AMD vs. Nvidia

PowerVR now that the driver's source code and documentation has leaked.

I buy my graphics cards based on their looks, not based on their performance.
I am the #newgengamer

>>47341887
>negengaymer
You mean aesthetics fag?

>>47341878
Too bad that their architecture is so complex that not even their own software team can write proper divers for it.

>>47341854

Nvidia is more power efficient but not by a significant enough margin to matter at its efficiency goes out the window if you overclock it which everyone does

AMD cards have more memory, more badnwidth and more processors so they handle higher resolutions and heavier gaming load MUCH better than nvidia this means a higher minimum FPS in almost every application a GTX 970 needs a brutal overclock just to match the MIN-FPS performance of a 290 running at stock speed even in 1080p

Nvidia has phsyX but that is gimmicky bullshit and you can enable PhysX on AMD gpu's and they dont take much of a performance penalty anymore Im currently running PhysX on borderlands2 on my AMD GPU and i only lose 4fps when its running and im still above 60fps in the game

AMD is the hands down winner in sound quality and game immersion due to their TruPositional Audio technology which gives a more accurate spacial representation of sounds in games this is an absolute must have if you like Horror/Suspense games

Nvidia still uses the old method of sound position

Both are easy to use just plug the card in and instal drivers from the website and your good to go or in the case of AMD just instal catalyst off of the CD in the box and catalyst will auto download and install the drivers for you it even detects old drivers and unistalls them so your card doesnt get fucked up by conflicting driver sets

AMd also comes with Raptr which detects and auto optimizes all your games for you it detects your GPU and its current clock speed and then it detects your monitor settings and auto corrects all the graphics option of the game to ensure the smoothest and best qwuality game settings for your hardware i was skeptical about this at first but it detects 80% of all the games i install and its optimizations are mostly spot on and when they arent i can manual change them myself its a real time saver

pick AMD.....seriously pick AMD

>>47341854
AMD CPU? -> AMD
Intel CPU? -> Nvidia

>>47341909
> shoulda_done_starting_strength.jpg

I would say due to nvidia putting their shillworks shit into every game they have more features
but AMD cards just dominate performance wise

>>47341878
>leaked
Leaked means it was taken without the company's permission and if anyone uses it they're opening themselves up for a huge ass lawsuit.

That's actually a negative for open source development not a positive. Open source devs don't like having to look over their shoulder for every commit making sure that no one is about to sue them for using their IP.

>>47341940
> I am not a fanboy nor shill

>>47341940
Take a breath for fucks sake

>>47341993

I used to have a 770 and it was a horrible piece of shit so i switched to an R9-290

its pure fucking sex and i have no regrets

Nvidia is all hype and no substance

Nvidia fans are the type to buy Razer crap and the type to argue that you need a $200 membrane logitech keyboard for maximum performance

>>47342071
I paid $80 for a rosewill mx black keyboard
it just werkz and doesn't have any of that ricer shit

>>47342071
Because AMDfags are too poor to afford quality peripherials, LOL

ITT: cool stories

>>47341854
Nvidia = apple when it is the locked down asthestic over substance type
And = apple when it wad the open source underdog type

Nvidia has many features that allow it to move its performance up. You don't need to waste a fortune on a psu. Also there's this thing called Nvidia shield that causes amd users to shit their diapers.

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>>47342168
>Android gaming
Nvidia fans.

>>47342188
well meme'd my friend :^)

>>47342168

>a peice of shit streamlink android device that barely works
>making us shit out pants

nigger i can make one of those out of a fucking smartphone

>>47342168
Yes, yes, don't buy that PSU with 50 more watts, you'll sodomize your wallet, and don't forget to save $2 a month on that electricity bill, _you_ fucking POORFAG

>>47342210
y-you t-t-tooo..

>>47342168
>you should buy a card to save money on electricity
>you should buy one enthusiast card over another because you use less power
either be a casual or enthusiast, don't be all wishy washy about it

>>47342188
Hey, it's the only place where Nvidia can claim top dog, too bad their Tegra chips are power hungry cows and barely have any design wins, I quite like how they managed to push performance with a in-order core.

