/hpg/ - Headphones General

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1th for ear-rape In-ear

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>>51529233
More like "OP is a massive cocksucking weeb faggot Edition"

>>51529352
>ear-rape
>raw measurement
?

Why isn't the Yeti on the microphone guide again?

Oh that's right, because it's popular.

It's cheaper than the AT2020USB and performs roughly the same.

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>tfw fell for the M50x meme
>nigger bass
>feels like I fucking bought beats by nigger
Why. I knew I should've bought senns

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>>51529401
Forgive my ignorance, anon. I still can't read graph properly. Especially if there isn't the target graph.

How to read this? Rolled off treble with elevated bas cannon?

>>51529352
>>51529511
How about don't listen to bright music you faggot

>>51529571
How about you recommend synth pop artist with dark music?

>>51529511
>>51529352
Are you the kind of guy who plugs a single balanced armature IEM into a DAC line out to complain about the treble?

>>51529618
Go buy apple earpods and get the fuck out

>>51529511
that's a bassy as fuck IEM with colored peaky treble. probably sounds like ass.

>>51529463
>Bought Senn HD800 for 1k
>Sounds alright
>I bought something for 1k that sounds alright

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>>51529352
>>51529385
>>51529401
>>51529404
>>51529463
>>51529511
>>51529571
>>51529618
>>51529649
>>51529673
>>51529678
hello enjoy your (You)

do you own multiple headphones? is it worth getting multiple pairs to have different sounding headphones possibly for different music?or is an equalizer enough?

>>51529463
Are they really that bad? I was thinking of picking up a pair.

>>51529686
>spending 1k on headphones

>>51529686
I bet you can't wait to spend $2k on the HD800S for it to sound 'a little better'.

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>>51529686
>>51529463
>Buy HE400i for 500$
>NOT EVEN 2 WEEKS LATER THEY ARE ON SALE FOR 200$ LESS

>>51529463
You need something that actually benefits from bass, like industrial metal or psybient

>>51529698
>do you own multiple headphones?
No.

>is it worth getting multiple pairs to have different sounding headphones possibly for different music?
If you have money to waste, why not.

>is an equalizer enough?
No

>>51529738
Like snoop dogg amiright?
Fuck you

>>51529698
Here's a tip: Get comfy headphones with good fidelity out of the box. EQ them to be even higher fidelity. You're set forever.

>>51529757
Not him but do you have a problem with Snoop Doggy Dogg, faggot?

>>51529757
I just listed two things that have nothing to do with nigger rap

you fucking idiot

m40x or hd25 II?

>>51529759
Are HE400i good enough?

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>needing specific kind of colored headphones for a specific genre of music
How dumb are you? The entire concept is retarded.

>>51529794
Yes.

>>51529824
This desu. The music itself is the color. Why in the world would I want my audio equipment to color it even more?

>>51529824
>needing headphones
How dumb are you? The entire concept is retarded.

>>51529843
Would it be dumb to get various headphones as sidegrades? Like HD650 and K701

>>51529824
>buying headphones to listen to music

>>51529785
fucking reply please

>>51529894
Yes. I seriously don't see the point. HD 650 would be my pick over HE-400i but they are both good options. K701 is something I wouldn't even consider.

>>51529953
Why, why, and why?

Should i buy an ath m40x or a new processor instead? I've just been using iphone earbuds for vidya and music

>>51529951
HD 25 is easier to service but usually costs much more than m40x. It's smaller and has more clamp than the m40x.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00?guest_mode=open
http://www.head-fi.org/t/788776/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-review

Is anyone else excited?

>>51530422
not really. It's not anything special.

>>51530831
It actually is though.

>>51530831
Fostex or this deal in general?

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KZ ATE. Yay or nay?

>>51530858
Fostex in general. This is still a dynamic driver, the whole biodynamic driver thing is a gimmick. There are lots of dynamic drivers with gimmicky materials and technologies like
Beyerdynamic's Tesla, JVC's carbon nanotube drivers, CAL 2's Bio-Cellulose diaphragms... etc. They've been making these drivers since the 80's and the TH-x00 is just a
returned Denon AHD2000/TH600/TH900, both of the latter hardly compete in their price ranges. The only reason people got them was because of their bass extension and now that
they've tuned it to be flatter it hardly matters because the other aspects aren't that exceptional as far as sound quality goes. They will sound just as good as 400 dollar headphones
but nothing more. They look pretty but that's were my love ends. That non detachable cable looks horrible and it terminates on a 6.5mm plug and i'd much rather
have a 3.5mm with a screw on adapter.

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>>51529698
>do you own multiple headphones?
Yeah
>is it worth getting multiple pairs to have different sounding headphones possibly for different music?
If you like collecting headphones, sure, but for the sole purpose of listening to different genres? No, it costs a lot less to pick just one headphone that's comfortable and works for you. For most people i know who are into headphones having two (one portable and one for home use) is enough.
>is an equalizer enough?
Whille i wouldn't say it's "enough" as in "it will fix every problem", it surely helps. Say you have bassier headphone that fits your taste for hip-hop or something and want to listen to Glenn Miller for some reason, EQing down the bass is a much cheaper alternative than buying another headphone.

>>51530422
>Jude
>Review

In the garbage it goes. That man is nothing but a spokesman for headfi.

>>51531153
>man
sorry but you can't call someone that short a man

>>51531106
If your friend with the HD600s moved away and you no longer had access to them would you feel the desire to buy your own pair or does their sound not justify that expenditure?

>>51531198
Sorry, manlet.

