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Any tips on improving while not going crazy?

Corsair 250D mini ITX & MG279Q Asus.

Asus Z170I Intel Z170 LGA 1151 mini-ITX mobo.
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Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4 2666 MHz CL15 2x8GB.
Intel Core i5-6600K 3,5 GHz LGA1151
EVGA GTX980Ti Hybrid
Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250
Corsair AX760i
Corsair Cooling Hydro H80i GT
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Planning on buying a computer once some stuff goes on sale, what do you guys think of this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cg9sTW
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Reposting from previous thread:

>http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VRP2P6

This is my final list of parts before black friday comes.
Can you guys be as critical as possible?

I decided on getting GTX 970 because it's more quiet and energy efficient than the AMD counterpart, although since I'll be getting such a spacious case with a lot of fans included, would it be more logical to get an AMD GPU? Most games which come out nowadays are optimised for NVIDIA, but I've read that the R9 290X outperforms the GTX 970. I still want no >drivers issues when I play games, though. I'll be playing vidya on Win 10 so I'll have access to DX12.

The CPU is from 2012, however if I find a better CPU on sale for a similar price as the FX-8320 during the sales, I'll probably get it instead.

ty
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LGKyhM

got a $300 holiday bonus check what upgrades should I do. Was thinking bout going to an i5 and a 550 power supply

thoughts?
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>>51497116
I am just saying that your goddamn case costs 13% of your build.
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>>51497116

Get the 8320e instead - it uses significantly less voltage which is major for overclocking.


The 390 generally outperforms the 970 these days.
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>>51497116
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Mf67Vn
repostin my suggestion
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>>51497284
>50 dollar pound mobo
>100 pound case
>in a budget PC

jesus christ why
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>>51497168
You're right. I've changed the case to the Corsair 300R Windowed.

I actually saw it on sale some time ago but thought the 8320E was just a budget version of the 8320.

>>51497284
Do I really need a skylake? I mean, an AMD wouldn't bottleneck my performance, and leaves me with the ability to overclock it later on.
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>>51497086
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cg9sTW
It looks ok, 850 evo is cheaper and better but I'm assuming you have that 840. I'd probably get an sli capable board just because.
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>>51497045
>Seasonic SS Platinum series not in tier 0
>Seasonic SS Platinum series not even there at all
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>>51497377
I actually don't have any parts right now, I'm on a craptop right now and I've been saving up. I'll switch to the 850 and see if I can find a different mobo.
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>>51497370
I wouldn't say need, Its better certainly. 8320 is about the lowest end cpu I'd consider acceptable to use in a build at that price range.
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Updated this 2 months ago or so, haven't been keeping up with PC shit recently. But I finally have spare cash ($525 atm, $200 coming within a week) and want to finish my build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/89hRcf

Anything I could do better on? Don't want a different case but anything else is open to changes. Could go up another $100 or so if it'd made a big difference. Basically just want something I can play moderately intensive stuff on, already have the gpu but could upgrade in another few months so I want to leave that as an option.
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>>51497370

> 8320E was just a budget version of the 8320.


The two e chips AMD make - 8320e and 8370e - are cream of the fucking crop. They have low base clocks (but turbo high) on a 95w TDP (remember vishera is notoriously hungry). An 8320e will come out of the box wanting only 1.0-1.1v whereas a 8320 will want 1.3v.

My own 8320e does 4.7ghz on a mere 1.428v under torture loads - to get those non e chips to those clocks you are talking close to 1.5v (which is what the 9590 wants at stock).
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>>51497444
If you don't have any parts than get a 3tb hitachi deskstar instead of 2 drives. Get two 8 sticks of ddr4 3k, get a well recommended case like a nzxt 450, enthoo, air 540 or 760t.
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>>51497624
whats the actual difference of 2166-2666mhz ram and 3000mhz ram for avg user
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>>51497529
Just go Skylake and get the new platform for a little more
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tq67Vn
6600k is $240 at frys.com right now.
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>>51497692

None.
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How can I do better without getting sticker shock, /g/?

Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case
Cooler Master VSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard
AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (using stock fan & gfx)
Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)

Build is $477 before any rebates. I haven't stolen Windows in ages but that's a potential $90 less.

My intent is to do light 4k video editing (videos from my G4) and playing GTA V at low settings is fine.
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>>51497692
Nothing is you have a decent processor. Higher speeds on ddr4 make up for the higher cas.
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>>51497624
Alright, I've updated it a bit, how's this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mxr2P6
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Hey guys noob here. I made this build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hNsz4D

I'm really only looking to do MATLAB and maybe emulate some games. Is this overboard?
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>>51497844
>i5
>+960
I hope your trolling softly
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>>51497893
no I'm not please tell me what's wrong
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looks like my /build/ thread idea is trending, you're welcome kids, keep imitating and you might become as great as me one day
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>>51497917
thought it was a good idea. got any recommendations for me>>51497045
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>>51497844
Practically any comp can handle that.
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>>51497900
if your just going to be emulating older games you probably don't need anything higher than a 550. Not sure what companies still make them but a 960 is for like new triple A games on high/very high settings. This would also knock a good $100 off your build
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>>51497996
>960 is for new triple A games on high.

$0.1 has been deposited into your account.
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>>51497928
<3 love you too bae, and let me see, you want me to check the guide or recommend you a build?
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>>51497116
I have updated my build.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/dK8WkL

I decided to go for the R9 390, and stick with the 8320 because its default clock speeds are better. Also, it's future-proof with DX12 coming out soon.

Please give me feedback
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>>51498030
Looks pretty solid
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>>51498028
if you have any recs for the build

want a strong gaming pc with some overclock possiblity with some longetivity if possible (thats why the hybrid ti)
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>>51497928
It looks well researched. H80 isn't that great, a cryorig h7 will fit that case and work as well for half the price.
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>>51498100
It's made by /build/ actually. I did jack all research except ask you guys questions.

