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How many of you have moved partially or completely away from 'cloud' providers? The last year I've been slowly itching my way away but curious who else has done this. The increase in privacy is nice but the tradeoff in usability seems huge.
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>moved partially or completely away from 'cloud' providers

I've never used a "cloud" service
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It's easy to avoid all of these. Some examples

>chrome
Firefox
>apple
literally anything else
>ghostery
ublock
>teamspeak
mumble
>utorrent
transmission
>android
don't use gapps
>foobar
cmus
>opera
firefox
>mirc
irssi
>netflix
torrents
>ubuntu
debian
>lastpass
keepassx

etc

What do you mean cloud providers? Even if you don't store "your" data on cloud servers, you're still reliant on them via centralized shit like google, etc.
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>>46613393
That's great. What do you use instead for common tasks? (Email, file sync, etc.) Looking for alternatives to what I'm currently using.
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>>46613346
Wow i just realised i don't use anything on that list, where's my prize?
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How in the hell is foobar2000 botnet?
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>>46613428
>no flash, no android, no intel chips, no kikebook, no paypal, no google services
ur a liar
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>>46613417
I host my own email server and use my own VPN for things like file syncing.
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>>46613393
>I've never used a "cloud" service
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>>46613441
Just wondering that myself. Someone please explain
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/g/ says everything is a botnet. Just because something phones home doesn't make it a botnet.

>2015
>Not having a threat model
The NSA can have my Amazon password. What are they going to do?
>buy things with my credit card
>see my order history
Oh fuck! Call the cops!

You have zero seconds to explain why I shouldn't use LastPass. I don't store my email password in there, but I do store everything else in it. Hard mode: don't accuse LastPass of having a backdoor / way to revail plaintext passwords without knowing the master password.

Twitter is not a botnet. How on earth is Twitter a botnet?

Spotify uses your upload bandwidth for its free service. Don't like it? Don't use it. My listening is a mix of 90% locally stored music and 10% Spotify. I have bandwidth to spare.

On what planet is Netflix a botnet?
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>>46613813
Haven't you heard, everything's a botnet! /s
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>>46613346
>>46613346
Fuck I wish I had seen this a few hours ago. I just installed Crouton on my chromebook. I went one botnet to another. Is crouton the exact same as Ubuntu?
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Everything is "the cloud". it means nothing. It's like when /g/ calls something a botnet.

All this criticism is just retardation being given too much free reign to post.
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I can't believe I uninstalled Ghostery because of this thread. I already had ublock installed but are they overlapping functions?
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>>46613966
is the '/s' really all that fucking necessary? when did /g/ become so god damn autistic
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>>46614065
because reddit
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>>46614058
Firefox privacy guide

Passive Edition:
>uBlock, be sure to disallow non-intrusive ads and add the EasyPrivacy and social blocking lists it offers.
>HTTPS-Everywhere
>Blender
>network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy 1
>network.cookie.cookieBehavior 1
>network.prefetch-next false
>network.dns.disablePrefetch false
>dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled false
>malware.enabled off
>safebrowsing.enabled off

Some work required:
>Self Destructing Cookies
>Flashblock

Autism Edition:
>NoScript
>Policeman

These things will improve your privacy but mostly from the websites themselves and possibly people that are not the NSA watching your tubes.

If you want actual anonymity you're going to have to use Tor or Tails. A VPN will also work if you only want to be anonymous from the various websites you visit.
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>>46614065
>>46614071
Redditors are literal retards who downvote you if you don't mark your sarcasm.

The civilized 4channers know to think critically about the meaning behind every post, and think that /s ruins perfectly good jokes and makes the poster look foolish.
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>>46614065
Not him, but see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

If there needs to be a wikipedia article about how easily people misread sarcasm on the internet, I think it's fair game to make it abundantly clear when you're sarcastic.
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>>46614073
Kay so some of those are about:config stuff tell me more about those and does the policeman plugin have a hard learning curve to be autism or is it just the amount of control it has making it autistic?
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>>46614082
>The civilized 4channers
>know to think critically about the meaning behind every post
This is that sarcasm you meant, right?
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>>46614100
You have to go through tons of cross site requests for data on like every website so unless you wanna spend up to an entire minute on every website configuring the cross site requests, don't bother.
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>>46614125
Okay, I don't agree with the NoScript being under Autism but maybe I'm just used to it now.
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>>46614117
I mean, if you're smart you actually do consider the humor possibilities of a post being a joke rather than just being retarded.

