>Nvidia caught hindering performance on their own cards i

AMDPOORFAGS AND THEIR SHIT COMPANY CAN'T INTO TESSELLATION

>>52675308

AMD had tesslation first and they don't practice bad business to get ahead, nor do they tank performance on their rivals card.

GameWorks is nothing but a way of making people upgrade.

https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/amdrichard-huddy-need-to-lie-about-tessellation/

https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/amd-tries-to-do-more-damage-control-for-tessellation/

https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/catalyst-hotfix-11-1a-amd-admits-defeat-in-tessellation/

https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/12/24/amd-and-tessellation-a-difficult-relationship/

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>>52675308

>>52675544
>myautisticblod.wordpress.com
didn't even open tb h

>>52675544
>2010
>2011
>implying this is relevant now
Good job.

ITS HABBENING AGAIN

I just want to know for the WII U, PS3 emulator

AMD or Nvidia

Im thinking of either
Palit GTX 970 Jetstream 4gb
or
Sapphire R9 390 Nitro Tri-X OC 8gb

which will work better

>>52677314
>Bernie Sanders is an Intel shill
everything makes sense now

>>52675227
the shit that they were gimping AMD with wasn't compatible with what they are using to gimp kepler this time and they want people to be ready to upgrade because of shitty performance when pascal launches.

>>52677549
>Jetsream 4gb
>4gb
>4

The 390 is the handsdown winner.

>>52677549
AMD works fine but nvidia works better. Also functional ps3 emulator doesn't exist yet.

>>52677610
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Works fine and the other works better.

Explain your conclusion.

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>>52675227
>that accent

>>52677663
AMD has no drivers.
OpenGL support is better on Nvidia.

>>52675227
>High amounts of tessellation proven to be a scam, or even any amount (old news from 2011)
Nvidia drivers reduce tessellation levels upon detecting the game. So when a game says 64x the driver actually does like 8x shitting on the game. AMD drivers don't do this and they try to comply with the requested setting. I have tessellation forced to 8x in my driver and it works very well.

>>52677663
For Wii emalation, AMD works fine and nvidia works better. What more is there to it? Are you that retarded?

>>52677702
You're a lying piece of shit

So for a nvidya card to retain it's capabilities one should never update it's drivers nor use any "experience" kikery.
Then again, they urge devs to release unfinished turds that gimp your caard anyway.
Polaris can't come soon enough.

>>52677721
Explain.

>>52677702
>AMD drivers dont do this
>AMD drivers
AMD what?

>>52677693
I didn't know we went back in time to 2010 where this problem actually was occuring.

Try again.

>>52677784
Drivers. It's something AMD has that nvidia wishes they could make. Even the cars nvidia want to make don't have drivers.

>>52675227
>oi ye see its a wot an i ca'ant belief it bcos et wouldn't dun that befo

Fucking what is he saying.

>>52677812
You think Scotts are bad? and he's sober!
Hell, no, that video is perfectly audible.

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>>52675347
>yfw 3dfx had tesselation first

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>>52677693
>AMD has no drivers
Nvidia drivers are dogshit, i prefer my AMD card with no drivers that outperforms the competition at that price point.

>>52677852
Any benchmark for 1080p same game?

so nice to know nvidia is already gimping their cards to get ready for pascal

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>>52677693
You're not even trying

>>52675227
This even though I own Nvidia I can't believe how much of a shit company Nvidia is.

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>>52677907
At 1080p it does start to lean in nvidias favor, but also compare older cards to see how well AMD and NVIDIA cards age.

When you buy AMD you're pretty much guaranteed better support because they maintain an architecture for so long.

Nvidia needs seperate drivers for each architecture.

>>52677852
Why is the 980 below 290x?

>>52678021
more like nvidia's planed obsolescence makes it so they have to change out things and then put them back in all the time going from tesla to fermi to kepler to maxwel to pascal

>>52678036
Because its 4k.
AMD scales better than nvidia at higher resolutions because 256bit vs 512bit.

Usually, nvidia is slightly better at 1080p, they match at 1440p, amd is slightly better at 4k.

>>52678061
I mean the numbers are higher in this graphic

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>>52678021
>7970 outperforming a 780
Wake me up.

