/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for muh BMW 1

>>>/mlp/

>>45392936
Stop spamming this you filthy tea drinker.

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thanks, mods

>>45392946
the fuckers been up for over a week, i was hoping i could at least get someone to haggle with me so i could arrive at a sensible price for it

>>45392958
>UK
>caring about tech

Just move to the states m8

>>45392958
You should worry more about your dental plan.

>>45392988
why would i move from little america to big america, especially when theres so many lovely european countries to pick from.

>>45392994
>needing insurance for healthcare of any kind in the UK
youre a funny guy

>>45393012
you mean from little england to big england, since england owned america first, right?

>>45393012
Because in big America you are truly free to speak your mind. And you can buy a fun.

>inb4 typo

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>sperging over a glared the fuck out screen of mlp
I'm not even a horse-fucker, I just needed a cool picture for the OP. Grow the fuck up mods.

>for free

>>45393027
nah, things have since swapped around and now aside from the cosmetics and the way the government works were basically little america

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>>45393012
Because that free dental plan is working out so well for all of you.

>>45393045
america spawned SJW culture, free speech my arse

>>45393049
them hot pockets take time to microwave, mods gotta find something to do in those few minutes

>>45393075
its certainly better than US dental care on average

>>45393094
>america spawned a movement that says what they want

You're proving my point m8. Difference is here you can call them faggots without going to jail.

>>45393118
but they cant keep their place on their course at the uni they attend, they cant protest without having a nice one to one with the business end of a policemans baton, and god forbid you read linux journal or know what tails is.

>>45393094
Not quite sure about that.
America is known for fake everything, boobs, teeth, ... what have you as I can't be arsed to think of more.

>>45393266
amongst those who can afford it, sure, but id bet my arse that on average brits have better teeth, even with the staining from all the tea we drink

Just ordered this piece of shit
2.9 GHz AMD A-series, 4 GB RAM which I'm planning to upgrade to 16, and 500 GB HDD
What am I in for?

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>>45393338
Fuck me
It's an E545

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>>45393873
>off centered keyboard and trackpad

>>45393873
You deserve everything that is coming to you.

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>>45393873
>AMD
>15.6"
>1366x768
>4GB
>320GB HDD
>numpad
>$350

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>>45393873
>mfw notice the lack of dedicated F-keys

>>45393338
why do you need that much ram?

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>>45396106
>ever using the F-keys
F1-12 are now secondary to the multimedia/special keys, as it should be.

>>45396145
The earlier Thinkpad models never had a problem having both, stop trying to justify this shit.

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>>45396158
No they didn't. Eat a dick faggot.

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>implying I got anything new to post

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>>45396176
Tell me what these are anon, tell me. The newer keyboard has new buttons, but they could have easily done the same and put them on top but they didn't.

>>45396243
>too retarded to set function keys to primary function in bios

Stay retarded.

>>45396261
Oh I'll do that, but it doesn't mean I can't complain about how retarded it is in the first place.

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Just bought a T420 for $290, did I do good? Pic is scandi keyboard but I obviously got one with a US layout.

>>45396285
Retarded is you setting keys you rarely use as primary function and keys you use all the time as secondary.

>>45396298
I use my F-keys all the time and I have never felt the need to make them secondary.

>>45396295
Nice job, anon. I'd love to have t420 for such price.

>>45396295
>>45396339
BLAZE IT

>>45396295

http://vocaroo.com/i/s10pQw9N0RBq

>>45396339
Yeah it was a pretty neat deal since I got good cheap shipping since it's from Belgium (I'm also in EU).

>>45396386
>being this gay

>>45396386
I don't know what I just listened to but in my book the only way to completely disinfect a computer is to install Linux on it.

>>45396232
It's so cute though
>yfw a starving salaryman forgetting lunch one day because he thought it was a bento

>>45396386

you could play joker in batman

>>45392812
Looking to purchase a thinkpad for college. I will be using it for programming, writing papers + general web usage. Which model would have good battery and lightweight that would suit my basic needs? is the x200s my best option?(id rather not spend too much)

>>45398111
I use the x200s (WXGA+) as my everyday laptop in university and yes, it is worth it. The battery life is between 5 and 10 hours with a good 9cell under Windows 7, depending on load. With chrome and 30+ tabs, the cpu jumps between 20 and 80% load, with a lightweight linux distro it should be way better.

