>JBL LSR305 vs >Yamaha HS7 which one is the better?

>>55257357
HS7 hands down. JBL is mostly a meme company. Yamaha is the real deal.

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>>55257415
>jbl professional
>meme company
>makes the best speaker drivers known to man

k, retart

>>55257462
>shilling for JBL

Okay Pajeet.

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>>55257520
Fuck off Yamaha shill

>>55257462
>>55257536
>only furries like JBL

Sounds about right.

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>>55257587
>only furries know shit about speakers
Sounds about right. Now go listen to your shitty Logitech speaker, you fag.

>>55257462
>>55257536
Go jack off to zootopia you fucken fur fag.

>>55257357
I was facing the same dilemma except for price comparison a 308 is more comparable to an HS7. I listened to both in store and it seemed to me the clarity of details across the spectrum came through in the HS7. People say it has not enough bass but if you do some source track vs mic'd up hs7 comparisons, it's almost exactly the same. Since I may one day produce some edm/might want to go nuts listening I will probably get the sub, but for now I own the HS7s and I'm pretty damn happy with them.

HS8's

I'm guessing krk is a garbage tier meme?

>>55257771
Unfortunately
The sub is highly rated, but not the monitors

So what's recommended for electronic music production? Ideally just monitors, no sub.

>>55257873
What ever you can afford. Yamaha and Mackie work well for most audio work.

>>55257919
>>55257686
>>55257357

are these good for just listening to music?

>>55257971
They are active reference monitors made for audio production/mixing. Flat response for true representation of the instruments, etc being recorded. They'll for listening too but pricey just for that.

>>55257357
Neither, you're better of buying presonus monitors.

Are the HS8's any different from the HS7's but for the size/price?

>>55257745
If you go to guitar center you can listen to them with edm and you can see which one you like the sound of better. The price difference between the HS7s and hs8 is like 50 bucks each so it may be worth it for you to get the 8s

Also, opinions on the KRK RP10-3?

>>55257971
I'm the guy with the HS7s. Listening to rock and metal is heavenly. Everything is balanced. Listening to edm I can't help but feel a little yearning for more low end. I have a friend who claims he doesn't even feel satisfied with the 8's bass (but I think he's too used to hi-fi systems). Edm still sounds good but you're not going to feel the bass like you're used to. Then again, after a certain time you'll adapt to the sound of the speaker and it will allow you to make more balanced mixes, but for pure listening for edm you may be better off with some cheaper speakers and a sub

>>55258303
I'm more of a rock and metal guy.
Can you recommend some quality value dac for the speakers? Or is a new mobo enough?

>>55258326
dacs are not important for speakers
the amp is the most important part

>>55257622
Cheap logitech speakers are perfect for their price.

>>55258379
but these already have inbuilt amps

>>55257357

The Yamaha's are twice the price so they had better be way better.

>>55258415
what

for me they almost cost the same, are you sure you didn't misread something?

160 usd for one vs 175 usd for one

>>55258437

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00F1DEI8G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3NJGOHE30UBO4&coliid=I1R7BTVSM7YA5D

$240 for the pair of JBL LSR305s

>>55258437
>>55258448

Also I only find the Yamahas on Amazon for 300 a piece

LSR305's are pretty shit so I imagine the Yamaha is the only fair choice.

>>55258448
holy shit

if I bought them local (cheapest version) they would almost cost twice as much

and they ship here for free

what's the catch?

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I really enjoy my HS8s, also got the sub. It's great to have a set of speakers that sound as good as my DT 880s as it is now summer and hot as fuck here in the desert. Wearing headphones all day is pretty meh.

Now I just have to figure a way to stay cool while using my Vive....

>>55258394
then they are just fine, a dac wont make them sound better unless the one you have is fucked up

>>55258544

What if your DAC is a Xonar DGX

>>55258544
integrated audio can be pretty bad depending on the computer

>>55258649
If your computer is that fucking awful, then you need to think about a new computer and not speakers

>>55258544
>>55258559
>>55258649
>>55258751
realtek alc892? good enough?

if you get jbl get the 8 inch version trust me the 305 cant compete with the hs7

>>55258776

I actually noticed a positive difference when I put in and started using my cheap as hell $40 Xonar card.

