Debian

Why would I switch from my beloved Arch to a lesser distro?

>>55112090
>uses Arch
At least use Gentoo

>>55112073
because i run os x. if i had to run linux, i'd run debian.

Because I'm using stretch you dumb cunt

>>55112073
Because I am

>>55112147
>>55112158
Good lads

debian jessie?

more like plebian ASSie

lmao

>>55112073
Because xorg-server is obsolete\deprecated/legacy shit

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>>55112073
But I am!

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>>55112212

>>55112218
>root

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>>55112207

Because I'm using sid.

>>55112218
what wm

>>55112253
Xfce you fucking retard

>>55112073
i'd still be using debian if it didn't use systemd desu

>>55112158
Me too breh

I like arch better
except when I want to run steam, it just never works

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>>55112073
I am, it's comfy as fuck

>>55112286
fuck that desktop is so beautiful

>>55112073
Where do I find GTK themes that don't suck?

>>55112300
It's more fucking disgusting than your mother are you blind?

>>55112232
I wouldn't run Weston right now outside a VM, but I'm glad there are people like you to use it as it standardizes more.

>>55112302
xfce look or gnome look, just look around

>>55112073
I prefer Ubuntu, Debian is designed for use with servers

How do you deal with all the old as fuck packages? I'm using testing because some shit is like 2 years old

outdated

>>55112360
>How do you deal with all the old as fuck packages?
By having a stable system

>>55112335
See you say that like it's possible to find even half-decent themes on those sites. They're full to the brim with utter tripe, even the stuff that's highly rated / downloaded is shit.

Starting to think Numix is the only one worth using and I'm sick of the sight of it.

>>55112378
If you value stability why use noobian instead of god tier CentOS?

>>55112302
Make your own, that's what I do.

Find a template theme >>55112335 and edit the .svg or .bmp files in GIMP or some other editor.

Takes time, but so much worth it.

>>55112397
Because I don't want to use CentOS

>>55112397
>god tier
>crashes more than your grandfather driving while drunk and being sucked off by a cheap hooker

>>55112319
stay mad xd

>>55112489
I ain't even mad bruh

How do I into Debian without pussying back to Windows when I run into shit like wonky display management and touchpad bs

>>55112381
I've looked many times on those shit sites for themes. Numix is irreplaceable.

>>55112447
>crashes
Not even once. When I was a noob, I too used noobian. Then I grew up and realized that RHEL/CentOS is how God intended computing.

>>55112556
TempleOS is how God wanted people to use computers.

>>55112517
Use a Debian fork rather than pure Debian

>>55112300
Hello Jack

>>55112556
Is everything in the repos horrendously out of date? Do you use rpmfusion? What is so good about it, apart from stability?

>>55112073
But I am

Linux shinobu 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u2 (2016-01-02) i686 GNU/Linux

>>55112593
Noice

>>55112593
>3.16
Get with the times, gramps

>>55112641
>all the debian jessie builds are 3.16
>only tell me to get with the times

>>55112286
good music choi-
>mf doom
wtf every fucking time stop liking that shit

>>55112741
back to >>/mu/65696601 with you

DOOM is top10 DOA

>>55112073
It's a shit and Gentoo master race.

Because OpenBSD is a very comfy Unix.

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>>55112073
I'm using it though

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>>55112073
Cause I'm using superior Windows 10 with all telemetry enabled

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>>55112073
Isn't Ubuntu better than Debian?

>>55113231
why do i like mpc so much?

>>55112073
Debain is literally the worst distro there is for desktops.Proof me wrong.

>>55113231
Takes huge black what?

>>55113268
This.Debian is cancer on the ass of a genital wart.

>>55113262
Because it's really that good.

>>55113287
Jellybean,from the candy dish of an unsuspecting,interacial couple.

>>55113287
Shit.

>>55113287
Eye.

>>55113303
>>55113268
>>55113319
Samefag

>>55112073
cause i'm on arch
but if I wanted a rock solid desktop (i'm fine with fixing shit atm) i'd use debian

>>55113363
Not him, but you'd be wrong twice.

>>55113268
You're not wrong. Debian is a brilliant server distro that is underutilized in the desktop environment.

