ITT: snake oil

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>>55257638

>>55258731
>16ft HDMI cable
I ... have a need for that, actually.

>>55258811
So buy one for $10 on eBay. I bought a 20ft cable for around that recently and it works fine.

>>55258831
I bought a 15m HDMI cable for something like $18 and it works perfectly.

>>55258811
they sell them at best buy for like 60 dollars
when I needed a cord bad they only had these for some reason

>>55258967
This image hurts my existence

>>55258967

I hope somebody grabbed that IBM Model F.

>>55259555
why

>>55259555
You're some environmental fag?

>>55259589
The keyboards dude

Czech em'

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>>55259589

Because that stuff is getting rare.

>>55259621
That stuff has been there for so long, it probably helped to make stuff like that more rare in that area long ago.

>>55259645
>implying a RISC core NIC controller for TCP offload and buffer memory are a bad thing.
wat

>>55259697
>implying bad=redundant
I'm not even disagreeing with you, but come on.

>>55259697
Right, in fact every first item of a build is this thing.
btw, I think a dusty router does the same job better.

>>55259767
Yeah, I bet but you wire up a router to a PCI slot? How?
That's advanced shit.

>>55259697

it does nothing really

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>>55259334

>>55259808
I have an Intel NIC with an ARM core, sure is more stable then a software driver solution utilizing the CPU for TCP.
There are network benchmarks, google if you don't trust me.

>>55259841

its just synthetic benchmarks. real gaming lag is lag and it does nothing

>>55259863
>gayming
Who the fuck is talking about gayming kid.
But I'm sure it might have a difference because it's already utilizing DMA and not CPU cycles.

>>55259911
*JUSTS*

>>55259719
don't you fucking dare

>>55259369
We carry those, rocket fish a similar brand, audio quest which are the high end autismo cables for $200 for 3ft, and insignia cables which are usually a little cheaper than rocket fish and monster
Signed you're little best buy drone

>>55259806
>what are PCIexpress lanes

>>55258967
OMFG, that's a goldmine sitting in the rain.

>>55259995
Yeah, I bet but you wire up a router to a PCI-E slot? How?
That's advanced shit.

>>55260015
Maybe a few hundred bucks if cleaned up and repaired to working condition.

>>55260044
Fuck, wish I could have come up with audiophile shit to sell a few years ago when the market was mostly amateurs.

>>55260070
>when the market was mostly amateurs
it's still that way

>>55259999
You know, if they were that concerned with noise from power supplied by the PCIe bus (which does exist; it just usually doesn't matter), why wouldn't they just use an external DAC with an external supply? You get rid of way more noise that way.

>>55260070

You still can sell this shit.

Stuff like those fancy speaker spikes that are just a chunk of metal.

Audiophile 'cables' (make from cat5, put in braided sleeve)

anything with really large capacitors

chunks of metal that act as a 'filter'

audiophile ethernet cables (just make it look fancy and thick)

audiophile usb cables

Basically if it looks okay people will pay a lot of money. So you could take some nails, put them through a okay looking wood cutting board that you tossed some varnish on, and sell it as a audiophile amplifier table.

You could probably 3d print some fancy cable supports to separate the cables to avoid cross talk.

>>55260028
I feel like these people are trolling everyone because I'm sure that would give them more kicks than the redundancies drowned in inefficiency/inconsistency they spend astronomical amounts on

>>55260111

Well there is noise on the PCI bus. there is noise from switching power supplies.

The thing is you're right, if you care about this you're going to use a external dac and external PSU to that dac.

I actually saw a thread on diyaudio where a guy was building a linear psu for his computer. I was just reading in awe - people still think bits sound different.

>>55260070
lol
Do you think there are professionals in this market?

>>55260145

To some extent I think a lot of folks just think it looks cool / clean.

The reason audiophile stuff exists is because most of the time it is based on real science, and it could make a difference in say scientific test equipment. Or a lot of the stuff with amps try and deal with issues that are real but unimportant.

It's like someone who is cleaning their kitchen and tries to clean it like a operating room. It doesn't make any difference in reality but it's true that there are germs on your kitchen counter.

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>>55260028
the fuck is going on here?

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>>55259719

>>55259719
(You)

>>55260207

the floor is lava

>>55259719
shut your whore mouth

>>55260205
>To some extent I think a lot of folks just think it looks cool / clean.
Honestly if those cable supports and shit were dirt cheap, I'd totally use'em. They do look cool and I do like keeping my cables somewhat tidy.