>>51531213
Perhaps for collection purposes, in fact i always keep an eye open for some models i'd like to have, HD600 is one, but otherwise probably not, i mean, it sounds great imo, but it's not something i'd "need", the headphones i have already satisfy my needs, in fact, i'd probably be happy just with the DT800 and the V6, the others have being seeing less and less use.

>Tfw HD800s in the mail

What do I do to entertain myself for 1-2 weeks?

>>51531491
Well you've clearly got the 'blog about it in /hpg/' part down.

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>>51531491
welcome to the family senpai. its hard for to listen to IEMs when im out of the house due to how good the HD800s are. I'm tempted to buy SE846s now

>>51531491
Return them when you find out they're shit.

>>51531598
lmao fuck off aus autist

>>51531598
But SE846 is trash.

hpg is cancer now. why do i bother going to these threads

>>51531105
Tesla is the easiest "gimmick" to copy, seeing as how any manufacturer wants to increase magnetic field density.
It's not a gimmick in that stronger magnetic field increases force on the coil, but it is in that the wire loop length and geometry determine the final result.
It's definitely not something worth building a brand around.

>>51530266
Why do you want the new processor?

>>51531645
>now
you must be new here

>>51529698
>do you own multiple headphones?
Used to own many more than the one pair I have now, plus the IEM.
>is it worth getting multiple pairs to have different sounding headphones possibly for different music
No. There is a decent chance you will gravitate to one pair for most tracks, unless you wanted some pretty headphones as a showpiece. I can't know your needs, so better not to declare absolutes.
>or is an equalizer enough?
Equalizers are a very powerful tool. They don't do everything, but people constantly underrate the effect of frequency response, and the effect that an EQ can have. Using one effective might displace other headphones in rotation.

>>51531914
>but people constantly underrate the effect of frequency response, and the effect that an EQ can have
I remember when I first got into the hobby, the thought of getting a frequency response measurement graph and flipping it upside-down in EQ to get a flat response was laughable and EQ could do nothing but degrade audio fidelity.

It's these kinds of misconceptions projected onto newbies that are a real problem.

>>51531491
pic your favorite albums and give them some special attention so it will be more appearent what's different between the HD800 and your older headphones, make a list of the ones you think will sound best on it, make find a movie or some vydia you find to sound particularly nice sounding.

>>51531914
>people constantly underrate the effect of frequency response
Agreed. While there are things that an EQ can't fix, knowing how to adjust a frequency response can do wonders.

>>51529722
amazon covers that kind of shit
where did you buy from faggot

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>>51529233
Question. How do I clean the HD800 earpads without fucking up the fabric?

>>51531106
Are you planning to get any others?

>>51531938
>I remember when I first got into the hobby, the thought of getting a frequency response measurement graph and flipping it upside-down in EQ to get a flat response was laughable
Can you explain to a noob what this means and how to achieve it?

>>51532149
lint roller?

Anyone know any mods for the band for the Superlux 668b's? The wings are digging really hard into my head.

>>51532336
break them in

>>51532161
There are several i'd like to add to my collection some day, like the HD600, K702, K242HD, M100, K601, X2 etc, but none of them are priorities (some i can't even find in my country). I do want to get and test a few "upgrades" like an HE560, some Stax and perhaps an HD800 for dynamic drivers.
Honestly, for now all i need is a pair of near field monitors, i'm nearly graduated, people are starting to ask me to mix/master stuff and i'll not have access to the college's monitors for much longer.

>>51532400
I've had them for months, the inner corners are hard and digging into my scalp to the point of leaving imprints.

>>51532408
You gonna go kilobuck on the nearfields? Neumann?

>>51531938
>I remember when I first got into the hobby, the thought of getting a frequency response measurement graph and flipping it upside-down in EQ to get a flat response was laughable and EQ could do nothing but degrade audio fidelity.
>It's these kinds of misconceptions projected onto newbies that are a real problem.
I wonder how these things start, or get perpetuated. I know there are many awful graphic EQs, but we have better things now for free.

>>51532191
Measure a headphone with an accurate mic to get the frequency response. Fix the headphone response so that it is a flat frequency response, fill in the dips, chop down the peaks and so on.
Do it with a parametric EQ with sufficient bands for precise adjustments.

>>51532432
But he's from Brazil.

There is an offer going on in Amazon right now
>Logitech G35 for 56€

Should I go for it or buy the HyperX Cloud I as anon suggested me before because they are basically Takstar Pro80?

>>51532457
>I wonder how these things start, or get perpetuated.
It's much easier to convince someone gettint into the hobby that something so simple, easy to access and -logical- actually works. Same with gear and their pricing, somebody new to the hobby is much more inclined to believe a $500 DAC is going to sound better than a $50 DAC and so on.

>But he's from Brazil.
LSR305 it is!

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>>51531105
yeah but they're so pretty

>>51532432
Hell no, don't have the cash for that, at least not yet, probably LSR305 like >>51532497 said, have seem decent producers do good job with less.

>>51532420
lose weight

>>51532535
Yeah it's very high class.

>>51532457
I think I lack a basic understanding of these terms to understand what I'm supposed to do

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>>51532408
>college's monitors
What are they?

>>51532595
What do you know about equalizers and frequency response?
This is an example of a parametric EQ. You define the frequency that is to be targeted and the range of sound that is affected.

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Who else /px100/ here?

