RX470 RX460 have just been announced

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Specs (unconfirmed)

Thoughts?

>>55063115
I saw a different version of this image in another thread and the 460 had more memory bandwidth than the 480. I think it was 296gb/s.

The pic is trash.

WOW, IT'S FUCKING NOTHING

>No Polaris card that can compete with a 3 year old GTX 780 Ti

How does AMD plan to survive?

>>55063115
TBC is a good spec

I just need to replace my HD 6870 for a 1080p monitor.
Which one ?

AMD won, it's over for nvidia

RX460 is probably gonna replace 750Ti as a cheap upgrade for dated PCs and HTPCs/ Mini-ITX builds (no 6-pin power connector required).

Probably cost around $100-120 too.

480 = 980/390X
470 = 970/390
460 = 960/280X

Performance wise, this is where it would be

>>55063171
What the fuck are you saying?

>>55063078

If the new 460 is under 80W and can handle 1080p 120fps on CS GO then I will buy 20.

>>55063171
The 480 overclocked outperforms the 980

>>55063226
They were advertising the 460 for eSports.
You know what else AMD advertises for eSports? Their APUs.

460 = APU tier performance

>>55063266
>1080p csgo

i thought it was better to play csgo at like 800x600 stretched or some shit

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>>55063196
>1080p
no, it's 1440p or better now

at least get an SIPS/PLS/whatever panel if you HAVE to go 1080p

>>55063226
more like
480 = fury > 980
470 = 970
460 = 380 > 960

>>55063078
>http://videocardz.com/61028/amd-announces-radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460
How many stream processors is the RX 470 estimated to have?

>>55063272
There's no sense in releasing a dedicated card if it offers APU-tier performance, it'sobviously more powerful (probably GTX950+ level)

>>55063286

The esport audience? yes, was holding a tourney back then and every teams was changing their resolution to the lowest just to boost their fps to 299-ish.

I still need a cheap low tdp and powerful card for my regular costumer.

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>>55063324
>hundreds of fps

>>55063292
I have 27" 1080p MVA+, I hate IPS panels (violet black, crystalline effect, IPS glow)

>>55063224

470 is the one competing with Nvidia's 50 series.

Finger crossed

>>55063335

Don't ask me, I don't play competitive FPS.
Most of them also changed their screen to 4:3 display from the panel even when I already used a 27" widescreen monitor.

>>55063292
I have a Dell U2311H
I like it a lot.

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>>55063171

Neat. I'm finna get me an 470 now as my final 1080p solution for my old rig while I save up to make a better one.

The RX 480 have insane performances for a $230 GPU.
Vega will come in october and 2017 but if they keep going like that they will outperform the 1070 and 1080 that are the high tier GPU of Nvidia.
Will nvidia release something new ? Did they said which were their plans ?

>>55063348
>being this deluded
I've seen a bad 1080p IPS panel (shitty matte coating), but 1440ps are great. Keep shelling out for an objectively worse monitor.

>>55063335
because source engine makes everything look choppy as dogshit if you hit less than 250 fps w/ 59Hz monitor

4:3 makes the enemies hitboxes slightly larger

>>55063379

For counter strike its related to how the game handles its physics.

>>55063397
>one generation shows a 50% performance difference
Sure is synthetic benchmarks

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>>55063171
>>55063397

>>55063414
>objectively worse monitor.

In 2013 when I bought mine MVAs were WAY better than IPS. Though I believe that tthey have improved since then.

>>55063421

How is that related?
CS:GO happen physics is in client side instead of server side?

>>55063420
>4:3 makes the enemies hitboxes slightly larger

only if you stretch the screen.

>>55063272
You're dumb.

>>55063468
>CS:GO happen physics

I need to go to sleep.

Would it make sense to go from a 290X to a Rx480?
Assusming you sell the 290x

>>55063535
Wait to see how much it overclocks.

>>55063397
>4GB almost as good as 8GB 1070
Fishy...

>>55063535
if you bought a 290x and realized you only play runescape then sure

>>55063489
that i do~

I was expecting a 490, 40-44 cu full polaris announcement. She reiterated the $100-$300 again today so where does $300 come in if Polaris is three cards with the 480 being the full chip at $200-$230.

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>>55063397
shieeeet, I'm switching to ayyemdee if this graph is true

How can tablets even compete?

>>55063554
Maybe XT with 30% overclocks will be $300?

>>55063266
First of all, 120 fps is not enough for competitive CSGO. At least 300 fps is optimal on a 144 Hz monitor. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWSRTYV8e0

Second, my old 7870 used to get around 250 fps in 5v5, so I think 460 should get at least that.

>>55063535
It's kind of a sidegrade, the 480 will probably perform better but not by a whole lot. The leaked benchmarks (not the fake one everyone has been posting recently) show it's about equal to a Fury. Plus you'll get lower temps and a lot less power consumption. You could probably sell your 290x for $200 right now on craigslist, and some chump will probably buy it.

>>55063078
Wait, what? They all go out on June 29th?

>>55063535
just wait out for Vega

>>55063591
>First of all, 120 fps is not enough for competitive CSGO.

>>55063324

I need something new to replace 20 of my old 7790.

>>55063078
>That pic

470 confirmed for P10 PRO, Nvidia is fucking slaughtered.

>>55063539
>wait
if I wait, i cant sell my gpu for 200$

>>55063615
Nah, I thought she said only RX480 releases on 29th

>>55063648
Sell it anyway, at least you won't end up with something worse.

>>55063286
That's personal preference. Some pros use 800x600 out of habit, they've been playing since 1.6 which was like 15 years ago.

Lots of people play at 1080p, I'd say 99% of the people that started in the last 5 years do. Realistically, it makes little difference in your performance, it's just a matter of habits. Additionally, CSGO is a CPU bound game, a decent GPU of the level of the 370 or 950 is enough to run at 1080p with a good CPU.

>>55063639
>P10 PRO
?

