AMD RX 480 Temperature leak

>no GPU clock
Wow its fucking nothing

72C is not hot.

New OCing tools confirmed, wccftech wasn't lying apparently.
Guess that also confirms above 1500MHz clocks too.

Neat

Compared to the 95 you can see on a 390x this card is a freezer

>reference

No way Jose

>>55190143
considering the crap tier cooler the reference card has, thats pretty good

its low enough that it wont throttle(ur mum) either

>>55190143
>chinese

You blind OP? Those are Korean glyphs

>>55191069
But it'll probably sound like a jet

probably with the fan at 100%

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A card with this shitty heatsink is only going to 72 C on load. Even if it's at stock clock that's pretty good.

>>55190244
/thread

>>55191151
Impressive.
Gives me hope for undervolted passive builds

>>55191151
Why don't blowers have the fan closer to the middle? They can still expell air from the front that way.

>>55191117
Chinese streamer supposedly said it was very quiet, though no numbers.

>>55191080
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-overclocking-tool-leaked/

I was lied too.

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>>55191242
Some dual GPU cards do. It doesn't make much sense for single GPU though, since the GPU will be near the middle of the card, so you couldn't put the fan there. Even if the GPU were moved to one side, you'd need to have heat pipes going around the fan to move the heat to the other heatsink. It's just not practical.

I have a Nvidia 465GTX which idles at 76C (168F), so really under load a max temp of 72C isn't shit. I'm getting a RX470 for sure, can't w8 m8.

>>55191242
Because then the heat wont go directly up into the fins but instead has to go around. Putting the fan in the center of the card is only really doable with dual GPU cards with sufficient spacing between the GPU heatsinks to fit one, and even then such cards have a rather well earned reputation for running loud.

>>55191382
Why the fuck are you still running a GF100 chip these days?

>>55191382
do you happen to live in the core of the sun?

>>55191151
well shit, cant wait for third-party cards then

>>55191561
no he's actually using fermi

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>>55191382
>unironically using fermi, the housefire meme gpu
you brought this upon yourself

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Get ready for the amazing OCing

>>55191938
Fucking saved.

>>55190143
>72C under load

That's pretty good.
Hope they will lower it with reference card though.

>>55191993
Feels good to be a gang$ta

>>55190377
72 IS hot at stock

>>55192045
For a blower card? Hardly.

>>55192045
72C for any card is not that hot, and considering the cooling hardware involved its pretty damn good.

>>55190143
My last high end reference card was GTX 280 was going 80s C under load

Great to see RX 480 reference going just 71C under load

>>55192101
Yeah my heavily OCed 970 hardly reaches 65 at load when the ambient is almost 30

>>55190244
>>55190377
>>55191044
>>55191333
>>55192333
Nice digits

>>55192101
This. I had to put a scythe gpu cooler on my old card so it doesn't go above 80C. With stock cooler it hit 92C even with blower at max rpm.

Then again, that was an overclocked 6970 doing bitcoin mining.

72C at stock means that decent aftermarket coolers will average at the 60s.

I'm more worried about VRM temps, though.

>>55192593
It may be that the heatplate covering the card extends over the VRM chips, and that that general area has fins for heat removal. Yes, having the VRMs after the GPU will result in higher temps vs putting then before the GPU in the airstream, but with that much heat-mass to dump the energy into and the fact its been done before (several midrange reference Kepler cards on the green side did it, and I think its common practice for lower and midrange cards in general)

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>>55192045
Friendly reminder.

The funny thing is that some people actually managed to twist this into a good thing.

>>55192715
Which card?

>>55192789
The (quiet) and (uber) should make it obvious.

290X.

>msi 480 cyclone edition
NOW'S THE TIME.
BRING.IT.BACK

>>55192804
That ref cooler was such shit.

>>55192848
I remember choosing between the msi cyclone and sapphire toxic 4890 many years ago.
Great stuff

>>55192715
friendly reminder nvidia caps their chips at 85C because they dont want you hurting yourself because you're incompetent.

>>55190143
Still tells us nothing. We don't know the clock speed, we don't know how hard the fans were spinning, we don't know how this cooler compares to third party ones. If the fans were spinning at 100% we at least knew how hot the gpu would have been under load but since we don't even know that this information is pretty worthless.

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>>55190143
>Reference cooler

Why do you /g/inger's care what temp the card runs at?

>>55192871
Why did they discontinue it? It was pretty based.

>reference coolers are supposed to be sub 30 at load

>fe 1080 runs 80ish at load
>wow many cool. such temp

moral of the shit post is don't expect ref coolers to run cool or quite. And don't buy/PAY EXTRA for reference cards unless you plan to rip off the stock cooler and put some other cooling solution on it.

>>55191151
How are they getting away with such shit? It's old AMD stock CPU cooler tier, which is elaborate way of saying "garbage".
AND STILL it's supposed to be 72 degrees under load? What kind of magic is this?

>>55193352
>150watt tdp

>>55193352
nobody buys reference cards

right?

>>55192949
Does 1080/1070 not have a custom temperature target akin to Maxwell?

