/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for T601F master-race

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What's in the mail, /tpg/?

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>>55446799
Mini Dock Plus (4338) for my X230 arriving Friday.

Desktop I'm posting on now will be demoted to permanent headless server detail and Everything Cool That I Do™ will be on my X230.

>>55446896
Why not an ultrabase?

>>55446730
Installed linux on my t420 and use the middle click to scroll,and paste.However sometimes when i copy a link and are scrolling a website it copy pastes the link into the firefox tab

I plan on getting a Thinkpad soon, but I'm still so conflicted between getting a x220 (possibly x220t) or a T420. The spcs between the two look more or less the same, and I like the idea of having a smaller laptop, but I also like bigger screens.

Does anyone have a x220 and T420 and have a preference between the two?

>>55446924
Didn't need the storage (already have 256GB mSATA SSD + 1TB spinning rust) or a DVD-ROM.

(soon to be headless) server is running Plex and got the big drives for all my media, software, backups, etc. I'll keep some pared-down essentials on the 1TB drive for mobile needs sans wifi, not that I find myself in that situation very often.

>>55447029
I should add, how does the keyboard feel on the tablet version of the x220? I like the idea of being able to completely rotate my screen, but I'm worried the keyboard is going to feel like a piece of shit.

>>55447029
X220 for the better screen. Resolution sucks, but the T420 panel is simply the worst, regardless of resolution.

>>55447042
Good for you then. I wish I found a cheap USB dock, the ultra or pro version.

>>55447029
I have a t420 and an x230 so I'm going to treat it like the x230 just performs like the t420 with an igpu
the t420 has options for discrete nvidia graphics whilst the x220 doesn't so if you want a little more graphical horsepower, go with that
the x230's battery life is phenomenal and I've heard great things about the x220 battery too, the t420's isn't so great and slice batteries are common for x series laptops for that ultra extended life, I have a slice for my t420 but they aren't very common
also x220 you can put an IPS screen in for better colours etc like I have, t420 can't
tl;dr, x220 if you want a comfy little machine with great battery life at the sacrifice of a little horsepower and storage expansion options, t420 if you'll be using it on a desk more and using it for slightly more intensive tasks and go for the nvidia one

>>55447138
woah fuck me I just wrote loads

>>55447138
The plan is to use it for nothing but word processing, web browsing, non-10 bit video 1080p or under, and maybe I might try and play a really lightweight game.

I don't really play any games older the 2007, and even then none of them were triple A games. If it could do emulation from up to the PS1/64 that would be cool.

>17% decrease in maximum battery capacity after 92 cycles

is this bad

>>55446345
I dont really mind that I like it because its fast

>>55446296
Tried that but it didn't work. Newest drivers i could get to work with CentOS was from 2011.

>>55447226
Third party battery? They tend to degrade faster. Most use repackaged used or B-grade cells except for some reputable Korean manufacturers.

Set battery thresholds. I think 80/20 is what most people suggest.

Constantly running them down to 0% (severe discharging) = bad

Heat generated when batteries constantly charged to 100% = bad

I just put an SSD in my t420, everything runs great. I took the original HDD and put in an ultrabay adapter, the light powers on for 1-2 sec at boot then goes off and I can't even see the drive in the bios
anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

There is a 10% discount on new thinkpads for students on lenovo's website but it isn't usable along with current discount code ;(

Does someone have general tips about cleaning keyboards? I've got a t520.
I've not spitted anything on mine, but it feels a bit greasy and also has some dust under the keys.

>>55447045
Should be the exact same keyboard.

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So did I get a good deal? I paid 150 including shipping

Googling the type model in the bios brought me to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246104

It doesn't have a 500GB hdd though its got a 320GB

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>>55448623
It looks like its in great shape

>>55448623
http://tp.krelay.de/index.php?type=4178-6vu
900p/nvidia. You did good. Throw in another 12gb of ram and a ssd for supreme meme.

>>55448673
Nice
And to think I wouldn't have found this if the backlight in my T60 went out

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A year ago I fell for the Thinkpad meme and got a brand new T440p

I'm not going to talk about the fucking terrible trackpad that was a problem from day one but about the terrible as fuck durability I experienced so far.

Like I always keep this piece of junk in a laptop sleeve inside a laptop bag but the question mark key is already missing, one of the USB ports is fucked already and smartctl is telling me that the drive is failing. Also I installed a brand new HDD into the UltraBay and it literally self destructed itself

It's literally falling apart faster than the shitty Asus K52N laptop that I had before that was taped together with a duct tape and was finished after it literally caught on fire

>>55448293
Hard drive wasn't seated properly pls ignore

>>55448924
Learn to take care of your laptops

>>55448508

take the keyboard out(there are screws near where the ram is) and then just rinse it.

>>55448924
dude you are a retard, unless you are dropping or punching the laptop with a knife repeatedly it will outlast at least five of your mom's black boyfriends.

What are you doing with the damn thing?

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>>55448713
>going from a T60 to a T420
I'm so sorry for your loss, anon.

>>55449115
Literally just using it at work???
The keycap just randomly fell out once during transfer, the whole rubber thing and scissor key mechanism are there.

Same goes for the USB. I use an USB mouse and once when I was unplugging the mouse the plastic thing from the USB port just stayed inside of the usb dongle

Are there any decent Quad Core T520 remaining? I need one for my job

>>55449164
Im going to miss 1440x1050 but that C2D and 2GB of ram was really starting to show its age

>still using cum-stained chink laptops to fit in on /g/
When are you losers going to grow up and get a real laptop like the XPS 13?

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I love the old advertisements.

>>55449315
>XPS 13
It's 13

>>55449315
once they cost $175. and maybe not even then. Im probably not going to buy dell new ever just because of all the paid shilling they do on here.

