/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

First for /sp/

In the picture
>added Tomahaw as an audio player
>added Zim for note taking next to libreoffice

>>51457314
MOM LOOK I POSTED IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!

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>>51457314

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What is the worst and most unstable distro and why is it Fedora?

>>51457384
Nice meem friend

>>51457384
>why is it Fedora?
Because it is a testing distro, quite openly.

>>51457405
meem? Its literally testing ground for Rad Hat commercial NON FREE shit and Fedora users are just guinea piggies

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>>51457384
What happened, you installed it, didn't get broken dependencies the first day and you started missing the "comfy feel" of apt?

Why don't people ever answer lo/g/os questions in these threads?

>>51457314
that fucking picture is terrible

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>>51457492

>>51457422
RHEL is free as in freedom

>>51457494
>no new IP
calm down there mate, we heard you the first time

>>51457560
epic hakz br0

>>51457577
https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x

>>51457577
Not him, but fyi the unique posters counter is on the bottom

>>51457515
It's objectively the best distro

>>51457592
>>51457593
1337

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>>51457548
All is lost if you truly believe that.

I understand that unstable testing versions of GIMP have access to 16 bit colour channels that i desperately need to edit some film negative scans. I'm new to linux (on xubuntu) and i can't seem to figure out how to get onto one of the newer versions of GIMP. Anyone got some basic advice for me?

fucking hell why is making a clipping mask so hard and annoying in gimp? is there any better way to do it than alpha to selection, invert, clear bullshit?
something like the photoshop way? to be able to adjust after you make the mask?

What is the best and lightweight instant messenger ? I dont know why did I even use this fucking skype...

>>51457686
https://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimp-git-build.html

>>51457701
I always hated GIMP for shit like that, everything tool like 19 steps to do, instead of 3 in photoshop, I mean sure, its nice and free and its possible to do shit with it, but its like going from LA to NY through australia, peking, paris, london, vladivostok, rio dejanero, havana, london, NY

>>51457754
pidgin, tie all your messengers into one client, and with the right plugins even skype

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>>51457314

I have been using manjaro for 3 weeks now. And it runs smoothly as charm, except one thing, I have Intel Core i5-4440 and use integrated video, so every time I watch video (vlc, mpv) I keep getting strange vertical lines that distorts picture. If I watch HD video on youtube nothing happens, but when I play video from disk I get this shit every time. I updated drivers for Haswell integrated graphics several times, but problems persist. When I tried Mint several months ago it was playing video well without any such glitches. What course of actions I should try next?

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>>51457384
>best package manager
>best installer
>most secure distro by default
>looks polished and professional
>sane packaging guidelines that even suse adopted
>packages as close to upstream as possible - no distro specific bugs
>early adopter, distro that drives innovation. Fedora will be the first distro to run Wayland by default
>redhat's funding and board of directors
>stable as fuck
>up to date packages
>best gnome experience out of the box
>despite rapid release cycle each release get's 13 months of support, more than enough to give you time to migrate
>all you have to do to migrate is type dnf system-upgrade and wait for it to finish

Stop being so salty friend

>>51457813
>manjaro

>>51457775
Link skype to it? So my messages still go over skype network ? I mean what does Pidgin provides here except abstraction level so that other software is working "under" Pidging, right? I dont understand this very much.

>>51457838

I have this notion that drivers are the same for every linux distro, because they operates in kernel level. Am I wrong?

>>51457813
try here some luck
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics

maybe try pinpointing if its not some codec, if its all video

>>51457836
lmao ,guinea pigs even speak!

>>51457813
try different drivers?

>>51457857
not exactly, messaging doesn't work like that, it's just a matter of protocols, you don't actually have to run or abstract the other messenger clients to use their protocol, if you see what I"m sayin

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>>51457887
You're buttblasted because my "le guinea pig" distro works better than your supposedly "stable and robust" platform?

>>51457878

thanks, looks promising.

>>51457905
Its just that your arguments that you listed are laughable. I am not going to tell you not to use it lol

>>51457968
How are they laughable?
Are you somehow implying apt or pacman or zypper (lmao) is better than dnf?
Or maybe fedora's packaging guidelines are retarded?
Am I wrong about it being up to date in some way?
Tell me about a better linux installer than anaconda please.

>>51457836
>install virtual box
>modprobe the driver like any other distro
>doesn't work
>fuck it
>install fedy
>select font rendering tweaks
>fonts look worse now
>oh
That about sums up my hour with fedora this morning.

>>51457968
Yet you've not refuted any of them. Try a bit harder...

>>51458023
I gave fedora a couple of tries and all I remember about it is that the software selection seemed atrocious

>>51458070
>>install virtual box
>>modprobe the driver like any other distro
>>doesn't work
There's an issue with VB's kernel modules which are unsigned (lmao oracle) and secure boot, have you looked into that?

>install fedy
>select font rendering tweaks
>fonts look worse now
>oh
If you want to use software made by indians, why don't you use Windows?
The solution to fixing fedora's font rendering are quite simple, you install the package called freetype-freeworld from RPMfusion and add "Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault" to your .Xresources

>>51458080
Well, there's not much I can say about it, the basic repositories are not big like debian's.
Have you tried RPMfusion and other community maintaned repositories?
What packages did you miss exactly?

>>51457314
you again ? but when will you learn ?
Get the fuck out of /g/ and back to reddit.
Seriously I don't get why redditors are this faggots.