>>55260205
but they don't appear to consider gaping holes in efficiency or consistency that can be assessed at a glance before even looking at such fine details

such as those massive insulated cables, somehow it's acceptable to stop at the plug and have 20x more cable than necessary and not have all that custom niche stuff inside which isn't mass-producted have the internal electronics be discrete and similarly insulated

it's just laziness to the extreme

either that or an absolute obsession with aesthetics which can somehow change at the click of a finger as some "reliable" snake oil salesman decides adding some random thing to the case of an amp will make the sound "more dynamic"

it's like a cult

it's pseudoscience, at least one of the famous ones must be trolling

>>55260205
No. It is all bullshit. They are selling bullshit.

There is a science to OR sanitation. There is very little, if any improvement to be had from the type of snake oil shit posted in this thread.

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>>55259719
kys

>>55260187
Actually yeah, if you can afford to pass produce PCB's with components, etc.

>>55259911
>literally nothing at all to help the acoustics of the room
>entire setup is literally in the corner of the room instead of the center to create a more even pattern of sound reflection from the walls
>spends all that money on shit but doesnt have the brains to set it up properly

>>55259999
>implying rainbow sugar isnt just a euphemism for snake oil

>>55260013
This one actually hurts me the most though. Even more than audiophile USB, HDMI and Ethernet cables.

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>>55260630
Maybe it's not for audio, maybe it's a legacy compatibility hardware for pic related!

>>55260697
This is sad...

>>55260700
/thread

>>55260697
what
why

>>55257638
I feel like buying the now really cheap DDR2 ones to troll guts threads.

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Audiophiles put this op top of their CDs to make "audio and video signals more precise".

>>55260773
Fuck, I have to save the respond to a text file for next time.

Because of the good DAC in the early PS1's audiophiles like them and mod the PS1's so you can't even use them for anything else anymore.

>>55259697
>implying it means shit for gaymers when they're bottlenecked by their and others' shit internet connections

>>55260780
Is that literary paper in the shape of the CD in a CD box?

Fuck, that's like printing money.

>>55260795
>and others' shit internet connections
that just makes others an easier target

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>>55260804
Yes. Costs approx. 50 bucks.

>>55260795
There are games I have stopped playing because server communication inefficiencies and physics basically turn group activities down from 120fps to 15

there's one where people literally nerf their characters' builds by 50% just so team play doesn't lag the game to laggy stuttery shit

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>>55260792
Id ask why again but I don't want to know anymore

>>55260038
this should be a /g/ banner

>>55260820
>>55260835
>>55260858
But why?
They can just buy a better one now.

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>>55260868
They sell their $20,000 CD players and buy one of these for even more because they believe that the DAC in the first playstation is something special.

>>55260868
They are autistic. That's why.
It's cheaper to sell that to them then to create new shit.

>>55260872
Moar

>>55260895
Well it was good in a particular version and now it's not, and they can't even tell the difference.

It's not like fixing up an old car. There's no actual unique experience to be had, especially after they drown it out with modding.

>>55258967
This sucks.
That picture i mean. One could simply clean most of that and it's perfectly usable. Stuff like the keyboards and probably many monitors.

>>55260697
I can't believe people still fall for the meme that 1st gen models of the PS1 are audiophile machines.

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>>55260630

>>55260948
> perfectly usable
it's obsolete garbage anon
are you delusional?

>>55260966
>all those fucking over rated capacitors
Why? Did someone read "capacitors smooth out voltage" and decide they had to attach more capacitors to everything?

>>55258811
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=14196

Stop throwing your money away.

>>55260835
>cd player
>chink switching psu
>no shielding
>these crappy soviet MBGO paper-oil 10u 250v caps
>bypassed with SGM 2n 500v mica cap
>on 10cm wires
>tons of heaters
Why?

>>55259841
This. Swapped my primary ethernet port on my mobo with a shitty Realtek 8111G NIC for a Intel i210t controller. I've seen at least a 80 Mb/s increase in upload and download in file transfers to my NAS. CPU also doesn't work as hard, which is important because it's a Pentium J2900.

>>55260675
Is that the Internet?

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>use onboard network for both my server and my computer
>still achieve up to 980Mbit speeds on gigabit network
>people are still trying to sell the dedicated network card meme
I would like to set up a write cache though I think.