But most 4channers and redditors don't think that hard and get baited more easily than a carp.
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>>46614146
4chan has too strong a trolling culture for people to engage seriously. Someone could tell you that they support/use/like X and if you oppose/eschew/dislike X then you have trouble understanding why they disagree with you. Rather than put oneself in their shoes, people on 4chan just assume they're getting trolled.
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>>46614247
kek
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I crossed off quite a few and didnt get a bingo.

feels good to not be a faggot stuck in the botnet.
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If you have a hard drive you are part of the NSA botnet.
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>>46614347
To be added in version 3.2!
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>>46614073
>uBlock, be sure to disallow non-intrusive ads and add the EasyPrivacy and social blocking lists it offers
There is no "non-intrusive ads" setting in uBlock, and EasyPrivacy is already selected.
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>>46614347
This
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>>46613346
Uhhh don't fucking tell me that Bitcomet is still in use. It's 2015.

>Adobe
Foxit reader is slowly becoming botnet too. Glorious sumatra master race
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basically I think people need to accept that at this point in time if you use any sort of computer technology whatsoever you're being monitored whether you know it or not.
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>>46613346
r8 & h8

Also, lastpass is not botnet faggot.
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>>46613813

Amazon, Spotify and Netflix have algorithms to determine what you would like according to what you've buyed/listened/watched
>implying this doesn't means some sort of profiling
>implying they don't secretly cooperate with some government agency for the sake of profits

Twitter is a botnet my friend, the mexican government had the peñabot network to spread positive propanda about our current president and identify rebels. Why was this allowed? No one knows, but if this happened in my 3rd world country I can imagine what happens up north with you.

>If you have done nothing wrong you should have nothing to hide.
If I've done nothing wrong there's no reason to search me.

>But I dont have anything to hide :^)
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/

ayy
nice try shill
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>>46614853
Good goy, give us all of your passwords!
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>>46615206

>Amazon, Spotify and Netflix have algorithms to determine what you would like according to what you've buyed/listened/watched
>>implying this doesn't means some sort of profiling
>>implying they don't secretly cooperate with some government agency for the sake of profits

as if you are of any interest to the government lol

>Twitter is a botnet my friend, the mexican government had the peñabot network to spread positive propanda about our current president and identify rebels. Why was this allowed? No one knows, but if this happened in my 3rd world country I can imagine what happens up north with you.

that's pretty benign and what happens in your 3rd world country probably wont go over so well elsewhere

>>But I dont have anything to hide :^)
>https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/

lol tl;dr
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Why does the /g/ wiki recommend ghostery and other shit that's denounced in this thread?
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>>46615264
>lol tl;dr
sigh* whatever it's your choice, if you want to be spoonfed all the information in a summary you'll have to understand that entropy will arise in some way or another, you'll need to read fully to generate a proper opinion.
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skype
steam
google service (gmail & youtube)

how am I ?
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>>46615264
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>>46614853
That's right, keep all your secret info in the cloud. No chance big bother could ever see it, nope.
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>>46615288
Stay away from Ghostery. Their company plays a dual role in advertising. Ghostery blocks sites from getting your info but it takes note of ads blocked, and sends that info to advertisers so they can change their ads to avoid being blocked. This is why everyone is getting away from them.
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>>46615294
why do you feel its your right to have privacy on the internet? has any of this nsa stuff actually affected you in any way? is it possible you're just young and caught up in being edgy?
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>>46615357
mublock is the alternative?

I was just confused as to why ghostery is censured here but recommended in the /g/wiki which I sometimes frequent before posting here. Not my home board.
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>>46615378
Not him, but why do yoy think it's the governnent's right to monitorize citizen's activities?
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>>46615450
Imagine you have basically an infinite budget and are in charge of protecting 300 million people from violent attacks that could come from anywhere within the country. The most effective thing you could do to spoil attacks is to monitor communications within the country.
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>>46615378
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>>46615378
>why do you feel its your right to have privacy on the internet?
>why do you feel its your right to have privacy on your home?
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>>46614117
what, do you need a /s tag?

redditfags PLEASE GO
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>>46614379
KEKK
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Last time i logged in to PS Network was prob 2 years ago snapchat i use rarely prob last time was 3 months ago
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>>46613346
>foobar 2000
>botnet
Remove this picture from rotation immediately.
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>>46613346
>tradeoff in usability seems huge
what tradeoff?
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how fucked am i .....
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What makes Clam AV different from other antivirus programs?
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>>46613346
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>>46615206
thanks for the article, was quite interesting.
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Let's see...
>My PC has Windows 8.1
>I use Youtube
>My Nexus 4 is running stock Android 5 (but is usually not connected to the interwebs)
>I use steam for MUH GAYMES
>I use Paypal occasionally but I don't see how that's a botnet.
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>>46613346
am i fucked?