I don't even have decent speakers. Eagle Arion 2.1 system
I do hear a buzz I didn't hear before when there's no media playing but something paused in the background or some form of media loading.
Probably a side effect of the cheap DAC.

Was using onboard Realtek alc892 on the Asus p8z77-v

You could always skip getting a card and just get an external DAC.

>>55258776
Have that in my pc, sounds better than my Soundblaster

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errr, why would you guys want to go for active monitors when small T amps are at the amazing level and price point in our age and they beat easily whatever shitty amp is build in to the meh speakers

not to mention that when you play nothing, you get zero sound coming out of the speakers, no buzz, no hiss, no nothing

>>55259264
music production

i agree with you though decent bookshelf speakers will be more pleasent to listen to

most monitors like jbl and yamaha have a more flat frequency response for mixing

>>55259434
>implying monitors are bad for listening to music
nigga...

>>55259459
it depends on if the track is well mixed
with monitors the mix flaws really stand out

>>55259486
well, don't listen to shit music then

>>55259493
sure thing buddy

>>55259459
they might be tiring, harsh, not so comfy to listen to for hours

>>55258776
Guy with the 7s again. I'd say just get an audio interface. That way you're not using like aux cable to trs to plug into these speakers. I have the focusrite 2i2 and it's cheaper than normal on amazon right now. Get 2 xlr male to trs and you're good to go. It's basically like an external sound card. And if you decide to stream one day, you can get an excellent quality XLR mic for like $100

>>55257357
>hiss
vs
>okay

>>55260589
I have a SupremeFX 8 on my mobo, is it not good enough?
would it bottleneck the quality of the HS7?

>>55258462
If you go to GC they'll sometimes match the bundles you find on amazon from sketch 3rd party fulfillers. I got a pair of HS7s, foam speaker pads, stands, and 2 mogami gold cables for $600. I'm still in shock lol

If you can't afford focal solo 6's you shouldn't be making music

>>55260636
it's not for making music

>>55260636
you dont even know what youre talking about

>>55260647
Then get twin 6's and stop being a poorfag.

Either that or grow up to some genelecs

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>>55260661
Here's my rack, I make my living doing this shit. Go fuck yourself

>>55260686
>being this poor

post shit youve made

>>55260647
Then why the fuck are you looking at studio monitors?
They are flat and boring as fuck.

I own the HS8, I know.

>>55260709
>Poor

K bud, enjoy your JBL's

>>55260724
i like adam a7x the best

>>55260745
Well you have good taste, those were my favourites for many years.

Congrats on not being a jbl/yamaha/mackie/presonus shitter.

>>55260614
The DAC on onboard audio is always going to be worse but it may not be a huge difference. You may also hear more noise when you're not playing anything. Other than that, probably not a big deal. Also, remember to shut off your speakers (they have an on off switch on each one) before shutting down the sound source (your pc). Otherwise you'll get those full volume pops that fuck your speakers

>>55260762
Plenty of studios use Yamahas as 2nd opinion monitors breh

>>55260714
everyone else says studio monitors are perfect for listening to music, in fact better than anything else

>>55260790
Yeah, they use NS10s because they have the most overhyped high mid in the history of monitors and showcase everything wrong with your mix. They're only used as a reference to figure out what is wrong with the mix.

Otherwise many post production studios (at least the ones I've engineered at) have tons of HS5's sitting around to use for 5.1 and 7.1 mixdowns. Again, only being used as a utility and not as a main monitor.

That's only based on about 20 years of experience though. You may be CLA for all I know

>>55260686
Holy shit what the fuck is all that shit

>>55260830
>You may be CLA for all I know
i doubt he would come to a place like this

>>55260803

studio monitors are for audio work

small scale jbls lack midrange and bass

any small to midsize monitor will have the same deficiency

in professional studios, the monitors are large and cost more than your automobile, and they are powered by dedicated separate amplifiers

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>>55260934
What boredom and spending cash does to you. Here's a pic of the guitar wall, I was doing a drum recording for a buddy so that's in the way but it's normally clear in here.

