Where were you when Nvidya was kill?

Placing an order for an RX 480.

Aren't you counting your chickens a bit early tho? WCCFtech doesn't have the greatest track record for accurate leaks.

>>55091913
>tfw sold my 380 before the prices gets fucked up

If I'm planning to play on 1080p (144hz) will 4GB be enough?

>how do you want your market share pham?

Just fuck my shit up

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>In b4 'why is Ruby crying?'
She is mourning Nvidia's passing.

But on a brighter note...

"DING! DONG! THE WITCH IS DEAD!"

>>55091969
Yes

>>55091913
Can I pair my Sapphire 290 with a 480 when Async compute drops?
If not, 490 when?

>bragging about having low performance
did AMD just give up trying to compete?

>>55092019
Only in DX12 games

>>55091913
I am building a mini-itx PC
want to use the rx480 if they are around 200€
Will my i3-6100 bottle neck on the rx480?

>tfw now I'll have money for both 1080p monitor and a rx 470/480

I fucking love AMD, truly the 3rd worlders best friend.

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>>55092093
can someone update this pic?

>>55092110
Isn't the 390 on par with 980 these days?

>>55092110
Impossible since AMD's Oberklasse is the RX 480 for 200€ while Nvidia's Mittelklasse is the GTX 1070 for 500€.

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>tfw found my new card

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THANKS BASED AMD

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>People thinking a shitty cheap midrange card is going to somehow be incredibly powerful based off of some chink's fake benchmarks
>People thinking AMD uses space magic to make their cards cheap when in reality its because they have major cutbacks on quality

AMDfags just set themselves up for dissappointment

>>55092246
Nobody is expecting it to be a 1070/1080 or even a 908Ti killer. We are being realistic here. But look at the facts. Most gamers game at 1080. 2K is a stopgap. 4K is not mature or affordable enough yet.

The sweet spot for gaming is still 1080 and less than $300 dollar mark. Just because you represent the 0.0005% of elitist faggots does not make you right.

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>>55092246

>>55092246
>major cutbacks on quality
>nvidia starts gimping current overpriced lineup within a year, like every year
>Meanwhile AMD cards gain performance over the course of 2+ years

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>>55091913
>comparing a 28nm card to a 14nm card

>>55092335
Nvidiots keep spouting crap that the 480 is 150w. If they had put the 1070 there I would have circled that instead. I'm just highlighting the fact that the 480 does not use 150w during gaming like all the shills keep saying.

>>55092372
>Pretending power consumption is a major issue.

>>55092394
Twice as much power consumption means your coolers have to rotate four times as fast which means your PC makes sixteen times as much noise.

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>>55092085
yeah pretty much. they dont give a fuck about the high end my man

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>>55091936
They don't but every RX480 leak has been on point

>>55092496
and why should they? 85% of the market is in the 100-300$ range. gloating about your 700+$ GPU is pointless. 1080 goy can't even do constant 60FPS 4K and it's overkill for 1080. But enjoy your overpriced 2K stopgap.

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>AMDcucks literally being proud of being poor

can't make this shit up

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>>55092758
>mfw just realizing Nvidia is the Apple of GPUs
They have so many people brainwashed with their shit. Did it start with the >enthusiast Titan?

>>55092784
No it started with actually having drivers for Linux

>>55092758
in my shithole country the gtx 1070 is priced at 1199$ import tax quotas and i'll buy it in a hard beat if i even get it for 600 dollars a measly rinky gtx 1070, so i opt for amd

>>55092784
>thread is full of fanboys for fucking GPU companies

this is just sad... I buy whatever is the best price/performance, though usually I try to support AMD because Nvidia has a monopoly, this time around I've bought a 1070(going from 280)

Nvidia already discontinued GTX 980 and GTX 970 back in April and GTX 1070 $379 moved the performance bar high up

>>55092814
Holy shit the hypocrisy
AMD's cards haven't been released yet but you say you buy based on best price to performance?
Wait to compare all the options faggot
Then choose your 1070

>>55091913
Have they fucking decided on whether it'll have 4gb or 8gb of vram?

>>55092309
Bull fucking shit. People here have been saying it's a 1070 killer or at least comparing it to the 1070 a lot here.

>>55092324
If the gimping meme is true, why don't people get better performance when they install older drivers?

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>tfw finally found the GFX card for my XTREME GAMING MACHINE XD

Thank you AMD, Thank you. i can now play overmeme.

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>>55092814
>...
Nigga please.
I'm running the meme card on my system, AMD drivers are still far behind in Lincuck and I don't have the hardware capable of a GPU passthrough. Any kind of fanaticism is bad, but Nvidia is just a shady company that is pushing development back with their closed source bullshit like Gameworks, gsync, and sneaky practices.

>this time around I've bought a 1070
Why would you do that? Are you on high refresh 1440p? If not, then there's no reason to buy such a card. I mean, it's very tempting, but the performance just isn't there.
I wouldn't mind going for a >best price/performance card, but this is different. Besides, even if the RX480 is in the range of the 970 and 390, it would still be a better value card than the 1070.

>>55092784
The people responsible for Zen (Jim Keller) and Polaris (Raja Koduri) are both ex-Apple employees. AMD supports very closed down systems like Windows (they had a Microsoft guy give a Windows 10 presentation at the Polaris reveal...), while Nvidia has better support for Linux. I don't get why /g/ likes AMD so much besides offering cheap products.

>>55092877
It's going to have 2GB

>>55092894
You're an idiot, they don't gimp old cards they just no longer support them in driver updates.

Which means after a year if compatibility issues come up they won't be fixed in a driver update

Multiple issues will pile up with newer games or older games getting updates but Nvidia won't make changes to the driver to improve performance.

>>55092878
Maybe it will be when overclocked. Yes I know the 1070 will be faster when it is overclocked but the difference is in the cost per fps. If a 480 gets 60 fps and a 1070 gets 65 fps (made up BS numbers just to give an example) when both are OC'd then the cost difference makes the 480 the more worthy choice.

>>55092949
So you're saying they don't gimp them, their support for older cards just isn't fantastic. Buy my 700 series GPU has gotten updates and plays new games just fine, I've never had driver issues.

>>55092937
4/8 gets rounded to 1/2, meaning it'll have 0.5GB VRAM.

>2016
>paying $200 for a GPU with only 512MB of VRAM
Good AMD goys

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>>55091913
>tfw this is the best moment to upgrade the anemic card in my mac pro
I'm waiting the flash rom on netkas forums only. OSX appears to have support for RX 480.

>>55092976
Stop projecting this hard, NVIDIA shill.

>>55092134
probably bait, but those are performance tiers

>>55092877
4GB and 8Gb options. You choose.

