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don't most atms still use XP

vending machines that take credit cards are becoming pretty common. Hell the air pump at the gas station i use has had a credit card reader for several years

>>46923894

For some reason, the US still uses magnetic strips instead of smart cards. It's pretty crazy.

>>46923943
Because we like to 'keep things American'
seriously there are still people out there who are like, "What do you mean you don't take a check?!"

so if we start using a card, oh its big brother, oh its obama, oh its because of nato bullshit fucking moron faggots
God I hate how retarded my nation can be.

>>46923894

More recent vending machines have improved slots and sensors that almost never spit your money back out. Although in fairness, I live in canada and our bills are fucking indestructibly firm now.

>>46923966
>seriously there are still people out there who are like, "What do you mean you don't take a check?!"

This is the best reaction when someone said this at my old job
I think the only places that still take them are government offices? It's seriously the easiest way to steal shit

>>46923943
>Leaking my card info over RFID every time I use it
God no. I mean, I could get an RFID shielding sleeve and put it in my wallet, but still.

Tape backup is still around and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

>>46923966

Dude, the fucking card readers at Target can read smart cards. They have the functionality. That function is just disabled.

>>46923983

As far as tearing goes, yeah. They tend to stick to each other, though... And they don't like heat very much. Figures we'd make currency that can't handle high temperatures...

>>46923992

For payments below 50$, all you need to do is tap the card on the reader and you're g2g. It's super fucking convenient. Just get an RFID blocking wallet.

>>46923894
>Meanwhile in Hungary there are vending machines accepting PayPass
Feels good

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holy shit

Even Africans have managed how to reliably deploy electronic payments without having to use cash

>>46924020
ITS disabled?!
Wow...

"I'm not into that new age stuff"
"this is whats wrong with the country"

I'm starting to see a few american credit cards with the chip shit like in european credit cards.

>>46923943
>>46923966

Typical retarded tripfags, recommending shitty insecure garbage because it's "smart"

sage

>>46924034
They did it without smartphones or nfc. It's a really interesting case study.

>>46924034
Pretty sure it's just the USA that is behind.

Every other country uses cashless transactions, has no use for "checks", and hardly uses magnetic strips anymore.

It's so strange that the USA is both the most advanced country in the world and also the most backwards.

>>46924059

ebin

>>46924050
its disabled due to the merchant association wanting to snuff apple pay and release their own payments system

look it up if you doubt me

>>46924059
Companies here are making money with established methods. They have no desire to use something new and potentially not make so much money.

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>>46924057
>>46924057

I think they called it M-PESA.

not sure which african country started M-PESA

>>46924054
When I said 'we' I meant that it was as a nation
I wish I was able to just tap my ID card and just use that to pay.

>>46924078

A la consumerism
Ergo profit

>>46923894
>It's 2015 and paper currency still has to be perfectly flat and inserted face-up in order to be properly detected and used in vending machines and ATM's.

Jesus you Americunts sure use outdated technology.I live in a second world country and our vending machines and ATMs accept bank notes on what ever side they're turned and regardless what face is pointing out.Plus,debit cards and credit cards all have chips on them,or even additional RFID on them.But I dont remeber when I used any of my cards.Got mobile banking so I pay everything through NFC or by scanning barcode image on the phone screen,if the shop uses older system.

>>46924054

Significantly reduces credit card fraud.

But I guess you don't mind having your account locked down twice a year because of irregularities in the payments (Fun fact: If you're ever going to Malaysia, make sure to tell your bank/credit card company first, otherwise they'll lock it the moment you make a purchase there).

>>46924075

Pretty much.

There's also a big fight between the two different standards (Java and Multos), but that's more a question of contracts with larger companies for the cards they actually put out.

>>46924059
probably because americans aren't retarded like yuros so they don't use shitty new fads just because someone slaps a buzzword on it

NSA please leave and let us pay cash

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>>46924059
>Most advanced country

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OP you don;t understand just how revolutionary this old shit was! :^)

http://youtu.be/TcrmLfQx_to?t=25m41s

>>46924116
>RFID reduces credit card fraud

Now I've heard it all

Enjoy someone stealing your credit card details from 10 meters away with an RFID reader

why are tripfaggots so retarded?