>>55260962
>>55260697

I don't really get the whole idea that cd players are anything but audiophiles being confused what digital is. They are applying the stuff that kinda sorta made sense with vinyl to CDs

Like when the PS1 launched I dunno maybe it had a really good DAC and maybe it was a kick ass deal for the price at the time, but it's 2016 it's not some unique gem, you can buy a decent diy dac and just use any old cd player that outputs spdif. (or rip your cds to wav/flac/mp3 like a normal fucking person)

For the price folks spend on modding stupid shit like that they could just buy a pretty okay DAC.

>>55259863
How can a benchmark, benchmarking throughput be synthetic?

>>55260401

With the exception of some of the stupid shit like cable stands and magic rocks, most of the audiophile stuff does have science behind it.

There is logic to stranded vs solid wire, there is logic behind tons of caps to smooth the powersupply, and if you use a scope, you will see the differences. You won't hear a difference though.

Sanitation stuff is important - in the right application, but performing OR level sanitation in your kitchen is not really making it any cleaner in reality.

It's the same shit with audio. Better caps mean smoother power, thick metal enclosures block interference, thick ass cables help. Some of this shit actually does make a difference when you're dealing with high precision stuff, it just doesn't really make any difference to the sound.


The part I find most amusing about audiophiles is they tend to be older guys (since it's kinda a expensive hobby) and your hearing gets progressively worse the older you get so.....

The other funny thing is people use these expensive ass opamps and talk down the cheaper ones, but don't realise the music they are listening to have probably gone through tons and tons of those cheap tl072 during the mix.

>>55260998
whatever that is, I'd like to mod some of my shit to look like that.

>>55261369
Uploads is pretty bad, but I suspect that's because something else in the pipeline is causing the delay.
If you have a modern 2.7GHz+ desktop CPU, then you won't notice too much of a difference. In my case, a Pentium J2900 isn't powerful enough to handle the task of getting the data from the hard drive and sending down to the NIC, which offloads much of the work back onto the CPU before sending the data on its merry way to my NAS. I actually saw a significant gain in transfer speed since much of the work is done by the Intel NIC, rather than waiting for my slow-ass processor to send the packets back and forth.

If you need a multi-port NIC for port teaming, then going PCIe is pretty much your only option if you don't have an expensive-as-balls C222/4/6 or C232/6 motherboard with its own monolithic multiport onboard NIC.

>>55260962
Why not?
Some people pay a thousand dollars for blocks of wood to hold cables off the floor.

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>>55261573

I think they are just giant ass caps with covers on them for protection most likely.

I like to do diy audio stuff since it's wayyyy cheaper than buying and I try and make stuff look 'audiophile', like I bought some thick speaker cable at a yard sale for like $5 (poor guy probably paid over a hundred or more for it) and then ordered some PET sleeve, heat shrink, and a couple fancy looking banna plugs from china and made the cables look audiophile.

One trick is you can just get lamp cord from the hardware store and that works just as good as speaker cable and it costs a fraction of the price.

If you look around on aliexpress you can find all sorts of audiophile lookin shit like fancy amplifier feet, expensive looking RCA connectors, banana plugs, etc. (just look around for the best price, sellers know audiophiles pay stupid prices and will choose the more expensive one just because)

>>55261369
Dedicated ain't using your CPU for everything, most onboard are.

That should already tell you that even without trying, that dedicated must have a higher performance margin.

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>>55259863
>real gaming

>>55260426
mass producing PCBs in this day and age means designing the board layout in Eagle (free software) and sending the design to a boardhouse in China. It's cheap, and they'll populate the board for you for a little extra.

You don't need to own any equipment other than a computer.

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> built a linear powersupply for a PC because it makes the bits sound better

And this isn't just like a one off, threads about this pop up every so often on diyaudio... I wish the mods there would stop allowing that stupidity.

>>55261815
free as in freedom or free as in free beer?

>>55259967
Nigga are you high?

>>55261845
Beer, it ain't open source

>>55261875
do you want me to starve?

>>55261843
why? what? who?
are you serious?

this is....

>>55261815

I think some of the audiophile stuff is from folks who know it's bullshit but like designing stuff with ocd level attention to detail and having no maximum price.

It's like someone asking you to build a PC for them with a 10k budget so they can play the latest games. It would be fun but a huge waste of money.

>>55261899
except you can actually do crazy stuff with a 10k PC whereas expensive audio setups have no actual performance increase from decently priced ones

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>>55258967
I have been working at the airport and my job consists of moving stuff, mostly heavy furniture. Last week my boss asked me to clean several rooms full of old tech (PC, keyboards, mouses, fax, printers,crt, etc). A lot of IBM, I still was able to keep two IBM Model M keyboards (the clicky version and the non clicky version - both from 1992). I could have kept all of them and then sell them but that would have been so much work. I must have cleaned easily almost 200 keyboards.