>>55092999
How much VRAM does it have then?

>>55092324
>nvidia starts gimping current overpriced lineup within a year, like every year
>Meanwhile AMD cards gain performance over the course of 2+ years
How come no AMDfag has EVER posted ANY benchmarks confirming either of those?

>>55092319
Dank

>>55092930
>ex-Apple employees
This means shit. Keller has worked with AMD multiple times prior to that.

>AMD supports very closed down systems like Windows (they had a Microsoft guy give a Windows 10 presentation at the Polaris reveal...)
I can't really refute that. AMD just really wants people to pick up DX12 since their cards work well with them. All the driver magic from Nvidia isn't that useful in there.

>while Nvidia has better support for Linux
Also true, but they are very closed about it on an ecosystem where being open source is preferable. Their open source drivers are shit since they won't cooperate with the nouveau devs. They're giving them signed blobs, completely going against the point of nouveau. AMDGPU is still behind, but it's open source. I don't know how the changes from the 4.7 kernel and above will fare, but it's apparently huge and it supports Polaris from the getgo. At least they're trying.

>I don't get why /g/ likes AMD
There are a lot of reasons why. I've already typed some of them. To add, there's GPUopen, the antithesis of Gameworks; freesync; Mantle for Vulkan; etc. I can't say anything concrete about Zen, but I'm really hoping it gives Intel a wakeup call, Broadwell-E is an embarrassment.

>>55093028
Of course the announced one :^)

>>55092973
I'm glad they play just find anon
But something playing just fine is subjective.
Also doesn't prove there isn't a performance degrade at all.

If you wanna btfo /g/
Compare your card to a new series card but with the same specs
For example something along the lines of 760 vs 950?

See how they compare, new and old games.
I remember checking up on the 760 which has a wider memory bus than the 960 and should be within 10%-15% performance yet the 960 was still crushing in benchmarks for some reason.

>>55093037
Because it's a lie

>my meme card is almost two years old
>AMD fans now getting excited over a card that's only a little faster than that
I guess what they say about poor NEETs on this board is true

>>55093079
Different architecture tard

>>55092894
because it´s literally a meme
the reason people throw it around is because there are no active improvements like in newer cards for new games

>>55093079
But cards from different generations don't have the exact same specs unless it's just a rebrand.

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>nvidia would never gimp, goyim!

It doesn't matter if they're gimped or just stop getting updates, AMD still ages better.

>"Bububu we spent enough to go to mars"

Nice to see Nvidias greed finally paying off.

>>55093235
Shit drivers improving after a whole 2 years is a good thing

>>55093235
>releasing cards with shitty drivers and them improving them years later is a feature
Does anyone buy AMD based on merit? Or is it all people like you coming up with excuses because muh Jews?
https://youtu.be/dh9Akfu90Gs

>>55093350
>>55093415
Except the 200 series was priced competitively for how it performed *back then*. 290x owners basically got a free upgrade

>>55093446
They still had to deal with shitty drivers.

>>55092937
what are you talking about it's gonna have 512mb

>>55093466
But the "shitty" part in "shitty drivers" is completely orthogonal to the benchmarked performance.
Do you just regurgitate memes all fucking day?

>>55091913
I already talked to my local pc part shop to give me a call when they get it.
Also cant wait for zen its about a time for an upgrade

>>55091969
Unless you're using a lot of texture mods or something, 4GB is enough.

>>55092723
The only reason high end matters much is because retards look at who has the fastest card, and then assume that brand is better across the board. Just look at last gen, where AMD sales sucked despite being either equal or better in every price point except the super high-end stuff because the fury x was garbage.

>>55093627
I'm sorry, I find it hard to take you seriously enough to respond with non meme answers when you think taking several years to get the performance you should get at launch is a feature.

>>55093813
>everyone buys cards at launch day
>AMD cards are automatically slower from the start

You sound pretty retarded.

>>55093843
Your own image shows that most AMD cards are slower at launch though.

>>55092246
>nvidiot in denial cannot accept that AMD is going to dominate the middle to low end GPU market i.e majority of the market and pulls desperate excuses out his ass

>>55093882
What makes you think that? Yeah, they'll put out cards that have better performance to price than anything nVidia has to offer, but it's been that way for years, and they still can't get their market share to go up. Why would you think that will change now?

>>55093984
This guy has the sad truth of AMD
Price to performance isn't enough anymore you need a massive marketing dpartment

>>55093984
AMD hasn't had this opportunity in ages. The 7000 series was great, but so was Kepler and since Nvidia had upped their marketting, they still couldn't catch up. Nvidia released the 750Ti and pretty much dominated the low tier market with that one card. People also bought the 960 later despite the 380 being a better choice. Now they don't have a choice. Polaris is free of competition until Nvidia decides to throw their 1060 out and by the looks of it, it isn't anytime soon considering the shit stock of the current Pascal GPUs.

>>55093882
It would be nice if AMD just stuck to the low-mid and NVidia just stuck to the mid-high tier. NVidia makes most of their money from other places now anyways so it wouldn't be a massive loss to let AMD take the lower end

>>55094061
>people also bought the 960 later despite the 380 being a better choice

And this is what is going to happen with the 1060.

Atleast AMD got a head start on the release of their card.

>>55092784
>mfw just realizing Nvidia is the Apple of GPUs

But Apple uses AMD GPUs. That's 2deep4me

>>55094140
You think the average Apple user even knows about GPUs?

>>55094099

isn't it always like that?

Nvidia high tier card always the best at being less than 15% higher performance than AMD card while being 30% pricier?
Apple did this with phone market, I don't see anything wrong with that

>>55094161
>This
I have had to explain what a GPU is to many younger Apple fanboys who just assumed computers were like fucking magic

>>55094061
>Polaris is free of competition
nVidia will slash prices on the 900 series sooner or later. Lowering the prices on those cards has been long overdue anyways. Even if they don't, how long do you really think it's going to take for the 1060 to come out? Even if it takes another three months, AMD won't just magically take all of the <300$ GPU market share from nVidia.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see nVidia actually get some real competition sometime, but I don't think that releasing a single card is going to make a considerable amount of people switch over.

>>55093878
>buy AMD
>slightly slower at launch
>ends up becoming 2x as powerful over time

>buy nvidia
>slightly faster at launch
>ends up being eclipsed by AMD cards 2 tiers down

Yeah, I know a good investment when I see one.
Protip: it's not the one that ends up being comparatively shit after a couple years.

>>55094139
>And this is what is going to happen with the 1060.
AMD is going to have a huge headstart in a season where some even upgrade for Summer, at least from what Ive experienced with others the last 3 years. Given the availability and pricing of Nvidia, I doubt they would release the 1060 anytime soon, much less at the $200 price range. I don't recall their product release dates, isn't the Titan replacement due this year? The 960 came a little later with the last generation.

