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Is it wrong of me to want a simple 9-5 job for the rest of my life?

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Not be like an overworked corporate drone, and I mean make a decent enough wage, not just like working at mcdonalds or something, but...

I see so many jobs that people have to take home with them, and the cons far outweigh the pros, like being a programmer for example. There are so many more cons to that job than pros. For all the work that you put into the job and 24/7 oncall duty you sure do get treated like shit.

I just want a job where I can come in, do my job, leave and never have to worry about it until the next time I go to work.

I don't really care if my coworker or boss gives two shits about me, as I want to use my freetime to work on life passions and spend time with the family and go on adventures.

I don't want to become that guy that has to work all the time. Just a job that I don't have to take home with me.
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>>45584072
Not at all, brah.

I have to take my work home with my sometimes, but I love what I do.
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i work 60 hours a week and am gone 80 hours a week, when home i am sore and tired and crabby

i make good money but my life sucks

don't make my mistakes
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>>45584143
What do you do?

>>45584095
The tech industry has a high turnover rate and change is rapid. The job you love today can be gone tomorrow in almost an instant. Don't take anything for granted. Always be prepared.
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>>45584072
From what I've seen and been told those jobs don't exist or at the very least exist as the exception to the rule. Work follows Sturgeon's Law in that 90% of all jobs are crap.
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I don't fucking want a job ever again
most jobs are degrading to human beings, especially manual labor jobs.
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>mfw I work 9 - 5:30
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>>45584228
What do you do? I've considered applying for government (and government-related) jobs because they take every other Friday off.
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>>45584228

Same.

>>45584072

I just got a 9 - 5 job. It's alright. I value my time more during my weekends.
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>>45584170
>> Implying I don't know this.

Brah, anybody that takes their job for granted and lets themselves stagnate in their position simply isn't meant to rise through the ranks.

I went from intern it IT admin in 5 months after receiving a counter offer.

Why? Because I work my ass off -also, because I'm not a baby that needs hand holding.
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9-5 is already too much. You suffer time poverty with that amount of time eaten into your day.

No time to do anything but prepare dinner, do the washing, sleep, and work work work work work all over again.
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>>45584223
I agree.
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It's not wrong to want a stable job. Not every job needs to be a career.

Some people want to be creative at their job. Some people want a job to support their creative hobbies. Do whatever makes you happy in the end.
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>>45584265
8 hours of work
8 hours of personal time
8 hours of sleep
=
24 hours
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>>45584255
It admin. Aren't you special.
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>>45584255
Lol, you're gonna burn out eventually, son. Consider tapering down a bit before you blow a fuse.
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>>45584072
nursing is a nice "do it and leave" job but its 12 hour shifts. i'm considering backing out of my application to a nursing program tho in favor of compsci because i am more interested in compsci, i just feel like compsci is such an unstable career, at least for new grads. idk what to do :(
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>>45584301
i should add the bonus to 12 hour shifts is you work 3 days a week.
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>>45584280
>spend up to 10 hours at work
>only actively working for 9, paid a pittance for that 9
>1 hour total traveling each day
You end up with a pretty pathetically small slot of time in which to actually live.
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>>45584301
Why not compsci then nursing? Isn't medical going all tech these days?
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>>45584280
That 8 hours of personal time is kind of badly split when working a 9-5 shift.

Assume you get up at 7am get ready for work and commute. Assume you get back by around 7p too after the commute back and shower and stuff. With that schedule work and things related to it take 12 hours of your day not 8.