If I manage to sell my 280x I'm grabbing that r9 480.

News release is out:

http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2177206

>>55063663
It means RX 480 with 10-15% less performance, better overclocking and 60-70% of the price.

>>55063591
So what am I supposed to do about screen tearing?

>peasant trash cards

Ok.jpg

No fucks were given.

I was going to buy a 1070 but rx480 looks more and more compelling.

>>55063687
scotch tape?

>>55063674
>"Today only the top 16 percent of PC gamers are purchasing GPUs that deliver premium VR and Gaming experiences.2
>2. Based on AMD internal data and analysis only, as of May 2016.

>>55063684

Typically the pro versions of cards don't overclock better than their XT versions. Fiji pro is basically the only exception.

>>55063710
Funny. But seriously, if I play CSGO without any form of frame limiting, the screen tearing is ridiculous.

Aftermarket when? Fuck this reference shit, I want superior cooling.

>>55063687
The higher your fps and the higher the refresh rate of your screen is, the less noticeable the tearing is to the point you cannot see it. Thats the brute force method.

If you want a smooth singleplayer experience with below 60 fps go for a freesync or Gsync monitor.

>>55063724
You sure? I sure as hell remember Cypress, Cayman and Tahiti PRO overclocking better.
They're higher leakage than XT chips, by all common sense they would overclock more.

>>55063535
Possibly if you can get close to a value of $200 from the 290X.

I want to take a poo on the 480 and set the fan to 100%

>>55063755

>They're higher leakage than XT chips

Yeah i'm gonna need some source for this. Tahiti pro runs at more or less same voltage as XT, as does hawaii (and I assume fiji, but i'm unsure).

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>>55063078

Goodbye 360, 750 Ti, 950, 370, 960, 380, 380X, 970, 390, 980 and 390X.

>>55063810
>970, 390, 980 and 390X.
>nextgen still GDDR5

Nope.

Would I see an improvement getting an RX 470 to replace my GTX 950? I feel like my Athlon 860K would bottleneck the crap out of an RX 480, so I'm just looking to get a decent performance boost without getting too unbalanced performance-wise.

>>55063843
yes

>>55063837
Yeah that HBM sure did help Fury X

Oh wait it didnt

>>55063860

If you weren't so stupid you'd realise that it did.

>>55063804
You're gonna need a very big sample size to compare in these cases but historically all scavenged chips would be higher voltage due to the larger voltage range companies target them at, for example an XT would be targeted 1.1-1.19v while PRO would be 1.1-1.24v, thus generally leakier chips but not always, thus, higher leakage.
Though it isn't strange for a PRO chip to have lower voltages than some XT chips, it's really all lottery

>>55063860

How is that related to nextgen AMD and Nvidia lineup?

Do you still using GDDR3 GPU you braindead child?

>6870 dies out of the blue few months ago
>buy a 660ti off some guy tearing down his old SLI rig

Worth upgrading to any of the new cards for ~$500 and be able to do VR?

>>55063885
then why are the Fury (non x) and 390x almost identical speeds?

>>55063921
VR is a worthless gimmick so no

>>55063924
>he can't see the possiblities for VR for stuff other than muh shitty games

I'm not talking shitty half baked VR version ports.

if I have a fury x would it make sense to go to a 490?

>>55063939
There's no waifu simulators worth buying right now especially not for the cost of a VR setup

>>55063923

Fiji is horrifically ROP starved - despite 40-45% more stream processors fiji still only has the 64 ROPS hawaii does.

The only real game that lets fiji stretch its legs is ashes of the singularity, but otherwise fiji scales like shit. Had fiji been given 96 ROPS it would've slaughtered big maxwell, but the nuances of 28nm didn't allow for it.

>>55063397
>30% performance increase with a 30% increase in clockspeed

Yeah...no, performance doesn't scale linear with clockspeeds.

Looks like somebody had some fun in paint that's all

>>55063585
I don't think they'd factor in vendor pricing while trying to drill in their expected price paradigm. You always go as low as possible to make it sound better, like how there's been no mention of the 480 8gb. She wouldn't be saying $300 unless they had a $300 base msrp card.

>>55064002
When the hell did they mention a $300 card?

>>55063736
The tdp is so low, it might be an acceptable to purchase a reference card.

>>55064035

Computex.

>>55064081
Not with that shitty VRM setup and possibly Elpida memory it's not!

>>55063171
>GTX 780 Ti

lol I too have a 780ti and on new benchmarks it performs worse than the 290, nvida drivers suck ass and have terrible planned obsolescence. fuck nvidia

>>55063468

its a science requiring about 10 full 4chan posts

basically how many FPS you have can affect stuff like how big can an upwards angle can be where you can still walk upwards it. With more FPS you can walk up bigger angles and other weird shit.

>>55063078
Nvidia dead in the water as middle ground goes, the performance per dollar is too insane, I dont even think Nvidia wants to compete at that price point and just cash in on the high end retards.

>>55064002
>>55064083
either Computex pricing was a ruse, or they changed direction and decided to go full kamikaze to claw back market share.

the downward price shift also opens the possibility that the cut-down and/or binned Vega variants might come to market sooner than widely expected.

>>55064035
She said it computex and again at e3, something like.
>hi, blah blah blah most gamer's want a gpu between $1-300.
>So here's our full Polaris line up 460, 470, 480 that tops out at $199.

you would only do that if you had another card to show in a week or whatever, otherwise you'd have set your range at $1-200 the whole time.

>>55064128
the thing about high-end nvidia cards is that you're basically renting performance via TWIMTBP for about 2 years.

the cards aren't naturally all that powerful, but legions of driver optimization slaves can polish turds like you wouldn't believe.

after a new card gen arrives and they want to force an upgrade cycle on existing customers, the magic simply disappears.

>poolaris

>>55064198
I think she's trying to leave wiggle room for the RX 480 to edge upwards a bit depending on what Nvidia does with the GP106 in the next several weeks.