>>55094168
They try to fight too much in the middle and it just kills AMD. I myself prefer NVidia, but I will admit that AMD has some very respectable offerings. I just have plenty of disposable income so I go for the performance

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>>55094210
>nVidia will slash prices

>>55094210
Prices don't drop that easily. Look at Kepler prices today, they're not that down.
Also, you seem to forget how tempting a $150 card that can run 1080p sounds. Any newcomer that doesn't want to break bank would be looking at that card. If I wanted to make a decent build for 1080p, I would definitely be looking at the RX470 and not the RX480.

>>55094210
they'd have to drop them to sub-200 across the board which is not going to happen.

>>55094231
>They try to fight too much in the middle and it just kills AMD

Actually Nvidia Middle to low tier card got really bad offering compare to AMD one.
High tier card is much more debatable because its all about benchies instead of price.

>Friend ask me to build him a cyber cafe
>AMD $70 GPU is 2GB ddr5 128 bit while the Nvidia counter part is over $90

Is not really that much a problem if you build a single PC, but the budget start hitting you when you build for 60 units at the same time.

>buying cheap shit
>not gettimg the best card available

>>55094304
Some of us want to make a sound investment instead of just blowing a huge wad on a card that'll become deprecated just as quickly.

>>55094251
I'm team green (for reasons beyond performance) but if someone came to me for a 1080p build i'd point them at the RX480, it's just worth it for that money.

>>55094304

>Best available card that literally will got replaced by another new cards in less than three months.

>>55094326
how would a much stronger card be deprecated just as quickly?

>>55094210
>nVidia will slash prices on the 900 series sooner or later.
Anon, why would the prices drop when the stock isn't going up? The 750Ti hasn't dropped in price and it was a very popular card, there's no chance Maxwell is dropping in price. I'd love for the 980 so stay at the $500 price range forever as a reminder to never buy a *80 series card.

>>55091913
Definitely upgrading from my 970.

>>55094326
>sound investment
>Fucking graphics cards

You're a moron if you think hardware is a good investment.

>>55094213
No, if it becomes 2x as powerful, then it is half as powerful as it should be at launch. That's not slightly slower.

>>55094341
>>55094348
because it isn't that much stronger (15-25% on average) for how much more expensive it is (30-40% more on average)

>>55094358
You're conflating current performance with past performance when they're completely separate things. Performance in the past doesn't magically go down because performance today is better.

>>55094348
>You're a moron if you think hardware is a good investment.

I don't know about people in /g/, but I haven't changed my Sandy for 5 years now.
Before this it was 8800GT for four and half years that still run quite well in all its years.

That sounds like a good investment compare to blow your money on new hardware once a year.

Will a 480 be enough for 1440p gaming

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>>55094329
>team anything
You sound like a grounded person. Why would you ever support a company like Nvidia? The only thing I like about them is that I can run Linux with their drivers and still play on emulators and a few gaymes. Even then, I hate how uncooperative they are with the open source community. Nouveau just lost its purpose.

Also, yes, the RX480 would still be a great choice.
>brother build a PC a month ago
>mfw I lent my brother a 670 since I told him to wait for the new generation of cards
>mfw Polaris is everything he would ever want at a nice price

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>>55092758
My sides

RX-480(4GB)=$199
RX-480(8GB)=$240
RX-480 After Market Coolers(8GB)=$250 to $300

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>>55093235

>>55093446
290x owner here I bought it almost 3 years ago for 600 bucks and its still performing as well as 500 dollar cards today. I live in Canada if your wondering why the prices seem so high.

>>55094395
I meant specifically graphics cards, really.
I used a 3570k for years. I don't plan to change my 4790k out until 6 or 8 cores become mainstream.

Im just surprised people are still putting their faith in AMD after being let down so many times before.

>>55094509
>I used a 3570k for years.
I'm still on a 3570k. I'm not upgrading until there's an 8 core that makes sense. Fuck paying $1000 for that. I'd rather wait for Zen to hit and pay $600 for their 8 core.
I've lost most of my faith in AMD, but I believe in Keller. He wouldn't leave a pile of shit on his name that easily. Even if it's slightly above Sandy performance, I would still buy it. Intel needs to wake the fuck up. The Broadwell-E series is absolutely disgusting.

>>55094509
>Im just surprised people are still putting their faith in AMD after being let down so many times before.

Because people are not brand loyalist?
You saying as if I won't changed to AMD CPU next time if it actually did good compare to Intel counterpart.
Back then I was going from PIII to Athlon because Prescott and Rambus was such a disappointment.

Stop taking shitposter seriously and make your own research.

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>>55094404
I remember you. Youre a good brother. I also like that you post animes.

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>>55094590
Let's stop now.

>>55094404
Their engineering principals really. They focus on power with efficiency and reliability and it follows through in their pricing. Whereas AMD focus on making the process as cheap as possible and this comes with an ecological price all the way from the factory to the end user (ofc no one really cares about that).

I like to think of it in Watts per performance. If all gamers, however many millions, switched from Nvidia to AMD today that would be 100s of millions more watts that had to be used, although at the moment with the die shrink it's pretty level however mark my words as the dies increase in size the difference will get more drastic.

>>55094623
>They focus on power with efficiency and reliability and it follows through in their pricing.
This is just a recent thing. Fermi wasn't even that long ago and it was an absolute disaster in that regard. Also, It's not even that big of a difference in wattage. Hawaii consumes a lot of power and so does cut down Fiji, but the others are fine.

>>55094623

>Their engineering principals really

Moving away from the principals behind it (really its Nvidia moving stuff from hardware to software as its cheaper for them) you have to ask why the fuck can't Nvidia actually build a chip as dense as AMD does? If fat kepler actually could be as dense as hawaii we'd be looking at entire tiers of performance higher. Off the top of my head the fury x is basically the densest chip ever made (for raw transistor count it has everything else beat at 28nm). Christ if you simply kept the die size of the fury x and scaled 14nm to it (i.e moar of everything) you'd already have a 1080 killer.

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>>55094623
>If all gamers, however many millions, switched from Nvidia to AMD today that would be 100s of millions more watts that had to be used


*COUGH* *COUGH*

>>55094718
I'm looking at where it's going not where its been.

>>55094684
Nvidia is more FASTER CORES
MORE MEGAHERTZ MOAR

>>55092309
>gamers game

>>55094505
Damn the Canadian dollar

>>55094400
I imagine it should be capable, but it probably will not come close to maxing out graphics

>>55094746

That is still unrelated to why their chips are so fucking huge vs AMD's. Especially given AMD historically packs in extra hardware to cover their software woes. If Nvidia has the engineering lead (thats hypothetical fyi) then why aren't they shrinking their shit down?

