/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread:

>>55203433
How can I make my debian use i965 instead of i915?

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> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/

> Tiling pasta:

/*
Tiling Window Managers:
*/

General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager

Awesome:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome

Awesome + Gaps:
https://github.com/copycat-killer/lain

i3:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3

i3 + Gaps:
https://github.com/Airblader/i3

bspwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm

spectrwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spectrwm

dwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm

/*
Tiling scripts (these work DE/WM independent):
*/

Pytyle:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytyle/

Pytyle2:
https://code.google.com/p/pytyle/

Pytyle3:
https://github.com/BurntSushi/pytyle3/

Pytyle differences:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1058199#p1058199

Horsefuckers tiling BASH scripts:
http://twily.info/scripts/tiling/

I have a sound issue using Arch :

> I have been using arch for months, but recently my sound is randomly stopping.
> restarting alsa doesnt do anything
> I have to restart my computer to have sound again.
> Now it seems that I can hear sound using my earphones. It wasn't the case when the issue striked in few weeks ago.
> I tried to reinstall all alsa* packages, nothing changed.

> I am not using PulseAudio (I tried once and it ended up in a clusterfuck I wasn't able to maintain)
> My machine is a thinkpad x201

Any idea?

>>55203502

Check logs.

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When I use the 'hot corner' option of 'show desktop', windows don't get properly minimised and I can see their corners in the screen ones.

I'm using KDE 5 on Fedora 23. What could be causing this?

Xfwm is a fucking cancer straight back from 1980.

Any modern window managers that has 3D effects AND not deprecated?

>>55204708
>i want something more modern than xfce
>but i want to keep using xfce
just use something else, anon, nobody is forcing you to use xfce

>>55203533
Where are the logs for alsa?

I forgot to mention that there's nothing in dmesg.

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Has anyone tried NixOS? Is it good? The only reason why I'm considering it more than Guix is because it has more packages available.

How can I browse through my font's character set? It has some nice special characters but I have no idea how to use them

>>55204708
Did you tried the Elementary OS stuff? Pantheon or something...

>>55204795
xfd perhaps,
$ xfd -fa "Unifont"

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>>55204795

Use GNOME's character map.

>>55204902
>>55204856
thanks!

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>still no thumbnail preview on gtk
When will this nightmare end?

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>>55205017
There are bigger issues at hand

>>55205051
Wheres the issue?

>>55205061
Drowpdown menu dissapears right after the mouseclick

>>55205061
It's with your brain.

>>55205069
Works on my machine. You're on GTK3?

>>55205076
(You)

>>55205051
Now I've got this weird habit of holding down left click for combo boxes.

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>>55205017
This only affects retarded gtk3 DE users though, the thumbnail bullshit affects even terminal using WM masterrace people like myself (because programs such as gimp and firefox use it)

>>55205086
Yes

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>>55205109
the response was aimed at >>55205051

>>55205109
Firefox is gtk3

Name            : firefox
Version         : 47.0-2
Description     : Standalone web browser from mozilla.org
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/
Licenses        : MPL  GPL  LGPL
Groups          : None
Provides        : None
Depends On      : gtk3  gtk2  mozilla-common  libxt  startup-notification
                  mime-types  dbus-glib  alsa-lib  ffmpeg  libvpx  libevent
                  nss  hunspell  sqlite  ttf-font  icu
Optional Deps   : networkmanager: Location detection via available WiFi networks
                  [installed]
                  upower: Battery API [installed]
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 90.35 MiB
Packager        : Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <[email protected]>
Build Date      : Tue 14 Jun 2016 23:35:33 AEST
Install Date    : Wed 22 Jun 2016 14:28:15 AEST
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : Signature

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>>55205127
Stop using a pleb binary distro and compile it with gtk2, or create a binary package for the distro you're using

>>55205149
Even then your tumbnail doesn't seem to work properly, NEET friend. see >>55205116

The wierd thing is, GTK is using GIMP's filepicker, which already _had_ thumbnail preview (a while back), but it got also removed for whatever reason.

For GTK2 there was a patch wich never made it into upstream since people are working on GTK3 and GTK2 is in "only security fixes" mode.

We can only wait, or downgrade -> >>55205149 I guess.

>>55205109
what is this? KDE

>>55205162
It doesn't thumbnail files bigger than 4 mb or something, however you can change the amount.

>>55205168
You mean upgrade, gtk3 adds nothing, besides bloat (dbus dependency), and of course the feature that breaks your themes every minor version change.

>>55205168
>More than a decade
It's a wontfix

>>55205168
Is gtk3 new?

>>55205180
gtk2

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I tried to set up a very slim distro today, the 25MB Trisquel Netinst and ratpoison. It still uses up well over 100MB of RAM with basically nothing running. How can I improve it? Thinking about reviving an old laptop that only has 512MB RAM.

The original bug report + discussions + patches (GTK2 only). https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154#c87

>>55205283
Actual patches: https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/

gtk3 patch: https://gist.github.com/wfr/c8e431a61d300b4f3d15

>>55205330
Babby here on GTK2, how to install this?

>>55205264
Why don't you look at top/htop and see what's using all of the memory?

>>55205338
AUR package when?

>>55205349
apply the patches and compile gtk2/glib, also install tumbler. I created a CRUX port for both glib and gtk, I'm also pretty sure the AUR and Fedora have packages, so if you use any of these distros just use the package/port.

>>55205264
Update your screenfetch buddy, looks pretty out of date.
Use screenfetch-dev from here: https://github.com/KittyKatt/screenFetch

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Bash ranger-clone back again.
Took the advice here >>55195814 and put the directories into an array. Made some progress.

pararr=( $(ls -d ../*/) )
subarr=( $(ls -d */) )
total=${#pararr[*]}
    for (( i=0; i<=$(( $total -1 )); i++ ))
    do
        printf "%s\t\t\t\t%s\n" "${pararr[$i]}" "${subarr[$i]}"
    done

Messy right now but it does what I want so far.