>>55261092
desu though I wish I could program shit like you guys

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What do you guys think of:

Amp
http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-lp-2020a-tripath-class-t-hi-fi-audio-mini-amplifier-with-power-supply--310-300
Speakers
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-b652-6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-pair--300-652

For a first time buyer switching from logitech Z623's

>>55261092
jealous as heck desu

t.poorfag

>>55261240

an okay economical
upgrade

>Home Theatre Fags/Audiophiles
eww

sitting here with my hd558's and 5.1 digital sony amp and Akron 4 way floorstanders from the 70's not giving a shit senpai
>>55261240
Go to a thrift store get the biggest heaviest oldest floorstanders they got for like $50 get a used stereo or 5.1/7.1 amp and run it in stereo mode $50 thats like $100 and will blow shitty bookshelf shit off the wall mate

>waaa i have a small shitty apartment
Dont be a dick get headphones and a nice amp

>>55261326
>Literally no idea what audiophiles are
>Thinking cheap studio monitors have anything to do with those autists

Sure thing bruh

>>55261343
audiophiles are those dudes who have more disposable income than you do

cheap studio monitors - you get what you pay for - and what you get is not professional tier

>>55261408
this is me
>>55261092

Audiophiles are just autists/sperglords who don't put their efforts towards something useful. They put their money towards literally useless shit that is exclusively marketed towards them at 10000% markup.

>>55261408
>>55261343
>>55261523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXiOirncTA

>>55257462
>best speaker drivers
>what is Adam audio
>what is funktion one
>what is genelec
>what is Dynaudio

>>55257873
Depends on the price range. A pair of Adam A77X is a god-tier setup, but not for every wallet or room. There's always the cheaper, single cone Adam A*X series, which comes in different sizes. On the lower end, Yamaha HS* are good options. Genelec also has some good offerings.

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just a reminder that the real JBL monitors cost $6 to 8K a piece and require real amplifiers to drive them; please fuck off with these dollar-store tier 305 units that are just to boost JBLs bottom line by pandering to poorfags who think they're getting a real JBL

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>>55261626

>>55261533
I don't understand what you're trying to prove. All you did is link some goober who is desperate for attention

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>>55261634

>>55261626
>Using an ICON

Literally just a massive, overpriced keyboard (that is locked to specific software only).Good pic to prove that retards will waste money on anything

>>55261644
thats a typical audiophile

i didnt try to prove anything

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>>55261651

>>55261626
>>55261634
>>55261651
>>55261679
But do they hiss?

>>55261092
Well, seems that atleast you are not an audio retard. What are the best speakers out there?

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>>55261679

>>55261663
that's nice

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>>55261686
only if the source does, i would presume

>>55261697
Best for what?

Also in general if you're mixing and not a retard you can learn any speaker. They all sound a little different and as long as you recognize something like an NS10 has a very hyped high mid and no low end, you can use that to your advantage to produce professional sounding mixes.

If you're talking about just listening to shit then it comes down to what you like the look of. Just throw your music through an EQ if you really need to alter it but you'd honestly be fine with something like the HS5 or even the Focal Alpha series if you want a little more low end. I would suggest not using adams or higher end ribbon tweeter shit for everyday listening. I have a pair of focal solo 6 for my tv running through a FMR RNC to balance out the ear-rape commercials. I have them mainly because I like how they look, they sound great too but they fit the room

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>>55261626
That's cute. True master-race of mainfield monitors coming through. Behold the glory of Adam S7A.

>>55261770
room treatment also my friend you can have the most expensive monitors and waste them with bad room acoustics

>>55261788
Yeah, this is especially important if you're making edm shit, most people lose all the low end they had and think it's their monitors being shit. Meanwhile if they stood in the corner next to them their heads would be exploding.

I used to have spreadsheets to enter room dimensions and it would tell you problem frequencies and their node positions in the room. I should see if I can dig that up for people to check out.

>>55257357
+1 HS7

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>>55261771

and only $55,000

i always use these when i want to dub a recording of my personal symphony orchestra

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>>55261770

>focal

YES

>>55261971

>he has to use a 6 wheel dolly to cart that fucker in

for 55K it should be self-mechanized and also dispense soft drinks

>>55262016
it should suck your dick too for that price

>>55262016
>6 wheel dolly

nigga that's a road case, if anything I wouldn't even trust those puppies to sit on that flimsy taller thing.

great thread, for once /g/ is not filled with jblfag but true studiofag as well

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I've been using this Indiana Line's 2.1 desktop system for a couple of months and so far I'm definitely satisfied with them. Since I have money to spend for things I like, I'm wondering if truly flat monitor speakers can be a step up in terms of soundstage, instruments' separation and clarity. I've been looking into Yamaha HS8, JBL lsr308 and Tannoy Reveal 802. Has anyone here tried them? Impressions? And what about 5" monitor speakers from the same brands?

