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what college you went to anon?

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what college you went to anon?
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>>46838605
Johns Hopkins
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A UC.
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>>46838605
>tfw c++ courses from cc won't transfer to uni in the fall
halp pls :(
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Harvard
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>>46838686
What kind of shitty college spends an entire semester just to learn c++?
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Academy of the NEET.
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>>46838736
Same here, brother.
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>>46838697
>>cc
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Nice try, NSA
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>>46838736
>>46838771

what do you guys do with your lives -_-
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>>46838784
disappoint their parents
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>>46838784
Well, I currently lift weights and play video games all day.
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Binghamton University. Should have went to CC for the first two years and would have had 40k more right now
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>>46838605

Twist: This is an iOS development course
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>>46838804
My nigga. I got there as well. Currently a senior
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>>46838686
community college is a meme, sorry you fell for it
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Cunt
tfw 2broke4private
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>>46838814
are you us. I bet I know you.
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>>46838814
I meant CS
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>>46838840
What are you majoring in? Are you that guy I met in Hinman's dining hall?
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>>46838853
I'm bioengineering
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>>46838863
Lol I go to hinman for dinner but I haven't met anyone there that would be from 4chan.
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Armstrong State University currently
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>>46838878
He was a nice person and played a ton of CS. That's about it.
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>>46838872
you probably know one of my friends. But I don't think I'm going to say his name on here.
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Great Plains College (electrical)

SAIT and NAIT to finish High Voltage Electrical
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>>46838605
After hs i was hired into computers

now i am a computer
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ASU
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>>46838913
What does his name start with?
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>>46838605
Currently first year at McMaster, b tech
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Get a room, faggots
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Berkeley

My CS classes almost look like that, it's just that not everyone uses a laptop during lecture. A ton of people have Macs
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UAB

>tfw no futbol
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Graduated from UCLA 2013.
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>>46838962
S-same. I'm actually rather ashamed to admit it in person since I have a crappy job.
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>>46838605
>college
Lifetime debt doesn't sound very fun
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>>46839137
are you me? it took me 10 months just to get a job that pays half the industry average for someone with my degree...
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La FIU.
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>>46839155
you're doin it wrong.
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>>46839155
>being an art student
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RIT
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>>46839408
Got accepted. Seems like a school for neckbeards
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>>46839408
>mfw considering going to RIT this fall
Is it comfy there? Seems real fucking cold, I don't think I could survive.
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>>46838784
Make money and look cute
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>>46838605
carnegie mellon
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>>46839452
it really fucking is...I'm also in Game Design, so I'm pretty much surrounded by faggots. I like it well enough though.
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>>46839466
It is cold as fuck, but there's tunnels between academic buildings, and you will probably never leave the res hall buildings during your first year. I love it here, a lot of people knock it because of the huge number of neckbeards and retards, but pretty good technical education/ pretty chill uni culture.
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I went to the school in that pic.

University of Missouri, class of 12.

Majored in English (lol), my plan to be a professional novelist, columnist, and Hollywood screenwriter didn't work out (lol), writan websites for a living now. Thank god for /g/.
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UC
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Currently attending the University of Tennessee.
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Uni of New South Wales, then Sydney uni. Now doing PhD at UNSW
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>>46839528
Alright, I'll keep that in mind when making a decision.

>>46839628
That could mean anything.
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University of Arkansas

BS programming.. weee
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>>46838960
I go to UAB too.
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The University of Tennessee.

State Schools are cheap, and lottery scholarships can basically fund the whole damn thing
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>>46839605
>University of Missouri

You should've gone to UMR (or whatever they are calling it these days), bro.
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Dropped out of RPI. Not a NEET and actually successful anyway. Being good with computers/good at programming is like living life on easy mode, what the fuck is your excuse for living in your parents' basement?
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>>46838605
that college
Mizzou
barely passed accounting in that room
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ECSU (CT)
csc major
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UC San Diego

5 minutes to the nude beach, 10 minutes to the normal beach, yet I've never once been to either
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CSUN
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Community College
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>>46839408
>>46839466
>>46839528

I'm an RIT grad and I liked it quite a bit. It is tons of nerds and neckbeard clubs and all, but was pretty fun. I hear the changed to semesters now instead of quarters too so its probably less intense now.

