITRO

>>55464148
>>55464170
970 is a joke.
1070 itx by Gigabyte isn't available yet.
Fury Nano is too expensive for its performance.

Seriously the RX480 would've been perfect if it came with a 8-pin connector by default... I'm not even bothered by the shit cooler since I can just change that.

fucking wait game...

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>>55464261
>crossfire

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Will 1060 be alright with my FX6300 or will it get bottlenecked?

>>55464277
the card is working good as of today (ref) but yeah its better to wait for an aib slightly overclocked

sad but its what comes with new cards

>>55464277
Why is the 970 a joke? Aside from 512MB missing Vram it's still a strong card. You baby's get meme'd too easily. Certainly better when it comes to performance and power efficiency in its class until the 1060 comes out. And let's not foget that the card is 2 years old

>>55464301
>actual crossfire
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/13/#diagramm-call-of-duty-black-ops-iii-2560-1440_2

>>55463766
It's literally a new chip, not a cut down version of a higher end chip.

>>55464301
I'M NOT A GAYMURR SO I DON'T DO CROSSFIRE
I'LL JUST USE ONE AND KEEP THE OTHER ONE IN STORAGE

>>55462384
No. The rumor is he's trying to separate RADEON from AMD. Thus with two company, he will have easier time being offered to be bought/merged.

Intel, Samsung, Microsoft, who knows.

>>55464336
so what you are saying is nvidia not only having yielding issues
not only they cant stock
instead they gonna open up a new fab line for it?
lol
its a cut down version of a cut down version no one is so large to have 2-3 lines while struggling to keep one..

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>>55463532
My man save up and get 1070 for maximum shills

>>55464347
Why did AMD buy ATI anyway? Their decision never made sense to me.

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>>55464321
Thanks fpr confirm my point, AMD CF drivers are shit and dont always work

>>55464315
>Why is the 970 a joke? Aside from 512MB missing Vram it's still a strong card.

It is the literal representation of a company taking a shit on its consumers. That's what I see when I look at the 970.

>>55464378
cherry picking gameworks games as a point isnt really a good way to start shilling
but i guess nvidia doesnt give anymore "being a paid shill for dummies"book

>>55464374
yeah i never understood that either

>>55464361
AMD is literally doing the exact same thing you tard. That's what Polaris and Vega are, different chips.

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>>55464407
You want more? CF is a meme

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>>55464407
CF is literally all over the place.

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>>55464435
sure it is

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>>55464407
HITMAN

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>>55464378

>just cause 3

LOL since when do bad asian video games matter?

why don't you release dark souls 3 benchmarks if you really care about shitty asian video games

for some reason, AMD plays darksouls3 much better than nvidia

darksouls3 coincidentially is not "optimized"(tm) for nvidia

literally LMAOing at your life

>>55464450
Which of those were built with DX12 in mind, not DX11 ported to DX12 or were originally DX11 games?

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>>55464470
Even hitman?>>55464463

>>55464304
please respond

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>>55464463
WITCHER

>>55464485
>FX6300
You have bigger problems than a graphics card upgrade. I hope you're waiting for Zen.

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>>55464463
FAR CRY PRIMAL
guess winning on your court isnt really good eh

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>>55464499
How come?

>>55464484


>goto techpowerup.com
>nvidia banners all over website

LORD KEK

>>55464407
>buy two cards
>only the half of your games work

CrossFire is a fucking wast of money and I don't talk about the micro stuttering

>>55459368
The 480 on stock reaches 5.8

Apparently at 1400 it reaches 6.3

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>>55464530
>AMD driver are shit
>blame TPU

>>55461153
VLIW is a pipe dream. Not even the best drivers team on the planet can get it 100% working.

Much better to have something that sacrifices a small amount of theoretical performance for actual performance.

>>55464382
I'm truly sorry you are hurt. Have you tried going to see therapist for chronic butthurt?

>>55464525
With Zen, you'll finally have IPC on par with Haswell ON EVERY SINGLE CORE as well as hyperthreading, no more flakey fake cores shit. Zen+, maybe you'll touch Skylake.

