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RX 480 is AWFUL

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New benchmarks coming in show the RX 480 can't even beat a GTX 970:

http://imgur.com/a/3iTkS

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4pzcl1/xfx_rx480_unboxing_benchmarks/

See pic, the Fire Strike score is significantly lower than a 970.

This thing is just plain garbage, you can even buy some 970s for $200 right now.
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>>55281387
The score actually puts it between a 380 and a 380x, truly awful.
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>>55281387
I fucking called it.

Never trust pajeet the con man.
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>>55281387
Can you do it in English?
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>>55281387
>hurr

The graphics score on the left is all that matters and that beats a 970. The overall score is dragged down by the shitty CPU. My 6700K scores 15K in the physics test and that one doesn't even manage 10K.

Nice try, shill.
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>>55281467
Wow, damage control already? Face it pajeet, Nvidia has won yet another generation of GPUs.
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>>55281467
Umm the 970 gets a 15730, while this gets 12467
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>>55281473
If you're going to start throwing around accusations we're going to need more information, in English, because unlike you, i'm not a foreigner.
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It also runs at 88 degrees and uses 147W, what a disaster.
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>>55281476
>Umm the 970 gets a 15730

Keep dreaming. A 970 at 1600MHz gets 14.5K. At stock under 12K. Need to shill better than this if you're going to get paid for the day my friend.
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>>55281491
And a 1080 draws over 300W as well if we're gonna talk about maximum power draw.
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>>55281491
>he doesn't know reference cards are always housefires by both companies
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>>55281495
Literally right here: http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+970/review

GTX 970 15730

RX 480 12467

This is looking really bad for AMD, I almost feel sorry for them at this point.
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>>55281491
>MAX and a overclock
Are you positively retarded?
That's like saying my Honda redlines every time because I do it once every month.
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WORSE THAN A 960! DON'T BUY FROM AMD!
BUY A 1070 WHILE PRICES ARE LOW!
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>>55281467
This

The score for the GPU alone puts it in 980 territory, overall score gets bogged down by a haswell Xeon that can't outperform a 3770K.

>>55281491
Wow, peaked at 80 degrees which for a reference card is good. My 780 Windforce gets that high under load as well. Also AMD said the tdp is 150W so 147 is spot on
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>>55281515
>Literally right here

That's 3DMark 11, you dumb autist, not Fire Strike. A completely different benchmark.
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>>55281545
>The score for the GPU alone puts it in 980 territory

It's not even close to the 980, it barely even competes with a 970
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>>55281491
Holy fucking Jesus' balls, a 150W TDP chip maxes out at 147W ?

Call the press
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>>55281545
It gets to 88 degrees.

Even my blower 970 never got above 83
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>>55281491
So what's the power use in average gaming?
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>>55281577
>Even my blower 970 never got above 83

Yeah, because that's the point where they start thermal throttling. AMD allow higher temperatures before thermal throttling kicks in. How about actually looking at your clock speeds once in a while?
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>>55281579
135w
the new turbo is aggressive
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>>55281387
Fuck back to >>>/v/ gaymer manchild
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>>55281579
Scroll down to the 6th image and just go down, somewhere around 110W like it was said.

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-wattman-overclocking/


Also, do remember that GPU-z sensor readouts are highly inaccurate and you should really wait for power consumption tests at the rails with proper tools not a fucking bugged Microsoft API
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>>55281593
Video cards aren't technology?
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>Last 2 weeks on /g/
>rx 480 everywhere
>AMD shills shilling like crazy
>"970 killer, nvidia housefire, legimpmeme.jpg, 480 exceeding 980ti in benchmarks, beating fury, too good for gtx 980, 970 in the trash"
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>>55281596
>>55281592
>>55281579
No games were actually tested, just synthetic crap.
Can't you wait 2 days?
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>>55281607
Seriously I legitimately feel bad for AMD and the fanboys now. I mean I knew it wasn't going to be everything they said it was, but this is just amazingly bad.
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>>55281610
>games
Fuck off back to >>>/v/
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>>55281614

Hell, I became very optimistic about the rx 480. 200$ for 980-level performance? Shieeet, guess I'll just buy a second-hand gtx 980 on warranty
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>>55281614
Not going to lie, it's going to hurt a little on the inside if this is how the card actually performs. I was really hoping to be able to get a new video card, but it's looking like I'm going to be buying a used R9 290.

Come on, AMD. You had one job. Why is your last viable series of cards 3 generations old? Why is the 7970 still one of your best cards?
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>>55281387
LOOL only 10101 score my 960 can score mroe ahAHAHAHAHAH AMD IS FUCKING DEAD
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>>55281605
And you judge a video card based on "game performance"?
Wow shows your actual interest full well
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>>55281631
LOOOOOL THIS I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW BIG OF A FLOP IT IS AMD SHOULD FUCKING KILL ITSELF ALREADY AHAHAHAHAH
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thanks for the heads up, fudzilla
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>>55281387
My GTX 970 gets 12145

The RX 480 gets 12467

So this is barely better than my 970, WTF?
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>>55281387
My 970 scores 14k!
14000!

AMD IS FUCKING DEAD INT HE WATTER, STILLBOURNE AND FINISHED AND BANKRUPT!
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>>55281634

This is a 200$ gpu. It's not designed for rendering or anything, it's supposed to be a budget gaming thingy and was supposed to beat the 970/980.

Curry dindu Kadouri lied I guess.
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>>55281658
It does seem to beat the 970, but just barely.

It's basically the exact same as a 970 or 390
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>>55281387
>guy from XFX posts
>redditors all accept him as their new god
>"you're so cool m8, love you!"

disgusting.
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KILL YOURSELVES YOU SHIT INDIAN COMPANY FUCKNIG DIE ALREDY!
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>>55281634
Please explain what you use video cards for
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>>55281442
its in gobbely goop because its got an underpowered Athlon cpu.
>>55281387
>rx 480 $200-230
>gtx 970 ~$400

hmmm I wonder why it might not be as strong.
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FOOOOOOKIN TOLD YA, M80S!
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>>55281690
fitting
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So we got a bunch of benches going from Nano to under the 970 performance.

Who to believe.
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>>55281686
You can literally pick up a brand new 970 for $250 right now
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>>55281686
>$400
>970
this trolling attempt was unsuccessful, try again?
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>>55281495
>>55281495
So, it's closest to score with a 390X and a 1418MHz overclocked 970.