Weather is shit, if you aren't from the area you are in for a ride. I once saw a dude from the area offering to help teach people to get their cars out of the parking lot. Went to ask me if I needed help and saw my ohio plates and was like, oh nvm you got this.

Also the tunnels are great, but dorms and campus are not tunneled, you will have to walk the quarter mile between them and then tunnel around on either side nonstop until you go back the other way.
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I'm at university right now
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>>46838605
LSU
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>>46838605
>Not pointing out the yellow shirt guy with pen and paper.
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IIT
Chicago is an... interesting place.
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>>46840322
Community College grad here, I regret nothing.
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>>46840317
i went to csun way back when
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City College of New York
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Seton Hall
>mfw the finance major on /g/
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>>46840326
>coldest place I've ever been is Tahoe
I'm royally fucked.
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>>46838605
>Been going to a cc for 4 years
I know
>Today checked uni status
>ACCEPTED
Cal Poly here I come
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>>46840368
you're not supposed to graduate from cc, you're supposed to go there as long as you can then transfer to a school with better name recognition
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>>46839720
Mah nigga. That's where I go. Computer Engineering.
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>>46838605
That picture makes me cringe. And I own a fucking Macbook Air. I do want to get rid of it though.
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>>46840455
It's required to own a macbook if you want to go to Mizzou.
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>>46840463
Is that actually true?
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>>46840408
Grats dude. I want to get into Cal Poly but I seriously doubt I'll get accepted.

>tfw I have to settle for lesser education
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UIUC
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>>46839155
That's why I dropped out into a full time programming job where I don't use any of the crap I learned.
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>>46840481
Thanks

As long as you apply to non impacted majors you should be fine, man. I have some friends that got in with ~2.5's and my gpa wasn't spectacular by any means. Good luck.
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>>46840527
>ugh why do I have to learn about algorithms and data structures I just want to make fizzbuzz and apps!
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>>46838605
This is some dystopian future kind of shit, yo
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>>46838605
>liberal arts colleges
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>>46840463
>>46840471
Stop spreading FUD nigga.
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>>46840219
Currently go to RPI for CS/CE
It's pretty nice once you get used to the astounding amount of people straight from cringe threads.
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Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

>not /g/
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>>46840376
What major?

>got accepted
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Im a freshman at the University of Houston. Computer Engineering major. How fucked am I?
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>>46840812
I got offered a full ride there but rejected it.
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>>46838605
University of Illinois

Our niggers, much like our squirrels, are no longer afair of human beings.
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>>46840874
how does it feel to be a redneck
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>>46840865
lol you are probably one ugly bastard
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>>46840874
Fuck you! GO COOOGS
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>>46840891
I wouldn't know
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>>46840874
>Ass To Mouth college
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>>46840926
That's Ass To Mouth University to you.
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I'm a high school dropout.

But thanks for the free money, applefags.
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>engineering degree
>have to take a unit of computer science
>90% of the room uses pen and paper
I dont understand
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>>46840945
My Professor outlawed digital devices in his data structure class.
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>>46840945
Computer science isn't about computers
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>>46840945
Are you retarded?
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any of you cunts go to macquarie in sydney?
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UAlbany

Complete shithole
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>>46840978
Can you teach me how to learn java on paper?
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>>46841005
Why the fuck are you writing java during lecture? You should be taking notes you fagtron.
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Swinburne University of Technology.
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>>46841005
I learned java on paper in high school
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>>46841033
I dont think I mentioned a lecture
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>>46838820
Hate to say it, but it's fucking true. I transferred from a CC to a UNI, and although I had a 4.0 in what little engineering coursework I could take at the CC, basically without studying, i'm getting fucking raped at UNI now.
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>>46841061
>90% of the room uses pen and paper
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Louisiana Tech, Chem E
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>>46841063
Maybe you're just retarded. I barely put in any effort and get all A's.
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>>46841066
Do you take tutorials outside or something?
A room doesnt mean a lecture you spastic
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>>46841063
>without studying I'm doing poor in class

No shit idiot, college isn't fucking high school, you can't fuck off and still get A's. You need to study.
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>>46841079
>tutorials
That is literally what a lecture is.
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Vanderbilt
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>>46841092
Where the fuck did you study, thats wrong

Lecture is the auditorium with the couple hundred seats
Tutorial is a room like a highschool class where you go over what you learnt and apply it
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Marquette
Good thing my parents and grandpa are loaded
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>>46841005
>implying learning computer science is about writing code
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Cal Poly Pomona.

