Can I become as good as him through hard work?

No. You have to be smart.

>>54944011
But what if I work really hard?

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>>54944007
Don't work harder. Work smart.

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>>54944043
Helpless master race

>>54944043
high ability,low effort here

shit sucks

even when you do something good, it still shit because you know fine well you can do better

;_;

I think so, as long as hard work means real mental progress.

>>54944077
You are just a lazy tard, just as everybody else here.

>>54944091

yep, pretty much

No, because he was born with the talent for coding he's got. If you're not already "there" then you never will be.

>>54944020
Yes, you can always outwork them. But there is a catch: to be able to outwork you need to work more than.

It's okay, just give them a nice firm handshake and your resume :^)

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>>54944091
>growing up all the way through high school
>very little effort, get straight A grades mostly, even in AP classes
>so easy never learned to study or try hard on a project
>college
>no longer smart enough to hang in
>fail out, fail life
>don't kill self because I'd fail

>>54944119
>when Carmack was 14, he broke into a school to help a group of kids steal Apple II computers. To gain entry to the building, Carmack concocted a sticky substance of thermite mixed with Vaseline that melted through the windows.

>>54944144
lol wow 2.4 gpa

lolno

>>54944007
No Because
>He was born at a time when computing was a budding industry
>Now Computing industry is so saturated that programming is now taught to even 13 year old pajeets and niggers
>He's smarter than you
>Increased effort may help but there's no guarantee it will work

Yes, and you can have a more attractive wife too.

Seriously, his wife looks like she has some sort of mask on

Who is that?

>>54944007
You'll never get anywhere in life through hard work. Unless your aspirations are to have a fucked up back, and scraping to get by financially. You'll have about the same luck, or worse if you are too smart too. Sorry, but your parents and teachers have fucking lied their asses off to you.

Employers don't appreciate or respect hard work, intelligence, or dedication and loyalty. They say they do, but they take it for granted, and expect even more. They might throw you up to your Co-workers, who will just resent you for it. You won't be paid any more, or given promotion, because you have already shown that you don't need the extra incentive.

No, you need to be just smart enough, and be able to bullshit really well. You need to be willing and able to compromise any personal morality and honor you may have too.

>>54944832
This guy knows whats up.
Learn from him people.

>>54944439
john carmack, master wizard. his early work on engines played a major role in the development of the multi billion/trillion industry that is vidyagaems.

>>54944007
No. You have to be born with the right latent abilities and/or know the right people. Hard work only takes you so far.

>>54944144
Same, it's hard to accept I'm not that genious I tought I was

>>54944439
You need to be 18 or older to post on this website

You can become anything you want.

You just need a lot of time, a lot of friends and a lot of money.

30 and still not there? You're fucked. Fucked I say.

>>54944158
punk rock as fuck

this seems relevant to the thread
>https://hbr.org/2007/07/the-making-of-an-expert

you can do anything if you set your expectation low enough

>Carmack loves pizza. During his time at id Software, a medium pepperoni pizza would arrive for Carmack from Domino's Pizza almost every day - carried by the same delivery person for more than 15 years. Carmack had been such a regular customer that they still charge him 1995 prices.

If you're lucky maybe you could be his pizza delivery man when this one passes away.

No, I think Carmack was autistic.

>>54944043

yeah, life is so easily explainable

if you are retarded and believe tumblr images, that is

there are great, highly talented people who worked their ass off and died poor as fuck and / or emotionally miserable

and there are also people who ride on the success of their parents / their own good looks or social contacts and live much better, financially secure and fulfilling lifes

not saying that effort / persistence are useless, but they are certainly not the only factors at play

>>54944439
>Not knowing the man who popularized ray-tracing and 3D polygons

If it weren't for him you wouldn't be able to play CoD, literally, their engine is based on his

>>54945542
Tell me about the double newline, why do you keep posting it? The image - it was the first result for the image, not really sure why a file name would trigger you.

>>54945542
Life is rather systematic, although I think stupid people will have trouble seeing the right paths or the more subtle details.

>>54944007
>wanting to be a facebook codemonkey

>>54944007
Do you possess a genius tier intellect?

>>54944007
Yes, you too can one day make spyware for Zuckerberg.

>>54945982
>genius tier
not sure but definitely good tier

>>54944158
applelfags will defend this

Maybe you could. I think the bigger problem is funding. If you're going to do game development as a job, you're going to spend a long time just doing what other people tell you to do and not really have any freedom to work on what you want.

>>54944043
the learned helpless guys are the ones with good scores in school though.

>>54944439
Some guy that works for Facebook

>>54944007
http://yosefk.com/blog/10x-more-selective.html

>There's this common notion of "10x programmers" who are 10x more productive than the average programmer. We can't quantify productivity so we don't know if it's true. But definitely, enough people appear unusually productive to sustain the "10x programmer" notion.

