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Why using SSD's?
You spent 200 bucks for a ludicrous amount of storage just because its a few seconds faster?
I understand that its useful when you need reliable and shockproof storage, but I don't understand why someone would use that in a desktop PC when you can get more than 4TB for the same price.
Did I miss something, /g/?
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>>51595723
I got a 500gb SSD for 130 on amazon

it makes everything on it run way faster, say good by to loading times on virtually every game
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>>51595763
Also I don't need 4tb of space, I already have a 1tb drive thats more than enough
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Is this bait?
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>>51595723

>few seconds

it's actually quite significant

sour grapes much?
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>>51595782
well i use my pc for many thing and I need at least 2TB.
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>>51595874
then thats just you then
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>>51595723
Is this serious?
In any case, you don't need a massive amount of space. Just enough for the OS and essential programs that would benefit greatly from the SSD. And $200 is a very outdated number. You can get 250GB for like $80 and then, if you were smart, you'd get an HDD for everything else.
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>>51595867
how much is the difference?
I remember that starting a game is ~30s faster on my PS3.
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>>51595840
yes
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lets say your pc boots 10 seconds faster than a regular hard drive

thats 3650 seconds in a year, and a full hour of not slow hard drive experience.
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>>51595723
Why get a car with more horsepower? You'll only save a few seconds or fractions of a second in your 0-60 times. Go buy a 1.0L diesel and save so many money's.
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>>51595723
>another thread of a poorfag crying because he can't afford an SSD

save up that allowance money mom gives you and maybe you'll be able to upgrade one day :^)
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>>51595723
Because I appreciate the convenience of having slightly faster loading speeds, and I'm not a data hoarder so I don't need storage space.
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>>51595723
>pc boots in 15seconds instead of 1 and a half minutes
>pc doesn't ludicrously lag after boot
>everything opens faster

When will this "ssds are a meme" meme die?
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>>51595928
On my PC, everything is instant. Programs start up instantly. Games load faster. They're silent. My boot time went from roughly a minute(minus waiting for the desktop to be usable) to being able to be on the desktop and opening programs in under 10 seconds from the moment I touched the power button.
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>>51596509
I don't care about boot times, but the lag after boot is fucking horrible.
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>>51596556
I prefer slower load times, it's more authentic.
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>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173072
>SanDisk SSD PLUS 2.5" 240GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SDSSDA-240G-G25

for 60usd
Is this a good deal?
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>>51596923
Absolutely. 4 months ago I got a 120GB for $80 USD and it makes me pretty mad that a month after I bought mine they dropped to $40~$50 for most of them.
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>>51595723
I don't use one because I built my computer before they were cheap.
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>>51595723
Just buy a 250GB SSD for system and 4TB HDD for storage.
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>>51597189
Should I be scared about the reviews it received?
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I built my wife a computer for Christmas and installed the OS on a SSD. It boots in 10 seconds flat.

My new build is going to have one now.
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>>51597301
Meh, I have a Kingston and they get a lottttt of shit, but this tells me that it's not that bad. Though, Sandisks have an abnormal amount of bad reviews, but I know a lot of people personally who have them and they don't really have any complaints. It may not be as reliable as say a Samsung 850 or something, but then, my Kingston was said not to be, either.
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>>51595723
>I don't understand why someone would use that in a desktop PC when you can get more than 4TB for the same price
Because, you know, work. Some people do that with their computers. Like me. I'm a video editor and for editing 4K videos, the SSD raid array I've got running helps a fucking lot.
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I have an SSD mainly so I can feel cool when I post my computer specs on /g/, post in speccy threads, so my hardware sig looks good on hardware forums, so that I feel like I am current, so that my chinese cartoons and pony cartoons load faster, and because it only took one of my taco bell paychecks to afford it.
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>SSD
>not exclusively using RAM

What are you, a poorfag?
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>>51597400
Thanks
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>>51595723
Why the fuck would you need 4 terabytes anyway? My HDD is 40 GB and it works just fine. I have no idea why people have such bloated internal hard drives.
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>>51597707

I've used the same 80GB hard drive in my desktop since 2007. I keep waiting for my storage requirements to increase but they never do.