Graduating in 3 weeks right into my 70k job.
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>>46840721
I was just looking through my alumni magazine the other day, even the people they deem normal enough to publish photos of are cringe worthy.
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Lehigh university. Greek life/comp sci masterrace. Jk greek life at lehigh is a gay clusterfuck. Girls are supremely hit and entitled. Administration spent the last two years trying to make campus more politically correct and "inclusive."

>any party that has a theme that could be considered objectifying or racist is immediate expulsion.
>even if accidental
>even if someone you dont know.shows up in costume and takes a picture at your party.

If you like to have fun and fuck shit up, dont go there. Awesome education and got a great job though so can't complain too much.

Anyway

>taking network security class
>learn all kinds of fun stuff
>some brothers in the house had their own routers for gaming and high speed pron
>ettercap and poison router with wildcard redirects (*.net, *.com, etc).
>lol every single navigation attempt redirected to goatse.
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>going to college
Parents paid off house, got a salary job $4000/mo doing piss easy work and yearly bonus of 10% earned.
Life is about connections, my brothers graduated in accounting and business administration, both of them are still jobless.
They think they're too good to start from the bottom because they got a piece of paper.
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>>46840334
I may as well add something.
Who else full ride here?
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>>46841254
What major?
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>>46841367
I make 1k per week doing part time IT consulting 3 days a week. Making money in tech is a fucking joke if you have a pretty face and can present yourself.

Also I absolutely agree about connections, connections can get you anywhere. Connections and networking is literally how my part time it work survives
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>>46841399
Feels bad living in a country where there's not many full ride scholarships. Only one I could see was really competitive and you had to be a community leader, who excels in art and sports as well as being smart. I got a free semester though.
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Texas, ECE Major
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Anyone else here at wustl?
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>>46841444
Computer Engineering. Was gonna do software but once you get over the learning curve of FPGAs, digital systems are so much more fun.
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How large are everyones' average class, is OP's image normal? My lectures have around 15-20 students in them.
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>>46841615
I have one class that large.
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INFO SHILL PLS GO
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>>46841615
My first year classes were that large, now they're about 2/3 of that size. I'm in New Zealand if that helps.
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>>46838605
>that kid that took his notes without digital device
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>>46839466

>cold

For goodness sake you realize there's an entire country north of the US right?
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>>46841615
At Berkeley the introductory CS class has over 1000 people in it
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Macquarie University in Sydney

Bachelor of Economics
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>>46841063
On the contrary, I actually learned stuff in CC, while at uni I dont learn shit, even though the classes are incredibly tough. Whats the biggest joke is that technical schools are viewed as the biggest joke, but they are the schools in which you actually learn how to do things.

>inb4 whatever stupid comment you are about to reply with about me being retarded
Dont care. Will have my bs in cs at the end of the summer. fuck off.
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>>46841666
Yes
doesn't change that upstate NY is fuckin cold
I was in Rochester for a summer and had to wear a jacket all the time
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>>46841696
>going to the University of Cuckifornia
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>>46841666

In America, we skip that place on our maps and just have a zoomed-in picture of Alaska where it would be.

Can't really blame him for not knowing about it, even immigrants overlook it and they are much nicer to them I hear.
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>>46841696
It's essentially a MOOC, right? How can they seriously expect to teach a course of 1k people any way other than as a MOOC?
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>>46841749
Apparently they have TAs who do labs and shit, but when I took the class I never went to lecture or anything. I just did the assignments and took the tests.
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Is it true that you can tell the quality of education by the amount of female students?
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>>46841775
no
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>>46841775
Yes.
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>>46841666
Does knowing about cold places somehow make relatively cold places feel warmer?
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>>46841775
no
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Chaffey Community College
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>>46841775
maybe
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>>46841774
Well I kind of understand having TAs, but they must have enough TAs that their meetings look like a typical undergrad class (ie they have to have like ~20-50 TAs managing that many students).