Before you buy it, you should test a similar laptop before. For a lot of persons I met, my x200 and my current x200s are way too small.
But if you can get over the small screen, it has a wonderful size, I can fit it everywhere and can use at least a sheet of paper and the laptop at the same time everywhere (most guys with 13,3"+ cant do that).

If you get one, make sure you have a SSD. Also you should get a pair of RAMs with the same specs, as the GPU could cause artifacts if it has to use different sticks (I did not have the issue with my x200 and 3/ 6gb of ram but with my x200s with 6gb).

The bad thing about it is that the screen size is very bad if you are used tohave more. I work with 1 27", 1 24", 1 17" and a laptop screen at home and when I work with the 12,1" of the thinkpad, it feels a little bit uncomfortable. Slpit screen works, but you can hardly see anything when there is a sheet of paper between you and the laptop.

I currently think about getting a secondary USB screen for longer worksessions with FullHD at 15,6". Hopefully it will work with a USB3.0-expresscard and a Y-cable. Beside that issue, wonderful laptop.

>>45398438
yea the screen size is perfect for me as i want something small to carry around easily

>>45398111
how is the t60 or t61?

>>45398438
>good 9 cell

Know of any good 3rd party batteries?

Guys what should I do, my battery that I got from eBay should've gotten here Wednesday but its not here yet,
Estimated delivery Wednesday, Nov 26, 2014

Should I message ebay and try to get my money back?, this has never happened before to me.

>>45398837
Poke the seller first
Then poke them harder if it persists
Then poke them with the threat of negative feedback if they refuse to help

If they try to fuck you over after that, then poke eBay

>>45398897
I did message the seller yesterday but nothing from them yet, will wait till Monday and if I don't get it then, well the it aint looking good for them

>>45398935
I wouldn't worry too much about it, you'll always get your money back because ebay's Money Back Guarantee is stupidly skewed to support the customer.

On multiple occasions I've received something that was DOA, and when you submit a ticket, if the seller doesn't contact you within a time frame you get your money back, no questions asked, without even having to send back the faulty product. If some problem isn't resolved in a timely manner? Money back. Got scammed? Money back. It's actually kind of crazy. I've even gotten money back despite sellers listing their "rules" in the auction, because ebay literally gives no fucks about them.

>>45398976
alright, but I really hope I get the battery on Monday because I need one, but If I dont, will have to contact ebay.

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Hey /g/, I was wondering
I've got a W520 with its 170W pwer brick and a docking station that doesn't have the special power jack so I can't plug the brick in it
What would happen if I was to put the plugged W520 on the unplugged docking station?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X200S-Ultra-Lightweight-Windows-7-2GB-RAM-80GB-HDD-/321600918115?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:IE:3160
gonna drop the bomb on this, is it ok?

>>45399442
I guess you bought it in the end?

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>>45397452
>mfw

>>45398837
Sometimes sellers are lazy and ship it the next day, so Monday due to the fuckfest of thanksgiving.

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Did I do gud?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151493763839?

>>45399812
yea was it a good deal?

>>45400093
pls reply

>>45399949
I hope so!!

>>45400237
it's alright

saw one that went for 35 quid last night though, auction

what did you offer the guy?

>>45400377
ended up getting it for 65 pounds

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>>45400476
not bad

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>>45400093
Yeah, at least you got a better deal than I did on the X60s. It's got the same specs except mine had a slightly bigger HDD and it came with an aftermarket battery.

I get something like 6 hours with Lunix with tlp installed, more like 7 if I disable the radio switch.

It's pretty nice! It was my first Thinkpad and although I just bought my second one the other day I still love my X60s a lot, hope you like it too.

Pic related, back when I was trying out the newest version of Ubuntu for fun, though I use Slackware now.

>>45400609
>I get something like 6 hours with Lunix with tlp installed, more like 7 if I disable the radio switch.
Oh, by the way it doesn't get exactly that since once it gets below 20 it sometimes jumps down to 5 so effectively it gets maybe an hour less.

>>45400677
*20%

>>45396295
What's with people asking AFTER the purchase if the purchase they made was good or not?

>>45400609
Awesome, thanks m8. This is will be my first Thinkpad and my first time trying out Linux. I am thinking of Mint or Fedora...

>>45400719
they just wanna know if they should have any buyers remorse :^)

Just bought a T420 for 160€ (200$ )

I'm really exited, I'm using a T61 right now but I felt I needed I bit more power, also I wanted a smaller laptop, this is 15,6"

Best of all is that is just a bit damaged in the bottom, usually I just see really damaged thinkpads for sale but this seems to be OK.

