AMD Radeon RX 480 Performance Leaked: On Par With GTX 970, Mediocre OC

>>55297947
lol wcc and vcardz reposting the same shittier polnish benchmark that shows an heavy OVERCLOCKED 970 vs a stock 480.

which is totaly fine because a heavy oc 970 = stock 980 so the 480 perfoms just fine on 980 level.

>Mediocre Overclocking Capabilities
>14nm

holy fucking shit

AMD Bankrupt

let them fucking die out already

>>55298014
>1070 max stable oc possible is 10% stop cuck

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>>55297964
Read the review, the 480 have a shitty overcloking tho...Keep your 970/390.

>Buying AMD
>Supporting terrorism

Pick two. And only two.

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MRW when I saw the results

>>55298014
Samsung giving Global Foundries shit tech so Samsung can buy out AMD

>buying new process products at launch

MAXIMUM kek.

I'm waiting at least a year for the new nodes to mature. By then Nvidia and AMD will have their rehashes out and the node will be nice and cozy.

Always upgrade halfway through a node, never at the launch of one. The processes are hella expensive at launch, low yields, bad silicon, etc.

>>55298032
>Read the review
sorry, I'm from first world country.

>This means that a average overclock of 1350 MHz is possible with the Radeon RX 480 while anything near the 1400 MHz will crash the card. It could be due to thermal instability due to the cheaper cooler design which we had discussed here.

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55297964
> it's OVERCLOCKED you guys!!

You've been spouting that shit in 5 different threads all day dumbass, the exact same argument over and over.

So what happens when you OVERCLOCK your 480 and get a 14% increase in performance?
> But it's better than a STOCK 980 b-baka nvidia shills!
> I-it was never meant to compete with this card anyway, it blows the 970 out of the water! That's what matters! AMD WINS

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What if the 1060 will have 980 performance?

AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

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>the Radeon RX 480 is said to cause lots of artifacts with a mere 5% overclock. A 7% overclock will cause the system to freeze entirely.

What the fuck...

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>480 = 380oc

>>55298051
>just le wait xDD
>lol, saved my money, and a better card will be out in 6 months!
>enjoy your shitty GTX 1080 :DD in 6 months I'll have a 490 that performs almost as good!

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The AMD-niche explained in a nuttshell:

>pjotr from the commieblock that wants to impress the kid from hallway 3A because he has a hot sister Yuliana but unbeknowst to him she already sucks mean western dick at 20€ an hour

>the AMD-neet that gets autismbux and must defend the honour of the only shitty card he can afford

>the kid that due to mom's allowance or by virtue of mowing lawns can only afford the AMD card

Life must truly suck if your only option is a card that gets beaten by a 2 year old 970.

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>>55298086

wow just.............


wow

WAIT FOR THE DRIVER, with it it can achieve 980 performance

>>55298112
It's impressive that you interpreted my post as pro-AMD, when I'm actually making fun of all retards buying brand new beta silicon. Whether it's a 480 or 1080, you're a retard if you buy this trash.

I bought a 780Ti well into 28nm's life cycle, and I plan to buy an 1180Ti well into 16nm's life cycle, like a smart person (aka not you).

>>55298124

And I suppose the 980's performance will stay EXACTLY the same and generously wait for the 480 to catch up in about half a year?

>purposely waiting to buy a cuck tier poorfag card

literally fuck off with this shit, the 1080 is the most powerful card literally ever made, and it would be a mistake not to buy it. Thanks to BASED Nvidia, you can get an unmatched power from a single card that outperforms any shit tier AMDrone cuck card, especially the fucking firehouse fury, and there's literally no excuse for not buying a superior Nvidia card. Also any jelly AMDrone cuck that tries to rebute this needs to fuck off, one: there's no argument for superiority, two: AYYMD opinion dis""Carded""... Also don't expect anything near as good from AMDrone, the 490x? more like the 490nothankyou

>inb4 muh powerdraw
>inb4 muh temps
>inb4 muh powerdraw

fuck off, there is nothing from with a 450 watt TPD, and 100C is a temp the card was tested to run at, so it literally doesn't fucking matter.

I sold my gtx 970 like a year ago and have been rockin' the good ol hd4600 ever since, so it the rx 480 really got me amped up, especially with all this shilling going on on /g/ about it beating the 980.

Meanwhile, it barely catches on to the 970. It's still a good deal I guess, but only if the tdp is better than the 970. Maybe the non-reference 480 will overclock better.

>>55298152
>literally no excuse
Being poor is a pretty good excuse tho

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>>55298115
well greentext'd my friend

>>55298152

1080 is GP104 and only high end

Top Tier flagships are GP102 / GP100 aka 1080 Ti / Titan which well see in 2017 probably

WAIT FOR VEGA
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>>55297963
Those bullshit benchmarks show the 480's performance in Fire Strike Extreme decreasing once it's overclocked. The top set of graphs are so shoddy that they're not even labelled properly. If you're going to fake something, you have to make it realistic.

>>55298187

Probably never going to see it

>>55297963
>stock card at launch vs. maximally OCd card with a couple of years of driver support
>in goyworks games

top kek

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why are you even arguing about that

why would you ever believe a $250 card would btfo the $500 ones ( looking at you people who thought the 480 would be on par with Ti once overclocked )

are you just fucking retarded

do you think amd or nvidia are there to make you happy ?

no they exist to make money and if a card costs $250 then its on par with another card that costs $250

Wow.

The ride never ends. You people didn't really expect some incredible deal did you?

It's a good mid range card and it's cheap. That will actually be fine for me. I can't be bothered buying the top end cards anymore.

Far out the shilling is in overdrive and the real benchmarks arent even out

>>55298226
When was the last time we had truly good value? the 4870? The 8800GT?

The GPU industry has really gone to shit. Wish AMD would stop sucking and bring the heat to nshitia.

>>55298028
I do not know where you got that number. Mine gets a solid 230MHz core offset which keeps my clocks above 2000MHz. It's more like a 12% in that instance, but I hit a power limit. Better 1070 SKUs will go higher

>>55298032
would my 390 be better for 1440k ultra wide than the 480?