The alternative is a strictly programmatic grading system where code just gets run in a sandbox and your grade is the sum of your lab scores.

How do they even proctor a midterm for 1000 people? Where I am I think we split exams into two places, but that's barely manageable from what I hear, and it's not even half the size of that class.
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>>46841804
might aswell of gone to valley, fag
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>>46840945
Depends on the class. Regardless, the lectures are for discussing theory and showing demos and examples. If you're dealing heavily with data structures and algorithms, you need to be able to draw out figures and math which is impractical to write out quickly on a computer.

I use a tablet with an active stylus myself. In most classes I take handwritten notes (or mark-up powerpoint PDFs sometimes, depending on the difficulty of the class and the importance of the teacher's actual lecture notes), and in others I use a bluetooth keyboard and write up notes in Markdown.
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University of Turku

Can I get a job in the States now? Foreign unis are exotic and all.
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>>46841809
Yes, all the assignments were autograded. Why the fuck would you do anything else?
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>>46841714

>had to wear a jacket in 80F degree weather

I would get yourself checked out for an extremely serious, if not lethal case of hypothyroidism. What the hell would you do at University of Minnesota?

>>46841794

Let me put it to you this way. Once you get adapted to the cold and recognize that it's really not that bad, you'll man up a bit. We're just clearing a bout of 0F degrees for the high in central Wisconsin right now and some people are wearing sweaters in 30F degree weather.
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>>46841833
In an ideal world, to give feedback on mistakes and point out flaws in reasoning demonstrated by the code?
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University of Washington. Top 50, m8s
Feelsgoodman
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>>46841775
niggers
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>>46841850
You shouldn't have mistakes when you turn in an assignment. If you don't get full marks then you should go to office hours and ask for help and fix it before its due.
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RMIT Melbourne.
Bachelor of Information Technology.
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>>46841865
While the specifications for an assignment will generally be clear, the test cases TAs use will generally not be provided (at least at my undergrad - another UC - and at my grad university that's how it is). In these cases, you might not anticipate a certain test, and an assumption or corner-cutting in your assignment might cause your code to fail the test.

If students just invariably had perfect submissions (either on their own or after unspecified time in office hours) there would be no point in running their code in the first place; just check if the student submitted code at all and give them full marks if they did, or none if they didn't.
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>>46841875
>RMIT
>mfw
>not going to Monash
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>>46841924
Well obviously not everyone will have perfect submissions because some people just don't give a fuck, but there is literally no reason to not get a perfect score if you want one.
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Anyone that pays $15,000+ for general education courses at a university rather than a community college is wasting money.
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>>46841851
>UoW
How comfy is it?
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Will be starting at Colorado School of Mines
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>>46841960
Like I said before, people often get hit with test cases they didn't anticipate, so they write code that works in the 5 or 10 unit tests they came up with but didn't imagine various edge cases and their code didn't handle it. You can dismiss these students as not wanting it badly enough, but if they thought they were finished then they just didn't realize there was more work to be done. Or they struggle to understand something but don't (maybe can't, maybe just won't) go to office hours.

I think you're determined to conclude that students are not entitled to feedback on their assignments, and I'm not sure why you're taking that stance other than that you never got it when you were an undergrad. But you got a suboptimal learning experience; people don't pay $15k/year in tuition on the assumption that they'll be a nameless face taking what is essentially an online course. You could take that at a community college, or through edX or Coursera or something, and pay a reasonable fee for the attention you get.

Berkeley and other top tier schools merit the high bar for admission and the tuition (especially for out-of-state and international students) on the promise that they are offering an education worthy of the name and the price of tuition. At upper div and graduate levels, they're generally delivering on that promise, but lower div courses are coming up short.
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>>46841992
Good thing I APed out of most of my gen ed requirements and my uni charges by the semester and not by the unit.
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>>46838605
guise, it's called university not college
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>>46841992
This is what I did and it was nice. In California if you transfer to a UC the GPA from your community college doesn't follow you either; it just dies upon entry. Makes it a lot easier to graduate with latin honors and whatnot if you're not dealing with general ed courses in subjects you're not generally interested in.
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>>46842071
Seriously? If you aren't passing the test cases and are too retarded to figure out why, then you can just go to the office hours and ask for help like I fucking said. In the real world there aren't magical test cases written for you anyway, so this idea is entirely retarded but they have to or else the poor babbys will drop out and the college won't get their money anymore.