>>45400739
Make sure when you get Linux you install tp-smapi and hdapsd so you get the active hard drive protection, the ThinkWiki has more detailed instructions.

>>45400609
>uses Model M (in pic)
>uses Slack (not in pic)
Much respect.

>>45398837
almost got a wii u for $80 off ebay, but then the stupid bitch i bought it from was "too busy with work" to send it on time. she finally sent it but to the wrong address and wanted to charge me again cause she didnt wanna pay shipping again

found her email on her ebay page, found her facebook, found her parents and relatives, and i was waiting for the queue to start making her life a living hell

luckily for her ebay's customer support refunded my money

I know it's not completely Thinkpad related, but my office just started throwing out a bunch of "old" laptops, and I managed to pick up a couple of Latitude E6500s in very good condition. Now, years ago I bought a T500 (which I still use), but the E6500 was a very close second choice at the time. I almost wish I had bought it now; the fucking thing is built like a tank, the overall quality of construction is noticeably better than the T500. Everything still feels tight and new after years of office abuse. If it didn't have a shitty 1280x800 screen, I'd actually probably switch to the Latitude as my main laptop.

I was genuinely surprised, because my memories of Dell Latitudes were made up of shit computers like the D600, which was part of the reason why I opted for the devil I knew. Funnily enough, apparently now Dell is the only one continuing in the old IBM tradition, Lenovo having gone the Apple route (I have a work-issued T440 and I hate it).

>>45402477
A version of this with modern hardware and a higher res screen would be my dream laptop.

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>>45400719
Because most of us at /g/ are insecure about our purchases

>>45402344
Damn, that's a bitch.
I sent a package once to the wrong address, well I let the mail person rewrite the label and they messed up a digit that I didn't catch.
The buyer ended up going to that address and was satisfied with the X200, I got lucky the person was chill.

>>45402507
I've been meaning to get a Dell M4800 as my next laptop purchase. They are really good, and their workstations dont throttle like the W510-W540 do.
I find it funny that Dells kept the utilitarian design.
Still I wouldn't mind an 2nd gen X1C

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>>45402507
Current Latitudes (not to mention Precisions) should excell in build quality. Pic related is what sits right behind the display of E6440, magnesium frame. Same should be for the E7440.

However battery life isn't as great.
With a 9 cell you can only expect about 5-6 hours of worktime for E6440 and 10 hours of idle.
The biggest battery option for E7440 is 45Whr and even though the machine is more power efficient it will only guarantee around 6-7 hours of worktime with 13 hours of idle time.
For comparison sake a T440s/T440 kitted with the biggest external battery can give 12-13 hours of worktime and around 25hours of idle. X240 is also very similar.

Pic related is what sits behind the display of a T440p. Doesn't seem as sturdy.

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>>45403094
sorry

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>>45403042
Mate, they are shit. Pic related, the one issued to me by school. And i treat all my shit with respect.

>>45403164
What's the model?

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>>45403164
>thinkpads are shit

>>45403225
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/servicetag/9ZH6CT1/configuration

>>45403301
>E5420
>E5xxx

nigga that's the equivalent of the thinkpad edge

you want a 4xxx/6xxx/7xxx series

>>45403340
nigga, i use this computer 4 free. Just orderd a X1 Carbon. Then ill never use this shit again.

>>45403278
bet it still works

>>45403423
>Then ill never use this shit again.
>Just orderd a X1 Carbon

>>45403454
maaate its the best man. No time for x220. Need the most lightweight one. Only payed 500 man

>>45396295
how did you find one at that price?

>>45403301
>The distinction between the Latitude 6XXX series and the lower-grade 5XXX series is certainly evident in a side-by-side comparison, with such luxury MIL-STD 810G-tested amenities as magnesium alloy wrapped corners and heavy-duty hinges surrendered in exchange for a lower price tag.

Just a quote from notebookcheck. Basically that's a wrong model to expect sturdiness from.

>>45403500
If you're in Europe, then Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-4178-6UU-I-CORE-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-500GB-Webcam-/381068765382?pt=DE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_Notebooks&hash=item58b977e8c6

About to end at maybe even lower than the anon got it at.