>>55205630
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs

Cont. your shell scripts, /faglets/.
>>55201699

My

/sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17

keeps increasing by 30~40 every second.
Is this normal?

$ date && cat /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17
Wed Jun 22 21:01:49
   42305   enabled

$ date && cat /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17
Wed Jun 22 21:01:59
   42341   enabled

$ date && cat /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17
Wed Jun 22 21:02:10
   42375   enabled

>>55205149
I'm just using thunar out of habit, what do you suggest, onoD?

>>55205874
I just us the terminal and cp/cd/mv/etc. as my file manager, the screenshots are just of the gtk2 filepicker firefox and programs such as gimp use.

>>55205914
>cp/cd/mv/etc
my nigga

>>55203433
what the heck is the context of that pic?

>>55205709
Replaced ls with find. Added an or to the for loop to determine whether pararr or subarr has more elements..

pararr=( $(find ../*/ -maxdepth 0) )
    subarr=( $(find */ -maxdepth 0) )
    
    partotal=${#pararr[*]}
    subtotal=${#subarr[*]}
    for (( i=0; i<=$(( $partotal -1 )) || i<=$(( $subtotal )); i++ ))
    do
        printf "%s\t\t\t\t\t%s\n" "${pararr[$i]}" "${subarr[$i]}"
    done

I have an issue with directories uses spaces right now. Directories using spaces will be placed in separate elements of the array.

>>55205945
Go linux, get pussy.

>>55205986
>spaces
"Use quotes."

>>55205914
Ayy, I tried for like a week or two to use nothing but the terminal for moving / renaming my files and folders but it was a pain in the neck when I had to put some file on usb thumbdrives (I am faster when I do it by ctrl+cliking on the specific stuff I want to copy).

I use the terminal only when I have to deal with wildcards.

>>55205399
I downloaded it literally minutes before taking that screenshot
>>55205350
Seems like it's mostly X and xterm.
Is there a lighter terminal than xterm?

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>>55204358
Pretty please? Anyone?

When I hover my mouse over an icon or select it in thunar it turns completely black, and it doesn't look like it comes from my gtk or icon theme... Is it an issue with my thunar version or something?

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>>55206210
Here's an illustration

>>55206210
Does it happen with thunar only?

>>55206335
Yup

>>55206210
try cleaning your thumbnail cache, maybe it helps
btw what beautiful font is this?

>>55206276
what a fugly ui

>>55206372
This isn't twitter.

>>55206365
cure from artwiz-fonts
I tried cleaing the cache but it didn't seem to work. I'll try removing the thumbnail plugin next.

>>55206372
this is a WIP :^)

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>>55203433
Where can I find some credible information about virtualbox? I know the majority of /fglt/ are newbies.

I want to know whether Vt-d passthrough works with the seamless mode before buying a new computer.


Serious replies only.

>>55203433
Debian newbie here,
I can't seem to find a way to install xfce (or any window manager) from aptitude, and when looking manually i can't find it.
Can anyone post the xfce repository?

Trying Linux for the first time, wish me luck!

Creating Windows recovery disks for my laptop right now, it's on the last disk. Just downloaded the Live ISO for Lubuntu, trying to figure out how to turn the USB drive into a bootable one without bricking it, actually I might just use one of the spare blank DVDs laying around, can't afford to risk bricking the flash drive right now.

Also want to try Xubuntu. We'll see which one works better for my slow laptop.

Also, when Lubuntu switches to Cutie, is it gonna be a pain in the ass to reinstall, or will it be more like an upgrade?

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>>55204358
hi, it's an effect, disable it in Desktop Effects -> Window Aperture

>>55206416
If you want to virtualize, it's better to go with QEMU/KVM, that way you get good results with the virtualized machines. Also before buying, never go for Intel K processors (the overclockable ones), because they dont have Vt-d and IOMMU on them.

>>55206542
How is QEMU better?

>Window Manager Reviews. To decide the main look and feel.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tfnhk/raw

>GNU/Linux Software Big List. For options on many more stuff.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/zf6af/raw

>How to Customize your Bash Prompt
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-customize-your-bash-prompt-on-a-linux-vps
http://dotshare.it/
http://terminal.sexy/

>Where to get some themes and icons
https://www.box-look.org
https://www.gnome-look.org

Arc, a GTK Theme: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/arc-gtk-theme
Mac OS X (MacBuntu) Transformation pack for Ubuntu: http://www.noobslab.com/search/label/macbuntu
How to have a Win 95 theme on Lubuntu: https://ghostbin.com/paste/atb7t
Macintosh System 6 XFCE4 Theme: https://github.com/ubuntufag/System6-theme

IRIX icons: http://darkdoomer.deviantart.com/art/da-motherfuckin-irix-icon-set-179568520
Win95 icons: https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Classic95?content=157298
Paper Icon Set: http://snwh.org/paper/icons/

>Starting x without DM or Login Manager
https://ghostbin.com/paste/nsdkf

>>55206672
it's build into the kernel, so it always works, unlike virtual box witch needs to be recompiled every kernel update.

I'm also pretty sure virtual box isn't totally free software and has weird license. Oh and QEMU/KVM has different frontends such as gnome boxes, terminal, etc.

There is pretty much 0 reason to use virtual box over qemu on linux

>>55206727
Reminder we have two threads on /t/

One about ported vidogames
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

And one on tutorial videos for system administration and IT
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Also check the list of open source games
https://ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw

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>>55206747
Okay, but does it have things like seamless mode/unity mode? Drag and drop? I'm sure there is shared clipboard feature

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000507

>drop xfce six years ago due to this bug
>it still isn't fixed

Why is this allowed?

