/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>54892259
Those keycaps are a little overdone.

I'm looking to buy a TKL ISO DE keyboard with MX reds. I want to put Thick Cherry Caps on it, so the board must have Cherry Stabilizers.
The only board that fulfills these requirments seems to be the CM-Storm Rapid i. It looks pretty decent except for all the LEDs i don't need.

Does anyone know if it's possible for cherry key caps to hit the LEDs when bottoming out? If that's not the case I guess I can live with 88 unecessary LEDs...

>>54892259
Those keycaps scream "I'm so ironically cool"

Just bought a ducky shine 5. No idea what I'm doing. Are they alright?

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>>54892259
Why would you do that to a perfectly fine Ducky Shine 4

>>54892360
Ducky's are good.

>Budget
~150€
>Location (continent at least)
Finland
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Brown or Clear
>Layout
ISO PC105 (FIN/SWE)
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
No.
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech K120 aka the sub-20€ king

>>54892629
Get a fullsize in whatever ISO and some keycaps from corus-keyboards

Post a ranking of all the switches you have tried

MX Red > MX Brown > MX Blue >>>>>>>> MX Clear

>>54892714
Buckling spring > mx blues > mx reds >>>>>>>>>>>>> mx browns

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>>54892714
TOPRE>Gateron brown>whatever else

>>54892733

Why does /g/ hate browns so much???

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How bad are Blacks for typing speed?

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>>54892754
scratchy, gritty, not really tactile
might as well buy reds

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>>54892714
Let's see

Topre > Gateron Clears = MX Clears > Blacks = Reds > MX Green > Dampened Cream Alps > Zealios > MX Blue > Shit on a stick > Nothing but Shit > Browns

>>54892754
They're the least tactile cherry. Get linears or get blues or clears.

>>54892787
Just like any other switch.

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>>54892883
I forgot to add

Gateron linears > cherry linears

>>54892754
They are the worst feeling switch and they have no place. They act as poor linear switches and poor mechanical switches while trying to be both

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what do you think about this wrist rest

>>54893005
Holy shit that looks like a cancer

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>>54893005
JUST

>>54893035
might be a little short

>>54893035
I sure hope you don't intend to spend more than 15 bucks for that piece of wood.

help I think I'm going to sell my novatouch and get browns or some shit because the novatouch doesn't just give you force free typing

I hate having to press down when I type

>>54893310
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-wooden-wrist-rests

>>54893350
45g Topre is already quite light, but I guess you could get something with gateron clears if you want something even lighter.

Is the HHKB very different from a Realforce?

At the moment I use a 60% Filco at work and a 100% at home with mx browns but want to switch to Topre.

>>54893592
What do you think I can get for a used NT?

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>>54893630
realforce are metal plate mounted, and the HHKB has the switches molded into the abs case

it gives a different feel, and most people say it feels better

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Holy shit it keeps happening. The keycaps are really nice, but why the fuck are they so brittle. Is it because of my mx clears? I almost don't want to buy any pbt anymore.

>>54893783
>Is it because of my mx clears?
yeahp
they fit super tight for no good reason

but gateron caps are also know for being shit, which sucks, because pbt cherry profile is a great idea

>>54893673
Thanks, guess I'll buy a HHKB first and see if I like Topre, also the layout seems interesting to use. Do you know a good place to buy them in EU?

>>54893880
>Do you know a good place to buy them in EU?
amazon?

>>54893783
are these from the "Blank PBT Keycaps" massdrop?

>>54894001
They are the same ones, but I didn't get them from massdrop.

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For typing speed and comfort; Outemu Blacks vs Blues vs Browns vs Gateron Brown vs Blacks?
Gaterons cost $25 more than the Outemu though, I just want a keyboard that I can type fast comfortably on

>>54893809
Any idea what type of adhesive I should use to glue the cracks back together? Would PVC cement work?

>>54894326
Is this how the japs work for 20 hours a day

I'm gonna buy a pok3r from amazon de. Any way to get it cheaper in the EU?

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>>54894513
He actually draws everyday for 14 hours on stream and I've got gigabytes of them recorded, he's god damn incredible and pretty much the best Manga artist still drawing

>>54894764
Source?

Is it hentai or just normal manga?