>People often assume that 10x more productivity results from 10x more aptitude or 10x more knowledge. I don't think so. Now I'm not saying aptitude and knowledge don't help. But what I've noticed over the years is that the number one factor is 10x more selectivity. The trick is to consistently avoid shit work.

>The 10x programmer will typically fight very hard to not work on something that is likely enough to not get used.

>>54945103
>>54944144
>tfw got an atar of 89
>thought I was smart
>just got the boot from uni because I failed too many times

I should just kill myself.

>>54949398

>smart

Why care about smartness when you can associate your success with something you make? Once you make something nontrivial it will exist as a monument to your skill forever.

>>54949470
I know but I have so much difficulty building up motivation, and it falls apart so easily too.

Some politicians, specially in BR are straight idiots. You don't have to be smart to be someone, just talk to the right people. Humans don't reaaaaly like quality, like vaginas, other humans, food, money, not technology or hard work. Hope that was of some help! Watch some House of Cards and read a little about the human brain, will make you feel better =) Or not =(

>>54944007
Intelligence is mostly a choice.some people choose to soak up more information, some people choose to process the information. Both type of people are useful,but second ones have more creative jobs, they are more useful and therefore get more credit.

>>54949531
Every small thing you add to your project will strictly increase its weight. That's enough motivation for me.

No, it's a meme, the biggest meme/lie ever created, that you can become some through hard work

Everything is biologically determined. IQ, which is around 70% inherited, determines how do in life.

You aren't going to make a professor out of a monkey. Carmack is just a good programmer because he's born intelligent, inquisitive and hardworking

>>54944007
You need to be "smart enough", which is a pretty wide tier, on top of the hard work.

>>54944144
Same but I still went through college without trying. 3.86 GPA. Actually, the harder I tried, the lesser my grades tended to be for some reason. I honestly blame the teachers and professors.

>>54949748
IQ leading to success is not proved nor experimentally, nor theoretically, therefore it shouldn't be taken so religiously.Noone gives a shit about IQ, in job interviews they will consider your IQ if they have a hard time choosing between you and the other candidate, which means that you are nothing special anyway.

>>54944007
You want do thing?
Do thing
and keep doing thing
until thing is what you do.

>>54945103
It comes to most of us. I accepted it just a year ago and I feel better now.

>>54944007
might need a dose of ass burgers

>>54944144
In new Zealand we have a points system when you leave high school . I got 310/320 points and went into engineering at uni ( need 250 points for Auckland uni ) . Dropped out this year with 2.8 GPA

>>54945103
This. Fuck, it hurts.

>>54944439
the guy that made doom

>>54944024
Poor sysadmin. He seems like such a cool dude and then that shit has to go and happen to him, fuck.

No
just give up already

>>54950712
Yay a fellow auck uni drop out!

>>54944366
OP didn't say anything about employment.

>>54944144
>That fall in marks
iktf. Although I'm not doing an IT course, I bombed out with a semester of failing, tooka year off, came back ona aprt time basis, working part time and have gotten straight high distinctions since. You can do it.

>>54949748
If you're lazy, your intelligence won't get you anywhere.

>>54947079
Highschool, maybe.

I'm going to tell everyone the secret that they don't want to hear.

Men like John Carmack would never amount to anything in life if they didn't have opportunists like John Romero to take advantage of them and exploit their skills.

You can see it everywhere. Steve Jobs, completely talentless and wasn't even in the same state when Woz invented the Apple computer. He'd already exploited the poor bastard earlier in their relationship. After returning from a hippy convention, he realized he could make money with this computer and literally ****CRIED TO WOZ'S PARENTS*** to beg them to convince Woz to quit his job at TI to start a company with him.

Being brilliant is only part of it. You need that person who will see that brilliance and not care to exploit you to meet your potential. If you're a shut-in with no friends, basically you'll never amount to anything.

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>>54944007

No, its not 1992 and youre not on the forefront of technology. You are starting off in an already heavily saturated market

>>54952419
That's bullshit. The "everything's been done" mentality is why music and TV are garbage.

When a neckbeard can copy a shitty block game, add some cartoon characters, become a worldwide sensation, and sell it to Microsoft for billions of dollars, anyone has potential. Minecraft's creator was a genius in his own right. He didn't get into mensa for his fedora.

>>54952419
What about the fact younger people are starting to use PCs and keyboards less thanks to passive consumption devices and they need to go out of their way to touch a programming environment unlike the Apple II that defaulted to one?

>>54952457
Irrelevant. Kids interested in figuring out how a computer works will use a keyboard and start fucking around and reading shit. The kind of people you're talking about are the ones who get CS degrees and can't even install Linux.

There's no excuse for modern technology to hamper a true nerd's potential.

>>54952419
Well he didn't do it alone, he worked with people who know game design and had good imagination.