>>55298129
That's assuming they don't bump down to 14nm next generation just because they can

>>55298249
Wait. For. Benchmarks...

>>55298258
AFAIK there's still no solid confirmation of whether GF's 14nm is superior to TSMC's 16nm. The 14nm is very slightly denser, but still might have more leakage or some shit like that leading to an overall worse process.

>>55298238
The 1070.

>>55298181
I believe the GP100 is what is in the Tesla meaning it would not be capable of gaming really. I think the titan and the 1080Ti will both run a GP102 core

>>55298238
>When was the last time we had truly good value?
Been using the HD7850 since 2010. I think I bought it for 300-350 dollarydoos. It's been unbelievably good value, which is why I wanted to wait for the 480 and stick with amd.

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>>55297958
a 380x beat a 970 OC ?!?!?

TRAAAASHHHH

480x without drivers on pair with heavy oc970/980

HAHAHAHAHAHA NVIDIOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>55298287
It's proof that Nvidia is gimping older cards

KYLE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

ENJOY YOUR AYYMD HOUSEFIRES, AYYMDPOORFAGS

>>55298249
Most likely yes.

It's in the name dude. The 480 is just a faster 380. It's going to be the ultimate card in terms of price/performance for 1080p, but for 1440p you'll want the extra headroom the 390 will provide.

Or depending on how expensive the 390, you can just pick up a 480 for now and upgrade to a 490 when it comes out.

>>55298282
7850 was good but not incredible. Although if you got a model that could hit 1400-1500 it was pretty great.

>>55298277
>980Ti performance for $400 is considered good value now

Truly this industry is doomed.

>>55298317
More like Titan X level of performance.

anyone here fuck men?

>>55298317
If you don't like the prices, don't buy it. Wait for used or actual MSRP cards (which might not happen because NVidia fucked that one up hard)
>>55298325
The 1070 trades blows and barely overtakes the 980ti until you get into DX12 which the 980ti does not have native support for

>>55298350
The 980ti was also literally twice as expensive when it came out. If this isn't progress then I don't know what is.

>>55298241
1070 does go above 2050/21000 even with custom pcbs.

>>55298282
7850 2gb came out in March 2012. Bought a sapphire one at launch for $200 cad and still using it. Thing rocks. The whole 7xxx lineupwas beast.
>>55298317
Mine oc to 1200/1350 all day Np. Great card.

>>55298370
>20% performance increases
>50% price increases
>progress

Is it still worth buying if I'm building my first PC?

Or should I wait for GTX 980 (Ti) in a lower price?

Jaka szkoda że wyciekło.

>>55298408
I don't even know what you're trying to say.

I guess I'll be getting 2 1080 to make up for this.

You guys were shilling this shit so hard as the b second coming last week too. Not a bad card for $200 still, but that's completely unremarkable. I really should just learn my lesson and never take AMD hype seriously. It's the same thing every single time on /g/.

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APOLOGIZE /g/

why is there so much shilling honestly

imagine if we had this autism for ram brands

>retards hyping up this card

Well, allright, business as usual.

Nothing to see here.

>>55298548
>implying it doesn't happen

just make DDR3 is as good as DDR4 thread and see how that will end.

>>55298548
I'm actually convinced there are Nvidia PR employees for on /g/ today.

>>55298391
7870 here, still kicking. Wondering if the 480 is a worthy upgrade or not for 1080p. 970 performance for 200$ is still a good deal right?

>>55298038
What if I want three?

as good as a 970 yet without crippling vram issues? sounds pretty good.

>>55298553
They really thought they'd get something above average for $200.

It's cute

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Damn it, I knew it was impossible for it to be on par with 980 whilst being half the price.

Although I still keep living in denial unless I see some official benchmarks

>>55298576
no anon, they do it for free

>>55298152
Alright, the card sucks, but there's no need to get buttblasted about it you retard. You sound like a paid nvidia shill trying to do damage control.

Guys I'm so sick of AMD.

Why can't they just fucking die already, all they do is make mediocre products and are always 3 years behind their competition.

>>55298604
A 970 with 8gbs of ram and low power draw for higher OC potential at $200 is literally nothing to scoff at.

>>55297947
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FUCK

I sold my R9 390 3 weeks ago on ebay to buy this because you guys were saying it could OC to Fury X performence and this shit is like the same performence I had before.

>>55298665
muh budget

>>55298714
>because you guys were saying
Are you unable to think for yourself?

>>55298714
>trusting /g/
You deserve it

>>55298705

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so, anyone remember those weird russian reviews of 1080? apparently they also were a lie

Seems like the 480 is the Farage/Boris of the gpu world. Promised so much yet is full of shit when the truth comes out
Bravo AMD bravo

It's really strange that every time there's a thread about this card, I see a shitload of idiots going "omg so many fuckin shills" and nobody actually saying anything except trying to discuss the information at hand.

Like shit, are you mad that this didn't happen last month with Pascal? Nvidia didn't have as many leaks, the fuck do you want?

Shut the fuck up about shilling already. $200 for 980 performance on a sub 150W part that has full DX12 support is the best deal PC gamers have gotten in years. It doesn't need to beat a 980Ti or even a 980. That's not shilling, it's a fucking fact and if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it. I don't give a fuck if you buy it or not, and neither does 90% of /g/, so piss off back to your anime.

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>>55298669
Ye but I wus promised 980 lvl waaaaaa

>>55298143
It will drop in performance

>>55298143
well yeah, maxwell is useless without profile support and driver FOR EACH AND SINGLE GAME

>>55298778
>$200 for 980 performance
The point is that it is not getting anywhere near 980 performance as promised

>>55297947
Is the $200 thing true? If the 970 is still $250 I guess it might be worth looking at, just wish they told the truth instead of lying saying how great it will be. (Like they always do... Fiji, bulldozer...) guess one more day and I can read a review instead of all these shill posts.

>980 performance
End this meme please.

>>55298604
AMD failed, Nvidia increased their per core performance this generation by 50%.