I try my best but some services are unavoidable.
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>>46615224
>>46615327

The lastpass browser plugins are open source, go check the code, their server never sees your unencrypted blob

Keep parroting your botnet bullshit though I guess
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>>46617454
Not having an Intel CPU.

2600k master race. 3.5 years old and still kicking AMD's ass
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bingo...
am i supposed to cross out what i dont use, or the other way around?
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>>46613441
>>46613503
Closed source
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>>46617643
Yeah but foobar2000 doesn't send any network traffic without plugins installed

I guess it's just airgapping though to create that botnet
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>>46615297

Fully integrated.
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>>46613346
Huh. Not as bad as I thought
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>>46617500
Glad I helped anon
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>>46613346
Feeling good, anyone care to criticize?
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>>46615259
Why use foobar when you can use winamp?
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I don't understand evernote.


It looks so fucking useful, but when I open it I don't fucking know how to make heads or tails of it.
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Only one I really need to change is utorrent.

What other torrenting clients are there, though? I'm not sure what's trustworthy out there.
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Are older Intel products still botnets? I feel like the original i series and prior didn't have the concerns of the more recent offerings.
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>>46620158
why use winamp when you can use musicbee?
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not as bad as I expected.

What's wrong with cisco?
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>>46613346
>foobar

I can't trust people anymore.
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>>46615486
except it's been PROVEN 100% ineffective at stopping serious threats.
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>>46620241
I've used winamp for many years and its never let me down
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Why is mIRC a botnet?

Why is bing onedrive outlook etc. seperate from the anything made by microsoft tile.

Is a botnet just anything that's closedsource?

What is that green elephant?
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>>46620213
Deluge, qbit, bare
I use bare on Windows, deluge on Linux
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>>46620852
-Don't know..
-People can use Windows without using bing and onedrive
-No
-Evernote
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>>46620870
>bare
Looks pretty good, thanks. It's http://baretorrent.org, right?

Any issues with it, or does it work just the way you need it to?
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>>46620901
Yep that's the one. Occasionally it fails to resume torrents on startup but that's easily fixed by just selecting all and resuming.

It's really minimal so if you find the features lacking you could try the other two I mentioned instead.
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>>46620945
>It's really minimal so if you find the features lacking you could try the other two I mentioned instead.

Minimal is fine with me; as long as I can torrent my chinese cartoons and a few albums to the proper folders, I'm happy.

Thanks, anon.
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>>46620901
>heading about the botnet meme
>trading the best client for a piece of shit
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>>46620897
Thank you.
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>>46620982
>utorrent
>not bloated and full of ads
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>>46620158
>2015
>still using winamp
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>>46621208
>2015
>still breathing with your lungs

Just because its old does not mean its not good.
What do you use to store and play music?
iTunes?
WMC?
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>>46613346
I thought I'd do worse actually.

Anyway, currently I don't use any cloud or sync services except Opera bookmarks, who probably don't even have my user data encrypted.
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>>46621249
quod libet actually. winamp 2.92 the last usable version was released in 2003, do you still run it on windows 2000 too?
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>>46617549
That list is a joke or a joke that someone took seriously. It doesn't mean anything.
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What the fuck do you do about cisco? Use fucking 3com lol.
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I use Apple, PayPal, Dropbox, Steam and Skype.

Two of those are because of my boyfriend, I wouldn't normally use them otherwise.
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>>46621419
Tits or GTFO
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>>46621337
>quod libet
I'll look into it, I run it off XP
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>>46621428
Do you know what board you're on?
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>>46621428
>Apple
>boyfriend
This should have raised a red flag
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>>46621468
Yes,
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>>46621419
I'd guess Skype is one, but why?
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>>46621468
You tell him.
He clearly doesn't understand that there are no girls on /g/. Just gay men.
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>>46621495
More like he doesn't understand what 'Tits or GTFO' actually means. also samefag: >>46621491
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>>46621159
Do you see any ads / bloat ?
coz I don't.