>>55261845

Eagle is closed source, the free trial has a bunch of stupid restrictions like board size and maximum number of layers ( I think it's 2 or maybe 4)

The two main opensource EDA tools are:

KiCad, backed by cern and lots of active development.

gEDA is old but stable (apparently some NASA folks use it and have made boards that went into space) main thing with gEDA is it follows the unix philosophy and has everything broken into separate tools and you use a Makefile workflow.

KiCad is easier to learn and has a much larger active community.

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>>55259334

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>>55261917

Sorta, if you're maxing out your monitor's resolution and refresh rate there isn't much left.

It's a waste of money really.

>>55260032
Sold to whom? You'd be better off pulling the metal for scrap.

>>55261891

Google: Linear Power supply + diyaudio

And diyaudio is usually pretty good about not allowing audiophool nonsense.

>>55262011
That retro stuff goes around for a few buck, I picked up a 8088 with monitor, printer, keyboard for 13€ the other day, in perfect order.
I'll probably sell it for the same price in the future after I had fun with it for a while.

>>55261997
I would want at least 4 state of the art graphics cards, around 3TB of PCI-E SSD's , those things alone take up over half the budget.

>>55262101
dual CPU motherboard, custom water cooling

>>55262139

do games even work with dual cpu?

>>55262155
Games which can only utilize 4 threads obviously won't become much faster on a system with 8 or 16 cores

>>55262155 Games cant use more then ~8 threads, server cpus have lower clocks and are not overclockable.

>>55259911
>Someone spent a lot of money on that
If they've got money to blow, room treatment + Klipschorns and taking the time to set those speakers up will be nearly unbeatable. Magnepan is pretty decent on a budget and isn't a snake oil speaker.

>>55262182

do any games actually take advantage of 8 or 16 cores and the HT?

Always a delight when you boot up a server with dual sockets and linux sees 32 cpus.

>>55262155
>>55262182
dual cpu with 4 gfx cards probably going to have a higher average frame time but lower heist frame time, also depends how you configure the scheduler:
>cpu1 core1
>cpu2 core1
>cpu1 core2

is better then
>cpu1 core1
>cpu1 core2
>cpu1 core3

>>55262216

speakers are basically the only thing that aren't a meme in the audio world.

>>55262155
>>55262182
>>55262200
>>55262222
Multiple graphics cards on dual sockets bottlenecks it less then just one CPU. See >>55262224 as the right idea.

There are also workstation grade dual socket board, what allow workstation grade CPU's and overclocking.

Does anyone remember that tech commercial for a computer part that magically filtered computer opera ions to a 2nd stream so that gaming could be improved?

I honestly can't remember much of it, remember seeing in in mid 2000's

>>55260028
Coconut audio customer

>>55260895
Literally the one on the dreamcast and the first xbox are better

>>55262384
Shut up, shut up, shut up goi!
I'm planning on selling them after the PS1 for CD player boom is over.

>>55257638
>not ddr4
wew wewey wew

>>55259599
>environmental fag
Nope, it's just appreciation for old and usable tech.

>>55258731
it gots mansters inside , it make little ol' me scurrrr

>>55262452
>usable
What use?
That's literary obsolete garbage.

>>55260410
you plug that usb up yo ass

>>55260630
my old tv had a lamp like that

>>55260780
What?

>>55262491
>lamp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_tube

>>55262504
A piece of paper that you put on the CD in your CD player

>>55260013
>small hard candy
Is that thing a secret CP storage unit?

>>55262517
and they pay for it?
dang...

>>55262525
small jawbreaker

>>55261598
I'm not sure if the upload speed is purely due to (samba) configuration or the fact they are 5400rpm drives. The server doesn't have USB3 natively but I am looking at buying a PCI-e mini express card to add it (which won't give me full USB3 speed but around 1.5Gbps which is more than enough for mechanical drives for backup purposes and would let me test with a small SSD or flash drive if the write speed is getting held up by the mechanical drives).