>>55206911
(or at least Xubuntu)

I've reinstalled Xubuntu today just to see if the bug still happens and I can replicated any time.

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>>55206508
Thank you so much! Why would that be the default behaviour?

Much better now.

>>55207207
You're welcome, it's just a visual effect like you're stashing the windows, it's not like they're really on the corners.

>>55207300
>>55207300
Hum. I guess that everyone uses things differently. I tend to use it to minimise all so I can return to a window I've somehow plastered in the desktop.

Once again, thanks.

>>55205945
http://bijo-linux.com/
Weird-ass site but I'm happy.

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>>55207374
Interesting.

>>55205264
well get rid of the wallpaper first of all

Does anyone know how to make the scrollbar persistant in gtk or firefox? So that it doesn't disappear even if the whole page fits on the screen

>>55207528
what

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>>55207374
>http://bijo-linux.com/
>pic related
What do ? Do I need to install some japanese font or something ?

>>55207751
yes, jut pull it from your package manager

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>>55207827

>>55207862
>Nobody is posting 'mount'.
I don't think I'm the youngest here, but sure the most immature.

Lubuntu or Xubuntu?

I heard a few anons mention the 16.04 release of Xubuntu has quite a few bugs. Should I go with Lubuntu for now? But isn't Lubuntu switching to Cutie sometime soon? Will updating it be a pain?

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>>55207999
Niceeeeeeeeeee

>>55208183
would

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>>55208221

Is it possible to fully emulate vim commands and behavior with emacs extensions? I really would like to use emacs, but the dreaded emacs pinky I hear about is turning me away.

>>55208256
Yes, "evil"

>>55208293
I've been told that evil doesn't perfectly emulate vim and there are parts that are a pain compared to vim.

>>55203433
I have a big problem guys..
>This morning
>Move mouse
>Pc (lenovo z50-70) wakes up
>try to copy-pasta some files that I left on desktop yesterday night
>doesn't work
>No problem, reboot

And here everything fucks up

The computer try to Lan-boot
I switch off Lan boot from bios

Cannot find HDD
Cannot find USB w/ Ubuntu
Cannot find DVD w/ mint

I'm pissed off af and I start booting with every fucking distro I have

Fedora works

The only problem being I don't feel fucking need Fedora, I need my Ubuntu + Windows HDD

What do /g/?

>>55203433
What's the purpose of chroot? I'm not fully convinced I understand it after some googling.

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If your linux is so good then why there less than 1% of all steam users that are actually using it ?

>>55208304
I dunno I use vim
Why do you want to use emacs over vim?

>>55208344
Because 99% of PCs comw with windows preinstalled
also linux is still shit for gaymes 2bh

>>55208371
>games

>>55208347
I like how insanely powerful emacs is, it's more than a mere text editor, it can do anything. The one thing I don't like however is the reliance in modifier keys aka emacs pinky and would like an alternative setup while still getting the power of emacs.

>>55208382
Fair enough. I'm pretty sure evil mode removes the need for the ctrl key altogether since AFAIK you get all the regular vim shortcuts. I'm not exactly sure what's missing compared to vim, but I'm pretty sure all the core functionnalities are there.

>>55208381
>le funy meme arrow meme

>>55208447
who are you quoting?

>>55208559
simply ebin

>>55208559
>who are you quoting
whom*

>>55208633
your wrong

>>55208633
hownew.ru

>>55208644
In moments like these I wish I had a smug anime girl folder.

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If I want a bleeding edge distro, is there any better option than Arch?

>install gentoo
My toaster makes compiling things from source very time consuming, so I'll have to pass.

>>55208371
>also linux is still shit for gaymes 2bh
half true. You can have better performances on linux that windows despite the drivers not being that good. Real problem is the developers that optimize their games to windows and make shitty ports for linux.

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>>55208676
>not having a smug anime girl folder
you're newfag is showing

>>55208712
Arch is fine but Gentoo is superior
Watch out even normalfags are beginning to hate on arch though

>>55208739
yeah wanted to say that, too lazy to type it all

>>55208752
what do you mean anon? when a normalfag hears "linux" the first thing that comes to their mind is "1337!#!# hax0r!", I doubt that they even know that there are different distros.

>>55208371
idiot

https://warosu.org/g/image/wOHhs_wFWbIjgB4U7X3bwg

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>>55208741
I've refused to build reaction folder over the years. That way I can keep telling myself I don't belong here despite it being true.

>>55208794
Sorry that I'm not here 24/7 to see shit like this get spammed. Report and move on lad.

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>>55208741
>You're

>>55208712
OpenSuse Tumbleweed
while tempting watchout not to mix repos from other versions

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>>55208808

>>55208813
In what way is it superior to Arch?

How about putting a system update as a crontab?
Am I fucking retarded?
A script that broadcasts to all users to notify, including the PID to cancel it, waits for a short time and then starts a system update?

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>>55203433
Guys, is there a way to hide the fuck huge title bars on GNOME? Or at least customize them?

I love the DE, but that one thing kind of gets under my skin.

>>55208957
If youŕe using Firefox, there's Hide Caption Titlebar Plus which can help. Other than that, there's pixelsaver and some other minor shit on the gnome extensions website.

>>55208957
You can remove them in your theme. Or just install a theme that already comes without title bars like "No-title" gtk.

>>55208824
yast let's you have the same level of granularity with a gui tool (you still need to know what you're doing)

the Open Build Service =OpenSuses's AUR has a definite security and signing policy (i. e. you're not just installing random code from the internet)
packman repo (an external AURlike repo) is about the same, except it is externaly/unnoficially maintained

zypper patterns are similar to gentoo overlays except they're distro maintained, so you can actually build a tumbleweed from scratch just like an archinstall with susestudio or just uninstalling/installing the patterns once you've installed opensuse

susestudio let's you export your curent status of your distro (custom repos, configs, etc) to a disk image, cloud image or even an installation disk

since opensuse just like fedora, backs and comes from an enterprisey distro, some propietary stuff like SPSS has native installers/support

>>55208957
That's not the correct way to use a telephone.

