Name something similar to this, but one that actually respect

>>54933006
Hey OP, go spend some time with your sister. Maybe buy her a kitkat if you're not too broke.

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>>54933029
are you trying to be funny? I'm trying get my friends off of this russian botnet

>>54933083
For real though go spend some time with her. Don't you miss her?

>>54933083
Its not a botnet but they did ruin it by adding useless features no one uses.

Signal is probably the only decent secure messenger left.

>>54933201
>Signal
but is that the most secure?

Signal.

>>54933342
Most likely.

someone help. how do I batch delete slack messages? I found this:
https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner

but I have no idea how to use it

I can install ubuntu on a VM, but I have no idea how to get this thing working. please save me from the botnet of slack

>>54933006
How does it violate your privacy, anon? Wasn't data encrypted only sent between peers?

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why not tox? is it really less secure than signal? (signal doesn't even have a desktop app, just a chrome app, chrome is botnet)
https://tox.chat

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>>54933201
>Signal
>unironically using google play services
>not using LibreSignal
>not using FOSS only

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>>54933849
wat

https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/

is this true?

>>54933865
Theoretically the transport medium shouldn't matter if the encryption is any good.

>>54933865
>LibreSignal
is there a good alternative that uses LibreSignal?

>>54933888
https://blog.tox.chat/2015/07/current-situation-3/
>... forced the Tox development team to disassociate itself from the Tox Foundation, along with its sole board member, Sean Qureshi (aka Stqism, aka AlexStraunoff, aka NikolaiToryzin). We learned by Sean’s own admission that he “took a loan against the Tox Foundation”, and used the entirety of the foundation’s funds on personal expenses completely unrelated to the project.

>>54934095
so, not a single messaging service can be trusted? how can someone trust Signal when their only desktop option is a browser extension?

>>54933888
>https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation
>Mar 31 2016
>2016/04/01/
April 1st

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>>54934134
click on the (NSA) link, see this

>>54933849
If anything, tox is trying to be *more* secure by attempting to hide metadata by being fully distributed and using onion routing. I wish it was more popular so its implementation could get some independent audit.

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>>54933029
>>54933118
tfw no sister

>>54933916
Even Chinese messaging app support end to end encryption

can I just install Mattermost (https://about.mattermost.com) on a Raspberry pi and be done with it? storing everything locally, with no external server or service to worry about?

>>54934232
Yeah but
a. They haven't been audited
b. They don't use AES
c. They are subject, like WhatsApp and Telegram, to SS7 spoofing (and maybe other kinds too)

>>54933006
use fucking irccloud.

>>54933006
Signal

>>54934546
Is this better than AndChat?

>>54934614
I don't know about andchat but I don't think you can find anything better than irccloud.

>>54934552
see >>54934125
>how can someone trust Signal when their only desktop option is a browser extension?

>>54934633
>IRC Client
>Need to register
what?

>>54934633
>>54934546
>IRC
>secure

>>54934692
it offers bnc that's why you gotta register

Wickr is what I use. Signal doesn't work for what I need it to and it doesn't have a PC version.

>>54934841
>Wickr
how secure tho?

>>54934747
No support for other server?

>>54934872

End-to-end crypto, warrant canary, servers outside the us, the bits that matter to security are open sourced

>>54934948
is it really better than telegram?

You want secure, go make your own. Every fucking program wants some kind of data eventually, whether it is bullied by larger companies or policed by governments

>>54934959

I picked up telegram and nobody I know used it, and they didn't want to join.

Wickr, they did. And a decent amount of people use it.

>>54934229
My condolences.

https://threema.ch/en

>>54935135
anyone know anything about this thing?

>>54934348
> b. They don't use AES
that's actually a feature
AES is a form of Rijndael created by the
you guessed it
NSA
the cryptographic scheme that knowledgable people would recommend (despite it's lack of hardware support) is ChaCha20-Poly1305 w/ curve25519. Designed by DJB from the ground up to maximize security. Highest quality crypto there is senpai.

>>54935135
... why on earth are they using XSalsa20 over ChaCha20? ChaCha20 just made shit faster...

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>>54935425
>>54935135
>Threema
https://blogs.uni-paderborn.de/sse/2014/05/09/easily-extracting-encrypted-messages-from-threema-textsecure-and-co/

>>54935537
>https://blogs.uni-paderborn.de/sse/2014/05/09/easily-extracting-encrypted-messages-from-threema-textsecure-and-co/
did you even read that lol

>>54934348
Those Chinese software are also:
a. audited (by Chinese police)
b. support AES

>>54935135
>Threema

>no desktop app

>>54935537
definitely not a fanboy but that would fail on iphones.

>>54933006
just mind opening your own irc server and connect to it via irccloud or install threema and don't mess around with any other app you don't know anything about so you won't fuck anything up.

>>54935794
>threema
no desktop (windows) app

>irccloud
>secure
>privacy
kek

>>54933342
No, but it's the most secure one that is as easy as install+use. Not trying to be a dick, but if you have to ask, Signal is definitely the best option for you. (And really, it is good enough for 99+% of cases)

>>54933916
But regular Signal requires google framework services
No closed source crap on my phone please

>>54933938
An alternative what? LibreSignal is an alternative to Signal. But theres a websocket version that doesn't use google framework services. So you don't need googles crap on your phone to use it.

>>54933849
>no actual blog updates since February
rip

>>54933006
Signal

>>54933006
XMPP w/ Conversations