Captcha : nggur.
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>>46621493
We don't live together so it's the easiest way to communicate most of the time.
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>>46621551
r u gay?
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>>46621530
What are you torrenting that's almost 50 gigs?
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>>46613346
>moved partially or completely away from 'cloud' providers?
pretty sure i never used cloud shit in the first place
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I'm looking for non-botnet free
-skype (jitsi?)
-dropbox (owncloud?)
alternatives
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>>46613346
I actually got bingo, you gotta believe me, please believe me, but 4chan said it was embedded.

Also I have always tried to stay away from cloud services. One I do use is gmail, and I am trying to get away from that too.
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>>46621551
If you communicate through skype, would you not end up having nothing to talk about in person?
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>>46613441
1/10
you are a faggot
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>>46621592
Why do you need to use offsite servers to store your info?
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>>46621249
Is there anything wrong with mediamonkey or am I missing something?
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>>46617711
>Yeah but foobar2000 does... send ... network traffic with... plugins installed

enjoy your botnet
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>>46621623
>mediamonkey
I've never heard of it?
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The botnet has got me
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>>46621600
We're basically best friends so not really.
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>>46621530
Did you fuck up cropping or do you actually use some netbook with a 1024x600 screen?
qBittorrent doesn't have ads by default, and is actually free, why would you chose uTorrent over it?
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>>46620241
Uh why would you use musicbee when you can just use foobar?
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>>46613346
jesus fuck, do I win?

not sure I can get rid of PayPal, but whats a non botnet email provider?
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>>46621378
Yeah I know. But the list actually has a use. It shows you how many everyday programs you use that "spy" on you and build a profile according to your preferences.
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>>46621530
I see g, f and bird
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>>46621579
Software and mongolian animated pictures.
>>46621680
Yop it's a netbook.
Right, qBit is the only good alternative, I've been using it for a while before switching, but it just won't work properly with my seedbox. It might take ages just to connect, not connect at all or download at 50 Kb/s. With uTorrent it works perfectly. Also can't seed files at full speed, usually crashes, uses more CPU, and torrent list that vanishes every once in a while.
Same seedbox prob with Deluge. Tixati isn't worth trying. Transmission's UI is too minimalistic, at least for me.
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>>46613346
I'm a normie atm
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>>46621749
yourself
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>>46621378
enjoy your many many botnets
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>>46621493
are you only pretending to be retarded?

its a closed-source non-free microsoft-owned communications program
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>>46621530
are you only pretending to be retarded?

>facebook
>twitter
>google
also
>windows
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>>46613346
That foobar shit was disproven ages ago.
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>>46621951
>email server

I disconnect my internet when I am not home. I dont think this would be compatible with relying on a self hosted email server
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>>46622030
oh really, where is the source code for foobar posted?
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>>46622071
>what is a VPS
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>>46615378
Kill yourself
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>>46622092
I dont know anything about that. How much do they cost?
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>>46622025
>>facebook
>>twitter
>>google
Can't care less about that.
>>windows
Are you really using linux as your main OS ?
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>>46622088
>closed source = botnet

Autism.
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>>46613346
Made with Adobe Photoshop and Creative Cloud.
www.adobe.com

Sent from my iphone
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>>46613393
I use chrome, u torrent, Skype, android, snapchat, kik, Adobe

Why should I care?
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>>46622136
The mp3 criticism is valid.

Utter trash. Shouldn't even exist for people to foolishly use.
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>>46622236
>audiophiles
my sides everytime
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>>46622305
I as well, choose to walk around wearing fogged glasses that very much limit my vision when I encounter visual stimuli of interest.

Why, I went to see a painting in a museum, and I chose to up the fogginess, just for the occasion.

>People who want to see clearly
My sides everytime
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>>46622345
not him but it depends what music you listen to and what you listen to it on. if you listen to black metal on a portable mp3 player, FLAC isn't right. knowing audiophiles i can safely say that absolutely none of their music benefits from such high quality either, as it is all trash bands and alternative music recorded in everything but high quality audio studios, but hey, you all use apple products and they have decent storage capacities and you aren't smart enough for compromise.
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First post here, how fucked i am?
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>>46622482
Yes, quantization distortion relative to perception depends on the content of the file, the format, and its bitrate. Yes, the environment you're listening and your needs relative to the capabilities of your device, play a role. No, that doesn't make mp3 any better.