>>47342233
Well, thank you

>>47342188
>>47342210
>>47342213
>>47342233
>>47342257
Just to let you fags know,
There is another app that allows you to use game stream and you don't need shield devices just any capable android phone and and NVIDIA card and a controller. Play computer games anywhere.

I've used Nvidia most of my life -5900xt - 9600gt - gtx 285- until recently I bought a 7970.
Not going back.
The no drivers meme is just that.
Nvidia is overpriced.
Nvidia is scum, see >3.5GB
Nvidia is disgusting PR wise, >that recent fucking conference
AMD has a decent public face and we need them in the competition game.
AMD wins hands down on the price/performance ratio.

Always buy what delivers the best performance for less money. When it's a tie, always go AMD.

>>47342306
>streaming games over a wireless/mobile connection

Jesus Christ what has possesed people.

Also Nvidia is one of the most valuable stocks currently due to recent mobile technologies and planning of future ones. Your move AMD fags.

Regarding graphics accelerators for PCs, ATI mostly cooperates with the free software movement, while nVidia is totally hostile. ATI has released free drivers.
However, the ATI drivers use nonfree microcode blobs, whereas most of nVidia's products (excepting the most recent ones) work ok with Nouveau, which is entirely free and has no blobs.

Thus, paradoxically, if you want to be free you need to get a not-very-recent nVidia accelerator.

I wish ATI would free this microcode, or put it in ROM, so that we could endorse its products and stop preferring the products of a company that is no friend of ours.

>>47342327
Yes, I care about their stock more than I care for their products, shareholder-san.
That's like bring in a 'diversity program' into a physics/engineering field, what am I supposed to tell you, that you're an idiot?

>>47342326
What is you need to go on trip, you don't have good PC but you're obsessed with Skyrim again? Nvidia GameStream. Besides its not like that's what you do all the time. You need your computer for your /g/ay autist porn.

>>47342306
why do you even mention it, you raging faggot?
I have nvidia cards myself, but shield is nothing to be proud of
it's just some shitty service that'll never take off
so shut the fuck up about it, no one cares

one awesome thing to mention would be the build possibility to stream directly to twitch or recording shit
haven't seen something like this from AMD yet

>>47342168

Remember that one time that you wanted to play a PC game on a piece of shit handheld?

>>47342358
How can you even enjoy playing like that, absolutely fucking revolting.

I see this thread becoming an AMDfag thread of hate toward Nvidia.

>>47342364
you can record and stream shit directly with the gaming evolved app

>this thread
>every fucking day
>it's always the same two faggots calling eachother poorfags and whatnot

>>47342379
You don't seen to understand

depends on what you're trying to do

Some of my work involves using CUDA-accelerated Matlab libraries, so I'm sorta stuck with Nvidia.

AMD is for poorfags that can't afford quality.

AMD is a Honda Civic
NVIDIA is a Corvette.

>>47342410
what's with the fucking car analogies right now?
>>>g/thread/47341416
they are everywhere
we get it now
shut up

>>47342410
nvidia is more like a pinto

>>47342410
>Muh shit analogy

Equating a rendering architecture to a vehicle is pointless. Go back to your console.

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>>47342423
>>47342434
Look at these poorfags. I bet you buy Kool Aid instead of proper fruit punch.

>>47342434
Actually more like a Nissan Leaf

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>>47342385
A shame you seemed an honest man

>>47342410
AMD always did give me the image of a Mustang.

>>47342447
>proper fruit punch
what is this shit?

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>>47341940
>raptr
>good

>>47342497
whats wrong with it?

>>47342479
I don't know what kind of cancer drinks these people absorb, I just stick to watter and raspberry/blueberry concentrates.

Here's a perfect analogy.

Nvidia - sweet food
AMD - spicy food

Get it?

>>47342497

You what, nigger? I use AMD exclusively and I make sure every AMD system I own doesn't run this bullshit.

There is literally no reason to use Raptr.

>>47342113
I lol'd, but in all reality AMDfag is pure win

>>47342540
I know you meant it's all just up to preference, but I cannot think of it in any other way than this:

Nvidia - women and children
AMD - men and indians

>>47342540
How can anyone enjoy spicy food? Enjoy your destroyed taste buds and disgusting pepper breath

>>47342544
Raptr is great for anyone who wants something that works and comes installed with the drivers. It can stream, record, auto setup settings, update your drivers ect ect. I'd tell anyone who actually cares about that shit to keep raptr installed. Only reason I don't have it is I don't use that shit.