H80 was recommended (and used by friend), he changed to H100i GT after he got a bigger case.

I'll look into Cryorig then
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>>51498117
As he said the cryorig is good, and skylake is a bit of a waste of cash, but if you can't find a non-skylake overclockable i5 it's alright I guess, the rest is ebin, looks like you made your homework *daps anon*
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>>51498149
>ebin
>*dabs anon*
oh fugety fugg how did u know im finn :DDD
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>>51497996
maybe I'll be emulating PS2 but probably not. What about Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card
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>>51498167
this is better suited for what your talking about
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We should compile a list where there's the brand and general recommendation if they are good on cheaper stuff, or medium range etc.

Sort of like Logical Increments but they dont really tell you if the brand is BAD or 'worse' in different price category.
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Noob here, I'm having trouble figuring out why the R9 390 (260-270) is cheaper than the 980 Ti (550-570 ), it's got 2GB more VRAM and at almost half the price (Pound Sterling). Would like to know as I'm at a crossroads for which card to be getting.
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>>51498020
It's decent for AAA.
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>>51498165
i gods magic bowers i bromise im not dracking u :-DDDDDDD
t. non-nsa non-jewish regular person
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>>51497045
There's a watercooled CPU and with the Hybrid 980Ti a watercooled GPU.

Should I worry of the temperature of motherboard? Maybe a case fan or 2?
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>>51498244

Have a collection of charts that may prove or disprove your claim.
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>>51498281
You can check your temps with speedfan, but typically so long as you have an adequate amount of airflow (as in, 2 should be more than enough) you should be fine.
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>>51498289
>60fps on Watchdogs, Hardline, GTA5
It fares well, not amazing. There are games that can definitely take it to its knees, as you can tell from it getting 30fps in Crysis and Witcher 3. I'm not at all surprised about that, but if you dial back a few certain settings to High instead of Very High it fares nicely.

VRAM is an issue though, for $50 more the 960 4GB is worth it.
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>>51498204
which one is that
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>>51498378
01G-P4-3743-KR
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>>51498234
Fury > 390X > 390 > 385 > 380X > 380...
980Ti > 980 > 970 > 960...

You're comparing two GPUs in two different price brackets.

Fury is mated against 980Ti, 390X is against 980, etc.
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>>51498374

Bearing in mind those benchmarks are done with crazy high end i7's (and often overclocked) so for the typical 960 user numbers will be lower.
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>>51498281
mini250d has got a 1 120mm and 1 140mm fan with it now that i view it but dont know if i can stuff the stuff there with the 120mm fan
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>>51498470
I am shamed. I apologise for the obvious idiocy, But even so, as ill versed as I am, I see 2 GB more VRAM on a cheaper, weaker card and I'm just clearly dumbfounded.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MqRjTW

Did I did good?

I know Skylake is pretty much a placebo, but the equivalent Haswell build is only $70 less, so I figured I might as well go with a z170 MOBO and have all the newest sockets for futureproofing and shit.
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is it so wrong to just want the following?

mini ITX in smallest possible case
truly silent operation
core i7 style performance
quad SLI
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>>51498605
why quad sli instead of 4x-fire
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>>51498605
lmao and I want a gold ferrari
>>51498374
I got about 60fps on GTA5 at similar settings on a 4690k.
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>>51498619
either is fine really. i'd be turning an entire wall in my apartment into a heatsink anyway to realistically cool it
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Should I grab a 4gb 380 for 200 USD?
I want to hold out for black Friday, but there's no guarantee that Amazon will have it on sale. I'm limited to Amazon btw.
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OP do you know how many threads we have on building a computer every day? There are dozens. And every time it's the same thing, "/g/, new to computer, do everything for me and I buy" or the classic "I want to play videogames so build me a computer". Well OP, as a seasoned /g/-browser, I'd like to tell you to go fuck yourself. Have you ever heard of the Falcon Guide? Well then go google it, you lazy worthless sack of shit. And as I sit here eating my Subway™ Tuscan Chicken Melt Sub™ I come to wonder, why is there such a constant influx of idiot aspies? One can only wonder, but I'll assume you are either from /v/ or /b/. I would also like to take a minute to tell you to go back to your cesspool of shit and to kindly not come back to /g/ unless you have something worthwhile to contribute. I'm not trying to be offensive to you, it's just that I hate lazy sperglords like you. You do know that the internet is a very large resource with a wealth of information right? Well did it ever come across your mind that somehow, _somewhere_, there might be a place that is actually dedicated to helping people with their first build, that isn't /g/? Of course it wouldn't, because you're a thoughtless shitstain. Your specs are shit, your build is shit, and you're shit. But what else is to be expected of a cock-mongling niglet of such status as yourself? As I stated before, go back to whatever cesspool of shit you came from, and please, never return here again.
-/g/
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>>51499316
Thanks slam-master Jordan. Your copypasta is appreciated.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/czvBCJ

rate my build you kek fucks
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>>51499494
Get a cheaper SSD. Otherwise it looks fine to me.
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Do Black Friday sales on Newegg (and others) remain the same all week or can they get better deals on specific days? I want to build a brand new computer but I'm not sure if I should just get everything now, wait until Friday to do it, or wait for possibly better deals on individual parts.
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>>51499572
I'm scared Samsung SSD's are memes and they're going to start dying on me in just 2, 3 years
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>>51499686
Then get something that isn't Samsung for cheaper? Seriously dude, that SSD is way too expensive. You could buy 2 Samsung ones and RAID them for that price.
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>>51497728
Alright, so the new platform isn't just a meme? Will probably go with that then, better future upgrade options and all.