>>54894815
did a google search and it looks like pron to me

but no results for image search on sad panda and I can't read moon from google

>>54893005
>space key

>>54892883
>least tactile cherry
>not reds

>>54895280
Amongst the tactile cherry switches obviously

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>>54895148
It's not porn, just a lot of teasing

>>54895345
I still can't find this shit with google

>>54892714
MX Blue > MX Clear > MX Green > Novatouch Topre > new 4mm travel membrane > MX Brown > new chiclet > MX Black > MX Red

If they made a quiet switch that felt exactly like a blue, I'd pick that shit up instantly.

>>54895345
>a lot of teasing
And now you're doing a lot of teasing by not telling us the name.

>>54895446
matias quiet click

i'm thinking of buying a G80-3000 with blacks, desolder all the switches and replace them with gateron reds or mx reds and backplate-mod it. is this a retarded idea?

Who /reds/ here?
Maximum comfy

Any pok3r owners here? Do you also accidentaly tap on alt+space which fucks up your bindings? Can that be somehow turned off?

>>54895489
>>54895386
I think it's Tsugumono, written by Hamada Yoshizaku.

I really wish I could read Moon.

>>54895665
I just get this sci-fi manga with that

Goddammit just tell us anon

>>54892714
Tried them all, blue is best for me, then red, then clear.

>>54895749
http://myanimelist.net/manga/14369/Tsugumomo

I'm not the anon who posted it, but I think that's correct. Kukuri has the same name and appearance as the girl from the first image.

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i'm in love with these cherry dyesubs... i dont even use them but dont want to sell them either.

>>54895749
google reverse image search -> Tsugumomo

>>54895280
fucking lmao dude

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I said fuck mechanicals and bought this rubber dome K40.

First thing I noticed was the brightness of the LEDs was MUCH better than the brightness of the mechanical k70. Look at the picture. The K70s will blind you, but the K40's LEDs are purely and beautifully functional. They'll let you see the keys in the dark without blinding or distracting you or lighting up your ceiling.

It's also quieter, and I can rest my thumb on the space bar without setting it off every 2 seconds.

Get fucked, mech noobs.

>>54895801
>I bought a piece of shit and was dissatisfied with it hence all mechs are bad and suck

good job anon

>>54895654
update your firmware

anyone know of a keyboard that is extremely easy to clean?

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>>54895992

>>54895992
chiclet keyboard

>>54892754
It's just flavor of the moment, come back in half a year and everyone will shit on reds and blues

>>54895992
There's those dishwasher proof ones. They're not mechanical, but hey, you can toss them in your fucking dishwasher and be done with it.

>>54896011
those keys look like they are a huge pain to remove and put back in

Where do I get leopold 660M keycaps sets
Fuck this spacebar and right shift.

is this a good deal?

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=102542

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>>54896122
That's a good enough deal for a Ducky Shine 4, but you should get it with clears (or get the newer Shine 5 if you really want browns).

On the note of which, I have a Shine 4 with Clears that I've been looking to sell if you're interested.

>>54895928
Wow, they fixed it just a month ago. Nice

Do Mx Blacks and Reds have the same stem?

>>54896240
Pretty much, it's just a difference in the weighting of the spring.

>>54892259
The fact that the number row is made of Mahjong tiles yet doesn't use the character suit triggers me. Because it'd be actually kinda neat to have a Mahjong themed key-set if it was done right.

>>54896240
Get reds if you type softly

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>>54895749
>>54895386
wtf anon how are you not finding this
>>54895665
yes it's Tsugumomo
yes there's translations

>>54894326
I am jealous of his passion and work ethic

but i am not impressed by his work

http://imgur.com/a/11NWj

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is 2kro enough if you dont gayme at all?

>>54896476
You don't need to type slowly with reds. You just need o-rings.

>>54896639
The art is pretty great, he's an /ic/ fav

>>54896691
I've had people tell me that they have no problems playing FPS on Model M's with 2KRO, so I'm quite sure you'll have no problem with typing.

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>>54896591
>>54896639
>>54896746
Mind if I ask what about the art it is that's so great?

There may be something I'm missing, but judging from what I've seen posted here the art doesn't look all to special to me. It's good, but I could pull a number of things from my shelf right now that would be at least as good if not better in terms of art.

>>54892259
I've decided to get my first mechanical keyboard, but I'm not sure about the switch. Main uses would be shitposting and programming, also games, but not that often. I don't want something too noisy or too heavy, what do you guys suggest?

What's a good PBT set for quickfire rapid?

>>54897722
Reds.

>>54897722
It's between reds and browns.