But man, these things are all over the place.
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>>55281700
Wait two days and see.
I wouldn't believe the really inflated ones, clearly not true. Expected it to be better than 970, not beating 980. That's the top of what I can believe at the given price.

If it really does turn out to be worse than 970, that would break my heart, but it's not like I was going to buy it anyway. I'll be stuck with my R9 380 for a bit longer.
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>>55281387
>GTX 970
>Graphics Score 11 739
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5057209


POO
IN
LOO
RAJSH
45 RUPEES
IN
YOUR
ACCOUNT
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AMD looks good in benchmarks but in real life(benchmarks ARE NOT real life) they're usually 2-2.5 times slower than the Nvidia equivalent, AMD is like those concept cars that can do anything but are just cheap shit with a coat of paint on them.
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>>55281750
They don't even look good in benchmarks
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Uhm this seems utterly fake.. Just wait for official benching.. also seen it beat the 980 in firestrike.. so we dont know shit yet..
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>>55281745
It looks like it's about equal to a 970

Pretty disappointing when you can already get a 970 for $250 right now
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standardized poo-in-the-loo names
rajas/koduris shill amd
pajeets shill nvidia
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Can I be retarded too? Here's a 980ti with a 13000 GFX score
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6311035
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>>55281700
OP benchmark is above 970 performance
OP benchmark is done with release candidate drivers that were pressed on disk weeks ago and are not the actual release drivers.
Not a single leak was done with correct drivers because even the press only just got the correct drivers.
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>>55281750
facts usually sound good but not from your ass(not facts)
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>>55281788
>still slower than Nvidia

AHAAHAHA FUCKING AMDKEKS
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Fan is running under 20% and he prolly fucked the gpu in the afterburner setup or what ever hed using.. and that CPU is shit
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And here's a 960 with a 16000 gfx score

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5970292


This benchmark is retarded.
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>>55281809
CPU is not shit, it's actually a good xeon
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>>55281815
>xeon
>good

Pick one
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>>55281778
Not where I live, the cheapest I can find is $389. See, this is why I buy AMD, I got R9 380 for around $270.

Will be a while until I see R9 480 here as well, so it doesn't matter. I reckon it will be around $300, and I don't suppose I'll see price cut for 970 soon, seeing as all shops are probably waiting to sell what they have in stock currently.
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>>55281834
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
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why is everyone in this thread confuse firestrike with 3dmark11?
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This is with a 5960X with a 4.4GHz OC
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>>55281859
>5960X with a 4.4GHz OC
Why don't they test with CPUs people actually use and at clockspeeds people actually use?

Like a i5 at 4.2 or something.
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>>55281834
My 6 year old 1090T blackedition wipes as with that xeon
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>>55281859
Something is very wrong with their benchmark, my 970 gets 12145
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>>55281882
why? it will scale down with CPU and will be relatively the same to others
at least this way it excludes any kind of bottleneck for better understanding how gpu works
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>>55281888
That's overall score, not GFX score.
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>>55281545
The Xeon 1231v3 has identical performance to an i7 4770
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>>55281894
OK that makes sense
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>>55281859
So would a 480 with that CPU score around 11k?
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>>55281907
You'll see in two days.
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>>55281907
It should put the 480 slightly better than a 970
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>>55281387

it has higher graphics score you dimwitted tool.
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>>55281859
>Fury X slower than 980Ti at stock clocks
>meanwhile equal to 980Ti in games at stock clocks but slightly faster at 4k
This benchmark is full retard.
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>>55281935
Synthetics were never a good indicator of gaming performance, as seen here AMD does worse in ONE(1) synthetic but better in gaming.
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Is my GPU better than the 480?
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>>55281387
>ran at 20% fanspeed

What the fuck?
Did he intentionally throttle the card?
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>>55281977
No, that's actually how AMD sets it up by default
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Guess this confirms it uses 150W

Man, people, just wait for the fucking reviews in 2 days, these scores are all over the place.
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>>55281967
It's almost exactly the same
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>GPU load 100%
>65W

Uhh yeah, about that GPU-z sensor accuracy?
It's kinda shitty.
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>>55281686
Literally 330aud right now from MSY.
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>>55281649
Your 970 has a factory OC. The synthetic score difference between a 390, 970, 390x, and 980 is very small and easily muddled by differing core clocks.

A 980 with a high OC only does 14000, a ref RX 480 will get in the mid 13500 range with OC. Partner cards will likely hit 13000 out of the box and manually OC into the 14000 score range. Get some perspective about FS scores.
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>>55282016
Buttshilled AMDcuuck
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>>55281714
buy a 970 then dipshit, its more expensive, older, and slower.
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>>55282007
>>55281997
Holy, I can't wait to undervolt this thing.
AMD has put a large voltage range again with these chips for binning purposes.
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It's painfully simply:

If the 250$ 480 performs slightly better than the 970 -- it's a no brainer since the 970 is about 250-300 right now.

If it's worse, than fuck it, you may as well get a gtx 980.

Trying times for AMD -- will they succeed in the mid-range or fail miserably?
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>>55282033
It's not looking good.

If they could hit 980 performance, it would be worth it, but at this point it's basically just another 970.
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>>55281467
Yeah now try it in a game with the shitty driver overhead from amd.

And don't waste my time with a 6700k.
It's a budget card, pair it with a budget cpu like athlon 880k, i3 6100, or i5 6400.
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What's the point of these leak threads? AMD shills will latch on to high scores to make the thing look good while Nvidiots will latch on to low scores to make AMD look bad.
There's fucking over 25% variance between leak scores over the last few DAYS
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>>55282028
>slower
Clearly not, judging by OP's info.
>more expensive and older
Well yes, you'd think 2 extra years would give AMD some time to make a card that's better than a 970 somehow, but apparently not.
still want to try again?

>>55282052
It's /g/, people love bickering over this shit, when they don't realize that good competitions from both manufacturers leads to better and cheaper products for all consumers.
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>>55282052
Let me tell you why there's such a large variance between scores.

>multiple CPUs
>different clocks for both CPU and GPU
>different drivers
>fanspeeds set to low
>throttling
>different benchmarks

Anything else?
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>>55282041
>just another 970

This would be shit. It means anybody with a 390/970 will have ZERO incentive to buy this thing. Now people like me who are on the fence and waitfagging for something decent around the 300-400 euro mark (980 in my country is about 400 euro and the 480 will be 300) may as well go look for some bargains and get a 980 since the 1070 is like 550 eurokeks.