Any chance that a part in http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tq67Vn would go on sale for BF/CM? Or something better would go down to about the same price as a part?
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So I'm planning build a living room computer for my parents. I basically need a decent browsing and video playback machine with a lot of space for my dad's music and mom's movies and shows. This is looking a bit into the future so I'm not interested in any Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I need recommendations for:

-Cheap but half decent CPU and mobo: I'm thinking an A6-7400K since Microcenter does mobo bundles with those, but I'd like y'all's input

-Good 2TB HDD and 120GB SSD

-Affordable and kinda quiet mATX case.

I'm trying to keep the budget under $350. Here's a half-assed rough build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M7jPCJ
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hw2g99
Alright /g/ any suggestions where i can improve/optimize my build money isn't an issue
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>>51499494
The 212 Evo is going to block some of your RAM slots. Buy Low-Profile RAM instead.
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>>51500299
if money isn't an issue, I see no problem with this build, aside from maybe the water cooling, about which I know nothing
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>>51497167
Good idea. I agree
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Please rate my build. I've spent hour poring over this thing and I think I've got a pretty sweet rig going.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6hqYsY
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>>51501789
Don't get a USB WiFi adapter, they kinda suck. Go for a different solution.
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>>51501978
Like a regular wifi card? But those all suck too and that one has decent speeds. Am I wrong? Any particular brand/card you'd recommend?
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had a *really* bad experience with newegg returns, even though the thing was doa, so I want to stay as far away as possible with my new build. amazon is much better about returns in general, are they good for ordering PC stuff? if amazon doesn't have a part, other good retailers?
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>>51502004
Not that I can recommend. I usually have my stuff hardwired, wifi is left for phones and stuff of that sort.
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>>51502017
I found that even after the few price match items on my list, I still saved about $50 on Amazon compared to newegg. But I might also have some hidden benefit cause I use my mom's Prime account.
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>>51502030
I have prime as well so that's another big factor, but it seems like most things are $10-20 more on amazon. Probably worth the extra to just not have to worry about spending another 7 hours testing a keyboard only to figure out it's fucked and you have to pay half the original price to return it.
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>>51499923
>Alright, so the new platform isn't just a meme?

mfw you're fucking serious.
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Want to build a low power server purely as a iscsi target.

I have a Celeron g1610t lying around too so just wanted to buy a cheap mobo with 6+ sata ports and get some HBAs for additional ports.

I don't think it's worth going the ecc route, would pretty much double the price although the g1610t supports ecc memory.

The drives will be manually mirrored uasing freefilesync so no raid needed.
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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/hXGvrH

Building a new gayming pc, feel like im fucking something up

GPU is not there on purpose, going to use my 270x for a while til i have more money to upgrade it

Any tweaks to make/did i miss anything else?
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What PSU for around 100€ do you recommend for this build?

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz
MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150
Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB DDR3-1866
SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon R9 390
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>>51504665

See any 750w (you are overclocking right?) from the tier 1 chart in OP.
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>>51498289
>280X being this superior to the 380

Fucking AMD
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>>51504633
>these prices

Christ, they really gouge you AUSbros.

The build is solid; all of your parts are good. A word of warning, the 212 Evo is a fat motherfucker and it will obscure some of your RAM slots, check to make sure your RAM is short enough to fit.
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Trying this, I already have a 600W PSU and some drives.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zk3qt6
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Struggling with PSU choice here, going for a meaty rig with potential for overclocking and additions like another card etc. I'm stuck at picking either the EVGA SuperNOVA P2 or G2 model, the P2 being the 1200W and the G2 being 1300W. Buying in squidlies so it'll be roughly £160 for the G2 and £190 for the P2, although the G2 has 100W more power. Is the most obvious choice the G2 for power and price or am I missing something that would make the P2 a better choice? Thankenyou.
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>>51502742
I said I haven't been following PC shit for the last few months, that was the last I'd heard about it but it looks like the price has finally come down to a reasonable amount.
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/8t2qt6

the PSU is because i plan to SLI another 980Ti
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Will this build need a fan?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xPfYsY
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>>51506160
please rate me, any feedback appreciated
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>>51506175

Pirate windows, get a better gpu, live happily ever after.

>>51506240

You've spend a thousand bongs on getting the latest and greatest - what is there to say?
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>>51506250
>You've spend a thousand bongs on getting the latest and greatest - what is there to say?

thanks, i just wanted to know what somebody else thought
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>>51506291

At worst you'll want a couple case fans to maintain airflow, but thats it really.
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>>51506250
more like two thousand bongs if part picker included the price of 2x 980Ti and the price of that PSU

>>51506160
You should be fine running most modern games at 90+ FPS on 1440p
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>>51506250
If I'm not looking to game should I get a better gpu?
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>>51506321

In that case, no. Hell you you are doing zero gaming depending on exactly what you are doing you could ditch the gpu entirely and porbably go for an i3 instead of i5.
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>>51506344
would suffice for maybe PS/N64 emulation at a high framerate?
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>>51506381

At the same clocks there won't be much difference between an i3 and i5 (there will be a small one due to cache differences). I'm not upto date with my ps1/N64 emulators but iirc they basically don't give a fuck about gpu at all so the integrated graphics will most likely get the job done (do your own research though).
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>>51506309
Could you rec any case fans? or would any that fit do the job fine?
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I'm running this build now.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tmVtZL
I want to upgrade.
I need more than 8gb of ram and my SSD storage is getting full.
Should I upgrade to Skylake, get a new mobo and 16GB ddr4 ram + an extra M.2 SSD or
should I just buy 8 more gigs of ddr3 and a SATA SSD and wait to upgrade my CPU for Skylake-E?
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I need help building a mini pc to travel with. What parts should I get? My ideal limit is $500
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Should I wait to order from newegg until black friday? My build is already $560 off from $650 but I'm not sure whether they'll go out of stock or if it'll be any better anyways.
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>>51506499

Since you aren't trying to cool a nuclear reactor any semi decent case fan will do. I hear good things about Arctic's range of fans.
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what cpu do I need to emulate 360 and PS3
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>>51506641
Newegg just ran out of stock on my ram, price jumped from 40$ to $100 because of a different supplier

I don't think imma order them on black Friday
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>>51506559
Just get a laptop.