I think 7-3 is nicer. It doesn't fundamentally solve the previous problem but you're free more while it's light and that's kind of nice, people will usually pull an extra hour of two of personal time out of nowhere because of it.
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AI will automate everything by 2025 anyway. Just save up enough that you can survive the initial fallout from 70% unemployment
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>not working 4pm-12am
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>>45584315
>Working hours were long averaging at least ten hours a day and six days a week for most workers, even longer for others. For men and women from agricultural backgrounds these new conditions proved challenging because farm work tended to be more flexible and offered a variety of work tasks. Factory work was also different for skilled artisans, who had once hand-crafted goods on their own schedule.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3406401046.html

Stop whining.
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>>45584318
did you mean "than" as in do compsci instead, or do compsci and then nursing degree afterwards?

if i ended up doing compsci i wouldnt feel the need to stick with medical technology, my main divide is just in whether i want to leap from a less interesting but more secure field to a more interesting but less secure field (of compsci). its a tough decision for me because im still interested in medicine but i feel as though i would definitely enjoy studying compsci more than nursing, but in the end nursing is a much more stable career and arguably easier/less time consuming as well. tough decisions dude
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I don't get how someone could be complacent in a position like that
you literally have no ownership over anything you'll ever do
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>>45584342
wow that must suck, fuck that
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>>45584072
yes, yes it is
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>>45584228
I gotta admit, I got it good.

Sure, there's travel, sometimes once a month, sometimes several, but 99% of the time I never travel or work on weekends. A trip could mean an hour of work or it could mean all day working (14 hours is not uncommon)

But when I am home? Same thing, could be busy, normally though, it's a few e-mails and maybe a few calls in a given day. Some days are busier than others, some I could literally have nothing work-related all day.

It feels good making $80k a year and having some weeks where you aren't having to do shit for it.
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>>45584352
You have no ownership regardless. You're selling your soul out for 8 hours a day. Everything you do and produce within those 40 hours a week belongs to the corporation that pays your salary and provides your benefits.
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>>45584223
Manual labor jobs aren't degrading. Customer service jobs. Now those are degrading. There's nothing worse than having a manager who sits in his personal office all day telling you how lucky you are to have customers verbally abuse you all day while you slowly work yourself into an early grave.
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>>45584362
2nd shift work isn't that bad if you enjoy the night.

Go to bed at 7am wake up 2:30.
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>>45584374
that why you don't work for them
?
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>>45584394
Because I need money so I can live a decent existence.
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>>45584404
How does it feel to be a brainwashed techdrone
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I don't actually hate my job, I work in the electronics/appliances area of a local Sears and enjoy helping people out and just shooting the shit with customers about TVs but my coworkers are just cold as fuck.
I don't know if I'd want to go somewhere else since management just doesn't give a fuck about this sinking ship so things are pretty relaxed but damn it would be nice if these fuckers I'm working with weren't so uptight and aloof.
I could easily stick with something like this for another few years if I had better people to work with.
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>>45584342
Does anyone actually prefer graveyard shifts? Its so relaxing and I find I do my best work after 10PM
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>>45584370
I used to be in your position. Had remote work assignment until the project I was working on went down under and my manager left. My team got reorg'd into new management and they effectively forced us to work nights and weekends.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Stay thirsty, my friend.
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I work in a furniture warehouse 40 hours a week. Put in 8 hours then go home and forget about work. Pay isn't great, but it's enough for a shitty apartment, general necessities, and internet. I could easily do this for the rest of my life, and just might.
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I used to work 4 PM - 4 AM five days a week and it was one of the most enjoyable times in my life. I spent all day and night listening to new music and my job was easy while the money was great.

Makes up for working 6-3 in cornfields for a few summers. Fuck that noise.
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>>45584436
What if your job gets automated by robots?
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>>45584420
>How does it feel to be a brainwashed techdrone
I get all sorts of feels, bro.
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>>45584458

Become a cyborg so you can keep up with the robots.
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>>45584429
At first I hated it but did it out of necessity.

School from 8-3 but once I finished that and got a nice pay raises over the years it good. Taking a toll on my body since its a warehouse job. Probably going to go back to school and get a comsci degree next fall.
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>>45584170
>What do you do?
truck driver

you wonder why trucks are dicks on the road? this is why
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>>45584432
>Enjoy it while it lasts.
I've already been doing it for four years and will probably be doing it for at least a couple more. I say only a couple (at most) because I am fixing to move into a more managerial position; it's a matter of time and depends on the company's growth.