>knowing audiophiles i can safely say that
No you clearly can't because you just went off on a tangent of inane thoughts that are mostly incorrect to begin with. You can hear differences between a 320 kb/s mp3 and the CD source. At 128 kb/s, those differences are hardly subtle, they're as plain as day. The argument for transparency is gone.

Again, 128 kb/s mp3 has little reason to exist. There are better formats. The quality is horrible. Etc. It isn't about compromise, it's a realistic understanding of how things work.
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>>46622345
You can't find more than half of my library in flac online. I'm not gonna hunt down bunch of rare stuff and spend hundreds of dollar on them.
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>>46622635
What about private trackers?

The only part of my library I've been unable to find in flac is an old cassette where only 20 or so were even made. Someone ripped that in 320 kb/s mp3, for some damn reason. Some album by Alcian Blue as well.

What can't you find? Genuine curiosity.
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>>46622611
if there were no reasons for 128 kbps to exist, it wouldn't. it is an excellent compromise of size and quality. 320 vs 128 is a 7 megabyte different, 3 to 10 MB. this is extreme, and in no way is it so noticable as to be worth an extra 66 percent size, especially if you are an uploader or host who is distributing this media. you wouldn't know, you probably don't contribute.

regardless of you audiophiles, i will continue to rip and distribute 128kbps music, and sometimes even 96kbps music, while you shiver in agony.
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I'm not even a tinfoil freddomfaggot, I just never though it was a good idea to throw all of my shit into a pool with everyone elses.

Fuck "the cloud", it's a decent idea, but too damn risky for my taste.
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>>46622125
are you seriously using a non-free closed-source OS as your primary OS???
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>>46622679
I can list last 5 albums I listened and their bitrates.

Various - Rising From The Red Sand Vol. 3 [224, CBR]
The Pink Noise / Man Made Hill - Split (Beniffer Editions) [128, CBR]
Sociedades En Tetra Brik - Alergina Vectoris [256, CBR]
Un Caddie Renversé dans L'herbe - Like a Packed Cupboard But Quite... [FLAC, my own rip]
Laughing Hands - Ledge [320, cbr]

I don't have a what.cd account since I have shitty internet. I have a waffles.fm but it's parked since forever because it's useless. I use slsk, shitload of blogs I follow around and my own rips as sources.
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>>46622699
>if there were no reasons for 128 kbps to exist, it wouldn't.
It's a bit naive to assume everything simply exists because its existence is actually proper. That's why we're arguing, because our idea of what's right is subjective.

>it is an excellent compromise of size and quality
It isn't, it's actually quite pitiful by modern standards. On par with jpeg.

Opus.

I'll be quite alright regardless of what you do. Seeing you will be like seeing any of the other myopic things people happen to do. Just is.
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>>46622136
>uses a closed-source fuckin audio player
enjoy your botnet
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>>46613346
What do I win
Also
>cloud
>EVER
never
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>>46622796
and in ten years you will be ahead of the curve, listening to absolutely nothing but 640kbps music am i right? i am not denying the fact that there is a quality difference, it just isn't worth it's salt in the slightest and is just a placebo. comparing it to jpeg isn't fair, because you are comparing two versions of one format (mp3) verses probably jpeg vs png. you aren't any more impressive than people who run games at 120 fps and look down on those using 60 fps. just another retard who doesn't know what he is talking about
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four of them.

Though, only if you count flash for adobe, and this is probably an AMD shill, so I doubt intel really counts.
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>>46622959
>i am not denying there is a quality difference
>and is just a placebo
Make up your mind.
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>>46617403
i want to know too; there are no performance tests to compare with other popular AVs so how do i know if this is not just a meme software?
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>>46613346
the shills on this site, I swear.
Claiming that their competitors are botnets. How much do they pay you, anyway?
>>
I use steam and soon-to-use would problably be paypal since commissions.

Woo for life.
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>>46623186
>free open source software
>shills

pick only one
>>
What about ADWCleaner?
>>
>>46623364
Aus Der Wickel.

Fitting name for a cleaner.
>>
>>46613346
>lastpass
Lol, okay. I see 1password isn't on there, how much are they paying you OP?
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Is it botnet if I only use their mail service?
It's just free up to 10 addresses for a custom domain.