But mechs are overhyped, dude. When you get yours I guarantee you the first thing you'll notice is that you can't rest your thumb on the space bar anymore. Otherwise, your typing w il l lo ok lik e th is.

>>54897868
Reds are noisy because they bottom out so easily. If you get reds, get o-rings to make them quieter.

>>54898106
Stop typing like an ogre / stop buying pussy-ass switches
>>54897868
One of the reasons people say mechanicals are a meme is that they are hyped with promises of superior tactility and they get some shit with reds or browns
>>54897722
Buy a switch tester.

>>54892714
Topre 55g > Topre 45g > MX Blue > MX Clear >> MX Brown = MX Red

>>54898197
>hyped with promises of superior tactility
>reds or browns

Literally what the fuck? You've just described the entire spectrum of mechanical switch feelings. Blacks are just slightly stiffer reds and blues feel the same as browns, what extra tactility is there to be had outside of those two switch types?

>>54898252
>blues feel the same as browns
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

>muh autistic blue switches to wake up the entire house

rofl xD

>>54898252
>blues feel the same as browns
kek

>what extra tactility is there to be had outside of those two switch types?
Topre and Matias Quiet Click. Don't EVER use Cherry MX if you want tactile switches. Clears or ergo clears are acceptable, but clears are heavy and ergo clears require modding.

Im gonna say i win this thread.
>Why, you conceited fuck?
I use an old ps2 gateway 2000 keyboard.

>>54898328
are cherry mx switches bad?

>>54898328
>Topre and Matias Quiet Click

Right, but we're trying to buy a useful keyboard, not a novelty item, you stupid autist.

>>54898374
No, but they haven't made a good light tactile switch yet.

>>54898374
No, they're just inherently linear. They're fine if you love linear switches, but their (quiet) tactile switches are still inherently linear.

I love blues though (when I'm not annoyed by the clicks).

>>54892883
Now I regret my zealios purchase :(

>>54898426
Why?

>>54898393
>we're trying to buy a useful keyboard, not a novelty item, you stupid autist.
I'd suggest you get a 20 bucks rubber dome in that case

>>54898426
If you enjoy them then it's perfectly fine. I wasn't very impressed with them myself, but there seems to be plenty of people who like them.

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LMFAO

>>54898523
Don't knock it until you try it.

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>>54898523
You sure are quick to find out

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>>54898523
Let us compare Topre with Cherry switches.

>high durability and consistency over time
Check.
>mid keystroke activation
Check.
>replaceable keycaps
Check.
>no rubber
Nope. Topre uses a rubber dome to provide superior silent tactility. The domes are bigger and higher quality than those of your typical rubber dome keyboard.
In contrast the silent but tactile Cherry switches are kind of an afterthought, created by putting a slight bump in the plastic of a linear design. Even Cherry were surprised by their popularity.
>physical contact point
Nope. Topre switches instead sense the chance in resistance as their spring compresses, unlike a typical rubber dome keyboard which relies on contact surfaces being pressed against each other. This difference greatly reduces wear.
In contrast Cherry switches have the slider rubbing against a metal leaf that bends to make contact. This makes that bent metal leaf a very common point of failure.

>>54898702
>rubber dome
>high durability

kek

>rubber dome [...] provide superior [...] tactility

kek

>>54898787
Back to
>>>/v/
with you.

>>54898801
Shouldn't you be the one going back to /v/ since that's rubber dome territory?

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>>54898523
>he doesn't feel oneness with the cup rubber

>>54898833
>he doesn't meme memeles with the meme cup memebois

>>54898879
are you even trying

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>>54898523
>>54898787
>>54898818

>muh not rubber dome

>>54897139
why are you quoting me, i told you it blows

but anyone with enough passion to do it for 14hrs a day has my respect

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bros what cherry switch is the closest to the IBM Model M? It definitely isn't Cherry MX Blue.

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>>54899496
greens
but those are really just blues with a heavier spring

there really isn't one

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>>54893783
good PBT doesn't do that.

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>>54895796
sell to me pls.

>>54899593
do you think there would be some delay/low polling rate if I use a PS/2 to USB adapter?

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first for $40 topre spacebars

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Where can I get this?

Can someone explain the difference between gateron switch and cherry switches? I'm very familiar with cherries

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>>54900020

Gateron has smoother stems

Gateron left, Cherry right

>>54900020
gateron is a cherry knockoff. cherry lost patent exclusivity and now there are a bunch of copycats. currently you pay for QC when you pay the extra for cherry

>>54900086
>QC
Meaning what? Quality control?