Even if Polaris slightly exceeds the 390x its only a 25% increase per core and they were working with a much older arch. The 480 would have be equivalent to a Fury to match the performance gains we from comparing the 1070 to the 980ti.

Sad to say but Polaris is AMD just catching up to Maxwell.

>>55298778
It's not 980 performance Pajeet.

>>55297947
>RX480 shown performing worse than the R9 380X in some games and claims that it can't be overclocked
Something seems fishy about this review.

>>55298832
Last week it was up to 980ti performance.
Amazing how its dropped and now its again a budget card.

>>55298812
come on, just 23 hours left for real reviews

>>55297947
rx 480 was overhyped and is shit, wait for custom cards cuz the stock cooler will botteneck the fuck outta it. A custom card decently overclocked might actually match a gtx 970...

>980ti PERFORMANCE
>TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS

>>55298249
or wait for rx 480 to hit peak stock after refresh and buy a 390x once prices are slashed on the older generation #genius #listen to me

>>55298812
>as promised

Where the fuck did they promise that? First benchs were a slightly superior 970, and that's what finally is if this thread benchs are true.

>>55298849
I know, but we need something to shitpost about for today

>>55298391
>The whole 7xxx lineupwas beast.
Yeah, it was and still is. Was a bit lacklustre on launch though but the drivers fixed that right after the nvidia launch.

test

If the 4gb version will cost 250 eurokeks here in Europe, I'm buying it and considering it a better option thant he 380x.

There is absolutely no reason to get an 8g version of card that is no good for anything above 1080p. Absolutely none.

why is everybody saying "980ti perf."
weren't first leaks about 390x perf? aren't these benchmarks still 390x perf.?

>>55297958
>>55297963
First or the top most comment.

"Here in Poland CD-Action is not any kind of respectable hardware reviewer, this is gaming magazine. Also those charts are containing many mistakes, like 380X performing better than overclocked 970 is some cases. Overall not very reliable reviewer who also made a lot of mistakes in this particular test. Just wait until tomorrow or for leaks from some actual hardware reviewers, not randoms. "

>>55298853
Damage has been done already. That card will be the new 3.5

>>55298906

the 380x is not performing better than the 970 you fucking retard. It got a few more fps at MEDIUM settings. It gets buttblasted at high settings.

>>55298837
>Nvidia increased their per core performance this generation by 50%.

It's cute how very, very wrong you are.

>>55298916
Nigga, it just said that "NOT A VERY RELIABLE REVIEWER". Take it or fucking leave it, I don't give a shit either way. GO shill NVIDIA/AMD on /v/.

>>55298942

Who gives a fuck nigger? The rx 480 was always supposed to compete with mid-range cards like 960, only the fucking shills started babbling it will reach nano or 980ti levels.

Fucking AMD keks

>>55298812
$200 looks good, but start comparing it to a 390 OC and its not nearly as exciting.

$230 to match 480 to 390 8gb.
$260 and 3 more weeks for a decent custom 480.
390 same price, comes with game bundles.
OC vs OC 10%? performance difference. Would have been a pretty far cry from getting a new card that beat 980ti for $400 had Nvidia not flubbed their launch and jewed everyone with this FE bullshit.

A 56 CU card on 14nm at $400 in stores right now would be crushing nvidia with this shitty launch.

>>55298085
Its looking like its gonna cost 80-100 usd more, so maybe not quite

>>55298426
If you're doing a build now, I would get last gen AMD or this gen anything for the DX12 support when an if it takes off

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>>55298302

>b-b-b-but.... MUH D-DRIVERS....

>BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

you used up all your excuses, now we've got you zeroed. prepare the meme cannons. this will be the buttblasting of 10 lifetimes.

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The Rx480 is not even as good as the R9 390x even tho is has comparable hardware specs? How is that even possible? Did they spend all that time finding a way to make their cards less powerful? Something is not adding up here.

f-fuck you guys! This card is gonna be as good as a 980ti and OC'd it'll beat a 1070 and maybe even a 1080 (if we can OC it high enough)!

>>55298577
The 970 is dropping to about $200. Still, for a current gen card, it is not a bad deal. It will be better equipped than most cards of the last generation

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>>55298950
>Who gives a fuck nigger?
People who don't like misinformation maybe? Not sure if African-American like you understands that.

>>55298970
it has 1/3 CUs less though.

So it's okay if I buy a used r9 390?

>>55298980
yeah, in tw-three huge US stores maybe
right now I see 970 15% cheaper than 1070 for in my country

"Gaming power consumption is also sky high, surpassing the dual-GPU Radeon HD 7990, which leads to one of the worst performance-per-watt scores we've seen in recent years. The GTX 980 against which the R9 390X seems to compete is more than twice as power efficient."

AMD is a curry nigger company, plan and simple. I expect the 480 to be on par with the 390x botch job

The AyyyMD buttblasting after release will be on par with what Britbongs had to experience on /sp/ yesterday.

I can't imagine anything more sad than being English and buying a 480 desu

>>55298981
"African American".
Pick one you cant be fucking both.

>>55298940
Not that guy. My 1070 gets roughly 45-50% more performance compared to my 970. I'm not saying it's per core on the die, but it is a massive leap

>>55298981
OOOGA BOOOGA BIX NOOD WATERMELON WHITE WOMYN?

>>55298988
kind of, I wouldn't though, sued cards have too many uderwater stones
it's like used 10yo cars with 50k km on the dial

>>55299012
Not really as we are used to losing at sporting events.
Important stuff like world wars we do ok at.

>>55298648
This garbage is pasted in every 480 thread. Its b8, just dont reply

>>55298940
You can explain how I'm interested. They got the 600mm2 980ti with 2816 processors onto a 314mm2 chip with 1920 processors, half the tmus, 2/3 the number of rops. Clock speeds are up 600 mhz compared to 150mhz for AMD.

Here's the reality.

AMD is going to sell a ton of RX 480s because the price point is attractive and it is labeled as VR ready. Unless the 1060 shows up on shelves tomorrow then people looking for a $200 GPU are going to do a quick comparison of the RX 480 to the GTX 960/R9 380X/GTX 970 and see that the 480 is newer and has more VRAM. That's pretty much it.