>>51458227
I don't even remember what I was missing and had no clue about rpmfusion

>>51458236

shouldn't you be posting some spec shots

>>51458236
seriously man we see when someone with new IP posts
you are not it

>>51458227
The exact same build of vbox works fine on my Arch partition on the same machine. I'll try out the font stuff later though, thanks.

>>51457492
we do.
lo/g/os is the best distro that exist.

>>51457515
newfag

>>51457836
>most secure distro by default
>fedora
>not tails

fedora is the windows of the linux world. Only ubuntu can reach this level of faggotry.

>>51457560
>we heard you
>I heard you
FTFY.
You're the unique faggot forcing your meme softwares and linking to le reddit. You're just a huge faggot recommending shit.

>>51458265
>and had no clue about rpmfusion
There's probably your problem.

The problem with Fedora is it's a Redhat's subsidiary.
Redhat is an American company and has to follow American Laws, especially regarding patents and export laws which are quite retarded.
That's why Fedora doesn't ship with (as an example) many audio codecs (like mp3) or video codecs and software that supports these formats.

There's quite a big list of "forbidden items" on fedora's wiki and sadly the only way around this problem are community supported repos that come with all the software fedora can't provide.

>>51457754
there's a lot of them. I use telegram because my friends are normies, and it's pretty fast. Now is there something even better and lightweight ? probably.

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Are you really friendly? Because you guys bully a lot.

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>>51458325

>>51458267
>>51458282
first time posting in this thread faggots. are you really that stupid ?
That OP pic is shit and it's been proved few threads ago. Why do you keep posting it ? is there a reason?

>>51458325
>Tails
Nice.
How about you give me a general purpose distribution and not a tinfoil "route everything through tor hurrr" project?

>fedora is the windows of the linux world.
Windows as in backed by people with money and the "it works" factor?

>>51458406
y'know you could possibly change the situation by providing a more appropriate pic for the flt

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>>51458406
>That OP pic is shit and it's been proved few threads ago
You should have screenshot when it was proven, I would like to see an opinion getting proven wrong or right.

But hey, here are the archives, https://rbt.asia/g/ go wild and link to the proof, we can screenshot it and post it next time the picture comes up

but since it never actually was proven, you have great opportunity to do it now.
Start listing objections to the applications present, theres roughly 65 of them there in the picture.
Would be nice to have solid arguments against 51% of the them if you want to try to discredit the picture as proven wrong.

Good Luck

>>51457314
So I'm going to move to Linux (Linux mint precisely for the beginning) and I'm curious as how do you have your personal files arranged on Linux for backup.

On Win7 I have two partitions C:Windows, E:Backup, E:Backup is where I keep all of my data which I backup every week or month depending on the new data using Free File Sync.

What is the best practice on Linux, creating a /home partition (using almost the entire disk, but having a separated /root partition exc. ) and keeping all of my personal data on there (this would be E:Backup on Windows) or creating just an empty partition on Linux for backup (equivalent to E:Backup on Windows).

>>51458434
No, that wouldn't change it because the author of the picture is a complete faggot who thinks there is nothing wrong with it.
>do the legwork
we did and then it conveniently doesn't get posted.

>>51458434
For what purpose ? we said to OP what was wrong but he seems to not care. I won't loose time with that kind of people.

>>51458585
>loose time

Only thing loose here is your anus.

>>51458520
best way for desktop is to have a single ext4 partition except for UEFI systems where you have /boot

Reason being that the only benefit of separate partitions is security on server and ease of switching on desktop, but it comes with risk of wasting space or not giving enough which can seriously fuck you up. While since you are making backups anyway, you can restore your /home anytime you need

For backup you use simple rsync command to backup your /home/<username> folder to another partition/disk

http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=rsync+-avh+--delete /home/faggot /mnt/backup

http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=rsync+-avh+--delete

>>51457384
is that pic ironic? jews practically own capitalism

>>51458585
>implying it's always the same op
>loose time with that kind of people
but you're perfectly happy to "loose" time bitching about them

why is making Windows Installation Media (USB) on linux such a pain in the dick?

>>51457384
>>51458629
aaaand more ironically, the pic probably came from r/libertarianmeme which came from deviantart.net.
who, do you think, created the US version of "libertarianism"?

>>51458664
They don't want you to switch.

>>51458628
Thanks, will try it out.

>>51458618
>>51458643
>can't argue a point other than the OPs spelling
Interesting...

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in 2 minutes I could find one picture telling you what have to be fixed.
and I'm sure there's more. Chromium shouldn't be recommended as well as every proprietary software.

>>51458699
I fucked up the command

rsync -avh --delete /home/faggot /mnt/backup

http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=rsync+-avh+--delete

>>51458664
>>51458664
because you're using unetbootin which sucks ass, either lrn2dd or install imagewriter

>>51458704
>implying the spelling even registered with me and I'm not spot on about you whining about losing time doing something proactive while being perfectly willing to waste that same time bitching

>>51458704
I didn't make fun of OP's spelling. I made fun of your spelling.

>>51458733
>implying the spelling even registered with me and I'm not spot on about you whining about losing time doing something proactive while being perfectly willing to waste that same time bitching
>do the leg work

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>>51458735
>OP
>Original Poster
>Must mean first poster of the thread

>>51458728
whats wrong with vlc or virtualobox?