The 480 can succeed only if it's at least slightly better than the 970/390
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>>55282073
it will be slower you just don't know how to judge what you're looking at.
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>>55282041
except 8gb of vram vs 3.5

but yeah this isn't for people who already own a 970 or equivalent amd card.
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>>55282086
>don't know how to judge
>will be slower
>will be
So you're agreeing that the info shown agrees with, not you, and I know how to judge what I'm looking at? Make up your mind.
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>>55282033
>If it's worse, than fuck it, you may as well get a gtx 980.

The 980 is and will continue to be $300 even used. If the 480 ends up 10% slower in the worst case its still $100 cheaper.
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based nvidia
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>>55282073
>>55282052
>MOMMY MOMMY! EVERYONE IS BULLYING AMD, STOP IT.

haha, so pathetic.

Real competition exists when there are no excuses. The RX 480 didn't perform so it deserves the utmost ridicule.
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So I looked up the average results for a GTX 970 with the exact same CPU as in OP.

The average is significantly higher than the 480.

This is looking very bad if it can't even beat a 970.
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>>55282130
What's the point of your post? Looks like you're taking sides, which is stupid. Go ahead and judge how the 480 is when it actually releases. Make memes about shit performance in the mean time, true or not. If this turns out to be real then I'll laugh too.
anyway here's your (You), you slut
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You guys are all aware the RX 480 was made to compete with the 960 right?
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so

if i want to play No Man's Sky with all those pretty colours and galaxies and exploran space n shiet...

what do i get now?
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>>55281387
>awful
>more than 2x the performance of what I have
>same price
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>>55282176
My thoughts were it was an upgraded 380 desu
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>>55282176
>Made to compete with 960
>Beats 970
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As the owner of a R9 380 this makes me happy. Slightly less buyers remorse now.
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>>55282206
What do you have right now?

The 480 is still a good card if you're building a new machine, but if you have anything decent it's a pretty bad upgrade.
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>>55282238
>he wants to know what i have now
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NVIDIA will win this

DO NOT BUT the rx 480, you'll regret it.

Wait for the 1060 if you're on a budget. NVIDIA is the way to go: GOYWORKS, better FPS, cooler and quieter.
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>>55282226
>doesn't even beat 970

ftfy
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>>55282251
OK get it

Actually at that res you could even get a 380 and be fine
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>>55282135
Unconfirmed benchmarks and rumours are worth shit. AMD hasnt even officially released driver support for the card.
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>>55282288
thank you, friend
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AMD damage control tutorial:
>one week ago
>"RX 480 IS A BEAST, KOREAN BENCHMARKS SHOW 100 FPS IN OVERWATCH, 61C ON 1600MHZ OC, IT GETS CLOSE TO THE 980TI"
>few days ago
>"w-w-well it reached 87c in crossfire and the fans weren't ready and the drivers..."
>yesterday
>"FUCKING NVIDIA SHILL WITH HIS FAKE BENCHMARKS"
>today
>"Hey, guys, the rx 480 is a 200$ card which was always supposed to compete with the 960 and become the new mid-range champion just like the 380x"

DFW Kadouri peddliong CF 480 as 1080 killer
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>>55282274
And it's only 2 times the price.
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>>55282313
lol they keep moving the goalposts
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>>55282326

I've been following these threads for the last two weeks and I see this steady shilling.

Some anons suggest these are the nvidia shills who talk all this mad ish about rx 480 beating the 980 in order to make AMD consumers appear as tinfoilers, but this theory itself is full of tinfoil.

Ebin vidya cards always making a rucus.
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>>55282355
>Some anons suggest these are the nvidia shills who talk all this mad ish about rx 480 beating the 980 in order to make AMD consumers appear as tinfoilers

That's actually an interesting theory, it does make them look like a bunch of idiots.
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>>55282316
I don't think that 1060 will be 590€ in Europe.
The difference between 8GB RX480 and 4GB GTX970 is fucking 10€.
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Koduri Koduri give me the formuli
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>>55282401

And the 8gb are absolutely meaningless for a card that is designed to handle 1080p and won't deliver much performance and 4k
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People have been overreacting all month with all these stupid benchmarks. It's only 2 more days now. However, IF the card doesn't perform at least on par with a 390x, it will be a failure in my book. Especially with the news that the reference cards can only OC about 75-100mhz.
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as someone who doesn't care for nvidia vs amd.
I was hoping this would be the next 8800gt (gamechanger) and that prices would drop.
Fuck amd and their Pajeet engineering, this would be good card if it was released with same price when 970 and 980 came out
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>>55282401
Even a 480 4GB to 970 4GB is just $50 difference

If the 970 goes down to $200 it will be a better buy in every way.
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>>55282486
>8gb vs 3.5gb
>chooses the 3.5
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>>55282501
>didn't even read the post
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http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geforce-gtx-107-and-1080-dvi-pixel-clock-at-330-mhz-issues.html

just yesterday everyone was complaining how bad 480 is because it doesn't have dvi

makes you wonder what else is yet hidden
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>not even final drivers
>Still benchmarks higher than 970
>Nvidiots believe the opposite because they don't want their 3.5GB to be obsolete
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>>55281685
>Protip
GPU is not only for gaymen. Not that I expect a /v/ babby to understand
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>>55282555
what else would you use budget card for?
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>>55282512
>unable to boot into windows and the welcome screen is replaced by flashing colors
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>>55281421
I have said on here for weeks its between a 390 & 390x but uses less power. I got called every name possible by people saying 2 of them will outdo a 1080 easy..... hahaha fuck them now
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>>55281515
>>55281548

fucking rekt. nvidiot calm down and wait until nda drops but i know it's not easy to just stay and shut it
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>>55281658
>This is a 200$ gpu. It's not designed for rendering or anything

You clearly know nothing about rendering OR video cards.