>>46924122
butthurt amerifat spotted

>>46924134
butthurt yurocuck spotted

>>46924078
>Companies here are making money with established methods. They have no desire to use something new and potentially not make so much money.

betcha the google wallet or whatever they call keeps track of what you're buying.

it's no wonder M-PESA is more superior and i'm sure it's /g/ approved

>>46923943

> Following an Oct. 1, 2015, deadline created by major U.S. credit card issuers MasterCard, Visa, Discover and American Express,card-present fraudliability will shift to whoever is the least EMV-compliant party in a fraudulent transaction.

Banks don't like liability so they'll probably issue chip cards to everyone by then

is it still to early for star trek utopia?

>>46924137
>when women were programmers

>>46924146

One of my family members works in the field. It's a lot more secure than that, at least for the ones issued by banks. Stuff like bus passes could potentially be easier to fuck with, but then there's no point as you wouldn't profit from it.

>>46923992
It's not fucking RFID. It's wireless smart card. It can't be cloned by capturing the transaction.

>>46924146
RFID != wireless smart card dumbass

>>46924228
Not that Mythbusters is a totally reliable source but they were threatened by credit card companies when they did a show on how insecure rfid is. It never aired.

>>46924289
source

>>46924581
>not him, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-St_ltH90Oc

>>46924289
>the mythbusters, a educational show on the discovery channel got forced to not air an episode by credit card companies
censorship just proves you're doing something wrong, striesand effect and whatnot

>>46923919
Yes, XP embedded.

>the machine in charge of your finances uses a 14 year old unsupported and insecure OS
>it will most likely continue to do so for quite some time

>>46923966
Oh God, that spelling, I know you yanks have to have it your way, but please, it's spelt 'cheque.' And every time I see it spelt 'check', I can't help but think that whoever wrote it never learnt how to use the letter 'q.'

>>46924289
RFID is not the same as contactless smart cards defined in "ISO/IEC 14443". The latter is designed not to be cloned. Implementations can suck but the protocol is secure by design.

Maybe Mythbusters confused the two as you and couldn't air their show cause it contained false information and conclusions.

>>46924625
Thanks. This just proves my point. They are talking about RFID. Credit cards do NOT use simple RFID. They use contactless smart cards defined by "ISO/IEC 14443".

>>46924693
I think the only way you can cheat PayPass cards is to carry around a merchant transmitter and charge max $100 from victims.

Just because it is new doesn't mean it is better

>>46925020
Yeah, but the transactions are logged and the merchant transmitter should be registered I assume. Instantly v&.

>>46924650
underrated post, and I live in the fucking deep south. Checks are for privilege, cheques are for bank accounts (or rain).

>>46923923
wait, the air pumps cost money to use in the states? they are free where I live.

>>46924650
Fuck off muslim cunt

>>46924034
Cashless because they never had money to begin with

>>46923894
>perfectly flat and inserted face-up

America never ceases to surprise me at how backwards it can be. Here in my backwater country we can put stacks into ATM in whatever position and the machine will accept it.

>>46924059
The country that builds infrastructure towards some end-goal tends to keep that infrastructure long past its end-of-life.
Japan did that with pretty much all personal electronics
USA did that with financial transaction systems, internet, electrical code, among other things.

Honestly, USA pioneered so much shit that there's so much old shit left behind that needs to be thrown out and done again.

>>46923923
>paying for air

>>46925187
He's paying for the gasoline or whatever that was used to compress the air.

>>46925187
You are not paying for air. You are paying for pressure.

Why is paper currency even still around? They should replace notes with little plastic chips equipped with RFID tags. Tech is secure enough, and the tags can be mass-produced for a few cents per piece.

>>46925117
This

>>46923966
CASH IS FREEDOM YOU FAG

>>46925213
paper is still cheaper and more reliable than plastic+silicon

>>46925213
>They should replace notes with little plastic chips equipped with RFID tags.
Y-you mean credit cards?

>>46925273
No, I mean casino-like read-only plastic chips. Just smaller. Secure and water-proof and almost indestructible (unless you are exposed to an EMP or something).