>>55262470
Keyboards of that age are perfectly usable. They even work better that shitty modern rubber dome homosexual men keyboards.
Monitors of that age are good for retrogaming.
And so, other anons can add more uses for that "garbage"

>>55262236
Some speakers. Some are terrible (pnoe, vox olympion, &c) and some are amazing (Klipschorn, Magnepan). Of those, the Olympian and pnoe will set you back a lot, a Klipschorn will be more reasonable at $6k each (compared to the others, that is reasonable), and a mini maggie will put you back about $1500 for a set.
Room treatment will work wonders for what you have, and if you can set up a DSP system for room compensation you can have a nice looking and sounding room for much lower costs. Some wall treatment and room treatment can be had in things that look like art, so you can look classy and have a nice sounding room without someone realizing the wood art on the wall and in the corner are helping.

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>>55260739
fucking saved

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>>55258967
>That Commodore 1702
>That Apple II
>That Macintosh Plus
>That everything

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>>55258967
FUUUCK
REEEEE

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>>55259719

>>55259967
>>55259719

what

exact combo I'm using now, but my thinkpad's new

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>>55257638

>>55264557
The upper one might be even a OK keyboard, but the other ones are just stupid.

>>55261930
>only saved keyboards
please tell me that's just because company policy wouldn't allow you to save the microchannel hardware it was attached to

>>55259555
>>55259567
>>55260015
>>55260948
>>55264229
That image is OC from a recent shitbox thread, the guy who posted it is salvaging pretty much everything he can get his hands on that isn't fucked beyond recognition. Most of the real good shit was safe and sound in other outbuildings too.

>>55260780
music is higher revelation than all ??cantread?? and philosophers.
(Ludwig von beethoven 1770-18??)

White Mirror La musica
With the use of the White mirror La Musica you experience a previously unreached sound purity of your HiFi or Home Cinema system. Through intenisve research and know-how based on White Mirror No.1, The Audio- and videosignal was able to be significantly improved

The White-Mirror LaMusica helps making use of the entire audiophile potential of your audiocomponents. Voices and instruments are represented more precise and clearly.

>>55261845
use KiCAD, it's fine

>>55257638
>not purifying your machine's power with the essence of Lake Minnetonka
shiggy

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>>55257638

>>55260948
>You now realize it's actually inferior to what we have now

>>55260820
I'm actually very afraid to ask what the pic is showing.

What is the pic showing?

>>55264717
Inside of a PS1

>>55264702
everything is inferior to something else

>>55264691
Why do people say SSD's are snake oil?
They are Sold State Drives, like their name says, they work with solid state chips.

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>>55257638

>>55264743
Because it guarantees replies and thus attention from gullible people like you

>>55264729
woah man that's deep

but can we go deeper?

inferiority is a spook, it's not real, everything is what you make of it, that's why it's okay for me to jerk off in public

WOOOOOOOOOO

>>55264758
exactly
now that you've realized there is basically no reason to do anything and your existence is pointless, why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>55264743
Woah a whole .5 second faster boot up totally worth the extra 500 bucks. Snake oil.

>>55264757
Oh, I was thinking he was actually serious.

>>55264775
They rarely are, but are always taken seriously by droves of mindless /v/edditors, be mindful of the bait, don't be one of them my friend.

>>55264773
You really need to upgrade your PC if it's just giving you a 0.5Sec boost.

>>55264786
>>55264757
But that does not make any sense, why the fuck would they want a simple reply? That ain't even trolling, that's stupid.

>>55264772
i have the will to power

fabulous power

and now i'm going to jail for public masturbation

man fuck the system, this spook oppression is total patriarchy

>>55264799
>shitposting does not make any sense
>trolling does not make any sense
This whole site is built on simple pleasures and easy attention.

>>55264804
>fuck the system
dude you're living the dream now, it's not like you're handcuffed 24/7, pull it out and get to it guilt-free

what are they going to do? throw you in jail again?

>>55260207
Why the fuck is it always white guys doing this kind of weird shit? You don't see niggas doing shit like that

>>55264773
>SSDs only affect boot times!
I want this meme to die.

>>55263979
So, people are turning PS1's into CD players? For what purpose?

>>55264940
no kidding, it the silliest of memes

>>55264956
Audiophiles, they don't need a purpose.

>>55260013
>>55259999
????? why the fuck would anyone buy this
literally just use a USB or Toslink DAC and stfu

>>55265054
Yeah, one of the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

>>55258967
>IBM Model F
>Commodore 1702
>various CGA and fixed-frequency early workstation monitors

what a shame

>>55264956
Early PS1 models allegedly have a very good DAC (for their price).
Audiophiles, the idiots that they are, thought "let's buy old PS1 consoles, strip out the game stuff, add in a bunch of junk and some huge capacitors to turn this relatively cheap console with a decent DAC into a retarded abomination!"

