/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboards General

first to rubbertopredome

we should start including the list of memes in the OP.
http://pastebin.com/pz1rA4eF

What's a good small keyboard that isn't $100?

>>54113777
Can you chill with this shit already?
And stop putting "memes" in every sentence you underage autist

>>54113975
define "that isnt $100" more pl0x
like is it too much or?

>>54113777
>zealios
more of a reddit meme kty
>hhkb
small unix layout keyboard with topre switches
a nice keyboard if you dont care about costs
>flipped spacebar
more of a reddit meme
>buckling spring
kinda
>o rings
not a meme but whatever
>TKL
?
stopped reading this is a bigger meme than most of the real memes in there

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>tfw SD card slot on camera is fucked
>can't take pictures to shitpost

Anywhere to buy Topre keysets other than stupid widebasket's $150 bullshit?

>>54115020
Topre stopped making keysets
Just sonyou kniw

>>54115020
Just so you know

>>54115020
You can buy NT stems to use cherry keycaps, but for me it's too much of a hassle

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found this for cheap
worth buying
like 20 dollars

>>54115774
>>54115774
my questionmark didnt register
it should be:
worth buying?

>>54115783
Not mechanical, so nope.

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Who here /cute/?

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>>54116114
buckling springs can be cute, right?

>>54116313
in an Agent Mulder from X-files kinda way, yes.

>>54116187

Why /mkg/?

>>54116491
because they consider themselves gaymurs

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/sentraq-tk78-mechanical-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open

Hot memes, right off the press.

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>>54116780

LOL

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another diy keycap

>>54116992
WE

>>54115774
>>54115783
If they're the older ones and not the new ones, yes, apparently they're rather difficult to find and 20 bucks isn't really that much anyway.

>>54116780
who's going to buy that? I'd imagine that anyone who actually uses the numpad on a regular basis would also want seperate arrow keys for navigating their shit. without having to switch FN layers all the time.

>>54117005
WUZ

>>54117180
Not that I'm interested, but it gives you the flexibility to switch as you see fit. But yes, I'd rather stick with my 1800.

>>54116992
>tfw no model m caps

>>54116341
ayy lmao

>>54116992
Can you eat it?

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>Razer Blackwidow X
I... I actually want one...

>>54117942
I dont blame you for wanting to try.
as long if you get one REPLACE THOSE FUCKING CAPS OF SHIT

>>54117942
>floating keys
>nonstandard bottom row

so now that they're using cherry mx switches again (they are, right?) they instead compromised the casing in order to save money.

And the bottom row is still retarded.

>>54118016
they arent lol

>>54118034
I shouldn't be saying this since I'm partly jewish myself, but oy vey, they sure outdid themselves this time.

>>54117863
>tfw no model m caps

the white caps are from an old cherry g81-3000 and the dark caps are the stock caps from my mx board 3.0

>>54117916
won't taste great

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>>54116114
/cute/
is the only way to be

>>54113464
Gonna order a DIY kit from taobao to assemble, wish me luck

>>54118345
link me

>>54117200
KAPZ

>>54118368
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=44256491567

you'll need to be able to read chinkrunes because they only sell PCB/case/plate/combination of those in various layouts

>>54118322
>/r/mk starter set

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>>54119180
>i hate popular things

>>54119289
>I bought the memecaps too
>can I be part of the club

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>>54119345
>he's salty because he cant afford to be part of the cute meme club

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At least the thread is getting bumped.

>tfw Clueboard arriving Thursday and won some artisans today.

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>>54119372
>cheap keycapset
Cant hear you over my topre
Sorry

>>54119487
>thin PBT

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>>54119487
>says things are a meme
>TOPRE

xdddddddd

>>54119487
I never get why anyone would get the white realforce. I can understand it with the white HHKB, but the black realforce just looks so much better than the white one.

>>54119487
>memeforce

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>>54119588
You don't seem to be quite up to date with your memes, senpai.

Memeforce does not refer to the realforce keyboards (they aren't really much of a meme around here) but to the magicforce keyboard.

>>54119521
Pbt is pbt
>>54119529
Shut up coxnerd go sit outside with your thinkpad cup and miameme jerking to bst threads
>>54119584
I love the white one
Looks way better imo
Or white case with black keycaps
>>54119588
Till you tried it :^}

>>54119644
I'll pass on using overhyped rubber dome.

>>54119644
i don't jerk to bst threads. why would i do that?

>>54119521
>"thick PBT" is a buzzphrase

>>54119584
I prefer the black one too, but can't stand the black-on-black caps. I could get the Anniversary Edition, but that's too much when I can just get the white Realforce, harvest the caps for the black case, and then sell the white Realforce sans caps.

>>54119674
Idk I am not you

>>54119661
Its typing experience not the mechanism that counts

>>54119797
This. It's like people gawk because it doesn't have the overworked Cherry switches. Guess what? Cherry tactile and clicky switches blow. Their only good switches are the linears ones; IBM and Topre take the cake for the other two categories, although Alps is a very good substitute as well.

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>tfw you use an uncommon ISO and want to get into mechanical keyboards
life is pain

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>>54119738
>my hipster rubber dome only comes with paper thin keycaps
>therefore thick keycaps are meme

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>>54120017
>thickness of keycap matters

>>54119993
Get blanks.
Or just switch to ANSI, you can write your special snowflake language on ANSI just fine.