>>55208741
>not having an exclusive lain folder

good gosh freind-i-o.

>>55208891
There's not a universal reason to do this, nor is there one not to. It depends what your system is, what you need from the system, what your users are etc.

For me its really no problem to remember to manually update stuff every now and then, and I would be annoyed if I had to stop it while doing something fairly cpu-intensive when my computer can become very laggy (poor, yes I am poor).

I am sure for some people, it would be conveneient. If you wanna do it, cool. But its not for everyone.

>>55208319
well, for starters mount your ubuntu partitions under fedora and get your files where they need to be.

>>55208143
thisanon would go xubuntu because xfce is cozier as it sees things. Frankly though, not sure that it matters much.

When I want to compile some program from github and the developer doesn't mention what dependecies are needed, I feel sort of lost.

What's the best way to deal with this?

>>55209196
E-Mail them

>>55208712
Slackware is best famicom.

what is the best terminal emulator?

>>55209196
You could always attempt compilation and wait for the compiler errors to tell you what libraries are missing.

>>55209235
That's what I usually do. Thought there was a better way for this.

>>55209230
How do you manage to not royally fuck up your system when installing a package, forgetting a dependency? I looked into slackware but couldn't be bothered to try it.

What is the best vim emulator for Firefox/Chrome?

>>55209232
urxvt

Why does my fallback japanese font look so fugly in my awesome theme?

>>55209255
Maybe because it's fugly ttf.

>>55209247
You can probably look into it before attempting compilation by reading the makefile

With Fedora 24 out, I'm itching to do an upgrade, but prior experience with Buntu has led me to be wary of adopting new releases too soon.

Any Fedora users know if releases typically have show-stopping bugs? I might just attempt anyway

>>55209252
VimFx
Not an "emulator" but it has vim-like firefox shortcuts

>>55209265
I mean, it renders a-ok everywhere else but for some reason it's shit in awesome... If I set it as my default beautiful theme font though, it looks like it's supposed to. Maybe something isn't right with awesome fontconfig.

>>55209250
Release notes of a third party package should tell you if the dependencies required are already from a default install, self contained, or require additional packages. If not, it shouldn't be hard to google the dependencies and install them. You can use slackpkg to check what software is installed so you don't install the same package twice.

>>55209355
>to google

>>55209383
here, have a Kleenex to dry those tears

>>55209383
Just use whatever search engine you want. I use google it as more of a saying rather than literally use google because of how common google is.

>>55205109

Newsflash, everyone using X has a window manager running. GNOME has a window manager, KDE has a window manager, Mate has a window manager. You're not a special snowflake for using a window manager. Literally everyone is using a window manager, even your mother when she's buying your anti-retardation pills online.

>>55209409
Except that a WM doesn't include a whole desktop env. eg: bloat.

>>55209387
Try saying "to windows" for using a computer and you may get why it's problematic to use company names as verbs.

>>55208957

Edit the theme's CSS or use a global override GTK config.

>>55209445
googling is already in the common parlance, sorry friend. your battle was lost before it began

> there are still people who believe in desktop linux
kek, do you even VR ?

>>55209475
If something is popular, it doesn't automatically mean that it's correct.

>>55209532
What it does mean is that you can stop your ineffectual moaning, though.

It's already over and done with. You should find something else to crusade for.

>>55209531
>VR
you mean three dimensional surveillance?

>>55209552
>giving up
>being a beta

>>55209575
>prescriptivists
>not the most beta of them all

You guys haven't won a single point in your entire linguistic lives. Move on, please.

Anyone got experience with GASH? Will it play my /f/ files?

>>55209623
*GNASH

>>55209623
>>55209637
Oh and this one:

How to convert a swf that's basically only a video 1:1 to webm?

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>>55203433
Kroot?

>>55209623
>GASH
sign me up please

But seriously, I haven't heard of GNASH in years. And with Flash on its way out, I suspect it's dead in the water now, if it wasn't already.

>>55209650
gnash
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20194270/convert-compressed-swf-to-mp4

Installing anything other than Ubuntu makes you a masochist.

Babby's first time linux? Ubuntu? Mint? Fedora?

I want to do some programmanz on it

>>55205069
Stop clicking so much with your fat fingers then!

>>55209835
Use *buntu or Fedora.

>>55209835
Get Fedora
Don't get Mint
Boycott Canonical

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Trying to install polar night but I keep getting pic related happening(looks like win 98 or something) when it should look like this:http://i.stack.imgur.com/bJpjP.png

>>55208331
To change root? Like having a sandbox. For example during installation you install the base system of say, Gentoo, and then you change to that newly created directory.

>>55208422
Remap Ctrl to Caps Lock.

>>55210219

That's showing the GTK2 (Xfce's appearance program is using GTK2). Does Polar-Night have a GTK2 theme? If yes, does it need any theme engines? Depending on where you got that file, those things should be all explained.

>>55210308
It did require a theme engine, thsank you anon

>>55209109
t. Novell shill

>>55209879
>>55209886
Sanx downloading fedora

>>55210360
you can use whatever you want anon, that's my opinion I'm comfortable using tumbleweed as a quick solution for rolling release

>>55209879
>recommending Fedora
>>55209886
>recommending Fedora
>memeing about Mint

You people make me sick.

>>55210585
>memeing
Well, I guess people want a distro that actually gets updates for important things, like, the Linux kernel.

I have a script that converts any file to a flac file in the current folder
However it leaves the old filename extension (such as .mkv) in the new filename (filename.mkv.flac)
Simple script that renames them?