>>55193352
>>55193459
>>55193464

With a TDP that low and 71c at load....I'm really thinking about going reference. Its a fucking $200 card with cheap plastic and a sticker on the fan. If any thing I will rip it open and tie-wire a corsair fan on it.

>>55193464
Depends. I'm not paying an extra $100 for a 3rd party card to jew me out of overclocks that I can do myself for free.

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GO AMD GO

>>55193464
Useful if you have a small case or otherwise have poor case airflow, as blower coolers keep the heat out.

>>55193651
>>55193724
Buy a third party, the stock is going to be limited on OC a bit

If you look at the reference PCB the GPU core itself takes all its power from the slot, and the memory from the 6 pin

You have to be literally braindamaged to buy a reference-cooled AMD card. This shit is loud.

>>55191151
Jesus, I did not realize that the fan assembly extends out longer than the PCB. That card is tiny. I cannot wait to see what to see what the custom coolers look like, and if any of them cut the length of the cooler to match the PCB, I won't have to think any longer about whether or not I'm buying one.

>>55193891
I need somewhere on the card to put my Amada Kokoro sticker.

Going to sound like a jet engine...

>>55194237
And current nvidia cards with their overheating issues dont?

>>55192978
It's got no flippin heatpipes. We can assume that a proper, high TDP cooler design will drop temps by at least 20%

>>55194328
What overheating issues?

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this is the new oc tool of amd

kinda potato resolution but oh well

>>55194352
80C+ and throttling within 10 minutes of starting full load. Apparently nvidia hasnt learned their fucking lesson with Fermi: New architecture + new node + high clocks = ridiculous heat.

>>55194352
the issues that FE cards
are
throttling down after 10 mins to their base clock from the boost due to
1)being too hot 82-85c
2) surpassing the vbios p+ limit of the card

aka the card wanted quite a lot of more power that they connector along with the pcie could provide.. hence why you see 2 pins on the rest of the cards

>>55194428
muh mrsp

>>55194428
SCAAAAAAALPEEEEEERS
I wish Amazon did something to prevent it, they don't give a fuck.

>>55194399
First off, 83C isn't overheating. Secondly, it's designed to work that way. Nvidia cards aren't, and haven't been for quite some time, designed to maintain a specific clock rate. It is supposed to be dynamic, dependent on the temperature. This is exactly the function of GPU Boost or whatever.

If you could choose between a card that that starts off with a high clock rate, which gradually lowers as the card/the ambient temperature heats up to stay at its temperature target, and a card that defaults to the supposed minimum clock rate, which would you choose? While the performance of the former eventually lowers down to the level of the latter, it still achieves better performance before the card has heated up. And if the load on the card isn't that big, it'll stay at a higher clock rate offering better performance. This is the benefit of a dynamic clock speed.

Calling the intended function of the card throttling is just idiotic, and shows that you're completely tech illiterate.

>>55194527
The only and I mean the ONLY reason GPU Boost type firmware was created was to fuck with benchmarks and give that little extra 5-10% edge against competition. "GPU Boost" is just an afterthought from firmware-level temperature control. It's a waste of time.
Also boosting up when the GPU isn't running full load is absolutely useless because presumably you don't need that extra speed at that point anyways.

>>55194515
amazon is absolutely fine with getting money from the same product twice.

>>55194601
>The only and I mean the ONLY reason GPU Boost type firmware was created was to fuck with benchmarks and give that little extra 5-10% edge against competition.
Yeah, ok.

I doubt there's a point in trying to argue with someone like you.

>>55194375
That looks really nice also first time in gpu developer history that you can add voltage to your oc in an first party setup application

>>55194681
>This is what a low-knowledge Nvidishill who knows he can't win against someone who actually knows what they're talking about looks like

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>be chink
>gets cardz gibbed
>signeru paperu with funny scribbles
>devil gaijin funny gibberish scribbles means nothing to me (my signature translated to 'fuck the whale eating virgin nips').
>get million hits on baidu.

them glorious chinks.

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>>55194375
>>55194849
>tfw a chink neet makes you jelly.

>>55193352

>14nm
>new GCN architecture

its really not that hard to see why

>>55194515

whats the matter, I thought money was no object, you're not poor are you :^)

neat

>>55194352
damn son, that denial.
Nvidiots are officially mourning.

Here is the video reuploaded since youtube had the original taken down

https://vid.me/xs9x

>>55194527
The cards aren't "boosting," they're thermal throttling. Intel CPUs boost. They maintain that boost for extended periods of time. Unless you only use piece of equipment for 10-20 minutes at a time, the performance dropping after 10 minutes is ALWAYS A BAD THING. Like shit dude, what if we were talking about cars? What if someone was trying to sell you a car that couldn't adequately cool itself and would start losing horsepower as you drove it? You wouldn't fucking buy it because that's retarded and unsafe.

That said, Nvidia has a great high-end chip. If you put a good cooler on it and and clock it to the sweet spot, it will be great.

>>55194328
>>55194399
>>55194408
Is this throttling talk legit?
Surely the issue doesn't remain on cards without the Flounder's Edition reference blower.