>>55281387
>you can even buy some 970s for $200 right now
To bad i can only buy it for $350+
If the 480 sells for anything close to $200, it's a great deal.
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>>55281714
>4GB
c'mon m8, please
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>>55282634
>rendering
>not buying nvidia quadro

You are a nigger
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>>55282553
It benchmarks lower than the 970
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>>55282555
What programs are you using your GPU for?
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>>55282580
It's actually even worse than that. It's basically equal to a 390 and uses the same power as a 970.
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>>55282710
4chan and jap pedo porn mostly.
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>>55282634
pcpartpicker

video cards, 970

There's like 5 different ones for $250
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>>55281387
>>55281495

Nothing to see here everything as expected.
>>55282703
Learn to read
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>>55281467
This
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>>55282719
Thank you anon I just shot coffee out of my nostrils. Oh dear oh dear this will not go down well
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>>55282732
Go look it up yourself. Go to the Fire Strike benchmarks site, search for the same Xeon CPU as OP with a GTX 970. The average score is even higher than a 480, it's very bad.
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>>55282729
State side prices are amazing.
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So pajeet ultimately did more harm with his shilling than good. I called it from the very beginning that this thing is never ever and under no circumstances will ever compete with a 980 or hell a 980ti. It's direkt competitor will be the 970 and 1060.

I say you delusional AMDrone must suffer for this. You deserve every ridicule in this thread.
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Doing benchmarks with a DX11 software
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>>55282806
But graphics score puts it right next to a 980 and 390x :d
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>>55282809
>usng fake firestrike benchmarks to say how its better than a 980
>real ones come out, & the benchmark test programme isnt worth shit.
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LOWER THAN 970

AMD PAJEETS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>55282729
>telling people to buy a 3.5GB soon to be gimped GPU for $50 more than the competition

The 480 will perform on par with a 390x for $200. Buying a 970 is stupid.
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>>55281882
They try to remove bottlenecks.

I think its a stupid way of testing though.
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>>55282841
Are you blind? Read the OP. AMD GOT BTFO!!!!
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>>55282822
No it puts it lower than a 970
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ITT:

Damage control and shills.
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>>55282743
physics and combined score are meaningless. graphics score is what matters.
Not to mention OP was done with an old prerelease driver.
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>>55282856
Yeah, a 970 overclocked to 1460MHz.
Durr.
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>>55282841
It's about the same as a 970 for $200. Still a decent deal, but if the 970 price drops another $50 it will be the exact same as the 480.
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GUY THIS ISN'T WORKING, WE NEED TO SHILL HARDER!!
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>>55282856
it doesn't no matter how often you post it.
GTX 970 graphics score is below 12000
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>>55281491
>100% load of core, IMC and caches
>peaks at 147W

It's over Nvidia is finished, 100W average gaming confirmed
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>>55282878
This, tbqhff
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>>55282880

No it's not, see >>55282135

Look up the scores yourself, there is a huge database of them, the 970 is beating the 480 sadly
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>>55282880
The test is utterly useless, there are 980Ti's scoring only 13000 in GFX bench
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>>55282853
Yes, disregard the benchmarks that were shown not too long ago that put the card between 980 and Fury level because it doesn't fit your bias. Hey retard! Official benchmarks aren't released until Wednesday.

The card has 5.8 TFlops of performance. There's no way it isn't on par with a 390x.
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>>55281607
New to /g/? They do this all the time, bulldozer, fiji... "it's going to be amazing!" after launch fail, they will say it will be fixed with drivers (they do the same copy paste all the time)
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>>55281387
Welcome to AMD, goy
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>>55282908
>There's no way it isn't on par with a 390x

You're right, it's on par with a 970
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AMD not even once
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>>55282919
Which is on par with a 980.
Glad we got that outta the way.
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>>55281834
The Xeon E3-1231 is identical to an i7, minus the iGPU, turdmongler.
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>>55282743
>>55282899
>>55282901
>cherrypicking overclocked 970
>comparing to prerelease driver stock 480
stock 970 actually has lower scores
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3651386
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>>55282924
you tell em goy!
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>>55282926
>i7
>Good

Pickeldiclke uno
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>>55282926
>3 gen old architecture
>at much lower clocks
Yeah, it's identical to a i7 all right.
A 5 year old one.
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>>55282927
Bruh look it up yourself

Go to their website, select the same Xeon CPU and GTX 970

The average score is far higher than the 480 with the exact same CPU, it's not even a contest
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>>55282871
So one leak and now you're certain the card is only on par with a 970? OK. 2 more days and we'll know for sure. Again though, unless AMD went backwards in performance per transistor, which doesn't make any sense, the card should be equal to a 390x at least.
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>>55282927
And AMD fanboys didnt seem to have that problem when the 1080s temps were first mentioned.
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>>55282936
Is this the same /g/ that says "My Sandy Bridge i7 is still viable!"
"Five years and still barely noticeable improvement!"

Your doublethink is intense.
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>>55282419
tell that to the people watching the 970 going in the 3.5-4 Gb territory.
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>>55281387
Nvidia shills in full damage control mode I see. The rx480 must be even better than benchmarks have shown. Can't wait for the rx490 to bankrupt nvidia!
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>>55282947
>the card should be equal to a 390x

Well sadly it's not. Maybe it is a power delivery problem? The 480 can only use so much power with only one 6 pin.
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>>55282929
Should definitely say nvidia jewforce. Or nvidia goyforce.
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>>55282945
average score is an average of factory OC and custom OC models. If you want stock scores you have to look at the lowest scores

480 in OP is comfortably beating a stock 970. 480 benchmarks will be even higher in Thursday with the final drivers.
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>>55282962
> Well sadly it's not
Wow you sound so sure of yourself
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>>55282878
>pajeet calling others shills
Kek
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>>55282878
Erry tiem.
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>>55282973
The 970 you can buy for $250, with a nice quiet open air cooler already beats the $200 480. Not sure it gets more clear than that.
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>>55282972
make it happen
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>>55282973
>drivers are going to push performance by at least 50%, letting it easily beat a 980ti and 1070
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Whos a good manufacturer for the 1070? Amd blew it time to fibally switch
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>>55282989
And you'll get a 480 AIB model that will trash its ass for $250 and use much less power in 2 weeks and won't choke itself when a shit game decides it needs more memory.
So?
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>>55282989
The rumor that it's gonna cost 200 bucks needs to die. This card will cost 200 bucks just as much the 1070 costs 370 and the 1080 costs 500.
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>>55282989
Here it is >300€ with bottleneck after 3.5gb. That's not worth over a 480 which will be slightly better.
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Reminder the 970 came out two years ago. That's how far behind AMD is.
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Yes we're all confused, this thing is performing worse than a 970
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>>55282899
Nvidiots confirmed for be to stupid to read the thread. Average score includes oc's cards...
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>>55283025
Yeah if it costs anything more than $200 it's going to be the biggest fail of AMDs history, literally the 3 year old 970 will be a better buy
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>>55283001
Not 50%, but should be somewhere around 25% average.
Hawaii increased its performance to near 30% over the years.
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>>55283025
There are plenty of cards in stock at major retailers and there's no "FE" bullshit, so yes, the 4GB card will be $200 on launch. Stay mad though.
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>>55283009
150 watt is not much less power. You are ultimately paying for the same performance just from a different manufatorer and more vram. No idea why you wouldn't simply buy a 390 and be done with it.
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>>55283050
That didn't seem to matter when the 3 year old 390X was shitting on the 980