And they succeeded. In terms of actual audio quality it is still the same as before they attacked it because it is all digital until post DAC and almost everything they do is pre DAC.

>>55260032
If that equipment was proprerly cleaned up and working and you took the time to sell it piece-meal on ebay you would be looking at several thousand dollars worth of equipment.

>>55265106
I have local ad's selling all kids of vintage hardware, never going over 30 bucks for perfect working things and sets.

>>55264940
Kill the meme

>>55265090
Funny thing is, all of them had exactly the same DAC, 16bit AKM.

only difference is that first model of PS1 had RCA out.

>>55260253
kek

>>55265127
All PS1's have "RCA" out, you just need to use the SONY video port.

>>55265138
yea, but "that ruins quality of the sound pixies"

>>55265138
the signal is the same, but RCA here refers to the connector type

>>55259697
>>55259767
>>55259806
enjoy your hardware bugs
"I think TCP offload is an acceptable trade-off in
theory. I'm actually not very interested in it personally, since _I_ don't
think the trade-offs are worth it. To me, the downsides of TCP offload are
_huge_: not only do you lose end-to-end protection and are at the mercy of
the reliability of the PCI bus rather than ECC memory (and the actual TCP
offload engine itself, which is imho likely to be less reliable still), but
you also end up losing a lot of flexibility."
-Linus Torvalds
source:http://yarchive.net/comp/ethernet_checksums.html

>>55265196
>ECC memory
Wat, my Intel NIC itself has ECC buffer but the rest of the system does not. So that comment does not even comply to my system.

>>55259978
>you're little best buy drone

Welp.
No wonder you're still working retail.

>>55265238
Someone has to do that job, lucky it's someone with brains at least.

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>>55260684
Sound/electronics/Acoustics engineer here, I think that the saddest part is that they destroy the sound big time with all this bullshit and call it fidelity

>>55262155
I have 2 cpu's so I can run lots of games at the same time
And intel Jews you out of pcie lanes on single cpu boards

>>55264773
start Photoshop or a fairly huge software-project in Visual Studio using a HD and a SSD, and tell me you don't see a difference.

>>55260044
Even if I was a delusional audiophile retard, wouldnt I trust that the coating of my 14040 Schekel cables takes care of these pesky electro magnetic interferences from the floor?

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>gutting functional PS1s to serve your audiophile-degeneracy

;_;

>>55264773
>boot off hdd
>system is slow as fuck, takes 3 seconds to open explorer
>boot off ssd
>everything opens instantly

>>55265488
>tfw I can emulate a ps1 on my phone

>>55260979
I remember this picture, but can't remember the context.

>>55265516
TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>55261364
Yes, grandpa's internet.

>>55264589
No, that's because he's a /r/mechanicalkeyboards niggerfaggot.

>>55259841
>performance
sure
>reliability
there are very few (kernel) TCP stacks, which get a lot of usage. If the CPU has bugs then all sorts of things, can break, comparatively it's much harder to find bugs in NIC controllers. The firmware or even the hardware is a lot more likely to have bugs because it simply hasn't seen as much real-world use as the linux TCP stack. And if the linux kernl *does* have a bug, then it gets patched. Meanwhile nobody installs firmware patches.
>>55261545
artificial load
say, we have a protocol that automatically applies basic compression(this is more common than you think)
Benchmark A just sends the same 100 bytes over and over, compresses extremely well, gets amazing results.
Benchmark B sends random data(impossible to compress), results show no difference between compression on or off
both are synthethic, they don't represent real world loads.

>>55260013
what this thing supposed to do?

>>55265602
hdd optimized for audio, has less losses to rotational velocidensity than regular hard disks

>>55265498
>not getting the truest pure audio experience a PS1 can deliver

why live anon?

>>55260697
I'd take this out of the snake oil category and put it into the 'fucking looks awesome' category

>>55265558
we have to give him the benefit of the doubt here before we accuse him of being a dumb /mkg/ hipster

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Actually just ran into this by accident a minute ago looking for speakers with analog inputs.

>>55265639
Free shipping doe.

>>55265651
If the profit margin is 90% then the few bucks for shipping are nothing.

>>55264897
Cameraphones are contraband

>>55265698
there is no way those cables cost $180 to make

probably more like $4-$5 max

Behold, the best worst dubious audiophile snake oil website:

http://www.coconut-audio.com/index.html

>>55265721
It's not snake oil if it's parody.
The people that believe their shit want to believe it and want to throw money away.