>>51532753
For a while use used some shitty m-audio monitors, today they use Genelec ones, i believe it's the 8050B, can't remember exactly. Still, we spend most of the time with headphones, mixing/mastering exams for example, you just can't have that many students making noise, the teachers were however trying to figure ways so that more people listen to the same pair of monitors without getting too affected by not being in the sweet spot, it would come in handy for classes.

hey /hpg/ anybody with q701s care to share what amp/dac they are using, the magni+modi combo looks nice but much more than I want to pay. maybe a 2 in 1 amp/dac would be a less expensive option? I'm willing to spend around 100$ (in the US) and having very little noise is important to me, I have had a pretty shit experience with the fiio e11.

>>51532974
don't even need one

>>51532985
I am ok with listening quietly, but would an onboard soundcard from a thinkpad or a cheap android phone as the only power source make it sound less full or punchy?

>>51532933
>For a while use used some shitty m-audio monitors
That's comically bad.

>>51532974
What was wrong with E11?
Schiit fulla?

>>51529233
Those little headphones are awesome.
Dolls creeps me out though

>>51531222
>>51531198
He's asian
That makes you 2 white males rasist opresors

>>51529233
I need a pdf of that book

>$200 and under headphones

>no HD558

Why not? They are fairly neutral and easy to power.

>>51529352
That's a great measurement. It's not as DF as Etymotic and it doesn't extend as well in the highs but I'd take that XBA-100 over many choices for a portable IEM.

*Note I don't like Etymotic IEMs, they're a benchmark for sound quality but it's too finicky to deal with outside, for me at least.

>>51533129
The guide is extremely biased and it should be removed. The mic/interface guide should also be removed as it has nothing to do with headphones.

In fact, there should only be the request purchase advice and the wiki link in the OP. The 200 and over headphone image can go in the wiki.

The OP is full of shit.

The IEM guide is outdated, maybe that can stay as it's actually decent.

>>51533073
there are plenty of asian women taller than him

>>51533210
enjoying your hd600s senpai?

>>51533531
*HD650

>>51533559
pretty close, gotta give myself credit
why dont you make a guide?

>>51533575
I don't care enough to do it.

I rarely post here and I don't use my HD650 much since I got speakers.

>>51533210
Thank you for reassuring me that shill's in my local shop claims that xba-100 is "fun" version of etymotic isn't totally wrong. I've never hear etymotic and I don't want purchase such a fragile IEM for $200. I should take his words more seriously in the future.

>>51533602
doesnt have to be pretty
its a shame to have confident people not want to help

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>>51533129
> easy to power.

>>51533637
Very, actually.

>>51533620
Maybe he's right, I haven't heard it myself. And it seems to have smooth treble a la Etymotic. I didn't think it would be so expensive since single the other single driver Sony BAs are quite cheap.

I have no use for IEMs since I bought a car.

>>51533629
Under $200 there's A LOT of options as well, I'm a bit of a perfectionist, if I end up doing it, it would have to be complete and most importantly free of silly fanboy biases. I'm not a Sennheiser shill but the omission of them is plain anti-shilling.

>>51533637
But he's right you shitposter.

>>51533697
i would say as long as you cover all or most of the most important bases youd be good
like, 2 sections, above and below 200
in each one, best "mobile" (low impedance) closed headphone, best "home" (high impedance) closed headphone. best mobile and home open headphone. these are a good start and just an example. and you just keep going for as many metrics as you care to go for.

>>51533040
E11 was noisy from the start, and at some point a few months in it was making this repeated buzzy morse code sound which was louder than whatever music was playing usually

>>51533697
It's nearly half-priced from etymotic actually. Good compromise I guess. What speaker did you use for your car?

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>>51531616
Here's your reply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZPj9F0y18. Sorry. But it's time for me to go and stop lurking here. I was wondering if I should retaliate immediately to your insult.

Thank you to that anon who gave me the advice to try Stax and Hifiman headphones from months ago. Thank you for that anon who posted about the Philips SHP9500 that was on sale. I've joined the bandwagon. And now it's time I jumped out of it.

Bla bla bla, nobody f'ing cares. Well I do when I get personal insults. >>51531598 is not even me. I own a very cheap LG and Asus monitor. Do you see me shitpost or shill? I never have!

Everytime I put on my headphones and listen I feel like crap. And now after venting I feel "a little bit better!". My headphones now sound sweet now that I've left /hpg/. If you want to leave a HATEFUL post or reply. Leave it. I'm taking a very long break from lurking here. I hope you're happy with more cancer and greed.

>>51533727
Best is entirely subjective. I feel that listing the attributes of headphones in the guide can make a user of the guide select the product that's best to his/her taste.

For example one user may want a neutral sound and the other will want strong bass, there's options for both. Picking a particular product as best would just create bias in the guide, even if you try to use sound quality as a metric (most neutral), it's pointless as the guide is to help the user make an informed decision.

I understand that there's some guys who literally have zero knowledge and just want something decent and maybe there should be a particular note to get that specific one.

>>51533765
>Sorry. But it's time for me to go and stop lurking here.
How many times have you said this now? Just fuck off.

Any opinion on the Audeze EL-8s? I was thinking of getting the closed ear version for $600 from a mom and pop shop.

>>51533809
Look amazing, sound like shit. This is the open model though, but from what I've heard the closed model is even worse.

>>51533819
Ah alright. Thanks anon, you saved me from making a costly mistake.

>>51533761
Stock Harman Kardon system.

But I don't listen to anything specifically while driving. My engine is loud as fuck and at medium volumes it's audible, I prefer to listen loudly and that's something I won't do while driving obviously.

>>51533842
BMW?