>traveling

>monitor
>mouse
>keyboard
>case full of components that aren't really made for traveling
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>>51497045
price difference to this only 200e
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>>51506850
FUGG

same build as in OP

but i7 4790k and Maximus 8 mini itx instead

only raised price by 200e
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>>51506865
2200e (OP) vs 2400ee >>51506850


bad price increase?
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>>51506767
thanks dude
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Z170 P Asus mobo, skylake i5 6600k, nvidia gtx 970, 16 gigs DDR 4 RAM, water cooled with h100i GTX, 3 TB processor, 850 W power supply. Thoughts? Should I upgrade my mobo to a ROG maximus hero vIII?
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>>51507039
970? aint that completee shit GPU in its price range
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>>51507039
Overkill psu I run Titan X sli with 760i.


maximus is overkill
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Do I really need a cooler or is the stock one that comes with the CPU enough if I'm not gonna overclock the CPU and won't do much CPU-intensive stuff?
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>>5150703>>51507077
I suppose it is over kill.
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>>51507196
pdepends what the stock cooler is
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>>51507061
Idk because I OC'D it to 4.0 ghz and it runs everything beautifully. And it's a strix edition nvidia gtx 970
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MZJCTW
Should I stick with Haswell or go with Skylake?
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>>51507266
skylake desu if u can afford it
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How is the Sandisk Ultra 2 480GB?
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>>51506028

By meaty rig I'm going to assume Titan X? Seriously though, anything else I'd say stick with an 800-850, but that's me being budget friendly.
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>>51507724
Sorry should have elaborated, I'll be building a solo 980 Ti rig for the time being, considering SLI or other card choices for the future. I've got a sizeable budget so I'm not concerned with being cheap but not crazy at the same time.
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I5-4460 with a B85M-D3H or Z97X-UD3H?
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>>51507766
u dont need 1k supply for sli
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eat
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Realistically will i see CPUs and GPUs on sale black friday or is it just going to be RAM and SSDs?
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>>51509272
15% is the max you will see.
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newegg is selling out buy now
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made a new thread for this but I guess i should just post it here

how is this build? not a gamer btw. going to use it for music production
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>Its called black friday
>offers last one week

Why isn't it called black week instead?
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>>51509688
You don't need a 620w PSU but its nice to have.
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>>51508287
I know no one is here to answer anyone's questions, but I'm really stuck here. What DO I get? I want enough power for OC and additions, I also want something that will protect my parts in the long run.
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>>51509688
Also get the Zotac 750Ti its $15 cheaper and don't get ASrock motherboards.
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>>51509824
which one should i get then?
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>>51509939
EVGA 500w, a 430w PSU would do but you wont have space for upgrades later on, your build is 210w+-10%.
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>>51510123
thanks man
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>>51509842
860i is enough for you
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>>51510278
You're a diamond.
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>>51510555
i run titan x sli and i7 6600k both OC and i use 760i

work s like charm
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>>51509688
Music production.. not sure that CPU is good enough depending how serious you are with it.
lol at free intel beanie
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>>51509688
>750Ti
if you ain't gonna get high end nvidia don't get nvidia.

desu.

You want faster processor for production if you are serious, i5.

and get better storage, i mean no reason to be cheap when you are talking about archive drive, get WD RED or some shit?
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the mobo I'm getting (Asus H81M plus) has UEFI Bios or some shit. If I'm gonna install Win7 from a bootable USB, is there anything special I have to do in Rufus when creating the bootable drive?
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>>51509688

If you're not a game then don't buy a dedicated graphics card. Use those 120 bucks to get a $220 CPU instead of a $100 one

Intel CPUs have integrated graphics that will be more than enough if you don't plan on gaming
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>>51509794
That's in February
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>>51509794
black lives matter every day of the year kid, why does it have to be just one day or one week to you? sickening.
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Am I good to go?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r8KJK8
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Anyone have the Hard Drive infograph on which drives are better for what?
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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/9tpjTW

I'll probably pick a different mobo and ram, those are just placeholders. The real issue is deciding on the GPU/monitor, I have a secondary build in mind that's exactly the same only it uses a 980ti/Acer XB270HU instead.
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>>51511490

ssd is good for running windows and programs
hdd is good for storing tons of shit

there you go
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I have a 2560x1440 60hz screen.
These are my computer specs, the budget is 800 euros.

The motherboard is complete shit and needs to be swapped for modern processors I guess and for DDR4.

Then I need a new processor along with motherboard, RAM and GPU.

How do I minmax this for gaymen with my budget? Definitely not nVidia's GPUs?
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Someone please rate, planning to buy it upcoming month my first build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HTtX8d
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>>51511676
tdlr post speccy
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>>51511676
You need a whole new computer
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Anny suggestions on better or cheaper parts of similar quality?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jpBg99
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>>51511804
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXfMsY
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What is one good cheap screen?