>>51458746
>do the leg work
once again you're fine with spending time bitching, but not with spending time doing anything proactive so fuck off

>>51458776
The chart has already been doctored moron

>>51458728
>>51458775
I'm not gonna spend more time arguing another time. When I told that we had this discussion and that those reddit faggots didn't care of what we had to say, just go to the archives, and read the discussions. I remember threads where we talked about all those stuff, bloated and deprecated software, spywares etc.

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>>51458728
Why do proprietary software trigger you so anon? Also, crossing out cult based, someone is butthurt mpv user.

LVM is pretty cool.

>>51458731
Does this also do mirroring so I don't have duplicate files on my backup?

>>51458770
Yes, that what it means.

http://www.lurkmore.com/view/Original_poster

>>51458813
>I'm the retard who made the original picture, I've been using linux for maybe a few months, please don't take away my fame

>>51458733
I use dd with loonix install media (debian / arch) but when i try to use dd with winblows ISOs my machines are unable to boot them

i've tried mbr/gpt partition tables and various formats but it just does not werk

>>51458834
>what is context
aspie detected

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>>51458835

>>51458813
fucking newfags

>>51458835
come on man, try getting outside, you are always here and its showing

>>51458878
>maybe a few months

>>51458853
You mean functional programming detected.

>>51458822
nope, but I wonder where do they use terminology of mirroring for de-duplicating

>>51458891
>programming
programmer*

>>51458891
No, I mean asperger's syndrome detected

>>51458805
and yet here you are still bitching, oh and by the way your doctored chart is also shit

>>51458822
for backups and shit what you really want is rsnapshot

>>51458929
As long as you keep posting that malware picture I, and many others, will continue to point out that it is utter shite written by someone who installed mint 2 months ago and saw some software mentioned on omgubuntu.

>>51458967
Now who's the aspie.

>>51458985
So you're samefagging as well now?

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>>51459014
You're weird one.

>>51459032
You're a cancerous linux newbie redditfag.

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>>51459053
I have been using Linux longer than I have been using your mom and I have never been on reddit, but ok.

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That's not surprising seeing as you're a closet homosexual kissless virgin.

>>51458728
why OP doesn't defend the software he recommends ?

>>51459144
he's clueless and there is no defence for his choices

if I got 8GB RAM can I run without it?

>>51460533
without swap that is

>>51460533
>>51460553
Yes.

>>51460533
>>51460553
yes, but make sure to monitor your memory usage...

I've been using antergos on my laptop for a few weeks and I just made the leap to arch on my desktop. I really like the GUI package manager frontend that Antergos uses, PacmanXG4. The update indicator in the task bar is particularly handy. I'm trying to get it on my arch install and it doesn't seem to be in the arch user repositories anymore. What's another good GUI pacman frontend with AUR support?

>>51460760

$ yaourt -Ss pacmanxg
aur/pacmanxg 4.16.3-3 (5)
    Yet another GUI for pacman and yaourt. Depends on neither GTK or Qt: only 
    X11

?

>>51460823
Antergos uses pamac.
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/repo.cinnarch.com/antergos/x86_64/pamac-2.4.3-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

I just installed Ubuntu, everything was fine. Then I restarted it and its taking ages to start again... Assuming it will. It's been at the dots screen for minutes.

What do? It also said ACPI PCC error. This is infuriating.

Hello i have a problem with me linux after the grub menu its hangs on the loading screen and its says loading please wait
/dev/sda1 : something
/dev/sda1 : 489489414/6548947897 files ,
565489745 / 48154891566 blocks and its stacks there but if a forced the restart with the button of me laptop after 2-3 times its start normal

I know I shouldn't, but is it possible to use Kali as an everyday OS?

>>51461094
Course it's possible, it's stupid and pointless though.

>>51460823
I'm getting this everytime I try to build the package through yaourt or manually:

==> Making package: pacmanxg 4.16.3-3 (Sat Nov 21 19:51:54 EST 2015)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Installing missing dependencies...
error: target not found: ssx
error: target not found: lib32-libx11
error: target not found: lib32-libxrender
error: target not found: lib32-gcc-libs
==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies.

>>51461137
Download pamac from Antergos repo and install the package.

>>51461137
You need to enable the multilib repo

>>51461243
Don't bother, you're just downloading bloat for the same of a deprecated package.

>>51458376
There is nothing friendly about /flt/.

>>51458775
too mainstream

>>51461137
>pamac from Antergos repo
>pamac

>>51461695
Yes, the new pacman/yaourt GUI frontend is called pamac.

>>51457314
>homosexual linux thread

Trying to add a user in slackware properly, but when I add it with most of the recommended groups, I cannot run "NetworkManager" "reboot" and a couple other notable commands as this user.
It will just come back as "command not found"
Am I missing some groups?

>>51457314
Count yourself in as a linux user:
https://www.linuxcounter.net/register/

>>51461739
mind = blown; wew

>>51457383
Can you stop avatar fagging with pictures of your father?

What are the main differences between Linux Mint and Linux Mint Debian Edition?

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>>51463067
Don't know what you mean?

