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Is this the new go to product for absolute value?

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Is this the new go to product for absolute value?
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Where can I still get the 4gb version of this? It seems to be sold out everywhere on newegg and amazon.
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no, wait for gtx 1060
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If you don't mind frying your mother board yea.
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NICE B8 MATTIY
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Pretty much. It's somehow able to shit on the 980 in DX12 and more and more DX12 titles are coming out.
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>>55364894
Pretty much, can't wait for the 8 pin ones though for overclocking.

Definitely going gigabyte, they've got great qc.
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Leave it to AMD to set new lows
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>>55364946
I love this meme, can I save it?
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untill 1060, so for 2 weeks.
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>>55364964
>shitting on the 980
>new lows
k
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>>55364894
In my country a non-reference GTX 980 is $50-60 more expensive
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>>55364977
Will the 1060 have 8GB o vRAM and only cost $239?

No? Fuck off then.
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I'm coming from the official /g/ graphics card of 2010/2011, an HD 6950 flashed with 6970 firmware. As someone who is upgrading more because of a desire to modernize and use less electricity rather than a need for more power, is this my best bet?
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>>55365021
>vram matters
Yeah the 8GB r9 390x sure destroyed the 6gb 980 ti
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>>55364991
>shitting
Truly a product of India.
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>>55365056
Not him but I'm actually mad at the 1060 VRAM option if its true.

Most of the games I run in 1440p are usually goes above 3GB of VRAM (Rarely reaching 4)

The fact that the 6GB version will be more expensive than it should be makes me angry
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>>55365056
>>vram matters
Good go.... I mean guy. 3GB is all you need, right?
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>>55364894
S H I T P O S T
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>>55365080
You mean like how the 8gb 480 costs more than the 4gb?

>>55365089
For many people, yes.
If 3.5 is enough, then 3 should be fine too.
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>>55364977
pajeets better start selling those GPU's.. Too bad they still value them over 300 EUR in my country. If they were 260-270 EUR would have probalby bought one by now..

oh well..
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>>55365116
I'm fucking mad at that too.

The 4GB variant cost 288 Dollarinos in my country.
The 8gb is 358. I cannot even make this shit up
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>>55364894
Yeah, TPU has it listed as the highest perf/dollar GPU there is.
Probably why Nvidia shills are so man.
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No, the 470 is. It OC's to 390 performance making it perfect for 1080p @ $150. Ordering the first non-reference that releases.
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No, the RX480 will trigger some system shut downs due to drawing more power from the PCIE slot than the fucking 6 pin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhjC_8ai7QA
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>>55365246
>citation needed
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>>55365246
These shit rumors and promises are exactly what made /g/ shit on the 480 so much. Fuck off.
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>>55365329
AYYMD LMAO
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>480 this
>480 that
Are Fermi memes cool again?
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>>55365329
Relevant?
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410
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>>55365436
>fermi
>cool
Kek
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>>55365436
>fermi
>anything but cool
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>>55365329
Science Studio
- I should clarify. The only motherboards that will likely experience any issues are those with terrible power delivery integration or boards from ~2006 and earlier featuring PCIe 1.0 and 2.0 revisions. Most modern boards - even the cheap ones - should be fine. Again, my suggestion is (just to be safe): wait for third-party 480s to roll out. Search for the 8-pin and 6-pin x2 cards and opt for those. Thanks for watching!

i love clickbait too
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>>55365525
>featuring PCIe 1.0 and 2.0 revisions
aye, AM3+ users BTFO
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>>55365525
Still doesn't change the fact that AMD skimped out by not putting in an 8 pin and letting it pull more watts from the PCIE than the external power.
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>>55364894
no, a fucking integrated gpu is, dumbass.
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>>55365668
>tfw i7 870
Looks like I'll be picking up a 1070 this week.
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>>55364894

Sorry AMD. With the PCIe power controversy and the 1060 coming out this month, I'm staying Team Green for another few years.

http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480
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>>55364972
The average value is what you should be looking at. Those spikes are an artifact of the high-frequency measurement.
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>>55365021
>card marketed towards 1080p gaming

>wants more than 4gb vRAM for 1080p
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>>55364894
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>>55365963
the 8gb vram is literally the cause of the issue. its the extra 4gb which is what uses the extra power.
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>>55364894
>doesn't even have DVI

How could I even recommend this with a straight face?
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>>55366028
Classic AMD
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>>55366006
Lol I'm hoping this PCI shit scares people and RX480 hit ebay for under $200 $170ish and I will buy 2 but this gif is fucking hilarious.
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>>55366066
Use an adapter.
No dvi = better airflow.
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>>55365401
>promises
An anonymous poster on the internet does not constitute a promise and the shitposting as of late has been trolls trolling trolls.
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>>55366066
>DVI
its 2016 gramps.
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>>55367142
It's how people interpret it.