So, is their mail service also botnet?
>>
It's funny that everything just have a logo, but the Microsoft tile also have "Any software made by" and the company name.
Either Microsoft has terrible marketing or their users are dumb.
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>>46623327
>FOSS alternative to intel
>FOSS alternative to paypal
>FOSS alternative to netflix

Riiight.
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>>46613346
>itching my way

Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
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>>46623570
Is there any real alternative to PayPal and Netflix?
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>>46623626
well, netflix has amazon prime I think.
Paypal, I don't know. I honestly don't trust anyone aside from my bank with my banking information and buy prepaid cards to buy things off the internet. Not because I suspect bad intentions, but I mean what if their database got compromised or something?
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>>46623626
Your maternal unit.
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>>46623570
you seem confused
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>>46623605
This is truly glorious copypasta.
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>>46623713
Point is, I smell shilling here.
I suspect AMD
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>>46615264
You got rekt by a fucking Mexican, my sides
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>>46613346
kik is amazing. y u hatin'
>>
>>46623739
Intels main problem is AMT, which has its own dedicated dhcp server and literally can not be disabled. ICC is also shady as fuck by intentionally sabotaging compiling on non-Intel CPUs

Intel has an advantage in that their GPU drivers are 100% FOSS

AMD contributes to an open GPU driver, but still maintain a proprietary one. AMD has also committed to supporting coreboot, a foss bios replacement

Neither provices hardware schematics

AMD is nothing particularly special, but Intels AMT is an absolute atrocity
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>>46623100
No, Intel definitely counts. Doesn't take an AMD shill to see that
>>
>>46623516

anybody?
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>>46615206
>Amazon, Spotify and Netflix have algorithms to determine what you would like according to what you've buyed/listened/watched
So what? And you're a retard for thinking the gov would pay to find out what people watch on netflix

>Twitter is a botnet my friend, the mexican government had the peñabot network to spread positive propanda about our current president and identify rebels. Why was this allowed? No one knows, but if this happened in my 3rd world country I can imagine what happens up north with you.
That doesn't make it a botnet, and this is no different than newspapers/news on TV - propoganda is everywhere, shut up

>If I've done nothing wrong there's no reason to search me.
He never said this, he just said that retards like you overreact about ad/marketing profiling
>>
>>46623942
what kind of industrial lubricant do you use on your anus?
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>>46620213
transmission
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>>46620496
No shit, they're not going to disclose who it's worked on - once they give more info their shits exposed. Just like the harddrive backdoor that was exposed recently. If they admit they have shit on ISIS, then the muzzies will burn all their laptops and the NSA wont have shit on them
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>>46623979
>what kind of industrial lubricant do you use on your anus?
Astro-Glide, can you suggest a nice open source alternative so I can circlejerk with you all?

Seriously explain to me the dangers of netflix creating suggestion algorithms. Unless you go full autism like Stallman, you're a hypocrite. Theres no way youre using the web with full anonimity, so stop bitching about stuff like Netflix
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Comments included
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>>46624163
>talking to paranoid poorfags who care a fuckton about their "freedomz" on the Internet
such a useless thing to do.
>>
>>46624163
thats only one of the many critiques of netflix

they also used microsoft silverlight for no good fucking reason, preventing linux users from using the service, when they could have just as easily used something open-source

very recently, they switched to html5, so they are headed in the right direction. time will tell if they stick with html5 or start using proprietary bullshit again
>>
>>46624207
I think you forgot the Microsoft tile.
>>
>>46624163
I don't care about all this botnet deal but I do feel like I should be able to browse anonymously whenever I feel like it without any hassle. With all these software, trying to track what you do just to sell you more stuff, it feels like browsing anonymously will be an opportunity in the future.
>>
>>46613346
How is Opera 'cloud'?
I use:
>Opera
>iCloud
>Youtube
>Skype
>uTorrent
>And I guess a text app that probably stores all of my messages.
None of which contain sensitive information. All that is hidden on a hard drive behind three passwords and 6 ft of soil.
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Forgot the Google/Youtube etc. square.
You cant escape the botnet, might as well embrace it niggas
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>>46624374
You can.
I just did it.
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>>46624395
>posts on 4chan
>thinks he escaped the botnet
>>
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Can't get me enough of that botnet.
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>>46624404
4chan is sandboxed in my browser.
>>
>>46624395
so you don't own a cell phone and you only access sites that have been scraped and stripped down by your own server like stallman?