>>55113390
Three people that don't know to use a space after a period or comma? I don't think so

>>55112073
But I do anon

>>55113404
Neat detective skills.I'm >>55113319
on phone and do it out of laziness.Also,install Gentoo.

>>55112970
this

I think Windows is the best OS for a prosumer such as myself.

>>55113452
>install Gentoo
But I am

>>55112970
>>55113750
these

>>55112232
cyka vodka

>>55113762
Great.Enjoy.

>>55112269
It almost makes me want to put in arch

>>55113909
which also uses systemd now

>>55112073
I am.

>>55112212
I don't need any X on a server that don't have any screen

>>55112218
Can I get that wallpaper please ?

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>>55114203

>>55112447
I got servers runnig on centos with an uptime of 99.99 for more then 4 years what the fuck are you on?

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>>55114236
centos rules

>>55112591
If you want an updated system just go with Fedora, Centos is for servers.

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>>55113177
>tor browser
>windows
DO you want to be spied on or not?

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Because I'm running Debian Stretch

> not running devuan

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I like my Trisquel setup just fine.

I'm too lazy to switch from Windows. I don't want to learn something new.

>>55114712
My idol

>>55114712
I said the opposite when I went to GNU/Linux.

>>55114712
>>55114734
>Being in a tech board
>>>/v/

>>55112073
Lubuntu is better.

>>55114233
Post the full resolution wallpaper please

>>55114802
I don't play video games. I mostly browse around and watch anime. Occasionally I'll boot up a Touhou game. Lunatic makes me angry, though.

>>55112073
Because i'm comfy right now on arch and kubuntu. Nice setup you have there tho.

>>55114866
it's tiled you dumb shit

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>>55112073

I don't care what I use as long as I can use i3. That is my only requirement to use a distro.

>>55114802
>tech is limited to Linux discussion only

>>55112073
>1600x900
>2520m
t420 confirmed, buy an quad i7 anon

>>55114936
>760, and a 6850
you doing KVM pci-e pass through?
work any good?

>>55114969
No, your gaymer mousepad is not technology

>>55114981
It sure isn't :)

>>55114969
Nobody ever said that. All he's saying is that Windows users don't belong on a tech board, which is true.

>>55112073
>runs hot on chinkpads
>maintained by a crew of retards
>dated, meme packages and package manager

It's good for a server but shit for a desktop.

>>55112073
>Kernel 3.16

No thanks I'll stick with my bleeding edge Arch.

>>55115132
Windows users do belong here.

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>>55112073
Ubuntu is better.

>>55115268
Not in the slightest. This is a place for people who know technology, those sorts of people don't use Windows.

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>>55115268
No, you belong on /v/ with the other children.

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Oh but I am

>>55114980
Yup that's what I'm doing. It works very good in terms of performance, but there seems to be some problems resetting the amd card after the windows vm shuts down, so i essentially either have to keep it on all the time or reboot my computer every time i want to boot it again.
This might be a problem with this card though, I don't know. It also crashes libvirt so i suggest you don't do important things while playing with passthrough.

>>55115422
damn the crashing sucks, I have a 270x I was going to try to pass through some day
but every time I look at the KVM wiki's on configuring that, I just reboot into my gaymen OS
and run it native.

>>55112286
>memegrime

>>55112073
>Why aren't you using Debian jessie, /g/?
Because I enjoy not having 2-year old packages

>>55115306
>>55115319
I respectfully disagree.

>>55115449
It's quite painful to set up i will admit, I was ripping my hair out for a night until I got it working.
the problem is that there are a lot of OS specific things in most documentation on how to do it. OS specific as in it differs from distro to distro.
I did it because I rarely play windows games and I just want to be able to do it those few times I do. and leaving all my things behind complicates things a lot. just my personal experience. i leave my computer on for days, weeks, months at a time if i have no reason to reboot so sometimes there is a ton of half finished stuff going on.

>>55115473
Enjoy your unstable system.

>>55115478
A Winbabby would say such a thing.

>>55115497
I actually use GNU/Linux.

>>55115560
Sure thing kid

>>55115571
Thanks.

>>55115268
No they don't.

>>55115582
Okay, well I say they do.