It worked for the 480.
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>>55364894
fuck yes. just don't get reference.
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>>55366066
DP>DVI>everything else

It has DP so it's all good mane
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>>55364946
Kek.
Just like how every other GPU in history has done to every motherboard ever
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>>55365880
You're an idiot lol. The spikes are what will do damage. Having 20W above the rated value as average is fine, the tracers and VRM are over engineered to be safe and underrated to ensure they don't have to warranty them constantly.
Spikes are what blows tracers and CAPS. And even the 200-something Watt spikes aren't going to damage it at the tiny amperage they use.
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>>55365963
>>55366028
I mean it's useful for CF setups because let vram meme but that's about it. It can't run graphics intense enough as a single GPU to need 8GB. At the same time the spikes are a non-issue.
Seriously. Look at the history of GPS and MoBos.
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>>55365525
>poorfag card doesn't work on poorfag boards
Brilliant.
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>>55364972
>>55368928
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410
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>>55368977
What about vr?
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>>55364894
add the price of a new MB
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you can buy another mobo from the money you save from buying a 970
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>>55369372
>>55369399
Samefag
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>>55369495
You caught me! XD
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>>55369495
>>55369510
Samefag
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>>55369521
Kys
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an OCed 970 is better value currently. the 480 won't be good until AMD respins to fix the power issues. the card simply requires too much voltage to reach it's advertised clock speeds, so unless AIBs make some 400w frankencards it won't ever be good value.
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>>55369532
FUG XD
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>>55369535
A single 8 pin and a bigger heatsink would make it a much better buy.
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>>55365525
It's actually killing newer motherboards as well

https://community.amd.com/message/2732933
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>>55369590

6 pin and 8 pin can supply the same current. 480 needs two or three connectors, not an 'upgrade' to an 8 pin connector.
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>>55369682
No. 8 pin adds 2 ground connectors, increasing power up to 150w instead of 75w.

That would give the rx480 up to 225w available.
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>>55369716
>No. 8 pin adds 2 ground connectors, increasing power up to 150w instead of 75w.

that's not how electricity works, the 6 pin connector was originally only rated for 75w because the third 12v pin was optional. every psu manufacturer these days includes it though which means they can delivery the same amount of current safely. good PSUs are overbuilt and can handle the extra load even if you go out of spec as well.

extra ground literally just reduces chances of your pcie connector bursting into flames, it's useless to have the extra ones in practical use cases (which is why 8 pins on gpus are becoming extinct)
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>>55364894

Absolutely not. The 1060 is coming out this month and rumor has it that the 480's "weaker" sibling, the 470, has less power draw and can match its performance with a couple of tweaks.
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>>55369760
That's technically true, but the card still won't draw 150w from a 6 pin because it shouldn't.

Also cheap psu cables will melt.

It will benefit from 8pin.
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>>55364894
yes
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>>55370070
Eat shit and die
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>>55369777
Heres hoping that it can be uncucked from a 470 to 480
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It's a nice card. But if you have the money get yourself something better. Really.
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>>55371750
Is it true you can unlock 4gb to 8gb on the rx480?
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>>55364894
Yes.
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>>55364894
For five more days, maybe.
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>>55369612
>As you know, we continuously tune our GPUs in order to maximize their performance within their given power envelopes and the speed of the memory interface, which in this case is an unprecedented 8Gbps for GDDR5.
>Recently, we identified select scenarios where the tuning of some RX 480 boards was not optimal.
>Fortunately, we can adjust the GPU's tuning via software in order to resolve this issue. We are already testing a driver that implements a fix, and we will provide an update to the community on our progress on Tuesday (July 5, 2016).

Drivers will fix it.

At the cost of performance of course, but the reviews are out already so nobody cares.
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>>55372361
>unprecedented 8Gbps for GDDR5.
>unprecedented
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>>55364946
i killed pcper shil over the card and i will kill it here
have fun paid shills
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>>55369360
kek 2 days ago i said
"everyone that has a motherboard better than asrock/asus its fine with this card
turns out i was right lol
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>>55372405
>The more dangerous power draw pattern is that which which goes up and down significantly. Causing spikes. The RX 480 doesn't behave this way.
>the RX 480 DOES exhibit that up and down spiking behavior.
>The equipment will pick it up, but it lasts for a very brief amount of time.