>>55210585
Fedora is a good distro that just werks™ while caring about freedom and the devels are literally Red Hat. If you think the distro is trash because le funney tips fedora meme, you should consider switching to 9gag.

>>55210615
>>55210664
Is Fedora bleeding edge or not? And you know what that means for noobs.

>>55210660
You can use BASH's parameter expansion with find when you invoke it with -exec bash -c 'f={}; ffmpeg commands -i "${f}" "${f%.*}.newextension"'

>>55210660
Or if you already have converted them, just do this:

rename 's/\.mkv//' *flac

>>55210765
>rename 's/\.mkv//' *flac
Thanks

Any particular reason I should use linux when I'm just going to end up installing windows in a virtual machine for all the programs I use?

>>55210660

I have a similar script and I do this in the output file specification (no idea how it's called, my Bash scripting is disastrous).

"${file%.mkv}".flac

Basically it strips the .mkv from the end of the filename before appending the .flac extension.

>>55210800

Why are you asking that if you already know the answer? You sound arrogant and stupid.

>>55210826
You could have thought of a reason

like I just thought of one, that if I get used to running windows in a VM i only ever have to move a single virtual machine file to have a back up of my system

>>55210765
Doesn't work?

>>55210800
how about rebooting whenever you want?

Seriously, I had to use a laptop with Win10 today, I just wanted to kill myself.
>lol you want to reboot really quick? forget it, here's an update, let's waste 10 minutes of your time

>>55210800
Freedom, Security, Community.

>>55210800
Well, if you use GNU/Linux, you have actual control about your computer.

>>55210904
I use windows 7, I'm not crazy enough to use 10 with all it's issues

>>55210913
>>55210948
Guess i better start learning now rather than later...too bad Linux Mint can't be trusted anymore

Arch seemed to be the base for doing things like GPU passthrough right?

I'm working on setting up a debian gateway for my homelab and iptables is kicking my ass. I've already set static address and and enabled ip forwarding and have successfully tested that but I'm having a hard time finding best practices with iptables that actually explain things rather than saying "run this".

Any one have any recommendations for best practices configuring iptables? I've configured ACLs on a few cli routers before so I'm not completely useless as far as security itself goes.

>flt

>>55210664
I've never seen the reason to try out Fedora precisely because

>I don't like the name of the distro
>I don't like the logo
>I don't really care for Red Hat when I'm not a corporate user
>The look on people's faces when they ask me what distro I use and I say "Fedora" and they laugh at the ebin fedora joke

I'm just comfortable on Debian Sid and call it a day. After much distro hopping I finally found my home here

So, I like how yast and sysinstall and thhose things Red Hat use to have look and feel for installing and managing everything on my computer.

What is a good platform independent replacement for that?

>>55210979
You can execute the GPU passthrough thing on any sufficiently up to date distro.

What you will quickly learn is that GNU/Linux is largely the same in all distros and the only things that change are at the surface level: the package manager, the default desktop environment, etc

>>55211016
Debian Sid is one of the best distros, but for babbies, I guess Fedora is a bit easier.

>>55211016
Use whatever you want, but I think it's pretty funny that 75% of your listed reasons are superficial.

Debian is great though.

>>55210979
>>55211050
Beware though, GPU passthrough is a very very complicated process which you probably shouldn't try if you're a beginner.

Many games are already compatible on Linux, with more coming everyday. Most of your day to day productivity Windows applications have some equally good or better alternative on Linux as well.

GPU passthrough is for advanced users

>>55211067
Yes, they are superficial, I'm not denying that whatsoever. Which is why I never talk shit on Fedora-friends, because I know my reasons for not liking it are equivalent to why I don't like how liver tastes (namely, "I just don't like it")

>>55211050
I know that much, but I've ever seen someone do a passthrough with arch, and the guides I find are all using arch

>>55211137
>Beware though, GPU passthrough is a very very complicated process which you probably shouldn't try if you're a beginner.
I know, will attempt it at some point

>>55211144
There's a reason why the ArchWiki is useful for everyone and anyone using GNU/Linux. It's all applicable. It just happens that a lot of reading material comes from ArchWiki

Here are some neat videos if you have some time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBRTLsCNXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4

And some word of warning towards certain members of the community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2efSysPvy8

>>55211180
That's where it all came from ya, fucking wendell man.

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Say, my laptop has Debian Sid with GNOME installed.

If I want to switch it to LXDE and purge it from GNOME dependencies, so that it's as if I installed it with LXDE from the beginning, what would I need to do?

>>55211180
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2efSysPvy8
This is great. Thanks for posting.

>>55211279
The video is deprecated. Install Arch Linux is the new Install Gentoo.

>>55211279
It should be mandatory watching before posting in friendly gnu/linux threads

>>55211259
have fun uninstalling all the shit that came with gnome by hand
just start over m8

>>55211377
if down the road I want to switch from LXDE to only using something like i3 or awesome, it'd be far easier then, right?

is there a reason to *NOT* use LVM when setting up the partitions for a new OS install?
I can only see advantages, really

Anyone here use Mageia?
My prof used to use Mandrake back in the day, so I'm curious to see how things have progressed.

>>55211404
probably

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>>55205104

Holy shit, this.

That's why I gave up on everything with GTK shit.

Is there a difference between vi and vim in 2016?

>>55211678
yeah

>>55211678
Yes, but many distros will symlink vi to vim on installation, which may be confusing.

>>55211684
>>55211695
So should I only use vim then?

>>55211705
Unless you have some pressing need to use plain old vi, use vim instead.

>>55211695
I fucked around with some distros over the last couple of days and base installs of ubuntu, debian arch and gentoo don't come with vim out of the box

I also thouhgt that nowadays vi is just a symlink to vim, but it isn't mostly

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>>55208344
Fix'd for you.