>>54120041
Thickness, profile, material and texture. Topre sucks on 3 of 4.

>>54120076
You have no idea

>>54120041
they do tho

>>54120090
It matters as much as not leveling out while typing

>>54120041
Right, so Signature plastics DCS feels just the same as GMK.
Topre cucks are delusional.

I keep seeing more shilling than usual for red switches on /g/. Is it one guy or is it actually true? I am going to want to get something new at some point, especially considering I am getting sick of the clicky blues I have now.

Originally I decided I was going to go with clears next, but now I don't know now because people keep talking about reds.

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>>54120076
I think you need to go learn the numbers again.

Topre keycaps suck in terms of thickness. Topre profile is really nice, the texture is nice too and PBT is a great material for keycaps unless you want doubleshots.

>>54120144
Its just pbt nerd

>>54116491
Because ppl in this kind of threads are showing off their posters, anime figures, multiple monitors and sofas.

>>54120044
>Get blanks.
There are still times when I need to look at my keyboard
>Or just switch to ANSI, you can write your special snowflake language on ANSI just fine.
ANSI won't have my snowflake characters

>>54120194
linear cherry switches are in general nothing but horrible. If you don't want knockoff switches, try to get some vintage blacks (the older the better), those are way better and on par with Gateron and nearly as good as Nixies.
You have to solder though. It's more than worth it though.
Reds and Clears both suck ass btw. Ergo-Clears is where it's at, but again, you'll have to solder to get these.

If you can't solder, you shouldn't get new Cherry boards to begin with. Get some vintage Cherries, Alps, or new Matias/Gateron boards. Stock Cherry is nothing but horrible, except maybe their clicky switches, if you can tolerate their sound.

Oh god /mkg/

>buy mx clears
>build my own keyboard
>titanium base plate, milled acrylic with leds, rosewood base and cover...
>get costume cable made
>between raw materials and accessories my keyboard comes out to be $660
>fast forward 5 months
>GF decides to move in
>cannot stand my keyboard
>actually left to go to the living room after starting this post
>can't move set up anywhere

Is it time to go back to the all mighty rubber dome? I tried rubber o rings but it's still loud as fuck. I can't bare to sell this keyboard as i put in a lot of time and money but
i can't risk my to annoy my girl friend which is something i'm sure most of you value. Is there any other way to make my keyboard tolerable? If i have to go back to rubber domes
i will, i honestly don't mind it and prefer rubber domes, i just don't want to get rid of something i invested so much into.

>>54120254
tell her to stop being fucking retarded.

or get o rings/dampeners and that kinda shit to try reduce noise a bit

>>54120275
i did, din't reduce it by much. Any other suggestions?

>>54120249
>Stock Cherry is nothing but horrible, except maybe their clicky switches

Then why are you the only person I have ever heard this from?

>>54120293
yea
slap a ho.

or buy the bitch noise canceling headphones or something idk

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>>54120242
You do realise you can just put ISO legends on a ANSI keyboard? Pic related
>>54120293
Use a large mousepad or a towel or something and place it beneath the keyboard. Otherwise learn to type with 10 fingers, since touchtyping is way more silent than jackhammering your index finger on your keys nonstop.

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>>54120194
it's probably just that one guy who got his first keyboard with reds and now think that reds are the best for anything because they're light and have no unnecessary tactile feedback or I don't know what.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with reds, I prefer my 35g linears, but reds are a perfectly valid option and quite nice to type on.

Cherry clears are also very nice switches, I don't really have a definitive preference between my HHKB with 45g Topre, my Ducky Shine 4 with cherry clears (apart from the fact that it's fuckhuge) and my memeforce with 35g gateron clears, they're all nice switches.

Pic related, I heard you memelords like backlighting so I backlit my bed.

>>54120310
Fuck it, i'm selling it. Maybe i'll get back 350 for it.


What are the most quiet rubber domes available?

>>54120254
cherry clears aren't loud at all, tell her to stop being a wuss.

>>54120321
>being this cucked

>>54120301
Because you are really new to this hobby. Look in any thread on DT/GH were people are talking about Alps/Gateron. Everybody will confirm my statement

>>54120254
I forgot to mention, post pictures of that keyboard. Sounds fucking beautiful.

>>54120314
>You do realise you can just put ISO legends on a ANSI keyboard? Pic related
Yes, I do. However, it's getting those legends that sucks, not getting an ISO enter/shift

>>54120340
See this is what I'm talking about, I just got directly conflicting opinions here >>54120315. What am I supposed to believe?

Is there like a respository of information I can access to learn more about switches other than cherries?

>>54120357
Get a single old Cherry G81 SAX (X stands for your iso) and you have the best thick PBT keycaps there are. They will also last you a lifetime. Now you just need some mods and you're good to go.

>>54120254
since when the fuck are clears loud...?

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if only the HHKB had GMK caps
then it would be perfect

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>tfw bf calls you a contrarian hipster for using a Model M

>>54120394
Deskthorities Wiki and also their forum. Here is a link:
https://deskthority.net/review-f45/great-gaming-keyboard-for-40-or-less-linearised-bigfoot-t13505.html
and the wiki:
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page

>>54120400
Sadly they're virtually impossible to find in my ISO

My only option is to get caps from wasd. I know they're shit but until I can touch type correctly I don't really have an option

>>54120293
Buy her noise canceling headphones

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>>54120275
>tell her to stop being fucking retarded.
>the guy who just spent $600 on a keyboard calling someone else 'retarded'
>you're 'retarded' too

>>54120144
With ABS it matters.