>>55194375
Feel free to use 3rd party oc tools. Choice enough.

>>55194601
>The only and I mean the ONLY reason GPU Boost type firmware was created was to fuck with benchmarks and give that little extra 5-10% edge against competition.
>Also boosting up when the GPU isn't running full load is absolutely useless because presumably you don't need that extra speed at that point anyways.
Aren't these contradictory?
If the GPU only boosted when it wasn't full load then it wouldn't give any improvements in benchmarks. Unless the benchmarks aren't running at full load, which would then suggest that the games, which are often less intensive than benchmarks, also wouldn't be running full load.

>>55195057
Intel CPUs will maintain boost as long as the thermal properties remain favorable.
My CPUs base clock is 3.4 and it will comfortably sit at 3.9 most of the time, but if I run something like IBT it will drop to 3.5.

That said, a dynamic boost clock is more favorable to the CPU side than the GPU side because CPU processing is often done in bursts of a few seconds, while GPU loads tend to be much longer.
Yes, people do encode videos and things which take much longer on the CPU but overall that's not a typical CPU load.

Is CF viable?

>>55195481
No. If you do it then one GPU will be mostly loaded while the other sits mostly idle, as demonstrated by AMD themselves when they compared two 480s CF to a 980(Ti?) and it was showing about total 51% load.

>>55191151
Man, it's going to suck having to wait for 3rd party coolers.

>>55195285
You completely miss the point - those cards can't sustain their boost clocks in heavy loads (such as maxed out games for a benchmark) for more than 10-20 minutes. Benchmark runs are typically 1-3 minutes. Very few reviewers let the card reach total saturation before testing, nor do they keep the card thermally saturated throughout testing all games. So in effect we see these FE cards always at their boost state in tests, while in reality they tend to dip down to the stock clockspeed not even a half hour into a gaming session.

>aren't these contradictory
Anon that's just how the GPU boost works. It will let the card clock higher if power and temp limits aren't reached, regardless of if the card doesn't need to run that fast. Retarded behavior IMHO

>>55195665
It was 51% utilization in the light loads, which were CPU bottlenecked.
Some very smart people from the AotS company ran the numbers and figured a 1.83 CFX scaling ratio gave a 50% performance improvement in Ashes

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>>55194428
pucker up nvidiots

I am no Nvidia fanboy. In fact I was hoping to grab a 480 myself. However we are forgetting something. The 1070 under load is gonna be using around the 160-180w mark depending on the load. The 480 is only capable of 150w max on the reference card. But I doubt it's running at that wattage in the video. So the question becomes: If the 1070 is running cooler than the 480 under load using a higher wattage it does not look too good for the 480. I hope this is incorrect though.

>>55195868
>It was 51% utilization in the light loads, which were CPU bottlenecked.
So basically it was rigged. Unless you expect to tell me the Nvidia card was also under light loads but with nearly 100% utilization.

>>55196178
Try playing the AotS benchmark some time, it was on sale last week. You are either trolling, very stupid, or just don't understand how the benchmark scores itself.

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>>55192789
For you.

>>55194020
Get tiny ones you can stick in the middle of the fans when the custom aftermarket cards come out. The fans will probably only turn on when you hit 60C just like the 300s do unless you do a custom fan curve.

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>>55194237
And this is for you.
Never fucking buy reference, not AMD, not Nvidia.

>>55196212
I don't care how it scores itself, I'm interested in frame rates and GPU utilization.

>>55196282
It's a shame since the new reference cooler looks really slick. I know that's a shitty reason to consider a GPU but I can't really help it.

tdp is a better indication of heat output.

gpu temperature itself can be affected by fan speed, so it isn't a good indicator imo. It's not really running cool if it sounds like a jet engine.

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>>55196379
>It's a shame since the new reference cooler looks really slick.
Maybe if you were born in 2000. It doesn't look slick, it looks like an unfinished 3D render out of Maya.

>>55196404
I'm referring to the new AMD one, not the Nvidia one.

what is that site that makes gpu benchmark to every patch and shit.

>>55194428

Massdrop is selling MSI 1080s at $650~

>>55190143
>Reference cooler
>71.9C
That's not even that hot, and that's with a shit-ass reference cooler.

Who buys reference anyway? AMD's are
a e s t h e t i c
but that's it.
Buy a fucking Sapphire and watch that temperature halve.

AMD for life, faggots.

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>>55196448
That's even worse, the design resembles a cheese grater with blender blades thrown in.

Legit excited about the RX480. The price point is great but I'm afraid of the gouging.
RIP MSRP

Just means I'll have to wait 2-3 months for the prices to stabilize and news about Vega to come out.
The RX490 might be worth waiting for too though.

>>55196404

All the new coolers look hella bad. Even MSI fucked up their cooler by making it xxXXXxGAMINGzzyyyyy and adding height to make it 2,5 slots.

Just fucking put two good 90mm, 100mm or 120mm fans to a heatsink that is designed to blow the air out from the back. And just to be sure make the card take 1,5 slots. How hard is it?