>>55115590
You say wrong

>>55115306
I use Linux on everything personally, but I disagree.
I think there are people who know technology on Windows, they just know a different area than most Linux users.
The guys shilling for windows or os x for various reasons obviously don't know shit, though. You use the tool that performs the job the best in any situation.
Windows is usually better in an office environment, Linux is usually better for advanced programming and servers, OS X is usually better for enjoying cinnamon latte vegan gluten free starbucks coffee.

>>55115590
3 to 1 kid. Pack up your winshit and go home.

>>55115596
>wants to be taken seriously
>spouts shitty memes

>>55115611
i don't care how you take it
but i like to see i hit a nerve kek

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But i am

>>55115632
>someone disagreeing means you've deeply upset them
Are you fucking twelve?

>>55115632
5edgy7me

>>55115611
>>55115632
but in the end what im saying has some truth to it, OS X and macs in general are garbage in a professional environment
shitty deals with apple, worse software support than windows and worse at basically everything linux is good at
but hey you might as well tell me a reason to use apple in a professional environment since you're clearly very experienced in the field
>inb4 people who are just too dumb for windows

>>55115666
You're just showing how little you know

>>55115644
no, but i am drunk

>>55115666
>but hey you might as well tell me a reason to use apple in a professional environment
>>55115691
>nothing

about as much as i expected from an apple fanboy

>>55115595
That's your opinion

>>55115602
No.

>>55112073
Because I'm not that tech literate, so Ubuntu is fine for me.

>>55115723
Are you being sarcastic?

>>55115707
OS X's got commercial application support more on par with Windows than Linux and a Unix base (not just certified but a direct BSD descendant). It's like a middleground of the pros of Windows and Linux.

I'm using gentoo

>>55112073
>not using the grsec kernel from backports

pleb

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>>55115714
>no argument
>no explanation
>only replies with a childish "no" as if I'm a parent saying to get ready for bedtime
Kek

>>55115736
all right, two questions
in what situation is this beneficial as opposed to having Linux servers with power and Windows clients (as an example)?
how is my company going to make money off of selling apple products in those 0.0001% cases where it might be beneficial if what you say actually applies in the real world?

>>55115734
No, I'm serious. From what I've seen/heard Debian requires a bit more set up than Ubuntu.

>>55115776
you're right about that
sincerely,
debian user

>>55115775
>in what situation is this beneficial as opposed to having Linux servers with power and Windows clients (as an example)?
You don't have to use Windows.

>>55115767
I'm not required to explain myself to a troll.

>>55115801
note that im talking about a business situation.
i don't care how you set things up at home, but if you have 500 employees you would most likely prefer to have active directory over some gimped os x system that requires apple IDs and app store for system updates

>>55115776
biggest difference is debian has a scary text based installer, and won't install a graphical driver helper or update manager by default

>>55115776
Debian, like Ubuntu has a graphical installer. The only problem you may have is if you're using a wireless connection instead of wired.

>>55115830
>note that im talking about a business situation.
I'm not. Use whatever the fuck you find best for your shitty business.

>>55113021
Your buttons are minesweeper tier. Also

>1366x768

>>55115851
>I'm not.
then why reply in the first place?
>shitty business
NEET anti-capitalist or do you have a solid OS X alternative to AD?
If so please tell me more...

>>55115887
Because we weren't talking about for business use, you just pulled some shitty hypothetical out of your ass.
>NEET anti-capitalist or do you have a solid OS X alternative to AD
Neither was my reason, I'm just assuming it's shitty because your dumb ass is in charge. But I'm almost positive OS X Server has an AD alternative.

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>>55115821
>troll
No, just an average /g/ neckbeard who looks down on windows users that post here. Without the millions of stupid kids like you running winblows for gayming, microsoft would shrivel and die like it should have long ago. Windows is for plebs. You are a pleb. Oh wow, would you look at how those puzzle pieces fit...

>>55115924
>>but hey you might as well tell me a reason to use apple in a professional environment
I said that and you replied to it, or someone else did and you hijacked their conversation
>Neither was my reason, I'm just assuming it's shitty because your dumb ass is in charge.
who's talking? liberal arts major? what do you do for a living?

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But I am anon :^)

>>55115957
>I said that and you replied to it
Like I'm going to bother reading a troll's entire paragraph of bullshit.
>who's talking? liberal arts major? what do you do for a living?
Irrelevant.