>>51533809
Some opinions:

I thought the open EL-8 had some interesting traits to it. Bass and midrange are very near dead flat. The high midrange starts to fall downward in response. The lower treble, there is no lower treble, there is a complete cancellation of the lower treble. The frequency response recovers moving into the extreme highs.
The effect is weird. You have this very flat EQ bass and midrange, so it doesn't seem as bass leaning as some of the other Audezes. But there is this weird lack of energy and clarity and vocal power, it sounds like it disappears into a hole. But there is the upper treble that it has, which gives it some transient snap.
Connectors are pretty annoying, a few month old demo unit had some loose cable entry into the earcups. Someone also managed to wire them in reverse polarity.

The closed Audezes, I'd rather not talk about them. I didn't like any of them so far, I don't want to remember them. Feel free to listen in person if you have the chance.

Guys I have a choice between an $85 Urbanite and $105 Momentum.
Reviews usually favor Urbanite but Momentum is generally more aesthetically pleasing. Halp.

>>51533888
M3 Sedan, nice trips.

>>51533922
I've always liked the LCD-2 Rev 2, but I find that Audeze's current state is distasteful.

>>51533957
Very nice, I've had my M pack 328i for close to a year now.

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bought the HE-400i

>>51533976
My nigga.

>>51534037
Might pick up an E46 M3 later on just as a project/weekend car

>>51533957
Brief impression of LCD-4 tells me that it is trying to be what EL-8 should have been, one that doesn't have the lower treble totally vanish into a hole. But four thousand dollars? Absolutely not.

>>51533620
XBA-100 looks pretty alright as measured. Like a more downward tilted Etymotic. More bass, more fun I guess? Most single BA usually tune more conservatively with the treble than Etys.

>>51534056
Nice, DCT is not very fun, but I had to take it because it's a company car and there's a company policy that requires automatic transmission. It's funny that the same company that I work for in the UK's policy is the same but all company cars must be manual unless the person has a disability. Fuck my shit up.

>>51534070
There's a LCD-4 now? Wow. And $4000, top kek.

Is there any IEM that's closest to a neutral signature but is not Etymotic? The XBA-100 looks pretty tempting, and I wasn't planning on spending any more on audio.

>>51533957
Current state as in chinese-tier QC?

>>51534070
I don't know how single BA is tuned as usually people in my place are either using dynamic driver or multi BA for IEM, until xba-100 came and suddenly people talking about it. Did the treble in etys sounds harsh? I find xba-100 are kinda bleeding my ears that I can't wear it more than a hour.

>>51534251
Yeah, and the fact that they're releasing just downright shitty products. I really liked the LCD-2 Rev 2, but I haven't heard anything else from them since they Fazor'd their lineup.

What kept me from buying the LCD-2 was the weight, it felt heavy while listening for a mere 15 minutes and while it didn't fatigue me, I feel like hours are a different story.

Not him obviously, but I don't think Ety's treble is harsh. It's quite smooth actually. Some of the best.

>>51534219
>LCD-4
Did I mention it weighed more than previous Audezes? At least it has a support strap.

>neutral non-Ety IEM
From anything that isn't made by some obscure new company still getting around the hurdles of manufacturing (Wavelet design)? Not sure.
Suyama seems to have killed the F111 line, there's probably some single BA out there that you can stick an resistor adapter on to balance out the highs.

>>51534251
>QC
LCD-3 QC sucks. Not as badly as when it first came out, but it was still bad for years. Has it been fixed? We have to wait and see.
>treble in Etys sound harsh
Not really, but most single BAs tend to roll off the treble some more than the HF5, which is itself slightly dark.
>I find xba-100 are kinda bleeding my ears that I can't wear it more than a hour.
Poor fit?

>>51534219
Monet17

>>51534377
>weighed more than previous Audezes

That's interesting.

>F111

Yeah, remembered reading about it in these threads. Same Knowles driver as ER-4PT?

>>51534419
Looks like something that exists for the purpose of milking lonely otaku. Are there measurements of this?

>>51534470
It's a new product and JDM. I bet it'll hard to find measurement, just like Flat4-Kaede II. The only flat4 measurement I can found is flat4-sui, the first line-up from flat4.

>>51534470
>F111
Or the very similar Sonion driver, I never saw a confirmation on that. But I think he stopped making them.

>Are there measurements of this?
Measurements of a new and restricted export CIEM? Unlikely.

>>51534491
And the sui doesn't measure too well it seems.
>>51534560
Ah, I see.

>>51534570
Well, it was the first application of tornado equalizer on IEM. That's why it didn't seems favorable results. Shame I can't get any measurement on Kuro or Kaede to see the improvement as M.R.O stopping doing measurement. I'm still curious about it.

Isn't there a semi-decent microphone for less than the cheapest on the guide?
I bought a pair of takstars hi2050 and I'm REALLY pleased with them but now I need a mic and I don't want to be spending 80% of what I paid my headphones for on it.

>>51534726
just get a $2.50 clip-on mic from dealextreme, it's good enough for voice chat

>$65 M40x
Okay now this is a solid deal
http://www.adorama.com/ATATHM40X.html?emailprice=t&hotlink=t&svfor=5m&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905&cvosrc=affiliate.62905

Is there anything better for around 350 euros than the HD 650s? (Got amp/dac, no preference between open/closed)

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Anyone used the SMSL SD793-II PCM1793?

It seems like a really good value for a dac/amp combo. I need one becasue the headphone jack in my case doesn't work properly and expensive dacs/headphone amps are snake oil.