>>52678095
probably because it was a 0.x fps lower in average fps

>>52678109
This has been the case for quite some time. Kepler cards are absolute dog shit now, since Nvidia abandoned driver optimizations for them.

>>52677445
Implying AMD has changed their architecture since them

>>52678161
It's one of the reason nvidia sells so many cards. AMD users don't need to upgrade but nvidia users have already upgraded like 2x.

>>52675227
You are an absolute cuck normalfag if you are still buying Nvidia in 2016.

>>52678211
Companies are not people, they don't care about you, they only care about profits.
A real cuck buys AMD because they are the "good guys"

What is best for the consumer is what works best in this case Nvidia.

>>52678205
I thought the market of AMD are bitcoin miners or poorfags of course it will take a while for AMD buyers to buy a replacement

I stopped paying attention when he claimed a 780Ti should be at least as fast as a 980 for brand new games

>>52678184
Those cards used the TeraScale architecture, not GCN.

>implying you know what the fuck you're talking about
>>>/v/

>>52678235
lol just because companies aren't people don't mean you'd want one's dick up your ass. Maybe you should take nvidia's dick out of your ass for once and see how retarded you are.

>>52678244
The 780 Ti is as fast or faster in games that were released before Maxwell arrived. I guess it's just coincidence that everything released since then runs like shit on Kepler. Must have been devs turning on some magic switch or something. :^)

>>52678307
Maybe you are the one willing sucking someone's else cocks jsut because they are the "underdog" and "good guys"

>>52678324
http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/maxwell-tuning-guide/#axzz3DS4V9nyQ

Educate yourself :^)

>>52678330
It's not about the good guys you dumb ass, it's about not buying from people who are fucking everyone over. You'd have to like it in the ass to want to be fucked so much.

>>52678330
You should be grateful to them for willing cocksucker so Nvidia will be forced to improve their products unlike Intel CPU who has no competition and has stagnated

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>>52678235
>What is best for the consumer is what works best in this case Nvidia

Uh, no. You've got it completely backwards. Just watch the video. The guy succinctly sums up how shitty it is to be an Nvidia consumer in 2016.

How is it good for consumers to be fucked by planned obsolescence every 2 years? lol do you even read what you write? Fucking Nvidiacucks, man.

>>52678350
>CUDA
>games

Another retard who needs to fuck off back to /v/.

>>52677693
>Implying OpenGL even matters

>>52678404
Seriously. Also
>linking to some Nvidia technical marketing propaganda like it's a source that can be cited

>>52677714
GPU isn't even a factor hardly with emulation. My GTX 670 doesn't even pull 50% utilization with 1080p, 4xAA and 16xAF in Dolphin.

>>52677852
It used to be the other way around, oddly. In the late 90's and early 00's AMD/ATI's drivers were absolutely atrocious. I had an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro around that time, and it wasn't even usable because the drivers were so bad literally every game crashed. I got an NVIDIA card to replace that card and have exclusively used them since then and I have noticed a decline in the quality of NVIDIA's drivers over the years.

>>52678366
>>52678369
>>52678384
>>52678404

All this GameWorks talks boils down to AMD babies crying about not getting NVIDIA ONLY FEATURES DESIGNED FOR NVIDIA ARCHITECTURE despite the fact that they willingly opted in buying an AMD card instead, most of them buy AMD because it is cheaper then cry because they don't get premium features from NVIDIA in their AMD cards.


If you go to reddit( where OP video is from by the way) you will notice how the people always whining about GameWorks is the AMD subreddit while the Nvidia subreddit barely has any replies in fact AMD subreddit talks more about Nvidia than Nvidia talks about AMD and Nvidia owns 80% of the market, just let that sink.

Also whining about Nvidia GameWorks is like whining a premium car company can make a super A car while the rest can't do the same so Nvidia should't make that car until the other companies can do the same too.

Also, everything he cited in that video has been proved by actual sources.

Seriously this kind of videos pop up every week or so and are quickly disproved by actual facts and benchmarks, it has even become a running joke in the pcgaming subreddit.

>>52678435
That doesn't conflict or construct with what I said.

>>52678485
you are retarded

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>>52678235
I dont buy AMD because theyre the good guys. I buy from them because theyre more ethical, sell good GPUs that cost slightly less than nvidia, and I havent had any driver issues from them.