Not with PBT.

Idiot.

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>>54120426
Why not just get Cooler Master stems?

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>>54120524
well i ordered a type s for the memes

longer stems

How is it?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-electrostatic-capacitive-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable-cable-84-mini/32598836635.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.263.tCQptg&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_3_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_6&btsid=10919f40-685d-4b2b-aedd-dc3ad945c04b

>>54119993
>uncommon ISO
Could have gotten into imsto's latest group buy for dye-subbed PBT with ISO support. Languages were added after like two requests. But it's too late now.

>>54120451
Thanks. I guess if building your own keyboard is that good, then I might look into it. How much does it usually cost? Is it always as expensive as with the guy with gf problem above?

Something something waiting for keyboard in the mail something something if I have to wait another second for it I'm going to commit seppeku.

>>54120548
Then get a black HHKB for additional keks.

Also, nice order.

>>54120571
Some guy in feedback says it's better than original Topre in typing expierience.
Is it actually true ? Does anyone have it?

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>>54120584
but i already bought a black HHKB JP


actually i might sell that now

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>>54120394
Well, I wouldn't say that cherry switches outright suck, though gateron does a better job at linears. I think tactile cherries are a matter of taste, I have a keyboard with dampened cream alps here too and they're also damn nice, but I wouldn't say that that all tactile cherries suck (clears and greens are good, browns are undeniably shit and blues are quite ok but too light for my taste, whites are quite nice too, can't make a judgement about greys).

>>54120577
Building your own keyboard is typically more expensive than buying one, but this depends largely on what parts you choose. If all you want are some specific switches you can also just get a cheap keyboard and use the case to house your switches, see pic related.

>>54120620
That looks so bad. What company built this?

Are SA keycaps really that good? Why do people like them so much?

>>54120620
Did you finish it?

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>>54120632
Me and My Two Hands Corp.

No company in their right mind would handwire a keyboard anon.

>>54120651
Yup. I haven't bothered setting up any function layers yet, but everything's working now.

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>>54120453
How about signature plastics DSA/SA keycaps? They have a international kit, nearly always. Or is your ISO to ghetto for that as well?
>>54120508
Are you implying, that thickness only matters with ABS? Because that's not how it works. Only differences between ABS and PBT is, that PBT is near impossible to Doubleshot and ABS looses its texture with time (how long depends on quality, not thickness)
>>54120577
It really depends. Pic related was like
80$ for housing (which already acts as a switchplate) - GON skinny 60
60$ for PCB - GON 60% PCB, but you can get a 30$ SATAN GH60 PCB
10$ for stabilizers
~20$ for LEDs, but you don't need those, obviously
40$ for Switches
30$ for Lube, but cheaper stuff will work as well. I just wanted krytox since I'm planning to lube quite a lot of keyboards and 30$ aren't that much, when you can use it on 10+ boards.
So without any extras a custom kb would be about 220$+keycaps and soldering. That may seem a lot, but you also get way better quality than any stock keyboard has to offer, except for the whitefox maybe, but you're to late for that one.

>>54120665
oh nice, you got some of those skidata keycaps.

Would've gotten one of those myself hadn't it been for the fact that I switched to ANSI with my second keyboard.

>>54120660
Good job! I have some very old mech-keys form an old teletype that i want to be a side keyboard (like for function or programmable key) but i don't a have any technical notion...

>>54119484
When did you order the board?

>>54120700
I prefer ANSI as well, I really hope that the black on orange mods of the JTK Sophomore GB fits this keyboard.
The keyboard in the pic is ANSI again, the switches weren't (and aren't, I'm out of solder)
soldered when I took the picture. I just wanted to show off my soon to be keyboard.

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>>54120709
Thanks.

What kind of old keyboards (post pictures, I like to see pictures) ? Turning a keyboard into a fully programmable one with a teensy is not that difficult at all. If you can hold a soldering iron in place and you can follow some instructions then you're good to go.

Sure, it may not look pretty the first time around (or at least it didn't in my case), but it really is quite easy to do and a fun learning experience.

>>54120649
T H I C K

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Still waiting for my red PBT escape key to ship.

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>>54120773
Here to you. I know that somewhere in my house there are other keys like this

>>54120892
Nice.

What kind of switches are those? Also, are the switches all you have (not that it'd made that much of a difference, you'd just have to get a plate made).

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>>54120665
>Or is your ISO to ghetto for that as well?
Sadly it is. No key from international kits actually fit on it

>>54120935
Mec, fromage au chomage boire le vins qui vient des viennards du valais, mon palais du chocolate rage page cage image.

Fuck you and your language. Nothing personal, I was just made to learn it in school.

>>54120935
>>54120950
I just noticed that I said "fuck you".

My apologies, you make good wines. Fuck your language though.

>>54120921
I don't know, because i can't open them. All I can say is that they are mechanical...

i think they comes form this: http://www.soemtron.org/downloads/teletypes/model43-367teleprinterhowtooperatebasicksr78feb.pdf

>>54120144
Having thicker/more mass on keycaps means you feel the tactility of the switch less.