People use those huge drives for illegally downloaded movies, porn, and video games.
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>>51597948
the only reason my 80GB drive was not enough was because I had wasted 16GB for a windows install that I never used.
>in b4 why not blow it away
I couldn't without wiping and repartitioning the whole drive, and because I'm a lazy fuck.
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Would it be worth putting a hybrid drive in a PS4 or is it pointless?
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>>51595723
its a godsend for slow apps and games. now when a server changes the map in a game i am no longer the last person to spawn.
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>>51598033
can ps4 even handle multiple partitions?
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Shit runs fast
Uses less power
No moving parts
Got 480gb for $110
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Got a 500GB Samsung EVO 950 for $85.

Not complaining.
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>>51596853
>poorfag justification
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>>51598292
>implying

show screenshot
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>>51597580

>RAM
>not exclusively using caches

What fucking year is it
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>>51598347
The invoice won't show it because of all the coupons and other discounts I stacked.

Newegg is selling the Samsung 500GB Evo for $149.99.
-$15 using a newegg coupon
-$10 from ebates.com
-$25 from the newegg bundled Assassin's Creed Syndicate CD Key that I sold on g2a.com
-$20 from the Groupon deal 2 days ago that sold a $100 Newegg GC + 1 year of Premier for $80
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>>51597707
I have literally tens of Coalgirls releases.
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Back before it was patched I was always the first to get to the choppers/jets on Battlefield games while HDD subhumans frothed from their laggy mouths
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>>51597707
Because archiving n' shit. I have 3.5 terabytes of work related stuff alone on my drives. Plus about 2 terabytes of movies. 1tb of music.
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>>51597948
Just because you can't afford 4TB worth of movies, porn, and video games doesn't mean nobody else can, senpai
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>>51595723
got a 2 tb hybrid drive in my desktop, 500gb SSD in my laptop.

my laptop now boots in less time than it takes for me to type in my password
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>>51595723
>what is virtual memory
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7 times as fast as an hdd
Doesn't make any noise
Looks sexy
A lot smaller
Fits in desktops and laptops, if you're shiggy diggy
Doesn't slow down as much over time
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>>51597707
My music video folder is 321 GB. Well worth it to watch music videos in the highest quality.
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>>51595874
Like hentai and stuff?
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>>51600222
where do you get your kpoop from?
also nice trips
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>>51600222
>Well worth it to watch music videos in the highest quality.
>Actually watching music videos out of JewTube.
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>>51598033
Hybrid drives are retarded, you get all the disadvantages of an hdd, with a little bit of ssd to relieve your pain sometimes.
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>>51600266
jpopsuki

Some of the music videos are over 4 GBs. I also have performances in 4K.

>>51600288
Not from youtube. It's the master version. Note the size of the video.
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>>51600340
Do you get sexually excited when the video is 4GB?
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>>51600432
A little bit.
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>Why using SSD's?
they're faster and inexpensive
>You spent 200 bucks
i've never spent over $100 on a non-mechanical drive
>just because its a few seconds faster?
yes
>I don't understand why someone would use that in a desktop PC when you can get more than 4TB for the same price.
there is no mutual exclusivity
you buy a drive for os, you buy a drive for storage

are you a single drive user?
why are you a single drive user?
did you know you can use more than one drive?
do you know how to use more than one drive?
have you been operating like this for as long as you've been using computers?
how long have you been using computers?
do you find the cloud easier to understand for you?
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>>51600340
how easy is it to get into it?
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>>51600517
Minimal requirement is moderate autism but OP has massive autism, so it must be easy for him.
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>>51600517
I asked someone on /mu/ for an invite. Just look for the kpop threads.