The one time I tried an nvidia.
>install gtx 670
>it works great
>maxwell comes out
>drivers crashing in game occasionaly
>shadowplay causes display drivers to crash
>performing a lot worse than it should be in newer games compared to the AMD equivalent.

Im not saying nvidia are gimping the older cards with new drivers because old games still perform roughly the same. They're just not optimising it as much as the latest gen to make maxwell look better than it really is.

>>52678488
Because you sound like a fucking idiot with what you said because GPU like I said has literally no impact on emulation gaming unless you are a complete retard running a GeForce 2 MX.

>>52678404
Are you retarded anon, that document points out the improvements over Kepler you could easily see from this document alone why Maxwell trumps over Kepler..

>>52677403
this

>>52678510
You know what works fine means right? Also you realize there are small bugs in all emulation right? Or are you that retarded?

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amd really needs to get their shit together so this bullshit stops

>>52678036
Congrats, you discovered it's a shoop. I wouldn't be surprised if most screens like these are fake, given how /g/ gets with its flagrant fanboyism.

>>52678435
>GPU isn't even a factor hardly with emulation.

It is though if you have an AMD card and the emulator uses OpenGL :^)

>>52675227
I will always buy Nvidia™ because I only play games The Way It's Meant to be Played™. Nvidia also pioneers innovative new technologies like PhysX™, GameWorks™ and the highest quality driver to ever grace Windows. When I boot up with a brand new Nvidia™ GeForce™, I can experience the game just like it's meant to be played. Nvidia™ also delivers a far smoother experience. Nvidia GeForce™ is also very power efficient. A graphic card is the most power hungry device in your house. Refrigerators, air conditioners, water heaters, dish washers, lights, etc all use significantly less power than a graphic card. Which is why Nvidia™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill. At this point in time, there's really no reason to consider an AMD graphic card at all. I tried one one time, it caused so much heat that it exploded. It also consumed so much power that it gave on an EMP and destroyed the rest of my computer. Nvidia™ also pioneered how useless GPGPU is with CUDA™. Years ago, everyone thought GPGPU, CUDA™, and OpenCL were the future. Now, Nvidia™ has removed those useless features from their GPUs and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Nvidia™ ensuring that useless features like GPGPU are "optimized" for gamers. It's quite clear that OP's an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than The Way It's Meant to be Played™. Nvidia™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Nvidia GameWorks. He is probably too poor to afford the Nvidia GeForce Experience and can not afford to play any games The Way It's Mean To be Played™. Don't be a poor gamer with bad drivers and a huge power bill. Play games with the GeForce™ Experience™: The Way It's Meant To Be Played™

the video helped me sway more towards AMD for my next purchase. if all i have to do is lower tesselation to get equal performance on AMD cards then that's what i'm going to do, especially with the feature being built into crimson with the release of polaris cards.
done supporting nvidia desu.

>>52678578
Next AMD architecture Polaris is finally getting a dedicated module for geometry, so now AMD won't be able to cry about Nvidia being unfair with tessellation :^)

>>52678606
Sorry meant to quote.
>>52678579

>>52678606
But what's the schedule of release?

>>52678799
Soon

I keep seeing Pajeet in AMD review / announcements

Is AMD Poo in Loo?

Why amd users are always complaining?

>>52678485
You are a fucking idiot. The entire point of the video is that GameWorks breaks both AMD and "aging" Nvidia cards for little to no benefit. You're either blind or extremely naive if you think GameWorks is actually a "premium feature."

>>52678819
Rajesh can't afford anything else

>>52678852
GameWorks works fine in Kepler cards though the only case was The Witcher 3 which was patched by a Driver update not even by the game developer and it worked fine in older drivers.

>>52678852
>whining about Nvidia GameWorks is like whining a premium car company can make a super A car while the rest can't do the same so Nvidia should't make that car until the other companies can do the same too.


Thanks for proving me right.

>>52678485
your entire post is retarded and badly compiled.

>>52677731
You said something that wasn't true.

>>52678606
>>52678621
you're right, but replace won't be able to with won't have to :^)

These AMD is shit because of GameWorks babies are more deluded than holocaust deniers.

>>52678996
Stfu jewish piece of shit

>>52678996
How have you not killed yourself yet?

>>52678912
Did you even watch the video, or have any idea what you're talking about?