But yeah, muh power consumption.
Which suddenly also doesn't matter.
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>>55283050
>Not the 3.5 year old card
Buying gimped hardware must also be a cuckold pastime
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>>55283053
It won't kiddo and I just wanna spare you the disappointment when you realize that you can't get any 480 for less than 250. The 8gb will probably cost around 300.
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>>55283063
The 970 actually uses even less power, it's 145W
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>>55283063
>150 watt is not much less power
150W max.
That's like saying your 970 uses 220W because it spikes to 220W

Learn a thing about GPU power draw.n
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Same performance as 970

Same power usage as 970

Same price as 970

Comes out 3 years later than the 970

What the fuck is AMD thinking?
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>>55283072
>has to buy shitty pajeet hardware because he's poor
>calling others cucked
Kek
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>>55282973
I've had some abominable benchmark results when I:
-heavily underclocked both gpu and cpu for minimum power usage
-had other software running in parallel to generate maximum heat
-had forgotten to switch on the fans.

If you compare with such results and boast about having better ones, that's sad man. Average is very close to non overclocked
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https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S55244183#p55244611

Called it.
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>>55283081
You can go on newegg, search RX 480, filter the price to $100-$200, and you'll find a Sapphire 4GB RX 480 that will be available to purchase in 2 days.
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>>55283128
They'll increase the prices when ti releases retard
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>>55283148
Yeah, and risk pissing everyone off.
Vendors have already confirmed the 480 won't have supply issues like 1070/80.
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>>55283148
Sure thing buddy. Whatever lets you sleep at night.
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>>55283148
they won't because they have full warehouses of the stuff.
25x as many in storage as Nvidia had GTX 1080
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All those leaks before didn't matter but suddenly this one really matters to Nvidiafags.

Pretty cute.
Let's see what happens in 2 days.
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>>55283040
>nvidiatards are so retarded they confuse gtx480 and rx480
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>All this mad over a $200 doller card not beating the 1080
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>>55283172
>All this mad over a $200 doller card not beating the 970

Fixed
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I was really rooting for amd this time, giving nvidia a bit of heat and forcing progress. Seeing the amd people here (not gonna call them names) makes me want amd to fail just for the laugh
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>>55283171
AMD fags are now in full retreat.
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YOU AMD DRONES ARE FUCKING CRAZY

Not so long ago you were saying the 480 would beat the 980. Now you're saying the 480 was designed to compete with 960/380. ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO TELL US THIS IS A GOOD THING?

Nvidia just showcased two powerful gpus. Regardless of how overpriced and maybe even faulty their shit is, it's still better than the previous generation. 1070 may be just a lousy 10% better than the 980 but it IS fucking 10% better, end of story.

Meanwhile AMD pulls out a fucking 200$ budget card that's barely able to compete with a 3-fucking-year-old 970 and they have the cheek, the bareface effrontery to call it good.

What the fuck are these curry niggers thinking? Nobody with a 390/970 will buy this, others will look for used or on-sale 980s.

Fucking AMD, queens of disappointment.
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>>55283148
You increase prices when supply is low and demand is high, basically confirming you a sale at increased margins.
Polaris doesn't have supply issues, so there's no reason for stores to hike prices UNLESS even this huge inventory (C7 stepping, the GPU has started mass production at least 2 months ago) AMD amassed sells out
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show me DX12 benchmarks if you're so great
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>trusting leddit
I'll wait for real non-rune scores to be posted.
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>>55283204
>using wangblows 10: the NSA strikes back
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>>55282313
Nah, they just want everyone to hear the hype and preorder etc, then when all the disappointing benchmarks flow, they will have everyone go past the 30 return window with promises of new drivers... (and when drivers come out 2 weeks later and dont do squat, maybe a "that just fixes issues with game x, it's the next ones that fix performance")
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>8gb vs
>3.5gb
Choosing the 3.5gb
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>>55283204
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>>55283199
Your fucking crazy to believe that 390/970 owners were the target market.
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>>55283199
AMD fans - masters of moving the goalposts

It was supposed to be equal to the 970 all along, right guys?
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>>55283187
Actually its more. the 8gb is over $230
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>>55283224
>waiting 3 years for a GPU with same performance but more vram
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>>55283199
Your missing the point buddy the 480 is made for 1080p gaming for $200 its a steal, 1070/1080 is just overkill for 90% of people
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>>55281495
390X stock - 12547 gfx score
970 1418MHz - 12015 gfx score


But this is weird, the 970 scores are all over the fucking place, from 12k to 14k gfx score with a 100MHz clock difference


Yeah, no way I'm taking this benchmark at face value.
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LMAO ALL THESE NVIDIA SHILLS NOW PRASING THE 970 3.5 MEME CARD
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>>55283253
>over
at
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>>55283224
Your probably one of those fags that would choose a 2500k vs anything modern
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>>55283279
Memory overclocking can pull up that 2k score difference, surprisingly.

tl;dr you need a heavily overclocked 970(close to a 980 and 390x) to compete with a 480
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>>55283095
Don't let the movie Paycheck fool you, it takes a long time to reverse engineer something.
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>>55283199
Don't forget the time where they actually tried to tell you that's it's gonna be similar in performance to a 1070 once it's OC'd.
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>>55283095
they have literally no money to spend on improving GPUs, not to mention they make CPUs as well.
Haven't noticed how they have been rehashing the same architecture with minor changes over how many years is it now?
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>>55283329
If it is actually possible for the card to hit 1600mhz, it should be close to a 1070. Once we have non-reference 480s available, we shall see.
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>>55283329
Quit shoving your multicultural failed leftist ideology down others throats, please.
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Will this still be a good alternative as a poorfag with a gtx 660 and a 1080p 60hz screen?
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>>55282950
No retard, of course not everyone thinks a fucking 5 year old architecture is viable. /g/ isn't one big fat autistic retard with defined opinions, its a massive group of fat autistic retards who have varying opinions.
For example, I'm on an 8320 which is the same age as Sandy Bridge, and I think this is too fucking slow for my needs today.
I will upgrade as soon as the fucking pound recovers. Fucking Farage.
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>>55283279
Here are the actual averages straight from the Fire Strike site

Crunch the numbers, for the 970 with the same Xeon CPU as OP:

Average Score: 10900

That's a full 800 points better than the 480
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>>55283367
rx480 mate made for that res dont listen to the shills
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>>55283329

I am fucking pissed of at this shit.