>>55449402
Yet you still buy chinkpads despite all their paid shilling on here. Just fuck off and get a Dell.

>>55449351
XPS 15 then.

>>55446730
Fucking damaged my X201, my bag got flung with it in it and now the screen is dim, anyone know what would be wrong with it? I don't think the backlight is completely screwed because its still bright enough to see, just way lower maximum brightness.

>>55449456
>5 year old chinkpad off craigslist
>paid shilling

Why would lenovo shill things that wont earn them any money?

>>55449476
>>55449456
also, i bought my t420 before i even found /g/.

>>55449456
>XPS 15 then.
mediocre battery life
mediocre cooling
throttles the CPU
expensive spare parts if you can even get them
ugly dell logo in your face every time you boot it

>>55449506
That's a macbook your talking about, XPS 15 has none of those problems.

Whats the best pentium 1 era thinkpad? I want something easy to find and cheap

>>55449469
On battery or AC or both? I take it the up and down brightness functions still work, but it's just not as bright at max?

OK, so I want to get myself an X220, but I also need a T520 or a W520 with a Quad Core (I prefer the T for obvious reasons)

What should I max my spending on? Need help, the T420 isn't cutting it for work stuff. Hell of a machine otherwise

>>55449184
don't know man, my x220 survived a really shit fall and now the back vent is missing a small piece. Everything works fine and I'm just looking around to get a bottom case part because of autism but the laptop works fine.

>>55446799
Arctic silver 5 for my desktop's new motherboard.

>>55446730
Where can I pick up a thinkpad from that's not line? Interested in getting one.

Hey /tpg/, just ordered my first thinkpad ever, it is a t430 for 200 with 8gb, i5, and a 120gb ssd.

It is in good condition, however it has the original 1366x768 panel.
Is it worth it to go through all the trouble to replace the lcd cable and the panel with 1600x900?

I also regret now not having bought a T420 for cheaper.

>>55447311
Which manufacturers

>>55450429
I'd pick up a thinkpad right now if they had a 1080p panel. My Macbook Air is at 1440x900 which is fine but I really want dat had.

>>55450447
Anker and Denaq I know of. There may be others.

Might as well post the battery copypasta I put together with some input from others in /tpg/:

Battery tiers:
>FREE BATTERY IF ELIGIBLE - https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122

>New geunine lenovo - most expensive but more durable and dependable compared to the chinese counterparts. If money is no object, buy new.

>Used/refurbished genuine Lenovo - on a budget, these have all the benefits of new batteries, just with some wear. Only buy used batteries from sellers that will screencap battery stats (charged vs original design capacity, cycle count) so you know what you're getting. Usually price is on-par with high quality third party batteries.

>High quality 3rd party battery - anker & denaq both use jap/korean 18650 cells and are thus known to wear well. Worth considering at this price point. Some models (XX30 and up) will not charge 3rd party batteries, so avoid outright.

>New chinese batteries - reviews are mixed but most use sub-par cells and electronics. They may die unexpectedly or wear much faster than genuine lenovo batteries. Others seem to work fine. There are a million brands and batches out there, so there's no way to tell which is better than another, if they are.

>used chinese or unknown capacity used lenovo - reconsider your life choices that led you to this destitute position

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>model M coming tomorrow

Now I have to get a monitor to be comfy

>>55450448
>if they had

You know you can install it yourself, right?
And not just HD+, you can install Full HD on a t430, I don't think you can on the t420 though.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/T420_and_T430_HD%2B_Screen_Upgrade

>>55450546
I saw you on the /bst/ thread, am jelly

I just put together my first PC, only to realize that I've come to enjoy the ease of using a laptop more than a desktop, since I can just pick it up and walk away. Now I have to wait for my laptop to get here

>>55446896
will that dock work on a t420/30
obviously the usb 3 port will only be usb 2 speeds or not work at all on the t420, but I eventually want to replace the t420 with something better.

>>55450529
What if I bought my T420 used would I still be eligible for the free battery recall?

>>55450604
Thanks mate.

>>55450695
Buying new or used is irrelevant. Just run the battery serial thru the link and see if it works. There have been plenty of success stories of people trolling eBay listings with good pics and run those serials to nab a free battery.

>>55450659
Looks like it. There are a few different models, some with USB3.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_Dock_Series_3#ThinkPad_Mini_Dock_Series_3

The higher wattage models are for the W series, but are downward compatible with other models.

>>55450695
If the battery is genuine and was called back, you can claim one.
Most people fucked with the system and would change the numbers:
>11s42t4882z1zhvw24xxxx
until they got an unclaimed one, and claim it.

>>55450836
>>55450851

>Buying new or used is irrelevant. Just run the battery serial thru the link and see if it works.

Ill have to check when it gets here

>>55450546
There is only one mechanical keyboard god, and the Model M is its prophet. Good fucking choice, m8. You bought a keyboard that will possibly outlive you.

Don't forget if you are trying to hook it up to USB you'll need an active PS2 to USB converter. The ones that just change the "gender" of the plug are no good (aka passive converters). They're only $10-15 but essential.

Why does nobody recommend the W520?

>>55450941
Most people don't want to lug around a fuckhuge W series (inb4 DYEL).

They're fantastic though, spec-wise if you don't cuck yourself by getting the absolute lowest screen option at memeresolution.

>>55451007
>inb4 DYEL
DYEL only applies when people bitch about the smaller 14 inch laptops, W and P series can be not only heavy, but huge and impractical.