It's not just Witcher 3, you dofus.

>>52678912

You fucking autist, Nvidia released Maxwell drivers then every Kepler user magically lost 15 frames if their GPU was the bottleneck.

The general consensus is Nvidia intentionally tanked or at least abandoned Kepler in its entirety. Some say perhaps Kepler couldn't be improved, but that's bullshit.

>>52679082

Nazi fag detected

>>52679224
Nvidiafags will cling on to the "architecture was already as optimized as it could get!" but then can't justify the 780 losing to the 960, or all Kepler cards having really close performance across the board. I mean, come the fuck on, a 5 FPS difference from the 780 to the 760? The price difference was more than double at launch. What's more, the 290, which lost to the 780 back then, is still going strong and can even compete with the fucking 970.

I really don't know how people can be this delusional.

>>52679246
Nigger, do you have any idea where you are right now? Fuck off back to rebbit already

>>52677314
underrated post

>>52679169
OH what other game it is then?

>>52679224
You are so fucking wrong it look like you weren't even involved in this whole deal, it was just one driver that was bad, new drivers AND OLD DRIVERS worked perfectly fine in the same games.

>>52677683
haven't you ever seen Elysium?

>>52679336
Witcher 3, Project CARS, Fallout 4. 2 of those are relevant GameWorks games of 2015. Batman Arkham City was even fucking pulled out of the market because it was an unplayable dogshit unless you were running a 980Ti.

And this shit isn't new either, they've been testing the waters since Crysis 2, and the reality is that they can pull it off as long as they have useful idiots like you gobbling it up and defending it.

How fucking stupid are you, really?

>>52678021
A 7970, a GPU that can be had for $120 or less, beats a 780, a GPU that goes for $180+. Good job nvidia.

>>52679246
Id rather be a Nazi then a redditor.

>>52679387
GTX 970 here, Fallout 4 GodRays barely make any difference in framerate, it is Shadow what fuck up framerate below 40FPS even in Medium setting with a 4690K.


Do you even own Fallout 4 or a Nvidia card?

Project CARS runs fine on Kepler cards too, guess why it runs like crap on AMD? Because AMD drivers lacks multi threading unlike Nvidia drivers relased when AMD was working on Mantle.

Crysis 2 has been debunked countless of times how the fuck are people like you still hanging on that one?


Seems to me you've been feed lies.

>>52679453
So you didn't watch the video at all, and you're just pulling shit out of your ass instead of new relevant info.

Gotcha. Won't bother any further.

>>52679470
The video is wrong, how many time do you want to be feed the same lies?

A video with the exact same lies was made like 1 or 2 months ago and everything was debunked by facts, and that was even done by reddit AMD subreddit which fucking hates Nvidia but hates more lies and bullshit.

>>52679493
>its a lie if I keep saying it is
its like all those creationists trying to bash evolution

>>52679493
The video provides and shows sources. You don't, for nothing you claimed so far.

So if you want to see your opinion being taken seriously, start coming up with sources, or shut the fuck up. You're looking like a retard, no matter how many times you say "it's a lie!", it's not going to magically make you right.

>>52679510
it is true though .I'm baffled you're willingly allowing yourself to be manipulated to this degree, you can even check both subreddit AMD threads and /g/ archive since it was also posted here...

>>52679531
http://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=355&t=80565&hilit=tessellation+too+much#p888963

>>52679532
Source your shit if you want to be taken seriously.

>>52677852
>no 390X
>no FuryX

>>52679554
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/433asm/nvidia_gameworks_game_over_for_you/czfeewt

And this is just 1 of the countless debunks that have been made you ahve no idea how many videos like this pop up every months.

>>52679552
Wow, so a guy that works for Crytek, the Crysis dev, came out and posted with no sources or facts, that Crysis 2 tesselation is "better than what people think". That, is apparently, enough to show that Crysis 2 doesn't have excessive tesselation, despite all factual proof that confirms it.

Okay guy. Very reliable info there.

>>52679566
>that Crysis 2 tesselation is "better than what people think".


Wow... did you even bother to read the thread?

Also it was not just Crysis developer as the developer tools are available for everyone this has been discussed thoroughly in beyond3d.

>2016
>Falling for clickbait


Sasuga /g/.