>>54900098
yup

>>54899662
no.

I have not found any spanish mechanical keyboard yet....?

Wich company offers different layouts?

>>54900150
Mexicans are too smart for the mech meme.

where are the 40% endgame keyboard users here?

>>54900098
>Quality control
haha, nah
it's just because they're made in germany
inflated price
gaterons are a lot better

>>54900206
>too poor for the mech meme

>>54900283
soon

like, massdrop soon
so next year maybe

>>54900150
what fucking spanish are you fucking typing?

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>>54900283
really want a walnut planck, but i don't know if they will ever come back on massdrop

>>54900020
Gateron:
>new knockoff of cherry
>durability yet to be seen
>smoother feeling than cherry

Cherry:
>tried and true mechanical switches
>what every new company absentmindedly copies, including color
>if you press the key slowly, you feel a slight rough grind on the way down

>>54892754
Tweens easily led by what is en vogue

Greens>blues/browns>>>>>>>>any linear

>>54900854
switches are a personal preference, but this is just objectively wrong

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>>54892259
Do any companies sell mechanical keyboards with this layout?

>>54901251

go back to the 70s

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>>54892259
I just bought an ajazz geek ak33 with blue switches
Anyone have any experience with these? It'll be my first mechanical keyboard

>>54901897
Symbolics was founded in 1980, so technically he'd have to go back to the 80s.

>>54901251
I'm not aware of anyone currently making lisp machine keyboards.

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i plan on buying a G80-3000 LPCXX-2 (love the black case) and replace the springs of the mx blacks with mx red ones. will this feel any different than stock mx reds?

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>>54897139
This is one of those things you won't appreciate till you begin drawing yourself, genuinely

Look at how he draws cloth, how his gestures just flow, how accurate his anatomy is.
He completely destroys artists like Murata and Miura in those aspects, the only person I could think of who is better than him is Takehiko Inoue

>>54903527

It's called tracing dumbass. He took a photo and redrew on top of it. All artists have been doing that shit since antiquity.

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>>54903549
I have ass loads of his streams on record, he rarely traces (pretty much only for cover shots really) because he says costumes are too expensive and it takes too long for a photoshoot
And really do you honestly think an artist who can draw like this would have his skill stem from tracing?

Should I get Gateron Browns or Blues?

I used to use a Model M many years ago. Currently using shitty cheap rubber dome just about anything would be an improvement on.

I don't necessarily want to go all the way to buckling spring, because choice is very limited and I would like NKRO. We don't really mind noise.

I type on ISO 104 key, GB layout. 30 years in ISO, so I'm not changing.

I was thinking either Cherry MX Greens or Matias clicky switches. I'm kind of drawn to Matias but I'm worried about the relative selection of boards and keycaps and I might have trouble getting ISO layout.

Floating keycaps boards look nice but how are they to type on? To clean? And how do they react to a cat sitting on them? (Like it or not, this is going to happen.)

Any thoughts/advice?

>>54897139

>all that loli stuff

Kinda gross.

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>>54904020
What's wrong anon? Don't you like cute things?

my friend fucked up my keyboard with browns with tea.
if i was constantly bottoming out browns, what should i get? clears? blacks? i hate the loud clacky shit it annoys the fuck out of me so dont say blues

>>54904437
Bottoming out really idn't an issue per se, but yes, blacks or even more so clears should suit you quite well.

Should I wait for the pok3r rgb? I really like the light functions of it, but it's basically the same board as the regular pok3r with flashy shit.

It's either get that or take a suggestion for something better in the same price range and 60% size.

Is there a better Topre keyboard than the HHKB2?

Can i use ANSI keycaps on an ISO mechanical keyboard?

>>54903727
All the cherry mx switches feel practically linear. Matias clicky is your best bet, V60 and V80 are nice modern options.

But you gotta give up on the iso layout.

>>54903527
How does he destroy miura? His art has been on point for decades.

>>54901251
Closest would be the Hyper7, probably.

>Companies
No.

>>54903727
Model F.

how much heavier than mx red springs are 55g GON springs?

>>54907708
I dunno anon, how heavy are mx reds?

>>54907842
any other springs you can compare them too?

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>>54892259
>those keycaps

>>54908026
I was implying that you should use google to look up the weighting of mx reds and then compare that value to the gons springs.