>>55450941
They cost double the OP's recced laptops, and they're gargantuan

>>55451053
That's my whole thing - it just wouldn't fit in my backpack. The weight itself isn't really important.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-14-0-WGXA-LCD-Screen-For-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-ThinkPad-Edge-S430-04W3331-/201594910850?hash=item2eeffe3882:g:nkMAAOSwY0lXTeyZ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-Genuine-14-0-HD-LCD-Screen-04W3921-0C00307-/201598834414?hash=item2ef03a16ee:g:zdUAAOSw9eVXVczh

What is the difference between WXGA+ and HD+? The listings show them both as the same resolutions and as Matte?

PLEASE RESPOND

>>55451089
wxga+ is 1440x900 (though its probably a 1366 panel because fuck the standards)
and hd+ is 1600x900

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

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>>55451089
I googled it

>>55451275
WXUGA is my resfu.

>>55449819
Yes, it happens on both battery and AC.

>>55451194
thanks man

>>55451275
>>55451297
>tfw asked before googling
:^)

>>55451401
Yeah. I don't know why I help you shit-heads.

>>55451704
:DD

Well, I try to give back
>>55450604

anyways, its all about spreading the love of these memepads. I never knew how awesome they were until I realized that they are totally modular.

What does /tpg/ think of the xps 13?

>>55450941
Ignore everybody else, they're not gargantuan at all, they're still 15 inch laptops

But they are much harder to come by and more expensive as a result

What IS gargantuan is its charger, it's longer and twice as wide as a regular one

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>>55450941
>>55451053
>>55451076
Isn't it the same dimensions as a T520?

You guys are being dramatic, it's barely any bigger

It's far less of a difference than T420 to X220 for one

Plus you get the astronomically better screen angles

>tfw you google how to replace the backlight in a thinkpad and the first video that pops up is made by pamperchu

So are memepads autismpads?

>>55452131
those keyboards are terrible

>>55452308
I'm using it as a size demonstration, since it's the same as the _20 series

Also, you can swap in _20 keyboards now

>>55450546
And a Tizio lamp

>>55452298
What model? There's some anon around here that has done a TON of research on various boards and lights and builds LED retrofit kits.

>>55449334
If we asked IBM/Lelnovo for some medium/high-res scans of some old ThinkPad ads, will they deliver?

>>55452609
T60

can you put a true quad core in a T420?

>>55452737
Yes, but it will run toasty, stick to high end dual i7s.

>>55452724
Only older X-series currently. For reference:

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-kit.shtml

IIRC he said he was going to make T-series kits soon, not that it helps you now.

>SkeletonWaiting.jpg

I've done a CCFL replacement in a T60 before. It's not hard to do, but it's hard to do perfectly...alignment issues will give you an uneven lighting (minor) at the bottom. I scrapped the CCFL out of another busted screen.

>>55451401
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>55452860
I know 4chan is a peanut gallery, but c'mon man.

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Rate my nipple /tpg/
Does it look like it needs to be replaced?

>>55453003
still good

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>>55453003
Nice score. Red Thinkpads are hot shit but that looks like a bad stamp. You're going to roll balls.

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What's your favourite Trackpoint cap?
I like Nr. 1 the most.

>>55453052
3 (classic dome, cat's tongue) is master race

>>55453030
>bad stamp
>roll balls
Wat
>>55453072
Does it get good grip though. It feels like your fingers would slip

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>>55453093
It's grippy as heck

>>55453030
heh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6---yUoQBQc

>>55453052
I like #1 the best overall
It has the edge to give you tons of grip like #3, but it's still nice to use all day like #2.

>>55450546
>wearing shoes indoors

>>55453163
Relax, Takashi.

>>55453030
Perfect.

>>55448924
>he managed to catch a laptop on fire
>he managed to fuck up a thinkpad

When lenovo calls their thinkpad brand durable, they usually assume people with basic motor skills and cognitive abilities will be using their product.

>>55453052
#1
I like the way it hugs my finger, i dont have to use really any pressure like i do with #2 and i dont like the texture of #3 though it is quite grippy (autism related sensory issues are "fun".)

>>55453052
I've only ever used 2.
One day I'll join the master clitorace.

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>>55453052
The only problem I have with #1

>>55449456
>XPS 15

Impyling I want to put up with
>Autistic carbon fibre design that shows note fingerprints than Sherlock at a crime scene.
>Shit keyboard, literally on par with a 300 dollar chromebook I used for two years. Mushy and yet no cushioning at the end of the press. Simply garbage for a product over one grand.
>Abysmal screen quality control, 60+ ms grey to grey time, if I wanted ghosting this bad I'd watch that new shitty ghostbuster movie
>Webcam that shows your nostrils to anyone on the other end. Absolutely retarded placement all due to muh thin bezel gimmick. I know, I know, a webcam is a minor thing, but I have these things called friends and a job, so sometimes I need to use a webcam that doesn't make me look like the crimson chin 24/7.

So since they basically fucked up literally everything I see when I open the damn thing short of the trackpad, I have no idea why you'd even ironically shill such a shitty silver macbook wannabe.

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>>55453285
Damn

>>55450546
where did you get that mousepad?

>>55453285
Fuck off lenoshit shill.

>>55453475
>implying I mentioned lenovo once

How's that damage control going, Dell?

>>55453490
The only fag damage controlling here are the thinkshills.

>>55453506
>thinkpad general
>why does everyone like lenovo here?!

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>>55453518
I don't like lenovo

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>>55453518
We weep for Lenovo

Is the build quality on modern day Lenovo's the same as older mid 2000s think pads? I usually buy Dell laptops, business account discount, but my Father is needing a laptop and likes Lenovo. His work uses their laptops so he trusts that brand. I don't know much about modern day Lenovo however, I do know IBMs think pads have an amazing reputation.

>>55453592
Nowhere near.
>inb4 louis shillman

>>55453592
Get him a T460s if he wants something new.