>>51534891
It's really good but SMSL have QC issues so order it from somewhere you can easily get a replacement/refund.

>>51529404
its shit and xbox huge and is so heavy most boom arms will have problems mounting it.

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>Budget
$800
>Location
USA
>Source
USB, if you can recommend a AMP that would be great.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
5+ hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Skip
>Past headphones
Some shitty g930.

>>51535150
Wait for Massdrop to do the drop on the TH-X00 man.

>>51535150
Shure SRH1540
>closed headphones at $800
What are you doing with them anyway?
Why not open?

>>51535307
>>51535150
Okay, open are fine also.

Music mostly.

>>51535328
Hmm alright then, what preferred music do you listen to? Since you prefer bassy I may ask why. So I can get a better understanding what you need.

Since there's a sale going on, you been ripped off weeks ago.

>>51535453
I say bassy but Gorrilaz, Blur, Gnarls Barkley, Cake, Beck, and Moby. So I guess that would be more neutral then anything.

>>51535496
>Gorillaz
sup reddit

>>51535496
HE400i/HD650 + O2
>So I guess that would be more neutral then anything.
No, not really. Some of these artist smell like indie to me. A warm sounding headphone fun with do the trick, but I prefer IEMs for this kind of stuff.

>>51535560
Would* not fun with

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>>51535560
Cheers mate, I'm looking into the HD650.
Have a picture of a VZ58 as a reward.

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Glass house, metal door, lavish living to the core

/hpg/, how to wash your earpads. My velour pads are all dusty and aches now.

>>51535870
Soak in laundry detergent and warm water, lather them then rinse with warm water, put between paper towels and press the water out.
Let them air dry.

>>51535870
https://youtu.be/3E9XvTtDxq0?t=1m15s
The guy is a fucking faggot but he does it right

>>51535878
Can it applied the same way to microfiber pads?

>>51535894
>Can it applied the same way to microfiber pads?
Probably.
I don't see why not.

>Budget
Not really any issue but I feel I would be more than satisfied with something in the $150-200 range
>Location
US
>Source
USB
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Is there any reason not to make the switch to open if its for home use without really any background noises to interfere?
>Comfort level
very important
>Preferred tonal balance
im dumb and uninformed
>Preferred music
rap

Ive had some friends recommend the Sennheiser HD598s and while they seem decent enough they also seem to be more of the popular pick than anything.

>>51536032
HD598 are just overpriced HD558s with a fuck ugly color scheme.

Any decent amplifiers with dual headphone outputs?

>>51529463
Do they really have that much bass?I bought evo681 because people said they gave decent bass but there is almost nothing in them.

>>51532149
You take them off and soak them into light detergent mix with warm water.

Are there any graphs showing the FR of the Sennheiser HD 598? Please don't say "Hd 558 sounds the same without foam", I'm not poor.

>>51536573
681 Evos are insanely bassy, way more than M50X which is also considerably bassy headphone.

>>51536681
Tons. Let me find some.

>>51536681
http://personalaudio.ru/raa/otchety/naushniki/sennheiser-hd-598/
http://en.goldenears.net/8494
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD598.pdf
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=2851&scale=30
http://www.changstar.com/index.php?topic=521.0

>>51536686
Is that a joke or i am doing something wrong with them?Before evo i had a even cheaper gaming headphones and they had 1000% times better bass than them.

imma post some deals I guess as I find them.

v6 is only $50 at amazon right now, that's almost as low as it's ever been.

>>51536707
Thank you very much. Maybe for half of the price the Philips SHP 9500 are still better....

>>51529698
If you're "into" headphones you'll end up owning more than one pair, because you enjoy the variety. but don't start out that way, start out cheap and move up. that's what I did and I own 10 headphones now and 5 IEMs.

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>>51536732
No, it's not a joke. I've had and heard gaming headphones which have even more ridiculous amounts of bass than the HD 681 Evos to the point where that's literally all you can hear. More bass is not better bass, it's the opposite. You still might like it though.

Pic related is the response of HD 681 Evos and this is the M50X:

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=4313&scale=30

>>51536761
They look kinda similar in measurements where HD 558s/598s have a slight edge but it's minimal compared to the price difference. Assuming you can still cop the SHP 9500s for their old retail price.

>>51536763
>If you're "into" headphones you'll end up owning more than one pair, because you enjoy the variety
Really went the other way for me. Stuck with one pair and don't see a point in hoarding more.

>>51536789
In Italy where I live the SHP 9500 are sold for 120€, while the HD 598 are worth 150€ (Amazon.it).

what are some good iem's that are cheaper in japan than other places? im going there in a while and where i live all electronics are expensive as fuck...... senn momentum g cost almsot exactly twice as much as in the us.

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>>51536789
What's up with headphones with good bass extension and 4 kHz dips? I'm eyeing this one but I'm concerned about the dip. What sounds are the most affected?

>>51532336
lol just bend that shit brah.

>>51532832
cable got fucked and I never got it together to fix them properly, partly because they have some weird coating on the wires inside. still laying around though. also foam deteriorated completely. I have some other nice drivers from broken headphones, been thinking of doing some mod project with them.

How much noise does an open shield against compared to a closed?

how come you guys stopped shilling audio technicas ad-X00x? theyre pretty damn good

>>51536789
Even with eq and bass boosted song its still feels weak but also muddy while i had no problem with the gaming ones which is really annoying.Of course more bass is not better but there is literally 0 in them.

>>51537022
>open
Close to none along all the frequencies
>close
Depends.