$200 card casuals don't know or care about ROPs, shader counts, driver overhead, etc. They just want to play Assassin's Creed 4 or whatever on their 1080p monitor.

My wife's bull just told me to cancel my preorder and get the 1080 instead

WTF I hate AMD now.

>>55298773
>Seems like the 480 is the Farage/Boris of the gpu world. Promised so much yet is full of shit when the truth comes out

Remain voters are such whingey faggots, fuck off.

>>55298669
>same rated TDP as 970 and 980
>implying the AMD card won't somehow end up running hotter than the nVidia cards it is going to compete with
>implying nVidia won't just cut prices and still have better driver support

>>55299085
Coming from an AMD cuck that means very little.

>>55298648
Kind of a reason, the shills have been flooding /g/ with non stop threads about how great this card is going to be and hyping the ever loving shit out of it. Now it looks like it's gonna launch and be total shit... Why not just tell the truth and not lie and get peoples hopes up? "Hey, we have a card that should be quite a bit cheaper than the 970, and perform pretty close to it." then people won't be disappointed and lied to.

>>55298983
It should still perform better than a 380x. This leak seems weird even amongst all the other bullshit leaks.

>>55298669
Yeah, so why not say that instead of "best card ever" now people just feel lied to.

All nvidia has to do at this moment to absolutely crush the 480 is to lower the prices of the 980/970. If there are any paid shills out there, listen up: tell your bosses to lower the prices and AMD will be officially bankrupt and dead.

>wccftech
>videocardz
Lol, quality sources there OP.

>>55299107
>can't tell the difference between false-flagging nvidiots and actual AMD enthusiasts

Some simple math has pretty much told us all we need to know about this chip for a while now, namely that it'd be somewhere around 390/970 performance at stock and if it overclocks really well that it could reach 390x/980 levels. That's the only real unknown but given GCN's history of weak overclocking not something that people should have been banking on. Only the most optimistic people thought it'd be able to reach Fury levels when overclocked. The die just isn't big enough to be that powerful.

>>55298970
Theres no arch improvements outside of the clock speed.
2304 CU 480 at 1266mhz is 5833 tflops.
2816 CU 390x at 1050mhz is 5913 tflops.
If they had just stuck Hawaii on the smaller node and clocked it up 200mhz it would probably be better than this.

>>55299144
Bar the results were posted in a magazine so theyre viable.

>>55298714
Made up story. And if it's true, well we can't help it if your an idiot. You probably deleted sys32 also? Why would you even consider a 980 as a step up from a 390? It was never supposed to be a high performance solution. If anything, you have a 390x with half the heat/power consumption, and half the price tag.

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>>55298970

>Did they spend all that time finding a way to make their cards less powerful?

YEEEEEESS!

It's all this trendy "low-power" bollocks.

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As Dora the Spic would say, This cock is deliciosso!

>>55299131
Maxwell is out of production so there aren't many 970s and 980s out there still waiting to be sold. The 1060 is Nvidia's only real answer to the 480 and it is some months away.

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It has roughly the performance of a gtx 980. It uses roughly the power of a gtx 980.

AMD had to use a next generation process just to catch up with maxwell in performance/watt.

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>>55299022

>>55299131
Nvidia apparently doesn't give two shits about AMD. 980ti are slashed to $400 on newegg to compete with 1070s but the 980/970/960 are untouched.

>The performance results were originally posted by CD-Action (A Polish magazine) but have since been removed due to NDA
how can you remove a review from paper? it's a paper magazine

>>55299025
so okay I'll just stick to a 480 then

>>55299202
Have you not been reading anything?

NV has spies so they knew AyyMD fucked up 14nm, so they were able to sit back and simply shrink Maxwell and not do any actual work.

That's why both offerings are poor. When 16nm is cheaper/AyyMD unfuck themselves (if ever) you'll see some decent cards. I wouldn't buy any of these for now.

>>55299202
Nvidia's 960 can't compete with the 290X either

Like seriously how deep does the nvidia fanboyism have to go for you to not realise that this is a $200 card

>>55299052
Clock for clock, the core performance difference is nowhere near 50% like you claimed, simple as that.

>Comparing a reference 480 with non-reference OC'd 970
Are you guys serious?

>>55299233
>simply shrink Maxwell and not do any actual work

The only thing bad about pascal is the price and availability. If I could actually buy a 1070 strix for the advertised $400 price I would.

>>55299257
What else are we going to do today?

>>55299233
>GPU died
>using an 8 years old GPU i had in my closet
>i have nothing else

what the FR*CK am i supposed to do?

Welp literally the only good thing about this launch is that nvidia will probably start bundling a game with the 1070 now. Regret waiting for this.

>>55298746
noedar?

>>55299240
I didn't claim clock for clock, I said shader processor per shader processor. The 1070 for instance has a smaller core configuration than the 980.

>>55299268

Dunno about your country but in UK we are enjoying clearance sales of 900 series. £360 for Strix 980Ti for example.

>>55299292
>regret waiting for this
You could at least finish waiting for it

Look I'll shit on a card if it's shit but any information that comes out pre-NDA is completely worthless.

480 is indefensible.

Lower perf. than 390 for same price. 2 node jump + new arch should put it way above Hawaii XT.

That's it, nuff said.

http://sendvid.com/9m4hhaej

480 Noise during furmark testing

>>55299326
it's $440 for a 980ti for me, but why wouldn't I get a 1070 at that point?

>>55299372
>http://sendvid.com/9m4hhaej
holy shit thats fucking nothing

>>55299372
very quiet

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>$200 card on par with over $300+ OC'd card.

Seems fine to me. Sure the 380x OC is around the same price as the 480 but why buy an older card with older architecture, consuming more power for similar performance?

The 480 will do fine. It approaches close to 980 performance by the looks of things since the Zotac 970 OC approaches stock 980 levels.