>>54908321
the construction between the springs differ and it depends on whether they measure actuation or bottom out force.

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I've got to ask, why do people want NKRO? I've only ever felt the need to press 5 keys at once, and that was when I still played games.

Considering a set like this since I can touch type and think it looks kinda neat. You think it's worth getting custom keycaps?

>>54909334
What keycaps and keyboard?

>>54909334
Emacs users

Where can I get a cool esc key?

Realforce 87U or gtfo.

Man I wish there was a programmable topre keyboard. :-(

>>54909920
The HHKB is if you use Hasu's controller.

Or use a teensy for that matter, people on geekhack have done that with HHKBs, I'm fairly sure it wouldn't be a problem with any other Topre keyboard.

>>54909998
Would be interesting to try teensy on 87U. Im using the 55g version and don't think the lighter HHKB will be enough for me.

Thanks though!

>>54910108
You can also get an HHKB and gut your realforce for the 55g domes.

>>54910140
Damn that sounds expensive. Will need to decide... I've been meaning to get and build something custom like an Octagon with with Zealios. But the best group buy probably won't happen for a year.

Also looking at WhiteFox but damn it's hard to make a decision without trying Zealios beforehand.

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>>54910199
I actually was waging Zealios against Topre some time ago (prior to me getting my HHKB), and upon having gotten a sample of both I ultimately went for Topre. Zealios felt like cherry clears, with the same sluggish tactile bump, a bit smoother and without the increasing force after bottoming out. Ergo clears or simply clears both feel better than zealios imo.

>>54910302
I actually had an Ergodox with clears but I hated that scratchy/sandy feeling that MX switches have. Only reason I was considering Zealios was cause I heard they were smoother.

It looks like I have some experimenting to do. Thank you.

>>54910419
Cheers, have fun and keep us posted.

Do you have any pictures of your Ergodox?

>>54895801
>not just taking a k40's leds and putting them on the k70

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>>54910436
Here you go. I ended up selling it. I do miss the layout (although I never got accustomed to it since I have a very weird typing style).

>>54910626
Nice, I like the aesthetic of that, though I'd have put some flatter screws on there

>>54910696
Yea they were kinda pointy. I just used the ones that came with Massdrop since I was so excited to build it (my first custom keyboard and first electronics project). :-)

>>54892537
you can change the switches on the magicforce?

What's the best 60% board out there besides the pok3r. I wanna grab one but I want to spend less than $100 for it.

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>>54910828
You can if you desolder them and put in other ones (or cut the PCB to pieces and handwire everything like I did)


>>54910779
Nice, keep it up anon. DIY is one of the greatest pleasures man can feel.

>>54893880
i live in iceland, and i got it from amazon, it was for 200$, but with shipping and import fees they upped it to 300$ and it shipped in 3 days. which is pretty good.

it took my about 2 hours to get used to the caps lock in the middle, and it;s excellent. the key feel is pretty good, its tactile, but not clicky, i think 55g force to press down. could be 45g

Okay, got the soarer's converter hooked up to my IBM EMR keyboard. I think my keyboard tray is going to snap under the weight of this thing.

Typing on it, layout aside, is a different experience than anything else I am used to. I stray toward lighter keys, and these are a bit heavy for me, I think.

Next step is to enclose the controller inside a case. I had to desolder the cable from the DIN connector as it was frayed, so I've soldered the controller directly to the end of the cable. The metal, inner sheath is also a bit frazzled at the end, so I'm going to hide it inside a project box I got locally.

It's nice to see that all the keys work, though.

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When your keyset cost more than the keyboard...

>>54910302
Zealios feel like cherry because they are custom ordered gatron cherry clones

keyboard noob here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLdZy56g8o

are these two the best? and which one is better?

>>54912676
Get out.

>>54912676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKTwoW51AkI

>>54912688
so neither?!?

i am asking for gaming

>>54912720
neither

>>54912717
>building a keyboard
literally wat

>>54912734
he is just memeing you should get a ducky, filco, or a das or something like that corsair and razer are shit basically anything marketed twoards gamers are

>>54912734
is that difficult to understand?

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>>54912777
>das

>>54912777
is no meme, I can't wait to order these on the next drop. With that said i agree with the other options you've laid out.
Avoid razer. Take a k70 if that's your literal only option.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/silica-gel-keycap-set

silica seems weird but cool at the same time. how do these feel? worth getting?