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>>54120950
bit mean

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>>54120959
y-you too

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>>54120935
I actually got a AEK I with orange alps in that ISO. Always wondered how anybody can use that weird as fuck layout.
Sucks that Hana doesn't work out for you. If you ever intend to make your own board, you could just buy an AEK II and some Matias switches. You need a custom plate to accomodate the borderline retarded bottomrow of the AEK though. There's a guy around here who did just that, maybe he can help you a little.
Also Alps are really nice, way better than most (all stock) cherry switches. So this is really a good option for you.
They have to be in good condition though, since Alps age rather bad. the spacebar is a good indicator. It's made of ABS, so if it's all shiny and yellow, the keyboard has seen some heavy use.

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Just got my first mech in mail.
Feels good man.

>>54120786

Thicker isn't always better. It's not about the thickness of the key, it's how you use it.

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>>54121055
>>54120935
>There's a guy around here who did just that, maybe he can help you a little
I'm just going to go right ahead and assume that you're talking about me.

I didn't quite go with that bottom row, but that's because I copied the layout of another guy (really cool dude), you can see my build log here.

https://geekhack DOT org/index.php?topic=78992.msg2022833#msg2022833

Though if you want a plate for a specific layout, I'd suggest you use this here:

http://builder.swillkb.com/

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just ordered this. did i do well?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281750388254
>Filco Majestouch Convertible 2 Black switch 104 Mechanical keyboard Wireless

>>54120717
Last Thursday, shipping info came in yesterday.

>>54121143
Hey man, nice that you're still around. Come to think of it I have a question as well.
What kind of stabs did you use, especially for the spacebar. Swillkb always draws the small stabs (the one the AEK comes with) for everything but the spacebar always gets a large cutout. What did you do about that? buy some plate mounted Costar stabs? If so, where?

>>54121096
>>54121143
you know, keeping the maximum resolution at 1k.px used to be a thing, now people just don't give a shit anymore
you gain NO important detail from sup-1k/1.5k resolutions in photographs
anything over that is wasting 1) bandwidth 2) disk space 3) memory 4) time
plus on a jpeg photo you don't want to see up close, downscaling makes the picture LOOK better. so fucking stop that shit holy fuck

>rofl filtered ur opinion isnt shit lmao

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>>54121055
Thanks for the input, but I was originally going for a 60% keyboard
>>54121143
>http://builder.swillkb.com/
This just generates a CAD model of what I should build, right?
I'm not sure if I'd have the time and knowledge to build the thing myself, but thanks anyway

>>54120990
Looks like this:

https://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f64/teletype-40k-104-dab-t6594.html

>>54121209
Did you get anything custom?

>>54121322
Yup, it's something like that. But not that, because i have got a key with "interrupt" written on it.

>>54121248
Matias uses cruciform-mount stabs for the spacebar.

>>54121348
I meant the switches, mostly.

>>54121368
Yes the switch are the same. I can confirm

>>54121355
Yeah, but those are interchangeable. I got everything I'd need on the AEK, except for the kind of plate mounted stab (the part that actually clicks into the plate, I got the Alps-mount part) I'd need for the spacebar.

Is there a way to get the swillkb thingy to draw a CAD with the smaller cutouts for the spacebar?

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>>54121292
>bandwith, disk space, memory
>current year
>caring obout few MBs

>>54121546
don't be wasteful

>>54121297
It generates a plate to fit your switches. If you send the cad file to a laser cutter they can cut if or you.

>>54121248
I used the stabs right from the AEK, I'm afraid I can't help you with your question, though Yoe (the guy from geekhack I mention in my buildlog) may be able to.

>>54114056
found the easily offended guy. what happened, did you buy a hhkb?

>>54121562
don't be poor

>>54121664
i apologise for not being the type of guy to buy ten oranges and throw eight out for no reason

>>54121562
>/mkg/
>don't be wasteful
pick one, tripretard

>>54121574
What the fuck. I just drew a new CAD and now it just used the correct stabs for the spacebar. Well, thank you very much anyway. I guess I'll build an orange Alps board in a few months.

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>>54121292

WTF is your tripfag ass on about? So you're trying to say a 1000x1000 and 4000x4000 image will have the same detail on my 4k screens?

>>54121837
are you dense
denser than your ppx ratio

>>54121851
son you're going full retard

>>54121851

Where did I even say a screen size? Certainly denser than your swiss-cheese logic, m8

>tfw no greens

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stealing this from an old thread

what keycap set is this
it looks like miami but only the colors

>>54121859
>>54121872
take a trip to /p/ some day and post you're keyboard photos there
i'd love to see their reactions lmao

>>54122090

They're Miami caps.

See
>>54118322
>>54116114

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>>54122090
can confirm they are Miamis. Hes my pimp.

>>54122187

that pepe themed balsa wood desk

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I swear I loose a screw every time I open this thing.

Though the pinging is gone now

>>54122187
Noice, is it finished?

>>54122117
>you're keyboard
>hurr durr i'm just pretending to be retarded

>>54122501
But I'm a keyboard

>>54122187
That layout is awful. Looks really meh.

>>54122187
Why would you use glossy acrylic on a item that will get touched a lot? Also that keyboard is too flat to comfortably type on. That's a no for me dawg.