>>45403651
It already ended.
I'm in the U.S. anyway

>>45404006
So just look out for US auctions. Buy It Now also has it cheaper sometimes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-4177Q5U-T420-14-notebook-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-320GB-Win7-PRO-/111516988378?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item19f6ee33da

Learn how to use Ebay and you won't have trouble finding the right model.

>>45404121
>Learn how to use Ebay
How do I Ebay?

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>>45403489
>500 bucks for this piece of shit

not sure if this is new for anyone, but I recommend watching this for anyone who wants to buy a new-era thinkpad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY

>>45404409
>actually considering buying an X1 Carbon
>see this

>>45404409
>>45404527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6sGX2tb7rU

>>45404497
How did I know it would be this guy.

>>45404545
>landing on carpet
>landing completely flat

>>45394184
The trackpad is supposed to be centered to the spacebar, which it is, and still is on good laptops. Shitty laptops have it centered on the palm rest.

>>45404600
the X1 is the best alternative to a enterprise level ultrabook.

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>>45404545
like wtf

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>>45404703
I'd rather have this.

>>45404409
da fuck is going on in that pic? Is that an attempt to remove the keyboard or something?

>>45404709
If you see the entire show it supposed to be comedy. However, i do not think an autistic fuck like yourself will understand that...

>>45404703
I'd rather have the X240 with the extended battery.

>>45404754
That's a dropped X1.

>>45404780
The x240 is thick as fuck
X1 is super thin.

>>45404793
>>45404754
Oh yeah I now see the broken top cover. There's the rest of it still hanging on the left side. Looks funny.

>>45404731
Shitty ass keyboard. Using the same keyboard right now on a shitty latitude i got from school.

>>45404756
>business comedy

Eh, sounds campy. Not my taste I guess.

>>45404858
What's a better keyboard then, Carbon-lover?

>>45404858
Go on, give me an alternative to a X1.

>>45404889
The carbon keyboard is nice as the keys are spaced out with 1mm room. Makes typing more efficient. It also has backlighting.

>>45404892
X1 is the best, there is no alternative. Unless you are a fucking apple fgt

so what's the big deal with ThinkPads? cheap + reliable?

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>>45404932
>Trust me guys, I'm clearly not a Lenovo shill!

>>45404944
Yes.

There are alternatives such as EliteBooks/Latitudes as well.

>>45404961
I have yet to see anny good arguments to why the x1 is shit other than "muh x220"

>>45404994
>Clickpad
>No magnesium rollcage

>>45404820
>X240 thickness
>0.79" (front to back, not tapered)

>X1 thickness
>0.55" (Front)-0.79" (Rear)

Please tell me more about how the X240 is "thick as fuck" and the X1 is "super thin", you ginormous retard.

Don't you think there is a point where things will be too thin? You know, literally getting a paper cut off of your laptop would not be acceptable, or not having a bit of bulk to grab onto would also be not good.

>>45404961
so which is the toughest ThinkPad?

>>45405007
carbon fiber dog
also, i dont buy my computers to fucking throw them on the ground. X1 also is milspec

>>45405112
Carbon fiber flexes.

>>45404497
>mfw I posted that video as well almost a week ago
Feels good man.

>>45405144
yes, that will absorbe inpact.

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>>45405103
Any of them with a proper rollcage and a latch.

Although I don't think there is any ThinkPad with the level of toughness as Panasonic Toughbooks. Dell also has their "Rugged" Latitudes.

>>45404994
Internal battery making First Gen Carbon only last 3 to 4 hours of worktime. Second Gen is at least better with 6 hours. You can get any Thinkpad with that and even up to two times more.

>>45405103
W series. They are basically the Thinkpad equivalent of tanks.

>>45398111
x201, I believe that the x200's have shittier battery life because of the less efficient core2 duos in them.

>>45405195
It is reported that it has 8-6 h battery according to Linus.

>>45405269
Of course it'll get that idling.
Scroll down to the Battery Life section in these reviews:

First Gen:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Ultrabook.80288.0.html
Second Gen review:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Update-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Touch-20A7-002DGE-Ultrabook.113926.0.html

They get their laptops new if you're wondering.
If you want a Carbon, I suggest to stay away from First Gen, unless you are ready to be plugged most of the time.

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>>45404497
God I love this guy's enthusiasm.

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>>45404497
pretty funny

>>45405144
Carbon Fiber shatters.