>>55209149
>>not having an exclusive lain folder
Can you upload it? If not, do you have that image that looks like a logo with bearsuit lain with her back to the viewer?

Or a Phantoma pic with good resolution?

>>55209285
Bump. I switched to Fedora a week ago and I literally don't know how to upgrade.

>>55211762
Either clean install or https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading

>>55211762
kek
I know that feel. being used to apt and pacman for yeas, suddenly having a different package manager can be confusing

>>55211762
https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-23-workstation-to-fedora-24/

I've never heard of critical bugs since F15 or F16. I've always waited for a few weeks after release though

>>55211773
>>55211777
>>55211797
You mofos are fast.

Yeah. I'm liking dnf quite a bit, but I'm quite clueless still. I want to try the upgrade instead of the clean install, even if it's just for trying if I can do it. I'll wait a few weeks, as suggested.

Quick question since I have your attention. I'm installing the nvidia proprietary drivers. Should I delay it until I upgrade from 23 to 24? That's exactly what fucked my Debian system two weeks ago.

>>55211864
I don't have an nvidia card, so unfortunately I can't offer guidance. In the spirit of exploration I would say go for it, though.

I'm currently without internet on my newly build Debian PC. When I do get internet on it, how would I update everything like my desktop environment?

>>55212008

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

>>55211864
Backup, try to install Nvidia drivers. If it fucks up, just do a clean F24 install.

>>55212008
Let's start at the beginning.

How did you install? Did you download a full ISO or did you do a minimal net install?

If the latter, did you use an Ethernet (cable) to connect to the internet and do it?

I'm going to assume you have a Wi-Fi adaptor. (If you don't and it's just a desktop, then you just need an ethernet cable)

If the former, you will need to either
a) Use an ethernet cord to download the wifi firmware your computer needs (it should tell you during install, im sure there's a way to check post-install however, look it up). Aptitude install it
b) On another computer, use a USB drive to download the wifi firmware your computer needs (that it tells you) and install it from the USB stick in your Debian machine

>>55212049
>>55212008
Oh I'm sorry, I misread your question.

Yeah, just

sudo aptitude update

sudo aptitude safe-upgrade

sudo aptitude full-upgrade

>>55212008
Do you want to use Debian Stable or do you want to upgrade it to Testing / Sid? (recommended)

>>55211950
>>55212045
>In the spirit of exploration I would say go for it
>clean install.
Eh, I can wait. Two clean install in less than a month is more than I'm able to withstand without starting to bitch like an idem.

>>55212049
I downloaded the full ISO from another computer and installed it that way. My wiireless adapter comes in next week so I'm not sure if I already have the wifi firmware.

>>55212085
With every clean install it gets faster and easier.

I think by now I can install arch without checking the wiki once

>>55211279
Underrated video.

>>55211318
Indeed anon, indeed anon.

>>55212078
Testing. AlI have to do to upgrade to testing is edit that one text file, right?

>>55212121
That's right

Sup /g/ents

I am going to make an Arch Linux build soon with 16GB ddr4, an RX 480 and a Zen cpu. I can't decide between the speed and lightweightedness of an LXDE desktop or the features of KDE Plasma 5. Which one should I choose?

>>55212109
Yeah. I bet I'm the best at enduring emotional abuse ITT, but that doesn't mean anyone should have that as an objective.

I see you're all good willed, but I like to avoid trouble whenever possible and face it (and learn from it) when it can't be helped. Shit can hit the fan by itself; it needs no help from me.

>>55212138
You don't need lightweight with a build like that, it will make zero difference
The question boils down to "do you want KDE or do you want something simpler"

>>55212161
sensible way of doing things

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What are the differences between i3 and awesome?

I'm looking into trying a tiling window manager and those seem to be the most popular

Can any Debian users advise me of which release to choose for a laptop installation?

I'm having a hard time deciding between testing and unstable.

>>55212232
i3 uses plain text for configs and awesome uses lua. Also, awesome was designed with using keyboard only in mind.

>>55212243
If you have to ask, you're probably better off in testing. And I don't mean that in an offensive way, I mean it in a practical way. If you don't need bleeding edge, then there's no real reason to be on bleeding edge.

If something breaks and takes a long time to get the fix from unstable to pass to testing, just switch to unstable.

I run Testing on my Desktop and Unstable on my Laptop, because I like to mess around in my laptop more. From personal experience, both are great and have never broken on me. Responsible use of aptitude and apt-listbugs helps you be safe from bugs and broken updates.

Just use common sense when you check what aptitude is going to remove when upgrading, and if you don't like it (like it wanting to remove your whole DE because it's in the process of upgrading in the repos and it's not done yet), wait.

>>55212243
You really shouldn't use unstable unless you know what you're doing. Why not just use stable?

>>55212284
Thanks for the straightforward answer. Based on this information I'll go for Testing.

>>55212243
In simple terms:


>If you're an experienced Debian user or come from an experienced background
>>if you do need getting the latest packages
>>>choose Unstable
>>elseif you don't care to trade a little bit of security for stability or just need a more stable experience
>>>choose Testing
>else
>>choose Stable always

>>55212232
You should try bspwm.

>>55212232
H E R B S T L U F T W M

>>55212307
>>55212343

You know, you're probably right. I could just do stable+backports when needed

>>55212232
>most popular
popularity isn't an indicator of quality

Try them all and see what fits your needs.

>>55212385
Don't. Read on

>>55212307
Stable is great for server use, but for a desktop user, it's ancient. Absolutely ancient and a pain to use beyond the most basic things.