For what its worth AMD's engineering is typically "superior" to Nvidia in so much that they can pack more into a smaller space (which is still extremely important for microchips) but the issue is more complex than merely X billion of transistors = better.

>>55094855
Oh, I missread your post. Yeah, I understand, AMD's chips are denser overall especially Fiji. I have no idea, I don't know shit about chip architecture.

>>55094855
Because they literally have no need, the 1080 is the strongest GPU available today and its just a 1/3 of the full Pascal chipset.


No need to invest in something when you can already can come out on top with what you currently have.

>>55092085
They've embraced the fact that only filthy poorfags and subhuman 3rd worlders buy their shit products.

>>55094890

>Because they literally have no need, the 1080 is the strongest GPU available today and its just a 1/3 of the full Pascal chipset.

Thats due to the node shrink.

Go back to 28nm and you'll see that bigmaxwell is a fucking behemoth.

>>55091913
How the FUCK do I preorder a 480

>>55094961
So?

The strongest GPU on 28nm are still from Nvidia, the Titan X and the GTX980Ti.

>>55092110
>285 below 960
lol

When does the NDA get lifted?

>>55094977

You don't seem to understand the discussion here. Its not about what they are, its about what they could be. Imagine a titan x having (random number) 30% more shaders.

>>55095001
no one knows, its usually part of the NDA itself

>>55095011
>You don't seem to understand the discussion here. Its not about what they are, its about what they could be.


You mean like the how the Big Maxwell chipset on the behemoth 28nm node was beat by miserly 1/3 of the Pascal chipset 16nm node?

>>55095011
A TitanX with 4096 shaders and a 512-bit bus would be as powerful as a 1080.

>>55094400
my 390 does fo4 ultra settings 1440p with green team features nerfed netting 50-60fps (vsync)

the 480 should perform better than the 390 so i think it'll be fine for 1440p

>>55093878
but also cheaper...

>>55095033
Yeah, and it would also be using around 450W and nearing 800mm2 sizes

>>55095031
>1/3rd
You don't have any information about further Pascal products, and historically the x80 has been 2/3rds of the Ti/Titan

>>55095050
correction:

x80 has been 2/3rds to 3/4ths of a titan

>>55092133
yes, and this is actually what people call nvidia gimping.
I dont believe that nvidia gimps card but for reasons (better hardware, worse software?,farsightness?) amd cards always come on top some years down the road.

>>55095050
Sigh, why are you trying to argue when you don't even have knowledge about the topic?

The FULL Pacal chipset is already out, the whitepaper has been out even before the 1080 was released.

>>55094554
Sounds like brand loyalty if you're still putting faith into a company that has failed many times before.
If zen is as good as they're saying I'll buy it up real quick. But if its not (which it probably won't be, sadly) then I'd rather keep my 4790k or get a 5820k.

>>55095076
The GP100 chips are not game oriented graphics processors, they don't even have ROPs or texture address units.
GP100 is purely for compute applications. You simply cannot run games on it, this has already been mentioned further up the thread.

>>55092133
Nope.

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/geforce-368-39-brings-performance-gtx-1080/3/

Babeltechreviews does driver comparison every now and then with up to date drivers from both AMD and Nvidia.

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/geforce-368-39-brings-performance-gtx-1080/3/

The most recent one.

The 290X is faster than the 390.

>>55095026
Seems crazy to me that the card is out in 14 days and there are no game benchmarks out yet. Thx anyway.

>>55095093
Guess Nvidia will change how they have been working since Fermi with Pascal now, huh?

That was sarcasm by then way.

>>55092110

Das niedrigste Klasse in diesem Bild soll "Niggerklasse" nennen.

>>55095093
isn't that the P100

>>55095130
Man you guys are straight up fucking dope head idiots.
GP100 will not be in people's hands, there will be a separate GP102 specifically for the enthusiast game market.

The 1080 and 1070 still have the same 1/32 FP64 rate. They are not derived from the GP100's design.

>>55095164
Tesla P100 = GP100

>>55095191
Jesus Christ you are retarded motherfucker, Geforce cards are cutdown chipsets that don't make the cut to be used as workstation cards, in Pascal case the full Pascal chipset needs to have 56SM fully functioning to be considered a working chipset, anything below that gets cutdown and used for Geforce cards.


Nvidia has been doing this since Fermi.

>>55095080
>putting faith

How the hell saying "if" make me a brand loyalist?
This is a hardware company not a damn religion,
Are you retarded?

>The RX 480 cards feature a base clock speed of 1080Mhz and a boost clock speed of 1266Mhz out of the box.

sauce: curry

>>55095223
>"In Pascal, an SM (streaming multiprocessor) consists of 64 CUDA cores. Maxwell packed 128, Kepler 192, Fermi 32 and Tesla only 8 CUDA cores into an SM; the GP100 SM is partitioned into two processing blocks, each having 32 single-precision CUDA Cores, an instruction buffer, a warp scheduler, 2 texture mapping units and 2 dispatch units."

GP100 DOES NOT HAVE ROPs. IT CANNOT PUSH PIXELS TO A DISPLAY. IT IS FOR COMPUTE ONLY.
GP104 IS NOT, IS NOT, IS NOT, THE SAME DESIGN.

>>55095252
Dense motherfucker.

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>>55095270

Whats the minimum CPU should I partner with the RX 480

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470 should go against xx50 or xx40?
really no idea at those price points.

>>55095330
you could have an i3 there w/o much trouble.

>>55095330
FX 8350 but don't even think about doing an AM3+ build in 2016.

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>>55095330
Wait for Zen™

>>55095330
Pentium 100MHz AT LEAST

>>55095385
who is this semen demon?

>>55095400
Probably some idolslut

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>>55095400
Research indicates it is some form of 2hu

WHAT CPU SHOULD I GET WITH THIS BABY?

>>55095484
i7 870

>>55095484
ZEN
E
N

Oh wait

AMD YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN GODDAMMIT

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>>55095400
Just some pink haired slut

>>55095484
Anything that is on the level of an i5-6500

OC'd 2500k, slightly less OCd 3570k, etc.

>>55091913
Can we preorder it yet?

>>55095576
T H I S
H
I
S

>>55095383
probably want an 1151 i5, no sense getting a Haswell mobo

>>55095225
You're the one that said it first you fucking moron.