If anything, expect the 8GB model to jump to $250-$260 and maybe get a token clock boost.

>>55063171
They don't have to worry about the 780Ti. Nvidia gimped their old cards via drivers so bad that the 960 has equal performance to it.

>>55063272
You know which religion considers all other people as inferior races? Jews.

Jews = Nazis.

According to your logic, anyway.

>>55064163

Computex merely announced cards from 200 to 300 burgers. People assume the 8gb versions of the card will be the 300 burger models (probably with higher clocks).

>>55064203
>TWIMTBP
That's a long big acronym, they need a new tag line.

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>>55064234

>>55064234

the 780ti is roughly equivalent to a 970/980, not a 960. you're thinking of the plain 780.

>still thinks the gimping meme is real

the 1060 will be as fast, if not faster than a 980 was too. how exactly is putting out products with actual performance increase over the last gen 'gimping'?

>>55064261
CrippleWorks™?

If the 470 performs even close to the 290, I'm buying it. It'll probably be $150. No way it's any more than $170.

>>55064302
>If the 470 performs even close to the 290, I'm buying it.

the 470 will be 360x performance. 480 is already slower than both the 290 and a gtx970.

>>55064292
The 960 doesn't have anywhere close to the hardware to compete with a 780Ti, this is nothing more than artificial software crippling.

>>55064312
PROOFS?

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>>55063397
I want Polaris to succeed, but let's not kid ourselves. It will probably be better than the 970/390, but that's about it. Having a card that can OC and deprecate the entire GPU lineup for $200 would be incredible, but they would have definitely mentioned that instead of going with more AotS bullshit. If anything, you should be excited for fatter Polaris. Their full variant will definitely deliver performance very close to the 1070 for $80 less. That is, if we're getting fat Polaris. It's possible that the RX480 is already the XT and the RX470 is the Pro. If so, I'm lost with how they've mentioned a $300 price range

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>>55064312
(You) right now

>>55064312
I heard the 480 is around 950 performance really

What are the odds of RX 460 being <65W TDP?
Aiming for a passive GPU.

Waiting so many years for a proper unit...
Swear VLIW was superior in terms of power consumption.

>>55064248
$100 more for the full ram config on a mid-low range card is insane though.

Difference between 380 2g and 4g is like $20. 290x 4g and 8g were about the same.

>>55064344
im pretty sure she said 460 will be 75w or maybe a bit lower

>>55064312
>>55064335
I too have also heard many unfortunate and completely credible reports about the RX 480.

> someone pls halp setup electronic rupee transfer account, thx

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>>55064319
>The 960 doesn't have anywhere close to the hardware to compete with a 780Ti,

you're right, because the 960 doesn't compete with the 780ti. it's 30-40% slower than the 780ti.

>this is nothing more than artificial software crippling.

you're delusional. nvidia doesn't need to fuck over customers with old gpus, the goyim buy the news ones willingly. haven't you seen the droves of people who wanted to buy the gtx1080 on day one, despite knowing that nvidia will just bring out a new titan and gtx1080ti in ~6 months?

>>55064344
She said it was under 70W
No doubt a polaris 11 part, will probably average around 50-55W going by that battlefront bench a few months ago.

>>55064344
>>55064359
GCN is inherently higher power than other architectures since it has a bunch of GPGPU shit like hardware schedulers that Nvidia stripped out post-Fermi.

Hopefully the long-delay shift from 28nm will finally mitigate this.

>>55064359
Goddammit. That's gonna require one hell of a cooler.
Oh well. Let's hope there's more Polaris 11 solutions for PC on the horizon...
...and that they perform better than their 65W VLIW predecessors.

>>55064363
>4k
>128b bus

Lol
Post 1080p

>>55064363

the gap has even widened since then too, from a 70% relative performance gap to 87%. has NVIDIA found a new way to 'gimp' that actually RAISES performance?

>>55064410

the performance differential stays the same at 1080p, see for yourself

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_960_Gaming/29.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_950/23.html

>>55063196
rx 480 rest is dogshit

>>55064344
>Swear VLIW was superior in terms of power consumption.
I think you're technically not wrong. The main concept behind VLIW is to eliminate redundant components(which use power) and it also removes complicated circuitry used for branching. The problem is that complicated logic stuff has to be handled by the software/compiler side and compilers that take advantage of VLIW based architectures are incredibly complex.

>>55064391
75W is theoretically the limit for the PCIe bus, but I'd be surprised if it was over 50W and didn't use a 6-pin power line anyway.

>>55064326
The policy seems to be to never compare new cards to old ones. Jumping through hoops to get a favorable 1080 comparison is stupid, but I don't think its because the 480 compares poorly to last gen.

They just don't want to get into officially fighting the secondary market of their own products on price/performance, plus the 1080 is all their competition has new on offer so that's all that's left to compare against.

>>55064344

VLIW was considerably better power-wise. The dies were a lot cheaper to produce as well.

>>55063268

no, the regular 480 outperforms the 980, the 480 overclocked outperforms the 980 Ti

>>55063535
no since rx480 will have barely 5-20% more performance

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>>55064344
>Aiming for a passive GPU.
need a new one as well, the HD7750 isn't cutting it anymore.... never has really
AMD pls make it happen

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>>55063837

>Not just factoring in price and performance.

>seriously telling someone to purchase a 28nm GPU
Are you fucking retarded mate?

>14nm/16nm blows 28nm the fuck out

>460 ultra-low-end (100$)
>will have 380 performance

>470 low-end (150$)
>will have 390/390x performance

>480 mid-low-end (200$-250$)
>will have 980->Fury X (oc) performance
>(will see in new xbox/playstation/macs)

>1070 mid-end (350-450)$
>Performance above any 28nm GPU save very few 4K benches where a 980 Ti/Titan X has a 1 extra frame a second lead(all still unplayable)

>1080 mid-high-end (600-700$)
>destroys all 28nm cards by 25%+ performance
>only card capable of playing 4K maxed with acceptable performance


Where were you when all 300 and 900 series cards instantly became worthless?