>>47342590
How can anyone enjoy sweet food? Enjoy your diabetes, cavities, hyperactivity, cancer, obesity, heart disease and depression.

How can anyone enjoy food? Enjoy your having to poop.

>>47342641
How can anyone enjoy? Enjoy your having to feel.

>>47342645
I hate having to feel, I should just cease all bodily functions.
Fucking robots have it easy

>>47342618
Raptr is fucking awful, I had such buyers remorse when I went AMD with my last card. I won't make that mistake again.

>>47342693
So are you saying I should go 970?

>>47341940

Umm....nVidia has Geforce Experience which does the same thing as Raptr

Stop being a shill.

Also, AMD drivers are rubbish. When I had 6970s the drivers would crash constantly and I'd need to have fans on 100% or they would overheat. On a single 970 now and no regrets.

>>47341968

>Still believing this

>>47342358
>implying you can only do this with Nvidia™ GameStream™ technology™
I want a graphics card, not some sort of gimmick that can easily be accomplished with some ffmpeg wizardry.

Can anyone explain why my GT530 has less issues than the 980 I had before?

>>47342730

Running 1080? Yes.

1440+? 290/x

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>>47341854
Pic clearly says that Nvidia is better

>>47342693
>Raptr is fucking awful
whats wrong with it?

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>>47342730

yup. And pic related makes my OCD crazy, one of those "normal" errors.

>>47342800
I'm running 1080, BUUUT I want to run games like Skyrim with many texture and graphical mods which I know devour VRAM. Will it hit 3.5 GB? That's the question.

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>>47342807
Enjoy being wrong, nigger.

>>47342816

I dont want to login to stupid shit that doesnt need to be logged into. And it finds like 1/3 of the games geforce experience finds. Experience is just a much better product, Raptr has shit all over the place and bugs you constantly about fucking bullshit.

>>47342845

God dammit nobody plays Skyrim. This thread is over.

>>47342871
but...but the mods...make it fun :( I don't even have a waifu, I promise!

>>47342908

I can smell your Rei-fag scent. Flee from this terrible place

>>47342866
You seem to be bullshitting with no real complains. Sounds like you are a shill.

>>47342908
HAHA HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WAIFU

HAHAHA
LOOK AT THIS LOSER

HAHAAHHA

>>47342041
I have a 770 OC Windforce and I love it.

The only plus side to AMD is if you have an AMD system, you get all the drivers at once, so that's convenient.

I had a 4870, I oveclocked it to 1020MHz and after going to 130C it exploded and shredded my motherboard

Fucking AMD

>>47342966
Such a shame it didn't kill you, we could deal with less stupid.

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>>47342989
Fuck off currynigger

>>47342989
I don't get it, why'd you post a gold and white image?

>>47341854
>Which is better?
Subjective. Are you on Linux? Do you care about power efficiency? Do you really want G-Sync over FreeSync for some odd reason? etc.

>Which has more power?
AMD.

>More features?
Nvidia. Too bad everything they have that AMD doesn't is just gimmicky bullshit that doesn't matter and will never be utilized by 99% of users.

>Ease of use?
Nvidia, it just werks.

>Aesthetics?
Stock coolers? Nvidia, with the exception of AMD's 295x2 because it looks incredible. But again, this is subjective. Aftermarket coolers don't matter for the most part because they're generally the same anyways.

>Autism?
Fanboys from either side, especially the ones who false flag as fanboys from whichever "team" they aren't on.

Overall I prefer AMD for its raw performance as well as significantly cheaper prices. The drivers are still pretty dodgy though, ignore the drones who will tell you otherwise. Most problems seems to be with scaling/overscanning/underscanning, but thankfully it's easy enough to fix. Still, I shouldn't be needing to fix stupid shit like that at all; and I don't with an Nvidia card.

>>47342937

lol ok, well, it's spyware so that's enough to disqualify it as usable.