You try to start a decent topic on /g/ and you get is two-three faggots screaming INSTALL GENTOO before it disappears.

You put a benchmark of 480 and the amd shills come out with all sorts of ludicrous theories. Wouldn't it be easier and more reasonable to say the rx 480 will be a decent budge gpu than spout all this gibberish?
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>>55283379
>970 years of drivers
>480 no drivers
Are you stupid?
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>>55283329
kek, makes you laugh

What do they think it's going to hit 100 degrees and still be stable?
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>>55283367
I'm just fucking glad it's better than a 380x/ 960. No way was I going to buy a meme/3.5 card or a 960 for the same price as a Polaris chip. I waitfagged 4 months for this card. Not super disappointed. Yet.
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>>55283025
>MSRP
>rumour
>comparing to Nvidia partner cards that aren't even on the market yet

OK, this thread has gone full retard in every possible way it could.

I'm just gonna wait until Wednesday to judge the card, but I expect it to be near a 980 in performance.
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>>55283358
Not gonna happen and you know that just as much as me. AMD is not some samaritan who just wants to give people good GPU's for free. If they could charge more for for the card, they would. They just can't, because there is no way it could ever compete with a card that is twice as expensive.
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>>55283402
>I expect it to be near a 980 in performance

Prepare to be disappointed
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>>55283394
It's GCN. The magic driver meme isn't going anywhere.
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>>55283379
So the same card essentially, with more ram for less? Not exactly legendary performance, but for $200ish, it's not horrible.
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>>55283427
Yeah it's not bad at all, just nothing revolutionary.

The problem is if the 970 ever drops another $50, then it will actually be the better deal.
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>>55283403
Which is why the reference models can't overclock for shit (~1350mhz). Non-reference card will be more expensive because they will have better coolers and PCBs.
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Observe how Nvidiots are jumping at this benchmark but denied the 10 different leaks before this one?

I'll see your asses in 2 days, this will be fun.
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>>55283441
it won't be, I still can't bring myself to buy nvidia after my 770 died death of brave in recent games
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>>55283403
I'm thinking that for $200 you get the cheapest parts and manufacturing possible. I'm super dissatisfied with the stock cooler, imagine if they used a 390 or 970 cooler on the reference model. Corners must be cut somewhere to get such a low cost. Still plan on buying a 480 non ref model.
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>>55283447
>Which is why the reference models can't overclock for shit (~1350mhz).
The OC is small, only 100MHz but the 3D gain in performance is 14%, so pretty high IPC at work there.
Hopefully AIB models will be able to push up to 25% once the power limit is taken care of.
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>>55283459
Well it will be. Even at $250 the 970 is arguably a better deal because it has better performance than the 480.
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>>55283469
I wonder how much the 3rd party cards are going to cost. If they're anything above $200, this thing is going to be DOA.
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>>55283475
Nvidia will gimp the 970 like the did the 700 series
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>>55283475
Very soon 380x will have same performance as 970.
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>>55283475
I just can't force myself to buy a 3.5 after watching vidya of games using more than that.
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>>55283475
How much do you get paid per post?
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>>55283495
If you look at actual tests, the 3.5 makes essentially zero difference. As you can see the 970 easily beats the 4gb 480.
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>>55283486
check how much sapphire 380 is now add 3-5% = real price

one thing I'm very surprised how I guess that 1080 will be 850-950, I didn't want to believe nvidia that greedy
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>>55283379
>Here are the actual averages straight from the Fire Strike site
Actual averages of heavily OCd 970s?
Why are you acting stupid? You got GFX scores of the relevant cards at different clockspeeds right there.
There's a world of difference between a 1100MHz/7200MHz 970 and a 1500/9000MHz 970
A 30% fucking difference, the difference between a 970 and 980
When the 480 AIB cards come out in a week or two, its overclocks probably won't matter to you, I assume?
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>>55283505
I've watched way too many games use more than 3.5 on other cards to buy a 970. Going 480/8gb would be more relevant in the future than a 3+ year old card I imagine.
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>>55282020
>oh shit, he beat me
>I know, I'll call him a cuck! Haha too bad buddy, better luck next time
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>>55283538
VRAM used means almost nothing, because it's used as a cache.

See: http://www.techspot.com/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/

"In spite of exceeding the 2GB capacity of the GTX 960 and R9 380 2GB cards however both cards delivered identical performance as their 4GB variants."

Even going from 2GB to 4GB makes almost no difference.
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>>55283538
>more relevant in the future
Which would get upgraded first? A 3 year old card or the one officially out in 2-3 days?

The fact you're trying to use 'future proofing' here shows how retarded you are.
>>
Notice how this benchmark is a crock of shit.
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>>55283594
>synthetics

That's why I don't even bother
>>
I've /waited/ for so long just to get brutally disappointed by Pajeet.

Tormented I shall rest eternally, for this chaotic show of delusions has brought me nothing but suffering and disgust.
There's nothing left for me here.
My soul rots inside of me, and I feel my lifeblood being drained by the minute.

Pajeet, you have let me down once again, and now thou shalt feel my vengeance.

t. disappointed AyyMDrone.
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>>55283583
Shitvidia cards get gimped more and more every year they are out. It's a fact
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>>55283615
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>>55283575
It actually made a difference in 3 of the games. I don't know, maybe the drivers won't let is exceed the memory cap, and then start to render the scene differently? Similar to the 1080 vs 2x480 demonstration?
>>55283583
Your words, not mine. I have no GPU. Should I buy a 3+ year old design, or a modern design?
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>>55283329
Don't forget when they tried to tell us two of them in crossfire would outperform a 1080. In all two games that support CF.
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>>55283594
At least it's not bad as saying GPU-z can measure power usage of a card.