>>54122574
>Also that keyboard is too flat to comfortably type on.
You mean the caps?

>>54122187
2/10 you tried.

I found a really old, dirty looking Cherry G80-1000HAE/15 in a thrift store today. The guy sold it for 3€, so I figured it would be worth getting it if it worked or not.

It's got a spanish layout, and feels incredible to type on. I haven't had a proper mechanical keyboard ever, so I might have been dazzled by anything, but still.

Was I lucky? Did I do good? Where can I get a usb-dongle transition for cheap?

Hi m8s, im thinking of buying a keyboard :D
>60$
>Im not sure about the switch type but I want something that is low profile
>ANSI
>Id like 100% but I guess It doesnt matter too much
>LEDs dont matter
>Something similar to this would be lovely
http://www.amazon.com/HP-KU-0841-Multimedia-Keyboard/dp/B004Q79H9I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1461099023&sr=8-2&keywords=hp+keyboard+ku-0841

>>54122187
Garbage. This is the type of stuff you see posted on Reddit.

>>54122642
Take a look at the mx board 3.0

>>54122090
>>54122187
what switches are on the poker pimp daddy

>>54122633
Great deal. You couldn't have made a better one imo.
Are the keycaps shiny?
Vintage Blacks are great.

>>54120410
>an't move set up anywhere
since he started his shit post

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>>54122278
The feel when keyboard layout.
>>54122395
yup its perfect but the dudes drivers he makes for his boards are a little off.
>>54122524
>>54122574
It works for me. Its not too bad since you can change the feet out to the angle you want. The plastic doesn't get touched much when im typing. Do agree with you but it looks damn good.
>>54122613
I didnt get it to impress you. Its a keyboard for me.

How can I get the keys on my Model M to be really clean? I have soaked them in warm soapy water and scrubbed them with a q-tip, but they are still dingy.

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>>54122678
Its like your mad at a keyboard. Man seriously shut the fuck up. The dude included something neat even if its a meme.
>>54122689
he runs reds or blues I believe. Mine uses browns.

>>54122697
No, not shiny from what I can see. Just dirty. The lettering and stuff is clear as day. I reckon I can clean it up and get it in a really good shape. But I want to see if it works with my computer first.

It's got a AT DIN5 plug though (I just learned what it's called after googling). I am seeing that people have trouble getting them into USB-ports, so what can I do? Can I only salvage it for parts?

>>54122785
The more I look at it the stupider it gets. Thanks for the laugh lol.

>>54122892
No problem man its a fun board in the land of HKKB

>>54122892
you sound insecure t b h

>>54122876
I'm pretty sure there should be converters. If not for USB there should at least be some for PS2 which can be converted to USB.
If the caps aren't shiny and in good condition you should clean it up, no matter if it works or not. You can at least use the keycaps, if you know how to solder, get those switches out as well and build a new keyboard with them, also reuse the caps and stabs obviously.

>>54122785
I gotta agree here, that doesn't seem functional or aesthetic. Interesting though.

>>54122986
Allright, this sounds good. Thanks for the response! I'm really happy with my purchase now. I think I will post a picture in a few minutes.

>>54118322
are those the "real" miamis from ctrlalt.io/geekhack or the taihao ones?

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>>54123023
No problem and a pic would be very nice.

>>54123063
tai hao ones.
i like these better anyway
better colors for sure

>>54122990
Its actually works pretty good. If you are a bigger guy I dont recommend it Its functions as a portable matrix keyboard. Its symmetrical to make it easier to learn and use.

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My memeforce came in the mail today, so I took a picture of it with actually nothing in focus, which is sort of impressive. Board is cool, though

Can you program a poker 3 so that when you press for example pn + 9 it writes "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9"?

I have a Filco but I really want clears and found out about the features of the Poker 3 today and am trying to convince myself not to buy it out of impulse...

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>>54123067
Sure man! I'll post a few

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>>54123234
Every key feels great

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>>54123265
That one was to show that it's spanish. Here you see that they are blacks, as you said.

>>54123285
Dunno what ISO that is, but it may actually be worth something to a collector, since it is probably rather rare.
On the other hand you'll probably not find as good keycaps in your iso at all, so you should keep them imo.

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>>54123285
Really dirty, I'm actually a bit worried that it will be difficult to get it clean. Gotta wonder what they did with it. I mean, is that red paint on the function keys?

>>54123142
That delete key looks quite in focus to me.

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>>54123337
The connector.

>>54123234
>>54123265
>>54123285
show us the bottom of the keycap please

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>>54123376
This what you mean? They're actually really clean and shiny inside.

>>54123434
NOICE NOICE NOICE

Hold onto that thing lad, it's a really fucking good find.

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>>54123434
Sorry about that rotation, didnt think about it.
Anyway, here you also see the info on the back.

>>54123461
Awesome! Hahahah I'm really glad to hear, I really only walked in to get a nightstand, and finding this thing with my limited knowledge already made my day. Now Im just getting happier

>>54123504
Just give those keycaps a nice scrub with some dish soap and warm water and a toothbrush and you're golden.

Vintage blacks are a really good find, not to mention doubleshot caps from cherry. You did very fucking good mate.

>>54123142
Why in the world does board have a calculator shortcut key but no fn numpad? Or am I missing something?