Nvidia shills are in damage control mode using any bait they can to make up shit. I bet it was Nvidiots that kept throwing out the 1600Mhz meme too.

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390 = $250 for 8GB AIB with nice factory OC and cooler

480 = $240 just for 8GB reference

performance is within 5% of each other

bravo AMD

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the only ones talking shit is anyone with a better rig, literally 80% of the pc community are poorfags that need this, man you guys need to kys

>>55299415
I wouldn't be suprside if the AIB get closer to 1450, but 1600mhz is a joke.

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>>55299167
>Theres no arch improvements outside of the clock speed.

BS. The 480 is a 390x equivalent.

>>55298899
Nvidia shills in damage control spreading lies as usual. AMD fanboys taking the bait are just as bad.

>>55299397
>Reference fan (noise) is on par with an AIB fan
>Its fucking nothing

Retard

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>>55299424
You forgot the free warhammer total war.

>>55299429
80% already have a 970
RX480 is redundant on release baka

>don't wait for benchmarks
>the thread

>>55298886
never forget that i was nearly buying 670 and switched to a 7970 in the last moment. Still rocking games on max with a bit of oc.

crazy value for sure

>>55298848
The only people who said that the RX 480 was going to perform like a 980ti were trolls and those who ate into the rumors of the 480s that overclockedd to 1600+MHz.

>>55299449
>damage control

Hahaha what the actual fuck anon. Its AMD who have shit it royally with this crappy card.

>>55298837
By heavily overclocking the cores to the point there was barley any headroom to overclock afterwards.

>>55297958
>polish
>world of tanks
JUST FUCK MY TEAMS UP

>>55297947
I wanted to replace my GTX 550 ti by an RX 480, better to buy a 970 now or is a RX 480 still good? Budget is not a problem

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>>55299107
Most threads are Nvidia shills baiting AMD fags.

>>55299532
Wait for the benchmarks to come out tomorrow.
Once theyre out then you will have a better idea.
Also there may be some deals out on both of them

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I don't see the fuss. It lies exactly where most credible rumors pointed. It is still the best perf/price ratio and for people like me that need an upgrade (560ti) it is the best choice barring a substantial GTX1070 price cut (like €100 cut or more which ain't gonna happen).

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>>55299237
If they are a generation behind in performance/watt, it is implied that nvidia can make a better card for $200 in that it will be faster or have the same performance but use less power+run cooler.

>>55299383
There is no reason not to get a 1070 over the 980ti. Newer features, lower power draw, decent overclocks. Until the 980ti drops well below the 1070, it is not a good use of money right now.

>>55299499

>The only people who said that the RX 480 was going to perform like a 980ti were trolls

Stop with this damage control tinfoil shite. You (AyyMDfags) all desperately gobbled up any and all wccf garbage that made it look good. It was you.

>>55299442
I know they are there but the performance we should be seeing from it isn't.
The 480 has a 20% reduction in compute units compared to the 390x, and a 20% increase in core clock. So its like if it were an OC'd 36 cu hawaii.

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WHAT A FUCK ARE YOU GUYS EVEN DOING?
You're comparing 200$ card with 300$+ OC'd cards.
Fucking execute yourself,Nvidia scum.

RX480>any mid range Ncuckia card

was this already posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIAnvvBZIn4

>>55299107
AMD simply stated that this card was to bring VR to the masses at affordable prices. They never claimed God-tier performance.

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>>55299532

>debating between pleb cards
>Budget is not a problem

POO IN THE GPU

>>55299586
Then why are you now gobbling up garbage from the same website in order to justify the superiority of your brand. Also the source of these benchmarks is an unreliable Polish magazine which shows the 380X outperforming the 480 in some games and statements like >>55299009.

>>55299397
I think that was his point. Very quiet card. For reference this is great. This is also why it probably OC's poorly. Basically like everyone said. Wait for AIB's if you want to OC. AMD are selling this as a good midrange card that is fairly priced and has potential for future performance boosts through DX12 etc. Not as an overclockers dream card.

>>55299623
No but you bunch of strokers did. Totally believed all the shit about it being god tier and clockable up to 1070 specs... Now you all turn tail and deny it all.

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>>55298543
>tfw Nvidia (NJudea) won

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>>55299519
I originally thought that but the 1070 boost to about 1800 and then OCs to 2100. It sees the same performance gains as the 980 ti. This review is done with a 980 ti at 1500 mhz.

>>55299661
>I cant afford a nice gpu so i will say I dont buy from jews as an excuse

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>>55299670
stfu faggot. I am going to buy a 1070. just because I use a laughing kike, doesn't mean I'll waste money on a shit tier 199 card.

>>55299655
>No but you bunch of strokers did.
So what? Most people are stupid.
They were told to wait for real benchmarks and even today you, me and everybody else should just wait ONE more day for benchmarks. We still do not know how the RX480 performs. That is the only truth.

>>55299686
> 1070. poorfag.

>>55299695
I don't need a 1080. I barely game, I only play witcher 3 (only need to play the DLC), and overwatch.

>>55299664
But saying that the improvements in performance per core was at 50% when most of it is due to overclocking is still deceptive.

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>>55298302

>>55299655
This is the amazon thing about anonymous posting. Nobody can claim the high ground since nobody can prove who was actually posting what. It could haven been AMD fans. It could been Nvidia fans baiting and reverse trolling. But since you cannot prove otherwise everything you say is pulling shit outta your ass.

Just saying.

>>55299167
You idiot, TFLOP numbers are nonsense theoretical figures with a basic ass hell formula.

TFLOPs mean nothing when it comes to games. Absolutely nothing.

>390 drawing 450w under load

It's too hot outside to have an amd card. Is the rx 480 any better?

>>55299107
But the reason people said it was going to be great is BECAUSE it was $200.
You talk about it with the context of its price.

It's not a $500 card. It's not the 490. It's the 480, at $200, with great mid-tier performance.

It is (likely) a great card.

Because in your head is the context of its price and how it's a mid-tier card.