If nobody can suggest any good earbuds that are neutral, medium isolation and under 200 I'm gonna have to buy another pair of SE215's. Last person who replied tried to troll me into another bad purchase.

>>51536761
shp9500 were a good deal when they were under $60. at close to $100 you might as well just pay for the overall improvement a 558 gives.

>>51537110
are they good? im thinking of getting some myself

>>51537133
They're good aside from BASS

I just want something neutral

>>51537069
as far as I know the only open audio technica that has bass is the r70x. everything else is nobass central.

>>51537169
>muh wubs
theyre fine unless you listen to dubstep
-posted from my ad700x

>>51537074
Are you sure you're not somehow limiting bass through your sound setup? Not who you were replying to, but my 681 Evos are bassy as hell. The sub bass in some poorly mastered content is unbearable without EQ. Feels like my skull is being physically abused or something.

Though sometimes having drivers that can go so low is nice.

>>51537196
below-neutral bass is unacceptable with any music.

>>51537074
try a different source because you're fucking up somewhere or maybe yours is just defective. maybe you're plugged into line out or don't have that port assigned as headphone? the 681evo is extremely bassy, I should know I own them.

>>51537198
No idea they are just plugged in my integrated sound card

I'm gonna buy a pair of HD650's

try and stop me

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>>51537460

>>51537460
They're great, but X2 are better.

Ait, faggots. Im looking for open headphones, mine are falling apart.

>Budget
100-120 dollas

>Location
Europe

>Source
Desktop

>Preferred type of headphone
full sized, open

>Comfort level
comfy

>Preferred music
Electronic music, rock, anything really

>Past headphones
koss porta pro

>>51537460
>>51537517
and the K702

>>51537460
>>51537517
>>51537541
Here we go all over again. When this thread hits the bump limit I want to see how many posts were wasted in the thready endless debate on what's the best between Fidelio X2, HD600/650, and AKG K-whatever.

>>51537541
Yes it's true: X2/K 702 >>>>>>> HD 600 >>>>>> HD 650 >>>> planar meme

>>51537558
Be careful to not cut yourself with that edginess

>>51536745
Damn, nice price, i think the lowest i've seen was 40 bucks years ago.

>>51537606
>702
what the fuck? i have those and compared to the HD600 they aren't better.

>>51537558
its like the endless gpu wars but if there were 3 sides

>>51537652
Well i guess people like you like colored sound.

>>51537652
X2 are still better than those two, then it doesn't matter

>>51537695
>>51537689
This is the stupidest shit i've heard all day.

>>51537724
Then you've just arrived in this thread

>>51537724
>sennfags cant accept neutral headphones
noice m80

>>51533040
>That's comically bad.
It was, i honestly preffered the sound of my v6 to the m-audio monitors. Not the case with the Genelec.

>>51529233
Hey /hpg/ do you know if it is a bad idea to use IEMs while having tinnitus?

>>51537757
good one! *high five*

>>51537614
yeah I got mine then. still one of my favorite headphones.

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Posting comedy gold.

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>>51538022

I have TMJ and can only wear headphones that don't put any force onto my jaw. Unfortunately, any decent quality pair is intent on crushing my head.

Am I doomed to shitty $20 headphone forever?

>>51538498
SHP9500
Philips Fidelio X2
DT880 Premiums
K7xx

All of these have a clamping force looser than your mom's aging vagina. If those aren't your thing then try IEMs.

>>51538590
All those headphones have fuckhuge earpads that will push on the jaw. However they all have soft memory foam padding, and the clamping force shouldn't be that high, and it gets distributed very well anyway.
I guess IEMs would be a safer solution. That, or on-ears.

>>51536954
Sizzling sounds, S and around that frequency. You generally perceive that as "clarity". Around 6kHz the frequencies tend to get really harsh and fatiguing but around 3-4kHz a drop in frequency response would indicate lack of clarity and kind of muffled/veiled sound. You can try it if you have at least acceptable quality headphones right now. Use an equalizer to drop down frequencies around that area.

>>51538022
honk honk

>>51538641
from experience the shp9500 didn't push on my jaw, the X2s pressed lightly but the clamp was super light and most of the pressure was distributed along the headband. On ears can get uncomfortable if the clamp is too tight. What are some on ears with light clamp?

>>51538802
>the clamp was super light and most of the pressure was distributed along the headband
I know, but if his condition is severe, even a light push can result in pain. As far as I under, the Beyerdynamic T50p shouldn't have a skullcrushing clamp, but I never tried them, so I don't know that for sure.

>>51538498
TMJ is shit, I got it from wisdom teeth removal in left side only. My condolences.

>>51538498
598 and the x2 put very little clamp on the jaw, but they do have big pads. if you want to get past the problem completely you should go for on-ears, clip-ons, and IEMs.

$50 v6 at amazon
$65 m40x at adorama
$300 he-400i at amazon

best headphones deals I have found so far. there are others but they're like $5 off.

>>51529233
Help /g/

I'm torn. Do I go for Audeze LCD-X(got it for the price of an LCD2) or add in an extra 200 euros and go for LCD3. Keep in mind that I'd have to get a proper amp for LCD3.

K240 or K501 with soundblaster z?

>>51539167
LCD-3 is somewhat shaky in quality, especially if used.
LCD-X is my pick, as long as you like the Audeze sound.

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>Budget
$100
>Location
I break mirrors with my face in the United States
>Source
Desktop, LG G4, and maybe iPod Nano 6th gen if I ever find good firmware for it
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Probably closed, this apartment gets noisy as fuck sometimes.
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible please.
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know how those charts you guys always post here actually translate into sound but my guess is neutral to slightly warm.
>Preferred music
Changes often but recently I've been getting into awful weeaboo music.
>Past headphones
Koss PortaPros, Monoprice 8323s. Both sounded ok but I'd like something with better build quality this time so maybe it lasts more than 6 months.