>1060 gets released
>AMD fuccbois on SUICIDE WATCH

what a time to be alive

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>>55091913

>>55095739
>1060 gets "released" in 4 months and costs 50$ more than the RX480 while being worse

can't wait
literally

>>55095354

Stack in a 6 months will look like this
RX460
1050
RX470
1060
RX480
1070
1080
Vega 10
1080 Ti

>>55095769
>costs 50$ more than the RX480 while being worse
Only an AMDrone would sincerely believe any company would price a product with the intent to lose sales.

>>55095739
>1060 gets released
>It's the same fucking thing

You shit heads really trying to fill the gaping hole that is your self identity with brand loyalty?

>>55095799
Explain the 960 then.

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>>55095502
>>55095544
>mixing amd and intel parts

>>55095799
You think them releasing an inferior product at a higher price would mean they wouldn't sell? Have you never heard of Apple?

>>55095799
I was just exaggerating of course but unless they have a 1060ti up their sleeve the 1060 will not be 200$ and if it ends up being half a 1080 it may not be much better than the RX480 either.
People would buy it anyway because it's an nvidia card.

>>55094916
More like embraced the fact that the majority of people who buy GPU's are poorfags

>>55095822
>not getting the best of both worlds
>getting jewed by Novidia

>>55095841
>You think them releasing an inferior product at a higher price would mean they wouldn't sell?
Not that they wouldn't sell at all. That's a retarded notion. However, they would not sell WELL _and_ give the competition a secure position in the market.

Why do I have to explain simple market concepts to you?

Oh, and Nvidia isn't Apple.

>>55092110
>The dual GPU cards not being at the very hot top

>>55095812
What about the 960? It is priced to match its performance in the market. Unless you are comparing it to a card that hasn't even been independently reviewed let alone launched yet?

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>>55092758
>He thinks sub 1000$ cards are expensive
>He's proud of thinking he's rich

Are you unemployed?

>>55095924
It's a inferior card to its competitor in every metric.

>>55095953
Is it priced $50 above its competitor?

Did you jump into the middle of a discussion without bothering to understand the topic of the discussion like the typical AMDrone?

>>55095879
wont that be too close to the 1070?

>>55091913
The only thing I'm seeing here is nvidia at the top, where it belongs.

>>55095951
What else do you expect from a typical Nvidiot?

>>55095962
It's more expensive but it's not $50 expensive

>>55096004
>It's more expensive
Source?

I got damn lucky. Was stupid enough to buy R9 Nano, but got it rma'd due to coil whine. Getting 1070 next week.

>>55095924
GTX 960 costs $170-$200 and performs between the below cards.
R9 280 averages $200-220
R9 270x averages $160-190

And compared to the R7 300 series
R7 370 averages $150-$190

It's priced relatively competitively for its competition. I know used cards aren't really comparable, but I got a GTX 960 from a desperate guy for $50.

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>mfw all these benchmarks where gimped 980s and 970s
>mfw actual game fps numbers aren't anywhere near the gtx 1070
>mfw Nvidia releases the gtx 1060 thats a hairline above the 480 for $50 more
>mfw it sells like hotcakes

>>55091913
Why is the AMD crying

>>55092086
That support it. And also if nvidia and amd don't find a way to block it and make people believe there's a good reason for it.
>>55095067
Probably because amd doesn't know how optimisation works. Nvidia is like apple, they have a name, and they make sure they get everything out of their GPUs, while AMD is like Samsung, they make better hardware but can't (or maybe not at first) use it to its max, which is enough to get the first wave of customers looking to buy a new GPU to buy their products. As time goes by AMD GPUs start to show their true potential, but by then nvidia is already on top.

>>55092459
Kek'd

>>55095725

>"I'm not brand loyalist because I changed from one brand to another depend which one is better"
>"bb-ut you are, moron!"

Holy shit, you need brain check.

>>55091969
>on 1080p (144hz) will 4GB be enough?

excluding mods and shitty console ports, probably.
OTOH, paying 15% more for safety is probably smart if you intend to use this card for more than say 2 years.

>>55092894
>If the gimping meme is true, why don't people get better performance when they install older drivers?

They do, actually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4efemc/if_you_are_using_a_500_series_nvidia_card/

>>55096183
This.
I did this on my 560ti. It is unplayable otherwise.

>>55091969
better safe than sorry. games are starting to use more than 4gigs. look at mirrors edge it exceeds 4 gigs easily

>>55094210
>nVidia will slash prices on the 900 series sooner or later

good God this stupidity.

they just quit ordering dies from TSMC when a new chip is ready.
I'd be amazed if any GM200/GM204 are being made, and any remnant parts are probably just dribbling their way out the supply chain or sitting in retailer inventory.

>>55096183
>dark souls 3
There's your problem. That game is a nightmare, not even relative to performance.

>>55096274
Requires skill to play.

>>55096291
I'm talking about all the false positive bans, broken poise (maybe it's a feature at this point in which the stats are misleading) and hackers able to go HAM on innocent people.

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>>55095093
>The GP100 chips are not game oriented graphics processors
true
>they don't even have ROPs
maybe
>or texture address units.
false. there are 240 (enabled out of 256 total?)

I just noticed many of the €799 1080s are dropping €10 to €789. Either retailers made a mistake with the initial pricing or demand is pretty low and they are starting to adjust to see if demand improves.

>>55095908
>It wouldn't sell at all

Stick to your vacuum economic models bud, because that is just flat out wrong. Consumers recognise brands, not quality. Why do think a more expensive 3.5gb gimped card is the single most popular card on the market?

>>55095797
>>55095354
So since fury is still really gud is there any chance I can get that to avoid paying the 1070 price?

>>55096312
Skill is borked for everyone, so everyone is equally at a disadvantage.

There's always false positive bans on any online game system that bans people and always hackers on any online game. If this is your criticism, then don't play online mode.

>>55092798
AMDGPU PRO - is perfect open-source drivers, nvidiots simply sucks.

>>55096379
Wait a few weeks for non reference cards. You'll get your $350 MSRP. 1080 aftermarket cooler cards are already out from a few brands, ahead of schedule because AMD made a good announcement.

>>55094300
specs? budget? total cost? im curious

>>55091969
Probably, but its only $30 to double the VRAM so it seems like a no-brainer unless you're on a really tight budget.

>>55096417
Yeah there's always false positives, sure, but not nearly in the quantities the likes of dark souls 3. FROM has always been bad at programming, they just know how to make a good functioning game and a tragic engrossing story.

I don't even care about poise, I never saw a need for it. Just no sense in saying something does something it doesn't, which is misleading to people who know none the better.

>>55096312
>broken poise (maybe it's a feature at this point in which the stats are misleading)

It is working as intended.
FROM has already told everyone complaining about poise that they're doing it wrong and need to git gud.