They have music videos on Blu-ray too. The quality is so good that you can see their pimples.
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There's been a flood of threads like this. Apparently someone has gone off their meds again.
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>>51600630
thanks senpai
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>>51600340
>3m 46s
>1080p
>4 FUCKING POINT 63 GB

someone doesn't know how to compress

>inb4 muh lossless music videos
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>>51600839
Well worth every byte my friend.
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>>51595723
I frequently switch between OSes and already have a 1tb and 2tb drive to store my files. When my main boot drive started crapping out there was no reason to buy anything but an SSD. Picked up a 250gb evo when it went on sale.

Boot times are 2-3 seconds after bootloader, compiling programs and playing WoW has never been faster, no lag between logging into windows and actually being able to open programs.
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Is having a 250GB or bigger SSD even necessary? You just need to put system files on it and maybe one or two vidyagayms that you're currently playing that you'll swap out later. A 120GB one should be enough for that.

I'm legit curious, what do you need a bigger SSD for?
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Raid 0 babby's will never understand the true power of the SSD master race
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I have a 120gb SSD for OS and Adobe suit. Scratch disk is on a 1Tb drive though. Faster bootup times and faster load times. From the time I press the power button to desktop screen it takes 15 seconds. Adobe suite starts up instantly within 2 seconds even on a cold boot.

For work every second counts. If you can shave off 5 seconds on a task every day repeatedly then it's worth doing. Productivity is everything. And less time you spend waiting the more productive you can be.
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>>51595874
like porn and stuff?
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>>51601492
You should always try to keep your SSD under 70% use. Sometimes the price to size/performance is just worth picking up 250gb. Personally I think over 500gb is stupid since you're straight up better off getting a 3tb WD, no matter what
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It's more than a few seconds faster, especially when booting and loading newer games. The speed adds up, as well; you don't get that time back. You missed that people still don't need 4TB yet and the capabilities of using an SSD with a hard disk to get the best of both worlds.

I'm honestly surprised that it is almost 2016 and we are still debating the usefulness of SSDs.
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>>51595723
>You spent 200 bucks for a ludicrous amount of storage just because its a few seconds faster?
Yes

>I understand that its useful when you need reliable and shockproof storage, but I don't understand why someone would use that in a desktop PC when you can get more than 4TB for the same price.
Rotating magnetic disks are slow as fuck. 16x PCIe gen3 SSDs have a lot lower latency and incredible bandwidths.

>Did I miss something, /g/?
Yes, the obvious. You install your system on a SSD and mount /home on your rotating disk.
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>>51595874
like illegally copied/downloaded films and stuff?
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>>51601492
Some programs require that the install files/data be stored on the main drive. For instance, I have a Centos home server with Apache, I filled up 80GB SSD with website files, so I had to buy a 250GB SSD.
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>>51601662
Right now you can get a 120 GB SSD for $25. There's really no reason not to get one.
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Got a 500GB ssd in my laptop, can hot and cold start windows 10 and Linux and be fully functional in 8 seconds
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>>51601706
>Apache
>requires files to be stored "on the main drive"
uh, no?

Just configure it, you can point it at literally any directory.
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You'll never go back after you've had your system on SSD. Loads instantly, no lag after the boot, everything opens before you can even blink an eye. Works especially well with some games that load a lot of textures - any sign of stutter during the gameplay is gone and loading times are nearly instant as well. Yes, they're still fairly expensive and overkill for most tasks, but it's honestly the best purchase you can make for your PC.
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>>51601747
Yes, but then I wouldn't be getting the benefits of the SSD. Not to mention that it's a pain in the ass to configure it to look else where for the /www when the whole lamp stack is expecting it to be at /var/www.
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I'm a poorfag and my desktop is 6 years old, but I still bought an SSD because I'm not retarded.
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>200 bux
>ludicrous amounts of storage
Uh, no? I paid about $150USD for a 500gb Samsung 850 Pro. Unless you're a horsefucking pornhoarder or pirate all the movies, 500gb is plenty for a standalone drive.