Honestly synthetics are terrible, you got a fucking 980Ti being faster by 10% than a Fury X in firestrike but being slower in actual games.
Synthetics do nothing but run every component of the card at 100%, which is stupidly unrealistic as saying a 16 core CPU will do good in games because its total throughput is almost three times of a quad core.
Even fucking actual compute loads don't load everything 100%, real world software doesn't work like that, real world software isn't fucking self replicating endless loops that just bloat up like a fucking fork bomb until every part of the IC is loaded, there's too much serial shit in software for that.

Modern software is shit, kill it with fire, and so are languages, but those aren't modern, those are fucking 30 year old bandaids.
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>>55283594
Explain to me what's going on here.
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>>55283668
I don't speak mexican, but I think I'm on a watch list of some kind now.
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>>55283675
Maybe if they open up teh firestrike source code I could tell you.
But right now I have no clue, maybe one card was throttling but it's pretty unlikely if it's a AIB card.
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>>55283652
>maybe the drivers won't let is exceed the memory cap, and then start to render the scene differently

No it literally doesn't make any difference.

The same thing happens with system RAM, you can easily exceed your system RAM capacity with no impact on performance because it's used as a cache, just swapped in and out.
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>>55283698
Woah buddy im just pointing out in 2 or more games the 4gb version did 20-30% better.
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>>55283659
Top Kek

Now that we know it's basically just a 970, that means dual 480s are about 30% slower than a 1080
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Great benchmark you got there.

I'll just wait for Witcher 3 because that's the only game I plan on playing in the next year.
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>>55283724
1. DX12
2. DX12

Do some homework, what other AMD card performs better than a 1080 when paired together in DX12/Ashes?
(The answer is a 390/390X)
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>>55283738
Hmm that's interesting, so you're saying like typical AMD they used bias software to try to make their card look better than it actually is?

I truly feel bad for the fanboys who bought into the bullshit.
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>>55283738
You're retarded, learn a thing or two about GPUs, AMD isn't magically fucking faster at DX12 than Nvidia, they're faster because they have stronger hardware than Nvidia, most notably in texture and shader throughput and bandwidth.
The 480 doesn't have either massive shader or texture throughput nor bandwidth like the Fury/390X, the 480 is literally the most Nvidia-ish AMD card in recent memory, small bus, bigger caches, fast memory, less CUs, etc.
And don't bring up Async, that's barely 10% performance at best.
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>>55283692
It's portuguese. It means something like "Teenagers Orgy"
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>>55283755
>better than it actually is
The benchmark was dx12 ashes. If you don't understand the significance of this you should stop commenting on graphics cards.
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>>55283738
I believe the 1080 did better in other parts of ashes of the singularity. Obviously AMD didnt show those though.
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>>55281997
>that fan speed
Yeesh. Why can't AMD put decent coolers on their cards?
>inb4 b...but nobody uses reference!
That's the point. If they're not going to sell the damn cooler why can't they put a decent one on their review cards? Or do like Nvidia does and sell it for a premium? Customs are all open, so why not make a premium reference blower and actually make your card look good?
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>>55283777
Yeah because the hardware was at 99%, and was rendering the snow incorrectly.
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>480 is snake oil
Fucking called it. Fuck /g/ and their amd shilling. Muh ashes benchmarks, Muh crossfire. Who wants to bet that zen will be trash as well?
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>>55283792
It won't be trash,it will either be 2x the price of what is currently shilled, or it will be full of bugs. Or both.
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nvidia shills working hard I see.
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>>55281997
Holy shit people still play that game?
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>>55282135
how
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>>55283830
480 was literally the most shilled card in recent memory, maybe even more than the 970. /g/ was fucking obnoxious with the hype train for this card.
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>>55283859
>how
Read the fucking thread, there's overclocked cards in the average and massively skew the results.
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>>55283864
>/g/ hurt me
>now I must shill
K E K

Fanboys and their identity crisis.
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>make a 390 v2
>uses half the power
>for $250

LOLOLOL AMDRONES REKT AGAIN MUH 1080 OBLITERATES YOUR SHIT CARD!!!!11
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>>55283734
>300MHz core/200MHz memory OC
>only 2.5% faster

Lol
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>>55283866
Well, my 970 is also overclocked to 1300
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>>55283779
Look up the fan speeds of 1080 foundry edition
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>3D mark Firestrike

Is this the SuperPi x87 edition of GPU benches?
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>>55283873
Anons right though, last week the 480 was being compared to a 980ti and more, now all of a sudden its a typical $200 budget card again.
You fanboys keep moving the goalposts.
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>>55283911
More like a 980 when over clocked. Like the benchmark results that were shilled last week showed.
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>>55283001
Sauce?
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>480 scores the same as a OCd 970.
So basically near a 980?
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>>55283953
It's a fucking synthetic with large variance, I wouldn't trust it if it scored near a 1070 at fucking times.

Wait for actual workloads, not huehuheuhe pls gibbe $20 so you can test a forkbomb
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>>55283911
Its almost clear by now that its right around 390x-980 range on stock according to a 300 sample average. With OC limit averaging around 1350Mhz, this is roughly another 10-15% boost in performance.

We'll see things more clearly when the GPU hits in 2 days.
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>>55283952
That ayyymd presentation with 2x480's vs a 1080.
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>>55283995
Oh lmao
So basically a lie
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I wonder how much the new Geometry processor and new scheduler will help relieve the driver overhead in DX11
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>>55283991
So basically wringing its neck to get up to near 980s maybe.
The life of these cards will be short then.
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>>55283876
No one's thinks it's "bad" for the price, the issue is its no where near the performance people were expecting despite being a budget card. Part of it is delusional fan boys, part of it being amd over hyping the card.
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>>55284007
Is showed the 2x480s were at something like 50%+ and rendering the scene accurately, while the 1080 was at 99%+ and not rendering the snow and other details as the developers intended.
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>>55284017
Not one fucking bit.
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>>55284032
Aren't you confident.
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>>55284026
As if anyone that has a 970/80 doesn't do the exact same thing to get as close to a ti as possible.
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>>55284040
AMD dx11 drivers sucking infected cocks is not a hardware issue.
>>
report threads like these, its not even good trolling

just same fucking retards spamming every couple minutes
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>>55284054
Hardware offloading certain slow software functions isn't exactly something new.
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>>55283895
Well you can of the 480 too you know?
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>>55284029
No one I know is hyped for a fucking gpu. It's a neat card which isn't as hot and sucking power as the 390x if oc'd with comparable performance for less.
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Speaking of overclocking, the 480 gained 14% performance from a 100MHz OC at 1380MHz, which indicated some fantastic scaling.
If it can actually pull up to 1600MHz with aftermarket PCBs, it's gonna be one hell of a monster, though I personally doubt it'll go over 1520MHz
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>>55284154
Expect to oc it to 1500 with air cooling
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>>55284154
>can only OC up to 1500MHZ
>Nvidia can OC to 2.1MHZ