I don't get audiophiles' obsession with tubes, as a guitarist, I fucking adore the compression and distortions created by driven tubes, but I would never want those artifacts added to music that I'm listening to.

>>55265717
98.7% then, including transport and tax of the item.

>>55265721
HOLY SHIT, A STONE FOR $79 that magically makes your sound better

>>55265777
>$79
WHAT A BARGAIN, the guys at my local are selling their magic stones for $250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252406265890

Rekt, I can do that! I too could be a millionaire?!

>>55265734
Bingo.
Listen to the music as it was fucking recorded. If the artist wanted you to listen to it differently, they would have done those changes in the studio.

At most, an equalizer to remove artifacts from your headphones or speaks+room.

>>55265721
No, it's the best. Coconut audio used to be a satire site, pretending to sell stones and other complete fucking nonsense.
But people actually tried to buy the things. In large enough numbers that the owner 'sold out' and actually started selling the crap.
I think the large quantities of money helps heal his soul, along with the realisation that it's not the people who make these things that are retarded but the people who buy them.

Should sue people like him to be honest, for taking advantage of the mentally disabled.

Nothing personal, just it'd be funny to see audiophiles classed as mental invalids.

>>55265734
Same here. Lots of self proclaimed audiophiles are idiots

>>55265721
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unreal-Pro-32mm-SATA-cable-amazing-audiophile-detail-from-computer-harddrive-/252411001717?hash=item3ac4de3b75:g:P9oAAOSwAKxWYsnn

This is amazing!

>>55265907
Soo...
Does it bend?

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>tfw plebs with a shit taste and garbage audio systems" lash out at audiophiles.
Probably can't even afford sound pebbles.

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>>55259645
not snake oil you piece of shit

>>55267912
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm

Great cables reviewed: http://www.audiostream.com/content/audioquest-vodka-ethernet-cable-and-diamond-ethernet-cable

There used to be stickers that "improved" sound too, but the link was lost in time.

>>55264753
fuck you man thats not snake oil thats my life

>>55259999
Quads of truth

>>55261095
sounds like the best explanation out there

>>55259911

Is that PhotonicInductions living room?

>>55264897
No, you see niggers raping each other and robbing corner shops at gun point.

>>55261369
> only having one ethernet cable connected

>>55265907
>BAD. The seller promised results. I did not hear any improvement. WASTE OF MONEY

>>55268815
>opamps
>snake oil

Guys, are those cable elevators a meme or do audiofools actually buy them?

What is snake oil?

>>55265465
all that engineering and gold and platinum, so that the signal can be dumped into shit at the end of the line

>>55265325
Just got out of that hellhole (geeksquad) and am very happy I did.

>>55268857
Something that is sold for a high price to gullible people because of supposed magical qualities but is actually worthless garbage

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>>55261930
tilebros 4eva

>>55268857
>>55269017
Something that is advertised as doing something and people believe it does it but actually it does not. No matter the price.

>>55265793
Holy shit
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Unreal-Pro-32mm-SATA-cable-amazing-audiophile-detail-from-computer-harddrive-

The king of all bull shit. This should be illegal.

>>55271175
link ded

>>55271188
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Unreal-Pro-32mm-SATA-cable-amazing-audiophile-detail-from-computer-harddrive-/252411001717?nav=SEARCH

>>55257638
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f7-disk-storage-music-library-storage/hard-drives-make-difference-sound-18190/

Holy fucking shit

I sense a lot of jelly poorfags here.

>>55258831
>>55258811
I have a 50 foot HDMI cable that cost under $10 I think. Works fine. I know "science" says it should blow up and leave a smoking crater where my house once was, and yet I use my television as a monitor at will.

>>55258967
Most of that could be re-homed rather than discarded. This is why we need communism. Or capitalism. Or a lack of laziness.

>>55259645
Is that illegal in the UK?

>>55271703
WTF's that wooden/glass post thing?

>>55271743
obviously a headphone stand for the phones he's wearing...

>>55271768
Whats the point through?
It's clearly a portable setup!

>>55259911
>altar to a pagan god
ruins the acoustics

What if you emulate ps1 and play mp3s through that

>>55257638
what ? please tell me this is satire

>>55263979
the amount of effort and fine craftsmanship (because a lot of them do look really good actually) people put into this just makes me sad

>>55258731
The idea is that a higher quality cable will degrade the signal less than a lower quality cable, which is true even for a digital signal.
But being a digital signal, the cable would have to be really shitty before the computer wouldn't be able to tell a 0 from a 1.