As to why I use a SSD, load times on large programs. Because even with a 10k RPM Velociraptor (which was also only 500gb and a hell of a lot more than $200) MasterCAM would take a solid 3 minutes to load up and Solidworks would take a good minute.
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I heard you cant just delete shit and clear up space but have to overwrite it. So like if i down'oad some 5gb game amd beat it, i cant just get that 5gb back by uninstalling?

Are ssds more durable? My hdd fucked after transporting it overseas with me
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>>51601788
>Yes, but then I wouldn't be getting the benefits of the SSD
That's true

>Not to mention that it's a pain in the ass to configure it to look else where for the /www when the whole lamp stack is expecting it to be at /var/www.
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#documentroot

You think changing one line in a configuration file (two if you allow users to have their own files in their own home directory) is "a pain in the ass"?

>the whole lamp stack
PHP is a module to Apache, and MySQL doesn't give two fucks where the document root is.
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>>51601851
>So like if i down'oad some 5gb game amd beat it, i cant just get that 5gb back by uninstalling?
No, you "get it back".

>>51601851
>Are ssds more durable?
The answer to this is both yes and no. There are less moving parts in an SSD and also using magnetic disks are kinda flaky because they degrade in quality over time.

However, SSDs usually use memory technology that has a finite number of writes you can do (so their life expectancy is lower than of a rotating disk, although rotating disks tend to fail quite often). Also, you might be able to partly recover data from a magnetic disk with some bad sectors, if your SSD fails it tends to be catastrophic.
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>>51595723
Thing is with SSDs is that, the performance gain is not just in boot times, everything just becomes stupid fast, your apps launch faster, they're more responsive, everything loads up quickly, even sites that are cached, those few big games you have that take too long to load now load in seconds(I'm looking at you, FO4 and BF4) and all in all, those seconds that you shave off really do add up quickly, especially if you use your PC as much as I do. One advice that I'll always follow to heart is that you should never skimp out on stuff that you always use, it has always baffled me how people could spend a grand on a phone yet when it came to their laptop, a grand is suddenly too much, for something that they use a lot and do actual work with. Same goes for a plethora of stuff that people use so much but aren't really investing in them enough, especially if they can very much afford it.
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>>51595874
like netflix and chill stuff?
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>>51595874
like access logs and stuff?
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>>51601921
Also, SSDs have become quite cheap now, you can get 256GB for sub 100 euros and get 3 3TB HDDs for storage, you can have the best of both worlds and if 85 euros is still too much then just get 64GB or 128GB, they're really cheap now.
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>>51595874
like 4chan reaction pics and stuff?
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>>51602002
1Tb 850 pro is still like $420 on sale.

I dont use much so maybe 500 iw enough considering it might fail, but then again it has a 10 year warranty
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>>51602227
Honestly, I'd advice against going for a 1TB SSD, just get a small one that'll fit all your apps + a big game or two and get something massive for actual storage cause while the performance gain is nice in search times, you won't really benefit from it when playing back media.
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>>51595782
>>51595874
>>51597220
>>51598586
>>51598760
>>51601662
Faggots using terabyte drives desu kek senpai
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>>51600252
>Tfw my sister told me the same when I bought my 2TB hard drive.
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>>51601714
i'm really thinking of buying that shit...
but people just >kingston me. is it really bad?
is a sandisk x300 128gb a lot better for an extra 12$?
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>>51595723
I used to use this PC with a HDD. It fucking sucked, and it wasn't bad. Core i7 4790k and GTX 970. But then i got a SSD. Menus now load at the speed of light.
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SSDs are cheap enough now that it's worth spending a little more money for a dedicated system/program drive to save a few seconds every time you load something.

Even if you just save a minute or two a day from quicker booting, faster starting applications, and less loading screens in games, that shit adds up to dozens of hours over the lifetime of the drive.
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I got one because every time I let Poser porn render I could hear my HDD being thrashed by endless seemingly random reads. Defragging didn't help, the drive would buzz louder than any other drive-related activity. It never failed after years of this, but it always worried me.