Sale time boys, from cheapest to most expensive.


Monoprice 8323 - 17.99
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8323

Sony MDRV6 - 49.99
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ

Audio Technica ATH-M40X - 64.99
http://www.adorama.com/ATATHM40X.html?emailprice=t&hotlink=t&svfor=5m&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905&cvosrc=affiliate.62905

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 ohm -149.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016MNAAI?pldnSite=1

V-MODA M100 - 149.99
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/V-MODA-Crossfade-M-100-Headphones-Phantom-Chrome/productID.323674600

HIFIMAN HE-400i - 299.99
http://store.hifiman.com/index.php/headphones/he-400i.html

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>>51536681
>snoozeheiser

http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-598/reviews/12176
>Too much seperation, distance, and empty areas. No "immersion".

http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-598/reviews/10106
> Makes your music sound dull and boring.

http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-598/reviews/9442
>Makes all my music sound like it's been recorded in the same venue, on the same day.
>Deep and full, politely sweet but never exciting

>>51539282
Takstar Pro 80 with HM5 pads

>>51539293
>live in Canada
>can never take advantage of the really good deals like the HE-400i

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>>51538022

>Budget
Around $100
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Don't care
>Preferred type of headphone
Maybe Sennheiser? I don't know much about headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Enough to wear them at hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Jazz, big band, acapella
>Past headphones
Beats, just heard theres better.

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How long has it been since you last truly enjoyed the music itself, /hpg/?

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Got these in the mail yesterday. I'm sure someone is probably triggered, but they're the best sounding headphones I've owned yet.

>>51539367
I'll be on the look out for more Canadian deals but here are a few.

HIFIMAN HE-400i - 399.00 CAD
http://www.headphonebar.com/hifiman-he400i/

VSONIC GR07 - 99.95 CAD
http://www.headphonebar.com/vsonic-gr07-classic/

Koss ESP-950 - 599.99 CAD
http://www.amazon.ca/Koss-160416-ESP-950-Electrostatic-Stereophone/dp/B000056ULH/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_14?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Q12343EZ43HT092PVBK

>>51539430
oh god lol.

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>>51538022
>>51539390

>>51539540
ABSOLUTE MAD MAN

>>51539525
XD memes.

>>51539633
no doubt.

Most exageratory soundstage for under $300?

>>51537538
anyone, friends?

>>51539684
X2

>>51539402
Nvx xpt100

>>51539390
new to graphs. Can explain this to me?

Going to buy Fiio E18 for Beyer Custom Studio. Worth it?

>>51539714
The green line is neutral while the red/blue is the headphone's frequency response. The graph shows excessive treble treble, which is painful for your ears.

>>51539793
>+6dB bass
>neutral

Goldenears.net is full of shit.

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Bravo Audio V2 + DT770 250 ohm
Worth?
Tube amp is probably just hipster so rek me for it if it is. What else would be good? I think I've decided on the DT 770s for sure though.

>>51539793
thanks

>>51533796
Tell me the story

>>51540029
O2

>>51540029
>tube amp
enjoy your sound coloration

>>51540029
just get an o2
morons i swear to god

>>51539745
>Beyer Custom Studio
How are they?

>>51540029
The bravo audio V2 is not a true tube amp. There is not enough voltage going into the tube.

>>51539488
Thanks, appreciated

>>51537870
Bump

>>51537870
It isn't. It may be easier to jack p the playback level with an IEM, but the sound isn't going to present any inherent risks besides the frequency response.

My he-400i's came in last night from the sale, no complaints.

>>51540531
>besides the frequency response
What do you mean? Is there a particular set of frequency responses that's better to avoid? What do you suggest?

>>51532118
Not the amazon store that has a discount. From a different seller on amazon.

The Beyer DT770s 80ohm go on sale on Amazon tomorrow for what I would assume will be about £80. Worth picking up?

>>51539344
Oh well, I've already reached my endgame with Fidelio X2, then I don't care much about this

>>51539410
3 hours ago when I played a random track on my Fidelio X2

>>51540612
Avoid emphasis around frequency range of your tinnitus, assuming hearing damage induced tinnitus (its usual cause).

>>51539293
I'd love to get a M100 and a HD400i, but fucking customs would want my carr and soul as a fee...

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I got these a month ago they sound really good. Very accurate.

>>51540876
Oh god you fell for the meme!

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are these any good? they're on sale right now on amazon.

>>51540892
I AM a certified meme lover so....

>>51540876
How do they sound in terms of instruments' separation, soundstage and bass quality? On headfi they say that they're the most detailed headphones in the 150-300$ price range

>>51540920
> list price 499$
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>>51540815
I see. Thank you very much anon.

>>51540949
There's no excessive punch to the bass, just what would be in the music normally. Instrument separation is a little subjective track to track depending on the artists' mixdown. The soundstage is pretty small in the sense that it feels like you're right in the room with the artists.

And they feel AMAZING I listen to them for three hours at a time with no head fatigue.

>>51541093
> The soundstage is pretty small in the sense that it feels like you're right in the room with the artists.
Huh? This sounds really strange to me, according to most people AKG K7XX/702 have a huge soundstage...