Looking for 10ms- input and -6ms GTG, 21~24" and of course 1080p.
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>>51511987
Is AMD worth the difference in cost?
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>>51511987
>>51512028
And why no sound card?
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if motherboard supports lga1151 does it mean it supports 1150 too
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>>51512028
>>51512042
The 390 is comparable to the 970 in performance, so always go for the cheapest. The only drawback is higher power consumption but it isn't as big of a deal. If you won't overclock it go with that PSU otherwise choose the 650W model. Double VRAM should also help with high-rez texture mods. If you don't care about the looks/brand then there's a deal on a XFX one for 235$ : https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/3tzoor/gpu_xfx_r9_390_8gb_235_290_30_mir_25_visa_checkout/

The sound card is not worth those 40+ bucks as the on-board audio of the MSI mobo is good enough. Same thing about those network adapters imo.

Also you could go with a cheaper case like the NZXT S340 and an optical mouse like the Mionix Naos 7000
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>>51512132
I wanted a silent case, but the mouse doesn't matter.
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>>51512175
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr4blo

Check out this one.
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>>51511759
I like this brah
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/X4Bg99
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Noctua NH-U14S
ASRock Z97 EXTREME4
Intel Core i5-4690K
Fractal Design Define S

got 8 GB of ddr3 1600 MHz ram, decent 560W PSU, hdd/ssd and HD7790 from my current build.

planning on replacing GPU when pascal comes out.

anything i could change to get price a bit lower w/o fucking up performance/ability to OC?
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>>51511804
Why do you need an optical drive?
>>51512122
Nope
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tnx for sharing <3
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NdFJK8
Trying to build a low cost pc to play a few games...
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>>51512238
I suppose I don't, but I it is nice to have. I'll just get a usb one when I might actually need it later.
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>>51512234
You dont really need an nh-14.
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wats the difference of 2111mhz ddr 4 ram and 2666mhz ddr4 ram in gaming use?
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>>51512309
diffirence between u12s and u14s is like $4 where i live.
what else could i get, just 212 evo?
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>>51512261
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VGhDYJ

Cheaper RAM, Better GPU, PSU and Monitor. You should drop the Optical Drive imo.
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>>51512337
Very very small. Unless you're playing off of integrated graphics from your CPU.
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>>51512354
The evo is old not great anymore. Dark Rock 3 is cheaper then NH-14 and just as good. Cryorig h7 is just as good and even cheaper but not available everywhere.
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>>51512501
> Cryorig h7
do you mean this one? Cryorig H7 Universal (CR-H7A)
it's available in one shop, costs like $42 (u14s is about $70)
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>>51506559
>a mini pc to travel with
How small?

Mini-ITX? NUC? Rasberry Pi?

>>51507196
Stock coolers tend to be crap. It would be worth it to get a $20 aftermarket one.

>>51507266
Skylake.

>>51509272
Expect minor sales on last years CPU's and GPU's.

>>51511410
Video games aren't going to utilize 8 cores. Consider an i5 instead.

>>51511759
Wait until Pascal to drop that much money on a GPU. Get something cheaper to tide you over until then.

>>51512122
No.

>>51512175
>>51512219
Fractal makes good stuff.

>>51512337
555mhz
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>>51512540
yeah thats it, should be more than enough. Pretty much exactly equal to the nh-14 in oc benchmarks.
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>>51512337
We live in an unoptimized era, before it didn't used to matter but look at fallout 4 and how ram speed affects frame rate.
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Sorry for the stupid question, but how would I go about getting the most out of a Fury X and i7-6700k? Mostly looking for motherboard and ram advice. Also with the possibility of getting a second Fury X.

Money is not so much a concern.
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>>51512753

Just overclock the fuck out of them.
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How much longer are black friday sales for parts usually around for after the actual black friday? A couple of days I imagine?

I need to replace my current desktop and the past few weeks i've been super busy and haven't had the chance to start yet.

Also, GPU wise, should I be going nvidia or AMD? remember hearing a few months back AMD was getting extra support or something.
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how do I know how good of a PSU i'll need?
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>>51512977
Based on what your build needs x2, if its more than 600w load x1.5.

I.e: a build with 250w load should get a 500w PSU or a 300w build should get a 620w.
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>>51513051

x2 is retarded anon. A 100w of headroom and a quality psu is more than enough.
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>>51513051
And how will I know what my build needs?
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>>51513152
>A 100w of headroom and a quality psu is more than enough
Kek, I draw almost 300W more with a voltage overclocked 4790k and two heavily overclocked 980 Tis
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>>51513332

That is so backwards it makes my head hurt. You won't be consistently drawing 300w over as any quality psu would shut down and shit ones would explode.
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>>51497045
Whoever owns the installgentoo wiki: can we add OP's PSU guide?
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>>51513380
What's backwards about having a 1200W PSU for a system that draws almost 1100W?
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>>51513051
>you'll know how much you need based on knowing how much you'll need
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>>51513386

I read it as you were drawing more than 300w over what your psu is rated for, which is stupid. I run this off a 750w psu (superflower one I might add).
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Amazon or newegg?
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>>51513722
UK or USA? There's your answer,
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>>51513433
I once did that, hit 1350 to the wall on my 1000w silverstone.
I was fucking with a 5970 and 290x and accidently did something cpu intensive (opened paint to save a screenshot)
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>>51513387
He said which PSU get, he never asked how much his build was using.
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>>51513927
see
>>51513318
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Nvidia or AMD for GPU?
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>>51513945

Yes.
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>>51513964
what about extra bullshit like physx and gameworks and mantle and shit like that?
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>>51514092
It's bullshit so it don't matter.
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Is there a definitive best price to performance graphics card?
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>>51514166
970
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>>51514166
r9 290
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>>51514166

Yes and its neither >>51514197 >>51514205

Price vs performance tends to cap out at the 950/370 tier. Go look up tomshardware's GPU performance index - it will have plenty of info.
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>>51514166
GTX 750Ti,r7 290 or GTX 960.
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>>51514166

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32899.html
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g8fMsY
anything I should change?
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>>51514283

Will the 960 play shit like the Witcher on High? I dont care about Ultra are HBAO, 400000x MSAA, and all that other small detail shit
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>>51514275
>>51514339
So basically according to this the 260x wins, also anything past a 970/390 is a poor choice because after that the point diminishing returns kicks in the hardest. Makes sense.
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>>51514412

Basically yeah. The higher tier cards exist for those that want performance over just about everything else or are driving resolutions lesser cards simply cannot handle.