>>55112073
Because I'm on my phone

>>55115989
>Irrelevant
not really, you're claiming you know better about something but you're not really giving me any reason you would know better

>>55112286
do something about the i3bar, it looks like shit.

>>55115954
Calm down.

>>55116001
I never claimed I knew better, you've just shown enough retardation itt to make a safe assumption that you'd do a poor job.

>>55115978
Post wallpaper please.

>>55116013
thankfully im doing a good job, have happy customers and make good money
i like how you went from having some sort of a point to not having any point at all though

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>>55116026
I love it too

>>55116043
>makes the argument about himself
>makes fun of the other person for still replying
What kind of fucking moron are you? I'm done.

>>55116056
Post the full resolution wallpaper please

>>55116075
>What kind of fucking moron are you? I'm done.
the kind of moron that is bored and drunk :^)

>>55116056
Can you post a 1920x1080 resolution version

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why don't you two faggots just fuck ?

>>55112073
Unstable isn't actually unstable you dingdong

>>55116056
What is this?! A resolution for ants! xD

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>>55116076
When you're setting the wallpaper you just have to put it in repeat mode or tile or whatever it is called.

>>55112073
The software I enjoy using does not run natively on it.

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>>55116090
>>55116076
here you lazy fucks took me literally 1 minute

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>>55112073
Because I use Debian testing.
>tfw 4.6 kernel

>>55115992
>he doesn't have armhf debian on his phone

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>>55112147
stretch smells like arse. Stop being stupid and go back to jessie you stupid faggot.

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>>55116137
>there are people on /g/ that don't know you can set wallpaper to repeat itself

>>55116172
i understand very well but i had 1 minute to spare for these retards

>>55116137
Why would you crop the wallpaper from 1080p to 200p

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>>55116011
>implying I'd be worked up over a conversation with a winbaby
Don't flatter yourself.

>>55116189
im not the guy who posted it, i just fucking tiled it for you using gimp

>>55116180
I was memeing ya anon-kun:
>>55114866

>>55116190
I've already explained to you I don't use Windows.

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this thread lacks backports.

>>55116224
How do you have that kernel version on Jessie

>>55116289
backports.debian.org

>>55116307
So once I add the backport repo so the sources and 'apt ugrade' the newer linux version will be installed

>>55116307
impossible, all debian packages are 6 trillion years old

Why should I use Debian?

>>55116224
>>55116307
>frankenDebian
Absolute madman.

>>55116324
no you will have to install manually
apt-get install linux-image-4.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64

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>>55112073
Because I switched from debian jessie to opensnooze

yast is pretty comfy

>>55116334
The only reason it isn't accepted by RMS is because they have the option of non-free repos. Debian is as free as it gets.
It can be bleeding edge with Sid if you're a madman, or up to date with Testing.
Ubuntu is so popular right now, that it's better to chose the mother of all Debian based distros for shit like gaymes.
Not really a reason, but their logo is one of the best.

>>55116356
Thanks a ton lad, download now

>>55116390
I'm pretty bad at computers.

>>55116351
That's not frankendebian. Frankendebian would be enabling the testing repos

>>55116990
>Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!
Ok, I concede. That's actually reassuring. I thought about using Debian on a server, but its official kernel does not support Maxwell out of the box.

I used Debian for close to six years but wanted to get away from apt-get, Systemd and other bloatware

I've installed TAILS on an old Macbook. Do I get an award?

>>55117269
If there was an award for being a dumbass you'd at least be a contendor

>>55117295
lol

>>55117295
How's it different to being a contender?

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>>55114233
>>55114866
What think

>>55117317
Looks like shit.
Notice how my screen only has like 3x3 repetitions.

>>55117316
As a contender you compete for the award.

>>55112073
because it's outdated as shit.
>stable
yeah right your software is so old nothing works.

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>>55117333
You just have a shitty small screen tho
You can just crop it to fit your shitty resolution
I also have this

>>55117364
Retarded Arch user.

>not using Kali instead

>>55117371
I use gentoo with testing repos. If I wanted to use a systemcuck distro I'd use openSUSE

>>55116224
>use old as shit distro
>backport all the packages
debian users, everybody

>>55117377
>being this edgy
>look ma i got hacking tools with my distro!

>>55117385
>backport all the packages
Erm no? Just backport a current kernel.