>Budget
£100 - £120
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy but im not to concerned
>Preferred music
Anime shit, Electronic, metal.
>Past headphones
ATH M50

are re-400 balanced or neutral

Well I guess I'm gonna grab another pair of SE215's. There are no good suggestions in the OP for IEM's around 100-200. It's just easier to go with what you know I suppose.

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Is there an easy way to remove the mesh head band from the Philips Fidelio X2

I have ringworm on my scalp and my doctor said to wash anything I put on my head as to not re-infect myself ;_;

>>51541707
>There are no good suggestions in the OP for IEM's around 100-200.
Etymotic HF5: better isolation, better build quality, better response (more neutral), better CSD.

>>51541748
I swear that looked like another troll suggestion. After getting trolled with the SE215's bass I thought never again. Now I think I've become used to the bass.

>>51541742
No. It's riveted, and the rivets are made of plastic.if

>>51541765
>After getting trolled with the SE215's bass I thought never again.
What happened?
>Now I think I've become used to the bass.
The HF5 have very little amount of bass in terms of presence, so you might dislike them because they're not as boomy as the SE215.

>>51541833
The HF5's look like ear butt plugs and are "Highly recommended"

If they're actually good I'll give them a shot

>order piston 3's
>they finally get here
>try them out
>they sound pretty decent
>look forward to actually using them
>go to bed
>wake up
>the left driver no longer works
wat

Is an AMP needed for HD600/HD650? I'm thinking about buying them if they're cheap on black friday.

>>51541894
They're specifically designed to be the most isolating universal fit IEMs, hence the shape.

>if they're actually good
It's impossible to tell until you try them: some say they're no-bass hearing-aid drivers sold as high fidelity earphones, others say they're the most accurate IEMs on the market in the sub-200$ price range. Anons here can start a civil war on this subject.

Looking for advice. I've had AKG K26P headphones, which were later renamed K414P, for a VERY long time. 10 years by now. I like that they have extremely high bass and a bit tighter than they should be (can get uncomfortable over a long time, but it also means they provide a shit ton of sound isolation, especially for such a cheap headphone).

Unfortunately, the plastic parts on them wear out over time. I had 3-4 of these and kept using them as spare parts for each other, but my last one is starting to get loose as well.

I've found that they re-released it again as the K404. However this was a long time ago, and now these aren't available anymore either.

Does anyone know if these phones are still available, perhaps under a different name, or a different head band? The K430 looks pretty similar, and I can find it on amazon for a great price, but I don't know if they sound the same. I'm really used to how bass heavy these phones are.

Does anyone know how the K430 sound?

The Koss Portapro would be a great replacement, but they are not as tight as I like them to be, and do not give that little sound isolation that makes the K414P so awesome. I have one, and they sound pretty much the same indoors, but they sound much worse outdoors.

>>51541769
dang

>>51542137
You'll most likely to need to hand wash it very carefully and let it dry for a few days.

>>51541913
>Is an amp needed for HD600/HD650
Maybe. Depends on how loudly you listen and what you already have.

AKG K240 MKII are on sale for 89 pounds, are they any good? Im looking for some open headphones around 100 euros

>>51542205
I'm going to use it with my desktop PC and my windows volume is around 50% most of the time. I usually don't have a very high volume

>>51542352
just get a X2 or MA900 and stop caring about amps

>>51537517
X2 is inferior if you're judging by sound quality.

>>51542352
Windows volume doesn't mean much, but is this already with a headphone? If so, what is it?

>>51542410
I have ATH M50, they're getting old and I want top upgrade.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ/ref=you're_a_faggot

not a bad deal desu senpai

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X2 shills seriously need to get the fuck out, it's getting ridiculous.
Stop recommending your shitty grado clones and move on with your poor purchase.

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>>51542451
gtfo sennheiser shill

Thinking of buying a senns for $20 thats on discount.
Sennheiser HD 201 Professional DJ

is it literally shit or decent?

>>51542451
breh, why do you even post here if you're a speaker patrician?

Do you just like to stir up the hearts of the headphone poorfags?

>>51542480
Anything is shit on that price range

>>51542467
I hate all senns, wtf are you on about

>>51542485
Because I use both headphones and speakers.

>>51542494
sony's are good though right?

I've had earphones and they've stayed intact for years. Dunno about headsets though.

>>51542328
Apparently they are quite detailed and generally well regarded but slightly lacking in bass, not that I have first hand experience was just interested in them myself.

Where are they on sale?

>>51542539
Yes MDR7506 and MA900 especially

>>51542557
>>51542557
>>51542557
>>51542557
>>51542557

New thread.

>>51542485
because, as a furfag, he feels a desperate need to fit in.

>>51542480
see
>>51542434

So, just reading over the pastebins. So please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but when selecting a sound profile, would it not be best to select neutral and use secondary amplification later on if you wanted a specific sound profile? Rather than buying something that has a distorted one from the get go?

>>51542578
If I wanted to fit in I'd own sennheisers, the generic pleb trash of the audiophile world.

>>51542609
Amplification does not change sound signature, it only makes things louder.

A software equalizer can change it.

Not everyone prefers a neutral sound signature.

>>51542646
>hey guise I'm le edgy beyer hipster

Lmao nobody cares faggot

>>51542749
Ah okay thanks anon.

>>51541983
>Does anyone know how the K430 sound?
Not very bass heavy according to measurements but measurements may not show the bass accurately.

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>>51541975
I just put in the order for the HF5's. Should be here tomorrow. Hope they're good.

>>51543010
Flat as your chest.

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is there any people here that would download a lyn nude mod and has a bitcoin wallet?

>>51542556
amazon