Like how the 560Ti was a great card. Or the 5870 was a great card, or how the 8800GTX was a great card

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>>55299710

>>55299655
I never believed it would be God tier. I assumed that, based on this move, AMD wasn't going into the high end market this time around and I went team green

>>55299724
Well considering max load is 150w and it draws 100-120w in gaming then it's fine. Temps will be around the 70-80c range and maybe a bit more in a hot environment,

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>>55299710
>>55299727

>>55299713
It this site it probably was a pajeet shill arguing with another pajeet shill both sitting in cubicles not very far from one another while their boss invoices both nvidia/amd for their shekels.

>>55299582
Theoretically Nvidia could make a 232mm2 card with about 1500 cuda cores. Such a card would be between the 980 and 980 ti.

>>55299297
>2816 versus 1920
>1070 has 68% the shaders
>1200 versus 1733
>980Ti has 69% the clock speed
>better performance per shader
People who have trouble with simple math need to go back to
>>>/v/

>>55299532
>Budget is not a problem
Then don't get a budget card or an old card. You slow?

>>55299532
>budget is not a problem
Then don't get a budget midrange card
Get a 1080.

i just built a pc a few years ago. only gpu ive ever had is a 750Ti.

Would a 480 be a noticeable upgrade?

What should I buy? I've been waiting a while now, and i finally ugraded to skylake.

>>55299815
yes buy it

>>55299815
Wait for benchmarks tomorrow then you will know.
Also it greatly depends on what you play. I mostly play DoD:S so all this gpus wars are just funny distractions to me.

>>55299815
The 480 would definitely be a huge upgrade, even if the worst-case nvidia shill chink/polack benchmarks are true.
That said, wait for the benchmarks.

>>55299824
>>55299839
i mostly have been playing overwatch but ill get doom if a 480 will run it on ultra. Im tired of gaming on medium.

also upgrading to a 144hz monitor so if i can hit my flexible $500 budget for both, i'll be beyond pleased

>>55299815
if you're gonna upgrade, get a 970 not an AMD turd.

>>55299865
Well then tomorrow you will definitely know as Doom will surely be prominent on the benchmarks.

>>55299878
>>55299845
The way I see it, I want to spend close to $500. do i keep my 60hz monitor and get a pricey gpu or do what seems most logical to me, and get a 144hz benq meme monitor and a 480

>>55299702
Why? Increased clock speeds are a part of improving arch. AMD isn't seeing anything even remotely close to a 50% increase in core clocks on 14nm.

Why do you people bother with the ''leak'' bullshit

Wait until release and you'll be able to talk as much shit as you want, without sounding like a retard by default

>>55299905
Make that decision when the 480 benchmarks come out.
But you should be leaning towards 144Hz/480.
Make sure the monitor has displayport

Also consider a freesync monitor

H-hi

/v/ here

I dont know shit about tech and im kinda poor

Is the 480 good if i just want to play at 1080p/60fps? I don't want anything fancy cause im kinda illiterate

Please respond without memes

Thanks

>>55299905
>144hz benq meme monitor
You answer yourself there.
144hz is a meme on par with audiophile shit.

>>55299934
probably but you will know for sure tomorrow when the benchmarks release.

>>55299927
I've looked into it, dp and hdmi are both acceptable, but what I have now is DVI only, so I will probably go with 144hz/DP, just because there's a few monitors that fit my budget.

Thanks anons, you've impressed me with your concise, clear replies. Your help is much appreciated.

I'll wait for benchmarks.

>/g/ today.
>Nvidiots shitting up the board
>Nvidiots in full damage control

>>55297947
Oh that looks pretty gut and the performance is confirmed, I can finally upgrade my gpu to something at 980 levels. Thanks OP for posting this.

>>55299713

I've seen them do the same thing on regular forums with user accts. AMD fags hyped up their own shit then turned around and blamed NVidiots when they got blown out.

They must have some kind of hivemind.

>>55299723
tflop scales when you compare between cards in the same generation. Normally you would expect a card from an older generation to perform worse than a newer card with the same tflop count. That's why its fucked up that the 480 isn't faster than the 390x.

>>55299914

GCN also scales a whole lot better with clockspeeds than any Nvidia architecture.

>>55299934
Yes it's very good for 1080p.
We think.

The memes and shitposting are prevalent because the card, and reliable tests are not out yet.
Tomorrow. Ask again tomorrow.

>>55299960
Missed one

>>55300003
>implications
>the post
We dont know anything and you should not be using unconfirmed rumours and attention-seeking "leaks" as your source.

Chill the fuck out and wait for tomorrow's reviews.

>>55299955
>>55300007

Thanks based anons, i will be back tomorrow then

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>>55299914
Ramping up clock speeds up to improve performance is usually not a good tactic to improve performance since it leads to the significant upping of power and heat dispersion. It'll eventually in the end lead to something like pic related.

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God Im hyped for tomorrows review

Im pissed 3rd party 1070 non founder has no price yet in my country, dunno if USA has pricing of the said cards

I hope RX 480 has better scores on GTA V over the 970 since Im planning to play Mafia 3 in a few months

>>55299914
You know nothing about how arch design and clock timing works.

Explain how Intel's chips have been LOSING fmax potential over the past five years despite being constantly updated and shrunk. Please.

Should I just get a 980 Ti Gigabyte Xtreme gaming edition for 460 USD? Or wait for the 1070 to restock? I don't want to spend more than 500.

Mind you I only have a 550W Gold (but shitty corsair) PSU.

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>>55299960
>>55300023
One more. I think I missed a couple of others but gave up at this point.

>>55299260
palit version of 1070 costs freaking 590 here
PALIT dammit

Wait for Nvidia to shoot themselves in the foot

>>55300089
wait for restock

is 430 watts enough for the RX 480 and an i5 6600K?

>>55300109
Nvidia is not the company that shoots itself in the foot all the time
It would be AMD but they have no feet left

>>55298350
>which the 980ti does not have native support for
Why would you say this?

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dx12/supported-gpus

>>55300120
http://powersupplycalculator.net/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4q944f/rx480_v_gtx980_v_390x_ref_batman_arkham_night/

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>>55300089
Just get the TI at that price lucky bastard.