And I don't honestly see why having LESS people in a lecture hall is good at all anyway. Whethere there are 30 people or 300 people in the room they are all going to have a good view of the projector and be able to hear the professor clearly as long as there is a decent AV system. The only difference is that with more people you might actually have people asking questions instead of just sitting there and listening to some old far talk for 2 hours.
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>>46838605
I'm currently going to NM Tech, but the CS department is really starting to go to shit. Any New Mexico fags know how UNM's CS department is these days? (I'm currently in my 4th out of an expected 9 semesters)
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>>46842106
>>46842106

Conversely you're probably going to get better grades in the general ed and lower-level courses than in the more in-depth subject matter that comes later, so it may only boost your GPA to take them at your university.
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>Be me
>sophomore UIUC
>Division of general faggotry
>mfw take 2 semesters of chem102
Shit I just failed my midterm.
I was promised CS and I got a rock.
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>>46842139
I don't know how much clearer I can be about test cases not being provided in advance, so
>if you aren't passing the test cases
is sort of a posteriori thing. It's exactly because of this stuff that you want feedback on your assignments, to point out what you did wrong.

And this is to say nothing of the fact that if every student needed just 10 minutes with the TA on a weekly basis, it'd take 167 hours to work through everyone. You'd need a minimum of 9-17 TAs (depending on if they're doing 50% or 25% TAships) doing nothing but holding office hours. While 100% of the class needing office hours is by far overestimated, 10 minutes per person is egregiously underestimating how much time they'd need.
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>>46842229
>submit project
>get score
>if you don't like the score, fix it and submit again
>repeat until satisfied with score or the deadline passes
How hard of a concept is this for you to understand? And the vast majority of students are capable of figuring shit out just fine on their own. I don't know why you are pulling this 10 minutes every week for every student out of your ass. Probably like 10% of students at max ever goes to office hours.
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>>46842206
I've never heard of anyone getting boosted by the gen ed courses they had to take, but I guess.

These courses constitute the foundational coursework for other majors, so they tend to be at least rigorous enough that majors in Bio, Chem, etc... can build on the material taught there. Those are the courses you have to take to round yourself out, and if you're not interested in Chem or English in the first place, you're probably going to have trouble getting invested intellectually.

Also (and this was my experience, so maybe it was the quarter system I was in, or maybe it was something else) upper div courses are where the really interesting stuff tends to be.
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Pacific Lutheran University (google it). Small liberal arts college in the middle of nowhere. Gave me a ton of aid money. Currently CS.

Fun fact, we're getting a lot of people trying to transfer from the University of Washington. Apparently you can't get into the CS program up there unless you're a rich entitled fuck who spews Node.js everywhere.
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>>46842257
Not the guy your responding to but for my gen ed I did video production, it was all just group work and since I teamed up with this chick who wanted to major in film I just sat back and let them do all the major work while I chilled with the camera. Got me a free A+.
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>>46842210
Also I hav all As in my Cs courses.
>2.9 GPA
Fuck me.
Fuck college.
>Cs community is spoiled with macfags. >Community is toxic.
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>>46842256
Wait, you have the option to resubmit your assignments for a full regrade? This sounds even more like you're just doing Coursera or CodeAcademy lessons.

Also, it sounds like if 90% of students have no need for office hours then there's room to make the course more challenging. Or if it's intentionally easy, why even make it a real course (as opposed to an online MOOC that you complete and verify or something)?

I'm not seeing a compelling argument for this course having the same status as a course where a TA looks at your work and responds on an individual basis to your work (ie smaller courses). This sounds increasingly like it should just be a requirement that students take a community college or online course and verify their completion before proceeding to upper divs. Is there something intrinsic to this course you never attended that you couldn't have gotten online or at a community college?
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>>46842298
Group work is a scourge, but if you weren't going to learn anything you should have just taken cc courses and transferred the units. You essentially paid full tuition to coast under the radar.
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>Cornell
>full scholarship
>CS
It's al right
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>>46840304
Hey man, I barely step out of Warren college.