>>55453585
Disgusting

>>55453592
Once Lenovo bought over the rights to thinkpads in 2005, they began to slowly strip away any sense of dignity that IBM had left behind. Then they proceeded to violently penetrate them in the ass with their communist dicks. their last good model imo, was in 2011, the x220. See >>55453585. Fucking appalling.
Some of the new ones aren't entirely shit but when comparing, you're no longer talking about thinkpads and what they stood for (see OP) but rather consumer-grade shit.

>>55453664
>x220
I'd say it's the x230, with x220 keyboard mod

>>55453677
That's true, the t430 & x230 were still good, albeit Lenovo got rid of the beautiful keyboard layout. T430s was when they pretty much fucked themselves over, tons of issues with it. I would have bought the x230 if it wasn't so expensive here.

Anyone ordered directly from lenovo store?

How long does it take between payment and actually receiving the invoice and order confirm?

Is it a typical issue for a X230 that when the lid is closed it has absolutely poor wifi, when I dock my X230 and close the lid its slow as fuck, gets crap ton of timed out when trying to ping router and I barely can access anything on internet or on my LAN.

Open lid and all works fine. Is there a way to fix this so i could use wifi when my X230 has lid closed while on a dock, other than using ethernet? Would prefer to keep the lid closed when its on a dock

>>55454322
Also this does not happen with my T420, that one works just fine with the lid closed on the dock

>>55454322
Quick question (not judging, just confused) why aren't you using ethernet whilst docked?

>>55454322
Did you try turning it upside down?

>>55454347
Because i am retarded apparently. I connect everything from my desktop to the dock when I want to use my thinkpad as a desktop, and seems like my brain didnt come up with connecting also the ethernet cable on top of my monitor, keyboard and mouse etc.

No idea why I didnt also just connect the ethernet cable too then, i am a idiot. Will do now

> my x200 was shipped
> wait a week for it to arrive to the mail forwarder and another two weeks for final delivery
I'm already mad

>>55454385
Fair enough, I was expecting that you were too far away from an ethernet connection or you would have already tried it

>>55454333

Have T460p it's the only ThinkPad I've owned that doesn't have this problem with Linux OSs.

Just ordered a T420s for mummy since her old CQ62 died.

She's going to like it bros, right?

>>55453618
>>55453641
>>55453664
Damn, I did a little research and its a fucking travesty what Lenovo has done to the think pads. That being said though, I'm going to show my Father the t460 or a t510.

>>55454544
oh yes ;)

>>55454446
Nah its just me being retarded, taking all my peripherals from a desktop but didnt think about ethernet. Might as well get the retard award of 2016 but well thanks for reminding me to use ethernet, works now

>>55454480
I use windows and this issue probably had something to do with the antennas in different position when the lid is closed or something

>>55454837
Might be useful to get a second ethernet cable, less shit to swap over

>>55454913
>Meme YouTube tech reviewer monitor
No thank you, nasty whore.

>>55453677
>the x230, with x220 keyboard mod
tell me more

Does anyone have a calibrated icc color profile for X60?

>>55455071
It depends on your screen and not your laptop model ya dingus

Any idea where to buy if I'm in Japan?

Anyone using the WAN card in their thinkpad?

>>55455192
Akihabara

>>55455210
WWAN yes

>>55455221
Thoughts on it?

>>55455211
I mean like a website

>>55455233
It's okay

T61 for 75$ take it or not?

>>55456478
The ad itself
ith extra long life battery and finger scan login!
Processor: Intel T7300 Core 2 Duo (2.0GHz,800MHz FSB, 4MB Cache)
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100
Display: WXGA+ 1440 x 900 (LG screen)
Hard Drive: 100GB 7200RPM (Seagate Momentus 7200.1)
Memory: 2GB (1GB x 1GB), up to 4GB max
Ports:2 USB 2.0, 1 FireWire, Monitor out, modem, Ethernet, headphone out, microphone in
Slots: 1 PC Card Slot, 1 ExpressCard slot (optional media card reader and Smart Card reader)
Optical Drive: Ultra-slim Super-Multi Drive

>>55450894
I can't just use an adapter? Why not? I'll get whatever I need, please advise

>>55446730
How do I type a pipe character on the x230?

>>55456530
Get a T400 for around that much, 65nm core 2 duo chips dont clock as high as 45nm Penryns, which can hit 3.06GHz on the T9900.

>>55456544
Whats a pipe character

>>55456606
This one: |

>>55456773
Isn't it right above the enter key like every other north American keyboard?

>>55456794
Nope.

>>55456773
Just take mine, here's a good a amount do you won't run out quickly
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

>>55456865
Thanks, but I'd really appreciate a solution to my problem. I'm trying to learn some ruby, and not being able to type that character is quite inhibiting.

>>55455150
OK, for BOE-Hydis HT121X01 panel.

>>55456909
Have you tried looking at the keyboard

>>55456909
Do you have some weird euro layout? It's right there retard

I currently have an XPS 13, why the fuck should I get a cumstained piece of shit chinkpad with built-in Chinese backdoors?

>>55456918
Literally your own screen
the one that's in your particular machine
every screen is different, just get a calibrator

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>>55457335
go be fat somewhere else

Posting from my new X230 I just picked up who else xx30 masterrace?

>>55457728
Got two of them

>>55456530
The main charm for T61 and older thinkpads is a square screen. That one's a widescreen. If you're already "compromising" on that, look for something newer.

>>55457912
Has the T61 something better than 1024x768?

>>55456539
There's some voltage fuckery that makes those cheap green or purple PS2/USB adapters not work. You need an active converter/adapter if you intend on plugging it into a USB port.

Here you go, friend.

http://clickykeyboards.com/product/ps2-to-usb-adapter-converter-for-keyboards-short-usb-cable/

>>55457977
welp, forgot to turn off my /int/ meme

>>55457977
There's a 1400x1050 panel for the 14.1" square T61. That same panel was available in the T60 and T60p also, and the screen (or whole lid) is a direct swap.