After all, if you are doing 4k gaming on a single card price vs performance is skewed massively towards the likes of 980 and fury, but those prics vs performance charts are typically done at the most common resolutions.
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Building a computer for the first time on Black Friday. Budget is $600-$700, which includes Case, Monitor, and Keyboard/Mouse. Any anon want to help? Want to use it for some gaming, League mostly.
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Any cheap(er) alternative to the SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply?

This is what I currently have:
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/pjxLGX
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>>51514483

Assuming 1080p a i'd suggest two options-

1) i3 and something like a 950/370
2) go cheaper and get an AMD apu and some fast ram

I'm not familiar with the performance quirks of LoL, so do your own research.
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>>51514358
Xeon is OVERKILL for gaming. Get an i5 or an i7.
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>>51514483
Get an A10-7870k and call it a day. A discreet graphics card higher than an R7 250X will only boost the frames beyond 60FPS at 1080p, but 60FPS for a MOBA is good enough.
An A10-7870k works best with either a 2133MHz RAM or a 2400MHz RAM, size do not matter as long as you run them in Dual Channel (at least two RAM sticks).
Avoid Dual Graphics pairing with an R7 250, since you've might as well save up for a R7 370 or higher once you have a $100 to spend.
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should i cop
2x6TB HGST Deskstar NAS 7200RPM HDD, on sale on newegg for 430$ for both
planning on reconverting an old desktop for home server, would use the drives in raid 1
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Due to complicated legal bullshit I have a fuck ton of money I need to spend.

Anyways,due to that, I don't have a budget with this, so: How will more expensive CPU's "scale" over time.

Obviously, getting like a 1000$ CPU right now isn't going to benefit me much over a 400$ one now since most things won't ever need that much power. BUt, how much longer will the 1000$ one stay not obsolete and usable over time in terms of being able to handle newer games and tasks compared to a more reasonably priced onee?

I won't have any good amount of money after this for a long time and I can't save the money, it needs to be spent, so I want to just get whatever will keep me competitive for the longest amount of time within reason. If the 1000$ one will make me be able to run games at 60fps at 1080 at the highest settings forr another 2 -3 years longer then the 400$ on can, that's worth it for me, but I need to know if it can.
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>>51514862
>how much longer will the 1000$
Probably a year longer only because it has more threads. As far as I can tell, those hex and octocore i7s have weaker single-threaded performance than their quad-core brethren if the same architecture. I think the 4960x is weaker than the 4790k per core, but the 12-threadedness makes it better for applications that use more than one thread.

I'd say that those super-high end CPUs are not worth the money over a cheaper i5 and a decent motherboard. You are going to have to upgrade regardless once your hardware becomes obsolete, so you're better off spending as little as you can for each build to minimize the impact on your finances.
An i3 + a $200 graphics card should be more than enough for people who don't use their machines to make money.
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Due that i got sick i lost some money i was going to use for my budget.

My old budget allowed me to get an I5 and a Z97 motherboard, now i cant.

What would i miss for getting something like a B85M-D3H instead a GA-Z97X-UD3H other than overclocking?
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>>51514862
And do what I do with that money - invest it.
I have just enough in my spending account that it accumulates to about $4000 after 5 years. I use that to upgrade my computer like I did this year.
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>>51514926
My old build looked like this:

GTX 950
212 EVO
I5-4460
GA-Z97X-UD3H
8GB RAM
1TB WD HDD
EVGA 500B
HAF 912

Now my new build looks like this:
IGPU
Stock HSF
I5-4460
GA-Z97X-UD3H
4GB RAM
1TB WD HDD
EVGA 430W
HAF912/Corsair 200/300.

But i barely got the money, infact i don't have it yet, should i downgrade the motherboard?

So far i have heard(also read in this thread) that you should never cheap out in your PSU and in your motherboard.
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>>51514538
>>51514771
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D6YKwP

This was a list my friend made for me, does it look good? And will I be able to keep it under 700 after a monitor? Case is placeholder.
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Hey bros should I get the 390 or the 970...convince me
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>>51514977
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D6YKwP
No, you can't really buy a monitor with that budget left. A new one, at that.
Give me a minute or two. MOBAs like LoL don't need something like a GTX 960. You can get away with cheaper for 60FPS performance.
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>>51515010
970 because it is better in every way besides the vram meme. And you wont even use 3.5GB of vram anyways so there is no issue.
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>>51515010
do you use linux?
if yes 970, if no 390
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My Nzxt PSU box says:

NZXT Hale82 (650w) no n, no nothing

I am good or decent?

I don't remember if it's modular and I don't want ot open the case
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>>51515015
Well thing is I don't mind getting something more then I need for LoL, cause I do want to play some other games like Fallout 4.
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>>51515052
I plan to dual boot Linux but I won't be doing anything graphics-intensive on it, is it still a problem?
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>>51515066
Okay then, give me a sec
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>>51515079
not really a problem more of a ease-of-use type of deal, you'll need to install drivers for x-server to run properly and nvidia is less of a hassle to configure with linux from my experience
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>>51515079

No.
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>>51515066
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fTBD99
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>>51515199
Looked good till I saw the rebates, makes the grand total $800, which is over my budget.
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How do I choose a case? I'm leaning toward the NZXT S340 for my first build because it's cheap, looks decent, and has the clearance for my Sapphire R9 390. Is that a good choice?
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How are Black Friday sales for PC components? I was thinking about getting a 380x and some sort of i5. Will I have any luck? Or should I get something else?