So when pricing on quality drives got to a point that I could supplant the 300GB Velociraptor, I bought an Intel 730. No more worrying coffee grinder, no more 55° temp for 30+ hours, and as a side bonus renders take about 15% less time because the queue manager's not waiting on HDD seek time.

Boot time is irrelevant because why would you ever restart your computer, and program load time isn't remarkably faster or even noticeable in some cases. So if you're buying an SSD for those reasons, I don't disagree with it being meme-tier on a desktop. Laptop drives are insufferably slow though, so probably noticeable there.
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>>51604829
>Boot time is irrelevant because why would you ever restart your computer, and program load time isn't remarkably faster or even noticeable in some cases.

This is why I bought a cheap 120 GB SSD. I want to notice the difference myself before investing in faster and bigger SSDs.
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>>51595979
>booting up every day
Why when you can have that 19 day uptime looking so good?
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>>51595723
because the difference between an SSD and the shitty 5400 RPM drive in my laptop makes a huge difference
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>>51600484
I used to keep the whole system except for /usr, /home, and /var on one tiny SSD (read-only /usr is outdated. packages are not built according to UNIX tradition and always install to /usr, and sometimes /usr/local, not /opt or a subdirectory in ~)

Then redhat's "great idea" of "simplifying" the system layout came out

That idea was symlinking everything to /usr because what sun does is always a good idea (see: PAM, the best thing ever made)
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>>51595723

>You spent 200 bucks

I spent 35 bucks.

You're a kekold if you spent 200 dollars on a SSD.
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>>51605001
>wasting electricity
>reducing lifespan of hardware

And don't give me the old "it's better to let your hardware run 24/7" excuse. The fans in your case will wear out far before the heads of your hard drive.
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[GO]
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>>51607652
It has nothing to do with fans. It has to do with the massive component-level voltage spike that happens every time you push the power button, with or without a UPS.

The first 100ms of startup are orders of magnitude harsher on your components than the following 1000ms. I've personally had three hard drives, one motherboard, two sticks of ram and two CPUs die immediately on startup, following prolonged and uninterrupted run time. I just lost 14TB of data to it last week in fact, when my boot drive corrupted itself, which in turn corrupted my RAID's partition table on boot. The machine had previously had 246 days of uptime before the last restart and hadn't actually been powered off since 2013 when I expanded the array from 6TB. First shutdown and zap.

How poor are you anyway where you can't afford to leave a computer idling at 60 watts? Keeping the lights on must be quite the struggle.
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>2015
>needing to rebooting a computer

Who the fuck does that? Oh yeah, I forgot, Windows users
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>>51607599
what ssd did you get?
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>>51609803
not him but i'm looking at the sandisk X300 on jet, which would come about to 36
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My wasteful housemate considered his 64gb msata ssd to be worthless, and gave it to me. One $6 enclosure later it's perfectly good for some extra game space.

Hue.

Well that's why I have two, anyway.
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I have a 240Gb SSD in my desktop. The rest is in the NAS.
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>>51601714
thinking of buying one as my first SSD being a poorfag and all but doesn't kingston get a lot of shit?
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>>51596853
>I prefer slower load times, it's more authentic.
Now would be a great time to kill yourself.
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>>51610493
i checked the reviews on places, and for an extra 10 you can double your write speeds >>51610220

honestly i don't know much about ssds though, so i could be considering another garbage drive
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>>51610604
I might just spend the extra bucks for a 120gb Samsung evo off jet, it's only 25+ more anyway
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>>51595723
>>51595867
>>51596041
>>51596509

can't tell if troll, but I got mine for OS and a few games, and VMs, it's significantly faster.

Now I'm looking at my CPU as the bottleneck, which is something I haven't done in years. It's come full circle.
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>>51597707

vidya gayms
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>>51601696
Something wrong with that?
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>>51595723
Here's your (You)
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