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>>55455012
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=x230+x220+keyboard+swap

second link

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>>55458168
thanks, kid.

Paid order from lenovo 2 days ago with bank transfer and it still says awaiting payment, is it normal that they are slow as fuck?

>>55446799
T530 and dock.

Joining thinkpad master race

>>55455885
What are you looking to buy? Amazon.co.jp has some decent prices for x220.

What's a good ThinkPad for Hackintosh? Is X201l or X201 or T420 good enough?

The thought didn't come from the Hackintosh thread here, I've always wanted to find a laptop for Hackintosh, ThinkPad was just not one of them. I saw some refurbed ThinkPads locally and hot damn, their prices are so tempting.

>>55459092
I Hackintoshed a T60p. It ran SnowLeopard, but badly.

The install itself was an absolute fucking nightmare. Would not do again.

>>55446799
>>55458363
Also the t530 + dock, very excited. What os are u gonna use?

>>55457257
Yes, I have tried that.

>>55457314
It's not there. And yeah, I have some "weird euro layout".

Tried upgrading the RAM in my T420.

Any memory inserted into the slot under the latch on the bottom of the laptop (DIMM1) doesn't get detected. Everything boots fine, no POST errors, but neither BIOS or the OS can see the RAM.

The memory I bought works fine in the slot under the keyboard (DIMM0) and passes memtest86, so it's not faulty.

Both sticks are same frequency, voltage, CL values, but have different chip densities and brands. The 4GB stick I bought is listed as compatible with the T420 on Kingston's website.

Tried pretty much everything. The fact that there is no POST errors make me think that the memory slot dead. I checked it for debris and cleaned it with a dry cotton swab, but it didn't help.

I'm using a modded bios to remove the mPCI whitelist. Can't be bothered installing Windows to try a different bios. (I know about the ISO method, I'll try it tomorrow when I replace the failing hard drive with a new SSD)

Anyone had similar problems? Is there anything else I could try?

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>>55459213
>>55456544

>>55459424
It's a German QWERTZ layout. You do realise you can change the layout to whatever you want like "US International" in your OS?

>>55459424
Thanks, but that does not work. Pushing the buttons in the picture yields this result: ½.

>>55459506
It is probably behind AltGr something. There's probably a readme or a manual about your layout somewhere if you can find out which country locale it is.

You could also do >>55459490

>>55459137
I did a Yosemite on a Latitude E6500 but the hardware sucks so bad that the experience itself was more of a nightmare than the installation itself.

What's the difference between X201 and X201l, by the way?

>>55459490
Switching between different keyboard layouts works, yes, but it would be nice not having to do it every time I want to type |||||||||.

>>55459622
Alright, I'll try to find some documentation online. Thanks!

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Post your discharge rates with 50% display brightness and opened browser. I'm just curious how good my 10 watts are.

>>55459637
Just FYI it's x201i not x201l.

Any i-suffixed X or T series is just a lower-specced model, usually with an i3 processor instead of an i5 or i7. Unless your needs are very modest and it's an incredible deal or you just want the shell/screen for parts, avoid.

Processors in the X series are soldered, so you can't DIY swap/upgrade it.

Europoor here. I want to buy a memepad for use as a main computer. Programming and shitposting mostly. Budget 300 merkels. Should I buy the 220 x or should I buy the t420 due to the higher resolution of the screen? Some ebay.de preferred vendor?

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Can you disable Intel vPro
in the BIOS (of a T450s or similar)?

Anyone have some opinions on high end business laptops for programmers? Important things are battery life, RAM, CPU, and storage, in that order. Also should have nice Linux support and work well in multihead setups. Price range $1000-$1500 ish.

>>55460425
Get a T460 with the 1440p screen, you wont be disappointed.

>>55460498
That looks perfect, thanks!

>>55459760
Who's Maria Romanovna?

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>>55460644
Why would you be a faggot on /g/?

>>55460498
>T460
>not T460s
The 'T460s' is special in the way it has an increased TDP of 25W instead of the normal 15W. So even if it's used with an i7 CPU the processor will never throttle under heavy loads(CPU+GPU). T460, X260, HP Elitebooks and Dell Latitudes models are 15W TDP.

>>55460690
See, I could have dropped it, but now I'm curious Mr. Madej

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>>55459760
>>55460690
She's cute Madej, you sodomised her yet?

>>55460733
Battery life was listed as priority #1, I would think a lower TDP was preferable.

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Cannot get my T440s camera working on Windows 10.

The driver says its up to date.
Lenovo Settings says nothing about privacy (some googling shows an option to turn on in screenshot but I dont see it)
I checked the Windows Settings and everything looks right.

What am I doing wrong

>>55461081

make sure its not disabled in the bios

>>55461081
You have failed to install gentoo.

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Just got my x220 in the mail for $100 I think that was a deal. However I am not a weebo. But that's the keyboard it came with.

>>55461289
I think those Jap keyboards are hard to come by. You could probably replace it with a new English x220 keyboard, sell the Jap one, and make money on the exchange.

How do you like your trackpoint? I've never used one before and I don't feel particularly comfortable with any combination of sensitivity and acceleration.

>>55461289
I'd really like one of those keyboards for my 220, been looking but can't really find one for sale..

I'm not really a weeb, but I really like the layout

>>55461359
I thought Trackpoint was a meme, too. I had a TP for 6 months and just got annoyed with it.

Disable your trackpad and use the Trackpoint exclusively for a week. You'll wonder why the fuck you waited so long and will never want to own another laptop without it.

>>55461408
I already got that feeling, I just can't find a configuration I'm comfortable with.

Do you use high sensitivity low acceleration? The opposite?