no? oh, then you're a retard living in bliss thinking you "beat da man"
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>>46613346
No bingo, no problem
>>
>>46624284
You're right, I forgot I use paint and notepad
>>
>>46624434
No, I escaped the botnet that is shown in the OP's pic. My Android phone has no gapps.
>>
>>46624444
Quads
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>>46623912

If nobody will answer me, I'm gonna assume it's botnet.
>>
>>46624420
Oh, well why didn't you say so? Good thing you did, cause IP addresses, MAC Addresses, cookies, and logs are no match for sandboxing!

>>46624465
>No, I escaped the botnet that is shown in the OP's pic. My Android phone has no gapps.
Half of your apps collect data on you, android as a whole does too, and you better believe your cell provider does too
>>
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>>46624533
>IP addresses, MAC Addresses, cookies, and logs are no match for sandboxing!
1. Even fully FLOSS can't protect you from that.

>Half of your apps collect data on you, android as a whole does too, and you better believe your cell provider does too
See pic related.
And only non-free things on my device are drivers. It kind of can't be fixed now.
>cell provider
See 1.
>>
>>46624649
>1. Even fully FLOSS can't protect you from that.
Exactly, so stop acting so elite and pretending like sandboxing makes a difference in the big picture

>And only non-free things on my device are drivers. It kind of can't be fixed now.
Which have been backdoored before, like the company that sent every keystroke home

And what are you claims on your provider? You pic doesn't say anything
>>
>>46613346
>BBM
>Botnet
I laughed.
>>
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>>46624682
Everything you say is true, I'm not denying that. Just saying that it's easy to avoid crossing anything in that bingo. Which may help you with privacy issues, but may not. Less botnet is probably better than more botnet.
>>
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Is Policeman more or less the same as Request Policy?
>>
Do you even know what a botnet is?
Captcha: cmeme
>>
>>46613346

>name popular software
>hurr durr botnet
>>
>>46625139
Firefox is more popular than that Dolphin Browser, but isn't classified as botnet.
>>
>linkedin
>paypal
>cisco
These are botnets? You best be jestin'.
>protip: according to that bingo card, if you want to buy things from the internet, or use it at all, you're always on the botnet (according to that bingo card)
Shouldn't Mastercard and Visa be on that bingo card as well?

Also
>foobar
really?
>>
>>46614099
Only people with autism have trouble figuring out if someone is being sarcastic or not.
>>
>>46625246
>no true scotsman fallacy
Greeat.
>>
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How did I do?
>>
>>46623700
Or, you know, popcorn time and bitcoin.
>>
>>46625319
>bitcoin
Yeah lets all use a fau-currency that's insanely volatile and used only by autists and has no way to refund if you get ripped off
>>
>>46625276
Head to Linux + Chromium and you'll be fine
>>
>>46625354
I have had linux for about year but had to give it up because of constant issues with graphics card.
>>
anyone care to elaborate what's wrong with ghostery, bitcomet, steam, foobar, cisco, and opera?
>>
>>46625420
AMD?
>>
>>46625431
They are not open source. Thats basically all
>>
>>46617561
unless you compile yours from that source and harden it against modification there's no way of knowing

if you do then good for you
>>
>>46625431
Run by ad company, proprietary, proprietary, proprietary, proprietary, proprietary.
>>
>>46625431
Nothing is wrong.

/g/ is autistic and hates anything not open source. For some reason they think companies and employees should work for free and not monetize things - all while sitting in their basement leeching off of their parents.

They also pretend open source is safer, when none of them have ever audited the source code, they assume someone else will do the work for them.

Save yourself form the autism while you can and leave before it's too late.
>>
I keep my Keypass file with all my passwords in my Dropbox in the Cloud.