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>>55196686
Nah, that's the new sapphire card. The reference design looks nice, mostly black with a few red accents.

>>55190143
>reference coolers

Who the fuck buys reference cards? Everyone waits for after market coolers,

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>>55196783
Fucking what. They took the cheese grater design and added two, fucking two blender blades. This is not a very pleasing design.

Fortunately you won't be looking at it unless you bought a case with a window, and who buys cases with a window on it?

>>55196834
Please tell me that memeM is real.

>>55191382

that's actually pretty ok

my gtx470 used to go up to 105c under load

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>>55196870
It's just a minor drive issue that has been fixed.

Now pic related looks better than FE despite the stupid LEDs.

>>55195868
>50%
100% price increase for 50% more power?

>>55191017
That's nothing, my 5850 can reach 115 degrees under heavly load.

>>55196918
Oh my god.

My head hurts when I'm imagining the marketing teams meeting on it. Those fucking screwed on "tags" (EVGA and GTX1080) probably get me more than the LEDs.

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>>55196918
What the hell happened to EVGA's design? They used to be pretty ok.

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>>55196992
Because it's 2016.

>>55197029
Would like to see an updated version of this
I'm pretty sure Win 10 will perform better nowadays compared to the older versions.

>>55196690
As long as supply is good, cards should stay near msrp, and apparently amds supply is very good.

The most intensive thing I do i play gamecube emulators and new vegas. I have been running a 9600GT for many years now and i might be ready for an upgrade. Will this card suit my needs? My monitors max resolution is 1440x900

>>55196918
idiot PC gaymer with their parents' credit card care more about RGB lights than Voltage control or binned chips, or more power phases.

>>55197058
You might want to look at the rx 470.

>>55197078
thanks, supporting a wife and two kids stretches your gaming budget pretty thin

>>55196783
>>55196834

FYI this so called cheese grater design was confirmed fake by Sapphire PR

>>55197133
Tell the kids to fuck off and buy a GTX 1080.

my friend told me its actually illegal to plug in a GTX 480 in 37 states, c/d?

>>55197193
Kek'd

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>>55197193
with these specs i don't even think the 1080 could save me

>>55193787
Do the non references do it differently? Genuinely curious why they would do that on the reference card

>>55197233
>Memory 3.8 GiB

Did they actually convert 4 "GB" of RAM to 3.8 GiB? What fucking retard wrote that?

>>55195004
>NEET
ftfy

>>55192949
>friendly reminder nvidia caps their chips at 85C because they dont want you hurting yourself because you're incompetent.

Friendly reminder that AMD has been doing that for almost a decade now, while Nvidia only started doing it the last few generations.

will there be more 1070s by the time Polaris hits next week?

>>55196918
>Those useful illuminated ports though
Ever reach around the back in a dimly lit room? That would be very welcome.

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>>55197584
>mfw I just realized that sounds very homo.

>>55197134
Please be true.

>>55197134
I hope this is true.

>>55197321
Gibbybytes.

>>55197233
That CPU is gonna bottleneck any GPU post 2006.

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>still no RX 460 details/benchmarks/leaks

>>55197321
Nvidia sales rep.

>>55197727
470 looks like a very cute card.
460 looks even cuter, I'm hoping some manufacturers pick it up for notebooks.

>>55197511
nope, because flood

>>55197727
Spoiler alert:
It'll probably be about 960 tier
It presumably has no addition power connector.
It'll be cheap as fuck.

Sounds like the new go-to for slapping in a computer to make it able to play games.

>>55196884
>105c
...Nvidia actually thought they could release nuclear reactors into the wild just like that?

>>55197887
Hoping for at least 380 performance

7870 is about to die so it would make a good budget replacement

When are we going to get the 480s with better coolers?

>>55197887
Jesus Christ. I need to get off /g/. I'd like to be neutral and believe nothing until the cards get released but the hype is too real. My hype with Pascal died immediately after benchmarks and more info. Polaris looks like it wants to fuck up the GPU market with three cards. A sub $100 passive card that does midrange from last generation would be amazing.

>>55198132
Mid to late July

>>55198140
>Passive
I'm not entirely sure where you got that from, it'll definitely have a cooling fan.

But yes, the rumours have been quite exciting since the lower end cards have been fairly disappointing recently.

>>55193464
you just need to make it seem like a privilege or something exclusive. Founders edition 1080/70 sold like hot cakes and people paid a premium for the blower design cooler.

>>55198140
>>55198175
I'm just retarded. I was thinking of a card without power connectors but typed passive instead.

>>55198206
I assumed but wasn't entirely sure.

Keep in mind I wrote presumably, not confirmed. Although I can't imagine a cut down version of a chip that uses ~100 watts doesn't make it below 75.

>>55191725

>mfw i've got two 560ti 2GB's that I actually still use in various computers

bitches are hot as fuck in sli though, i'd hate to see what faster fermi cards are like maxed out. still have a boner for a 590 sli setup.

>>55192804
>>55192856

reference cooler hot as fuck but as long as you can afford AC who gives a shit?

>>55197193
Don't forget the wife's kids too.