>>55064312
>the 470 will be 360x performance.
Nigga u dumb, it will be 370x perfomance at least. Most likely 380

>>55064557
Never gonna happen. Just get a normal card they are quiet enough.

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>>55063078
AMD confirmed for faggots

>>55064611

it will be better than 390, again it's a P10 chip with just a tiny bit less CU's than (36 vs 32)

We know the 36 CU is already capable of 980 numbers. a 12% reduction in core count and therefore a 10% reduction in performance still puts the 470 above the 390, but it loses to the 390x..

However the 470 will cost 150$, and it use under 150w. Pretty impressive

>>55064609

>Where were you when all 300 and 900 series cards instantly became worthless?

The magic of polaris is that it effectively kills the used card market. While Nvidia fans think their cards are worth a lot more than they really are (just look at the OCN marketplace for that) polaris more or less guts the market of those that buy a gpu, use it for a year or two and then sell it on.

After computex prices already started collapsing.

>>55064679
Could also be a drop in clocks to get the best ppw points. Ow a low power target like the nano.

Will there by a 2xRX480?

>>55064699
My 7870 will be a wothless space heater, maybe only $50 burgers worth. It is just insane how much power you get for $200. It will be the perfect card for my uwide 34" monitor that im going to buy. I dont play games much anyways.

>>55064756
Gonna do this.

>>55064756

I hope not. reminds me of the 4000x2 series stuff.

>>55064958
the 4870x2 was a great card though.

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AMD BABY

>>55064473
this

>>55063446
They can't shoot at the same time.

>>55064875
RX 480 or RX 470

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>>55064609

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>>55065021
kek

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so for 1080p should I stick with my 280x or is it worth it to upgrade to a 480

>>55063985
it scales pretty well for gpus

has there been said anything about 490?

>>55064677
it's just to show awareness about how faggots have aids.

>>55063985
Someone replaced Titan X with the OC`d 480. Coincidentally, the lower ranked 480 is actually a ~20% underclock.

>>55065077
So where's the actual performance at? 3,500?

>>55065064
no because it quite possibly won't even exist depending on how the Vega cards get named.

Polaris 10/11 lineup is all we'll see from AMD for another 7-8 months barring a miracle.

>>55065077
the titan x was 4027 try again nvidiot

>>55065040
Ask your wallet.

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So I bought a 970 about 4 months ago. What are my options if I want to upgrade to something better? I could either buy a 980ti since prices are now dropping like flies or wait for a 480?

>>55065111
you should wait for the 480 its just like 2 weeks

>>55065111
You should sell your shitty card before it loses even more value.
Thankfully, green card retain more value than red cards for whatever reason, so you might be able to get $300 for it.

>>55065111
based on the image you posted, the 970 is the right card for you.

>>55065050


280x is decent at 1080p except for only the most demanding games. If you feel your GPU gets too hot or you want to use 1/2 the power of a 280x, it's a great upgrade. It will have about twice the performance on average of a 280x, but in 1080p @60fps that only translates to a few games utilizing the power of the 480.....


TL;DR That depends, what games do you play?

>>55065152
But I'm a hardcore gaymer like you anon

>>55065160
I play a ton of stuff, from basic 90's RPGs to new super demanding stuff.

I did notice that for TW3 I have to tone everything down and even then the fps fluctuates from 40-60. I'm no graphics whore, but I'd prefer to not force a game like Witcher 3 to look butt ugly to get my sweet 60fps.

>xbox, playstation and nintendo announce VR capable consoles
>normies are buying into VR
>every "game" will be AAA like cashgrab bullshit with no artistic integrity or passion
this is worse than it not taking off at all desu.

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>>55064609

Fucking this, m8!

/thread

Chip Hell showed the 480 @ 3500 on Firestrike Ultra. I tend to believe it since my R9 290 with a mild overclock is 2835.

>>55065212
That was a fake made by AMD shills...

>>55065226
Everything's a fake anon.
Besides that bench showing Polaris 11 being 5 times slower than a 950.
That was true

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>>55064131
I remember this from "progaming" Quake 2

Having insane amounts of fps made you able to jump slightly higher so you were able to jump on stuff you weren't supposed to jump on.
Everyone did it so it was balanced again.

If you've played Q2 and still remember the maps.. In Q2DM1 (The Edge), there was a room below the way to the upper rocket launcher that had a pile of boxes in it.
If you had enough fps you were able to jump on those boxes, make a double jump on the last one and get onto the way to the rocket launcher, which would normally not be possible from below.

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>>55064344
>>55064557
Fucking Sapphire 270x 0db edition can OC to 1ghz.... Not that it would be much of an upgrade from a 7750. But I`m sure they`ll be rocking a passive 460 or 470.

>>55065093
Right about there, it`s supposed to float just below a Fury stock.

>>55065101
>Tiny difference
>Pointing out that the 480 is actually more powerful than the lower score implies
>Got that HD 7900 series.
>Clearly nvidiot.
Mmkay.

Can`t wait to see how this all pans out myself.

I need maximum FPS so this is a slap in the face by AMD, only Nvidia can provide maximum performance for me who lives and breathes and understands sophisticated software, AMD can go fuck itself with its underperforming common denominator crap!

>>55063397
THERE'S NO TITAN X BECAUSE IT WAS SHOPPED

STOP POSTING THIS, IT'S FAKE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

480 = full polaris 10
470 = cut polaris 10
460 = full polaris 11

That seems about right doesn't it? Since Polaris 11 is supposed to be at least on par with a GTX 950, what does that mean for the 470? There's a big gap in performance between the 280x and the 290, and there's no way it can perform worse than a 280x to be considered a viable 1080p card, it has to fit somewhere in this range or better. Is this the 67DF:C4 card in the leaked benchmarks, or is that the mobile variant of the 480? I wish AMD gave us some info about these cards.