>>54912968
are they not good? ive only heard good about them.
i don't quite agree with the aesthetics but thats subjective ofc

>>54913028
They're expensive for no real benefit. The TKLs switched to a knockoff brand of switches for cost savings with no corresponding price reduction.

>>54913015
yea i know the plank is not a meme but recommending it to someone considering to get a razer for the intent of gaming is quite memey

>>54912777
thnx

>>54913063
just wondering, is the razer material/quality bad for it's cost compared to most other keyboards?

also, are cherry mx reds similar to razer keys?

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>>54913097

>>54913028
There's nothing wrong with Das as long as you do your research. Some of them sell with Cherry switch clones now.

>>54913097
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1540

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Fags

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Hey, why do those keys glow so odd? Anyone with the same problem?
KB is Ducky shine 4 with mx clear

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>>54913175

>>54913107
so you would say that the razer keys are better than mx reds?

i could not agree with you more

>>54913097
>just wondering, is the razer material/quality bad for it's cost compared to most other keyboards?
yep razer build quality is garbage
>also, are cherry mx reds similar to razer keys?
reds are a light linear switch which i think are comparable to razer oranges(?) the more common razer green switch is like cherry blues but cherry are higher quality switches

>>54900711
Me too. There's nothing like it, and you can't find them anywhere else. It's a damn shame

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Is there a retail mechanical keyboard that has this sort of brushed metal / minimalist aesthetic? I really want to get a mechanical keyboard but a lot of the options are either Windows 95 / Vaporwave-y or XTREME GAYMEN.

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>>54913231

>>54913301
http://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Lolita-Spyder-Switch-PC/dp/B00T1P80XY
this is kind of close

>>54913328

Looks pretty good, thanks, but I'm looking for one in full-size too if I can find it.

This one is gorgeous but pretty fuckin' expensive.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=493

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hey fags post more pictures of your boards

>>54912717
It's like he couldn't possibly shill massdrop any more

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>>54913372
yeah and it's out of stock and not likely to be back any time soon

metal cases are a lot rarer than they should be in MKs
and they are usually expensive

>>54913200
pls?

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>>54913200
>>54913464
Press FN+F12 and read the goddamn user manual it came with.

>>54913464
see >>54913325

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>>54913423

Ugh, this is killing me. You'd think it'd be easy to find a nice, metal, clean, minimialist mechanical keyboard without red backlighting, extreme logos, the aesthetic of Michael Bay's Transformers and the word "GAMING ELITE" plastered all over it. Especially because mechanical keyboards are fairly premium and designer as it is.

To add insult to injury, this looks pretty great, but as you can see on this Amazon page, if you don't want brown switches, you need to get the edition with this FAGGY RED RACING STRIPE ON THE SIDE. FUCKING WHY? Why can't you just let me have the blue switches on the one that looks normal? Fucking Christ.

http://www.amazon.com/Azio-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-MGK1-K/dp/B010M53SLU/

I think I'll probably end up getting the Logitech G610 if nothing better comes up (pic related). I don't like the plastic-y look but at least it doesn't look offensive.

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>>54913373
'Kay.

Enclosure complete. Internals are "reasonably" secure. USB B for funsies.

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Been using this for a week now and I think KBT browns are actually better than Cherry. They have a slightly lighter actuation force which feels better to me.

>>54893005
this is literral rape

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>>54913554
you can try looking around on aliexpress for something you might like

like this
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-108-White-Blue-Backlit-Crsytal-Antighosting-Double-Shot-Keycaps-Multimedia-Gateron-MX-Switches-Mechanical-Gaming/32667208368.html

>>54895992
Only the suction cup master race shines in this field, mechanigger. Pretty much every suction cup keyboard nowadays allows you to just remove the board and run it under the faucet.

That's right. I coined a new term for you spergs.

>>54913697
I meant rubber dome.

Yes, I look like an idiot now, but I strill owned you spergs.

>>54913554
the VB87m with aluminum case is fucking glorious but idk if there is a full size version

>>54913554
If you want minimalistic just get a poker 2.

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>>54913719
>>54913554

>>54913325
pls give me link to this so called "google"

>>54913554
>You'd think it'd be easy to find a nice, metal, clean, minimialist mechanical keyboard
No I wouldn't.

God how i wan't a cherry mx lock switch. Why don't those exist?

>>54914257
>Why don't those exist?
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Lock

because they do

>>54914316
>https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Lock
That's great, they have existed. But i knew that.
Now show me were i can acquire one.