It has more shaders and bigger memory bus than the 1070

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>>55300140
>>55300089
Forgot to tell you u need 600 W sadly

>>55299622
wait, that's 60 fps in tw3 WITH hairworks?

damn, i'd get this card just to say fuck you to gimpworks

>>55299762
1070 1920:120:64
980 2048:128:64
50% faster in benchmarks

1920 x 1.467 = 2816
1070 is faster than the 980 ti.

>>55298032
Why the fuck would anyone with a 970/390 want to upgrade to a 200$ card? The fuck?

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AMD is finished.

>>55297947
and now everybody sees why RX 480 is priced at 200$

no, it's not because AMD is going to aggresively recapture some big part of the market as fanboys told themselves, AMD just can't afford to price it any higher without it becoming an unattractive choice.

>>55297947
>On par with 970
>Probably better dx12 capabilities
>200 bucks
>Bad

>>55300197
>fake

>>55300005
If Polaris were gaining enough scaling from its increase in clock speed over hawaii to equal the gain in clock speeds Pascal made over Maxwell the 480 would about as fast the R9 Fury.

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>Have 270X
>Wanted to upgrade to RX 480
>It's only 970 level and not enough to be worth upgrading to for all that money

>>55300197
looks cheap

>>55300196
Because it's not marketed as an upgrade to those cards shit for brains. It's marketed as an upgrade for those buying new on a tight budget and those upgrading from a really old card who just want to play games @ 1080p @ 60 FPS.

Nobody 'sidegrades' unless they are stupid.

>>55300056
Good thing that didn't happen then.

>>55300074
probably because you can't compare cpus clocked at 4.6 that already have finfets to a gpu clocked at 1.2

>>55300197
Paper launch to try to stop the RX480. Too fucking late. It will be more successful to cut the 1070 price but then they will have not enough supply. They really dun goofed this time around by delaying the mid-range. Rumors were it was going to launch on January 2017. Even if they bring the card forward I doubt it will be ready by October in enough quantity to do any harm.

>>55300284
>@ 1080p @ 45-50 FPS
fixed

>>55300197
>release imminent
>soon
>1-2 months at best
>limited stock
>premium for founders edition
kek

>>55300251
4000 cores>2000cores
only what? 16% clock increase between polaris and hawaii?
their per core perf. is significantly higher

>>55300304
Must be sad to be poor.

>>55300303
>Holy shit guys! This bozo can see into the future!

>>55300312
Must be even sadder to be a cuck sucking Jew cock

>>55300269
What? If you have a 270x you are a poorfag. You dont get to choose. You cant afford a 1070 or 1080 or else you wouldnt have a 270x. So yeah, in your particular case with your particular budget the 480 is a good upgrade.

Is it as good as a 980? titan? 1080? Who cares? You cant afford those anyways.

>>55300312
You should know. I am not the one shilling for shekels.

>>55297947
R A D E O N
N
O
E
D
A
R

Everyone knows that the only fucking people buying AMD is Pajeets and poo in the loo people. fucking subhumans. poorfags need not apply.

>>55300127
It's was shoved in with software. The newest gen NVidia/AMD and last gen AMD cards have baked in support

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>>55300359
nvidia cucks on suicide watch

Is anybody here waiting for Vega 10.

Polaris might not be able to compete in some ways with Project Scorpio (a console), even if overclocked. One of the principles of PC gaming is superior performance to consoles so why buy a card inferior to a console that will be out in one and half years.

Also, not buying Nvidia since Nvidia gimps their cards and consoles currently contain AMD GPUs in them.

>leaks yesterday are suddenly more reliable than leaks 1 week ago
Shills gtfo. It only turned the 29th right at this moment in some asian country.

Is it still worth getting if i have 660TI?

>>55300431
>non-sequitering this hard

im laffin

you fell for the AMD meme

>>55300195
1920/2816 = .68
1200(980Ti boost)/1733(1070 boost) = .692
The 1070 has about 67% of the 980Tis hardware when we factor TMU and ROPs.
It also has a 45% higher (reference stock to reference stock) clock rate.

From comparing the three separate reviews I just read it performs about 15% better than a 980Ti on average.
.67 + .45 = 1.11, which is not far off from the observed 1.15x performance increase.
Ergo, "shader to shader" or whatever was originally compared, Pascal is not significantly faster than Maxwell

>>55300074
You're such a complete moron that your oxygen use would be better spent on amoeba reproducing.

>>55300549
Lel I replied to my own post.
>>55300297
You're poster I was calling a moron. You have no idea how any of this works.

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>>55300460
You do know Scorpio is a variant of Vega?

Go AMD GO!!!!!!!!

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>it's gonna be better than 980 it's over Nvidia is finished
>it was never meant to compete with 980, we never actually believed it
>a 200$ card with same performance as the 970 is pretty good

Yeah, two years too late.
A 960 is also on par with a 680 nowadays.

>trusting poos in loos to make a functional gpu

>>55300580
The GPU is supposedly a variant of Vega 10 but Scorpio is actually an upgraded version of the Xbox One.

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>>55300610
>>55300592
>I can't win arguments so I must shitpost

>>55300309
>their per core perf. is significantly higher
This is what I've been complaining about if Polaris actually manages to equal the 390x it will still only be about a 22% relative increase in performance per core compared to the 50% the gtx 1070 is seeing over the gtx 980 due to the insane clocks. AMD is underpricing it and its very good because of that but the technology of actual card isn't that great in comparison.

>>55299476
>poorfags
>970
i think you don't know what a poorfag is

>>55300622
I could've, If you actually had any valid arguments to begin with.

>>55300624
And I'd rather have a GPU with lots of low clocked cores than one with a few high clocked cores because once a certain point is reached, the performance increase in increasing the clocks is minimal compared to the increase in heat and power requirements that comes from increasing said clocks.

How does one get disappointed over their own delusions? AMD specifically claimed to target VR-Ready spec which is according to them R9 390 and GTX 970. If you go and believe bullshit with zero substance from noWCTech and reddit then the responsibility of your unreasonable expectations is only yours, because according to unverifiable benches the card performs just as expected, and that's with the shitty stock cooler.