>>52679552
They literally dodge the question by saying you can't see them. Holy fuck. How dumb do you have to be to buy that? They don't say its not rendered, they say you can't see them.

>>52679564
>more posts from Nvidia and Crytek reps, only words, no proof
>only pictures shown don't disprove the pictures of the sea underneath the levels at all
>no justification on why performance in Fallout 4 fell through the roof for no reason, especially on Kepler
>no disproving that the issues in Dying Light, Watch Dogs and Arkham Knight are related to GameWorks, even though GameWorks is the only common factor between all of them

That sure seems debunked.

>>52679564
none of that debunks anything lol.

>>52679614
... You are really dumb you know that?

>>52679614
>doesn't knows how LOD works

Back to >>>/v/

>>52679639
>implying you're talking to a single person
There's at least 3 anons right now replying to you. You're the one that's being dumb as fuck.

>>52679654
Or there are 3 guys who are incredibly dumb.

>>52679653
I wouldn't want to go where all the nvidiots who buy all that bullshit are you retard. You don't know shit about geometry culling. You are the one who should fuck off to /v/.

>>52679662
When you're the only one posting circumstantial evidence and word of mouth from reps trying to save face and call it "facts" and "truth", I'd say there's only one dumb person in here.

Someone who explain this site in a few words? (better in spanish)

>>52679701
Nvidia no es bueno.

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>2016
>buying AMD house fire

>>52677610
>Also functional ps3 emulator doesn't exist yet.

It exists, two of them even, they just aren't *fully* functional.

>>52679769
functional implies it does what it needs to do, which it doesn't

>>52679719
Please help me to use this program

There are a lot of faggots in this thread that didn't watch the video. Enjoy spending your hard-earned shekels to upgrade whenever Nvidia decides your card needs to be upgraded.

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>>52678485
Nvidia owners on Nvidia forums are raging about bad drivers too, it's not only AMD owners raging about Nvidia features.

>>52679806
>vista
I think Nvidia is not to blame here..

>>52679842
Just like Windows 10 was at blame when Nvidia drivers were crashing every 15 minutes on it, right...? Alright pal.

>>52679776
>functional implies it does what it needs to do, which it doesn't

But it does. It emulates the PS3. Just not all parts of it, so it is not fully functional. But it certainly functions.

A pocket calculator is not a dysfunctional calculator because it can't do sine and cosine either. It's still a calculator, and a functional one, it just doesn't have as many functions as a fucking TI-89.

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>>52678485

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Apple fag sheeple going hungry to look cool.

Oops, wrong thread. Where the apple troll thread? I prefer trolling on those than the AMD vs nvidia threads.

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>>52679842
>I think Nvidia is not to blame here.

Nvidia fucked over tons of users back in circa 2005-6 when Vista came out. They released the 8800 and claimed DX10 support, but had no Vista drivers, so no one could use them for DX10 for months. They got sued over that.

They also never released nforce3 drivers for Vista, so a shit ton of power systems that could run Vista fine ended up with buggy or non-functional systems (depending on how much the XP drivers were compatible: they worked if you used a Geforce card, but bluescreened every five minutes if you used an ATI card).

Nvidia has a huge history of deliberately fucking people over. By comparison, AMD is only guilty of incompetence.

>>52679852
It was though.. Windows 10 WDDM2.0 has different timings and it caused driver crashed, especially when using hardware acceleration, it wasn't just Nvidia it affected AMD and Intel iGPU too and exactly the same happen with Windows 8, though it took them 6 months to fix it back then, AMD took almost 1 year by the way.

>>52679930
>>52679926
Don't even need to say anything else, really.

I don't even know why amd users would be upset, they've got a tesselation slider to minimize the gameworks damage and their cards are gonna get even faster with dx12/vulkan. What I understand even less is why nvidia users aren't. I'm personally really fucking annoyed every time a new game ready driver fucks me in the ass and it doesn't help that a max tesselation option would be a really nice feature that I don't think I'm ever going to have as a previous generation nvidia user.
I hope the green defense force is just shitposters and shills because as much as some people might like to identify with a brand that gives not a single shit about them and defend them with their lives, we are the ones getting fucked, not amd.

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>>52675227
This isn't capitalism guise! It's totally not the free market at work, it's gubbament making businesses do this.