Can this shit company do anything fucking right? Lol
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>>55284149
Well clearly you haven't been on /g/, /v/ or youtube in some time. The hype train for this card was embarrassing. So many people saying they were going to blindly pre-order a reference card with no 3rd party benchmarks, people have been saying for weeks that this will save amd and destroy nvidia. The fact that it's performance is merely "neat" isn't good enough, it was supposed to be the chosen one and was brazenly overhyped.
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>>55284197
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>>55284199
It was meming imo.
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>>55281387
let's see

450$ CAD for Gtx 970

300$ CAD for RX 480

Same performance

I wonder what i'll get
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>>55284278
>CAD
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>>55284292
At least they have healthcare and money to pay off their student loan, dumb frogposter.
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>>55284292
Yes CAD

I needed to specify since canadian currency is garbage atm
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>>55284278

There are aftermarket OC'd 970s for $250 right now. Try harder
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>>55284302
yeah no debts after studies is cool i guess
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>choice between 8gb and 3.5gb
>Nvidiacucks will pay more for the 3.5gb
>And try to defend it
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>>55284314
>250$
i'm not in USA fagget
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>>55284333
Nvidia Premium featurs like CUDA, PhysX, Shadowplay, professional driver, DSR.. etc
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>>55284341
Ok poorfag. Enjoy that shitty toaster when it comes out at a higer price than you think you will be paying.
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>>55284302
But I do, too. Not everyone on here is an Amerifat
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It already has been confirmed that Polaris flagship RX480 will provide performance between 980 and 980ti while sustaining its performance under 150W power draw. All of that for 199$ (8GB version) and thousands of products stocked during release day.
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>>55284383
I was actually thinking about buying this one

https://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00NJ9BJ8G/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1466379588&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+970

what think
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>>55284364
>professional driver
More like professional gimp
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>>55284364
>Unnecessary Proprietary bullshit
Yeah I'll pass 3.5/10 argument, bro.
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>>55284404
this one or the MSI gaymen "4"G is gud
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>>55284400
Just let me add that it can sustain its performance while holding under 70°C (67°C to be precise) temperature while overclocked to 1600MHz on stock cooler compared to 90°C of stock GTX 1080.
>>
J-j-j-just wait for HBM2! You'll see! Fucking nvidiots...
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>>55284408
Kek
And didn't nvidia release some messed up drivers that resulted in not being able to boot and display errors and some shit?
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>>55281621
What the fuck do you think people are buying these gpus for you inbred genius?
>>
Console fag here.
Why would I buy this if the new xbox next year has more TFlops
max kek, PCucks rekt within a year AGAIN!
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>>55284497
Ebin b8 m8. Go back to /v/.
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>>55284497
New console confirmed to not increase fps from x1
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>>55284497
yes im sure the xbox will outperform my 1080gtx and i7-4790k.
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>>55281999
it's a 960
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>>55281498
>>
Could be please get a Containment board for GPU related "discussions"?
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THERE IS AREASON WHY TEHRE IS NO NDA LIFTING UNTIL THE CARD RELEASES

EVEN NVIDIA LIFTED THERE NDA FROM YOUTUBE BEFORE RELEASING
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>>55284680
Does it bollocks, My whole system only draws 400-450w and thats with a 1080 in there.
Now who could be right me who owns one and knows or you who is making up stories.
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>>55284760
wow you are retarded anon
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>>55284652
Oc'd?
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>>55284497
>thinking the Scorpio is directly competing with PC
It's literally just Microsofts version of the steam machine.
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>>55281607
This shit happens before EVERY-SINGLE-FUCKING-AMD-PRODUCT. I am so fucking sick of it.

And while advertising is against the 4chan rules, we have these dumbfucks shill these unannounced and shit products all day long, every day, all year long.

I mean if it would be "hey, here is new AMD whatever, it does this", just like other tech products, that's just a discussion, a heads-up.

But this?
These faggots should be banned one-by-one, for fuck's sake. Biggest fucking shitposters on the board, almost on par with tripfags.
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>>55282313
> but muh 50000000000 stocked cards bro!

This was like 2 days ago?
LOL

And let's say I do want a shit GPU.
WHY the FUCK would I not buy the 960 or 970 instead?

They have such a longer driver support period, gameworks, physx and shit. Why the FUCK would I go with AMD?
Because I should feel bad for a multi-billion multi-national megacorporation?
Oh wow!
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>>55283330
>Haven't noticed how they have been rehashing the same architecture with minor changes over how many years is it now?
I think the 7xxx series was the last change, and even those brought only the GCN architecture that flopped kinda. (I mean, they say (lol) we will see the advantages when DX12 becomes mainstream... yeah.)
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>>55283403
I actually think amd HAS to practically give cards away (and should have started much earlier) to increase their relevance and gain a bit of leverage on stuff like gameworks. They need to get devs to prefer their cards and they need to do it quickly. Otherwise they will seriously go down hard.
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>>55283517
There's also underclocked cards there, you know?
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>>55283618
Saying "it's a fact" doesn't make it a fact. Truth is, nvidia cards don't improve as much through driver updates as amd cards do. Reason: shitty amd drivers get optimized over time, nvidia drivers are already well optimized on release.
Also shows that amd sells better (and more expensive) hardware with worse software for a lower price. They can't win with that strategy
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>>55285256
you people are so retarded and it's only been getting worse

so retarded it hurts
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>>55283199
Why am I seeing this copypasta'd all over /g/ and /v/ today?

Literally word for word
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>>55284029
desu it looks more like nvidia fans throwing a shitfit to keep people from buying it
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>>55284652
nice bait, you can see from the previous post the GPU used in firestrike
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