By all means though I know what I got, and I don't take it for granted, but I also know I worked hard to get here and have a unique skill set that other people don't have. Sure, I know co-workers, friends too, that can do things better than I, but not everything I do as well as I do it.

Of course all this success: I make good money, have a nice car, home, good friends, etc. is well and good, but then it always comes back to

>tfw no gf

Sigh.
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>>45584538
No, you're just a dick
Pull that shit on the lazy fucks that are suppose to loading/unloading for you not regular joes
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>>45584547
>>tfw no gf

>Sigh.

http://therationalmale.com/the-best-of-rational-male-year-one/
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>>45584568
>unloading for you
lol i wish
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>>45584538
Are you LTL?
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>just want to make enough to buy property and rent it out
>then I can live the NEET life

Soon
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>>45584587
>guides on how to be a man
The 21st century scam for the elitist fedora that feels above scams
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>>45584343
>waaaaah, people in the past had to work in shitty factories, that means people should be happy with shitty hours
go fuck a rusty cunt
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>>45584650
It might be hard to live off just one property.
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>>45584712
I meant multiple properties, you can make good money off of 3 or 4 of them
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no, you're just average

the normal person does not give a shit about anything aside from providing for his family

good job anon, you are now normal. The only questions left are: apartment or mortgage? F150 or Corolla? TV in the kitchen or bedroom?
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>>45584343
That was bad. This is not as bad, but it is still bad.
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>>45584072

test
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>>45584384
I did 2nd shift call center once, I dozed at work because we never got any calls. I fucking hated it.
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>>45584381
This. I don't think I've had as much stress reduction in an 8 year shift as I did during my last day at Walmart.
>call out dumb niggers trying to steal shoes
>call out fat cunt asking me why the scooter isnt charged
>call out fatass soccer mom failure in life at 40 mid-manager trying to dictate how i need to stack boxes
Fucking cunt, I'm doing this because I'm gone moving in a month and I can't be arsed for a proper job. Don't fucking run your mouth using the little power you have left because your husband left you and your bitch kids don't listen to you. Bitch told me to not come back when I went for my break. I laughed and took my break then.
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>>45584741
ouch
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>>45584671

Why is it we never hear of a self-made woman?

http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/woman.html#_Toc489442832
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>>45584072
>I see so many jobs that people have to take home with them [...] like being a programmer for example.

Don't confuse a profession with the American dream. There's a big difference between feeling like you have to take work home with you, and actually having to.
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>>45584844
Because all women are self-made. It doesn't warrant mentioning.
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i like being an pathetic, alcoholic, workaholic cunt though
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>>45584844

because they are all quiet mothers
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Why work at all?
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>Mfw I work at Comcast

>Mfw I make $30+ an hour just doing tech support

>Mfw free highest tier cable TV and internet

Feel free to ask me questions about Comcast too, if y'all aren't too autistic
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>>45585005
>Why work at all?
Well I can say for a fact that before work I didn't understand the satisfaction of a job well done.

Now I approach things differently and value stuff more. People who don't work either fail to understand such concepts or refuse to learn until they decide to work. I may projecting here but it's how I feel about people who don't do anything. I respect creative types though.
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>>45585032
What is it like working for one of the worst corporations in the history of Capitalism?
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>>45584343
If you don't understand that the hard work people put in is for a future where less work is required, you don't understand technology, and you need to leave.
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>>45585041

It's actually really weird. I mean, as a company, I detest Comcast, their practices sicken me and trample on all of my ideals

But at the same time, they seem to want to do everything in their fucking power to make sure YOU as an employee are fucking happy, they want YOU not to hate Comcast
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>>45585005
food, shelter, and all that stuff i guess
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>>45585066
I heard some of the best companies to work for are hated by customers/general public. Some of the worst companies to work for are loved by customers/general public.
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>>45585095
I can attest to this.
I worked for Taco Bell and Panera. Absolutely the worst places I've ever worked. Shit environment, shit food, shit people, under-trained management... But they WANTED you to work there. They fed you this sense of "family" during training, but quickly threw it away once you were on the floor. And... of course, everyone on the planet eats Taco Bell and Panera... Ugh.
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In any job, unless you love the job, if you work more then you have free time then it is not worth it, no matter how much money you make. Altough when you do what you love and it becomes a commodified thing then it will suck the passion out of you.