Also, here's my planned build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xrw3P6
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>>51514637
The 1231v3 is basically a 4770 but cheaper. I got it because I've been thinking about making videos or possibly streaming.
>>
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/YXttzy

This is the first iteration of my planned build.
I already own a 600W PSU
Criticism welcome.
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>>51515294
I'll take up this challenge anon
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F7mPZL
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I'm buying an Windows 7 tonight and I wanted to know, does the OEM versions (which seems to be all over the internet) install the full authorized licensed version, or am I going to get an error if I ever decide to update to windows 10 in the future?
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>>51515397
According to PC Parts Picker, they're the cheapest it's been in months, but that means squat.
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>>51514968
You should buy a mobo with the features you want to use. Expensive ones shit themselves as often as cheaper ones. Cheaping on a psu is relative they dont get much cheaper than $25 for which you can get a decent one anyway.
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>>51513051
retarded.

just make sure your psu can handle the peak power and you are good

ie sli titan works great with 760i, the psu doesnt care bout its load until its 100%
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>>51513945
For gaming Nvidia.
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Total budget of 800 to 900 euros.

Need a PC that can run games +30fps in 1440p.

r9 380
asus z170p
kingston fury 2x8
what processor do i get
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whats the difference???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>51518809
For 2nd hand AMD
some people are selling stuff like R9 280 for just 90€, or HD 7850 for 60€
thats how i got my HD 7850 although now i kinda wish i waited a bit
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Is there a reason why I shouldn't pair an A10-7859K with an R9 390 for gaming at 1080p? Intel is overpriced and I'd rather save the $80.
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>>51497370
>>51497534

I just moved from an overclocked fx6300 to an i5 6600k and the difference is enormous. Fuck AMD.
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Worth waiting 'til Summer for a 6600/6700? Or should I just wait for prices to go down.

When do the next set of Processors and Video Cards come out?

I know the -E ones are supposed to come out soon but fug that.
>>
Have a GTX 750 Ti now, should I wait for Pascal? Will it be able to run 4k (games)?
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>>51519034
750tI wont run 4k for shit.
a single non OC titan X manages 30-40fps in games at 4k.
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>>51518895
i5-6500
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>>51518915
nothing
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>>51519048
My question was: will Pascal be able to run 4k, and more specifically, should I splash the dosh now on a 980 Ti or wait for Pascal?I know my 750Ti isn't up to par
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>>51519098
Oh shit I'm sorry.
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>>51519083
would i see a significant upgrade on the 4gb from the 2gb? I plan on getting an i3 4170 - 3.7ghz
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>>51519117
Just get an 8320 instead of an i3. That depends on what you consider significant for the money. The difference would be less overall than the difference between the 4g 960 and the r9 380 at the same price.

>>51519098
difficult to answer, pascal wont launch with a ti card. 980 ti lightning will be difficult to beat for probably 6 months at the earliest until/if they release a 1080 ti. It still wont run 4k at 60fps.
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>>51519231
well the 2gb costs $179 on amazon and the 4gb also costs $179, although it'll ship by the end of the month. I was also considering the 8320 but I went to the i3 because I don't want to fall for the AMD meme. Could you suggest me a good AMD mATX motherboard????

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qvpjTW

im thinking the bottleneck is the processor. ..
>>
Currently building a guture-proof gaymen PC that is supposed to last for years. I don't know anything about overclocking. Having said that, it would still be pretty stupid to not buy an unlocked CPU, right? I'll either buy a i5-6600 or a i5-6600k.
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>>51519277
Amd doesn't fall behind until its compared to i7s or overclocked i5 4790/6600k. Despite the memes they are actually a boon for the budget market.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582
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>>51519324
How is AMD this good according to /g/, hell they're GPUs are spoken very highly of in here and if you are not buying 980Ti or Titan X people always recommend AMD.
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>>51519314
my i5-2500 from 2011 and 290 exceeds 30fps 1440p so that of course will. You dont need a 60 euro cooler on a locked cpu or a z170 board. That mobo is especially overpriced since you dont get m.2 gen 3, usb 3.1 or sli capability.
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Wev had a dollar fuck up there! It just bumped up to 960 euros in price, getting the cheapest version of stuff I could get within my country.

>>51519366
What motherboard from same price range would you recommend with USB 3 support?

And I could change the Noctua to Cryorig I see.
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>>51519335
AMD gpus are cheaper or more powerful at every price point. I'd say even with the 980 ti it or Fury X is a wash. The only Nvidia card I'd consider is the 970 or a used 780 ti.
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>>51519004
just upgrade now mane, next gen is only going to have a focus on the current 4k fad
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>>51519377
Cryorigs are very good. h5 and h7 both better than a u12s.

I can't tell your prices, asrock extreme 3 or 4 probably. MSI z170a krait if you want to sli sometime.
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oh boy it was so worth paying £4,000 for my rig to run most games at 60 FPS and less in 4K.

im going to burn this shit i swear.
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>>51519485
z170a MSI costs more than the Asus one.

Same with the Asrock ones.
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>>51519510
try this one MSI Gaming H170
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Changed to Cryorig CPU cooler.

Had to I mean I had to add new PSU since I got some 500W one that came with my Antec ATX case and it was recommended in Tom's HW at least to get 600+ one for R9 390.

Exceeded budget of 900e with 170e now that I added the PSU.

>>51519580
Only and only the mini-ATX versions are cheaper than the ATX mobo from Asus I have in pic related.
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>>51519588
Those prices, I'm so sorry bro.
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>>51519711
Living in a commie block ain't easy.