>>51463113
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lmde+and+mint+defference&oq=lmde+and+mint+defference&aqs=chrome..69i57.11415j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=lmde+and+mint+difference

>>51460899
reboot, when you get to the splash screen hit escape and it'll kill the splash screen and show you what it's doing so you can see where it's hanging

>>51457314
WHY YOU RECOMMEND DOLPHIN YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT? WHY DID YOU RECOMMEND BLOATED KDE SHIT OH JESUS CHRIST

>>51457384
Fuck off with your bait. It's a friendly thread.

>>51462252
I haven't used slack in ages, but what was your adduser command or what groups did you give the user?

holy fucking shit this thread is absolute fucking trash why would anyone ever come here it's completely fucking useless because no one wants to shut the fuck up and just fucking post something that would actually contribute to the thread

jesus fucking christ

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>>51464921

Okay so I tried the Ubuntu Minimal install, but fucked up badly.

I erased up the entire disk (already had backup somewhere else) at the disk partitioner menu and after some steps it failed to install base system.

So at this point, I decided to install Windows so I booted up GParted live CD to convert ext4 to NTFS. In the GParted app, when I created a new partitioning table, I saw only 232 GB of unallocated space.

The problem is, I HAD 250 GB OF HARD DISK BEFORE THIS SHIT HAPPENED.
How did I fuck up this badly? Where did the 20 gigs vanish?

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>>51464947

>>51464965
GB, GiB, remember how to count

>>51457368
Yes, he posted a general thread.
>LOOK MOM! I POSTED THE "LOOK MOM" MEME AGAIN.

Are Linux subreddits better than /flt/?

>>51465012
As long as the OP recommend shit apps, reddit is better than /flt/.

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Just wondering if you guys think I'll be able to learn linx properly taking the online course from testout. Its geared towards helping you everything to paaa the linux certification and my school has it for free.

I'm really pumped since it looks fun and it's free!

>>51465912
Pic related is the OS I want to master. Also this terminal is geared towards terminal, shortcuts, directories, basically all you need to survive linux

>>51465912
Learning any OS through a course sounds like something a 90 year old would do. If that's what you want/need, go ahead. It would be better to learn on your own, though.

>>51458376
Only when op is a faggot and try forcing his reddit meme

>>51465808
But op comes from reddit

>>51465989
ok reddit

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>>51463569
>you will never be sexually abused by jim'll fix it

So is fedora actually good or are you guys just memeing

>>51466403
as long as it works its fine, but it is rather prone to breakage

>>51466403
Open suse is better

>>51466403
it's okay but i like debian better

>>51466575
>>51466594
>>51466989
So is there no fedora minimal install other than that cloud bullshit

Why don't more people use SPICE instead of VNC? Isn't it better and faster?

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exFat vs NTFS format on external drives for linux distros?

Mint 17.2 with MATE.
Tried Midori, shitty browser that stuttered as hell.
Firefox, also stuttered.
Goddamn Chrome(inb4 botnet) is the fastest, smoothest.

What the hell?

>>51467008
There is a netinstall image on the download page.

How to: ventrillo on a 64bit ubuntu-based distro?

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Qubes sounds nice.
Should I try it?

I have the Unix command line Peepcode screencast, where should I upload it to so you faggots can download it?

>>51467323
use the iceweasel/firefox aurora. mint software is old btw.

>>51467537
I use some stuff that firefox doesn't work with. (like this http://www.whirled.com/#world-game_i_3323_14263211)

>>51467549
then install whatever plugin is needed. not sure if gnash works because i don't need flash.

>>51467566
No plugin. I tried everything and firefox just refuses to work (even tried palemoon)

>>51467592
so you tried installing flash?

>>51467617
No! Wow! I'm so stupid I didn't even try it!

anyone know how i can configure the power management to turn off my latop upon closing the lid?
bunsenlabs / debian

>>51467881
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management

Trying to dual boot debian, is it safe if I let debian install the grub loader?

Is kde-plasma on gentoo stable enough?

>>51468093
Plasma is just awful. It's the only DE with a fucking 10 second load screen.

>>51468075
yes

>>51468198
What should I go with then? Cinnamon?

>>51468272
depends on what you like. XFCE is great.

>>51468272
I've settled with cinnamon after trying them all, best mix of modern tech with classic desktop feel.

How can i make any distro run as fast as xp and be able to use fl studio properly?

>>51468308
lxde or openbox and wine for fl studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur3RboT-cDg

>>51468308
either make it run through playonlinux/wine or use ardour/lmms.

>>51468283
Is it better than MATE?

>>51468461
for me, yes.

>>51468465
I have a shitty radeon, and some games runs really slowly. Would it be better for me?

>>51468479
also, cinnamon was really unbearable, everything was so fucking slow

>>51468479
XFCE is lightweight if that's what you mean. i hope you use the open drivers btw. they run better in most games.

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>>51468495

>>51468527
oh, disregard what i said, mint has older drivers, open drivers have only surpassed the closed ones a few months back.

>>51468556
>>51468527
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI
forgot to attach this

>>51468570
>Multiple kernels
[spoiler]Cute penguin girl being taught love by a succubus[/spoiler]

test

Is there a way to remove screen tearing without using AMD's proprietary drivers?

>>51468682
Using a compositing WM.

>>51468682
What DE?

http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/

>>51468722
that link is full of unnecessary stuff, he just needs to disable composting, install compton and add "compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc" to startup applications.

>>51468722
>>51468780
Or he could ditch that shitty WM and use a proper one (Mutter, KWIN, Compiz etc.).