>>55461448
That's something you have to play around with, but having it a bit slower is nice.

That being said, I can't change it in linux, whenever i do it just reverts back after a restart.. I'm probably just retarded.

>>55461448
I'll say this -- I'm dual-booting Debian and Win8 and in Debian I just left it alone. Whatever the default values are, they're perfect.

It feels muddy as shit under Win8 though. I haven't even bothered tracking it down since I only boot into it for a short period of time maybe once a month.

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>>55461081
So I had to update the lenovo settings and restart my computer to get the Privacy Mode option to show up.

>>55461690
You're a handsome fella.

Just ordered a T450s with 1080p IPS screen
$520 refurbished by Lenovo

My poor little T400 can finally retire, repurposed to something that doesn't involve looking at its TN panel

>>55461811
dubs for truth

X220 tablet with i7, power cable and battery included, as well as 500 gb hdd. BUT the power cable jack is fucked, part is like 7 bucks or so and have fixed before. Guy wants 50 bucks but I haven't seen it turn on(because of power jack). It was a hospital pc, should I cop familiosa?

>>55462501
Yeah, but swab it down before cleaning it, and culture anything you get from it - could have some interesting new pets

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Finally got one of my own. Not much larger than my 2012 MBP and will fit nicely in my school's electronics lab.

Thanks for suggesting this most excellent meme

>>55462687
Sorry about the sideways

It's the i5-2520 with 4GB Ram, 320GB HDD, Intel graphics, 1600x900 screen. Probably gonna add an nvidia card, put in an i7, more ram and an SSD.

So, today I got this piece of shit x220 for $120.
Any ideas how can I undervolt the CPU?
I have already replaced the BIOS with custom one (with advanced tab enabled in BIOS) but it lacks any options related to voltages (only turbo mode limits). I also replaced thermal compound on the CPU.

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>>55462773
kek, here's speccy report

>>55461289
>>55461368
Wanna sell it?

>>55450546
>That everything
You's my nigga.

Like >>55457996 said, you'll need an active converter for that keyboard if you're using it on a USB port.
HOWEVER, if you plan on using it via PS/2 you only need two resistors jumping from 5v to data and clk lines to lower the power draw and it'll work perfectly.. Google "model M pull up resistor" and the very first hit will be what you're after.

hey /g/ would yo mind to share a reliable source of cool batteries for T420 ? Must be from Europe sources.

Thanks in advance familia.

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Sup famiglia. I made a monster deal, T61 with a T7500 for 65 euros. I was going to buy the hi res 14.1" screen for it for that money, but I totally lucked out and got this for the same money I would've paid for the screen alone.

If it's tatty, I'll just swap out the case for my T60 and everything will be perfect. Looked good in the pictures, can't wait to pick it up.

I think I can sell the T60 for about the same money I bought the T61.

>>55463662
Well done, Euranon. Enjoy.

Here's a helpful site for everything T61:

http://t61.wikispaces.com/home

>>55461289
>that tiny spacebar
how do japs cope with this

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>>55461289
JDM Thinkpad Bro

>>55446896
prepare for severe overheating , my dude.

I have one for an x220 and it fucking overheats like a motherfucker because that dumbass piece of plastic is exactly where the exhaust ports are for the fan

>>55447213
x220 owner here.
I have nes/snes/gen/gba/ds/ps1/64/gamecube all running decently on this thing.

everything works fine. Helps kill time at work

>>55464213
Can't you pull that off? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that's how you were able to get certain laptops to fit on that dock.

>>55464213
>>55464478
nevermind, answered my own question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feev_4DzfVI&feature=youtu.be

>>55461358
Really? I may put it on ebay.

>>55462814
Yeah I'd like to have Portuguese keyboard, I guess I'll order a PT-PT and then put the Japanese one on ebay.

>>55463725
Yeah... At first I thought no big deal, then I seen that space bar.

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>>55464626
>and then put the Japanese one on ebay.

Please let us know when you do, I'll be on it right away, Euroscum and all

>>55464716
I thought y'all were joking I just looked on eBay there's no Japanese keyboard for the x220 even available. I thought you could order any keyboard you want from lenovo website for $70? Well let me order a new one I'll list this one on ebay and will let you guys know, it will be 99 cent no reserve I just need a replacement first.

>>55464901
Yeah man it's pretty fucking rare. I found a store n Akihabara when I was there that had cheap X61's and stuff, thought I'd go there the day after but couldn't fucking find it again.. Will go back this fall and buy stuff.

But yeah, if anything shows up on fleabay I'm on it

>>55461289
I went out of my way to order a jap keyboard from nipland, all the way to the UK, because I can't stand the tiny windows key and the jap one is the only one with a full sized windows key

Worth it. Tiny backspace? I don't make mistakes typing (or rarely at least) Tiny spacebar? My thumb always hit the space in the middle anyway

Also more buttons if you want cool shortcuts on your keyboard. I'd keep it if I were you

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Time for an external monitor

>>55465173
weren't you the guy just earlier waiting for that keyboard to arrive, feet with shoes on desk and all?

Anyway you better get a monitor, using that keyboard but on the T420's TN panel is kinda a waste

>>55465234
yeah I can barely see my monitor from this distance

god damn does this keyboard feel good though. I had one when I was a kid (dad stole a few from his government job), really makes me nostalgic.

going to get a 22" Dell to match all this other business class shit, shouldn't take long to find a good one.

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>>55465300
Kinda curious now, what are your T420's specs?

>>55465379

quad core i7 swap, 8 gigs of ram, 120gb 850 Evo SSD, hdd caddy in place of dvdr, bluetooth, ultimate N

only thing it's missing is the Nvidia mobo, but I'm done modding it, I'll just get a newer T series or build a desktop if I ever need more power

>>55465122
What's the appeal of the jap keyboard? Is it just because of the "extra" keys?