Here is my current and the new one.

I cut down the cost on the RAM a bit
>>
What CPU has the best price/performance ration?
>>
Do GPUs matter when playing movies

youd think they would draw the image differently and reuslt in changes?
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>>51520613

At face value they don't make a difference.
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>>51520684
Is it because it is CPU's job to open th emovie and play it back?

GPUs dont affect the colors or anything? Weird.

So for movies you want passable CPU and great monitor and whatever GPU?
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>>51520712
its because movies and movie files aren't graphically stressing, it does not matter enough, any integrated chip would get it done.
>>
For wqhd gaming http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n7vKvK
How did I do ?
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Is this a good $700 buck build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KtCJcf
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>>51520953

The 8320e should be around the same price as the 8320 - get the e chip instead (better for overclocking).
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>>51520989
The difference is huge.
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>>51521011

Good lord - in my corner of the world the 8320e is the same money as the 8320.
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>>51518809
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>>51497045
>making babby's first computer a long time ago
>all the shills say your pc will explode if you don't get one of these 3 brands of psus
>don't have enough money for a platinum rated super gaymen psu with extra LEDs
>get some apevia brand i've never seen before
>been using it for like 5 years with no problem
>>
Is Artic on the list a mispell of Arctic or not?
Pls don't make me worry about my Arctic Fusion 550RF. I mean, its OEM is Seasonic!
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>>51520905
no one ?
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where the bottleneck at?????
did i do good?
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>>51521615
oh and any suggestions on a different motherboard? i hear some mixed things about that 970m, thanks.
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>>51521589

What more is there to say? A fast cpu with a cooler capable of handling a decent overclock. A fast gpu and the GOAT case.

>>51521615

>960
>not 380

One job anon, one job.
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>>51521640
>One job anon, one job.Reply to Thread[Index] [Catalog] [Top] UpdatePost a ReplyReturn Catalog Top Refresh
is it really that much better? im already worried because i opted for the 8320, i dont want to fall for a double meme :/
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>>51521696

The 380 is the faster card.

See: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html
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>>51521722
isnt it like, loud as FUCK, and hot as FUCK?
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>>51521722
oh and do you have any suggestions on the mobo? or can i stick with that???
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>>51521787

No.

>>51521801

There aren't many mITX am3+ boards for a reason - those 8 core chips (especially when clocked up) put a lot of strain of mobo vrms.
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This isn't building strictly but for $450 is this okay buying used?
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>>51521836
i was originally going for an i3 4170 but i was suggested the 8320 instead, was that the right thing? Im not gonna overclock or even game that hard, so would opting for the 8320 make it worth having a shit board?

but i should be fine with that board + 8320 + 380 right?

my first build and im pressed on cash, and i dont want to fuck this up.

thank you.
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>>51521957

It mostly boils dowsn to this: the i3 is the safest bet - it will give performance of its price point for everything.

The 8320 will either be around as fast as the i3 or in some games be as fast as an i5.

Do your own research to determine which is best for you.
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Guys can you look at my specs? Is there a way to improve it?
Radeon r9 fury
AMD fx-8320
8gb ram
Asus m5a99x
1tb
120gb ssd
Rs600w cooler master
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>>51521997
OK I'm doing the 8320 + 380.
If my apartment burns down I'm calling the cops and telling on you.

Thanks.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZMQ7Q7

How is this looking for a build just over 550$? I'm not looking to make a beast, I just want to play some modern games, at medium quality; at ~60fps, as my old computer has become completely outdated by today's standards.

I wanted an i7 CPU, but they're just too expensive for my budget. I'll be using a SSD to store the operating system, and a 1TB HD for most game storage. All the peripherals and hard drives I have on hand.
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are either of these components even good?
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/motherboards/intelsocket1151/z170chipset/ga-z170xp-sliplussdssda-240g-g2.html

the deals seems good, mobo is like 110 everywhere else and a 240gb ssd is like 50. But is the mobo even good? are sandisk shit ssds?
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>>51522041
id get 8gb RAM and maybe a bigger SSD
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>>51522501
ignore that I didnt see the text just saw 4gb on the image
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>>51522041
>huehue in charge of screenshots
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Is logicincrements actually good?
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>>51497045
>pro tip #9
Mind posting the full set ? I could only find 2 other ones (themal paste and game settings on reddit)
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are those new intels still overpriced

should i just go for the predecessor
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>>51522543
I just spells out some common knowledge and should replace your own research into the parts you want to buy, just give you a direction.
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So ashamed of mine I can't even bring myself to put it.
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Hey all, I'm going for a 980 Ti, i7-4790K and HyperX Fury 16GB 1866MHz build. I'll be using a SuperNOVA P2 850W to power it all and the Hyper 212 Evo to cool the chip. Just four things I need to know off the bat.

1: What mobo should I be looking at, considering that everything I've picked needs to work together with the board, I'm worried about picking something that won't be compatible. Also considering that I'll be OCing and adding another 980 Ti come the future.

2: I know next to nothing about cases. I want something big enough and definitely breezy. I've heard mention of adding additional fans. Do I need to consider this?

3: Having stated my intentions to OC and SLI, is 850W going to be enough? I've looked into this and people either say it's TOO much or that they can easily go over 300W when OCing as it is.

4: Do I have to worry about the size of the Evo, I heard mention of it touching ram but as far as I know Fury sticks are shorter than Vengeance.

Anyway budget isn't a major concern for now, if you see room for improvement please holler. Thanks babes.
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>>51522807
If 760i power can power up OC'd Titan X sli + OC'd i7 (with watercooling) then anything from 760 to 860 watt power should be enough.
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>>51523560
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