How would one go about streaming content from a GNU/Linux box to a dumb TV, wirelessly? Bonus points if I can stream the screen (not merely content).

anyone here use transmission-cli and/or rtorrent?

currently I've got all my anime on my desktop and I using transmission-gtk, however my 3TB is nearly full and I would like to avoid deleting things

I regularly sync to a file server in the basement that has over twice as much space, but I don't know how to seed stuff directly from there so I can safely delete anime from my computer's HDD. My main issue is that a lot of my torrents have files renamed and I don't know how to do that from a CLI client. Is it possible? I don't want a "downloads" folder and I don't want default names. I like to clean up folder and file names and give each anime its own folder and so on. So is that possible from either of the CLI torrent clients, and also is it possible to just transfer my exact torrentlist from transmission to transmission-cli and just change where the files are pointing to?

>>51457875
no, that's exactly right

however not every distro comes with the same kernel version, although you can always compile a newer kernel regardless of distro so again you're basically right

>>51468978
depends on the tv inputs. what do you have?

>>51458282
just to stop shitposting like this in the future, if 20 people join the thread and 1 guy posts, the counter will be at 20, not at 1. You can't actually get any useful info from the IP counter. The closest you can get to being a detective is trying to detect samefag when posts are similar and over a minute apart, otherwise we really are all anonymous here.

>>51458376
I try to be friendly, but we're all separate individuals here and trying to force friendliness throughout may be bullying in its own way

>>51469197
>what do you have?
I believe HDMI is enough, right?

>>51458728
what happened with owncloud?

>>51469240
owncloud is recommended in the fix I made, that pic was the old pic before the stupid OP updated his shit with another shit.

>>51469126
my desktop is on arch and the file server is on debian, not that it matters really

>>51468978
some sort of computer is needed

I use my ThinkPad for this sort of thing. TV and stuff on a file server, mount the drive as an NFS share on my laptop hooked to the TV, control with wireless mouse and a bluetooth keyboard adapter.

>>51469306
>some sort of computer is needed
Yes, but would one of those android powered USBs do the trick? And what kind of software would I need on both sides? I want to stream mpv to make use of its superior debanding and upscaling capabilities.

>>51467503
bump
I wanna know.

>>51469354
If you want to try it because "it sounds nice", go ahead.

My PC freezes sometimes. It's not a total freeze, because I can move the cursor and stuff like that, but I can't run/stop/kill any command, the whole computer basically enters "no touching" mode.
Could this be caused by fstrim? It runs every hour via cronjob. I noticed that this issue usually appears sometime after I delete a bunch of files (recent example: I deleted a few big mysql databases, 6GB in total)

>>51469371
Probably, does it freeze exactly every hour?

Which one has better support for Linux, AMD or Nvidia.

I have an AMD R9 390 video card but I see AMD drivers only support up to Linux Kernel 3.19.

Maybe I should have bought Nvidia?

>>51469429
NVIDIA's proprietary driver has better support than any AMD.

>>51469405
Nope, I would have noticed by now. It's been happening ever since I got an SSD as my system drive.
As I said, the only times I could correlate a freeze to my actions is when it happens after I wipe a lot of data off my SSD, which I rarely do, but should probably do more just to see what happens.
But still, when I noticed it freeze the last time it wasn't at 0 minutes, so the cronjob probably wasn't running then.

>>51469429
open drivers for AMD are as good as the proprietary ones, the proprietary nvidia drivers are better however. not sure how it is when you compare self-compiled performance to proprietary nvidia.

>>51469429
AMD. Nvidia doesn't even have wayland support. Go for AMD's open source drive and follow this tutorial to enable the latest features like DRI3 https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Radeon

Vulkan is coming to your card, and AMDGPU is really good now. Fear not.

Don't listen to nvidia shills like >>51469454 they are slightly better performance wise (until Vulkan hits, then nvidia will bite the dust) but they offer no wayland support and so on. They are not future proof.

>>51469472
Maybe because the partition wasn't optimized for SSD?

You may want to check this out.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD

>>51469498

Can the open AMD drivers play 3d accelerated games? When I use the open drivers in Linux Mint with cinnamon, I get a message saying Cinnamon is running in software mode.

>>51469511
>implying wayland is the standard right now
>implying wayland development would finish after 2015

>>51469529
>Can the open AMD drivers play 3d accelerated games?
Yes, https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Radeon check this out, it even has a proper Xorg.conf file.

>>51469533
It will be in due time, and nvidia won't be ready for it (thus, it won't be as stable). Besides, the OP could want to use it on fedora, or another distro.

>>51469429
the tl;dr is :
nvidia is better than AMD, whatever the GPU
Nvidia have good proprietary drivers and shit open source drivers
AMD have good open source drivers and shit proprietary drivers.
>but I see AMD drivers only support up to Linux Kernel 3.19.
source ? Because they contributed to the 4.2 and a a lot.

Don't worry too much. Things are improving a lot and the difference shouldn't be that big in the future.

>>51469429
i've got the same card as you. if you follow https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Radeon and everything works, please tell me.

>>51469598
stfu, galactus

should i upgrade from debian testing to unstable? which problems will i run into?

>>51469617
>stfu, galactus
Galactus here, that wasn't me. I'm >>51469511 and >>51469550 and I do not have a 390 (if you had the article you'd know that :^] ).

Nice try though.