>>52680032
AMD user here.

I'm not mad, and I share the same opinion as you. Despite Nvidia deliberately trying to fuck over with AMD, AMD cards still do just as good if not better than Nvidia in most cases, while being cheaper for the most part too. I'm comfy as fuck, and I'll get much more out of my 390 for the next years than anyone that got a 780 or a 970 will get.

I don't care if AMD or Nvidia make the most shekels. I care for myself. I'm the consumer, and Nvidia is clearly working against my interests, therefore, I'll avoid them at all costs. If they do end up becoming a monopoly down the road and AMD is kill, well, fuck me, I'm gonna have to bite the pillow eventually, but until then, fuck Nvidia.

>>52680052
You're right. Communism is a much better idea. Let's just install 950s or 360s in everyone's PCs and call it a day, that way, no one can complain about performance anymore, since everyone will get shit frames anyway. Clearly the better option.

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>>52675227
DELETE THIS!

>>52680123
Communism is a better idea, instead of having children mining raw resources and people throwing out computer parts every so few years we could have an open source platform that's highly module and actually recyclable.

>>52675308
NVIDIAPOORFAGS AND THEIR SHIT COMPANY CAN'T INTO PROPER DRIVER SUPPORT

>>52675227
Ethical reasons are enough not to buy NVIDIA

>>52675227
Oh dear, he doesn't even know what PhysX is and what it does, I can't take him seriously.
I mean 5 minutes with google would have sorted that.

PhysX is one of the most popular physics engines used these days in AAA titles and others, a fuckton of games use it.
There are some parts of the engine that can be offloaded to a CUDA capable GPU, but the library runs on the CPU regardless of platform.
Latest SDK provides GPU offloading for clothing, particles and fluids.
But the majority of PhysX users never utilize said effects or never enable GPU offloading capability and just run everything on the CPU.
For example, Unity uses PhysX as it's physics engine, all Unity games use it.
Unreal 4, you guessed it, PhysX.
And so on.

Out of ~500 major games using PhysX only ~50 provide offloading capabilities for some of the previously mentioned effects, which you can turn of if you so wish.

Most of those 50 games don't even run the effects unless PhysX offloading is explicitly enabled, they just downgrade to a CPU based version of the effect or don't use one at all.

Now is Nvidia bad? Yes sometimes, because they are capitalistic pigs who try to monopolize their position via dirty tricks, in an market with only one real competitor.

What's the solution? More competitors, shared open source libraries and consumer backslash if they act out of line.
Btw same goes for AMD, I don't for a second believe their open source hype and Nvidia bashing, they are just suffering and will use any and all tricks to catch up Nvidia.
So these fucking smear campaigns are just as dirty as what Nvidia does.

/g/ is like the marketers wet dream, autistic consumerist whores who once turned to some side will defend it to the worlds end.

>>52679806
>>52679842
>>52679852

Im an Nvidia fag too, that driver bug has been annoying me for the past 3 months until the latest update.

>>52679336
>release gimped driver
>people notice
>fug, rollback, pretend it was mistake
>nvidiots actually believe it

>>52679653
>64x tesselated LODs
Yeah, no.

>>52680428
>PhysX is one of the most popular physics engines used these days in AAA titles and others, a fuckton of games use it.
>There are some parts of the engine that can be offloaded to a CUDA capable GPU, but the library runs on the CPU regardless of platform.
>Latest SDK provides GPU offloading for clothing, particles and fluids.
>But the majority of PhysX users never utilize said effects or never enable GPU offloading capability and just run everything on the CPU.
>For example, Unity uses PhysX as it's physics engine, all Unity games use it.
>Unreal 4, you guessed it, PhysX.
can't you regurgitate nvidia marketing any harder? lol

>>52679785
Just dont update the drivers it's literally that easy. Drivers don't suddenly unlock the potential for old ass hardware.

>>52675227
This is why you should just use AMD cards. AMD is too close to failing as a company to want to fuck you over like this.

So I ordered a 750ti.
Since there seems to be a great amount of shilling here:
Should I grab the drivers made for the card right before the next gen cards released, or should I grab the current ones?

>>52681313
Found the answer for myself.
Either the 347.88, 350.12, or the 320.xx drivers.