>>47342937
>>47342816
>>47342749

>Needing a program for optimising your programs

How fucking dumb are you? Who needs help choosing video game settings?

>>47343028
I wouldn't use either because I don't need some software to babysit me, but it's pretty hilarious anyone can complain about spyware while using the Windows platform.

>>47343049

>I was rekt

>>47342800
>>47342845
>>47342871
Watch Dogs topped out at about 3GB Vram usage on max settings 1080p.
Anyone who still goes out and gets a 970 is a brain dead retard.

>>47343028
>its spyware
so is geforce experience

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>>47342996

>>47342382
>Pretty much every neo-cosumerist /g/ thread

>>47342730

>Raptr is fucking awful, I had such buyers remorse when I went AMD with my last card. I won't make that mistake again.

wait you switched to nvidia because you didnt like Raptr and you were to stupid to diable/uninastall it?

>>47342866

>I dont want to login to stupid shit that doesnt need to be logged into

oh wow this stupid motherfucker...

>And it finds like 1/3 of the games geforce experience finds.

no it doesnt

>Experience is just a much better product, Raptr has shit all over the place and bugs you constantly about fucking bullshit.

le empty anecdote face I have never had an issue with raptr

>>47342955

your forgetting that when AMd gives you drivers they dont destroy your card

thats a pretty big plus

if i had to choose between lolnodrivers AMD and Nvidia drivers that actually physically destroy my card when i install them well.....

>Which is better? Which has more power? More features? Ease of use? Aesthetics? Autism?

NEITHER

>Which one do I buy?

Whichever one the best raw performance (FPS and frame time, assuming gaymen) card below your budget ceiling during the current generation; expect shit to change drastically whenever a new generation is released.

>>47343345

>Whichever one the best raw performance (FPS and frame time, assuming gaymen) card below your budget ceiling during the current generation

thats AMD 90% of the time

>>47343355
Well then, you still need to consider that 10% of the time when it's Nvidia.

>>47343381
nvidia is shilled all the time tho

>>47343412
And it's the duty of every single person with two working neurons in their skull to be able to distinguish between obvious fanboy shilling and well-founded suggestions.

Geforce Experience is full shit, it set my BF4 settings to 200 % once and I wondered why I could barely hit 20 FPS on Ultra. 200% on 2K is a lot...

In terms of price/performance AMD remains superior. Maxwell Nvidia is better for OC but really expensive as it does not deliver a lot more performance. Also 3.5 is a thing that should guide you to the 290X, if you don't want a 980 or just think its too expensive.

As my second 980 broke within two months Im really considering a 390X. A 600 € graphics card doesnt break so fast and have driver issues. My lowend Fermi card never had a single issue in the past days when I was forced to use it. There are only two options for me:

>390X
>980Ti (With aftermarket cooler to laugh at TitanX users)

>>47343442
Think you'd need a few more than that. But this place is full of autists.

>>47343476
Do you expect the 300 series to lower the prices of the 200 series? That's mostly why I'm waiting to buy a 290x (or maybe still 970 idk)

>>47343442
obviously people don't because nvidia sells more while offering less

>>47343476

your nvidia card has little longevity since there a major scandle involving nvidia not updating drivers for keplar cards anymore

the 780ti is literally last gen and the flagship card and people payed 600-700$ for it and now its losing in all the modern benchmarks to the 290X because it has no new drivers

from that you can extrapolate that this generation of Maxwell cards will face a similar fate when pascal is released

AMD might be slow on updates but their updates are 99% stable when they come out and they continue to update cards from several generations back

for that reason alone buy AMD

>>47343551
>downloading new drivers for my 660ti
I'm sorry faggot what did you say?

>>47342693

>I had such buyer's remorse when I installed a piece of optional software

Ebin, simply ebin.

I use Nvidia, due to my past headaches juggling multiple screens and my last HD6850 's drivers going into crashing loops and fucking failing to recognize certified DP active adaptors.

Also 4K hardware decoding doesn't BSOD on Cuvid.

Power consumption is also relevant for me as is CUDA.

Gaming is actually secondary and not a priority.

Wait, people on /g/ actually buy AMD?