>>51469553
>source ? Because they contributed to the 4.2 and a a lot.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64

Release Notes:

System Requirements
Before attempting to install the AMD Catalyst™ Proprietary Linux Graphics Driver, the following software must be installed:
Xorg/Xserver 7.4 and above (up to 1.17)
>Linux kernel 2.6 or above (up to 3.19)
glibc version 2.2 or 2.3
POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support is required for 3D applications

>>51469669
>proprietary
using proprietary amd drivers doesn't make sense.

>>51469679

>using the drivers made by the manufacture of your video card is bad
>using the drivers made by third party isn't third world tier

>>51469709
the documentation on AMDs side has become pretty great and AMD actively helped the guys developing the open drivers. the open drivers are better than the closed ones. do you want to use inferior proprietary software?

>>51469370
What I mean by "it sounds nice", is that the concept of it is very interesting, using compartmentalization to achieve security.
I want to know if it runs well, however. Virtualizing almost everything to achieve security must put strain on the system's hardware.

>>51469519
I'm pretty sure I aligned everything when I was setting it up. I just checked, the main partition on the SSD starts at 1050624, which is divisible by 512 (the physical block size). So that shouldn't cause problems.

>>51469746

I hope you don't use proprietary hardware with that open-source software.

>>51469785
please stop throwing around shit that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion if you don't want to look like a bad troll.

>>51469809

Don't come at me for using or wanting to use drivers by the manufacturer of my video card if you yourself aren't going to be a purist.

>>51469785
>I better try some damage control

>>51469849
so you want to use objectively worse drivers for no valid reason? fine. just know that AMD is putting a lot of work into the open drivers aswell and that they contribute to the kernel on a regular basis. go fuck yourself.

>>51469849
The "third party shit" you're talking about are developed by both the manufacturer and the community.

>>51469785
Hello, Broadcomfag.

Stopped using grsecurity kernel because paxd doesn't work with the nvidia-grsec driver and gradm is a pain in the ass. Did I do wrong? Is there any point in using linux-grsec kernel w/o paxd/RBAC?

>>51469926
S E L I N U X
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>>51469999
I know, dem red crosses though:
https://grsecurity.net/compare.php

>>51469669
>>51469709
don't worry. I'm currently using the 4.2 kernel and don't have any issue with my GPU. I use the open source drivers.
Don't use the closed source drivers, they aren't very good, and there benchmarks that shows open source drivers being as much or even better than the proprietary.

>>51470028
What are you using that on, a desktop?

>>51470061
Yeah, a desktop I use for work. Just don't want my machine to be a testing ground for possible new linux trojans, all I read so far about linux security seems largely negative. Although doing data backups solves my biggest worry, the rest is mostly paranoia tbqh.

>>51470127
Interesting. I've never really looked in to all that stuff and just (perhaps stupidly) assumed it was only really needed for servers. Might have to start reading up on it.

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what the hell just happened

>>51470153
It was for servers.

>>51470161
Have some sense.

>>51470161
is sdc an external drive? sounds like a loose cord or power connection .

>>51470168
Why do you think that protections against memory corruption exploits is only needed for servers?

>>51457314
It is not.
I tried to access a file on there and saw a bunch of I/O errors, so I checked dmesg and saw that it had been mounted readonly. Unmounted, tried to remount, then this happened.
Can drives just fail, just like that? With no warning whatsoever? Scary shit, mang.

>>51470264
Yeah they can but it may not be that, could be a kernel bug or something.

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Anyone else trying the latest Cinnamon version?

>>51470668
>he fell for the cinnamon meme

>>51469926
>paxd doesn't work with the nvidia-grsec driver
I'm retarded, the problem was caused by nvidia-libgl, not by the driver. Mesa-libgl just werks otoh. Now to continue with gradm learning mode.
inb4 nice blog

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I hear NFS is considered obsolete because of poor security.

What is its replacement for mounting filesystems over a network? Please don't say Samba, I want to be able to use ext3 features.

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botnet memes aside, why cant i make vivaldi adopt my numix icon theme?

>>51471097
because it's shit. just edit the launcher and change the icon manually.

>>51457314

I use xfce4-terminal in Manjaro and it tends to just freeze from time to time when I start typing something in. Is it me, or system or I just use shitty terminal.

>>51470968
>cinnamon
>meme

More like the best DE

>>51471167

I mean it freezes completely and not responding to anything, so I just close it and open new instance, but every time I feel myself stupid then I do this. It is not so hard but I forced to navigate to the directory I worked before.

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>>51457314
Well, I got it up again. >>51457314 was right, I need to get some sense.
I don't know what caused the initial I/O errors, but fsck got confused because I formatted the main storage drive and forgot to update my fstab, so everything went to shit.
>mfw "Welcome to emergency mode!"

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>>51469204
>just to stop shitposting like this in the future, if 20 people join the thread and 1 guy posts, the counter will be at 20

But anon, thats absolute nonsense and completely wrong.
The counter counts posts, not views. We dont have views number at our disposal.
Theres also 4chanX which marks posts made by new IPs well, no need to bother with counter anyway.

So no, in threads like this we can recognize shitposting and samefagging easily, at least in the first hour...