>>55464531
>buy to cards
>ms released profiling tools today for this kind of job
>literally making devs job easier
>paid shill runs out of excuses as always
>>55464540
sorry paid shill being 9% slower as a cf of a 1080 while costing 300 bucks less is something way beter..
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/13/#diagramm-performancerating-crossfire

>>55464557
The only people hurt by it are the people who bought a 970.

>>55464378
>>55464435
>>55464463
>>55464484

While I agree that AMD drivers are generally shit in this case they are not at fault. CF/SLI don't work in many (soon most) new games because in this gen temporal effects are really popular and CF/SLI use alternate frame rendering.

In AFR second GPU starts to render new frame before the first one is finished. This is inherently incompatible with temporal effects because temporal effects need data from the previous rendered frame to render the next one. So multi-GPU setups can't start rendering the next frame before the first is finished if a game has temporal effects. This means that a multi-GPU setup using AFR just has each GPU idle every other frame.

CF/SLI are practically dead these days because of this. It might be fixed if games start to implement some sort of split or tiled frame rendering when multiple GPUs are present but that's pretty unlikely because CF/SLI users are so small portion of the playerbase that using developer resources on them is pretty unlikely.

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Xfire is shit. What Raja seems to want to start up is proper multi GPU like with how everyone runs two to four cores on their CPU nowadays. When APIs like DX12 get configured correctly like in the AotS meme, you can get marvelous results. For example, you can pair any GPU with another since it's all a giant pool of resources. What's really neat is that Moore's law still scales well with smaller chips like Polaris. It was a shitty way to showcase it during the RX480 reveal, but everyone would like GTX 1080 performance for $400. It would be a great future for everyone since an enthusiast card would just be multiple smaller chips on one card. Still, It's not happening anytime soon, I'd give it at least 4 years.

>>55464568
>ms released profiling tools today for this kind of job
Link to article, this is good news for DX12 which was supposed to do this to begin with.

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>>55459667
>>55459425

>>55464588
>I'd give it at least 4 years.
Try 5-6 years, DX12 is still in its infancy.

>>55464600
its all over the interwebz

>>55464610
17 games not even on its first year of release...
>dx12 is still in its infancy...
>not realising that the api exists since 2013 on xbox and ps4

>an actual competition
What a great time to be alive. Let's see how it'll compare with aftermarket cooled 480

>>55464582
Yeah, both are shit but AMD hype the CF so much...

>>55464663
lets see how it will go with the refrence first lol

>>55464582
>It might be fixed if games start to implement some sort of split or tiled frame rendering when multiple GPUs are present

Honestly, couldn't they just do that on a driver level for every game?

>>55464631
>not realising that the api exists since 2013 on xbox and ps4

Anything else you'd like to pull out of your ass? Xbox one had parts of what entered into DX12, PS4 doesn't use DX at all.

>>55464727
where do you think the ace engine design came from ?dx12 is been built around gcn since 2013 literally because of sony amd ms and dice..

>>55459436
>>55459526
You'll see why it has that PCB later, it'll be funny as all hell.

>>55464748
Is that why AMD still doesn't have a GPU out to support the full API?

Just stop posting.

>>55464712

Doesn't work very well with most engines because the communication between GPUs is super slow when compared to internal communication within a GPU.

Like how would you render a texture or shadow which happens to be split between areas dedicated to each GPU without swaping the PCI-E bus and adding latencies?

That shit requires game engine level implementation.

>>55464769
and what 480 is? hmmmmm
the only thing amd didnt had was the ability to cull sub pixel triangles now they do
they even brought hws with OoO executions......literally have 3 logic gpus inside one bigger one..

>>55464812
How the fuck can you claim an API is built around hardware that does not fully support all functions of it? You're fucking retarded.

>>55464631
Do you know how many of those games are ported to DX12 and not made purely with DX12 from the ground up? Because a lot of games that appear to be using DX12 are just ported from DX11, making for really shoddy implementation. DX12 is still a baby.

>>55464830
are you that dense? 480 is the first and only so far gpu that actually fully supports dx12.........

please stop being such an imbecile for once...

>>55464851
how many ?please do a sum
because the majority that came from consoles and the majority of those that will come will be on dx12

also besides the rotr and gow(dx9) there isnt a single other game that was ported from dx11...