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>>55065310

>>55065326
I see him when I sleep.

>>55065316
More likely 480x is the promised $300 card and full polaris 10, while both 480 and 470 are cut-down parts.

>>55065326
>not my proudest fap

>>55065047
whats that from? its creepy as hell.

>>55063543
if its not using more then 4gb of ram then that's not a bottleneck.

>>55065316
Cut P10 can be anything, 30% less shaders, 20% less ROPs, cut memory channels, lower clocks, maybe all of the above.

>>55065316
>12% less shaders
>slightly lower clocks
About GTX 970 performance

480 = 390x/980/Fury for half price
470 = 390/970 for half price

>>55063171
Vega perhaps?

>>55065358
It already showed up on benchmark sites with 2048 shaders. No info about clocks AFAIK

>>55065348
But AMD already announced the full Polaris lineup, why would AMD not release the fully uncut chip if it wasn't the 480?

>>55063397
where did the Titan X go?

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>>55063078
This over!
Nvidia is finished and bankrupt!

>>55065380
In the recycle bin where it belongs.
What a useless fucking card.

>>55065348
Only 2 hardware IDs for Polaris 10 are known. Both are accounted for with 2048 and 2304 shaders.
There is no bigger one.

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If C4 is the 470, there really is no hope for Nvidia.

>>55065171
Witcher looks good even on medium imo, if you feel like spending $200 then the upgrade is pretty good.

>>55065421
That sounds about right for XT/PRO performance differences.
What's bugging me is that bench alltogether, it was taken like over a month and something ago with god knows what drivers.

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Do you niggers forgot fiji?

It was the same: FURY GON DESTROY 980/970, NANO WILLL BE THE GREATEST SMALL-FORM GPU IN HISTORY

Well, the Fury is quite good, but not good enough, the nano is loud and obnoxious.

Same destiny awaits any poo that isn't swiftly deposited in a designated loo

>>55065421
c4 is 480
C7 is 480x
C7 CF is 480x's in Crossfire.

>>55065445
If only you didn't post a nigger.

>>55065452
There is no 480X you pencildick.

>>55065421
GTX 1060 will probably compete directly with the 470 in price and performance.
Nvidia doesn't seem to have a 480 competitor

>>55065452
C7 is 100% confirmed RX 480 by the Ashes of Singularity database

>>55065472
rx480=480x=c7 (hence the x)

I'm guessing rx470=c4

>>55065452
There is no 480x m8.

AMD announced the FULL POLARIS LINEUP today. There was no 480x. If there was a fully uncut Polaris better than the 480, AMD would've released it, there's no point in making a chip that's gonna get cut everytime, it's a waste of money.

C7 has 36 CUs, which is the 480.

>>55065441
Somehow all of the leaks from videocardz have turned out to be pretty damn accurate, right down to maxwell being significantly faster clock for clock than pascal.

I did just have a sudden realization, though. Now this is going to sound fucking crazy, and it is all strictly hypothetical.. But.

If a 480x is faster than a 980, and can OC to 980ti performance. And a 980ti can OC to 1080 performance. Then where the hell does that put Vega? Because pascall is already straight fucked.

>>55063860
That's because Fury X was using HBM1 which had pretty big limitations.

>>55065452
their naming convention is changing since we're getting a die shrink

>>55063860
and now Fury X is cucking 980ti in most benchmarks, due to Nvidia drivers

>>55065508
It puts Vega with direct competition with GP102, which will release in 6-8 months like Vega
I'd wager GP102 to be somewhere around 3400 shaders(440-480mm2), and around 30-40% faster than a 1080

>>55065508
Vega 10 is enthusiast cards, all we got right now with Polaris is mainstream to bottom of the barrel card tiers.

>>55065533
Thx just emailed this to AMD.

>>55064292
>the 1060 will be as fast, if not faster than a 980 was too.

Sure it will be, once they release the next driver update gimping the 980.

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>>55065533

>>55065533
>more speculation

wccftech aren't stupid enough to break nda si it's quite obviously speculation.

>>55065533
>AMD using boost clocks now
oh boy.

>>55063078
>esports experiences

>>55063183
I like The Burning Crusade too

>>55065581
he literally says he has not signed any NDA

>>55065586
Uhh, AMD has been using turbo/boost clocks since the 7950..

>>55065379

various reports suggest full polaris was broken and failed vaildation, couldn't get above 1Ghz.

So they cut out the parts that were destroying bad clocks.

RX 480 is cut P10
RX 470 is further cut P10
RX 460 is P11

RX 490 will probably be around 1070 performance, maybe just a hair better, but it won't be anywhere near the 1080.

Which is understandable considering polaris is a 200mm die size and 1080/1070 have 300mm die size.

Full P10 may never see the light of day, they might just use Vega 10 as their high-range instead of a pimped out polaris.

Vega 10 has been rumored to ass-rape the 1080. But it won't be out for at least 4 more months, maybe more. It'll probably be 400-600 cut vs. uncut

>>55065100
But muh HBM2.

>>55065580
update your fucking site my man

>>55065352
>whats that from? its creepy as hell.
Prometheus, its pretty good

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Should I sell my Zotac GTX 970 and get a RX 480? If so, how much should I ask for the card?

>>55065624
You're only gonna be able to sell a fucking ZOTAC, and a 970 at that to massive Nvidiots.

So.. $300? People are stupid.

>>55065624
Try to get $250

Expect about $150

>>55065602
not really. If you set a clock on an AMD card it is fixed and the card only clocks down to save power when not under full load.
It's no like Nvidia cards where clocks are unpredictable and you overclock by setting offset clocks and power limits.

>>55065624
it's a good card. if you really want a big jump save up and buy a 1070 in a years time. just OC the fuck out of the 970 for now. you'll get over 980 levels of performance.