I need some infos about connecting to external displays with a laptop

I'm using bspwm, and I'm wondering if there some sort of program that handles external displays. The only solutions I've found were custom scripts that creates an extra desktop and puts it on the external display using xrandr, but even then the display has to be connected before X is started, which is really inconvenient. Is there a better way? Or does getting this kind of functionality mean having to use a DE?

it's embarrasing how i could get linux certifications but find a hard making linux good looking like some

what de/wm you guys use?

>>51471742
awesome.
Any DE looks fine with a relatively ok theme. What are you having trouble with exactly?

Will

sudo apt remove flashplugin-installer

uninstall flash or just delete the installer?

>>51457314
>no emacs

>>51471088
use nfs over ssh if you need security

where do i find the config file of thunar?
i removed the top bar through the thunar settings and closed the window.
but i cant acces it again because you can only open it through the top bar :<

>>51471742
+1 for awesome. here are some nice themes:
https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats

is there a dedicated 4chan browser for linux?

>>51471088
sshfs

ive been using linux for more that two years now
mostly because i forget to select windows at the grub menu

>>51471190
How does it compare to gnome and kde?

>>51472608
Pick a browser you only use for 4chan and there you go.
qupzilla or midori or something which you rice to the point of being unusable for anything else than 4chan.

What's the best solution to manage music on an iPhone on linux ?

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Alpine's installer keeps failing when I actually want to install it onto my HD using "sys".
I don't understand, should I just not use it use something else?

So is it possible to use Perl-style regexes in Wget or Curl or something equivalent?

I've read vague forum posts saying that "it's supported" but I can't find anything in the man pages for either, and googling just gets me people trying to figure out how perl regexes work.

are there any arch based/inspired distro that have full compatibility with the AUR? preferably it looks nice and clean, chakra almost got there but it lacks AUR support, as well as lacking support for LUKS.
i need a daily driver and don't have time to spend hours on ricing.

>>51473752
architect

>>51473752
The only arch-based "distro" that's not shitware is Architect.
It's fully compatible with, and only uses, the normal Arch repos as well as the AUR.

>>51473575
could you go into more detail on what the issue is?

Is anyone using the latest KDE plasma?

>>51473710
Anyone?

>>51473752
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_based_distributions_%28active%29#BBQLinux
Comes with AUR installed.If you like Arch,have an Android device, and want an easy install,this is on par with Architect.

>>51473752
it's not that hard to manually add aur support, yes you can do that. I don't remember the exact details off the top of my head but basically you edit the sources file to include aur, install yoart and make sure you have all the build tools installed so you can build from aur and install pamac

>>51474025
>>51473858
>>51473793
thanks anon, ill look at of both of these, anyone know if Antergos a garbage distro as well?

>>51474116
/g/ likes to hate it but it's fine, so is manjaro

>>51474116
It's just arch

>>51474096
...you don't need yoart to use the AUR, anon

All you need is the `base-devel` package.

>>51474116
It is.

>>51474131
>so is manjaro
there is absolutely nothing fine about manjaro

>>51474116
Antergos is ok if you can get it to install. The installer is quite bitchy though.

>>51474160
http://allanmcrae.com/2015/02/improvements-on-manjaro-security-updates/
Even this cunt has eased up on Manjaro, why can't you?

>>51474213
Because it's a pile of shit

Hey guys what do I need to install to get an option on right click to format my USB flash? Is there a such thing in linux world?

>>51474309
you might be able to use gparted, or you could just use the terminal

>>51474309
Gparted

I'm looking for a shell/addon/alias whatever that lets me operate on the previous path I operated on. Read up on some bash stuff but just can't find the right one. The workflow should be like:

ls ~/Root/Share
# I get some output and decide I want to do something with it
mv <thatfolder>/thisfile ~
# so that it moves ~/Root/Share/Thisfile

just quickly get the previously entered path and use it for another command. Is there something like this?


>>51474309
Can you explain this further? Do you want to be able to rightclick anywhere or on the device in your file explorer?

I've been thinking about picking up a cheap laptop in order to test out Linux for a while. I don't feel comfortably leaving Windows on my desktop yet, but maybe some time in the future.

Anything in particular I need to consider? Is a 250-300$ laptop decent enough to run most distros?

>>51474309
right click in what?

Spacefm has the ability to do this, most file managers probably can do as well.

>>51471812
anyone? :(

>>51474367
>>51474440
I have gparted and been using it for this . I just remembered the right click option so I wondered if it exist.
>>51474456
Yes , I want it to right click on the device in file manager? Just like on Windows I guess.

>>51474528
it will only remove the installer

>>51474456
bash has this by default but I don't remember what it is, in zsh I have it as alt .

>>51474519
I dont have that option in Thunar ..

>>51474553
create a shortcut for it then with the appropriate gparted options. You asked if it is possible in linux, yes it is.

>>51474535

it exists. right click a partition and you have an option to format.

>>51474517
you can get a used thinkpad pretty cheap, often for under $200. They're pretty good, but if you're looking for something that looks thin and modern you might want to look elsewhere.
They also have good linux support.

>>51474541
Do I have to use the 'purge' command to completely uninstall it from the terminal then? Or how would I do this.

>>51474602
Yeah, I've been considering looking for a used thinkpad. I know that they are solid, and can take a beating, but do I need to be afraid of "breaking it"?. The whole reason I wanna pick one up is to become more familiar with computers in general, so I will probably tinker a lot. Linux supposedly gives you more opportunities, so I'm guessing it is also easier to fuck up?