>install Debian Stable on my dad's laptop so he can have a reliable OS in which to do his basic activities, like an office suite, web browser, and media.
>obviously installing Flash is a big no no (even pepperflash)
>I install MPV so he can watch his movies and soccer streams easily, along with Open With... extension in Firefox so it's very easy for him
>Stable's MPV is ANCIENT and doesn't work properly anymore for all the things I'm used to it doing
>There's no backport for it
>Oh well, I might as well learn how to make my own home-built backport following this guide
>It's a clusterfuck because my package needs a gorillion dependencies which I'd need to also backport
>This is quickly getting out of hand for a simple fucking MPV that just werks for my dad
>Fuck it
>Upgrade it to testing

Stable on Desktops is kind of a pain. Testing/Unstable is the way to go.

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>>55212232
search in
slant (dot) co
"What are the best Linux tiling window managers for developers?"

i don't know why I got spam filtered

>>55212232
i3 is focussing on saving workspace and minimalism
awesome is focussing on eyecandy and flexibility

>>55212428
4keks filters are the horror,
other filterd stuff:
- the website of parabola
- wgetip
etc

>>55212425
If MPV was the problem, why not just build it from latest source?

>>55212425
You're exaggerating a bit of how old Debian packages are. Yeah, they're not bleeding edge, but you still get security patches and it's going to be more stable than testing is. Debian stable really isn't that bad if you don't mind older packages.

>>55212232
Just check some youtube demo videos bruh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA

>>55212428
It should be
"What are the best tiling window managers for Linux?"

or

>slant (dot) co

+

>/topics/1902/~tiling-window-managers-for-linux

>>55212478
After my failed incursion into custom backports (the package was from Sid), I gave up on it. I've never built anything from source, and I guess I supposed that with the dependency hell I faced in the previous step I wouldn't get anywhere by doing the latter.

>>55212502
Okay, okay. They're not ancient, but if you're practically married to some software that is not easily backported, and that lacks essential features in the release that shipped with Stable, you're not in for a fun time.

I just view Testing as the EZ button that makes everything less complicated for me, and at the end of the day, that's the route to go for the less experienced Linux users such as myself

what's the best version of popcorntime on the aur?

>>55205264
WALLPAPER PLS!

>>55212511
looks real neato
how much configuration fuckery is required to have it work like this, or is this out of the box functionality?

>>55207528
>>55212616
Two kinds of people

Beginner questions in Linux :

- can I customize my mouse functions so that a wheel click will be a double-click?

- can I make it so that all windows open maximized?

- are last window positions remembered?

>>55212625
Out of the box. Install guide is here: https://github.com/windelicato/dotfiles/wiki/bspwm-for-dummies

>>55212502
You know, I got curious and started digging into the package lists for Jessie. So far it doesn't look like the things I care about are that far behind (if at all), so I'm pretty much decided on stable.

I mean, why not

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>>55212616

>>55212660
>bspwm-for-dummies
perfect for me

>>55212625
Installing is a bit complicated for beginners.
i3 is usually the beginner tiling wm. There is a gaps branch here: https://github.com/Airblader/i3 or just apt-get/pacman install i3wm/i3, that's it. bspwm is nice tho.

>>55212739
good thing that I'm not a beginner. But haven't used many TWMs, so far Awesome, herbstluftwm and ratpoison

>>55212649
First one, sxhkd can probably do that with xdotool
Second two and WM dependent.

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>>55212628
Please have my current wallpaper and learn to install arch in a simple way
Thank you anon, I like patterns.
Reverse search led me here http://fridayillustrated.com/pattern-library-cool-pattern-designs-free-use/
if anons want patterns

>>55212720
In case of additional questions, there's always the arch wiki entry. Good luck.

>>55212763
>the usual arch install includes zsh, funny alias frameworks and joghurt
lel

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>>55212763
here, have this. It's not complete but a very handy guide.

>>55212763
If this shit is so recipe-like, how come there's no official installer that just goes through the motions on its own?

Someone please post the actual Arch install guide.

>>55212807
because this is AN EXAMPLE of an arch install, say for exampe you may want to change the partitioning to LUKS+LVM or something more advance or specific

Where does alsa keeps its logs?

>>55212817
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners'_guide

>>55212807
https://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/

I think I fucked my GRUB. I have two HDDs, one for boot partition / Ubuntu, and the other one for swap space / Windows XP / Windows 7. I installed XP and 7 with their loaders in the boot partition (in a different drive than the system files), and up to that point both worked alright with the Windows boot loader. After installing Ubuntu I can see Windows 7 in the GRUB but it won't boot.

When installing Ubuntu I selected the Ubuntu partition and the swap partition alright, and I set the loader to "Windows 7 (Loader)" (the boot partition) just like it does it when you let it do it automatically. What happened and how can I fix it?

>>55212807
if you want something that is near to an "arch installer" try Architect
https://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/

>>55212763
HNNG I love tiled wallpapers
I really want to make one myself, but I'm not talented at all.

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>>55212817

>>55212763
I set this install guide as my wallpaper so I can remind myself every of my accomplishment and knowledge gained when I installed Arch Linux.

>>55212605
none
yify a shit

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>>55212763

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Do tiling window managers work well with laptops at 1600x900 resolution?

Just want to know if it'd be comfortable to use them on a relatively small screen, or they're best left for 1080p and above

>>55212926
my laptop has a shit 768p tn panel so im not too concerned about quality when watching stuff on it

I'm leaving Gentoo for various reasons and want to try BSD. Anyone know which is better, Free or Open?

>>55212937
>Lastpass
>trusted/secure
Top kek

>>55212986

>768p
That's not a thing. You can't just add "p" at the end of every vertical resolution and think it will mean something. The "p" doesn't stand for pixels.

>>55212937

>far superior to bash
>for people who haven't even scratched bash's surface

Shitty apps guy is outdoing himself every time.