>>55198291
Doesn't make much of a difference. When the card is running 95C, 20 or 25C ambient don't matter.

>>55197134
>>55197619
>>55197636

Can't post a link, but search for SapphirePR on twitch, watch the latest video and skip to roughly 20:20, he jokes about it.

>>55191938
Fuck yes m8

>>55192045
Nope. Stop posting

>>55198344

i know, that's the point i've been making for a long time now.

cards and cpu's can get plenty hot but people often forget how fucking small they are compared to the volume of air in a room or a house.

When do aftermarket cooler even be released, Im really needing of a video card

>>55198357

webmshare.com/D3xbx

>>55198787

Sadly they won't be available but this reviewer says they might not be needed

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29653170&postcount=4711

>>55198919
I just want the 8 pin for better overclocks.

>>55199222

You'll probably end up spending closer to $300 for that around launch, which kind of defeats the point of the 480, mid July to end of July is probably where those aftermarket cards will launch

>>55196448
Yeah it doesn't have any heat pipes maybe an AIB will make one with a vapour chamber I'd buy that

>>55196653
sli and crossfire are cooled better by blowers then multifan

that and im considering a reference amd just so it can also double and extra airflow out of my case.

yea, i know, get a better case, im planing to with my next build but right now i need to make it through a summer.

granted, depending on how much the stock oc for the cards are i may consider getting a non ref. never had an issue with blowers. have more noise issues with my non ref honestly.

>>55190423
unless a manufacture comes stock with 1500 assume thats a golden card.

>>55190143
>reference cooler

okay?

If I was going to buy one of these I'd get a non-reference one.

>>55197394
amd does it to save the chip... nvidia does it to... fuck knows why they do it at 85

>>55198780
play a game in a room for an hour or two with a gpu/cpu running full tilt.

that room becomes VERY uncomfortable very fast.

I owned my 280x for less than a year and a half.

Just got a U3415W a few days ago, sitting on the fence waiting for Vega afterwards. Saw a GTX 1070 go in stock and impulse bought it.

How badly did I fuck up? I only have a FX 8350 and was gonna upgrade when Zen came around.

I know the RX 480 wasn't meant for me, but I wanted to see the benches before I did anything.

btw overclockers UK have confirmed they will have 'ample' 480's at launch and prices look to be less than 230 for the 8GB reference card. But we will see.

I just have to ask why anyone would be up in arms and rage at this, even if it's not OC'd that's still cooler than the comparable next Gen cards, and it makes sense as its on a single 6 pin power plug so max wattage with PCI and PSU supply is 150W.

I wonder why the NDA doesn't lift until the release....

I wonder....

Could this be Piledriver all over again?

>>55200830
piledriver was good though, are you thinking of bulldozer?

>>55200830
>When you try to make and insult but fucked it all up.

>>55201207
>When you try to make and insult but fucked it all up.

>implying piledriver wasn't shit

go back to lelddit

>>55190143
>71*c in a reference card
Holy shit thats really good.

My old ref 6970s would easily get past 90*c while playing games and went up to 95*c when mining buttcoints (2012 remember).
Sold em to my friend for 50$ each in 2013 and he still uses em at 90*C.

>>55201224
>implying you don't lelddit

My passively cooled 8600GT idles at 70c, by the time i boot to desktop its already 65c

>>55197855
>460 single slot when

>>55191151
god that looks cheap as fuck

>>55193464
i made the mistake of buying a reference gtx 770 as my first upgrade from a msi HD 7750

>>55197727
>im to poor to buy a 200$ card

>>55201347
200$ cheap

I just hope that the fan cards don't all shoot up to over $250 because they will be easier to keep cool for overclocking. Some of us just like to keep things quiet.

>>55201265
that's quite high

my idle 9800 gx2 was at 47C
my reference gtx 280 idle was also slightly below 50C

When the last time you cleaned especially under the fan.

>>55195107
well yeah no matter how hard you oc the card it will go down to the base clock
as other have said boost clock is just a legit way to win on benchmarks
i suspect people will go pissing a lot when the first dx12 bench lands from ms and they wont be able to use any of their so called compartibility of dx12.1....(i think they forgot that 12.1 needs a full dx12 compliance in order to work..)

its pretty safe to say that for whatever reason nvidia didnt really got everything out of the 16nm ff their own words about 1.8x perf increase is really grim since tsmc said the base perf increase for 16nm ff is 2.0x only fron the die shrink

>>55196783
sapphire already said that this is not the 480 they said its "an upcoming card"

i guess one that can grate cheese

>>55202247
Passively cooled means there is no fan , just heatsink . Hence the term passive cooling

>>55190143
My 960 hits 80c under load constantly.

>>55190143
>70 degrees is the new 90 degrees

Fuck this board.

>>55200830
because unlike others amd for the last 5 gen of cards doesnt do a paper launch they lift nda the day the cards are on the market
you dont have you wait a month for them with some shady reviews brainwashing you while using games from 2013 to showcase how powerfull the card really is (lel like someone is playing bf3 to be relevant anymore)

>>55200830
>Could this be Piledriver all over again?