I once read interview of a stockbroker who worked 12-16 hours a day and made so much money that most of can only dream of, but it was all useless. He never even had the time to spend the money, spend time with family, go on vacations.

We live in a world that makes us cogs in a machine, and it errodes us of our humanity until even our empathy and soul is gone, so that we attack everyone who is not a cog,
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>>45585095
>>45585138

Comcast I think does a way better job at making you "want" to like them, though I say that being the most tech-literate person there, if I bring up stuff like Net Neutrality, I get blank stares (the recruiter kept telling me I was way overqualified, I suppose that's why?)

They give you free cable TV, internet and phone (they want you to "know" their products)

Beyond that they have a Barista on staff, shittons of crazy-subsidized vending machines (30 cents for a can of soda!)

The entire place is covered in free (150/20) Wi-Fi, you're allowed to use your personal devices in the office (I personally use my Chromebook between calls) so 90% of the people are just sitting around playing shitty cell phone games between calls, or noodling around on Facebook
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>Not sleeping breaks at job and living with 4 hour night sleep
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>>45585181
Damn, that's a good deal.
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>>45585247

I still fucking hate them, but job's a job
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I just want to be NEET forever
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>>45585181

>They give you free cable TV, internet and phone (they want you to "know" their products)

not in my area, they charge me $250 for shitty "broadband" and wanted another $100 for basic cable and $50 for landline phone service

Comcast a shit.
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>>45585138
Most places that are awful to work at tend to be doing this. I recall the environment store managers and the training videos try to claim exists was friendly and understanding and human. However, once you're on the floor working, all of this disappears, your managers look at you as a tool and not a human. That certainly creates higher profit and more efficient work for the most part. I think the reason HR puts up that front of "We're a great place to work!" is because these shit-tier jobs burn through so many employees. People are looking for better opportunities constantly and have no loyalty to their company anymore. If you can trick the employee to stay longer or feel no need to leave then the money that was invested in training new workers gains higher return of investment.

However, until the HR people begin to make the actual store workers practice what they preach, which is difficult since people don't want to be at their job in the first place, then all that "great work environment" is a bunch of wasted time and money.
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>>45585278

Are you an employee?
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>>45585270
Find a way.
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>>45584301
>>45584309

I work in a hospital (registrar) and I also work 12 hour days. My job is okay and I grew to hate most low income people on medicaid, but I love the scheduling.

I would rather work three 12 hour days out of the week than a 9-5 shift. With nurses, even if they work 12 hour shifts, any other day they come in, its all OT. Having 4 days off fucking cranks, and your body gets used to stress volumes quickly, mainly if you have awesome coworkers.

Im going for a comp info system degree and I slightly regret not going into the med field, though Ill be looking to see what I can do career wise (if any) when I graduate.
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>>45585304
lol im in the opposite boat, im going into nursing because its basically the easy route for a guaranteed job and solid pay, but its like 2 weeks before classes start and im debating dropping it all and studying computer science so i dont become a mindless pill jockey for the rest of my life. 3 day work week is still fucking bananas tho
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>>45585304
Damn, I gotta say only working 3 days out of the week sounds like a great perk.

At least with nursing, you just do your job and then go home. With programming, your work may never end.
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>>45585288

I've contracted for them, so I'd say yes.

before people ask, I was a lineman, the guy that would go out to power poles and put lines back up when they break.
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>>45585330
yea but think about your worst day programming vs your worst day as a nurse, or worse yet, my job, a PCT/CNA. my worst day was probably when i was attacked my a drunk mexican dude twice my size, then went into an adjacent room and had to wrestle a nearly 7ft retarded man into a diaper, then go down the hall and mop up an actual bucket-full of shit all over the walls and floor of a tiny shared bathroom because the docs got too loose with the laxatives.
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>>45584072
lonox is shitcos gnomez shit

C++ is shit cos libpng is shit

programming jobs r shit cos u always have to take ur fucking work home with u n b on call 24/7
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>>45584072
>like being a programmer for example. There are so many more cons to that job than pros. For all the work that you put into the job and 24/7 oncall duty you sure do get treated like shit.