>>55116137
>1 minute
took me 5 seconds

convert -size 1920x1080 tile:https://i.4cdn.org/g/1466128645867.png tiled.png

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>>55116142
Hello fellow Tangoist

>>55115491
>debian users ACTUALLY believe not updating somehow means more stability
In my experience, people using years-old packages run into more problems than people using fully patched and up-to-date software.

The amount of bug reports we get due to random crap breaking in people's 2-year old ffmpeg and 1-year old mpv versions is astonishing. Software isn't designed to bit rot.

>>55117377
>not using Kali instead

Why would anyone actually install kali?

>>55117429
Your pic is throwing me off. I feel like I'm watching Windows.

>>55117451
It is Windows 7
I know this is a Dedian thread, but I respect that OS as well.

>>55117398
Right. And a current ffmpeg. And mpv. And ytdl. And x264. And weechat. And vim. And firefox. And ghc. And gcc. And rtorrent. And imagemag-- ah fuck it, I'll just switch to gentoo.

^- this was pretty much my experience using debian

>>55117458
Ah, ok. The file manager was the thing that threw me off the most.

>>55112073
Because my computer isn't a server. I use Sid.

>>55117484
It is Explorer with Clover wrapped around it.

>>55112073
but i am O.o

>>55117531
>.>
<.<
owO

>>55117500
I still don't know if the madokami IRC was trolling or not when they said they were running Debian Sid. Nobody seemed to bat an eye in the chat.

>>55112073
Old software in repos. I need newer shit so I Arch

i'm running fedora cause i can't run debian , nothing work .
Graphical gangbang and so..

Debian versus Ubuntu?

>>55112073
I am

>>55117377
bloat

>>55117593
ubuntu is based on debian, so

>>55112073
How do I rice up windows to look like this?

>>55117958
By installing Linux

Does debian offer full disk encryption in the installer?

Still using Wheezy after all these years.

Why upgrade?

>>55119439
Rebellin does

>>55119459
literally what is that

>>55119473
the Poo in Linux
(i only use it because the font rendering is top-tier)
https://therebellin.com

>>55119439
Yes.

>>55116371
42.1? How did this happen? Wasnt the last one like 13.2? Or is this tumbleweed magic?

>>55116371
No one uses SUSE because they're afraid of mispronouncing it. Even Novell employees get it wrong.

>>55120052
They took notes from Google and Mozilla's version numbering

>>55119439
>he needs his installer to offer full disk encryption for him

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>>55113231
Cause i Have something better

Because I don't like having to download drivers separately before installing my OS, ever.

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Thoughts on the Linux Mint Debian Version?

i'm a normie

>>55120917
I don't like Mint because it doesn't stand on its own.

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>>55120926
r8 h8t msauturbate

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>>55112073
>Using a server OS for a desktop

>>55120972
Ubuntu LTS is the best bistro for getting stuff done. You can go from blank SSD to productive in less than ten minutes if you can get your dotfiles there efficiently.

>>55120987

>Its only a server OS
Its whatever you want it to be dingus.

>>55112073
Maybe because i use it in my server and in my laptop?

>ubuntu is too mainstream for me so I'm going to use an older, inferior version of it

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdddddd

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>>55120987
>He can't configure his OS

> Linux 3.16

Thats why.

> Using obsolete kernel and utilities

Debifags will defend this

>>55112073
Because Void is better

>>55121249
Void of packages? jej

>>55120972
>Linux
>Filezilla
What is your excuse?

>>55121261
>tfw can't use a compiler

>>55121282
Classic. Go compile this and post results

https://github.com/ktechlab/ktechlab

>>55121261
Better than having packages that have been thoroughly raped (patched) and compiled with retarded options by a bunch of unpaid autists

Remember when debian accidentally openssl's RNG?

>>55121277
FTPing into client's ancient GoDaddy CentOS 4.9 production server

>>55121295
I probably could but I'm not building your shit for you

Plus I'm happy with VIM + avr-gcc + avrdude and don't need no stinkin' IDE

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>>55121234
>3.16
Too new.

>>55121339
No you can't LMAO

>>55121332
>Against having compiled packages
>Doesn't use source based distro
Edgy

>>55121371
It's fine when your packages are compiled by someone who isn't a debian tard.