You mean, fucking dope?

When are they going to show AIB cards? Have they set a pre order date?

>>55202589
everyone will use the refrence cooler
apparently amd has done quite a good job with it
that
or the card is so well built that even if the cooler is shit it doesnt need something (apparently the korean guy that leaked the 1607mhz firestrike result said it was on 80c with the refrence cooled during that)

>>55194428
>GTX 1080 FTW
>FTW
>Fuck The World
I see.

>>55197908
They assumed only Ukrainians would be dumb enough to buy them.

As far as this year is concerned, the only card with potential at 4k will be the 1080ti and possibly AMDs flagship 400 series card? I got a 4k monitor as a replacement do to a huge screw up on newgees end when I ordered a 1440 monitor. I basically got a 4k monitor for $250, however my 290x is dying trying to play anything at 4k.

>>55202671
More like Fuck the wallet

>>55203001
Here's a solution don't buy 4k for gaymen, all you are doing is basically spoiling yourself at this point.

>>55203001

Just turn down some of the details settings/AA or whatever, anon, what's wrong with you?

>>55203050
what does watching 720p anime / movies in fullscreen look like in 4k anyway?

>>55203100
I figure I'm do for a new card at some point. I can wait and you're right, I could just turn down some settings. I just wanted to see if a card exists yet that can push 4k games. Maybe next year?

>>55203102
I've always wondered this too. I assume it wouldn't look that much different than watching it on a native resolution monitor.

>>55203176
Looks the same as 1080p on a 65" 4k TV to me.

>>55203214
That's good, right? I was always afraid that 720 and 1080 content would look stretched at 4k.

>>55198187
I bought the 1070 FE because the third party cards cost like $430 for a decent one and I have an ITX build so a blower cooler makes sense here.
>tfw can never post in a guts thread because people will make fun of me for falling for the FE meme
I didn't want to wait months for a model with a plastic blower cooler to come in stock.

1070 or 2x 480 for 1440p gaming?

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So this was posted on the ashes benchmark leaderboard

Looking at 980's with the same cpu puts it 200 points behind the 980. Seems good if thats at stock speed

>>55203325
Fuck dual gpus. Always go with a single card setup.

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>>55203349
Thats the highest 980 single card on the same cpu, has 32gb of ram as opposed to 8gb on the amd test

>>55203382
always go for the lowest result its the only way that we know that you can find a "refrence" card on that site..

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>>55203407
True

>>55203434
but on the other hand we dont really know if the specific 480 is on stock clocks so we just have to assume its oc till we see more scores of it

Given how typically shit the reference coolers are, think we'd see 60-65 degrees average on decent cooling?

>>55203471
well refrence cooler on a oc card is doing a really good job..
https://vid.me/xs9x
the vid was taken down on youtube apparently its a 480 running on 1500mhz

>>55192510
Who are you quoting, buddy?

That's nothing but good news.

>>55203635
H thinks this is /b/ obviously. They shouldnt allow kiddies on here

If the early adapter price is around GTX 970 level

Is it worth it?

>>55197233
You can get used CPU's that are at least twice as fast for the same socket on eBay from chinks with less than 10 bucks

>>55199254
Cheapest 1070 is still at $430, and once that runs out, next is at $480.

>>55204994
I don't think it will run out of stock tho.

People are waiting for the 480 benchmarks then buying a new grapich card.

MSI and Asus sent overclocked 1080's to reviewers for benchmarks, but not to the actual customers who ordered the retail versions based on said benchmarks:

http://www.techpowerup.com/223440/msi-and-asus-send-vga-review-samples-with-higher-clocks-than-retail-cards

>>55190143
First time AMD buyer here (I had a GTX 670 and GTX 960).

What brand should I choose. I used MSI so far on Nvidia, cannot complain

>>55205042
how about you wait for the different cards to be announced?

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>>55196992
Screw that, what happened to XFX

>>55205050
Ain't waiting for Nvidia 1060 for another 5 months sorry. Also, after what they did with the 970, its a joke.

Also, I'm only going to buy the RX 480 if the benchs are true (Altough even if it hits only the 390x levels, I'm still going to be satisfied)

>>55205095
I meant the different versions of the 480. since it seems to have a lot of OC headroom, you should wait to see what kind of performance the brands can squeeze out of the 480

Man, all this shit about the 480 seems to good to be true. I really hope that it's not all bullshit.

Honestly makes me wonder about the 490x more than anything else though. Any news about it or the 490?

>>55205067
I had an xfx 270x that's still going strong in my brother's PC. Their 200 series looked very classy. The new fad for a lot of companies seems to be to PUT VISIBLE SCREWS ON EVERYTHING, though I don't care too much about what the cards look like desu.

>>55205171
Nothing concrete. We know AMD's next high end GPU, Vega, is supposed to use HBM2, at least in its later iterations. Early estimates for HBM2 availability were still in 2017 though while other rumors have suggested AMD wants to put out a higher end chip in October. They could do something similar to what Nvidia has done with the 1080 and use GDDR5x as a stopgap if they feel they can't wait for HMB2 but they've got a bunch of Vega dies ready to go.