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Does this qualify as snake oil ?
100€ decoupler

http://www.hifi-solution.com/en/decouplages-/43-aktyna-dynaris.html

>>55270309
>>55268728
/thread

>>55257638
>not using Buffered and ECC RAM for high quality audio RAM

>>55265602
It is supposed to smooth out the power and data lines into/out of the HDD.
But HDDs (and SSDs) have literally no problem with this and the digital SATA links are really robust so it doesn't do anything at all.

>>55271415
>I just made a discovery that hard drives sound different
Nothing wrong so far. Drives literally do sound different.
>I decided Windows Server 2012 sounded better than Windows 7
What?
>Guess what it does not sound as good as the old Seagate drive. I am missing the richness which the Seagate drive has.
Eeeeeeeh.
>What I am stumped on is it the brand of drive or is it the higher compression and bigger cache which is making the difference.
Are these people for real?

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>>55258967
>all those 80s and 90s computers
hello darkness my old friend

>>55264773
>thinks boot times are the justification for ssds
Kill yourself.

>>55261930
>I could have kept all of them and then sell them but that would have been so much work.
If this is true didn't you pretty much loose $20 000 on that?

>>55264799
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay.
Retards will try to find anyway to make the most stupid thing satisfactory.

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>>55261930
>bashing IBM keyboards
DELET THIS

>>55258967
I remember being a very young child and visiting a dad's friends house out in the boonies where they had a massive pile of old computers that we just smashed with hammers and rocks. Probably lots of good stuff in there, never thought about it until now.

>>55257638
Is that a capacitor bank for you ram slot?

>>55258967
Most of it has no use in the real world.

>>55268839
They probably go for a hugely inflated price.

>>55276610
Yeah, I think people know that, they are pretty old you know.

>>55260974
that actually looks like a pretty cool art project

>>55259911

>all that equipment together with a ginormous transformer in the same place

>>55276778
It's just so many people here complain about old tech being thrown out which I agree is wasteful, but is there really any other option? most people don't want old equipment taking up space in their homes and businesses have no use for ancient office PC's (servers and legacy hardware are a separate matter).

>>55260948
>perfectly usable.
For the hobbyist or scrap man maybe but certainly not to the average person or office worker.

>>55260948
>>55276931
BTW I agree that it does suck in the sense that its going to landfill, but its next to useless for the average person.

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>>55264773
>Not getting used 256GBs for around 40 USD and putting them in a RAID configuration
>Muh boot time

Nigga...
Do you even utilize your disk for anything other than booting or do you just shitpost all day?

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Hey guys, should I bottle up my jizz and sell it as "audiophile ear moisturizer" or something like that?

>>55271786
You still need to take your headphones off and rest them somewhere in an appropriate manner

>>55276911
They were thrown out years ago, nowadays they would be recycled or bought by vintage tech lovers.
It is a shame to see things that will never be made again dieing slowly in the rain.

>>55264358
>my thinkpads new
Thats even worse then, im sorry anon.

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I bought this actually

>>55277426
I have a few to share the output of my computer between headphones/audio system

>>55277426
I see no problem with those as long as the audio output device is not being asked to drive two low impedance devices such as headphones.

>>55260028
>>55260207
>>55264897
keeping the wires off the floor so they have the least interference possible due to lines below not being shielded correctly.

older homes suffer from this FAR more then newer ones, im sure we all had a pc case at some point that had audio lines to the front of the case, they were shielded like shit, and got interference from the rest of the crap inside the case.

same thing, though in a newer house, probably completely unnecessary.

>>55261917
headphones you are looking at 500$ before diminishing returns kicks in hard, it starts at around 200-300$

speakers its around 2000-5000$ (have not looked into this in almost a decade so the price may have went down) before diminishing returns kicks in.

the dac/amplifier is really the only thing you need to buy more than once, and really only if a new format your shit doesn't support hits or you are missing a connector and its the only output of your source.

beyond that, you either pay out the ass for very small improvements (the numbers i quitted would get you to 95% audio quality, that last 5% will cost you thousands if not tens of thousands)

really, with speakers all you have to make sure is the lows, mids, and highs have their own speaker and everything's not being shitted up and mudded out.

>>55259999
What's the point in the upper part's connection? Double snake oil like a SLI?

>>55279661
it's a pcie 1x connector, the board can be flipped over