>>55065609
>But muh HBM2.
go yell at the gooks to get their shit together faster.

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>the 470 will make the 970 worth about $100 used
holy kek, these greedy nvidiots who are selling their cards fro $200 minimum are in for a BIG surprise.

>>55065639
Informed people in my online groups as much as I could. Saved one person to pain of stupidity swapping 980tis for 1080s. Another was not so fortunate. Paid 300$ for a second fucking 970. OH WELL.

honestly the 480 seems a bit too gud yo be true unless AMD is that desperate to lower the price like that, I'll wait for in game fps benchmarks and the gtx 1060

>>55065706
The 1060 is going to be a huge joke, just like the 960 was.

>>55065718
Not if the rumors of it being a third cut GP104 are true.
But it certainly won't be $200 in this case

Either way, it's not coming out for another 3-4 months, nothing to worry about.

>>55065623
never got around to watching it as i got the bullet points and just didn't think it interesting enough to spend the time watching it.

will get around to it some day though, but not now.

Thank you though, one less thing bugging me.

>>55065718
it would be if the 480 wasn't getting all this buzz but maybe they can price it right, that's wishful thinking tho

>>55064326
where would they announce the 490? computex and e3 are done and now they have like 2 weeks till launch with nothing else going on. This is it. The 480 is the flagship. The whole "we're focusing on the mainstream" is spin. If it wasnt, they'd have something for enthusiasts to upgrade to so they aren't tempted to go green, they just wouldn't make it the primary focus like usual. This whole "all our customers will just wait for vega" is retarded. the 1070 is pretty tempting and I'm feeling the upgrade itch, and people with a 290x probably feel similar. and if I decide I'm not going to wait, and the 1070 impresses me, why would I go red again? AMD has a lot of prove and they're asking me to just wait and basically trust the vega will be awesome. I get the feeling nvidia knew this was the case, which is why they felt bold enough to pull this founder's edition BS.

pretty disappointing for this generation of video cards.

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>>55063078
But what about 490?

>>55065778
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>55065718
All x70 cards and below have been jokes compare to what AMD had at the time. Nvidiots still buy them by the truckload.

>>55063171
the 7950 ghz already beats out the 780ti

>>55065718
Nvidia got lucky that nobody wanted to touch 3xx series Radeons last gen, since it allowed them to leave a massive hole between the 960 at $200 and the 970 at $330.

Everyone who would have normally gone for a ~$250 card was suddenly paying 50% more than they really wanted just to avoid the 960.

The RX 480 being placed where it is almost guarantees that the 1070 does nowhere near as well as the 970 did, and it leaves open the possibility that the 1060 will still be garbage too.

Even a 192b bus might be wishful thinking at this point.

>>55065761
There won't be decent stock for the 1080 and 1070 (20k total units combined for one of the largest EU sites at only at the end of June, which is a laughable joke considering how much wafers TSMC can dish out in a month)
Much less the fucking 1060

>>55065496
Lets assume for a moment that the 36 is cut down from 40, amd will do what nvidia did and if nvidia has something that can put up a fight with amds price performance, release the 40cu, otherwise they cut them all down/disable cores and have higher yield rates overall.

>>55065777
I assume they won't launch the 490 for a while. Also 480 is not the flagship, it just happens to be one the first parts they are releasing. This gen looks great as long as you your budget is less than $300.

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>>55063709
The RX480 might not be as good as the 1070 but for $200-$230 its very compelling.

>>55065761
A third cut GP104 would be 1060Ti.

1060 is GP106 with either 6GB or 4GB of memory. Most likely slower than 480, but also cheaper. Probably $170 or $180

>>55063078
The fuck is up with those gayass ribbons?

>>55065810
If 40CU does exist, then the part if probably being bought out by apple like the tonga parts and you won't see the card for a long time.

>>55063962
No your Fury should preform good for the next year, Wait for Vega.

>>55065777
>pretty disappointing for this generation of video cards.

heavenly trips don't lie.

I was almost aghast when I first learned that Polaris was GDDR5 only and that Vega had slipped to Q1'17 because of HBM2 ramp-up.

I thought that Pascal might be the real deal, but nope, not there either.

But as a Kepler owner, RX 480 being priced so competitively makes the prospect of a double upgrade this generation seem reasonable.

>>55065843
higher binning demands a higher price, i can respect that, so long as what i get is fucking great, and it seems the 480 will be just that.

>>55065843
Or we got a Fermi case here and AMD can't enable the other CUs without instability and a large hit to perf/watt

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>there are people in this thread right now who unironically believe nvidia are going to flop

you can't flop if you have 80% market share. i guarantee you that 90% of people who use gpu buy which ever card is the best selling on amazon at the price they're willing to pay. fun fact: nvidia cards are always the best sellers. go back into your caves amd fanboys. you can rant and rave all you want on a korean knitting board but nothing will change the fact that even if nvidia releases an inferior card to amd they'll still sell way more than amd.

amd fanboys literally crying themselves to sleep lmao. incoming damage control btw.

>>55065843
this would explain why there are no leaks about it. Apple is good at secrecy

>>55063266
silver detected

>>55065836
showing recognition for muslim marksmanship

>>55065863
They mean it literally but nice wall of text.

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But can it run ATI Rage 128 demo?

>>55065893
They don't****

>>55065820
>Crossfiring 2x 480

I wonder if my motherboard support that. That should easily last me 2-3 years if not more.

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>>55065863
>80% market share.
it's 69% Nvidia, 31% AMD/ATI

>>55065603
>Various reports
Link, because what I heard was the uncut parts are prioritized for Applel for now, with a launch coming later.

Also, even when they had to bin GF100 for the GTX 480, there were still uncut parts that were prioritized for HPC fucks. The assertion that the entire core failed qual, but a cut down didn't, doesn't make any sense.