>>51474672
>Or how would I do this.
Don't use Aptitute, for starters. It's absolutely terrible for uninstalling anything.

Even if you manage to get flash uninstalled, your computer probably won't reboot the next time you try because Aptitude fucked up and uninstalled systemd because it was a dependency of Flash or something retarded.

>>51458728
popcorn time is back https://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-times-alive-full-comeback-in-the-works-151117/

>>51474672
you should just use

sudo apt remove flashplugin

(replace flashplugin-installer with whatever the actual program or addon is)

>>51474713
but popcorntime has been shit from the beginning,

>>51474713
That doesn't mean it's something worth recommending.

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Can anyone help me? I downloaded http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/community/Gnome/2015.11/manjaro-gnome-15.09-r3-x86_64.iso/download
But can not install it because the desktop does not load.

>pic related

>>51457314
So I have a question for /flt/. I have linux mint and windows dual-booted(i'm very, very new to Mint), and I only really use windows for gaming and work stuff(proprietary software). What I want to know is if there's anyway to run my Steam in say Wine so that I could point it to the hard drives with my windows game installs? Because I don't want to have to re-install most of my games.

>>51474683
thinkpads are fantastic for customization, and they are pretty durable from my experience. If you're worried about fucking up your computer with your linux installation, you should try tinkering with linux in a virtual system beforehand, it'll give you good experience first

Can someone explain to me why I can't install firefox dev edition on linux? I'm using Mint and every time I add the ppa it says it worked but nothing happens. I can manually download it and run it but if I'm not mistaken that won't auto update, right?

>>51474798
lol manjaro, what did you expect?

>>51474820
you might need to update your package manager after you add the ppa

>>51474528
can't you remove the installer, then use auto-remove, then use purge?

not familiar with apt-* but an anon in another thread mentioned those will remove unneeded dependancies, and clear up all files. check the man pages

>>51474720
This is where I'm confused. The binary I installed from the repos is literally called "flashplugin-installer", as in I used

sudo apt install flashplugin-installer

to get flash installed. I can't tell if it's just a matter of the name of the binary being retarded or if I would really be just removing the installer if I were to remove "flashplugin-installer".

Here's what locate flashplugin dumps:

~$ locate flashplugin
/etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/install_plugin
/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/flashplugin-installer.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/icons/adobeflashplugin.png
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-installer
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-installer/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-installer/copyright
/usr/share/package-data-downloads/flashplugin-installer
/var/cache/flashplugin-installer
/var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-installer_11.2.202.548ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb
/var/lib/flashplugin-installer
/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.config
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.prerm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.templates
/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/flashplugin-installer

>>51474844
I've added ppa before so I think I'm following all the steps, plus I just followed this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/548003/how-do-i-install-the-firefox-developer-edition but nothing happens. I tried adding -dev after the firefox in the last line of their ppa instructions but that didn't do it either.

I really want that delicious multiprocessing, why they haven't made it part of the beta at least yet I don't know, it seems stable as fuck on windows.

>>51474517
macbook fåvæ

>>51474843
Name a better distro with gnome based on Arch. Antegros?

>>51474916
Arch

>>51474873
if the flashplugin-installer is the only thing you installed, then removing it should remove most files related to the flashplugin

>>51474906
well, if what the link you provided says is true, then all you should need to do is install "firefox" from that specific ppa and it will override your previous version of firefox with the dev version

>>51474924
I have no Broadband and only one Laptop.

>>51475014
architect then

>>51474906
also, I believe that if you do manually install firefox dev version, you can have it check for updates/install updates from within firefox itself, right?

>>51475046
I think so, which is why I'm trying to avoid installing it that way.

>>51475141
so you don't want it to update?

>>51475038
Works only with ethernet. I don't have it.

>>51475158
No, I want to install it through the ppa so it does autoupdate, but it won't work.

new thread >>51475175
new thread >>51475175
new thread >>51475175

>>51475038
I think that's probably bullshit but I haven't used it since it switched from evolution, but anyways use antergos

>>51474937
>then removing it should remove most files related to the flashplugin

Is this all "uninstalling" actually is? Sorry if I sound retarded but I'm used to Windows magic doing all the work. I'm also not used to having a sane filesystem.

>>51474517
use virtual machines

>>51474916
Architect.

It's literally the only "based-on" Arch worth using.

>>51474720
s/remove/purge/

>>51457836
>best package manager
>best installer
>looks polished and professional
OpenSUSE

>best gnome experience out of the box
>GNOME

>>51475433
>>best package manager
>>best installer
>>looks polished and professional
>OpenSUSE
I'll give you installer and aesthetic, but no way in hell Zypper is better than Pacman.

>>51475177
okay, so I just installed it using the three lines they put in the link letter for letter and it worked perfectly
here's what I put

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install firefox

It succeeded for me, so maybe try copying and pasting that code into the terminal.
I'm also going to post this in the other thread.

>>51475492
It is, bro. Comfy as fuck.

>>51475588
It's definitely better than Fedora's or Debian's but Arch's just does so much more.

I will say this though, YaST is such a god-tier piece of software that pretty much any other argument for or against openSUSE becomes irrelevant as soon as somebody brings it up.

Is Owncloud good? For my usecase I just want automatic backups of pictures I take on my phone and and a few other synced documents. Not a massive amount of stuff and no huge files. I'd also like to run the server on my raspberry pi.