I'm pretty sure I've only traversed like 10% of the entire campus, never mind La Jolla.
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>>46842361
It was do that or something like philosophy, I enjoyed it better than the philosophy gen ed I did. Is cc community college? I'm not from the US so that doesn't really apply.
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>>46842361
Most colleges charge you by the semester, not by the unit.
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>>46838605
USC cinema
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anu
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>>46838605
aeiou
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>>46842395
Yeah sorry, community college*. I see.

I understand the motivation to get students well-rounded but they should give you options to get that rounding somewhere else, like at a much cheaper local college. Space at research universities is limited, and wasting classroom space and professors' time on intro and survey courses turns out to be a real drain.

The only exception to this that I've seen has been when a department had a practice of having their best instructors teach the intro courses as a sort of guarantee that all students in the field would learn the fundamentals correctly and not from someone who half-assed it.

For the most part however, underpaid and overworked adjuncts who have no leverage get forced into teaching these mega-classes because the full professors only want to teach smaller upper div and graduate level courses (if anything), and the associate professors are understandably working their asses off trying to secure tenure.
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>>46842397
But your general education requirements amount to more than a semester's worth of work, don't they? One could go to a local college and clear those out for a few hundred dollars for tuition *and* books, and come back and focus on the program's courses.
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>>46842502
Good luck getting into any decent university through community college. And non-techs are a joke anyway. I took them in semesters where I couldn't fill up my schedule with technicals because of prereqs. If you really wanted to save your precious shekels you could just take them over the summer.
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>>46838605
Sullivan University in Louisville Kentucky. Unless you're a chef you've probably never heard of them. Their IT curriculum is decent, but they're really known for culinary arts.
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>>46842336
I'm the original person you responded to. I took the class a year ago when it had somewhere around 800-900 people or so.

No, you do not have the option to resubmit your assignments. What that guy means is that the autograder for your projects will return the number of points you'll likely get, and if you aren't getting the full points then you keep working on it until you do, up until the deadline.

It is not an easy course. You'll likely get full points on the projects and homeworks if you're a good student and do your work, but most of your grade is determined by tests. The semester I took it the averages on all tests were around 50%. There is no curve in this class, only a hard grading scale out of 300 points. Projects are more meant as a tool for learning.

In my experience, office hours were often packed around project time and midterm time. The halls of the CS building would be lined with students in this class working on their projects.

TAs lead discussions and labs of around 30-40 people. I grew pretty close to mine and added him on Facebook later. This isn't a MOOC, it was never meant to be. It's just a really really big class because everyone at Berkeley wants to jump into CS due to the high amount of attention we get from tech companies, and we're shallow and want the dollars.
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>>46842526
I'm at Stanford for grad school so I don't really agree with the notion that you can't get from a community college to a good university.
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>>46841037
hey mate
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>>46842562
Do you know anyone at Berkeley? How likely is it to get into Computer Science there from a community college?
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>>46842622
Every transfer student I met was pretty dumb so you're probably fine.
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>>46842560
Thanks for clarifying. I still have concerns/questions, like
- How do they logistically handle 900 exams, especially given the importance they assign these exams by weighting them heavily?
- The description of office hours around midterms sounds like a Russian breadline.

I understand the idealistic response that students should be checking in more frequently, but as a former undergrad I also get that this stuff isn't a high priority until it becomes a high priority, and it'd be better for everyone if there were a way for students to get help when they needed it.

Going back to the calculations of TA time for students, assuming everyone had a pretty good sense of the subject and just wanted to check in for a question or 2 (and taking 5-10 minutes), it would still absolutely slam the schedules of the TAs.

At some point I think we just have to accept that when a course becomes popular enough that 400-900 people register for it, you either need to split the course up into several sections, limit enrollment to those deemed worthy, or change how you teach, because the method of teaching the intro CS course - most likely first imagined in general terms in the 90s or earlier - is absolutely not the right approach for a course 10 or 100 times the size of those courses they were first designed to handle.