>>55096505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywdjQPy3jmw

>functioning as intended
K. If functioning as intended is being 100% pointless, then yes, it is indeed functioning as intended.

>>55096252
http://videocardz.com/61116/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-receive-a-price-cut
REKT

>>55096550
>“The poise stat is working as intended and is not ‘turned off’ as some fans have theorised,” the spokesperson said. “The stat works differently than in past games and is more situational, which seems to be the reason for the confusion.”

>>55096444

The Nvidia one? GT 740. I told him to get R7 240 2GB DDR5 instead.
Can't recommend him the 730 because the spec is complete shit and won't hold for at least 4 years.
I forgot the total cost of each unit, but I remember I was recommending him an i3 Haswell.

>>55092110
>titan x higher then 980 ti
some people...

>>55096433
I could just wait for Vega though and get that to have some insane performance.

How good is Fury for gaymen? Upgrading from a 290 and with just and extra 50 I could get a 1070. Really need to upgrade the whole setup though hopefully with Zen and mini ITX.

>>55096557
True this. Right now at altenate 980ti at €464.I have seem one at €350 second hand market. This kind of movements do not happen on a mere rumor. The benchmarks must be on point methinks.

>>55096604
wut you should recommending apu, so much better for Internet cafe. or some r7 360 it cost like <$100 less right now.

>>55096643
I wager the new furry is only going to "compete" with the 1080 at absolute best. That card isn't coming until 2017. By then Nvidia will be in the works with the next Titan for release and not long there after a 1080ti.

If I were you I would just stick with your 290. I doubt there's anything you play now or will play in the next 6 months that requires more for 1080p 60fps. If for some reason you feel compelled to buy something then buy a 1070 once non reference cards release.

>>55096428
>AMDGPU PRO
>open-source
>AMD provides a proprietary, binary userland driver called AMDGPU PRO, which works on top of the open-source AMDGPU kernel driver.

>>55094784
Correction then.
>Most gaymen game

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>>55096825
>furry

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>>55091913

>>55096170
my system currently eats around 1gb v ram just for background shit.

getting an 8gb just for the sake of not needing to close shit out and the few games that use textures that go over 4bg.

>>55097139
kill yourself

>>55097159
>poo
>Raja
I hate this meme. Raja is not a poo. The only thing poos want to do is poo everywhere that isn't the loo. Raja is the GPU man.

>>55095067
heaven benchmarks gimp where the 780ti got outside margin of error worse.

call it incompetence if you want, they let it go for a month before the shitstorm hit critical mass and they "fixed" it, but by then, some people upgraded.

then look at game works, pushing 64x tessellation, nvidia's newest can do that no sweat, but their older cards suffer, and amd's cards suffer just a bit more. to the point that during some time frames the 960 was out doing a 780ti...

fact is old cards get stunted growth, and nvidia stops optimizing them then they start pushing new features into games that run like hell on old hardware, but just a bit worse on amd, you will see it with new global illumination and i think they have a new AO

>>55095822
What special kind of autist pushed you out of their vagina?

>>55096100
She is mourning Nvidia's death. They put up a good fight. AMD is not nasty like Nvidia Jews who would be laughing and dancing around the grave.

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>>55097159

>>55097393
Only $900 for a 1080! What a steal!

>>55097393
they went full jew this time

>>55097393
>>55097465
>>55097530
Still nothing against European prices.

http://geizhals.de/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-90yv09m1-m0nm00-a1453343.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

>>55097609
Wow, gross.
I can get a Windforce 1080 for €820 in Croatia.
And our tax rate is 25%

Nvidia are shitting themselves. Prices are gonna fall through the floor over the coming weeks.

http://videocardz.com/61116/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-receive-a-price-cut

We’ve just received a word from Hardware.Info that NVIDIA is issuing a price cuts for its high-end GeForce GTX 900 series.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti, 980, 970 are now cheaper

In the last 24 hours the prices of many GTX 900 cards has dropped by almost 20%. According to the information provided by HWI, GeForce GTX 900 series receive the following price cuts:

GeForce GTX 980 Ti: 125 USD
GeForce GTX 980: 75 USD
GeForce GTX 970: 25 USD

>>55093037
>>55093094
they do, they we get told "but that's using settings the old card can't into"... yea, its not gimping by turning the tessellation to 64x at all... even when you don't get a choice at where it puts it.

>>55097678
>selling off the last of your old product for a lower price

I don't see any issues with this. Get the stock off shelves as its not being made anymore. Anything not sold would get sent back to manufacturers and used for RMAs possibly.

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>>55095924
Same price as the 380. This makes it a bad purchase.

>>55097769
That'd make sense if they had NEW products to replace them.
Where is the 970 replacement? The almost $450 1070?

>>55097795
The 1060, just you wait

>>55097813
Nigga Nvidia doesn't even have enough wafers to produce GP104 in notable quantities, what the fuck are they gonna do with a second GPU? Thin out the stock even more?

The RX480 is a godsend for ITXfags like me. The TDP is low and the enclosure looks to be fairly short - it might actually be a GPU that won't make a metis explode.

>>55097791
Except you can get the 960 much cheaper than that

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX960-2GB-GDDR5-256Bit-PCI-Express-Video-Graphic-Card/322142093128

>>55092085
>implying businesses care about enthusiast bullshit

While Linus is covering his 1080 in semen AMD will be laughing all the way to the bank

>>55097836

>Metis

Nigga get an Ncase, it's got actual ventilation and you can fit a lot more shit in there.

>>55097843
I can also get a 380 by clubbing someone over the head and stealing it.

Wow, what value!

Do AMD also price gouge in the UK? I was ready to buy a 1070 but converting back to dollars the UK price is almost double the American price. We aren't even third world either - our universities probably developed the technology that American companies sell to retards.

>>55097887
This is the price you pay for not having laws that toddle corporations.
On the other hand, at least we're still relatively safer from corporations making up laws for us in EU
For now.

>>55092814
I get amd so long as they are competitive, i fucking hate intel's business practices, and nvidia trying to ruin gaming with gameworks, among other past grievances.

amd has till zen on the cpu side, i cant wait longer then that, and on the gpu, they are always competitive if not the best each time i need a new gpu.

they were in the 5000, they were in the 7000 and they will be come december early next year too, though i'm likely going a 480 8gb stop gap.

>>55097843
That's a fake card though. Blantantly obviously so, with the bootleg Nvidia logo and incorrect specs on the sticker (810MHz core for example). It'll be some cheap piece of shit like a GT 730 with a different cooler slapped on it.

>>55091913
>I payed over 300 for a 390 last october
Shit

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>>55097159
Shitty paint edits then

JUST RELEASE IT ALREADY
GODDAMIT
3rd party coolers when ? Is Sapphire a safe-pick ?