>>54952437
He's not a genius

>>54952437
>right place right time + intense transparent shilling = gyneoos
/g/tards everybody!

>>54945158
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The next best time is now.

>>54947079
>learned helpless guys are the ones with good scores in school though
how come?

>>54952796
right place at the right time? transparent shilling?

there was never a right time for minecraft. it could have come five years before or after. it gained steam on tigsource before anywhere else, and worth of mouth is powerful.

>>54953117
I first learned about it back before classic had slabs from a friend.

>>54949398
92 here and played CoD every single night during hsc, and still got a co-op scholarship to study business. Graduated at 21, left the field immediately and worked retail fixing muh-macbooks whilst travelling the world in between. Nearly 25 and considering going back to uni to do something tech related. Ain't all bad I guess.

>>54952750
He landed a rocket SpaceX style 6 years ago...I think he even did this years before this, but can't find it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Xiq3dYJlM

>>54944077
*cringe*

>>54953664
Was referring to notch

>>54953768
Didn't notice that until after I pressed the button.

>>54952364
TLDR everything is determined not by merit but by social relations and people exploiting each other.

nah

>>54944832
I've never read so much truth concentrated in one post.

>>54944007
good? Yes. Many people are.
Successful? No.

>>54944144

>getting b's in history and c's in general chemistry

Sounds like you didn't actually study at all and you are blaming intelligence

>>54955480
>those apostrophes
What do those grades own, Mr. Intelligence?

>>54955508

I'm an ex NEET of 3 years who just completed his first year in a top 100 school in the world. I'm rough around the edges but at least I learned how to work hard unlike self proclaimed "lazy geniuses"/

>>54955652
Yeah and I just got back from a 5 year expedition on Mars, E.T. says hi.

>>54955698

Its a huge confidence boost when my accomplishments can be considered as lies.

>>54944007
Yes, if you started 30 years ago.

>tfw applied to university 4 times and failed it 4 times.
i'm so stupid

>>54949994
But your resume is determined by your IQ

IQ can tell a lot about a man's future. If your IQ is 85 you're very likely to not have a high pay or a high tech job

>>54945542
Here's the thing, the thing that can really fuck people more than anything else.

Life isn't high school. You're never going to have a perfectly laid out track to follow, so that you can just do better by putting in more effort into it. No, that track was designed by a bunch of people at the top of their respective field, over a course of many years, and it's evolving constantly. But you won't have a team of specialists guiding you throughout your whole life, so, based on your understanding of T H I N G S, you pick a direction and you set sail, and if your understanding was flawed (most people have about 0.1%, brains = survival-engine not truth-engine, i.e people develop incredibly false worldviews (gods in the sky etc.)) chances are you'll have picked a shit direction to go in. Then, no matter how hard you row, you're just gonna be going farther up the shitter.

>>54955962
Kek kill yourself NEET fag

>>54944007
Yes. You could even surpass him. But would it be worth it?

>>54945305
Well this is just good news for OP

>>54955480
Yes exactly I never learned to study

>>54953117
>>>/tumblr/

>>54957303
This is my issue too.. I don't really understand how to study. It has taken me a long time to even understand and properly revise what I read during the day, at the end of my day.

I also have quite bad memory and I'm terribly inaccurate with important words..

>>54944043
>success due to high ability
>not cause of effort
Well then, might as well give up trying to be good at something.

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Can I become as good as him through hard work?

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Can I become as good as him through hard work?

>>54958114
If you want to improve your intelligence, make it a habit to do puzzle games. Sudoku puzzles are great for this. The puzzles you find in your daily newspaper are also great mind training material.

>>54959071
Yes. Read Masters of Doom. When he was a kid, he used to program (text) games for mainframes.
He also programmed the map tools for Wolf3d, Doom, and I think for Quake.

>>54949398
98 master race from back when we called it an ENTER.

tfw working as lawyer chained to the partnership hamster wheel :/

be careful what you wish for anons

the time for being a legend in the gaming industry has come and gone, you are too late

>>54947079
>B
>goood

>>54944832
This is the edgiest shit. You sound like a 21 year old who is pissed he isn't making >40k at his geek squad or landscaping job. At my small company we get annual bonuses and raises. Promotions if you actually put in time and learn. You're probably a bernie Cuck.

>>54944832
Ow the edge

>>54959456
Congratulations for landing a job where your boss(es) feel it's good to promote employees doing good work. This is not always the case. There are plenty of bosses out there in small, medium or larger businesses who do not share this policy in employee work ethics.

>>54959524
Here's the thing, being valued isn't a given. Why would you be valued if you're easily replaceable?
You gotta put some effort in to make yourself an asset, then an employer is forced to treat you right to keep you on. The specific employer doesn't matter.

>>54944832
All of this is only true if you work for a large corporation.
If you work small, you'll be happy.