What's a good portable thinkpad? i already have a 15 inch laptop but am looking for a smaller portable machine i can take to class. had my eyes on an 11e but not sure if i can get something cheaper/used.

I'm worried that my T420 AC adapter is going to give out soon due to constant traveling.

Any tips for searching?

>>55453542
>hurr an ez thread 2 troll lel thinkpad sux xD

>>55465421
Cool ass moon runes.

Is there a Russian keyboard with Cryllic? That'd look pretty dope if it had a non-retarded layout.

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>>55465421
Cons:
Tiny backspace
Smaller spacebar to make space for the japanese buttons
A few different key placements which don't matter because you can set language to any keyboard
Shift is long like the US keyboards yet Enter key is tall like the EU keyboards
Moonrunes (this may be a pro if you're a weeb)

Pros:
If you like a long left shift like me so your pinkie only goes down like on US keyboards not diagonally right down like on EU keyboards, you have it
If you like big-ass pretty blue/purple enter keys you got it
More face buttons which may or may not look cool, also more buttons to assign to whatever you please
Full size windows key instead of that 3/4 fucker I despised pressing (most of my custom binds are something like CTRL+WIN+SHIFT (easy to do with 3 fingers) + whatever button I want to set whatever program / action / script to)
If you're a japophile you may enjoy the moonrunes

Personally I use a US language software layout on it, and the backspace is still easy to hit - it's a full sized key, but I get the thing I like from the US keyboard of large left shift, plus a nice big enter key that US keyboards lack, and I always hit space in the middle anyway so it's not an issue for me

It's also fun to try and learn the nip layout.

But yea it's very specific, I'd only keep the jap keyboard if - you are a huge weeb and are actually gonna use the jap features on it OR if you really want the small differences such as certain key sizes and shit.
I also like buttons in general and this keyboard has more buttons so it looks cooler motherfucker

If you google one of the X60 or X61 or tablet variants and jap keyboard those fuckers are the coolest looking keyboards as they have all the keys but in that thinner-on-the-left-and-right-sides way that the X60/61 had

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>>55465790
Here's the tiny jap keyboard, looks cool as shit, I'd get an X60/X61 Tablet if only they were actually usable / fast enough for the stuff I use my X220 for, they look great

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>>55465825
>>55465790
While I'm at it, here, the US keyboard, EU keyboard (general layout) and JP keyboard

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What are these rubber things on the side of the X230Tthat hold the screen in place called?

>>55450941
It's big, heavy, and has terrible battery life.
AND it costs a LOT.
I found one in my local area for $350 with a 600 gig ssd, and 24 gigs of ram. so I'm hoping I can get money to buy it before he sells it.

>>55465892
Replace the whole keyboard bezel. They don't make just the rubber tits, it's a fucking travesty.

I want to pick up a T420 but the apparently shitty display is preventing me from getting one

Are there Thinkpads similar to the T420 but with a decent screen?

>>55465693
standard ansi with cyrillic sub legends

>>55459092
I tried to hackintosh my hd 3000 1366x768 only t420 and it had this weird quadruple image issue

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>>55465933
T520 has 1080p but still TN

X220 has an actually great IPS but is 12.5 inches and 768p only
X220 tablet also has good IPS but same size and res max

T420 and X220 (as well as T430 and X230) have mods available for full HD IPS great screens, but the X220/X230 one sacrifices the displayport and the T420 recquires some chopping off of the insides of the T420 but no loss of displayport


If I were you I would consider the X220 IPS, it's the easiest solution, not much smaller than T420, and nearly the same in specs, but you will have to think about that 768p screen. For me it's no problem as I use a monitor at home and outside of the house it's still enough for the work I do (and since it's a modern 16:9 screen, consuming video media is much nicer on the IPS screen despite lower res than on a T420 900p screen as it's actually such a bad TN)

>>55465666
if you think thats a good keyboard layout you should probably kill yourself

>>55465666
the literal only negative is the six row layout vs 7 row

the keys feel exactly the same and have the same surface area as the older version, and it still has the spaces between every fourth f key to help you find your way around the top row

bfd faggot

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Greetings fellow Thinkpad users.

>>55466866
nice t430 w/ ultrabay caddy

>>55466925
I have a 850 evo in the other sata bay, I was disappointed when the 9.5mm drive wouldn't fit, so I got the caddy then the ssd.

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just bought an ibm lenovo mini 10. ive wanted a trackpoint for ages and ended up paying $70 aud on ebay no shipping.

i reckon itll be great for leet programming on the train and i dont need any latest graphics memes for gayming, but ive never had a lenovo. did i do good, g?

>>55461368
>>55462814
>>55463798
>>55464716
>>55464981
>>55465693
>>55465790
>>55465825
>>55465866

hey anons, i found one on ebay i figured youd want to see, it is not my item. I been looking at prices and thought i could get away with ordering a english one cheaper than portuguese but at the current prices, it would be the same thing.

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T420-Japanese-English-Keyboard-SOLD-AS-IS-/191905281577?hash=item2cae723629:g:yEwAAOSwVllXHlBw

>>55466866
COCO?

>>55467130
>May not ship to [yuropoor]

Neat

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Dankpads update: I am almost done w/ the 15 & up ivy bridge, 4 more laptops needed before complete (rMBPs).

Friday/Saturday I am gonna grind on ultraportables and below, going to include slate tablets, maybe some android and iOS bullshit as well.

I am hoping by Tuesday I will be done. Sfter that I will upload Google sheets and/or spreadsheet of all the laptop data I've got.

Will maybe mess with the website layout, using pages instead of posts.
Also once that's taken care of gonna put them Google Adwords, one on top and one on bottom, considering pop up ads instead of banners. D;

Jk.
Let me know if there's anything I missed or something better I can do.