>>55464852
>are you that dense? 480 is the first and only so far gpu that actually fully supports dx12.........
Radeon RX480 - Direct3D 12.0 feature level 12_0

It's yet another spin around town for the aging GCN cores, I'm afraid.

>>55464887
>claiming the card doesnt fully support dx12
>posts that the card is fully dx12 compliant
>calls it a spin
god damn

I hear the new Nvidia cards have problems with the HTC Vive. Think the 1060 will have the same issues?

>>55464900
>feature level 12_0

At least do a quick read up on DirectX feature levels before you make an even bigger ass of yourself.

It means no conservative rasterization, no rasterized ordered views. You know, the new actual features of Direct3D 12.

>>55464917
Yep. The chances of the 1060 having multiple HDMI ports are slim to none, and they purposely fuck up the Displayports for some reason

>>55464918
so you claim that
>amd cant cull triangles (rasterizer)
>cant detect collision on triangles( rovs)
literally the 2 things they anncounced and we even saw them in action already on gameworks infested games

god damn seriously pay attention for once wiki isnt the god go read up about the gcn 4.0 geometry processor and specially on the primitive discard acc the card is fully dx12 capable

>>55461153
The RX480 isn't even fabbed by Samsung retarded shill, also they have a high performance node along a low power node

>>55464374
Fusion and later HSA
Probably the best they did since Bulldozer ended up in failure

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>>55464951

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>>55464951
Would you like some more?

>>55459436

Dumbass, the PCB and tracings make it clear that 1060 is a "192-bit chip".

Protip: It has six GDDR chips, each chip rides on a 32-bit bus. 32bits x6 = 192bit memory bus.

The empty chip slots on top have no tracing in them.

>>55464450
>all the games that matter its either far better or a small amount under for literally 300 dollars less.

Surely this must mean Nvidiots absolutely blown the fuck out

>>55464374
APUs? They have the consoles and are surviving their horrible decisions with Bulldozer because of ATI.

>>55459767

6-pin connector is on the new reference HSF for 1060.

The "floppy molex" on the upper left-corner is where power goes to the PCB which means you cannot use third-party coolers on reference 1060 cards without resorting to a wire mod. (Good luck figuring out the pin-out on that floppy molex though)

>>55463849
So true it hurts. Both camps are shit.

>>55465083
again when i keep saying READ i mean READ
https://www.google.gr/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=conservative%20rasterization

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/amd-speculation-rumors-and-discussion.56719/page-63

there is a very good reason as to why amd havent named "conservative rasterization" on polaris ...

>>55465231
IT. DOES. NOT. SUPPORT. FULL. DX12. SPEC. IT. SUPPORTS. 12_0.

Now fuck off and choke on a gyro.

>>55464864
The PS4 does not use DirectX at all, only the Xbox One does and the Xbox One is getting destroyed in terms of sales by the PS4. If Sony implements Vulkan support on the PS4, Vulkan would shoot up in marketshare because games that are developed for consoles first, mainly develop for the PS4 first and Xbox One second.

>>55462506
>>55462111
You're both wrong.

It's 1.7%.

>>55465106
>forgetting that the 1070 offers similar price to performance and you don't have to deal with the issues of crossfire
I hate to break it to you, but a lot of people play more games than just the biggest AAA titles where the devs have the money to implement all these expensive features.

>>55465151
>The "floppy molex" on the upper left-corner is where power goes to the PCB

ok, that's even worse. There's a reason the 6-pin connector uses 6 pins, it has to use that type of connection so it is capable of transferring so much current safely.

If that little 2-pin mini connector is what they are using as an extension of the 6-pin connector, then the card is going to crash and burn HARD. That little flippy thing will melt down after a few days.

>>55465292
And they'll keep playing LoL and the like on integrated or 5 years old hardware until it dies.

>>55465250
jesus christ can you go jump of a cliff or something?
do you even know wtf is full dx12 ? there is dx12 and 12.1
currently not a single one SUPPORTS DX12.1
and the only single card can can support DX12 IS 480
now take your misleading shill to a proper place like
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/
perhaps they can value your knowledge

>>55465260
i never said it did i said that the lead to be desinged to what we know the ace engines are literally sony's idea
the mantle came after a long talk between dice ms amd and sony hence why dx12 and vulkan exists now..
also yeah i highly doubt sony will drop theirs that has already a massive amount of profiling tools to rewrite everything to vulkan..