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>>55212937
>ad hominem
It's a good guide, the software guide is shit, but the arch install does what it should

>>55212817
>pic related

>>55209285
No official release for kmod-wl on 24 for me :9 how do i get it

Let's say I am writing on a thesis as part of my curriculum. I came up with the topic myself, on paper the university supported me during my research but in practice I sat at home programming something and writing a thesis about it.
I have to hand in three copies: one for the supervising professor, one for the other examiner and one for the university's library. I'm going to go to a copy shop and print and bind three copies.

Let's now say I want to ensure readers have the ability to study the source (LaTeX code), modify it and publish copies, modified or unmodified. Do I just put a page in each copy where it says the work is licensed under the GPL, or do I have to go to some lawyer or something and register it, or what?

>>55213036
yes i can

>>55212856
try 'journalctl | grep -i alsa'

Or kill alsa, then try starting alsactl with relevant options (eg --debug, -s, read the manual)

I don't think alsa has it's own logs (I can't find any), but it reports errors to journalctl.

>>55213052

>os-prober

Why would I install that if I only have one operating system installed? Do you even know what that does? Why do you recommend it for everyone?

>enabling wpa_supplicant manually
That's not needed.

>telling people to install aur helpers
Pathetic.

>>55213036
I thought "p" meant "16:9 aspect ratio," making "768p" equivalent to 1366x768. Kinda like how 720p is 1280x720, or 1080p is 1920x1080, and so on.

Is there a way to make say 7z, read from a file which has passwords in it,which is then read by 7z,and provides passwords to the command if it finds one.
Something similar to this:

alias 7z x='7z x -p$FILE *.7z'

>>55213075
THIS IS RANDOM ADVICE FROM A STRANGER ON THE INTERNET
Post in on a public git repo like github, and just put a note, containing the link of the source of the book, in the copyright notice.

DO your reasearch, at least this is what works in Mexico.

>>55213092
>'journalctl | grep -i alsa'
Thank. There was nothing of interest though...

>kill alsa, then try starting alsactl with relevant options (eg --debug, -s, read the manual)
I'll try this one then. thanks mate.

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Experienced GNU/Linux users, please help me out here

What size would you assign to each of these partitions for an initial installation?

You have 250 GB total.

> EFI system partition
> /
> swap (I have 4GB of RAM)
> /home

Would you use LVM, or just the vanilla partition method?

Thank you very kindly

Is LXDE the lightest DE around?
Is there a reason not to always use it on laptops?

>>55213189
EFI 512MB
/ 35GB
swap 4GB
/home the rest

>>55213230
Someone claimed cinnamon was even lighter than lxde
you could also use plain openbox with tint2

Can anyone help with this: >>55213250

>>55213189
EFI: 100MB if only one OS, 512 if multiple
/ Depends on what all you plan on installing
swap: 4GB partition if on HDD, file if on SSD
/home: rest of drive
>>55213253
Pretty sure they meant MATE. Cinnamon is fairly heavy.

>>55213075
inclulde LICENSE with which ever GPL version you want in it. Then provide it in the folder/archive you send them.

Other wise just put it as the last page of your document.

>>55213230
>Is LXDE the lightest DE around?
I guess. I'm not 100% sure though.

>Is there a reason not to always use it on laptops?
You can use only a wm (windows manager), like openbox, and don't have to deal with all the bloat coming with the DE.

>>55213189
/boot 250mb
/ 25gb
/home rest of it
You dont need swa[

>>55213313
swag is important if he want's to hibernate

>>55213332
Swap is volitle, save hibernation data to the hard disk.

>>55213290
>>55213164
Thanks.

Another question.
I work as a software dev for a large-ish research institute. I don't know what kind of license my supervisor is going to slap on it. Is the following viable if he decides to use a nonfree license?
> go home
> privately develop software tools that are useful for the software I am developing at work
> publish privately-developed tools under GPLv3
> insert those software tools into work software developed by me
> due to copyleft supervisor is forced to use GPLv3 for the software or has to develop alternate version of those tools to avoid copyright issues

>>55213272
bump

New thread :
>>55213382

>>55213393
see >>55213272
also fuck off with your /flt/ trolling

>>55213230
Try Enlightenment
pretty neat for a very lightweight DE

>>55213370
It depends on the contract you signed when you took the job. Alot of companies make you sign away your rights to personal projects because they may contain parts of code you developed for the company, as well as non-compete.This also seems illegal

>>55213406
>>55213393
>>55213272
>it's another "It's just Linux" dilemma

>>55213472
It's not a private company but rather a state-funded research institute. I'll have to check but I'm pretty sure the only code I don't have any rights to is the code I develop at work, meaning that code I make in my spare time is my own and I am the sole person who governs its publication and license.
Of course the supervisor might second-guess my decision to include copylefted code and make me develop an alternative, or fire me if I inject my own copylefted code and then sue them for not including the GPLv3. Also a case where I sue someone for something that was pretty much my own fault will likely be thrown out of court anyway.

>>55213506
Nobody calls Linux Gnu+Linux outside of /g/. I mean, the Linux project is using some codes published under GPL license, hence was forced to be under the same license by the metastasis clause of the GPL.

But whatever. It's pointless to argue on such things. You'll say stuff, I'll say stuff and in the end neither you nor I will change his mind.

>>55213621
fuck off

>>55213621
In case of doubt, ask your system:

uname -o

Enjoy.

>>55213670
In case of doubt, ask Linus :

>When Linus Torvalds was asked in the documentary Revolution OS whether the name "GNU/Linux" was justified, he replied:

>"Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZlOCHYu1Vk

Enjoy.

>>55213727
Linus made the kernel. One single project out of many that together make the GNU/Linux system.

>>55213751
Then I guess you'll start mentioning every non-gnu tools that are part of the OS?

>Systemd/X11/[...]/gnu/linux?

I watched some videos and I much prefer RMS and his idealistic, sometimes childlike autistic behaviour to Linus who just comes off like a self-righteous cunt.

>>55213789
These are parts of the distribution and vary with every other distro.