>>55098037
It's being released on the 29th. Rumours suggest that stock will be plentiful and retailers already have them, so custom cards should be day one. Stock of Pascal is only so scarce because Nvidia rushed it out to beat AMD to market.

Nvidia won't die because Nvidia is Nvidia, the market is brainwashed to shit. AMD can win this generation, but they'll never win the market share, at least not yet. They have to redeem their name first. The success of Zen will help determine the success of their GPU department. It's all about brand identity.

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>>55096428
>Implying they didn't just drop support entirely for their proprietary driver and force everyone to switch to the slow open source drivers.

You need to buy their fastest $700 dollar card just to be able to play games on low.

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The leaked Sapphire RX480 looks gorgeous, it will go perfectly with my white themed build.

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>>55097836
>The RX480 is a godsend for ITXfags
Shit, I hope some aftermarket cards don't go with the penis extension and make a cute card.

>>55098037
Sapphire is the best AMD partner, like EVGA for Nvidia. Although EVGA are only best for their warranty and not their mediocre cards, whilst Sapphire are best for their actual cards and not their mediocre warranty.

Just avoid Asus at all costs. Their AMD cards are pure shit.

>>55098099
That cooler wouldn't even work. Back to engineering class, Pajeet.

>>55098099
You should get a job as a graphic designer. Your MS Paint skills are impressive, anon.

>>55098037
>Is Sapphire a safe-pick ?
It makes a good cheese grater when your not playing games.

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>>55098037
Sapphire 480s are being spotted in the US for $260 So thats $30 for 8GB and for $30 more you get a custom cooler.

>>55098122
That's just the reference cooler, anon.

>>55098122
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO BUY IT RIGHT FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>55098122
>buying a reference card

ISHYGDDT

>>55098142
>pre-order price gouging

It'll be cheaper at Amazon/Newegg.

Okay I can take all the insults, I'm poor, stupid, whatever.

But can someone please tell me, is RX480 worth getting over a GTX1070? Thanks

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>>55098154
It's the Sapphire reference cooler. The red Radeon logo is replaced with a white Sapphire logo, the fan is white instead of red and a white backplate is included.

I think the non-reference Sapphire cooler is hideous

>>55098142
100 are in order!!! Thats like all the GTX1080s ever made

>>55095354
470 will compete with 1060. 480 will have no competition until the 1060ti comes out, probably end of this year or start of next.

why doesn't sapphire release nvidia cards?

>>55098175
If you can afford the 1070 there is no reason to not get it except brand loyalty.

>>55098187
Zotac.

>>55098180
>buying a card based on looks;

Enjoy your leaf blower.

>>55098175
They're not in the same class. One costs $200 and one costs $400. There's no point comparing them.

>>55098193
There's no reason not to wait and see if the RX 480 meets your needs before making a decision other than brand loyalty.

>>55098187
They do. Sapphire is a trading name for a company called PC Partner, which also trades as Zotac. The more you know.

>>55098202
>>55098212
really makes you think

>>55098207
>There's no reason not to wait and see if the RX 480 meets your needs
Except for the standard of get the best video card you can afford at the time you need it unless there is a better card coming out in the next couple of weeks. Why would you suggest _not_ getting the best performing video card you can afford?

>>55098212
Even weirder, Palit also controls Daytona, Gainward, Galaxy, Vivkoo, Yuan, and XpertVision.

>>55098193
That's why I said I'm poor. 1070s are a bit of a stretch for me but I'm thinking that buying one RX would still upgrade my system (GTX 590) then buying another one later would be better

>>55098237
>get the best video card you can afford
This is fucking stupid. Everyone can afford any GPU. If you don't have the money on your bank account then you can just take a credit.

>>55098258
>Palit

I owned a Palit GTX 980 for a month before I sold it on. Card was perfect, the only issue was that it was too big to fit in any case I owned.

>>55098260
>That's why I said I'm poor.
If you can't afford the 1070 then you shouldn't be thinking about buying it.

>buying another one later
CF/SLI supported titles are getting less and less.

>>55098275
>Everyone can afford any GPU
Yeah, no. Either you've never actually had a budget to work with for anything or else you are raising retarded arguments for argument's sake.

>>55098237
Because we don't know how the RX 480 performs yet. Suggesting that someone buy a card when they only need to wait two weeks to have all the facts to make an informed decision stinks of shilling. It may be that the RX 480 is pretty close to the 1070 and a much better buy on price/performance terms.

>the standard of get the best video card you can afford at the time
The standard for who? My standard has always been to buy the best price/performance card that meets my needs. Many others seem to agree. Not people trying to lock people down to a 1070 purchase in exchange for rupees though I guess.

>>55098187
XFX's story is more interesting, as they used to make both Nvidia and AMD cards, yet Nvidia tried strongarming them and saying that if they continued making AMD cards, they'd withdraw their license to make Nvidia cards. So XFX told them to fuck off and went full AMD of their own accord.

Maybe not the wisest business decision, but it's nice that they stood up to them. Nvidia would never have tried that shit with someone big like Asus or MSI. They just wanted to bully a company that they thought would take it.

>>55098297
>Because we don't know how the RX 480 performs yet
Every indicator shows that it performs worse than the 1070. Why is there any reason to believe it will be a better performing card?

>>55098260
Do you play 1440p or 1080p?
If 1080p then RX480 is plenty pending final benchmarks.
If 1440p then do make the effort to go 1070 or wait for vega.

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>all these AMDrones

I'll just be over here sitting pretty with my Zotac 980ti with 1355 boost clock tyvm

Paid shilling is no joke. Just look at the fags in this thread peddling the 480, talking about preorders.

It seems the loo in Pajeet country vomitted out all the poo

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>>55098297
>The standard for who?

Are there any other GPU manufacturers that do a step up scheme like EVGA? I love their service but I hate their products.

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>>55098212
>>55098258
Holy fuck you guys just blew my mind.
Why their qality varies so much tho?
>Sapphire
A-tier AMD cards manufacturer
>PC partner
The chinkiest, cheapest mobos ever
>Zotac
C-grade tier

>Palit also controls Daytona, Gainward, Galaxy, Vivkoo, Yuan, and XpertVision

Well at least there's some stability in there - all these brands rage from C-tier to fucking F-- tier

>>55098237
The goal should always be to minimize the ratio:

"cost of video card"/"time until a new video card upgrade is needed"

which is never the most expensive card.

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>>55098127
Considering the reference PCB without the cooler is about the size of a nano I don't see why we won't see a mini version of it soon.

>>55098377
*range

>>55098383
>The goal should always be to minimize the ratio:
It's almost like summefags have never heard of the logical increments guide. . .