>>52680787
Well the only competition is Havok from MS, there are really good open sources engines like ODE, Newton and bullet, but they don't have nearly as much market penetration then the big two.
It's the most commercially used physics engine around. It got really big with Xbox 360, PS2 and other consoles.

And Nvidia didn't create it, they bought it, but whatever.

There's nothing marketing about that fact, unless you don't want to educate yourself.

>>52677683
>not liking william wallace accent

>>52675227
nVidia doing AMD's work for them, nothing new here

>>52679806

they censor ATI LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>52680787
AMD tried making one open source but they abandoned it.

>>52680428
Shut up nvidiot.
Enjoy your housefire 3,5gb gpu.

>>52675227
>Nvidia caught hindering performance on their own cards in Fallout patch 1.3 by 30%, while increasing AMD performance by 10%.


I don't understand; how do they increase AMD's performance?

>>52683699
No, that's not exactly what happened. Bethesda worked on 1.3 themselves, however Nvidia helped them with optimization for Nvidia cards. Afterwards, AMD cards run the game a little better(because that was just Bethesda working on them) and, coincidentally, older generation Nvidia cards ended up running the game way worse.

Step 1: Pretend you are some faggot techie on /g/
Step 2: Call everybody pajeet and poorfag
Step 3: ????
Step 4: You are still a colossal retard

>>52683699
>>52683816
HBAO+ is very compute intensive and requires more bandwidth which AMD is better at compared to Kepler which is why it falls behind.
Maxwell has dedicated hardware to do it and a new PolyMorph Engine to do tessellation, better color compression which reduces memory bandwidth and the double amount of ROPs.

It's not that Kepler is getting gimped is just that Maxwell gets ahead because it has hardware dedicated to the feature, this is why you see the 960 beating Kepler cards, that until you disable the feature and you see the Kepler card back to where it should be.


There are still some stuff exclusive stuff from Maxwell (without counting DX12 features) that Nvidia has yet to use in games like VXGI which should look way way better than HBAO+ and practically free for Maxwell cards and multi-pixelprogrammable sampling which should gives us a better MSAA comparable to SGSSAA.

>>52678241
>bitcoin

>2016
>havent updated drivers on anything since I built the motherfucker 3 years ago
¿

>>52677549
390 clearly wins, but you could buy a little 750 ti or 370 and wait for Polaris

>>52677549
390 clearly wins, but you could buy a little 750 ti or 370 and wait for Polaris

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>>52675227
Wait, there are people that think tessellation doesn't do anything?

Tessellation can really add to ground/wall textures.

>>52677549
I ordered my own R9 390, it was from powercolor because it was 270$, but the Sapphire is the EVGA of AMD.

>>52677721
>>>/v/>>52677721

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>>52675227
>be me
>be poorfag
>own fermi card
>constantly gimped
>play gameworks game at 40-60 fps
>game/driver update released
>it's not even playable anymore
>mfw, it will be gimped even more when Pascal releases
Nvidia, the way it's meant to be gimped. I better save money and get a Polaris card if AMDGPU turns out to be good.

test

>>52684172
AMDpoorfags are memeing just like allways

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>>52675227
ayy lmao

>new driver comes out
>notice decrease in performance
>rollback to previous driver

wow so hard

AMDon't

>>52675347
Truform is basically the PhysX of Ati.

>>52684172
but that still looks like shit

>tfw have GTX 680 and R9 280X in the same system
AMD is only decent on windows, which is a shame.

Unfortunately, I barely use windows nowadays.

>>52677549
Nearly every next gen emu (Xenia, RPCS3, Cemu) has issues with AMD and OGL 4.5.

>>52684257
Better than being a flat texture, especially in your periphery.

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>>52684223
you'll have to update to that new driver some time for that game you just bought and when you do nvidia will be there with no lube

>>52675227
Something doesn't hold up, why would they sabotage Maxwell when they are still their marketed cards?

>>52684264
>next gen
are you fucking kidding

>>52675227
lol all this FUD and yet AMD is still losing market

>>52680428
You will never convince /g/
They're underage poorfags

>>52684172
>When the ground has more detail than the character elements
>When the light is so bad everything shines like it's coated in oil

They shouldn't have put that much focus in the ground if everything else is that bad.