>>54914343
Organise a groupbuy.

>>54914343
There was a group buy not too long ago. Also, Jack sells them.

Do any 60% boards have fn key as a toggle?

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>>54913958

God, why?

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Just bought a Tomoko mechanical pretty cheap. Knock-off blue switches, reviews were pretty good, and it's "spill-proof."

Has anyone used any Tomoko keyboards before? Any opinion on what they're like? I'm not a keyboard aficionado and this will be my first mech keyboard in the past few years. Good one to start with?

>>54913301
The Magicforce keyboard with silver looks pretty good. Just got mine in the mail today. It only cost 40 dollars. Instantly replaced my poker.

>>54915497
What brand are the switches?

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Rate my photo

>>54916266
shit

>>54915377
a) Gaymurs are the biggest target market for mechs
b) Proper alu cases are expensive

>>54916266
potato/5

>>54916363

fuk u nerd what do u know about photos

What moderately inexpensive switch lube to buy for tactiles?

>>54916464
Doesn't take a genius to know that your photo is a piece of garbage.

>>54913752
Where do I find classic beige blanks,dear friend.

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Keyboard Shoppe

>>54916709
Group buys, but none are active currently. They're far from rare though so just wait and lurk Massdrop and keyboard forums.

...or you order from China yourself and pray.

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should i buy this lol

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>>54917491
yeah lol
it probably has salmon apls

>>54917491

fuck yeah those are a hundo on ebay

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>>54917582
>>54917599
sorry but i bought this one instead

>>54917657
good job

>>54917657
Nice SAs!

>>54917657
>comic sans

i need something for 25$

What are the advantages to new mechanical keyboards vs the IBM from 20 years ago

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>>54918285
the keycaps man

What's up with HHKB's popularity? Is it a great keyboard, or do people like the look of them?

Is there any difference between a kbpv60 and a pok3r?

>>54919014
yes

>>54918961
both

>>54919032
The most significant differences would be?

>>54916709
You have to buy two sets though.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[match]=all&s[search]=blank+gateron&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[cid]=9&s[subcats]=Y&s[mid]=0

mmmmmm i need to get rid of these orange label keys my ducky one came with

>>54919051
Pok3r has an aluminum case and PBT keycaps

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Which one?

Brown is obviously for pussies, so the debate is pretty much between red or blue.

>>54892259
you have a gay keyboard, bitch

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>>54919187
really tempted

>>54919197
But the boards themselves have the same functionality? Or are there no layers on the kbp?

>>54919199
Why no heavy switches?

>>54919218
There are no custom programming layers on the kbp.

>>54919238
So I'd just end up with the 60 keys they got on them right now, with no other key functions? Why the fuck does that board even exist then?

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How do you feel about wrist rests?

>>54892714
MX clear (45g springs) > buckling springs > MX blue > MX clear (stock) > MX brown > ML

What's the best wrist rest for a ducky shine 5?

>>54919441
Air

>>54919267
Wrist rests are fine, corsair is shit though.

>>54919303
>MX clear (45g springs)
can you even do this? i thought mx clears got stuck under ~55g

Find me please a tactile gray or the green one in the bottom right with leds for $70-80 and do it now

Can rubber dome keyboards have mechanical bouncing issues?

Why are blues the best switches?

>>54920300
They are the worst.

>>54920362
Bullshit, they feel amazing.

>>54920583
All cherry's are shit

>>54920592
Not what reddit says

>>54906666
Thanks for the advice (and the quads). Like I said, 3 decades in ISO, so I'm not changing. Matias do ISO UK, I see, but the bottom row is nonstandard.

>>54906874
I saw the "new Model Fs" but they unfortunately don't go wide enough or in the layout I want.

Looks like I might be getting a Matias clicky board custom built then. I'd better find someone else to do the soldering!

>>54921953
>I'd better find someone else to do the soldering!
Soldering is dirt easy. Do it yourself you lazy fuck.

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So quick question- i got one of these cheapo keyboards (Not my first mechanical keyboard, but the first one I've wanted to actually open) and these stabilizers and keycaps look weird, aren't the stabilizers and sides of the caps supposed to be in the shape of a cherry key stem (i.e. a cross)

Switching the keycaps with my other keyboards caps (which look normal) yield no issue, the keys fit fine and they don't feel like they have any extra wobble. Can I buy Cherry style stabilizers, and should they fit into this keyboard? Everything else spacing-wise is standard, so I don't imagine that they should have any issues fitting, and if they do oh well I have extras for my other keyboard for some freak accident.