I happen to be a big fan of farming out the stuff that's necessarily becoming boilerplate to enable the course to scale. Whether that involves asking everyone to take an online course, or to enroll in a summer class before coming to college (or between academic years if someone wants to enter the major), or whatever else isn't super critical in my book.
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>>46838810
It's not. It's the photojournalism school at the University of Missouri.

I know some of the people who were in that class.
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>>46842622
It's doable but it's far from a sure thing. When I was applying I found the UC stats data informative. For example, Berkeley's transfer admit rate in 2014 was 25%. Their freshman admit rate was 17% (~19% if you just count California residents). I can't find stuff broken down by major though; I'm pretty sure there's too much fluctuation for any stats they'd have to mean much anyway.
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>>46840874

My friend goes to that fucking school. He says it's filled with faggots and retards that are rich entitled assholes sucking daddy's cock for beer money. OH, and all the teachers are fucking cunt niggers.
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>>46842711
>Mizzou students
Why are there always so many of us on /g/? This poorfag school has awful CS and engineering departments.
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>>46842762
Davis might be the most extreme: 60% admit rate vs 40% admit rate. Irvine's spread is 48% vs 35%. LA is 30% vs 18%. San Diego is 46% vs 33%.

UCs have a minimum GPA of 2.4 for transfer students. That's not enough to get you in anywhere, but it should illustrate how much lower the bar is set. If you went to a reasonably good high school you'll probably find that the difference in workload at a community college isn't enough to shock you.

And this is saying nothing about transfer guarantees, which you can sign with any UC except Berkeley and LA and literally guarantee you a spot at one of the other UCs as long as you keep your GPA above some paltry threshold and bother to apply when the time comes.
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>>46842681
Exams are either split into multiple rooms with the TAs proctoring each room or it's in one big auditorium. There's multiple versions of the test because it's honestly easy to cheat otherwise. You put down who you're sitting next to, so I assume there may be some sort of check for cheating but I'm not sure.

Yes, it is basically a Russian breadline. The TAs really bust their asses to try and help everyone. It only gets really crowded 1-2 days before the deadline though. If you go a few days before you'll have no problem getting help, but that requires you to start early and not everyone does.

One thing I forgot to mention is that we use Piazza a lot. It cuts down the load on TAs by quite a significant amount. Students help each other out and you can get answers to questions you have at like 2AM because some other poor student (or TA) is also online.

(If you're not familiar it's basically a question and answer site for every class and you can search through all the questions your peers ask)

As for what you said about splitting the course into sections: they attempt to do this by having TAs teach discussion and lab, where most of the active learning is. The professor teaches lecture which introduces you to material, and discussion and lab is where you apply it. You obviously won't get personal time with the professor though, you'll have to go to their office hours for that.
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>>46842894
We don't actually check for copying unless it's insanely obvious and you are caught during the test. The questions are all the same but just in a different order.
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>>46841928

Ausbros!! I'm at Melbourne doing the JD
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>tfw no money for school when young so now i have to go to school while i'm working in my late 20s
feels batman, but at least i know it will be over soon and i will be finally able to apply for my dream job
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>>46842894
Yeah I'm familiar with piazza and a lot of these tactics to mitigate courses that scale to unmanageable sizes, but these all sound like mitigating tactics. The professor is giving a talk to 300+ students (with 600+ either never hearing the lecture because they don't bother to attend, or watching it later online), exams are offered in various places and using different versions because cheating is too easy otherwise, etc...

At this point, it seems like it would make more sense to
- have the instructor record all their lectures once in peak form and offer them online (many universities already do this)
- have TAs and maybe even the professor essentially hold discussion sections throughout the week to address questions, but not to teach material already covered in the prepared video
- use Piazza (which leverages peers) to get students feedback and answer questions
- move away from exams entirely (large scale testing requires logistical undertaking that would make Noah getting a bunch of animals into an Ark seem trivial) and towards assignments (either evaluated automatically or with fewer, larger assignments).

I'm curious just as an aside whether exams measure anything worthwhile in CS. The only scenario in a CS career where you'd be under the gun like that would be in an interview, and my intuition is that getting students to talk out their thought process (e.g. in a discussion with a TA) would be more realistic training for a whiteboard interview than sitting in a room with 400 other people nervously scribbling proofs.
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