>>55205226
>use GDDR5x as a stopgap if they feel they can't wait for HMB2 but they've got a bunch of Vega dies ready to go.
That depends on how Vega was designed in the first place I'd say. If Vega was only ever meant to use HBM2 (we don't know) then it probably doesn't have a GDDR5X controller, so they'd essentially need a different GPU based on Vega that uses GDDR5X instead of HBM2.

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>>55202514
So buy a quiet high quality 140mm fan and strap it on there...way way cheaper than buying a new cooler or new GPU, and your temps will probably drop by 40C idle and 20C load (plus you wont be thermally limited in clockspeed)

Well, with that said, even a $50 used 7770 outperforms that card by leaps and bounds.

>>55203349
>>55203382
Fuckin' A man I really need a new GPU. This 7850 at 1100/1550 just can't cut it for anything coming out this year or next.

>>55203349
Should be similar performance to regular 980 if it overclocks as well as it looks like it will.

https://vid.me/xs9x

72C under load with stock cooler and shitty airflow, we dont know the clocks or voltage though.

>>55200358
No, it doesn't. You need to burn like 10kg of firewood to increase the ambient temps of a 80 sqm floor by like 20 degrees C. That's equivalent to about 30kW of electric heat.

>>55205462
Fuck, I meant 2 degrees.

>>55205462
>80 square meters
That's 860 square feet of space. That's ridiculous, and completely out of the scope of any normal person.

I guarantee you 9/10 people on this board have rooms (or computer rooms) between 130-160 square feet or roughly 13.5 square meter.

And I know, having measured it myself, that my own PC drawing about 450 watts for an hour (plus 35w for monitor and about 220w for receiver + speakers) increases my room's ambient to 10 degrees F or more than the rest of the house.

So in a typical room I am confident in saying that 700w increases the ambient by 10F/5C all else like air flow and controlled temp being equal.

>>55203497
I read it was less than 1400. 13xx or something.

>>55205658
Ah it was 1340 and 2050 for memory.

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-thermal-tests-leak/

Apparently that was as stable as they could get it. Kinda puts a dampener on things.

>>55205679
Actually that was not for the thermal test. The thermal test does not mention if it was OC'd or not. The clocks were from chiphell but they used a shitty third party cooler stuck on from what I recall. It's all a bit of a mess until the NDA lifts so take it all with a pinch of salt.

>>55205654
I was talking about your average floor, not room. Unless you keep the door closed 24/7 (who does that), the heat will eventually spread. Of course my computer room alone also only has 15.5 sqm.

Speakers don't draw 220W. That's the peak amount they can consume. Average is less than a tenth, or they'd blow out your ears in minutes.

Using your PC for an hour will most certainly not increase your room temp by 7C. Walls, ceilings, furniture absorb a lot of heat. It takes an ridiculous amount of energy to heat 44 sqm of walls - that's roughly 11 cubic metres of stone - by a few degrees. And the surface area is more than enough to act as a heatsink without the air increasing more than 2-3C over the wall temps.

>>55205839
>speakers don't draw 220w
My receiver probably idles at 80w (it gets very warm to the touch and is passively cooled by a heatsink larger than most GPU+CPU sinks combined), and having seven speakers plus two active subs draws a lot of power. At -45dB I can almost guarantee the sound system is drawing above 200w total.

Anyways no, I do not have actual measurements of the temperatures, but after coming off of a heavy game session and going into the rest of the house it feels like coming inside to an air conditioned room on a hot day. Keep in mind that a closed room doesn't transmit heat directly to your thermostat, and so that room will always be a lot hotter than the rest of the house.

>>55205898
>My receiver probably idles at 80w (it gets very warm to the touch and is passively cooled by a heatsink larger than most GPU+CPU sinks combined), and having seven speakers plus two active subs draws a lot of power. At -45dB I can almost guarantee the sound system is drawing above 200w total.

My bad, I was thinking about a system rated for 220W.

I don't actually have any thermostats. Maybe your walls are insulated from the inside? If you had normal stone walls, they'd pick up the heat much more quickly.

>>55205947
But I have a thermometer on my computer desk. Gaming for half a day hardly made it go up 2 degrees C above the rext room, at worst.

>>55205947
My receiver is rated for 650w at 7 channel though (all of) my speakers cannot hit that number and I hardly ever turn it up to 0dB reference level,

It's a typical American house, but well thermally insulated from outside heat, I don't know about stone walls and that other stuff.

>>55206008
Well, mine's typically European, built in the 30's.

Maybe that's why AC units are so uncommon here? Not electricity prices, but construction? During hot summer days, with 33C during the day and 20C at night, I'll have hardly more than 26-27C in my southside room.

I want to crossfire two of these bad boys for 1440p gaming. Talk me out of it, /g/.

>>55206184
One is enough. If you feeling unsatisfied in 3-6 months. Sell it, buy Vega.

>>55206307
If the power of the RX480 is around a 980 or 390, I doubt that one card will be enough for 1440p gaming. I might go for the 1070 in the end.