>>55465332
>and the only single card can can support DX12 IS 480

Ok, you are retarded. Well done on managing to post on the internet though.

>>55465292
Doesnt matter if history is anything to go by all those teraflops will be unlocked by drivers on the amd card in a year or two and nvidiots will be btfo

>>55465315

The two-pin connector is fan on the HSF. The four-pin connector on the PCB is for 12V rails on the "6-pin connector" that is located on the reference HSF.

>>55465315
that 4-pin is a fan header, you fucking mongoloid

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>mfw I own a 980 Ti and don't need to worry about all this shit
>mfw it's fun to watch you all go around and around squabbling like little faggots
>mfw all the god damn wait fags are still constantly getting BTFO when they could've just bought maxwell in it's prime and had great gaming experiences since 15~ months ago

Both AMD and nvidia fags are fucking pathetic.

>>55465921
>he doesn't have a 1080

What are you poor?

>>55465535

No it is not. The white 2pin connector is the for the fan. The HSF has on 6-pin PCIe power connector on it (located on the far end of the card). How do you suppose that is able to deliver that power to the PCB? That's what the
black 4-pin "floppy molex" is there for.

I suspect that was intetionally done to prevent users from using third-party HSF solutions on reference cards.

>>55466572

>>55466572

>>55465921
Post your monitor. I bought the 970 new for $270 with a game since no card was pushing at least 120Hz on 1440p. 980Ti can't do that, so I waited. 1080 can't do that so I will wait. Fat chips will definitely do it however. Both fat Pascal and Vega with HBM2 will do it. Therefore, I will upgrade then.

>>55463555
8 months ago it was " what good is DX12 performance only 3 games use it" and now we're up to 17? In 8 more months that number could be 40, the year after it could be almost every mainstream game released.
The DX12 time is now and it's time to stop memeing "wut gaymes"

>tfw I have like 5 days left to return my 970 and get a 1060/1070
I'm going to put it in the microwave FUCK

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>3GB 3.5GB 4GB 6GB
What is it!!?

>>55461817

>too many people are buying new nvidia cards
>fuck nvidia for making money

nvidia has no control over the price gouging going on, the only control they have is that resellers can't go below the MSRP because they have supply agreements/contracts that would allow nvidia to stop doing business with them if they did.

yields are definitely not as bad as the amd fanbois think, gp104 is a 300mm2 die on a process that has already had a few years to mature.

>>55465073

>overclocking memory on a 480

enjoy your dead motherboard, card will go back to out of spec power draw since the memory is entirely powered by the pcie bus and is already maxed out at stock clocks.

>>55464976

it is you idiot, globalfoundries licensed samsung's 14lpp process.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9959/samsung-announces-14lpp-mass-production

> ... As GlobalFoundries licenses Samsung's process node as we should also see CPU and GPU products from AMD produced on the new manufacturing node. ...

>>55467400
>implying that wasn't fixed literally today

>>55467431

yes, at stock clocks, but the memory will draw more power over the pcie bus once it's OCed.

amd went full retard with the reference design and powered the GPU core over the power connector and powered the memory from the pcie bus instead of combining both.

>>55467400
Not my picture, was only posted to show directx feature level for Mr. 480 IS THE FIRST AND ONLY FULLY DX12 COMPLIANT CARD EVER.

>>55459353
everyones favorite trip shill!

>>55463878
how much power did a 4gb 480 use?
all benches for power i see show 8gb, and i know the 4gb used less

>>55467504
About 20w less.

>>55459832
Nanos are best ratio between price, time and cost of power

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Say what you want about AMD, but when has Nvidia given away an additional 4GB for free? I know they took .5 away. lol

>tfw got my GPU today
> Flash the bios and unlocked an extra 4GB.
>$199 with free shipping

>>55459367
Very true

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>>55467537
did you forget how to hold your phone or something you lazy piece of shit

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>tfw live in cold climate
>tfw Fury X is free heat

>>55467537
>for free
More like they had to gimp down a few 8gb cards so no one would catch on to the fact there will never be a $249 4gb version.

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>>55467678
>tfw live in Arizona
>tfw the ambient temperature outside is hotter than Fermi