>>54123538
Thanks man, that I will do. Allthough I'm not spanish myself, I think Ill stick to it even so. I wouldn't have known just how good a find it was on my own

>>54123577
>Why in the world does board have a calculator shortcut key but no fn numpad?
The former is far easier to implement, for one.

>>54123769
>The former is far easier to implement, for one.
I don't know, that logic doesn't make much sense considering there's like 50 other functions, and like 10 different settings for changing the LED backlighting.
I'm gonna have to chalk this one up to design oversight.

>>54123465
>made in WEST Germany
dayum

>>54123465
>>54123832
>West Germany
>12/88
This keyboard is older than me.

>>54123813
I guess I don't see how it's obvious that a board should have a numpad layer if it has a calculator shortcut.

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hey guys just curious, came here for this question

is the Razer Blackwidow X Chroma a decent mech keyboard?

my brother sent me this http://gizmodo.com/this-psychedelic-mechanical-keyboard-made-me-a-believer-1771675334?

seems kinda cool but I had a feeling you guys would call it ricy overpriced shit. for like $160.

>>54124138
Working in a calculator is a mess without a numpad. It's much harder to write with one hand and without looking if youre using the numberline and the operaters scattered around the right hand side.

>>54124199
Yeah I love it. Much better than my ducky.

>>54124212
That doesn't mean that people without numpads have no use for calculators.

>>54124015
It's nearly 10 years older than me

>>54124199
It's good. At least better than corsair keyboards. Just my educated opinion.

>>54124138
>>54124233
because a calculator is a tool used exclusively for data entry
one who needed to use a calculator would want a numpad for easy data entry
therefore, anyone who felt the necessity to have a dedicated calculator shortcut for data entry would likely also want a numpad for quicker data entry
what kind of person uses the calculator SO much, that they need a dedicated calculator button, yet doesn't want a numpad?

>>54124199
Yes it is overpriced but overpriced does in no way mean bad.

>>54124256
>because a calculator is a tool used exclusively for data entry
Is this a joke I'm not getting?

>>54124199
No.

>floating key design (great way to save money on the case)
>chink knockoff switches
>nonstandard bottom row (good luck finding replacements for those shit thin abs keycaps)
>razer bloatware

It is indeed ricy overpriced shit, you can get a Ducky Shine 5 for that money, which doesn't require bloatware and comes with a standard layout on which you can fit just about any keycap set you want. And it also has your fancy-ass rgb lighting.

I'm not sure what you were even expecting from razer, but yes, it's a piece of shit.

>>54124326
data entry is
literally
the one thing a calculator does
you type numbers, and only numbers, into it and that's it, there's no alternative function

do you know what a calculator is?

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>>54124355
Did they actually made floating keys just to save money?
Holy shit

>>54116313
>>54120438
>>54122842

I have a Model M here, though I'm not using it. I do love the way it feels, but I shared an office with a guy who used one and now the sound of it makes me want to AR-15.

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>>54124483
I don't know if that's why they did it, but it seems quite likely.

You see all those dirt cheap chinese keyboards? They all have floating keys. It's a great way to save money.

>>54124515
lel

I can't believe the value of a calculator button vs fn-numpad keys is being discussed.

Let's look at it simply. Which would you use more?

Calculator button: Let's say you need the calculator five times a week. Five

Now the numpad: Literally every single one of those five times you need the calculator, this would be useful as well. So at least five. And then there are all the other times you need to write in a string of numbers, like credit card number, dates, etc. The number of times it would be useful with this function in a keyboard is NECESSARILY greater than that of a "open calculator" button.

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>>54124199
The person who wrote this article says that he dislikes mechanical keyboards, you can't trust his retarded opinion.

Also if only they knew about keyboards that are not 100%

>>54113777
No.

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>>54124539
>You see all those dirt cheap chinese keyboards? They all have floating keys. It's a great way to save money.
You're an idiot

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>>54124817
conversely

>>54124817
>>54124839
Funny that you bring up the pok3r, it's actually a great example of just that.

>aluminum case
dye cast and spray painted, a properly anodized casing, or at least a casing that encloses the top area of the keyboard would obviously cost more to produce. Of course, it's a 60% so that doesn't really make much sense. But it's still a great way to save money on the casing, and the razer keyboard in question is a 100%.

>PBT keycaps
They're thick, but laser printed instead of dyesubbed (which again, would be far more expensive).

Remember the varmillo that was on massdrop some time ago? It came with dyesubbed PBT caps, backlighting and an anodized aluminium casing iirc, and it was something around 160 bucks at the lowest drop point. And that in group buy, so you can imagine how expensive a keyboard like the pok3r would be that's done proper.

Not to say that you can't have good keyboard with proper casing on the cheap, but omitting the top part of the case and just going for a floating key design is a great way to save money, which is something that razer is known for with switching from cherry to cheaper kalih switches while keeping the price the same.

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>>54124817
I'm honestly a fan of the floating keys. It may save money but shit feels luxurious. With a wooden case it would probably cost $200

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>>54125122
some people tried to remove the comic sans logo with solvent and the 'anodizing' rubbed off instead of the logo

i guess ill find out tomorrow, mine actually shipped ahead of their estimate

>>54124474
Data entry is a kind of employment, it isn't "using a calculator".