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>>47343708
They must be /v/ fags trying to infiltrate behind enemy lines

>>47343708
>>47343745
/v/fags are 100% nvidiots

>>47343708
>>47343745
FUCK OFF GODDAMNI T GET THE FUCK BACK TO REDDIT

>>47343861
Raging retard alert

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>>47343880
Reddit user detected

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>>47343880
u mad nvidia fag?

Only reason I got a 980 was for shadow play. Don't give me that 'just use OBS' nonsense I had an AMD card before and it was nothing but a headache. I just wanted something that just werks.

>>47341854
AMD: good for price, good graphics, bad drivers, heating issue
Nvidia: good graphics, okay for price, very expensive, good heat management, good drivers.

It depends on how much you're willing to spend. They're basically the same but AMD has a larger gap between driver updates and they sometimes have issues. If you don't care to shove your cock on your pc to monitor the temperature 24/7 then the heat is very arbitrary of you to care about.

>>47344158
Yes I used okay for price and very expensive intentionally. The parts are worth the price they charge, but they're still expensive.

>>47343968
>32nm

>>47344158
>AMD: heating issue

Some reference models had issues, quit spewing shit around. Novidia is the housefire meme generator. Plus, my old gtx285 hit 90 degrees Celsius constantly during gaming and 50-60 idle while my 280x idles at 28 and peaks at a maximum of 60.
get fucked shill

>>47344219
>gtx 285
And this guy thinks he know Nvidia

>>47344219
I remember when the Fermi's came out and the heat pipes melted some people's 6/8pin power connector... lol

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>>47344266
the 400 and 500 series fixed all that right XD

They both bounce around between being on the top for high end performance, AMD's price bracketing is much more granular though. NVidia's features and drivers are usually more mature (in the software sense not the social sense), stable, and generally higher quality, but that doesn't mean AMD's are bad. Aesthetics usually depend on manufacturer though and buying a reference card for anything other than benchmarking is fucking stupid.

They're both fine.

>>47341854
Features, Driver support, Usually performance crowns= Nvidia

Price for performance, sometimes performance crowns, multi monitors = AMD

Nostalgia= ATI/3DFX Voodoos

The power thing currently is better on Nvidia and you know it changes every few years because if you remember Fermi holy fuck power and heat like people QQ about with the red team now.

I dunno I prefer Nvidia because they have more features that either are implemented more for what Im using or work better or both. They have also just more support driver wise for their products... simply put more new or old games that encounter problems have issues with AMD gpus vs Nvidia ones, not to say one side is 100% perfect.

Simply put if you want the best: Go with Intel/Nvidia in your system.

If you want the best for your money go with AMD.

>>47343503
The 380X will be possibly a rebranded 290X. So if I go AMD then 390. Nvidia is at least a newer architecture... 2XX prices will drop a bit, similar as Kepler prices dropped, you can get a 780Ti for 400 € now (cheaper than 980).

Go 290 and forget the 970, especially when you want to use VR devices in the future the frametimes will matter. OC the 290 and you have a 380X.

>>47343551
You can still play battlefield 4 on an 8800 gtx, do you think you could do similar things on the same era ATI card? I popped an old gtx 295 which is sli plus old so in theory it should suck? No out of like 30 games only DayZ standalone or Minecraft dont support the 2 gpus, and it handles most games at decent settings still.

To give you a comparison I couldnt even play new releases on AMD's flagship 7970 with a few games before I waited for a driver fix.

> trying to decide between 290, 290x, or 970
> come to /g/
> there is literally no consensus

fug

>>47344289
AMD cards don't even have heating issues. Their coolers work.
The stock ones are loud, but they never get hot like fermi cards did. Non-stock cooling isn't loud either so there's not many reasons not to get the card with better price/performance.

They do use more power- but if saving $15 a year on your power bill is worth spending $100 more on a graphics card... all the more to you I guess.

>>47343551
Are you sure, this 5XX card uses the same driver as the 980. They released a lot of updates in the recent time, more than I need...
>>47343968
>Single-Channel
>>47344266
Sure, the new Maxwell cards stay pretty cool, they constantly run boost frequencies. AMDs current architecture is similar to Kepler, hotter but OK, its time for a new one.