Eventually I will sort out high/low prices for each condition on those laptops for us advanced folk.

Any yuropoors here?
Where do you get your Chinkpad batteries?

>>55467085
I believe Latios has excellent experience with a Mini 10. :^)

>>55466866
Hello.

>>55465933
Other than the IPS mod, there's swapping an Alienware m14x panel, just be sure you have a 900p display cable for your T420.

>>55461980
Nice, been wanting to try a T450/60s so I can rest my case on X1C3/4.

>>55446799
T460p, still hasn't shipped, but then again I ordered it 2 days ago.

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Looking at the Buyers Guide, would a T440 be fine for someone going back to college to fall for the
>cs grad
meme?

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with the new addition of this T520 today, I am now the proud owner of 4 glorious thinkpads (T520, T400, T41, T30) I'm amazed at the specs on this thing. Is there anywhere where I can find all the Lenovo software/drivers available for one download?

>>55467439
vim and gcc will run on a raspberry pi

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>>55467458
coming from a T400 to this thing is nuts, wonder if CSGO will run well on it.

>>55467338
did you take apart that imac?
if so how hard was it?
I want to upgrade my 2013 21" to 16 gigs of ram, but I don't want to do it if it's going to be too difficult.

>>55467518
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+21.5-Inch+EMC+2308+RAM+Replacement/1762

have fun anon :^).

>>55467578
that's a 2008 where ram upgrades where easily possible (not really that easy to do because getting that ram in there is a pain in the ass)

>>55467439
only if you replace the touchpad

>>55467283
any clue why that is so difficult to find on ebay or amazon?

>>55467591
oh, whoops, i had the wrong one still in my clipboard.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+21.5-Inch+EMC+2638+RAM+Replacement/28795

hey anons i been wanting to buy a Pentium 3 thinkpad, best possible specs, any sugestions? I was thinking of T23.

>>55467485
also, always been curious. what programs does /g/ instantly install on a new PC (not thinkpad specific) and does the dock for this have a GPU built in??

>>55467657
Hey, I actually have a T23 running XP right now. First things first, get a linux CD. CD is much easier than USB. I have been trying for a month, and it is just plain old hard. Second, you don't really want it. You want a T60, which is better in everyway.

>>55467485
touchpad on this thing is weird but kind of cool, it'll take some getting used to (other than using the glorious thinkclit). also, which programs does /g/ instantly install on a new laptop? and does anyone know if the mini dock plus series 3 has a GPU built into it? will it show any difference in performance using it?

>>55467686
Well anon reason Im thinking of a P3 machine is to have the best possible retro gaming machine with the most compatibility,

Pentium III works well with Windows 95/3.11 and it should still have DOS drivers for sound. I got a x220 but other than emulation I can not get native DOS drivers for the sound card under freedos or msdos. So I figured another machine, that would be cheap and it would have a single purpose why not.

>>55467799
Oh, well as far as specifications go, I don't see why not for Dos. Should work, since it does have a 1.13 Ghz processor. It can also support up to 1 GB Ram (DDR1 I think?). So good luck. I got mine for $5 at a flea market, so best of luck finding one. also, run Windows 95/98/3.11. XP is laggy as hell.

>>55467799
In the case of retro gaming, it's a much better idea to build a desktop P3 machine than to get a P3 laptop. Laptop graphics cards from the time will be completely inadequate unless you're only going to play DOS games, and for those you really want real MIDI hardware and a CRT monitor for the non-square pixels that most games of the era were designed around.

>>55467860
My concern is that it wouldn't run anon, my concern is the sound drivers. There don't seem to be any native sound drivers for DOS on models newer than P3s

GUYS WE NEED YOUR HELP
>>>55467473

>>55468066
If the Raid brand bug bomb didn't work hire a professional.
The laptop is innocent.

>>55467518
Suction cup helps, nails will do tho, glass is just magnetized
You'll need a few sets of torx screwdrivers, pain in the ass, 2 sets for this one.
I don't know where ram is on the thin iMacs.

It's easy once you open up the 10th IMac.

>>55450546
Get your feet off the desk you mongoloid

>>55466096
>T520 has 1080p but still TN
It's TN but it's one of the greatest TNs ever made

You can see in >>55452131 that it's not terribly worse than the X220's display, especially compared to the T430 in the middle (equivalent to T420)

>>55447213
x220 and you can get pretty much whatever part you want for it. It's an awesome little machine. Battery life is great with the 9 cell battery and it seems you can go for almost 20 hours with the slice battery too.

>>55449315
>xps 13
what a cuck. one of the shittiest laptops ever made.

>>55468066
Heat is the only sure fire way to get rid of all of them. Sorry man they suck dick.

>>55468066
Yeah, get your blankets and put it in the dryer for 2 hours highest you can.

Shit sucks, idk how I got bedbugs, maybe from the used futon I had or from riding the trolley to downtown San Diego.
Luckily I was able to get rid of them before they went haywire.

>tfw HP Elitebook 2560p
>disabled the touchpad and still getting used to the trackpoint
Any tips on using this thing?

Do I really need more than 4 gigs of RAM on a T420?

>>55469340
Yes

>>55469444
tnx

>>55469340
>Not falling for the 16Gb meme

>>55469340
depends on what you do
if you use chrome use the great suspender extension

>>55469132
I asked the same above. They said stick to it for a week or two and keep sensitivity and acceleration low because it's easier when it's sorta slow.

I've also heard in other threads that it's surprisingly good to play FPS games. I'll be trying that today. Should be good training.

>>55465866
ISO > ANSI

>>55470571
>small enter key
>retarded hueg enter key
nah

New thread:
>>55470866