>>52684264
>RPCS3
>single digit framerates on the strongest processors
I guess I'll just stick to the real thing.

fuk

>>52678184
>AMD changes from VLIW5 to VLIW4 for higher efficiency, then make enormous change to completely different GCN architecture

>idiot comes to the technology board to say AMD haven't changed its architecture

Why is /g/ like this today, /g/? I thought this is where you came when you like and know about technology, not where you come to learn the basics.

>>52678061
>because 256bit vs 512bit
It's not because of that, you fucking retard. Bus width only affects memory bandwidth, and memory bandwidth nowhere near being a determining factor, even at 4K the 256-bit Nvidia cards are not bandwidth-starved. AMD cards scale better because of the architecture itself, not because of memory bus width.

>>52678235
>"works best"
>performs worse than AMD on every price point except $650

If you're talking about buying a 980 Ti instead of a Fury X, you are correct. If you are talking about any other price point below that, you are a retard.

Interesting note: the $650 enthusiat market is relatively tiny and well over 90% of the market is below that, mostly around the $150 to $300 range.

>>52678184
nice meme

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>>52684186
underrated comment

>>52678109
Tahiti is the goddamn GOAT.

I'm still running a 780 Ti Classified (only paid $400 for it new 2 years ago) since I sold old hardware I got for free.

Now I'm not sure what to do as I do want more performance due to running 1440p, I can't maintain 60fps with vsync on in titles like TW3, etc. Maxwell can do it, but Kepler took a hit, or was that with that one driver ?

>>52684172
that is the most retarded looking cobblestones I have seen, looks just as retarded as your mother mate

Both AMD and nvidia cards have planned obsolesces. They want to make everyone upgrade every new generation, crippling old cards with current games will make the new gpus look better.

Even mighty cards like the 980 ti, will be eating crap from the new 200 dollars card.

Vulkan fucking when reeee

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>>52679453
>AMD drivers lack multithreading

>>52679304
A web site run by a japanese jew?

>>52680256
Fuck off commie.

>>52685177
i learned the basics here and in the enb forums. but i never posted much and only talk about stuff i understand.

>>52678819
I can't help to Poo in Loo every time I see poo, but Raja is alright.

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>>52678819
all tech companies are infested with indians nowadays.

>>52678996
Oy vey, remember the 3.50000 gb

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>AMD/Nvidia both need to release drivers every time a new game comes out.
>It's just a bunch of hacks
>GPU drivers are literally WinSxS and Shim Database
Why the fuck is this allowed?
Why not make the actual game devs fix their piece of shit code and let the driver work as intended instead of keeping bugs around because some fucktarded dev did something in a way that's not intended.

>>52685878
Great rebuttal.

>>52683699
The stuff nvidia put in to fuck AMD cards weren't compatible with the new stuff so they removed it. Nobody is benchmarking the game any more and AMD doesn't have enough market share anyways.

Can you imagine what a clusterfuck desktop computing would be if every part vendor pushed their proprietary shit enhancements with their products?

Than god most just implement their products to spec.

>>52678235
20 rupees has been deposited into your acount pajeet

>>52677852
it really is funny, amd drivers are actually decent now and have been for awhile meanwhile more and more nvidia users complain about crashes on here al the time.

>>52678937

but batman was a disaster, game works is a massive failure

>>52687510
batman was a disaster because wb hired a shitty developer to port the console version to pc
When all games are coded on a pc to begin with I don't see why all games shouldn't be pc ports and not the other way round

>>52675227
>Nvidia just announced Pascal will be out in 2nd half of 2016
I don't see what's so critical about this. AMD's dropping Polaris at the same time. They're both capitalising on the back to school period.

>>52675227
Not to mention nvidia quietly renders things at a lower quality, the way it's meant to be gimped.

>>52687758
>quietly
You clearly haven't heard the fans on these cards, sweetie.

>>52687587
Every shitty gamework game ran shitty because of some convoluted excuse. It definitely doesn't mean gameworks is shit.

>>52687906
He's not talking about actual noise made by the card, but instead the drivers forcing lower quality settings like less intensive AA.

>>52685685
This is a Christian image board anon..

>>52687970
IT'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL HUMOR, A PUN ON THE WORD QUIET

THOSE WITH AUTISM HAVE TROUBLE WITH FIGURES OF SPEECH AND HUMOR USING WORD-PLAY