>>46925303
How on earth is that better than cash?

>>46925364
How is it worse? Paper cash is unhygienic, for instance. I'd rather use a bunch of hexagonal plastic chips which come in neon colors.

>>46924647
>>46923919
>Find out that my country runs bottle recycling machines on Redhat
>ATM's run on a 14 year old unsupported OS

It's like I'm living in bizzaro world...

>>46925378
you sir are a fucking retard.

>>46925381
Banks have special needs... For example, math libs without rounding imprecisions.

>>46923894
>paper currency still has to be perfectly flat and inserted face-up
Maybe in clapistan.
Bonger notes work fine no matter the orientation.

>>46925204
>>46925194
I live in europe and it's free. You must be a moron to pay for compressed air

>>46925441

but it's not actually free, it's yuropean """"free""""

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Fucking drive thru speakers.
It's 20 fucking 15. I can talk to someone in almost real time HD audio on the other side of the world but I can't understand the fucker 10 feet away in the restaurant taking my order.
What the fuck is up with this shit?

>>46923894
My bank has an ATM that cashes and deposits checks. It also can take stacks of bills at a time.

>>46925483
Those speakers see a lot of vandalism, so they get ruggedized to withstand rain and spit and piss at the cost of sound quality. That, and also the employees on the other are using $2 headsets.

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>>46924059
>most advanced country in the world

>>46925429
That's a fairly reasonable need. There are off the shelf libraries for this tho.

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>>46925117

>>46925483
because animals in your country demolish anything not built to withstand a hurrcaine

>>46925020

It's 50$ here in Canadaland (Just under 40 USD at the current exchanged rate).

>>46925213
>>46925221

"Paper" currency is actually made of a type of cloth.

The American Dollar is actually pretty well engineered. They get much longer lifetime out of their dollars than most other cloth-based currency.

>>46925441

But you're probably paying for gas, grabbing a coffee or a water bottle and some jerky or something inside, though.

Selling something at a loss is a very standard way of getting a customer. That's why certain products like yogurt are always on sale at grocery stores. People go where the sale is and then just purchase all their groceries there.

>>46927898

Actually, legally they are required to turn on the machine to give you air if you ask.

>>46924647
>>46925381
Windows Embedded is actually still supported via security updates. In fact, there's a registry hack where you can still get updates for XP if you make it look like embedded.

>>46925454
This is always funny. Please continue.
>FREE UNIVERSAL HEALTH-CARE
>30 % vat

>>46927991

>Be from Quebec
>People always talk about how great universal health care is, blah blah blah
>Wait 36 hours in an ER with dysentery, something that needs a grant total of <5 minutes of work for treatment
>Sat across from a guy with a broken clavicle who waited 28 hours
>Guy sitting next to him waited ~24 hours with his severed thumb in a ziplock bag of what used to be ice

Lowest income tax bracket in Quebec ends up being 30% (combined federal + provincial). Have both a Goods and Service Tax as well as a Quebec Sales Tax and you actually pay taxes on the act of paying taxes for it.

Moving out of that shithole was the best decision I ever made.

>>46925454
>""""free""""
How to quote : "in"out"in" free (out)"in"out"in"
In other words,you failed, go back to school

>>46925213
We have that here, it's called a Debit card, no borrowing money as you're spending what ever you have.

I tend to use my Visa Debit card quite often.

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I still have to use a VCR because my video camera uses tapes. Plus I have Jurassic Park for it.

>>46924001
underrated post

It's 2015 and I have never in my life seen a vending machine that accepts notes.

Rural welsh valleys.

>>46923966
it has nothing to do with that. you are fucking retarded.

>>46928225
Your phone records better video.

>>46928483
My video camera has some high quality optical zoom though. Also easier to show a lot of people since it displays on the TV.

>>46925117
Lol this

>>46928530

Chromecast?

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>>46925117

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>>46925441
It's free in Fatmerica too if you get your fat arse out the car and ask the casheir polietly to turn the machine on.

>>46923894
its only the legacy and the cheaply made machines that have a problem with this. Most modern systems do not have issues with currency and can accept many bills at once that are not perfectly ironed

>>46924647
Embedded still gets support