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>>55121349
>He ran it as root

>>55120052
42.1 leap is now based off SLES so it'll hopefully be more stable.

Dunno what the older versions were based on.

>>55115165
Can you list some of the beneficial kernel changes you have?

>>55121549
How about supporting hardwares that are not few years old?

>>55121566
So, nothing?

>>55121575
Yeah, it's called the display managers' "ability to not to crash upon boot"

>>55121619
>display manager
What is this thing and why do I have no issues with my Debian Jessie machine?

>>55121904
Debian stable crashes with no exception in my 2015 laptop.

>>55121932
Get a decent laptop

>>55122035
LMAO you are new aren't you? How is Linux?

>>55121932
What crashes? Debian isn't a program.

>>55122100
Learn to read a thread

>>55121932
"Unstable" would probably be more stable on that.

>>55122168
I guess so. I set up ubuntu LTS anyway, I don't want to reboot my server. I'd still prefer debian stable on my server though.

Also I am happy with Arch being the my main OS

>There are 100 posters in this thread.
>mod+f
>systemd
>3 results
wow

>>55122202
What's wrong?

>>55115281
That is fucking ugly mate

>>55115639
What's that app?

>>55112073
Principal reason is the old as hell packages.
>muh stability
If you have a little idea of what you're doing you shouldn't have problems.

Great for starters and servers though.

>>55120432
Why wouldn't you encrypt your drive during installation? Do you enjoy making things harder on yourself?

>>55123585
That kind of user needs their computer to require endless manual configuration to distract them from the fact they don't actually do anything with it.

My ex uses Debian, she says it's pretty comfy.

>>55112073
Broken piece of shit, can't even get polkit to work for shit. Not as many packages as arch, old as fuck packages, relies on systemd by default though thanks to devuan this can be addressed. Nazi-tier with licenses.

Overal, manjaro is just superior in every single way.
Of course, the best distro by far will always be Gentoo though.

>>55123620
Does her boyfriend Jamal also use it?

>>55116356
There's a CVE up for kernel versions under 4.6. You should update.

>>55119439
Yes.

>>55112518
A R C
R R
C C

>>55122221
Systemd

>>55114303
your fonts look like smegma

>>55112073
ARCH !

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>>55123670
Not sure. She might even be watching this thread as she used to come to the drawthreads a lot and maybe she lurks on other boards, idk.

>>55112073
Because every linux distro is literally exactly the same if you know what you're doing.

>>55112716
the civilized world is on 4.6+

>>55123729
Wait... is this an IRL gf or just some dude you met online?

>>55123731
t. inbred

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>>55123741

>>55112354
If that were the case, why would it company with desktop oriented packages selected by default in the netinstall disc?

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>>55112073
because i'm using a much better OS for desktop computing.

Which would /g/ rec for installing on a VM to practice server stuff?

>>55123939
That's not a 16:10 resolution. It's 16:9 with the sides cut off.

>>55123953
Anything. VirtualBox now has a button to background it, so you can pretend it's not even running on the same machine.

>>55112517
What kind of chink laptop are you using that you still get problems with the touchpad? Every laptop I've installed Debian on has had that working out of the box.

>>55112517
Install Manjaro

>>55113231
[cuck joke]
But seriously downloading that shit just for one kek wasn't worth it family

>>55120972
>filename

>>55112232
cyka blyat vodka putin davai davai rush b

I use Manjaro because it's easy to install, but has most of the features that Arch does, such as the AUR. I use Debian for server stuff tho.
>inb4 Manjaro is just easy arch.

>>55126071
Manjaro is easy arch with firmware out of the box and actually stable packages.

>>55126071
>>55126165
>mangina

>>55126179
Arch in many respects for me is a waste of time. I like Arch, don't get me wrong. But, it's just a bit of a problem distro for me. Pacman on vanilla arch messes up .conf files every now and then. I have more to do then fix my computer.

>>55126321
Weird, pacman has never messed up for me.

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>>55123736
>>55112716
>>55112641

Not the scientific community, the stock market, nor any other mission critical super computer would dare use any kernel that is version 4.1+
Something as critical as the Kernel needs to be really well tested for 2+ years to confirm solid reliability.

>>55126340
Different experiences I guess. But Arch is pretty comfy, it's just not my type.