>>55300624
>50% guy again.
K. let's compare the 980 to the 1070, instead of your original 980Ti comparison.
>1920/2048 = .9375
>120/128 = .9375
>64 > 64
>1733 / 1253 = 1.38x
>1070 scores about 45% higher than 980
>has .9375+.9375+1.0/3= 96% the hardware
>38% higher clock rate
Ergo, the 1070 is 11% faster, hardware-to-hardware, than a 980, nowhere close to 50%.


>>55300639
Plugging your ears and yelling "nah nah I cant hear you" is not a valid rebuttal, child.

>>55300693
Both sides do it. Just ignore them all.

>>55300104
too bad no one had time to save the 100s of rx480 is gonna be awesome, poor nvidia shill threads. (glad there will be different crap tomorrow)

>>55297947
1300MHz GTX 970, way faster than stock one.

>>55300701
actually my numbers were wrong, it's a 39% higher clock rate to an average ~42% increase in performance. This brings the average hardware-to-hardware performance increase down to 8%.

>>55300580
>it will go to 5 at the end of the year

damn those annalists eat their bread for nothing

>>55300686
The heat and power req is lower than maxwell.

>>55298014
AMD = Autists Must Die.

>>55300622

Source.

>>55300733
you're fucking retard kid, don't reply to me again.

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>mrw I still use a Radeon HD 5570 and the RX 480 won't disappoint me no matter what.

>/g/ nonstop shills the 480 for a month
>turns out to be shit
Haha I don't know why I expected this to be any different. For some reason this board is so opposed to an nvidia or intel monopoly they support amd no matter what even though the company doesn't deserve it. The market needs competition but amd isn't the one to provide it. I'm guessing zen will be shut as well. Muh Haswell performance, muh Keller.

>>55300761
>WAHHH WAHHH MOMMY HE PROVED ME WRONG AND NVIDIA DIDNT PAY ME FOR THOSE POSTS WAHHHH

Go be a nigger somewhere else.

>>55297947
>On par with 970
No, it's on par with one of the fastest 970s in 3 gameworks titles.
This means it's on par with reference 980s in most games, exactly where they said it would be an exactly where we want it.

They're also a shit reviewer, they fucked up the charts and show a 380X beating a 970 multiple times, something that has never happened.

Lads,

Is a discounted 980Ti Strix the best bang for buck?

Or spend 25% more for a 1070?

>>55300762
this
6670 here

>>55298152
The Radeon Pro Duo is the most powerful card literally ever made.

>>55300781
>people still confusing amp omega with amp extreme

>>55300776
you didn't prove anything you don't even understand percentage ratios.

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>Under $250
>Performance equal to stock 980s
>Immature drivers, reference card so no heavy overclock
>Uses less than 150w of power
>8gb of VRAM
>In stock in large numbers

And AMD wins
GG Nvidia

>>55300741
That is due to a die shrink but if Nvidia isn't careful about ramping up clockspeeds in the future without making the correct architectural changes, we could end up with another Fermi-tier housefire

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rekt

>>55300762
I have a 5850 HD and I agree with you. For its price, it's still gonna be pretty damn worth it.

>>55300946
What happened to 200$?
Also 2 years old

>>55300974
Australian prices.

Also pre-release drivers and no OC

>>55300824
After factoring the number differences it is no longer a ratio but a direct comparison. If you yourself are going to make simplistic assumptions with no other sources, dont try and shit all over someone who is actually doing the work to validate the claims.
You're just a loser with a small brain by comparison.
Anyways
1.733Ghz = 1.253Ghz * 1.385
The 1070 has 96% of the 980's hardware. Math already shown.

I used Guru3d, Tom's Hardware, PCWorld and Tech PowerUp's 1070 reviews to create an average performance result of both the 980 and 1070 (for games they all tested). What I saw was that the 1070 typically, in almost all games, has a 40-45% higher FPS than the 980.
And then by simple, normal, reasonable deduction I figured the simple, easy, right in your face math out and showed everyone.

Google is a click away and I'm not wasting my time making infographs when I've already showed the numbers.

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WCCFTech

>RX480 IS AMAZING
>RX480 IS MEDIOCRE

Actual benches come out

>WE CALLED IT

>>55298162
>bought 970 in the first place
>Fell for memes, sold it, probably at a loss
>waited a whole fucking YEAR
>just so he can buy a similiar performance card for a little less than he sold the 970 for

You're god damn retarded.

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>>55300974
this is probably Canada dollars, they are worthless

>>55297947
This is before it gets OC coolers

>>55297947
AMD bankrupt by 2020 confirmed.

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So the performance is like a 390/390x in games but slightly better? Ok

>>55301885
It's like an R9 390X that uses less than 150w while costing $199-239.

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>>55301935

>>55301935
And? the performance already existed,if you got both cards for free you couldn't tell which one was in your case in game to begin with outside of case temps and power consumption doesn't matter with one card.

>>55301980
So is everybody on /g/ who isn't an nvidia shill.

Just look at this thread to see people talking about how a $199, <150w card matching an overclocked 970 in gameworks games is somehow a disappointment.

>>55301991
>outside of case temps and power consumption
Ahh, i see. Now that AMD are beating nvidia in terms of efficiency it suddenly doesn't matter any more.
>hurr if you got it for free
Except people actually pay the money they work to get for these things, and it costing $249 for an 8gb with a backplate is what's known as a good thing.

>>55302026
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=r9+390x&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1

>>55302083
Cool.
All bids, meaning they'll sell for $300.

Not factor in the cost going from a 400w to a 650w power supply, and the extra case fan needed to keep it cool.
Now factor in the power consumption over the next 2 years in a region with high power costs, like australia.

$199, <150w, 390X performance with a full 3 year warranty.

>>55302123
You win the argument I'm out.

>>55297947
>IT'S NOT SHIT REEEEEEEEE
Wow AMD competing with 2 year old 3.5 gb meme shit