>>54125215
>shit feels luxurious
How so?

>>54125431
After he bent the case, so it is actually flat on the desk, used some marker to cover up the rust on the switchplate and scratches in the painted case, he just enjoys the luxurious feel of his keyboard. Because shit man, floating keys WOAH.

>>54125537
I think you're a bit too intense for keyboards.

So today i come home and my ducky shine 3 was missing from my desk with a note from my mom saying -talk to you later-
I rushed to search for it around the house, i fucking raged and made a mess in my mom's room trying to find it. I was livid!
When she came home i immediately berated her with questions and she told me straight up that she threw away my keyboard
and that she was no longer tolerating me typing and gaming after 9pm. She said that my keyboard kept her up at night and
she barely got any sleep. I explained to her that they were brown switches and that they were not that fucking loud. She was
clearly exaggerating but apparently recorded audio on her iphone from her room at night. I could hear it but she's probably recorded
it next to my bedroom door. It's her fault for having a policy of no closed doors. She grounded me for a week for trashing her
room and that was that. I went out back to the trash bin to see if i could find my precious keyboard and all i could find was a
cable clearly cut with pliers and a couple of keycaps. fuck mechanical keyboards, thanks to that keyboard i can't game at night
anymore.

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>>54125618
>browns

so nothing of value was lost?

>>54125618
This is some weak-ass bait, everyone knows the Shine 3 has a removable cable. Cutting the USB cord wouldn't mean shit.

>>54125672
yeah she was too stupid to unplug it, she just cut it so in case i would find it i could never use it.

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>>54125618
wow anon, should have bought a topre type s

>>54125618
>You must be at least 18

I spilled beer on my mechanical keyboard. What's the safest way to clean it and make it not loose its click? Matias clicky switches btw.

>>54126373
brake cleaner

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Just swapped the keys on this. I'm pretty satisfied with the results.

>>54120254
Get a new girlfriend.

>>54120315
who the fuck taught you how to trim your toenails?

Jesus.

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Just got this bad boy in the mail, it's my first keyboard coming from a wireless logitech.

How badly did I fuck up /g/? I've never used Cherry MX before (apart from a key switch tester) and this feels like rubber domes. It's also really big and the slanting of the keys is annoying to get the hang of.

>>54127039
Topre switches are rubber domes. Overpriced rubber domes. I don't consider them mechanical and I think they are extremely overrated.

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>>54127039
>>54127105

How do people hype this shit up so much? Is it all a gigantic meme?

I WANT MY PLANCK NOW REEEEEEĒ

>>54127114
most of the generals on /g/ are run by marketing professionals and ad execs. It's all hype.

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>>54127039
Why did you choose the realforce 87u over the HHKB?

>>54127159
inb4 "I need function row for gaming"

>>54127039
That keyboard is dope dude. Ignore these jealous haters.

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>>54127171

shit nigga, you got me, I also want to bind the function keys to media controls

>>54127195

I'm going to use it for a week or two, I can't exactly return it or anything, I might buy a wrist rest in order to gain some height on the thing. I wonder if I should have got the 55g over the 45g, but it's far too late to consider something like that; I don't really have any regrets, which is good.

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>>54127219
>gaming with topre

>>54125431
it's not the floating key aspect that feels luxurious but they're doubleshot ABS caps, better than DSA by a mile.

The keyboard has weight, the firmware is solid, and the build quality is top notch. Plus, I like the non-bulky look of the floating keys.

>>54127399
You're right, Topre is obviously not for gaming. There's no red LEDs to make you go faster.

>>54127470
>they're doubleshot ABS caps, better than DSA by a mile
Wait until they wear down

>>54126716
Looks nice anon, real classy.

>>54127470
>they're doubleshot ABS caps, better than DSA by a mile
On my numpad to my left are doubleshot ABS DSA dolch.

u stupid little fuckholes still lusting after rubber dome shit huh u litle fucktrash

fuck hhkb

fuck topre

fuck $300 rubber domes u fuckhole idiots

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>>54127529

>>54127529
If only my switches were as unnecessarily noisy as Cherryshit, I'd be able to say that I couldn't hear you over the sound of my oneness with cup rubber.

>>54127509
Ok those probably feel nice. I ordered some PBT DSA caps and they feel like shit. I got this Poke3r from Massdrop and they fucked up the orders somehow and decided to give everyone nicer keycaps.

These are laser etched I believe so the symbols won't wear down, I'm sure they'll get more shiny.

>>54127566
>I ordered some PBT DSA caps and they feel like shit
In what way?

>>54127554

You're a fucking idiot. U fedora wearing fucktard your hhkb is shit, plastic case, rubber dome, 300 dollars.

Fuck

Out

>>54127507
Thanks! I do wish the Leopold's Windows key didn't have the new Windows logo though. I like the HHKB's design for that key more.

>>54127556

>my oneness with cup rubber

Literally le le le ledd it tier retardation. Wow, do you actually say this?

>>54127585
Texture, thickness, profile. Ask your mom, she knows.

>>54127725
I want to add that they look nice but that's about it.

>>54127725
All of those have nothing to do with the type of plastic or legend process.

I think you've said enough for me to conclude you have not the slightest clue what you're talking about.

replaced my 5 year old filco with a novatouch + leopold pbt. Don't really need the filco anymore.