Depends where you work and who's your boss - like more small buisinesses are tech-centered like if your programming, chances are your boss is or was a programmer and understands, where other companies will have buisiness-centered bosses where it's like... "So if you can just write the login and authentication code by lunch tomorrow we'd be in a great spot"

Also, depending on where you work, you may not be on-call...

---

Anyway, i totally get your idea OP, The biggest thing i'm worried about with getting a job is i'm afraid to hate it, i'm afraid that if i get the dream job as a coder i'll hate that too, or be sucked working in long, post-work hours... And the constantly being on-call shit is what makes me worried about having a startup (i had some good ideas that i could implement) even though i would love the freedom, i would hate the constant maintenence (Especially cause some of the ideas i have are web-based *figured i'd ride the web 2.0\mobile app\Content bubble while i can*)
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>>45585036
the only thing I didn't understand that working has changed is the importance of alcohol
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>>45585325
There are only a few drawbacks of nursing, and the major one is...old people.

You are going to have to change diapers, clean up shit and wear fucking bio haz suits if they (potentially) might have mrsa, meningitis, TB, flu like symptoms, etc. Its worse if you work in a hospital in a low income neighborhood where idiot uneducated people leave their elderly to rot and quickly die, as they provide little to no care for seniors.

OTOH, youre very much given job security. My advice? Go down a tech route, or even radiologist. They make amazing cash for little amount of work.

>>45585330
Yep

Nurses make good money too, so with 4 days off, alot of the nurses I work with are constantly traveling and buying expensive toys, so theyre very much comfortable income wise. Once you leave that type of scheduling, you will miss the free time and youll never get used to the non-flexibility.
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>>45584538
you sit on your arse all day long in an AC'd enclosure with music and shit and the worst thing you have to worry about is not running into something, yet you still whine about it? man the fuck up bitch
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>>45585417
im a CNA and i get $15 an hour (no benefits, per diem) to wipe up shit and walk old people to the bathroom. for the first month or two it was kinda charming in a "oh wow, im helping people sort of way" but now its like "if 315 pissed in the bed again shes just gonna have to wait till after lunch because this is getting ridiculous"
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I do freelance web development work, whenever I feel like it.
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I want a regular 9-5 only because I'm currently full-time in retail hell, and hours are all over the goddamn place, and you never, ever get weekends off.

I just want some goddamn stability, and not having to be checking my fucking schedule every day to see when I'm coming in, as well as the ability to actually hang out with my mates who do have weekends off.
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I worked part time for a few months, 4 shifts a week and 5 hours long, work was 20 minutes from my house. That was the happiest time of my life and I only made 16$ an hour.
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>>45585339

Contractors don't count unfortunately

Gotta be a Comcast or NBC employee directly
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>>45585468
>applied to med school
>all around, i have a shot at it
>realize i'm signing myself up for dealing with idiots who want an antibiotic for a 2 day cold hour after hour after hour for a couple years min
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to go purely into research and be more than a cog. And I don't want to deal with dumbfucks day in and out. Hopefully med school will go okay and I can get an internship somewhere where I deal with people under anesthesia only.
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>>45584072
>9-5 job
>I want to use my freetime to work on life passions
pick one
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Hello friends,

I just got my associate's degree in Computer Information Systems and I have current A+ and IC3 certifications, how do I into an entry level job? Where do I look?

>tfw everyone wants experience
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>>45585704
If you didnt do an internship you're fucked. Go get some shit tier entry level position doing tech support or deploying apps.
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>>45585704
Make a GitHub account to put your projects on there and to contribute to other projects so people can see you know more than just the shit they taught you and you actually have a bit of experience.

Also >>45585714.
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>>45585704
>Where do I look?
indeed.com
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