>>47344408
At stock speed remember

>>47344403
The 3xx amd series are coming out soon so either way if you buy nvidia or amd wait till then I say sir.

>>47344403
You won't find consensus in a place where fanboys exist. AMD fanboys will shill their products, nvidia fanboy will shill theirs, and the moderates who actually read benchmarks will get drowned out.
Go to a place like techreport or some other reputable tech review site (the reputable ones do frame time measurements, ignore sites that don't), check out the benchmarks, and get a card that looks like it's best for you.

Oh and don't come to /g/ shilling a brand.

>>47344403
Are you an utter retard by any chance? Of course there is, don't fucking buy a 970.

>>47344426
Retard you don't even know what a fag you sound like right now

>>47344440
http://www.pcgamer.com/why-nvidias-gtx-970-slows-down-using-more-than-35gb-vram/

>>47344465
Gee never seen THAT before

>>47341968
AMD CPU -> Just fucking don't
Intel CPU -> AMD GPU
Fixed it for you>>47341968

>>47344425
There will NEVER be consensus about this topic. Nvidia is fine but expensive, AMDs cards dont perform less (Maybe 5%, but who the fuck cares about stock clocks). I would like to see the 980ti, since the Titan is too expensive for a 30 % performance upgrade and VRAM meltdown. I have the 980 btw., bought it directly after 3.5, instead of a 970.

>>47344476
>I know but I don't care!

welp, retard confirmed

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>tfw the GTX 750 Ti is just slightly less powerful than the PS4

And there's not even going to be a 950 Ti so I would basically have to wait years until there's another sub 75W card that outdoes both consoles.

>>47344563
Wtf are you bringing up consoles you /v/tard

>>47342861
You made me LMAO next to my girlfriend in bed and I woke her up because I've been laughing for 10 minutes and pissing her off .

LMFAO pork shoulders and woodscrews.

>>47341878
I with this happened when I had my vaoi p netbook with gma500 graphics.

All the AMDs I ever owned overheated and didn't perform as smoothly

All the Nvidias I ever owned burned my house down and were bricked by the latest updates

AMD generally has more performance per dollar.

Nvidia has really neat driver features that AMD doesn't (Driver-injected HBAO+, a million anti-aliasing options, etc)

I go with Nvidia because I prefer the extra features.

>>47341940
>Using your graphics card for sound

>AMd also comes with Raptr
Nvidia has Geforce Experience which is the same thing.

>>47341854
Nvidia does not respect your freedom
AMD helps support the open source community

>>47341878
fuck PowerVR. only ARM GPU that manufacturer provides open 3d driver is Vivante

>>47342966
What were you expecting, you idiot? You raised its clock by 270MHz. If you do that to any 5+ year old card it will explode.

I will never spend another cent on AMD products. This is a calculated decision after authorizing over three million dollars on them over eleven years. I simply don't have the time to expend on their inadequacy any longer.

>>47342749
enjoy your botnet

>>47344563
>weaker than a fucking apu
i hope you're not fucking serious

>>47342410

More like Nvidia is the Prius.

>>47341854
I'm not really a graphics buff, but I'm pretty sure when I have the money to build my own computer, I'll be getting dual AMD Matrox's. They each have 6 mini-DP ports, an I would like a 12 monitor setup.
Only 2GB graphics RAM, but eh....

For the same number of monitors off of NVidia, I'd need triple-SLI'ed cards. Otherwise, I was gonna get 980s.

I trust NVidia more than AMD, because my AMD CPU fried my other laptop, but regardless, my usage concerns are more monitors and smaller cards.

980s (or even AMD Sapphires) are double-high, and I need single-high.

Matrox's are single-high, so I won't take 3 cards and use up 6/7 PCI-e slots on the mobo I'm looking at.
I'll still have room for a NIC, a sound card, more USB ports, and maybe something else.
See? And that's the cool part! "And maybe something else". I'd actually have an extra space to decide on.

Of course, I'd probably only be doing some mild gaming, not like wicked graphics. I just need more monitors. Most of the crap I play is platformers, VNs, and Minecraft.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NJG6K3I/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=N52FXMAPSXR7&coliid=I3TYG3YPZ44GUJ