>>54922094
I've done soldering before: my hands shake. I know I suck at it, so I'll ask a friend for that bit.

I also know someone who's extremely good with wood. Someone mentioned a keyboard with a walnut base earlier in the thread - does anyone have one? Does that work well? Maybe I should dust off the CAD.

Is there anyone who'll do custom laser-etched baseplates?

Looking around it does seem to be challenging to find keycap sets for Matias. Any suggestions? Do Signature Plastics do ALPS/Matias keycaps?

>>54914435
Elaborate please. Who is this jack?
also i assume i can mod a soldered switch with the innards from an MX lock?

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>>54922728
I'd recommend making a bottom row like on the old apple keyboards for your keyboards since old AEKs can be picked up quite cheap in a variety of layouts and have some really nice PBT dyesubs on them.

You can use this here to build a backplate for your keyboard:
http://builder.swillkb.com/

The keyboard in pic related has a base cut from a solid block of Maple. Works great.

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>>54922648
you should be able to remove this bits from the keycap and use the stabs that came with the board with any cherry compatible keycaps

>>54920592
gateron linears feel amazing

>>54922866
The regular cherry keycaps fit in this just fine, so I'm not exactly worried about that side of things, but I'm curious if I grab something like this (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/pcb-plate-mount-cherry-stabilizers) can I throw these into the plate and use the proper stabilizers

Where to buy the kbt race II nowadays?

are Kalilh switches bad?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201071

>>54913752
What's the keyboard model?

>>54924267
i think its a VB87m

>>54892333
>I'm looking to buy a TKL ISO DE keyboard with MX reds. I want to put Thick Cherry Caps on it,

>>54924452
remove the artisans or i will find you

>>54924531

kek
Why does /g/ hate artisans so much?

But yah, might remove the funnier looking ones and keep the one on the upper right on there. One might be enough.

>>54924452
what board?

>>54924577
because they look stupid

>>54924577
i mean they do look quite autistic and childish but obviously its your board and you do with it what you will

>>54924590

Leopold 750. Bought it from mechanicalkeyboards.com but it's out of stock now. If you're looking for something very similar there are white KUL-87's (blue switches) in stock here: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless .

>>54924628
>>54924618

Are they worse than RGB backlighting?

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>>54924577
>autists spend hundreds of dollars to obtain minimalist board focused on function with the right switches and keycaps to get the best feel when typing on it
>hey guise why do you hate something the costs lots of money, there for looks, looks bad, isn't even purely cosmetic but actually hampers actual function of the keyboard

????????

>>54924770
i think so yea

>>54920583
Try matias clicky and realize all cherry mx feel like shit.

>>54921953
>I saw the "new Model Fs" but they unfortunately don't go wide enough or in the layout I want.
Get an old 122 then.

>>54922778
Jack Humbert.

>>54915497
>>54915776

They're a "Cherry MX blue clone" by Switch Master. Never heard of the brand but all the reviews seem really good for the price. It should be arriving Monday.

>>54924994

Seconded, I'd go for an F122 or AT. They're fantastic boards with NKRO and great keyfeel for ~150USD

>>54925212
i do not like the mix of these two sets.
miami and otaku are cool individually though

>>54925236

Dunno, I thought the vaporwave aesthetic was cool

>>54925268
It's not really vapourwave.

>>54925268

but the profile mixing is not

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>>54895992

When the caps are easily removable the board will be easy to clean.

>>54925307

But the Japanese lettering a miami colour palette tho. I mean I can see where you're coming from but this might be the closest thing to vaporwave a keyboard can get.

>>54925212
i love it, what switches did you get?

I love my gateron blues but I just started twitch streaming and yeah, there's no way this can continue. I'm thinking of cherry clear mx, possibly with o-rings. Thoughts?

>>54925482

Not mine, just posting interesting builds I've saved.

>>54925573

Would be a lot quieter, but I'd skip the orings because they just end up feeling mushy. Only necessary if people are REALLY whiny on your stream.

>>54925430
>this might be the closest thing to vaporwave a keyboard can get
Nah, you just need a classic Apple Alps keyboard like the AEK, or an 80s-90s JIS board. >>54925212 mixes caps that unto themselves share in the aesthetic, but the mixture doesn't work on several levels. Plus, the board itself isn't very AESTHETIC.

>>54925573
Get a Topre board.