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i'm thinking about getting a new T540p from newegg (4gb ram, 500gb hdd,1920x1080, windows 7 prof.)
i'll probably get a 1tb hdd, and a blu-ray drive for it as well.
the only problems i have with it is the non-centred keyboard/track pad, as it's not ten keyless,
and the fact that it has a 'clickpad' opposed to a trackpad and dedicated mouse buttons.
also, one of the many reasons i'm thinking about this model is the 1080p display.
i'll plan on watching many movies and anime on it so i want it to be visually pleasing.

>>45406167
They make the driveshaft for F1 cars out of carbon fiber.

>>45406251
the workstations have 1080p screens

>>45406167
Shatters at a lot higher stress and is very lightweight.

Though you have to be very careful about designing a frame out of carbon fiber as it is great in un-axial tension, but shit in any other direction. You fix this by making a weave of carbon fiber in multiple directions, but you still have to be very careful in parts like the edges where your stress could propagate in a lot of difference directions.

>>45406299
i'd prefer t-series opposed to w

>>45406508
why? the T5xx and W5xx are pretty much the same size. Just different internals

>>45406251
>buying a T540p for the 1080p display
>not for the 2880 x 1620 FHD++ "3k" display

doing it wrong

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>>45403651
>1366 x 768

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>tfw no x201 with the 1440x900 screen as a side lapto to try out GANOO+Linucks and OpenBSD on
I need a job.

>>45406658
i only have a finite amount of money

>>45407105
then why are you buying a brand new ThinkPad?

The whole point is to buy them secondhand for cheap because they are a very good value.

Literally no point in buying a new ThinkPad as opposed to anything else on the market.

>>45392812
New thinkpad T5x0p when?

what's the latest thinkpad that still can use a dock that has serial and parallel ports?

>>45407270
As soon as Intel releases mobile Broadwell...

is $400 fair for an X220, i5-2520M, 4GB ram, with docking station included? Claims to be in good condition

>>45408095
no lol

How much more battery does the X60s have versus the X60?

we need more thinkpad pr0n
>inb4 cumonthinkpad.jpg

>>45405103
600X or T30...


..


....


>X1C

>>45408102
how do you find a good deal when everyone keeps bidding them up way too high

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>>45392812
Just chilling on my x201, i think config is nearly done, save fixing mpd to not freak out firefox. Waiting for my 9-cell battery from 'murica.

>>45408195
buy it nows/Best Offer

seriously, you can get em for cheap.

>>45408095
h-how about $285? Fuck I need to calm down before I overpay for some shitty old laptop

>>45394184
I like the off-centre trackpad, I think that's the best thing they could have done.

>>45407430
looks like it's the T400. someone correct me if i'm wrong. need to get my hands on one.

>>45408327
>that default-ass i3bar

So here I am, on a T61 that has served me well, but ultimately the performance and battery life is lackluster.

I could get a $225 T420(s), description is a little unclear) with a 2nd gen i5, and put an SSD in it to take advantage of SATAIII.

It'd be almost the same machine, just with a couple of generations newer CPU and motherboard. Would this upgrade be worth it, or would the difference be too insignificant for the price?

>>45409138
The I-series was a pretty big jump from c2d, so probably.

>>45409138
Yes it would be worth it.

>>45409152
>>45409239
Sounds good. See anything I should be aware of here? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-1-CORE-i5-2520M-2-4GHz-2GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-DVD-RW-/251725321694
RAM is quite low, but that can be changed, same goes for the HDD

>>45408675
Yeah, that seems pretty fair.
>>45408147
pls halp

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>>45408154
Sure thing, anon!

>>45409410
Go for it, dude!

My right hinge is a bit off-center, what can I do to remedy this?

>>45400093
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/151493763839?

not bad... can't beat my deal... x200 for $45 :)

y/n?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313686&cm_re=x201-_-34-313-686-_-Product

>>45409677
no

>>45409748
you sure? i'd be upgrading from an atom eeepc.

Is there any point in trying to find a T420 with an Nvidia card?
I wont be playing games or anything and they seem really rare, but I don't want to get one with integrated graphics and end up with a useless machine.

>>45409748
>>45409677
ok ok how about for 200?

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>>45409529
Ordered!

>Arrives December 8-18th
>I leave North America the 18th
There's no way this could possibly end badly

>>45409882
is the battery release button on the x201 the only thing that secures the battery?

I bought a L440 before hitting /g/. Should I keep it or sell it and get a different one? Keep in mind I'm a Linux user and likes good screen quality.

Is there ANY way around a BIOS lock? is it just a battery removal thing?