How much do you guys think it could sell for? It's still in perfect condition, however has shitty wasd blank keycaps on it. It's the filco full sized w/ brown keycaps.

Might also just get new keycaps for it, maybe vortex pbt. But I dont see the reason to have 2 keyboards.

>>54127684
I feel like I can map out this conversation.

Next, I tell you that I was quoting the Realforce tag line. Then you say that only memers would know that and that I should go back to whatever. Then I say you have to be wilfully ignorant to not take notice as it has been used here. Then you say something about not paying attention to shills. Then I wonder what I'm doing with my life to even jokingly respond to a post like >>54127529 if I'm not even really into the bantz.

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>>54127684
lel

>>54125338
It's a shame this is so ugly. The 68 key layout is perfect, but I had to go with magicforce because it looks so much better, save those terrible stock caps

can /mkg/ start banning cherryfags? like, not ban obviously, but can we all agree that cherry mx is the worst and start shunning all cherry users?

>>54127833

wtf how does the magicforce look better? it looks like a childrens product

>>54127864

Just make a new thread you bumblefuck, "rubber dome general"

>>54127750
DSA is the profile, the plastic determines texture and thickness to a certain extent. All I know is that the PBT DSA caps I bought suck ass compared to ABS.

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>>54127833
could have bought an fc660m

>>54127864
>he doesn't own both and change allegiances based on the current bantz

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>>54127880
>the plastic determines texture and thickness to a certain extent

>>54127880

The molds determine thickness and texture. You can have smooth, skinny PBT if someone wanted to make them.

>>54127866
Floating keys, thin bezels, black or white with subtle chrome accent, not orange lighting, like really? orange and grey?

>>54127895
So you're telling me if I use two different plastics in the same mold, they will feel exactly the same? Get the fuck outta here.

>>54127903
Floating keys lends a very busy look. Chrome is, like, the antithesis of subtle.

>>54127903

Rounded corners, huge beveled edges, engraved brand name, randomly colored LED backlights for no reason

>>54127949
>huge
Stopped reading right there. The magicforce has a much slimmer profile than the varmillo.
And what the the fuck is "random" about white?

>>54127940
The texturing and thickness of DSA caps is the same between ABS and PBT. The plastics have different qualities that make them feel very slightly different, but it is the mould that determines how smooth or rough the cap is. Certainly the plastic has nothing at all to do with the thickness.

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Any other TKL keyboards that keep it cute and square but still have navigation arrows?

>>54128006
That's not a TKL. TKL does not mean "without a numpad".

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>>54127993

Do you know what a bevel is?

>>54128006
oh and not have gay lights

Or a regular tkl that has dedicated media buttons?

>>54128013
or without a numpad then you autist

>>54128021
You're asking for a 75%.

>>54128013
>TKL does not mean "without a numpad".
Technically, TKL does, in fact, literally mean "without a numpad"

>>54128014
That's far from huge, friendo.

>>54128070
>Technically
>literally
These are different things. Yes, the literal definition is "without tenkey", but that's not the established use of the term.

>>54128084

It is when no other floating key board has a bevel that big.

>>54128106
ok
if you're happy with your overpriced, ugly keyboard, then i guess that's fine.

Hey, what do you recommend?
Going off the buyer's guide:
1 - $100-180
2 - USA
3 - soft key with clicky noises
4 - ANSI
5 - preferably 100%
6 - bright ones, any color as long as I can see the keyboard in the dark
7 - I have a razer keyboard right now, but its too fucking large so it's pain when I have to pack it for travel.

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>>54128444
>wants a 100%
>complains its too large

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>>54127832
My God that's a terrible photo. Definitely not something a photo worthy of the good feeling of oneness with cup rubber.

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>>54128504
it just barely fits into my bag. I wish I had been here before buying it.

>>54128576
>he travels with a full size
>he travels with a mechanical keyboard
>he uses Razer™ gear
>he wants a full size after complaining a full size being too large

autismo pls, you must be 18 or older to post

>>54127940
Yes, actually.
You can have textured or smooth ABS, and textured or smooth PBT. IBM keycaps are textured on the top, smooth on the sides, all on the same piece of PBT.

>>54123224
You should just do it. It is damn nice, the only reason not to get it is if you dont have much money.

what is the best keyboard that one can buy as a womanizer?

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>>54128970

>>54129108
There is no need to be rude to me like this.

>>54128970
I'm pretty sure that one's opinion on women has no impact whatsoever on what keyboard you use
or, I've been using my keyboard wrong for years.

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Fuck you guys.
I just tried a random mechanical keyboard with either a black or brown Cherry switch, and I can't believe how great it felt to type compared to regular membrane.

>>54130120
>cherry black and brown
wait until you try an actually good switch. then you'll be even more impressed

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So WASD has some new doubleshot pbt sets. Nice to see they're trying
Wonder if they'll be any good or if they'll still have that trash coating on them.
(custom pbt when)

So should I just pull the trigger on that $35 monoprice board to start with and get a better one later if I feel the need (maybe a blue)?

Any recommendations for a compact keyboard that still has

>cherry blue
>dedicate delete and navigation arrow buttons
>media keys
>pref non backlit but only back lit if white LEDs

>>54130441

Good idea if you like linears

>>54130294

Do they only use that shitty font?