Come the fuck at me
>>
You're all autists. Just fucking use a number and a special character in your password and password protect everything and you'll be fine.
>>
>>46625433
nope, nVidia, GT 8600M to be precise.
>>
>>46613346
>everything is botnet
>mfw with the retardation and docility of sheeple
>>
>>46625486
>he thinks open source can't be monetized
What is Red Hat?
>>
>>46625526
poor
>>
>>46625526
It's the beautiful example of how the world should work. If only Microsoft would give technical support like that.
>>
>>46625468
checksums
>>
>>46625526
The OS isn't, their other products are.
>>
>>46625486
Open source software can be trusted most likely, proprietary software can in no case be trusted. It's not hard to understand.
>>
>>46625586
>The OS isn't
Yes, it is.
>>
>>46625607
Sorry, I meant free, not OS
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H-how'd I do?
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>>46625664
Also adobe
>>
>>46625664
Welcome to computerland, buddy
>>
>>46625694
t-thanks I'm new here
>>
>>46625139
please dont lash out on others. You choose to use botnets *you* live with the consequences
>>
>>46625433
AMD works beautifully on Linux. Best performing FOSS driver, adequately performing closed driver

>>46625512
Nvidia has worst performing free driver, and the proprietary driver does not support cards more than a couple generations old
>>
>>46625431
why the fuck would you use foobar or opera?

I can understand using steam, as there are no decent FOSS alternatives

But foobar and opera have plenty of alternatives
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>>46625486
>companies and employees should work for free
there are many, many ways to make money off open source software
>>
>>46625647
>the free isnt
yeah, you make no sense whatsoever
>>
>>46622579
Not fucked at all because these literally don't do shit.

/g/ seems to think that something that collects info for a better experience or more relevant ads is a bad thing and is the NSA spying, when in reality, the NSA doesn't give a shit what you're doing as long as it isn't a threat.
>>
>>46613346
Am I botnet yet, OP?
>>
>>46626185
Maybe if there were consequences that would be an issue.
>>
>>46613966
>>>>reddit
>>
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>>46613346
Would someone explain what makes something a 'botnet'? Is it basically anything that's closed-source?
>>
>>46626787
That's /g/'s definition.

This is taken from Wikipedia: A collection of Internet-connected programs communicating with other similar programs in order to perform tasks. This can be as mundane as keeping control of an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel, or it could be used to send spam email or participate in distributed denial-of-service attacks.
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>>46613346
ayy I only use Spotify/Pandora and Intel.
What's /g/'s alternative to Spotify/Pandora?
Grooveshark? Ew.
>>
>>46626787
>>46626974
Education courtesy of the InstallGentoo Wiki.
>>
>>46627075
>InstallGentoo Wiki
lawl

But really, thanks.
>>
>>46613346
Where's BSD and Linux on that bingo sheet?
>>
>>46627123
Why would they be on it? Most distros are open-source and respect your privacy.
>>
>>46627123
literally w.a.t.
You shouldn't have dropped out of middle school.
>>
>>46627141
>Linux
>BSD
>Respecting your privacy
One of these things is not like the other~

>>46627201
I had to. You know how hard it is to juggle middle school with college?
>>
>>46626654
tell me, what brings you to /g/, normie?
>>
>>46613402
How the fuck is last pass botnet?
>>
>>46625431
In the perspective of a freedom fanatic, those programs are bad because they are closed source.
These programs could really do whatever they wanted without your knowledge.
Everything they do is hidden, so you'll never know.
>>46625486
>/g/ is autistic and hates anything not open source.
This board is not just one person. There are people that regularly post on this board that do hate anything that isn't open-source though.
>For some reason they think companies and employees should work for free and not monetize things - all while sitting in their basement leeching off of their parents.
Many here follow the teachings of RMS, who doesn't mind paying (if he could do so anonymously).
He believes in freedom, and will be seriously offended if you amount his works to simply open-source.
>They also pretend open source is safer, when none of them have ever audited the source code, they assume someone else will do the work for them.
This is a highly controversial topic. Personally, I do believe that popular open-source software is generally safer to use than closed-source, and I believe this for the following reasons:
1) With popular open-source software, source code is reviewed constantly, especially updates to the source code.
2) You know exactly what is happening behind the scenes, and you know that whether or not the program you are running is malicious or harmless.
>Save yourself form the autism while you can and leave before it's too late.
Well, don't spend all your time here...
>>
>>46627363
You are giving up control of your most sensitive information to a third party and keeping it in the cloud. Even though they say your info is encrypted on their end, there is no way to really know since it is all closed-source and proprietary. They have also had their share of security breeches.
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I have to use outlook for university, but other than that meh.
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>>46627426
>there is no way to really know since it is all closed-source and proprietary
Well, if companies can lie, there's no way to know at all, regardless of open-source stance.
They could release some random source code that looks good and pretend they use it, but really use something else.
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