>>55206348
I got a 290X and a OCed 5820K for WQHD 144Hz gaming. I'm generally CPU limited anyway.

>>55190143
So what?
My old GeForce 8800 GTX easily survived temperatures >100°C under load for over 5 years.
You all niggers are way overreacting to "high" temperatures.

>>55206421
>5820k limits you
how ?

>>55206348

According to some sources an overclocked RX480 can even compete with a R9 FuryX.

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I'm retarded. Would the 480 be able to support 3 monitors at once? My current card doesn't

>>55206574
Almost every game on the market is designed to run roughly 60 FPS on an i5, some dips not accounted for.
No matter what you do, the majority of DX9-11 games will not run a stable ~120 FPS on a CPU that doesn't have at least 2.5x higher single thread performance than a i5. And that just doesn't exist.

Turning off dynamic shadows helps a lot, it's the graphics setting with the highest CPU performance drop. Few other setting do anything to help issue, though.

Then of course, about 20% of games from the last 6 years, and more the farther you go back in time will just run stable at that framerate, because CPU requirements are so low, or sometimes, because they're properly optimised and can utilise multi-threading.

>>55206658
Yeah, why would it not?

>>55206693
I am not going to lie to you. I am literally that tech illiterate.

>>55205007
The 1070 I mentioned are already backordered. Even the ones at $480.

>>55206703
You only need to take into consideration how high the total resolution and refresh rates are.

>>55203102
I used to watch anime/toons in 1080 or 720 but with any animation besides some huge budget flick like Pixar or something it's not really noticeable. Now it's all 480-576 typically and takes up barely any space. H.265 becoming the scene norm will likely make the switch to higher res worth it.

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>tfw still can't decide between this or the 1070

>>55206990

You'll end up getting this because Nvidia never has stock of the 1070 and retailers are going to jew you for $500

>>55207265
Probably, but I use Premier a lot and I heard AMD cards don't work well work it.

>>55207503
*with it

>>55192045
72C isn't hot stock, it's not hot period. If a card isn't doing at least 72C it's spinning the fan too fucking fast.

>>55207590
65% fan speed 65 degrees C. The cooler the card is working the longer it will last

>>55190143
I love how AMD isn't even putting numbers in their bullshit scales anymore.

>>55206658
yea it can support up to 6

>>55197908

The Fermi cards were a clusterfuck. It's where the housefire memes came from. They got up to 115 degrees celcius.

>>55210152

My GTX 460 never went above 70c.

Nice meme AMDrone :^)

>>55210228

>my poorfag card runs cooler than these high-end cards did

>>55210243
1.7% yields GF100 fag

>>55210243

The GTX460 was midrange :^)

>>55205067
Fuck man, XFX was so slick

>>55195807
It'll be quicker than you think.

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>>55205067
XFX is still fine, their 380 was just edgier for some reason.

>>55203102

madvr

>>55205462
1056 feet^3
132 feet^2
11x12x8

having played crysis and other demanding games, my room gets noticeable warmer in an hour, hot in 3, and if something like ac isn't on, a sweat box in 5

granted, due to how my room is laid out it doesn't have the best ventilation, i am considering getting some fans instead of the grate.

>>55205839
door closed? have loud people live with you, have people who don't respect privacy, or personal belongings, have pets that if you allow them in will rest on the feet of your chair. have pets who decided your room is where they are going to shit/piss.

so many reason to keep that shit closed apposed to open.

>>55205898
i do have a thermometer probe inside my room, at my pc intake, and outside the window, the thermostat is good enough for the rest of the house. on a bad day my room can be 15-20 F hotter then the rest of the house. the way my room is set up makes it hard to open the window and i believe the biggest difference was when i still had crts and FAR less efficient hardware at about 25F hotter.

>>55203102
4k, at least standard 4k, is 9 times the pixel density than 720, so it will scale wonderfully to 4k, unlike 1080p, you may actually see an increase in visual quality.

1080p also scales up quite nice too, at 4k being 4 times as big.

>>55190143
my radeon 7950 has been quietly staying at 83c under load for years

>>55213511
You live in a closet, dude. That sucks. I'm in a tiny room too, but at least my house has central air.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-RX-480-Is-Going
>Yep, AMD sent over a Radeon RX 480 graphics card for being able to provide launch-day Linux benchmarks next week. That day is 29 June when the embargo expires and the RX 480 cards will begin to hit stores for the $199+ price-tag (or slightly more for the 8GB version).
Neat. This week is going to be long.

Is it wrong I wanna replace my GTX 660 with one of these?

So will it be much better then the R9 380?

>>55214051
Not at all. I was with a 670 until it broke last year and went with a 970 since it was the cheapest offering at the time. If I still had the 670, then I would definitely pick up the RX480.

guys I don't think I can wait for aftermarket cards, on a 7850 that isn't too bad, but I'm getting that upgrade itch bad....should I just chain myself to my desk so I don't risk going to the bank?

>>55214081
It's a 390x/980-lite that can actually overclock well, or it should be all that, if it is, AMD literally won