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Thinking about selling my 970 before its value gets rekt even more

From my point of view, even if the RX480 is 970-tier it will be a sound decision simply because it is a newer card and will hold its value a little bit better. So with this in mind, it probably only gets better from there.

Now personally, I'm surprised AMD is clocking it so low. NVIDIAs massive clocks are a result of the node shrink, so I don't know why AMD is clocking their shit at 28nm levels. Maybe the "beast mode" cards are really a thing and will push the chip as far as it can go... I dunno. Exciting times though

>>55098391
Wow, that's fucking neat

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Considering that the GTX 1070/1080 aren't even buyable yet, looks like AMD won yet again.

>>55098377
>Palit
Palit's Super Jetstream 980TI was god tier.

>>55098377
They are a partnership but remain independent units with different factory processes in different locations.

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>>55098286
DX11 did not support multi GPU system, it was up to the developer or the GPU maker to send CF/SLi profiles.

DX12 supports multi GPU systems so the developer nor the GPU maker has to make multi gpu profiles.

In other words DX12 and Vulkan will make development for multi GPU cards easier. Also DX12 supports memory stacking so two 4GB RX480's are really going to be 8GB where in DX11 it would have only been 4GB.

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>Buying a nvidia card now costs 2000 dollars

>>55098377
>Palit
I actually really like them, you get a pretty top notch aftermarket cooler for about the price as reference. There's no frills, just as much performance as they can give you for the price of the reference cooler.

>>55098458
really makes u think

>>55098405
It's a shitty guide by a paid shill.

>>55098377
I imagine they share production lines but have seperate design teams. You'll often get the same non-reference PCB from Palit and Gainward, but with a different cooler.

>>55098498
nigga im diamond

>>55098498
The RX480 is cute. Cute!

>>55091913
The RX480 is also likely to perform better than the 3D Mark results would suggest in actual games since AMD have the DX12/Vulkan thing down.

>>55098448
>In other words DX12 and Vulkan will make development for multi GPU cards easier.


How does going from the simply alternate frame rendering or split frame rendering to having to code your game engine to support each GPU individually and having to allocate resources and memory on each GPU individually makes it easier?

>>55098419
I think they are clocking it low intentionally for a few reasons

to keep the TDP low on paper release
keep the benchmarks low until the consumer gets hardware in their hands
rub the "special snowflake" gamer type the right way i.e
>wow amd is so dum I can easily get a 25-40% overclock out of the box

AMD is appealing to the ''''''average'''''' gamer
Nvidia is appealing to the gamer with money to spend and wants/needs(?) top performance

If I was going to make a bad comparison to cars I would compare it to buying a Civic Si and tuning it
versus buying some big block car (mustang, charger, some other big block shit) and then building it up

or polaris 10 is all they have and the 490 is going to be a high binned ~275w TDP 480
thats clocked all to hell and back

I could go on but /blogpost

>>55098448
>DX11 did not support multi GPU system
DX11 did not support multi gpus like two 980s or two 390s?

>>55095354
>290 15% slower than 290x
>290 that close to 280x and 780
seems weird desu

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>>55098483
>It's a shitty guide by a paid shill.
Now that's patented grasping at straws.

>>55098646
No. The driver did, but DX11 itself had no knowledge of it.

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>>55098669

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>>55098569
I'm glad you asked -=)

Traditionally 1 card would work on an entire screen as the other worked on the next screen to come. Then trown the upcoming fram in the buffer. Then the frame has to go from the buffer to the screen and this leads to lag and micro stutter. With SFR one gpu works on half the screen and the second gpu works on the other half. No need for frame buffering because the work has been cut in half. The GPU will just work on the next half frame with out having to buff it. What happens if one card is a 480 and the other is a 470? the 480 would do more than half the screen and the 470 would do what it can handle. In DX11 the cards would default to the slower cards speed.

>>55098734
That doesn't answerer the question at all, you're not even touching the topic the question asked.

>>55098669
This is correct. The API did not know and Nvidia or AMD would have to fix this via driver updates. Is Nvidia or AMD going to CF/SLi every game that comes out? Fuck no.

>>55098734
>He thinks SFR is new.

How cute.

>>55098750
As I'm not a developer and seen the code. But DX12 and Vulkan says the now support multi GPUs which means as the developer you don't have to code for each GPU you make your game and the API will handle the memory pooling and multi GPU tasks.

>>55098569
Here's an interesting article for you to read.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9740/directx-12-geforce-plus-radeon-mgpu-preview
CF/SLI required a bit more overhead so DX12's solution is a bit more elegant but requires a lot more work on the front side. Since most PC games are console ports I doubt we will see the devs doing more than necessary to have a good console port to PC (and even less than that with some devs. I'm looking at you From). Thus it'll be left to AMD and Nvidia to work with the devs to include multi-gpu support async or otherwise.

>>55098777
Never said SFR is new, but it is new fully implemented in DX12 and was not in DX11

>>55098810
You can already do that with DX11, as long as the game engine does not reuses old frames you can enable SLI with just 1 setting according to Nvidia dev blog, if you game engine relies on old frames to do lighting or shadows et cetera you have to work more to get it working.

>>55098833
It is now built into the API for easer implementation thats all I'm saying. Previously the developer or GPU manufacturer would have to make profiles for this. You don't flip a fucking switch and every fucking game becomes SFR or 100% SLi compliant.

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damn nigga

>>55098823
Let me help out a little, because tons of people are falling for the AMD marketing about dual GPUs.

SFR was an adequate alternative several years ago when games were not using such advanced rendering techniques, but now that we see geometric tessellation and complex shading effects becoming much more common, the pitfalls of screen-portioned rendering (split-frame, scissor frame, supertiling, etc.) become a lot more pronounced. Overdrawing is the biggest problem here; all of the vertices for scene geometry have to be transformed by each GPU even if they are not within the GPU's assigned region, meaning geometry performance cannot scale like it does with AFR, and any polygon between multiple rendering regions has to be fully textured and shaded by each GPU whose region it occupies, which is wasteful. Of course, there are also complications that can rise from inaccurate workload allocations.

Now, even AFR has become useless on modern games because the game engines rely on old frames to do different ppost processing effects which completely breaks AFR.


All that was with the help of the driver, DX12/Vulkan is going to be even harder as now every developer will have to do it manually without the help of the driver to fall back.


Dual GPU setups becoming good is a dream, at least until every game developer becomes good (never).

>>55098758
>This is correct.
The question was not whether or not the API "knew" of it but whether or not DX11 _supported_ multi-gpu. DX12's default, implicit multi-adapter, is the same as DX11's.

>>55098578
Ey what do you think of this then >>55098508