To elaborate I see two cases:
#1: yield issues result in only a cut down being viable
This would result in a 480 situation as described above, but a full core wouldn't fail qual, just be rare.
#2: a design issue results in parts being cut from all cores, but there still would be a "full" 2560 shader part in the end

>>55064131
>
basically how many FPS you have can affect stuff like how big can an upwards angle can be where you can still walk upwards it. With more FPS you can walk up bigger angles and other weird shit.

None of this is true for CS:GO. Where the fuck did you even hear that? Framerates above your refresh rate just make the game feel smoother ala https://youtu.be/hjWSRTYV8e0?t=118

>>55065893
maybe to you they don't. i know for a fact some of them do literally believe amd will run nvidia out of the market. even the uber shill adored tv thinks that. you have to be some serious fucking lowlife to make 2 part series about amd vs nvidia.

>>55065964
Nobody gives a shit, faggot.

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>>55065935
Not him but look the old one...

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-takes-back-market-share-from-nvidia-in-q3-2015.html

>>55065981
yeah exactly, nobody gives a shit about amd.

>>55065998
What the hell happened in Q2 2014 for that large drop to happen?
Bitcoins?

>>55066021
>>55065981
AMD BTFO
Amdtards on suicide watch!

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god fucking damnit AMD i sold my 980 in anticipation of a decent $300 dollar card and your surprise is some league of legends running piece of shit

>>55066036
970 3.5 mega success

>>55065998
that's cards being sold in each particular quarter. Not how many people own each brand.

3-4 years ago 40% of customers were buying AMD and a lot of them still have those cards and are waiting for a good opportunity to upgrade.

>>55066054
just buy the $200 card that beats your 980 then you cuck

>>55065818
what's the flagship? the 490 is mia

>>55066054
Retard. You deserve nothing less than nvidia.

>>55066036
GTX 970

>>55066056
The drop started before the 970 was released.
From 37.9 to 28.4 in a single quarter, that sounds fishy.

>>55066068
480 cf is the flagship lel

>>55066054
> 980 owner making bad predictions about GPU market

old dogs befuddled by learning new tricks I see

>>55065927
multi card setups are not that reliable desu. I tried it and its better to just buy the more expensive card even if you get a little worse performance in the games that support xfire/sli.

>>55066101
More like retarded uninformed clowns get angry at others for being dumber than a sack of shat bricks.

>>55066036
>>55066056
That was Q4 2014

>>55066091
>>55066115
Yeah but Maxwell (750ti) was overhyped them people cuck for the 970

>>55066054
just work an extra few hours and get a worthwhile upgrade to a 1070 or something. don't blame anyone else for your fuckup when amd already announced they're not releasing into the high end this year.

i also have a 980 but i'll sell it when the 1080's drop in price and fags start selling them on ebay on the cheap to buy the new titan or 1080 ti. that's how i got my 980 last year lol.

>>55066099
Is it wrong I see nothing wrong with this?

>>55066036
bitcoins were a factor. buying a 2xx series was really difficult and the 970 was available. People got the 970 and liked it so they didn't look back. the 3xx series brought a lot of market share back though.

>>55066101

it was a b stock 980 and the year warranty was almost up

amd announced a 100 to 300 dollar price range but fuck me for believe them

>>55065778

Vega is the high end series.

>>55066135
CF is not viable with all the compatibility and technical problems it has. A single more expensive card is almost always the smarter choice.

>>55066135
yes because xfire/sli is unreliable, requires specific driver support, and usually features more bugs than a single card solution. Not to mention the janky frametimes.

a single card with similar performance is definitely the better choice (IE, the 1070). If AMD just expects people to buy two 480s they better either magically make xfire work like a dream or be prepared to alienate a lot of people who blame them for the shittyness of multi-card setups.

>>55066199
>>55066202
crossfire/SLI are a thing of the past. DX12 changes how multi GPU works completely

>>55066181
vega is a completely separate lineup. that's not going to be here for awhile.

>>55066219
it's end of this year or early next year and basically a bigger version of Polaris with HBM2

>>55066135
well see, 1070 purportedly isn't much faster. 480 multi gpu could make it look like garbage. Like comparing a single 980 to a 295x2 level.

>>55066218
And how many DX12 games are out at the end of the month

>>55066218
we havent seen a lot of dx12 yet, and what we have seen has been a mutligpu system that isnt as effective as xfire/sli. maybe that will change, but thats wishful thinking. meanwhile, what's the downside of the single gpu solution?

>>55066229
right, like another 6 months. that's a long ass time in the tech world.

>>55066307
Not really in this market where something interesting pops up every 2 years.

>>55066218
Nvidia cards will work the exact same as amd cards when utilizing multi gpu. Why do you think they've limited sli to 2 cards only, it's because they know multi gpu is most effective with 2 cards. Don't expect any of this stuff to be the norm any time soon though. Dx12 will become the development api for all games in 2018 earliest. I personally think it'll be even further away than that. Don't get your hopes up yet.

>>55065101
If you look closely you can see the 9 in the 4094 is squared off a little from where the crop was screwed up copying it from the 3194 bar.

I'm hyped as fuck for the 480, but this new pic is a modified version of the earlier one with titan x in it.

Some rusemaster is trying to over-hype the RX 480 to set up dissappointment when it releases

>>55066181
right, well the reality is that i already waited for polaris and im getting sick of waiting for an upgrade. if I keep waiting for AMD to get their shit together, at this rate I'm not going to upgrade for a long time. meanwhile, the 1070 offers me everything I want and I can afford it, so why wouldnt i take it?

>>55066218
My 390cf don't work Tomb Raider in dx12...Fuck multi GPU.

>>55066333
Those are overclocked figures, most people don't really care for that.
Even if it only does a 20% OC, it's still a fantastic proposition.

>>55065624

I'm in this dilemma now, and my conclusion is, since I'm only playing at 1080p, im just gonna keep the Zotac 970, and if it gets low frame rates, I'm just gonna overclock it.