That right there is a classic example of moving the goalposts.
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>>55372446
would love a nice and constructive rebuttal if you have any
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>>55365056
not him but I thought the 390x competed with the non-ti 980.


the only AMD card that demolished its nvidia counterpart is the 380.
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>>55364894
I don't want to buy a new mobo because of poo in loos incompetence.
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>>55372470
Pardon? Are you trying to say it is anyone's obligation to prove you wrong?

It seems that the presentation of poor logic is never-ending with you.

P.S. You might want to look at PCper's own graphs to see that "dangerous" up and down that you say the 480 doesn't have, especially when it is overclocked as they filtered the readings.
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It's pretty obvious now that the extreme clockspeed of Nvidia's 10XX series caught AMD totally off guard so they had to push 480 beyond its limits to make it appear better.
I wouldn't be surprised if an OC 1050 was able to trade blows with RX480.
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>>55372488
well as long as you actually find a second to answer then yes

pcper idiotc paper the one that actually instead of showing on the table that the pcie draws 75 watts he just shoved the 12v 66watt and didnt accounted the second rail that is 3.3? showing and while he shows that the cards draws 80 watts?and because of this the result was higher than anyone before?
the card normally draws 10% more from the pcie 75 to 80-84 that toms said
what pcper showed on his table was an increase of 22% 12 % of what it should normally be just because he "mistakenly" didnt included the whole current
that shit is some next level shit posting coming from nvidia's pr site
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>>55372531
480 has a base clock of 1080
people already have seen 1487
sapphire said they reached 1600+ on 2 pin setup
>beyond its limits
lel
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>>55372542
Stop lying already, the card is out, most people can't get 5% ocs without crashing
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>>55372552
have fun readin 36 pages
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603915/any-official-polaris-threads-coming-soon/350
have fun reading 44 here
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/amd-speculation-rumors-and-discussion.56719/page-194
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im new to all of this so I have a dumb question

[spoiler]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202221[/spoiler]

Is this card an aftermarket/AIB? Or are those not out yet
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>>55364894
It's 300 euro new here and performs about on par with a 970

I'm about to buy a 6 month old used MSI gaming 980ti with warranty for 350 euro. A card that is about 50% faster than a 480

The best products for absolute value are always used products, if you buy them from a good website with a rating system.

>inb4 buying used products

I could easily afford 20 1080's if I wanted to, but that doesn't mean I think it's worth it.
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>>55372586
fuck i cant even spoiler tag properly
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>>55372586
this is a refrence one the aib ones will come in 1-2 weeks
you can wait a bit
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>>55372611
thank you
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>>55372635

Sapphire Nitro AIB, est $260 - $280
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>>55372534
>well as long as you actually find a second to answer then yes
It is not anyone else's job to prove you wrong.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

>pcper idiotc paper the one that actually instead of showing on the table that the pcie draws 75 watts he just shoved the 12v 66watt and didnt accounted the second rail that is 3.3? showing and while he shows that the cards draws 80 watts?and because of this the result was higher than anyone before
Uh, wut? The graphs show 3.3v, 12v and 6pin power draw as well as total draw.
That seems to account for the 3.3v reading. Each is isloated and represented in the graph so the 3.3v was accounted contrary to your claim of "didn't accounted[sic]"

>what pcper showed on his table was an increase of 22% 12 % of what it should normally be just because he "mistakenly" didnt included the whole current
What current was not included? 12v rail, 3.3v rail, and the 6pin. What current was missed?
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Isn't DX12 exclusive to Windows 10?
What if I don't use the botnet, would a GTX be a better choice?
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>>55364894
Get a 1080
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>>55372725
did you saw any 3.3 on the table i uploaded? its literally taken off pcper site
they just state pcie spec 12volts and they totally forget about the second rail that is 3.3volits...
then they go and measure the card at 80 watts similiar to toms and thats ok we know it goes that up
now im not good on lying on marketing but that shit is top level green shit
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>>55372734
In 6 months there will just be more games using DX12. Once Battle Field goes DX12 everyone will follow. Nvidia or AMD it will not matter.
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>>55372784
But is it still not available for Windows 7 ?
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>>55372734
its not about exclusivity its about to accomodate nvidia basicly..
we know already that w10 is doing async on OS level along with the cpu now this cant be done on previous OS and if vulkan comes at full shit with async on it there will be a massacre
that is why after 2 years almost we havent seen any perfomance gain on vulkan AT ALL despite the fact they keep telling us that its fine...
its literally opengl v2.0 same team same idiots they gonna destroy it as they did with opengl
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>>55364953
cant even beat 390, what a joke
also Windows 10 for dx12
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>>55372814
I see, but I ordered a 480 and I don't plan to use Windows 10 any time soon with all the spying shit, so I'm still on Windows 7. I guess that means I get no gains
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>>55372783
>did you saw any 3.3 on the table i uploaded?
I'm not looking at your pics. I'm looking at the pics on PCper themselves.
http://www.pcper.com/image/view/71150?return=node%2F65670
In this one, the 3.3v line is steady under the 5w line.
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>>55372817
380 was beating 390?
280 was beating 290?
why the hell 480 would beat 390?
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>>55372798
Nope, W10 only, and when you do give in to the force. Go to:

http://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

They sell Windows keys for $30
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>>55372828
dude i know they showed there im not an idiot i wasnt talking about this
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480/Overclocking-Current-Testing
go down and see the table...do you see any 3.3 rail mentioned anywhere on that table? no and its logical since most of the people dont go all technical on their asses
the majority dont care to see spikes or non linear devices at work and bla bla if the table says this then its right..right?
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>>55364894
This card is dangerous, it will kill your motherboard
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>>55372871
He goes over the 3.3, read the article
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>>55372942
i dont really think you understand what im saying...
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>>55372832
>tfw Microsoft holds some of your potential performance gains hostage until you let them spy on your every move and give them $30
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>>55372956
Clearly you don't understand what you're saying
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>>55372871
>dude i know they showed there im not an idiot i wasnt talking about this

It wasn't you "schooling PCper" about "dangerous state of spikes and dips" and the 480 did not have any? A claim that was debunked with the graphics showing the "dangerous state of spikes and dips" with a 480 from Tom's? You responded by saying the raw responses don't matter. PCper provided filtered readings showing the same thing.

That wasn't you moving goalposts and then PCper spiked on that goalpost as well?
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>>55371441
>>55372781
>>55372734
>>55372932
N/v/idiot shills belong back on /v/
>>>/v/
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>>55373064
>N/v/idiot shills
But I bought a 480 myself
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>>55372996
i said the 480 have it for so little time that the equip couldnt measure it on the set time he had
and then i go and say that the 960 had the same spikes and even bigger but the difference was 960 spikes was longer than 480 much MUCH longer in duration
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>>55373086
no you dont
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>>55373116
Did you read the third page on PCper about this?
>With our ability to measure voltage and current, we return back to Metro: Last Light at 4K to find that amperage draw over the motherboard's +12V line stays right at 2.5A. That is a drastic difference compared to the RX 480 hitting more than 7A over the same line, especially considering the 5.5A limit from the PCI Express specification.
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>>55373146
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>>55373211
someone should post this on tom and let the site war begin
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>>55372189
No reviewers were provided with 8gb cards where you can switch between 4gb and 8gb memory thru bios to simplify shipping and shit.
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>>55368960
You are fucking retarded, quick high spikes won't do anything, it's the heat that fucks it up. So longer periods over recommended spec fries your slot like the 480 does.
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Price/performance king is still the r9 290 cucks.
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>>55365840
Implying the 1060 won't suck at anything above 1080p with higher texture resolutions. Oh and remember goy, ASYNC compute.
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>>55368960
You know absolutely nothing about digital electronics and power phases.
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>>55364953
>>55372817
>>55372829

first off, 480 is a gen newer then the 390, so it beating it was something of a given.

that said, the 2 other people, the 390 and 390x are fucking hamstrung by amd drivers, however in mantle and dx12 (no real vulcan game yet) the 390/390x get to use the entire card as hard as it will go, if anything this shows off how powerful those cards would be if amd could get their drivers sorted the fuck out.
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>>55365963
them high res textures that are coming, we keep seeing games requiring 6gb cards that will be a normal option soon.
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can anyone prove me 480 will not cause longterm damage
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>>55364946

The two I have have not fried my mobo :)
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>>55372361
you can undervolt it a bit while keeping current clocks, should easily be able to fix the problem.
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>>55372832
ill dual boot win 7 and 10 possibly use a virtual os for them so i don't have to shut shit down and get a 32gb computer to facilitate this.
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>>55364894
>>>/v/
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>>55372470
the tech is designed to handle short spike in W, by the use of capacitors, what the pci-e slot is not designed is continue use of over the limit W, the famous example is the 960gtx strics which amd shills keep bringing up, it have lots of spikes but its alright since its average 55W (well below 66W limit), on other hand RX480 also have these same spikes, which is alright as well, but its averaging 80W, which is outside of pcie limit.
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>>55364894
don't forget, the 1060 will be a better value than any shit AMD will try to rip-off.
Fucking chink-shit.
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>>55375847
It did cause short term damage. And this guy had his cards undervolted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg15438599#msg15438599
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>>55364894
Fuck off dumb /v/ poster
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>>55375874

>>55375874
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