>>55260714
>>55260803
>>55259520
>>55259459
I still can't understand where this "monitor stuff is bad for listening to music" idea comes from. Technically a flat sound should be the most accurate and balanced one, thus it should be the most pleasing to listen to. I own a K702, which is fairly neutral, even though it emphasizes mid-highs and mid-treble a bit, and it sounds better and more accurate to me than the Fidelio X2 (pretty bassy, even though it's fun to listen to) I previously owned. Sennheiser HD600 is one of the most neutral heapdhones out of the box and unsurprisingly it's an absolute favourite for most music listeners.

>Micca PB42X
I want smaller and cheaper, how are these?

Dead thread?

>>55266120
so I should be fine with a pair of Yamaha HS7 if I just want to listen to music?

>>55266410
Theoretically yes, but let's hope that informed people will show up and tell us their impressions.

>>55260636
shut the fuck up
>>55260686
nice blue giant you got there though

can you color your studio monitors through an equalizer?

>>55266695
Yes

>>55266769
so why wouldn't you buy studio monitors for music then if they are higher quality speakers?

>>55266891
Because people prefer "muh ear-violating bass" over a more refined and accurate sound.

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>>55259264
>>55258508
>>55257357
>>55261240
>>55266120
>>55266410

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JY7cy7VwNk

spend money it is the best hobby to have

>>55266891
studio monitors go for aa clean cold sound to make sure sure the mixing is right hifi speakers go for a warmer richer sound that is why generally they will sound better
>>55266961
true bass from a proper subwoffer is one of the great joys of this world

>>55267147
>filthyreddit
You have to be over 18 to post here.

>>55267174
I am how do you think I can afford to have 10k worth of hifi equipment sitting on my desk

>>55267162
> warmer, richer
It just means that it's mid-bass boosted, which can be bad when it covers details in the mid-range. Cold sound is usually exaggerated, it just means that it's accurate, more refined and that it lets details come out because it's closer to the original source. In my opinion, the closer to the original source, the better it is. I'm sure that also most hifi speakers have flat/neutral sound.

>>55267255
yeah that was a bit exaggerated but hifi aswell allows you to upgrade in components its sort of like pc vs mac with hifi you can swap out the amps the speakers and whatnot that is not the case with monitors you have to buy a full package and hifi gear looks super nice

>>55267382
also I kinda think of it as monitors are a tool for work and hifi is for play

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>>55267255

all these factors vary somewhat from room to room, and vary depending on the hearing range of the listener

but the quality of reproduction from the driver is one of the most important things, and so is the size and material build of the speaker cabinet -- the difference between a plastic toy piano and a hand-built wood violin

people like different sound signatures, and that's why it is important to try out speakers in person

>>55267431
signal amplification also plays just as important part I don't get why you would but a good set of speakers and get a bad amp

>tfw you fucks are arguing here about meme tier monitors while i just sit here enjoying my S2X's

>>55267448
You type like a virgin

>>55261686
Speakers don't hiss you fucking retard

>>55268239
Active speakers sometimes do

>>55268980
Maybe because of the amp

>>55269125
> maybe
Of course it is.
Btw flat speakers > everything else

>>55266120
Can anyone write impressions about this?

>>55267448

for the same reason people shill the 305 on here like there are no other speakers on the market that are far superior -- ignorance

>>55269933
Wait, aren't JBL lsr305 the best 5" monitor speakers?

What's people's opinion on Wharfedale's Diamond Pro?

>>55270914
they are neat speakers for their price can't complain
people here tend to pick favorites and just say fuck everything else
oh by the way the others have no idea what the fuck they are talking about or only engulve you in the knowledge they have accumulated by reading online reviews off stuff they will never even see themselfes
or simply shill their shit as usual

>>55257622
A furfag calling someone else a faggot, that's rich.

>>55257622
hello Garret Claridge

My dad is looking for some inexpensive (<100 dollarydoos) speakers for his TV. Any suggestions?