It handles everything I throw at it in high/ultra settings, witcher 3, GTA V and The Division

Basically, use it until it can no longer handle high end games at 60 fps, even when I turn down the settings. I don't even buy games at launch anyway.

By then, 1170 or 590 should have been released.

>>55066321
exactly; its too early to put your eggs in the dx12 basket. even if in 2017 everything started suddenly releasing on dx12, that would make vega/big pascal the generation to buy for multi-card set ups, not now. More likely, you're gonna buy this multi-card set up which will only be fully utilized just in time for it to become outdated.

If you underclock Pascal to 1666MHz it will go faster as it will switch to a faster firmware

>>55065871
>>55063591

You don't need 300fps.
You won't need 144fps unless your monitor can handle it.

If it's a standard 60hz 1080p panel 120fps will do fine until you're better than people in match making.

>>55065456

>he hasn't played GTA:SA

>>55065445

Fury X was seriously starving for ROPs. Everyone knew at the moment of knowing the ROP count that it would not be performing to previous expectations.

That is not the case with RX480

>>55066417
you don't need more than 120fps, but you want more than 120fps

>>55065603
>polaris 11 is worse than polaris 10
why amd

>>55066435
Because smaller is better.

>>55066333
It's shopped 100% but the score is from somewhere else

>>55065508
>Because pascall is already straight fucked.
Rumor is that Nvidia spent all the R&D on GP100/GP102

>>55065445
>NANO WILLL BE THE GREATEST SMALL-FORM GPU IN HISTORY
Right now it's still the greatest small GPU ever made

>>55065580
Turn off your trip, you piece of shit.
>inb4 some remark about who it is

>>55066460
Makes sense, their DPFP hardware is very old now.

Do you think that the new vega gpu's will make the 480 outdated? I mean, they would seriously make a 490 that have a better performance/price than a 480 r-right? I guess I will wait and probably buy a 480, even if the 470 is a more sensible choice. I had a 7770 for 3 years and I can't take it no more.

>>55065777
>the 1070 is pretty tempting and I'm feeling the upgrade itch, and people with a 290x probably feel similar.
I have a 970 and see zero reasons to upgrade. gsync can go die, no card can push 1440p at high refreshes, and the 970 is good enough for 1080p. I think anyone with a 970/390 and above are pretty daft upgrading their cards. Vega and fat Pascal should be where to look at.

>>55065908
It's sad that a lot of this old demos won't run on modern cards

Which one is the best to replace a 660 with?

>>55066526
We know what Vega is. 64 compute units so, roughly 70% faster than rx 480. 15-20% faster than 1080, slower than 1080 ti. $600 wouldn't surprise anyone.

>>55066526
the new xbox will make the 480 outdated

>>55063171
>he bought a 780ti
JUST

>>55066621
>We know what Vega is
No we don.t

>>55066529
you usually don't upgrade hardware unless it's 2-3 gems ahead.

>>55065639
>>55065644
It's gonna be that hard?

>>55065675
Can't OC because I have a small Optiplex case, although I have a 200mm fan that I might be able to nigger rig in there to get more airflow.

>>55066362
You have the same card?

>>55066626
the new xbox will make pc gaming at that price a rip off. 6.2 tflop of computational power for only ~$400. you'd have to be retarded to spend ~$250 on a 480x 8gb + $200 on a cpu. that won't even include the case, cooler and peripheral. this is the first time since the xbox 360 that a console is actually not outdated by release. it'll be lower midrange.

>>55066682
That anon was talking about a 290x, a card that is on par with last year's rebrand the 390. Besides, Hawaii is almost three years old now, I think that's a nice time to upgrade, but find no reason to upgrade.

How hard do you guys think an FX-8150 will bottleneck 480 x2?

>>55066626
>>55066734
You guys are deluded if you actually think it's going to be $400. I used to buy consoles, but this generation is a fucking joke. The next one will still be behind my current PC.

>>55065777
Anyone who payed high end money in the 700/200 or 900/300 series probably shouldn't be upgrading this summer if they care about their pocket book. Hell the 680 and 7950/70 even are still strong cards for 1080p 60hz.

dropping $450 for a 1070 or $650-$720 for a gtx 1080 is pretty damn wasteful unless you have no current card or a totally insufficient card.

All the fags here on /g/ buying cards to replace their 1-2 year old high end cards for hoby uses are nuts and need to rethink their priorities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktLeS4Fwlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktLeS4Fwlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktLeS4Fwlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ktLeS4Fwlw

>>55065908
I hope they bring back the rage name for the vega cards

>>55066788
this is might be the biggest amdshill channel I ever see

>>55066798
For real though, I've watched some of the vids and he does praise Nvidia at times. I prefer his shit than garbage like LTT, Jayz, KekSyn, etc.

>>55066788
>mfw I wasted hours watching several of his videos yesterday
>mfwmf disappeared

>>55066764
it's not delusion. these console manufacturers buy their components for massive discounts per unit due to the tens of millions of units they're buying. they also sell these consoles at a loss and generally make up for that via sales of complementary hardware and software. ~$400 is a very reasonable price considering the cpu is identical to the one in the current xbox and they're only beefing up the gpu side of things.

they'll probably drop the price of the current xbox one to $250 and sell the new one at $400.

>>55066788
see
>>55065863
>>55065964
>>55066021

>>55066856
he refutes that point in his video

>>55066847
>the cpu is identical to the one in the current xbox
why
Zen will literally launch in less than six months

>>55066950
>zen
>having enough production capacity to provide all these new cpu to sony, microsoft, other corporations and the public

it's an unrealistic target. there would probably be shortages. also the current cpu is piss cheap for microsoft and sony to buy and it doesn't perform bad enough to warrant a total upgrade. it's been leaked that they're just going to overclock it by 1 or 2 ghz. its also an 8 core and don't forget that console devs can extract more from limited hardware than they ever can on pc, even with dx12.

>>55063661
It makes a difference when pixel hunting at range. Besides that you're right.